How I Handle Playtesting

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Jonas Tyroller

Jonas Tyroller

Күн бұрын

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@plzletmebefrank
@plzletmebefrank 4 жыл бұрын
Me: "Will You Snail?" Jonas: "Vill You Znail?" Me: "Yez, yez I vill."
@oliversallay8899
@oliversallay8899 5 жыл бұрын
hey, this video was zuper good and zuper informative, thanks.
@JonasTyroller
@JonasTyroller 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed this zuper eazy zimple imformation video. :)
@metgaming9545
@metgaming9545 4 жыл бұрын
S = Z
@darkwingy92
@darkwingy92 4 жыл бұрын
@@metgaming9545 Wow thank you so much I could not have guessed that myself!!!!!
@prithviproduction4412
@prithviproduction4412 4 жыл бұрын
@@darkwingy92 *zo *myzelf
@unitysparticlesystem
@unitysparticlesystem 3 жыл бұрын
Unity'z particle zyztem
@mason3872
@mason3872 5 жыл бұрын
My strategy for play testing is getting my mom to play considering since she only plays match 3’s she isn’t going to complain about how it’s too hard or too boring or not like this game. A mom is the perfect play tester.
@stellanovaluna
@stellanovaluna 3 жыл бұрын
She won’t give you constructive criticism tho, and you won’t know if you did something wrong
@chrono9503
@chrono9503 Жыл бұрын
@@stellanovaluna my main playtester as a beginner is my sister, and you know how no matter what age you are your sibling won't resist the urge to critizise you lol
@tcymtz
@tcymtz 5 жыл бұрын
I've been working on my solo video game full time for about 6 months. As someone who is about to start devlogging and gathering an audience, I found this video extremely helpful. thank you!
@pravatpandey1937
@pravatpandey1937 5 жыл бұрын
Dont you dare stop saying z instead of s. I love it wayy too much❤️
@Khud0
@Khud0 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video, it's zuper insightful! Every time I open your Discord chat, I wonder how the hell do you manage to read all of that feedback and still have enough time to make changes in the game and record videos.
@JonasTyroller
@JonasTyroller 5 жыл бұрын
I don't really have enough time to do all of that... Progress on the game is moving extremely slowly as a result. :D
@ilovecairns5181
@ilovecairns5181 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making thiz video, it’z zuper inzightful! Every time I open you Dizcord chat, I wonder how the hell you manage to read all of that feedback and ztill have enough time to make changez in the game and record videoz.
@lzk4891
@lzk4891 2 жыл бұрын
zuper!
@itsmefisher2012
@itsmefisher2012 5 жыл бұрын
The Ahahahaha of Squid has officially became a meme
@Indiereview
@Indiereview 5 жыл бұрын
I like it
@YellowAnimations
@YellowAnimations 4 жыл бұрын
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
@mashafalkov
@mashafalkov 5 жыл бұрын
This was such useful information, presented clearly and concisely. Thank you so much for making these awesome videos, as a beginner game dev I find them invaluable!
@Indiereview
@Indiereview 5 жыл бұрын
The feedback form is an awesome idea!
@hbloops
@hbloops 5 жыл бұрын
This video is your most usefull yett i think, im overdosing on epic tips atm!
@JonasTyroller
@JonasTyroller 5 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that. :D
@maurosanchez2524
@maurosanchez2524 5 жыл бұрын
Okay that was super informative. I don't even knew that you can take all this data about your game testers. Maybe someday you can do an explanation video about how game analytics woks and how to put it in your game. I will join the discord. I can help translating to spanish and maybe japanese. Cheers! I will try the demo now :)
@JonasTyroller
@JonasTyroller 5 жыл бұрын
Oh. Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks a lot. :)
@majesticpanda445
@majesticpanda445 5 жыл бұрын
Jonas can you stop being so friggen cute ;))
@JonasTyroller
@JonasTyroller 5 жыл бұрын
Impossible.
