How GOOD was Umbreon ACTUALLY? - History of Umbreon in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 2-6)

UMBREON! The Moon friendship evolution of Eevee. Umbreon is cool and edgy but how well did its monstrous defenses help it throughout the years in competitive Pokemon? Join False Swipe Gaming in this brief overview of Umbreon in competitive Pokemon.
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Notice I said POPULAR formats, meaning a format where there is a significant amount of people who compete in it for tournaments and so on and so forth. Now Popular does not mean official even though two of the formats I will be covering were official formats being Japan Nintendo Cup and VGC, but it is an indicator of what a good portion of competitive players thought was “optimal” at the time. Also sometimes the Pokemon Battle Historia doesn't provide enough information to talk about certain Pokemon so I add Smogon analysis to make sense of it. This is pretty rare though.
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[@MapCRimSoNCobRa117]

I feel like you missed a VERY important thing about Umbreon when it came around to gen 5. In gen 5 and onward, it fell in usage not really due to to other passers being more useful, it's because Mean Look + Baton Pass no longer worked! After you pass a mean look (or Spider Web, for that matter) they could switch, which pretty much crippled it's entire nitch and just became a boring old wannabee Blissey/Miltank Fusion that I guess could Foul Play. It's really a shame how much Umbreon was shafted in gen 5, it really did get nothing relative to it's Sunny counterpart.

[@FalseSwipeGaming]

MapCRimZ ah good catch. We will pin this. Our bad for missing that. Thanks!

[@xenonim]

MapCRimZ gen 7 is worst time for our little Eeveelution Umbreon. Umbreon easily can be replace by Alolan Muk and Alolan Persian with is way better than Umbreon. Alolan Muk only have 1 weakness plus a lot of resistance and 1 immunity. While Alolan Persian very fast and can support very efficiently not to mention the infamous z-Parting Shot and plenty supporting tool that can support out his team, plus have knock off which for how many generation Umbreon did not have access for this move but Alolan Persian, New Pokemon have this move in USUM by move tutor. I think gamefreak hate Umbreon so much.

[@MapCRimSoNCobRa117]

xenonim2013 A-Muk and A-Persian are nothing like umbreon. Infact, the literal only similarity is that they are dark type. If you want to list something that fills the same role as umbreon that also is dark type, Mandibuzz is probably the closest thing (tho it's not a cleric, which is pretty much Umbreons only useful role now). Otherwise it's literally a worse Vaporeon that learns Knock Off instead of scald. Umbreons 1 nitch was passing Mean Look and it lost that. It's like if Forretress lost rapid spin and you try to find a reason to use it over Ferrothorn.

[@DJarr216]

Forretress still has volt switch and toxic spikes over ferrothorn, so it's not the example you should put there. They are similar and obviously ferrothorn is the better option because it has a recovery option that keeps it around longer but you can't substitute one for the other and expect them to work the exact same way. A better example would be saying what reason you would have to use gastrodon over seismitoad if gastrodon lost recover.

[@MapCRimSoNCobRa117]

DJarr216 ok sure you can run volt switch for ease of prediction/to tank damage do the switch in comes in free sure but that's like giving B Pass to umbreon a tank umbreon solely to dry pass and that's a reason to run umbreon over blissey or some shit. And i could make a same silly comment about TSpikes but like ok yeah I get it they're not /exactly/ the same but it fills the same role w/o it's nitch of spinning and spiking. Either way my point was comparing umbreon to A-Persian isn't a good comparison.

[@Espik_23]

Umbreon getting 2nd at Worlds this year was really cool

[@TibiaOTarena]

The Foul play is amazing, so many times they think they can boost with either sword dance or dragon dance and they die in 1 hit by foul play.

[@asiasfuture8706]

:o

[@r.a.c.5754]

Work excellently for Mandibuzz too

[@MysticUmbreon]

I like this Pokemon a lot (:

[@youtubegonnagitit7184]

Lol of course you do

[@Noctali_Volkova]

I never would've guessed...

