How I Heat My House With Waste Oil - Christmas Special

[@GRILL332]

I started watching your channel a long time ago when you ran waste oil experiments in a diesel heater. Your tenacity of tearing it down and rebuilding it testing waste oil sold me you are the real deal. Really appreciate your work. You do not give up easily! Thanks so much, for your work and keeping the swearing off camera (cause there must be swearing lol) Have a great Christmas and as long as you burn waste oil I will watch.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Thanks for the comment ! When I swear, it's usually because I'm disappointed in myself, or I'm tangled in a mess that I knew I should have cleaned up, haha. I really enjoy tinkering and experimenting. The diesel heaters and waste oil heater are a constant source of answering "I wonder what happens if".

[@lorddeath1023]

Keep it up really great videos. Look forward to seeing 👀 more 😊. Merry Christmas 🎅 your giving some great ideas.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Thanks !! Merry Christmas.

[@flack3]

You should install a water heater pressure and temperature blow off valve. They are basically free if you steal it on a water heater on the side of the road, 30$ CAD new at the hardware store. It could save you from a fatal accident if you ever forget a valve closed. Thanks for the videos!

[@loweredexpectations4927]

That's a good idea. That way, even if all of the safety systems fail, it will still vent in a safe way. If I do make a bypass loop, it likely won't be a 100% bypass, so that I don't have issues with the water freezing. That being said, I may switch to an antifreeze.

[@35rem80]

You ROCK brother! BTW Merry Christmas 🎄. We now heat our single wide trailer home in Northern Michigan with the Vevor diesel heater because of you. Do not worry, I set them up safely and have monitors that have never gone past zero. That said, today on Christmas we changed out the fan cone from a Speeding Pro blah blah blah that never ever ran. Perfect fix. Quiet as a baby napping. I just want you to know how much of a positive effect you have had on our lives. God bless you and yours and please keep the great videos coming! Peace on Earth and good will to all mankind and other true sentiments. Again, you Rock as a human bro!

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Thanks for the comment and Merry Christmas. Oh wow. I'm glad you were able to tinker and improve on it. I have to say that noise for me is not usually something that I consider much, as I generally test in my shop or outside, but it's good to hear from people with different uses and different ideas. Thanks for all the love. God bless you and yours. Take care!

[@35rem80]

@loweredexpectations4927 Bro, I wrapped my space between the ground and single wide floor in plastic and a wooden exterior. The exhaust keeps my floors warmer and with some heat tape on the pipes we get water all year long now. Again, bro, you positively effected our lives in a massive way. Love you bro! Keep up the good work. I, BTW, used the nautical fitting to seal both units for the exhaust and just reversed the fitting so yeah. Nothing at all gets back into our house.

[@35rem80]

Crap, I forgot to say; the tink tink tink of the fuel pump...well that just means that if I wake up at 3am or whatnot I know that my house is still being heated and I go back to sleep like a baby.

[@easymac79]

Howdy! Snow Mexican (Canadian).. It's been forever since I've tuned into your videos. After the cold season ended a couple years ago we've sort of skipped Winter. 70 degrees Freedom Units in January, my grass has not stopped growing in 3 years I am not kidding! Since I also make a living my making long grass short, I have had income in the Winter and less need to tinker with projects like waste oil to reduce energy costs - Also, there is a lot of gas industry here and gas prices have actually fallen in the past years, despite inflation. That was a very neat burner you had in the intro reel, looking forward to catching up on some of your shenanegans from the past year!

[@cowboy6591]

Merry's and Happies Joel. Thanx for the flick.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Thanks for the love!

[@5roundsrapid263]

This is brilliant. Most boilers are basically a whiskey still in reverse, but this looks like one, too… Merry Christmas!

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Haha, thanks. It needs some refinement, but is working well, all things considered. Merry Christmas.

[@5roundsrapid263]

@@loweredexpectations4927Looks don’t matter if it works! My grandpa had a still in the Depression.

[@wallacefrey6247]

Merry Christmas Joel. That new fan setup is a nice upgrade.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Thanks Wallace. Merry Christmas ! The fan is nice and doesn't draw much power. I have considered using it to push hot air directly into my duct work. However, altho the furnace fan draws a lot more power, I can connect it so that it is on a thermostat and not have it running all the time. I haven't 100% decided yet, but I did order a 18x20 exchanger that will fit pretty well in my furnace plenum.