@wolfboi7104
@wolfboi7104 4 жыл бұрын
@Gerson Ferreira imposibru
@JimJakubJames
@JimJakubJames 2 жыл бұрын
10:00 heeey, that's amazing way of sorting levels by actual difficulty!
@SnutiHQ
@SnutiHQ 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome seeing your approach to play testing, very valuable and will try this approach in the future! 👍
@toesnub9676
@toesnub9676 5 жыл бұрын
Will you snail looks incredible great job
@ManOfDuck
@ManOfDuck 4 жыл бұрын
This was super informative. Game Design is a big interest of mine and seeing your process through making a game makes it seem much more achievable.
@yourdiscordfriend9902
@yourdiscordfriend9902 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like will you snail is my dream game (keep on working this is the best game ive ever seen)
@thenospeak9244
@thenospeak9244 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Jonas. Interesting to know how you manage all this stuff (=)]
@JoSke633
@JoSke633 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Jonas, thanks for making this one ! Got some really cool tips. Our game is approaching its first vertical slice, I'm definitely going to implement some of this stuff. :) Btw, I didn't see a dedicated channel for translations, but would like to help with Serbian, if you're up for it ! :D
@mingyenwu9621
@mingyenwu9621 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for these great tips! It's generous of you to share your experience and methods on how to collect player feedback. =)
@YaenGamedev
@YaenGamedev 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, looking at those feedback tables, it looks like most of the stuff in there is actually mine o.o... From what I've seen in this video I'd say it's like 80% of it... This may be a problem since of course I'm only one person, having my personal opinions, not necessarily a trend as you say. Just a heads-up.
@JonasTyroller
@JonasTyroller 5 жыл бұрын
That's fine. I'm aware. Just following the 80 / 20 rule. :D Also most people bulk submit a lot of feedback at once. :)
@YaenGamedev
@YaenGamedev 5 жыл бұрын
@@JonasTyroller alright then ^^
@leonardofraga5130
@leonardofraga5130 5 жыл бұрын
Hello Jonas \o/ Thanks for the video, really appreciated this crucial part of being a game dev. I'm actually really afraid of doing this, even thinking about doing this feel scary... Not only for the feedback, but also about the work that is needed, work and people lol
@maruaz8922
@maruaz8922 3 жыл бұрын
10:51 level S_05 is literally called "pain" seems like a decent game to me.
@zerogaminghq5430
@zerogaminghq5430 5 жыл бұрын
Underrated Channel in 2020 I hope we get you to 100k subscribers! P.s. Zuper Zuper nice video 😁
@SparkeyAvalon
@SparkeyAvalon 2 жыл бұрын
3:40 Yup... You may have started from a great original idea about AI traps, but you just did too great of a job with the voice lines. And now that's pretty much the identity of the game.
@kunai9809
@kunai9809 4 жыл бұрын
further info on player feedback: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hmGYgIGcgbSko7s one interesting thing i took from that video that jonas didn't mention: dont take feedback as *imrovement suggestions*, but as *problem reports*. You as the developer should decide how to deal with the problem, most of the timer the players dont really know how to fix things, they're just good at identifying flaws.
@rstorm7568
@rstorm7568 5 жыл бұрын
This video iz Zuper instructive ! i rly hope your game succed you deserve at least that.
@pandaqi1720
@pandaqi1720 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Jonas, just a quick question: how do you make such snappy videos? I've been creating some devlogs lately, but they feel very slow and boring when I compare them to your videos. Do you edit out a lot of mistakes/silences? Or are you just the best speaker that ever existed (at least on video)? :p
@JonasTyroller
@JonasTyroller 5 жыл бұрын
I'm actually not a good speaker at all. Yes, your speaking skills get better over time if you keep making videos over 2 years but it mostly comes down to editing. Just brutally edit out all of the doubled or boring information and then zoom into the timeline and delete every single frame that doesn't serve a purpose.