[@nyxeo]

Me too bro me too. They my frickin life (specifically shiny umbreon).

[@shivampoke]

omg had no clue XP! (i wanna call myself mysticaegislash now)

[@AliLiz91]

Same here, Mystic! He's been my favorite since I was 9. I'm 27 now. I love your videos btw (:

[@NeroAngelo616]

Congrats on Umbreon making the 2019 Masters Final! Spoons crossed in luck for it's final game.

[@dadorkdoge2689]

Spoons Crossed? Alakazam Reference there.

[@NeroAngelo616]

@@dadorkdoge2689 Si, Si, oui...

[@BlockO008]

I will not give up. How good was Pinsir ACTUALLY? Finish the holy trinity!

[@christopheracosta2060]

I'd say umbreon hit me with charm right in the heart, he's my fav

[@AzoiatheCobra]

oh umbreon. back in 2001, in gsc era, me and my friends played pokemon stadium 2 every afternoon. since all of us had a gen2 game, we decided to do "gyms" of our favorite types and payed around that. note that we were 10/11 year olds that barelly knew any english (PORTUGAL CARALHO) and we didnt knew about "competetive" sets or "banned" pokemon. so the owner of stadium 2 choose Fire Type because he loved Oh-oh and Charizard, and his team was Oh-oh, Moltres, Entei, Charizard, Typhlosion and Magby (this last one was filler from stadium 2 itslef). His cousin choose psychic and his team was... Mewtwo, Mew, Lugia, Celebi, Alakazam and Starmie (the last 2 were fillers)... the third, who was the only one who though strategy before strengh, choose normal and his team was Snorlax (damn this one gives me nightmares), Blissey, Miltank, Smeargle, Pidgeot and Raticate (Pidgeot was filler, raticate not so much... superfang was scary). I was the last one, and choose dark. My team was simple since there were only 6 dark types xD houndour included. And houdour was the filler one from stadium. And my team worked around umbreon. We didnt care much about strategy back then, hell we didnt even knew the point of set up moves, until i acknowlegde in game how fustrating it was to kill koga muk after 2 minimizes.... and though "the only way i have to beat those teams is by setting up". So, my team, that only lost to the normal team but were like 10-9 to the normal team was: 1st and the most important: umbreon with mean look, baton pass, double team and rest, item brightpowder. this was simple trap a favorable pokemon, either the filler or another that couldnt do much, start double teaming, pass the double team to another pokemon. the sole reason i used mean look over substitute was that if the trapped one was set up fooder for umbreon, it would be for sneasel. 2nd sneasel: my favorite xD it had dynamic punch for the normal types, CURSE AND AGILITY, and beat up, item kings rock. i loved this one. after 6 double teams from umbreon, nobody could touch you. after 2 curses and 2 agilties, you would outspeed and hurt everyone. it only lost to the normal team when dynamic punch became dynamic miss and the pp went out... beat up plus kings rock meant flinch for everyone... or so i though.... 3rd murkrow: again, thanks to double team, this was a nightmare. toxic, protect, fly and nightshade, item leftovers. stall stall stall. bad defenses are nothing if they cant hit you xD 4th tyranitar: earthquake, rock slide, crunch and hyper beam with quick claw... yes, now i know that it wasnt the best set in the world, but back then it was marvelous, and hyper beam was hyped by the anime. 5th houndoom: fire blast, crunch, sunny day, solarbeam with charcoal... yes, we were able to discover that sunny day reduced the solar beam turns and that it buffed fire moves and debuffed water moves, but not the effects of pursuit xD solar beam was only for starmie. 6th houndour. it was filler from stadium 2, i dont know its moves. i loved this team, they hated it. well, the normal gym leader loved it, because it was always a great battle between us. soon they learned NOT to start with the filler pokemon on my umbreon on 6v6 xD but it didnt matter much, because the usual was a 3v3, that was laughable. all thanks to umbreon.