[@wallacefrey6247]

@@loweredexpectations4927 What if you ran another heat ex-changer and fan in series to another part of the house to utilize some of the extra heat left over from the main one?? Another crazy option, would be to use multiple heat ex-changers,or a much bigger one with a more powerful fan and tie into the main duct of the heating system of the house. On a side note, it is nice to se you smiling again.

[@robertclark5752]

Merry Christmas stay warm and safe.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Thanks Robert. Merry Christmas.

[@markmetzger5430]

Joel, I do not believe you have anything to worry about with metal deterioration. I burned a 30 gallon barrel stove for 18 years in my living room with many red hot and glowing adventures. After all that abuse the barrel looked as good as the day I installed it. No detectable deterioration whatsoever. A steel drum is much thinner than the propane tanks you are using. Your mileage may vary I am just telling you what I experienced. Merry Christmas my Friend🎄

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Thanks for the comment and reassurance, Mark. I think one possible difference between my burner and others, is that it is a oxygen rich flame... You can tell because it is blue. I'm honestly not concerned about it, but I believe an oxygen rich flame, really hot metal, is much more of a concern for oxidation. Merry Christmas and thanks for the support.

[@parfproduction1345]

Merry Christmas ! I look forward to seeing your videos. Thank you for posting the freedom units .

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Merry Christmas to you as well. Thanks for the comment. It's quite a bit of work trying to get all that freedom jammed into my videos, so thanks... I appreciate it.

[@coachgeo]

Tinker on Joel (does that mean in real life your actually a Santa's Elf in a workshop? hmmm.. ) Merry Christmas to everyone in your home..... and have a Happy New Year.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Haha. "Santa's Elf in a workshop?" Most of the stuff I make ends up in the trash, instead of being sent to others. I'm an R&D elf. Thanks for the well wishes. Merry Christmas to you and yours, as well.

[@Burnafatty420]

Great video Joel. Its all trial and error. You'll eventually get it figured out and hopefully get a pattened number on the system! Merry Christmas to you and yours. Stay safe,stay warm my friend.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

I enjoy the challenge, and I like being warm. It's very satisfying. Merry Christmas to you, as well.

[@sidknowles3467]

Merry Christmas and have a great New Year from all in the UK

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Thanks Sid. Merry Christmas to you and yours. Bring on 2025 !

[@StratOvation]

Merry Christmas Joel! Thanks for the updates, Pretty awesome progress!

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Thanks, and Merry Christmas to you. I'm pleased about the progress and excited about more modifications / refinement.

[@werner.x]

1:32 Exactly, the bowl is empty. That's what he wants to tell you with that noise 😂

[@loweredexpectations4927]

HAHA... Merry Christmas Werner. Moose would lick a hole in that bowl if I didn't put it where he can't reach it.

[@werner.x]

@@loweredexpectations4927 He looks skinny. Maybe he's still hungry and tries to tell that. At least i'd read it that way. Anyway, Merry Christmas - and don't burn your house down.

[@PUBHEAD1]

Merry Christmas my friend. Looking forward to more of your antics in the New Year

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Hey ! Merry Christmas. Hoping to get the system dialed in and reliable.... more reliable. I'm having a hard time focusing on this project, because I have ideas on how to make several different designs.

[@PUBHEAD1]

You need a version that runs on turkey grease

[@benjaminnevins5211]

Merry Christmas everyone! Stay warm out there.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Very thoughtful to include everyone. Merry Christmas to you ! Take care.

[@Burnafatty420]

Merry Christmas to you as well. Thank you.

[@Alitotheg]

Thanks for the vids, have a great Christmas from Ireland

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Thanks for the commnet. Merry Christmas, from Canada!

[@Jacobskibros]

Merry Christmas!

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Hey BUDDY ! Merry Christmas! Hope you are well.

[@bikerboymc54]

Merry Christmas

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Merry Christmas to you. as well.

[@Korpen_1979]

Merry Christmas to you from Sweden

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Thanks! Merry Christmas to you!

[@effectpower]

God Jul Gubben!

[@Korpen_1979]

@@effectpowerhaha gubben 😆👍 God Jul & Gott nytt år 🎅

[@tjhouston4916]

Merry Christmas Joel!

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Hey there. Merry Christmas to you.