@jacobshirley3457
@jacobshirley3457 4 жыл бұрын
You also have to realize Jonas' videos have the style of being "overly snappy". That's not necessarily a bad thing, but that's what makes him stand out. Another thing is to try to remove every sentence (one-by-one), and see if the viewers actually needed it. See if you can eliminate individual words, without sacrificing meaning or tone. Of course, if you do delete stuff, make sure each sentence flows naturally into the next.
@BWDev
@BWDev 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video! Included some of your level testing ideas in my dissertation - gonna be super helpful testing my uni project 😄
@TastyPancakes
@TastyPancakes 4 жыл бұрын
I love your game trailer its so fun to watch :D
@arjunsworld007
@arjunsworld007 5 жыл бұрын
nice vid man! Informative too!!
@jester7810
@jester7810 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! This video was very useful...It helps you to understand playtesting completely..helped me a lot in making my story game...
@jester7810
@jester7810 5 жыл бұрын
I also loved the thumbnail...😄
@mohammednihad6755
@mohammednihad6755 5 жыл бұрын
Jonas preparing to his next job as a psychologist :) Too smart! thanks a lot Jonas :)
@BoundfoxStudios
@BoundfoxStudios 5 жыл бұрын
This video is zuper useful again. 🦊
@Lugmillord
@Lugmillord 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, that's a great workflow you have there. At this point in time, I need to rely mostly on tip 24... But at least some friends are playing it. That's already so useful, because they just instantly expose so many bugs xD One question, though, and you may not really have an answer for this one, but how would you handle playtesting for a story-driven game where you don't want spoilers to get public before the game is out? In other words, how would you make sure that your playtesters don't spread details outside of the test environment?
@IonKattTMCE
@IonKattTMCE 4 жыл бұрын
Very exited for the game
@GDScriptDude
@GDScriptDude 5 жыл бұрын
OMG this is next level.
@santiagojuarez3832
@santiagojuarez3832 3 жыл бұрын
Already wishlisted 😁
@Mistium
@Mistium 4 жыл бұрын
This is amazing thanks for the tips!
@springbertstudios7005
@springbertstudios7005 3 жыл бұрын
I would rather be a playtester of your game because to be honest it sounds really nice and the trailers make me want to play it
@sosasees
@sosasees 4 жыл бұрын
The monitor in the thumbnail appears to have a very strange curved shape, which would be impractical because it'd distort the image if it actually existed, but the rest of the video is really good.
@Kfoo-dj4md
@Kfoo-dj4md 2 жыл бұрын
16:50 the translation incident 😔
@sanin8621
@sanin8621 5 жыл бұрын
Also let non gamers play your game and look how they play. Because game testers know wasd, arrows, space controls, some things are not logical for people that play videogames that often.
@-Teague-
@-Teague- 2 жыл бұрын
@Mr. Nobody. I'm late but this video was just supposed to be general play testing advice so I think this comment was just trying to add to that
@mpixel2058
@mpixel2058 5 жыл бұрын
Coincidentally I am looking for playtesters for my game right now.
@Indiereview
@Indiereview 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, email us in our about page and we might review it
@Marco_zlb
@Marco_zlb 5 жыл бұрын
I think you can change the linearity of your game by reusing levels but adding stuff to make them harder. - like a lot harder. That way you can practice to become good at the game but its not getting boring as the level changes. I mean just add parts to levels with flags and only include them if the flags are set.
@Rob-hm4jx
@Rob-hm4jx 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly this video is gunna be so useful if I ever manage to finish a game lol
@Rob-hm4jx
@Rob-hm4jx 5 жыл бұрын
SeriousName thx I will haha :)
@mohammednihad6755
@mohammednihad6755 5 жыл бұрын
Also, I can help with the translation :) - Arabic specifically -
@ibra.h
@ibra.h 5 жыл бұрын
Yo. I'm coming to Arabia.