[@alexsano1450]

Really wanting to see tentacruel featured

[@sealandrelevant1310]

Considering it suddenly featured in this video as someone who could get past Gen 2 Umbreon, I can see it happening. Much like when Skarmory and Scizor were mentioned a lot and then a lot of support came for covering them

[@jamieweir9843]

It really is, Cruel, that we haven't seen it yet!......... 🌚

[@patb8617]

Jamie Weir hahahahaha CRUEL hahahaha

[@jamieweir9843]

Pat B 😊😊 merry christmas my dude!

[@jeffreysweeney8532]

I'd like a Tentacruel episode too. Even though it's completely overshadowed by Toxapex, it is a Pokemon with a lot of utility. Rapid Spin, Knock Off, Toxic Spikes, Acid Spray, and Scald to name a few moves in its arsenal.

[@CosmicFlareYT]

Time for Ampharos, the lighthouse Pokemon!

[@charlesbrownjr5618]

Trust thar hair

[@blakeapher2178]

Ampharos all day

[@stevensowder3164]

The best mon ever

[@flaviogiuliano9889]

I'd say it's time for a remake of this video!

[@bryanbridges2987]

If I could have a pokemon in real life, I would want an Umbreon. I love how it looks, and I really love the concept of a mysterious, dark themed dog.

[@spiritblox1]

mabostiff says hi

[@BrandonPlaysStuff]

How good was Pinsir ACTUALLY?

[@Bacchus325]

I absolutely love this series it's so consistent in it's high quality and thoroughness. The only thing I could reccomend would be playing the Pokemon's cry whenever you feel appropriate.

[@Goliath1337]

Also people actually discussing the Pokemon in the comments, instead of just 'how good was actually' comments.

[@ShinyTillDawn]

The questions in the comments section is one of the main gimmicks of False Swipe Gaming's channel.

[@Kassiddy]

And now my boy climbed all the way up to be the runner up of VGC 2019

[@123451234alex]

colosseum made me love these two Eeveelutions. theyre so badass

[@BasementSkeleton97]

How good was Ampharos Actually?

[@mariagiordano1805]

1997Mr Game and Watch ampharos is my favorite Pokemon

[@segampharos2086]

Elite Four Christian mine too

[@Pyukuchi]

same

[@ejcbubba27]

How good was Feraligatr ACTUALLY? I've been wanting this.

[@raphaelkhoury218]

EricFeraligatr27 // SSLYT yeah!😍😍😍😍😉

[@icyferaligatr1112]

EricFeraligatr27 // SSLYT me too Feraligatr is my fav starter.

[@Ampharosite]

Feraligatr was decent and then became better when it got Sheer Force

[@Idealismsu]

name checks out, haha

[@ejcbubba27]

you just got pranked gg True. Feraligatr is my favorite Pokemon thats why its my Pfp and in my name.

[@goldenhydreigon4727]

Umbreon: Heh, I can't be outclassed by othee Dark Types in UU *Ghetsis Theme starts* *_HYDREIGON HAS ENTERED THE SERVER "UNDERUSED BUT STILL GOOD"_*

[@ArkaSaurusRex218]

I mean, that's not saying it's bad. Hydreigon is one of the most OP non-legendary pokemon, right behind Garchomp and Mega-Salamence. It;s impressive that really any dark-types can come out of it's shadow.

[@catherinestickels2591]

Ah, Umbreon. My favorite pokemon ❤ I've got a shiny Umbreon running toxic, heal bell, foul play, and moonlight, and it's just so much fun to use. I'm considering trying a wish, protect, curse, payback set in Ultra Moon now. I just relish the chance to use Umbreon

[@nerddwarf]

How good was Vaporeon?

[@The_Mister_E]

Nerd Dwarf Like Suicune but with anchors tied to its legs.

[@maxryder6958]

TheIncredibleMasterE 😂😂😂😂

[@ShinyTillDawn]

I get the reference (hopefully).