[@tjhouston4916]

@loweredexpectations4927 My project this winter is making charcoal pellets to get a consistent fuel for my charcoal gasifier. Last year I got my 1850 watt generator running on charcoal. Keep thinking warm thoughts.

[@billynomates920]

merry Christmas!

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Merry Christmas to you !

[@bikerboymc54]

I wonder if to used deep fryer oil would work as well as used motor oil

[@loweredexpectations4927]

I REALLY want to try it... I'll almost certainly find some to give it a go.

[@shawnrinkel8377]

Can have the return loop run through a coil in the oil to heat it quicker. As always love your channel bro.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Yeah... this would avoid condensation forming on the coil. Loop the water till it gets to 30-40C and then send it to the primary storage tank.

[@JasonGodin-g7s]

Good work man...

[@davidjohannessen2379]

Merry Christmas too you. Love your videos

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Thanks David ! Merry Christmas.

[@uncioclasprinlume]

Bypass is the word you loking for :). Verry nice setup : the pipe coming out of the serpentine must be much longer and made of metal, at least 4-5 meters. Merry Cristmas Joel! I have an idea for you (it's probably a bit crazy and maybe not feasible) from the diesel heater to use the exhaust of the burnt gases for a stirling engine. If you manage to produce electricity for free lighting

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Haha... I assume you are talking about not sending water to the heater coil when the heater is not burning? I haven't put much thought into the best way to do this, but yeah... Bypass, haha. Merry Christmas !

[@beast7018]

merry Christmas

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Merry Christmas to you, as well. Thanks.

[@markys9037]

superb mate. i wish i was single, i would have some mad shit happening in my house as well . brilliant

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Haha... Maybe that's part of the reason I ended up single. Perhaps you could start off on a really small scale and incorporate all of the safety systems BEFORE things go wrong, haha. Heat up a kiddy pool or something and then BAM ! Next thing you know, you're the trusted neighbourhood waste oil boiler guy. Cheers !

[@easymac79]

7:50 I'd look into addressing that issue. If you took some aluminum foil and crumple it around the water lines I think it would provide some level of insulation against fire. You might lose a bit of heat, but if it's getting too hot... Actually, maybe it would be better to have a larger coolant loop? Perhaps an insulated tank/reservoir. If you need to move heat faster, use larger or more pipes. If you want to store the heat, split it into an insulated tank - but that would require multiple loops, valves, controls, etc.

[@KingofallDiffs]

Merry Christmas ya'll! Garaaaaage!..

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Thanks yo. Merry Christmas to you as well.

[@Dan----]

Thank you for taking the time to share what you have figured out with us. I have some questions about what you are currently doing for freeze protection when you are not running the burner. Are you draining all the outdoor lines? Why do you advise against using RV antifreeze? Are you still using the 6 gallons of automotive antifreeze? This doesn't get you much protection with such a large volume of water. Thanks!

[@loweredexpectations4927]

I am now running a low concentration of antifreeze in water. I keep the pump running no stop and that way it won't freeze... Not very efficient for a few reasons. In the future I will be using propylene glycol to ensure it doesn't freeze. RV antifreeze boils at too low of a temperature, and also gels up when it gets cold. It won't freeze and damage your lines, but it will plug them quickly. You will not be able to unplug them. You can get propylene glycol in large pails for floor heating and such things. It is a bit pricey, but not compared to buying automotive antifreeze.

[@unionse7en]

especially on a copper pipe it is easier and in a few ways superior (no joint to leak and easy to replace the sensor...to just bind the thermistor to the pipe with silicone tape and a small mount of foam insulation around it. The reading will be very similar to the internal method.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Thanks for the comment / info. I have thermocouples form my multimeter, and had been attaching them to the outside of the pipe, and that works really well. The meat probes do not work well like this, at all. I assume due to the shape and heat wicking of the large metal body. I may have some NTC thermistors for my 3D printer that I can use on the meat thermometer, but not sure if they are the same range. The original probes are 100K

[@easymac79]

5:55 Silicone is rated to like 500F +/- some are made for higher temps, but generally speaking, you should be able to dunk a Dollar Store silicone spatula in 475F oil and it will not cause any immediate harm.