@ibra.h
@ibra.h 5 жыл бұрын
Makkah and Madinah in specific. Though I'll land at jeddah
@younlok1081
@younlok1081 5 жыл бұрын
i can also lol if u want help mohammed
@fawazaljohani8447
@fawazaljohani8447 5 жыл бұрын
@@ibra.h مرحبا بالسعودية ابراهيم ❤✌
@DoomOfCave
@DoomOfCave 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video as always, dont rly know what else to say ":D"
@hm4266
@hm4266 4 жыл бұрын
2:28 Literally me, learning new language
@ziggyzoggin
@ziggyzoggin 4 жыл бұрын
nice
@maicondouglaszeferino7192
@maicondouglaszeferino7192 5 жыл бұрын
I can translate for Portuguese Brazil, i'll join the discord soon
@mrron6257
@mrron6257 4 жыл бұрын
hm do you smell it it's the smell of when the game is going to release game theory gonna thorize it for sure
@ilovecairns5181
@ilovecairns5181 4 жыл бұрын
wtf
@LivanderGamedev
@LivanderGamedev 4 жыл бұрын
Do u need to translate Will You Snail to Indonesian language? :D
@shonjones7231
@shonjones7231 5 жыл бұрын
Does your game have a intro? To establish the characters and motivations?
@aliforpeace
@aliforpeace 5 жыл бұрын
I really like ur honest ♥️ Golden Words
@konigaminggr
@konigaminggr 4 жыл бұрын
1:59 That is google sheets not form
@nkusters
@nkusters 5 жыл бұрын
Good video :)
@ajrfan6035
@ajrfan6035 2 жыл бұрын
And accessibility will be able to let more types of players play your game!
@MesaTheAalfa
@MesaTheAalfa 3 жыл бұрын
What is the most secure place to upload your play test version of your game :(
@GamingTranceSeer
@GamingTranceSeer Жыл бұрын
So many stuff I got on steam gets updated even after publishing. Guessing you wanted to avoid negative reviews for things that could be fixed before publishing as even if fixed in an update you can't remove the review?
@bearba9s
@bearba9s 5 жыл бұрын
beautiful. keep it up (y)
@FusionDeveloper
@FusionDeveloper 5 жыл бұрын
Bought it on Steam? it isn't for sale yet.
@BubuRuzu
@BubuRuzu 9 күн бұрын
Do you have them signing an NDA?
@pogrammer
@pogrammer 4 жыл бұрын
tip 22: so THATS why i hated the undyne fight, your just boom, green, no preparation, just your in the boss fight of greeness
@nooneliterallynoone8040
@nooneliterallynoone8040 5 жыл бұрын
thanks for your help br
@ConConMakesStuff
@ConConMakesStuff 5 жыл бұрын
Potential challenge: Will you snail? For Xbox
@Indiereview
@Indiereview 5 жыл бұрын
To play this game with a controller naturally would be awesome
@ConConMakesStuff
@ConConMakesStuff 5 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@user-hz4tc2pf3x
@user-hz4tc2pf3x 4 жыл бұрын
Switch, PS4 juicy stuff
@lorddorogoth
@lorddorogoth 4 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to become a playtester?
@themissingbracket
@themissingbracket 5 жыл бұрын
I can translate the game to arabic if you want, but if it includes voice acting I think I can't do it; because I suck at voice acting.
@ChrisTharpArt
@ChrisTharpArt 5 жыл бұрын
How long is will you 🐌?
@JonasTyroller
@JonasTyroller 5 жыл бұрын
About 4 hours. For some of my playtesters it took 10 hours, for others just 2 so it's hard to tell. :D
@ChrisTharpArt
@ChrisTharpArt 5 жыл бұрын
@@JonasTyroller Nice! That sounds like a pretty good length. Also love what you're doin. Keep it up.
@DeltaWing64
@DeltaWing64 3 жыл бұрын
lol FEEBACK 7:38
@Robertganca
@Robertganca 5 жыл бұрын
Why is the player character a snail? It seems like such an odd design choice.