[@nerddwarf]

@@josephsquires5883 Vapoureon Video exists

[@LevelsOTT]

How GOOD was Ampharos ACTUALLY?

[@jesuschrist7010]

Ross Freeman bad

[@Dread_Maximus]

Alright in gen 2. Good in gen 3. shafted by the physical/special split. That's basically it.

[@thatguyGuswho]

You cant ignore that lovely mega mane

[@jerry3115]

Yes

[@FantasyAngel-zj7bw]

Wooo! Ampharos!

[@Chuggaaconroysson]

Gotta say, this might be your best *looking* video. Super smooth and high definition. I'd like to see Pidgeot.

[@midtown3221]

Watching your videos makes me wanna play my Emerald and Crystal version all over again now that I'm older. Your videos also make me feel so nostalgic :)

[@terrencej18]

Finally Umbreon. Thanks for this video.

[@jeroenb699]

How good was everyone's favourite telekinetic egg coconut tree thing (Exeggutor) actually? I have been asking this for weeks...

[@lambdapegasus9535]

Jeroen B decent in Gen 1 but later gens... yeah 125 sp.attack is good but having 7 awful weaknesses is not very good at all, 55 base speed is awful as well, unless u have chlorophyll but that is if you survive the first hit, it can be either good or bad in sun teams in Gen 5, but powerful fire types like Infernape and Heatran can easily burn Exeggutor to crisp, it can also have loads of trouble with Weavile, Mamoswine, Cloyster, Ninetales, Heracross (scarf) Chandelure (scarf) Scolepede, Excavalier, Darmanitan, ect. The list goes on, and don't even think about gen 6, with so many powerful megas running around like Mega Charizard X and Y, Mega Pinsir and Heracross, Mega Houndoom, etc. I'm pretty sure that Exeggutor is on RU, sorry pal :(

[@ShinyTillDawn]

It probably won't be covered until the USUM metagame is completely developed. I say this because s/he has an alolan form that has a typing in which the cold is hated.

[@Gojira_uz]

Best grass type for the first couple of gens.

[@justusoconnor3243]

If exeggutor is ur favorite it doesn't mean that is everyone's favorite just saying

[@vtmagno23]

Good in Gen 1 and 2 and bad in later gens

[@NightmareFueler]

I'd love to see you do "How good was Vaporeon actually?"! It's a superior cleric to Umbreon in almost every way. Sure, its base defenses aren't as high as Umbreon's at 60/95 for physical and special respectively, but base 130 HP lets it pass beefy Wishes. It's also got a much better defensive typing, Scald to spread burns in order to make up for its below average physical Defense, self-sustainability in Water Absorb that also predicts opposing Water moves, and a nice base 110 Special Attack to keep it from being too passive. Seriously, Vaporeon is freaking great.

[@ShinyTillDawn]

I wonder why it is (currently) NU in Gen 7.

[@chrishanson5846]

Super Duel707 kek

[@theonlyshinyumbreon]

Actually, run a curse set on umbreon, and it can sweep at least half of someone's team, leaving the rest of their team doomed...

[@melaniewilson1742]

Vaporeon with Rain Dance in Doubles alongside Jolteon with Thunder. Just godly. If you're playing Gen 6 or 7, you also have a Hidden Ability Sylveon in the back with Hyper Voice.

[@-Puppet-]

Ya know, Vaporeons pretty great at other things as well 😏 * Inhales * Did you know in terms of male human...

[@swilson5320]

This is my favorite Pokémon for the art and back story. Thanks!

[@KatieMya_]

How GOOD was jolteon ACTUALLY?

[@morrissieh6371]

Please do Jolteon

[@spaceonisorceress4406]

A vote for Jolteon is a vote for positive thinking. See what I did there? ;)

[@invaderzim1842]

How good was Dugtrio actually ? I will never give up

[@Small_Hat_Crew]

Turki Alamri I'm with you on this one

[@Intothevoid-NIB]

Dugtrio was bullshit until Arena Trap was banned. All that really needs to be said

[@MorganKing95]

Wow, I must commend you for making this even when it's Christmas. Props to you!