[@realeyesrealizereallies6828]

Nice job...Maybe insulate your barrels for when your down for cleaning, or whatever other reason, as well as over all efficiency..Wonder if it would be worth cutting some registers in the basement ceiling/Living room/kitchen floors to let some of the heat to just rise through..Wouldn't want anything pressurized..Very nice, you went the whole nine yards..Lots of work and expense, but if you can get free used oil, and keep it running, it's a great way to heat the house, and it seems like your 98% of the way there..M Christmas

[@loweredexpectations4927]

I have considered insulating the barrels, but because they are in my house, any heat lost will go into my laundry room. If it were insulated, it would give me a little more control over when and where the heat goes. When I was growing up, my father cut a few holes and installed registers, and the old house used to have a coal fired boiler, and the house had poor circulation. I'm HOPING to install the heat exchanger into my furnace, so that the heat is distributed evenly... we will see how that plan goes. Yes, I am very happy with the system and think it is worth investing more into. I think you are right and it is 98% finished... sometimes that last few percent can be the hardest and longest.

[@lanceulbrich6249]

I imagine you have done this already but i have a temp controller just like that and it allows in the settings the ability to change thermo couple types. I have used tthe one i have with a K type. I like the setup pretty cool! Merry Christmas.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Thanks Lance. I have a PID controller that will allow me to do this, but these controllers don't seem to have that function... or at least, it is not in the manual. It would be awesome if I could. I'll have to power it up and get into the menu.

[@lanceulbrich6249]

@loweredexpectations4927 look for a setting that is just a letter or a couple of letters maybe Y. Yours is probably running a pt100 sensor. Might not mention it in the manual I don't remember. Love the thermal battery's you have there they work great I have thought about doing the same with an IBC tote but I DNT really have the room your utility room is far cleaner then mine. Mine is full of reloading equipment. I remember when I was building my wood burning boiler I blew a few hoses dry steam is really hot! It my be making steam. otherwise the other option is to make a longer lead from pipe or copper to get farther from the source

[@MrFlippingHappy]

Merry Christmas eh

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Merry Christmas to you to, Eh...

[@StratOvation]

Do you have any auto parts stores nearby Joel? All of them near me in the states are storing large tanks of waste oil and I think they pay to have it emptied. I wonder if that may be a source of waste oil for you?

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Hmmmm. Yeah. There are at least a few auto parts stores near me. I'll have to check them out. Not sure if they take waste oil here specifically because they would have to dispose of it. I suppose it would be a good idea to check out the MR Lube shops etc. I'm also going to try to dip a hose into a veg oil tank nearby, haha. Some of them are locked or gated, but I found on unlocked in the open, without any signs.

[@phafinley3052]

My system only has to run long enough to heat 200 gallons of water then shut fire off . The 200 gallons of water will heat my house for 12 hours then I start the fire again.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Yeah.... I calculated that if I heat 600L of water up to 80C, I should be able to heat my house for 23 hours after the burner goes out. (if I have a bypass loop and don't just dump my heat back outside.

[@caanyahearmenow1]

Merry Christmas. I did a setup like this in an old wood stove. It got way too hot and my expansion tank was way too small. I’m using a huge 20x24x4 exchanger in an old furnace with removed electric hot deck. I want to get an old gas water heater and try something’s. First, get a 8kw Vevor diesel heater and pipe the output and exhaust up the flue to see if it will heat transfer enough to make useable hot water. If not, I want to make a smaller burner, like in the below video, and pump it up that same flue. I know that will be hot enough. Great video. Thanks for the ideas. Here’s the small burner I found on this channel kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5LafnqjnJ1qntEfeature=shared

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Yeah, wood heat is pretty intense. You'd have to have a large storage tank as a buffer so that you could keep this under control. The 8kw heaters are really about 5kw of output. If you have an insulated storage tank and allow it to run for a while, you could heat water, but the recovery rate will be fairly low. I think you would need 4 heaters to have a reasonable recovery rate. Ultimately, you need a burner that can consume about 1.5 to 2 litres of oil per hour, to make enough heat. If you are not using natural gas or propane, it is a good idea to have storage tanks. Wood and waste oil burners do not like to switch on and off, so you need a place for the heat to go when you aren't using it or all of it.

[@Seelengeburt]

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[@loweredexpectations4927]

Nice... Spot on. Appreciated.

[@justicefornone3411]

Dude, give your dog more food. It is clearly malnourished

[@loweredexpectations4927]

It's difficult not to respond to this emotionally. I have written two comments and deleted them both. First, he's not my dog. Second, although I understand the reason for your judgement, you are making all of your judgements (I assume) based on a few seconds of video.