@Indiereview
@Indiereview 5 жыл бұрын
I think it adds character to the game, why is Mario a plumber? "Donkey" Kong a gorilla?
@Tantandev
@Tantandev 5 жыл бұрын
For me, it drew my attention because it's not common to have a snail as a main character :p Makes me instantly recognize it
@--Arthur
@--Arthur 5 жыл бұрын
Will you GIRAFFE?
@Athelion123
@Athelion123 4 жыл бұрын
my guess its a play on the word Fail so instead of Will You Fail? its Will You Snail?
@plzletmebefrank
@plzletmebefrank 4 жыл бұрын
It's probably also cause... Uh... Ultimate underdog. And it's a game about speed. There's a lot of irony.
@NinjarioPicmin
@NinjarioPicmin 5 жыл бұрын
lol that 1 guy that wrote "with 34 hours played one of my most played games this year" ... okay so either you play a toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon of games and all of them not really long or you just don't play many games at all...
@alyix8391
@alyix8391 4 жыл бұрын
Wish I could play test
@notnanook
@notnanook 5 жыл бұрын
kann man irgendwie am playtesting teilnehmen?
@isaacmunns3597
@isaacmunns3597 5 жыл бұрын
Will will you snail come to switch
@b152349
@b152349 4 жыл бұрын
Will Will's will contain his copy of will you snail?
@Drakmour666
@Drakmour666 5 жыл бұрын
As I understand there are tons of text. :-) I could translate to Russian but I don't have much spare time.)
@bamfyu
@bamfyu 5 жыл бұрын
Let nongamers play your game and get feedback, it will help to be more for everyone
@user-hz4tc2pf3x
@user-hz4tc2pf3x 5 жыл бұрын
Why people? Keybinding is MOST important! Also if you want Hungarian transalation then just ask me or something.
@JonasTyroller
@JonasTyroller 5 жыл бұрын
But is keybinding still that important when there are only 3 buttons and both arrow keys as well as WASD work? Sure, Hungarian would be cool if you wanna do it. :D
@user-hz4tc2pf3x
@user-hz4tc2pf3x 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, didn't know that there's only thoose 3 buttons, also we could do the transaliton on discord? Add me : *the guy who made that shitty dubstep song for the last music jam*
@he2he
@he2he 4 жыл бұрын
@@JonasTyroller look at a French keyboard. Imagine pressing WASD there.
@christine_blake_404
@christine_blake_404 4 жыл бұрын
Please can I play test if it’s good I will thumbs up
@smth35
@smth35 4 жыл бұрын
7:40 Nobody: Jonas: Use *Feeback* for your marketing
@humm535
@humm535 5 жыл бұрын
Vielleicht würde ich mit Deutschen Übersetzungen helfen, aber ich fürchte ... da gibt es vermutlich schon _Leute_ für.
@masterofdisguise6874
@masterofdisguise6874 5 жыл бұрын
Wie lange ich gebraucht habe bis ich realisiert habe das du tasty blue games bist
@JonasTyroller
@JonasTyroller 5 жыл бұрын
Haha. :D
@kapcapkapcap6104
@kapcapkapcap6104 4 жыл бұрын
12:36
@tuatarian6591
@tuatarian6591 4 жыл бұрын
I think you should keep the data collector, it does help with post-launch patching. But also, I think if you released it publicly that would be super interesting to look at for us normal people
@homad9531
@homad9531 5 жыл бұрын
helloo
@lifeless9768
@lifeless9768 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Guys i followed a top down shooter tutorial from brackeys i tried it but then the screentoworldpoint function returned the camera transform Sorry for my English its my second language
@FuryRex09
@FuryRex09 4 жыл бұрын
The game is family friendly right? lol.
@ManOfDuck
@ManOfDuck 4 жыл бұрын
This was super informative. Game Design is a big interest of mine and seeing your process through making a game makes it seem much more achievable.
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