[@PkmnTrainerEmerald]

I can't wait till you make that video you've said about the gen 7 meta and now you must talk about how amazing umbreon did this weekend in worlds 2019!

[@ToWishWars]

How good was Ampharos ACTUALLY? Come on, we need this one!

[@gustavorodriguez8702]

Pinsir or the Gen 1 Eeveelutions!

[@checkomated1161]

damn i love this videos so much. they are so crazy well done!

[@ScrombIo]

i enjoy the emerald footage '-'

[@mohb8316]

same

[@Gojira_uz]

Sick pfp lmfao

[@codiinguyen9908]

I feel ashamed for knowing what your profile picture is...

[@ScrombIo]

@@codiinguyen9908 me too buddy, me too

[@anon3631]

based profile picture

[@jack.calder]

How GOOD were the Johto and Hoenn starters ACTUALLY?

[@applebeemcfirdays9977]

Awesome J johto was shit hoenn starters were great

[@jack.calder]

AppleBee Mcfirdays lol true

[@applebeemcfirdays9977]

Awesome J shame too

[@marcelomarcelo514]

there's only info to cover for feraligatr swampert and blaziken, the other 3 are garbage, sadly

[@nirtheart]

How GOOD was *FLAREON* Actually?

[@steventravale919]

NirthPanter *how bad

[@suezuccati304]

Flareon sucks. Case closed.

[@Anervaria]

awful

[@nebnebby8587]

it's pretty bad

[@marcelomarcelo514]

How terrible was flareon actually?*

[@constanzachantaldonascimen6029]

Merry Xmas to your team, thank you for your pokemon videos!!! :d

[@gwgoulinos]

The betrayal! hahaha your videos are so much fun. Subscribed, keep it up

[@d.t7997]

Togetic and Togekiss?

[@jeremywilson5094]

Eptastella yessss

[@Ldavis_]

My favorite pokemon, yes!!

[@eduardocarreno4525]

How good was Pinsir?

[@DrWiley-fm3ik]

Eduardo Carreno even in gen 1 he sucked, but his mega is actually pretty decent

[@zachrose82]

Eduardo Carreno Pretty bad until it got a mega.

[@buttstink5763]

Same as Heracross just watch that ;)

[@tentativaX]

Butt Stink What? I'm pretty sure that's way innaccurate! Heracross was so much better than Pinsir when the beetle came out, got even better in some later gens...heck, I don't even think Pinsir has ever been in the same tier as Heracross before Gen 6! I think Pinsir is much more similar to Kangaskhan than to Heracross...

[@PaintedHoundie]

Butt Stink nope. no megahorn, has never been given a decent bug stab, has a bunch of fighting moves with no stab, for the longest heracross has been an upgraded pinsir. a bug type that can actually utilize a harder hitting moveset. it wasn't until mega evolution that they distanced themselves from each other, and pinsir actually became good enough to be a sweeper.

[@deandregreene2587]

Stat wise: (If Umbreon was granted a Mega Evolution) Typing would be Dark/Ghost HP: 95 >>> 95 (0) Attack: 65 >>> 65 (0) Defense: 110 >>> 170 (+60) Special Attack: 60 >>> 60 (0) Special Defense: 135 >>> 175 (+40) Speed: 65 >>> 65 (0) Potential Abilities: Magic Guard, Magic Bounce, Oblivious, Regenerator, Shadow Tag, **Phaze Through** Phaze Through: The pokémon will be able to bypass any barrier, such as Protect, Spiky Shield, King's Shield, Substitute, etc. with any attack.

[@Druid-T]

Umbreon's problem is that it lacks the power to pressure, so wouldn't it be better to boost those? You give it an offensive ability, yet not the power to use it?

[@parulaneja2089]

Unaware would be better

[@Conches285]

i started competitive play in Gen 4 and Umbreon was one of the first mons i started using in singles. I had Calm nature with Curse, Payback, Confuse Ray, and Moonlight; full investment in Sp.Def and HP. Thing was a monster half of the time. i used it on my OU team as a bulky sweeper and it worked so well, only really being stopped by opposing Cursed t-Tar or other taunt users.

[@MrTheFlame69]

How good was Salamence! It probably won't be done yet since it's not a Gen 1 or 2 Pokemon, but it'd be cool

[@MrTheFlame69]

He only did so because their pre-evolutions were part of Gen1 or 2.

[@ethanbailey5773]

How good was Feralgatr actually? I will never give up.

[@bdt2002gaming]

creepy creeper Feraligatr is my all time favorite Pokémon by a huge margin. I second this.

[@snivymaster1528]

creepy creeper yes do it

[@Kalicer]

Temper your expectations, the gator is only okay.

[@KingLucarioxx]

Umbreon been a badass since he helped blow up a whole hideout back in Pokémon Colosseum, watch right here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYCcdIhtm96ajM0

[@irradiated6126]

0:16 them jumping into the bike matches the music

[@pure7438]

How Good was Jolteon Actually?

[@hollowlunerfang]

Jolteon! Vaporeon! Also Happy Holidays!!

[@AliLiz91]

Love Umbreon. He's been my favorite Pokémon since I first played Silver when I was 9. I'm 27 now

[@BobbyOGLOC]

Idc who gets credit for your videos Im just extremely happy you are doing the Eeveelutions! Ive been posting on every single vid and Im happy I got something for christmas lmao

[@RichieGonzo]

I will never stop asking How GOOD were Gligar/Gliscor ACTUALLY?

[@skkms910]

Like Weavile? lmao!

[@PaintedHoundie]

Michael Smith uhhhhhhh weavile is the shit.

[@zarrtik]

I WANT THEM NEXT AS WELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@lowkeyretarded9244]

Yeah

[@azaleaeternal8553]

How good was Jolteon actually (Please continue with the Eeveelutions)

[@NougatFromOrbit]

I always ran a set of Curse Payback Healbell and Moonlight, it made for a great setup sweeper thanks to its bulk letting it easily take hits from most attacks even not set up as long as it wasn't super effective, once it got a few curse boosts off its attack power became good enough with the 100 BP Payback that it could beat most things, barring whirlwind/roar, but I didn't find that very common tbh. I used it in OU quite a bit. Nobody expected the sweeper Umbreon since it's normally a cleric or baton passer.

[@youto419]

hi i love your videos and they are so informative because i love playing pokemon stadium 1 and 2 so it helps me with making teams anyway i know it is a gen 5 pokemon so the video might be a little short but could you please do Zoroark he is one of my favorite pokemon thanks and keep up the amazing videos

[@mariagiordano1805]

PLZ do ampharos

[@Burro..]

Outclassed in every gen but 6.

[@Calmeg658]

ShinyFalchion don't be men

[@BasementSkeleton97]

You cannot ignore that glorious mane

[@darkwolf9217]

No togekiss

[@vengefulfork7169]

Ampharos kinda sucks ass Rip it's in PU

[@ErichMaster_]

Do Houndoom Please!

[@nintendonian7776]

*YES*

[@TofuIsSleepy]

I think it would have been cool to mention the combo of curse and payback. I know other Pokémon do it better, but it catches a lot of people off guard.

[@adamtheriault6743]

one thing I should point out is inner focus works perfectly with curse it keeps a slow pokemon from repeatedly being flinched while letting it setup curses couple that with payback, and you have a defensive pokemon that takes hits and throws hard hitting attacks back toss on toxic for draining and rest for healing, and umbreon becomes an even more monstruous wall

[@MultiShane4]

Actually I think it would be cool for you to do Emerald footage for Gen 3 more often, I like it better than the Darkness footage

[@linkisntpink5897]

I agree.

[@gamefreak2050]

HOW GOOD WAS JOLTEON ACTUALLY

[@neehime6]

I love the way you say GG in your videos. Say it more often in your next videos and I'll recommend your videos to my friends.. Merry christmans!!

[@bengoodwin2141]

I noticed that the best(?) dark type move umbreon has in gen 3 is feint attack. So difficult to take advantage of it’s typing, though I guess feint attack, hyper beam, and moonlight combined is decent. I’m only talking about the main series games, not competitively though.

[@bg08395]

How good was pinsir actually?

[@sealandrelevant1310]

I believe it's time to break the Gen 3 barrier, and we haven't covered a Grass type in a long time, either: How GOOD was Breloom ACTUALLY? Edit: I found there's some support for Breloom already, and I'm honestly very curious about it in certain aspects. Sorry Sceptile.

[@cyberthegreat4033]

No....I want Sceptile....

[@shigerufan1]

Tropius would be nice to see too

[@leonardofarias8843]

No starters?

[@metalhamer1000]

There's no Gen 3 barrier since Porygon Z was covered

[@Pez7373737]

Yes, support the Breloominati and break the gen 3 barrier つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

[@cjer6040]

Y'know, this channel really helps me out a lot. Like I train Pokemon competitively in Gen VI and I've recently made it my goal to train at least one Pokemon from each evolutionary line (and also Pokemon that don't evolve at all) ((but not legendaries because they're cheap af in my opinion (and so are megas (Like a REAL trainer doesn't even need to rely on those things to win lol))))

[@Used__Napkin]

I played around with a singles sun team during X and Y and I ran an umbreon a sort of last resort. After everything else was taken out I’d be left with umbreon who had Sunny Day, Toxic, Moonlight, and Payback with Synchronize as the ability. So whatever survived Mega Charizard Y would get cleaned up eventually. If anything didn’t get Stun Spored by Whimsicott and tried to inflict anything on Umbreon would get it too, and if not I’d just use toxic. At times it felt kinda cheap, but because it was my first attempt at a competitive team I had a lot of fun.

[@SSJSonikku]

How good was Jolteon ACTUALLY!?

[@foxeye245]

Jolteon, vaporeon, flareon.

[@Mst3kfanatic1]

Awesome but shit in Gen 1, Awesome, Shit in every gen

[@GrouchyRaccoon]

I used to troll my friends using an Umbreon with Toxic, Confuse Ray, Double Team and Moonlight. It was so unbelievably infuriating I never dared use it seriously.

[@dachozunjuan7684]

shouldve

[@pocaitul78nr1]

" I will be using Emerald Footage instead of XD Gale of Darkness Footage" Me: *FOOTAGE IS FOOTAGE* !

[@dadorkdoge2689]

Nice Kakyoin PFP you got there. Anyway,We need EMERALD'S FOOTAGE!

[@twb2837]

How good was Jolteon, Actually?

[@harmless_xd4107]

History of Murkrow and Honchcrow

[@EiraMayCry]

Wizard Bird dude murkrow does better than honchkrow

[@jeremywilson5094]

Crazy Bubble03 well it does now because it has prankster and eviolite but it didn’t always have those.

[@DoctorMinjinx]

Yes!

[@thehumanstunlock7588]

when you said "amalgamation" i had to think about what that word meant for a sec before remembering what it meant,well done, you got my brain working, you get a cookie

[@Boot2Asses]

I hope you' re gonna cover all the Eeveelotions now, maybe in 2-3 videos if there isn' t much to say about some of those :)

[@GentleBaller]

i prefer the emerald footage to the XD footage

[@NotTheWheel]

But but... Jolteon ;n; EDIT>> Merry Christmas btw

[@thatguyGuswho]

Merry christmas back at ya :3

[@lucasnetz6116]

I'm playing Gold right now so i really waited to see this!

[@randomname5686]

How GOOD was Jolteon actually?

[@corenlavolpe6143]

Suggestions: Nidoqueen, Pinsir, Clefable. Let's make it happen.

[@NICACIOgallardo]

Coren la Volpe nidoqueen is best mon

[@brimstone0999]

How good was Vaporeon Jolteon or Flareon

[@luisaugustomoreiramartinez1314]

I'd like to see either Jolteon or Vaporeon next!

[@Valincio]

How GOOD was Butterfree actually? I WILL NEVER SURRENDER!

[@colebaxter8597]

Beedrill is more likely lol

[@jaydenlin8385]

Butterfree was trash

[@wildcamlmusic]

Hell yeah, a Butterfree supporter!

[@teslatica7337]

Give Up...

[@sandramack5858]

you will get it maybe, in patreon

[@minecraftlink0605]

How good is JOLTEON actually?

[@SuperSpikewolf]

And then he got to finals in The 2019 world

[@harrisonk2635]

Congrats Umbreon you made it to worlds

[@dunsparce916]

How good was Dunsparce ACTUALLY?

[@deathydeat2959]

Dunsparce no magikarp

[@nukesoldier9955]

Dunsparce coil glare headbutt roost serene grace OP

[@dunsparce916]

And some dope sunglasses.

[@papasins5623]

Dunsparce nice idea

[@lambdapegasus9535]

Nukesoldier99 what about against Steel or Ghost types?

[@lowkeyretarded9244]

How GOOD was GLIGAR/GLISCOR actually?

[@lowkeyretarded9244]

Were

[@Mst3kfanatic1]

Gligar is shit, but Gliscor is ma boi

[@SpecterReaper]

Khi Sen YEEEEEEEAAAAAAH! Gligar is shit, Gliscor is good ~Simplified

[@thecoma2394]

Gligar is actually okay. It's RU, and Gliscor is UU. They're used differently though because of their abilities.

[@autobotstarscream765]

Imho, Inner Focus is a pretty good Ability for a slow wall, as it can't be Flinch-trolled to paste and opposing Fake Outs become free shots to Mean Look/Taunt/Wish/set up/etc.

[@peterpham240]

how good was jolteon ACTUALLY

[@nerddwarf]

How good was Jolteon?

[@beunjoris]

FSG: I feel like you should cover a gen 5/6 Pokémon sometime JUST to emphasize on how ridiculous those gen 3/4 onward suggestions are.... There's still so many interesting gen 1 (and 2) mons to cover.

[@tutyss2191]

I want a remake of this video especially talking about 2019 vgc

[@martinxx173]

Alright now let’s keep her going with jolteon

[@fr4sek]

Let's start the Gen 3 ones: How GOOD was Breloom ACTUALLY?

[@sussyin4k]

ololo Frachu I’ve been asking for breloom for 4 months

[@sealandrelevant1310]

Yes! It's been ages since we've covered a Grass type!

[@PaintedHoundie]

we gotta finish the kanto/johto first

[@PittsburghSonido]

ololo Frachu I posted the same comments

[@mn73211]

I'm down for Breloom

[@andreasgustafsson5185]

In gen 5 I remember useing a Curse, Moonlight, Healbell/Confuse-ray/Toxic, Payback max HP & max sp Def Umbreon set. If your opponent had no answer or preparation when 2 curses where off, then nothing could stop it from tanking/stalling/sweeping everything.

[@Statefarm5]

Still my favorite pokemon. I use him with taunt, throat chop, iron tail, and z move quick attack. Catches alot of people off guard.

[@Leo-wq8sv]

Now, do JOLTEON

[@victorbeguito781]

Movepool consists of Thunderbolt, Hidden Power and Volt Switch. There, here is the Jolteon analysis. Never use it when you can use Tapu Koko, Mega Manectric or Raikou and you should be good.

[@RJTheHero8]

How GOOD was *_Unown_* ACTUALLY?

[@szkonk]

He did it already.

[@cinhuynh7102]

Plz dont

[@ch-bf6dw]

shite

[@thisWinglessAngel]

Stop it. actually.. it sounds like a good april fools joke.

[@JetPuff96]

Gonna need a separate vid for each letter