How KaiOS Is Becoming the 3rd Major Mobile OS

[@TechAltar]

I think I predicted this pretty well in a previous video I made over a year ago: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3-bYZuwidWaorM . I said that in order for a new mobile OS to emerge, it can't replicate what Android and iOS does, it has to do something completely different. It has to use a different software layer (I predicted the web), and a different form factor (I didn't predict the feature phone form factor). Either way, the older video makes for a good follow-up!

[@personal_utube]

TechAltar KaiOS is becoming very famous in India as well it comes with a very cheap phone called JioPhone. Oh! You already mentioned the JioPhone. Great.

[@personal_utube]

Great video

[@teleringdataspesialisten1869]

This is tremendously cool! :D

[@ankitraj6301]

Please change the map of India you used! It does not include full Provide of Jammu And Kashmir!

[@ropro9817]

TechAltar wow, how are Google's practices not considered anti-competitive?

[@mikecane]

Hadn't heard of KaiOS before this. Thanks.

[@ryandamoreyan2717]

For every non indians who are watching this video, I am a canadian and i have been staying in india for 2 months now and all the internet plans in india are cheap and the 4G speed is comparable with other 1st world countries. I have used Jio and i got 32Mbps and Idea : 40Mbps and airtel and vodaphone plans had the similar speeds. India is the best country to have not only data but only home internet at the cheapest cost. I am using an internet plan for 800 Rs and the internet is unlimited with 80Mbps speed .

[@StarLord7544]

ryan damoreyan I am an Indian and proud to see you like india

[@coonjamalay]

ryan damoreyan that's crazy internet package

[@SameriddAndCave]

I primarily use a flip phone running kaios and it has all the features a dumb phone should have. But there's a lot of bizarre bugs. Locking my connection to 1g randomly and after finishing a call it sometimes locks the screen brightness to full brightness. Making it so I have to manually go to the settings and change the brightness to lowest. Only way I was able to fix the 1g bug was factory resetting. Which is pretty shit.

[@chaowingchinghongfingshong3109]

Star Lord Lol, he never said anything about the country itself

[@ankur.vloggs]

Jio's advent into the tech industry completely changed the dynamics. From competitors making their tariffs cheap to compete with Jio or their new Jio feature phone. Everything has been going good for them. Jio literally forced out non 4G phones out of the market Now they'll do the same with their GigaFiber the 1GBps broadband project which will cost just 3.5 euros/ month And they're also planning to set up a university now! Crazy I think you should make a video on them for the story behind series

[@TechAltar]

I've had that on my to-do list for a while now, it's just hard to find a lot of quality sources on them to work from. I'll eventually come around to it though :)

[@NikhilYadav-rg2yn]

Ankur Tripathi Yes bro. Jio was a true revolution in India.

[@kushwantsingh3330]

Ankur Tripathi jio fiber is crap...i have ACT broadband giving me 200 mbps unlimited..... Easily i use 1TB data per week streaming 4k with it...... Jio is no competition for them

[@ankur.vloggs]

Peter Thiel act broadband? Haven't heard of it.. Where do you live?

[@shubhamt]

TechAltar That will be fun; Really looking forward to it.

[@eden4949]

Wait what? 42 GB for 2.35 dollars? I'm paying 10 euros for 1.5 GB here in Central Europe!

[@m.design]

Yes, Jio made a data revolution in India, one of the main reason of KaiOS success. I saw people around me who watches almost all the HD movies on their tiny little jiophones and enjoy their lives! We just don't get data but premium JIO services like JioMovies, music, magazines, shopping apps and payment apps, too!

[@gocman3]

Me too Are you czech?

[@Knightfire66]

no wonder they need 40gb+ if they watch everything in hd... i have samsung s8 but 1gb :/ max 360p xD

[@kaz9242]

And I buy 2 GB at 0.4€

[@raghavbatra12345]

actually truth is you pay around 5 dollars and you get 3 months of unlimited voice calls/messages+1.4gb data per day lol.this is the plan that most guys are using ..thats basically 120gb 4g data +unlimited calling 3 months for 5 dollars

[@obohp]

Smart move from Google here. By embracing this new OS that will inevitably become popular in large majority of countries they are collecting numerous amounts of data (which they thrive on).

[@TechAltar]

One might say their move was ... Brilliant? :P

[@tactiti0n]

They thrive on illegal data collection and firing good software devs for questioning their crayon collection. Ahh google.

[@erick-gd7wo]

That is exactly what i have in my mind. Sure a smart (super smart) move from Google to *have* the whole globe's data and to harvest them.

[@antonberglund117]

tactiti0n Send a request to Google and say that you want to pay a subscription instead off an ad-based OS, (and don't ask me how to get in contact with Google XD).

[@erick-gd7wo]

Anton Berglund ... that's unlikely to happen. You might be willing to pay, but many others, especially in Asia, could care less whether Google keep their minutious detail of their activity. All they want is 24/7 Sosmed live.

[@ashesh8085]

Internet prices in India sound really great

[@kushwantsingh3330]

Aurthur Radley actually its 4G-- 90 gb mobile data with no tethering restrictions, free calling to any phone and 100sms/day for 3 months for 5 USD.. Speeds touch 25 Mbps- 50 mbps

[@kushwantsingh3330]

Aurthur Radley plus I got a double data voucher for free....now i have 180 gb🤣

[@Ismail-cm8xs]

Aurthur Radley An average Indian lives on $2 a day. It isn't cheap. It's just that your country's currency is dominant.

[@musthavechannel5262]

Don't forget to bring your toilet with you.

[@rutger6034]

Thats like 50 Euros in my country

[@spikeman5103]

After 3 years still nobody heared about KaiOS...

[@qwert4871]

It’s quite niche: you would probably never heard of it unless you are interested in feature phones for some reason, as you’ve probably never heard of KaiOS’s direct competitors S30, RTOS, ThreadX and other lightweight mobile operating systems.

[@polishtimmy505]

​@@qwert4871sadly it lost whatsapp support which was a big advantage over other systens

[@secretscipio]

Before Jio Revolution, Internet in India used to cost $5 per GB. After Jio Revolution, it's 90 GB for $5. Not to forget free 10Gb data atleast 4 times a year.

[@vincentlaurensius8714]

Damn. I thought indonesia got the cheapest internet :0. Here, 1gb + unlimited KZbin costs a buck

[@secretscipio]

Nicholas check plans at www.jio.com

[@jeffdraper8293]

Those prices are incredible compared to what we're stuck paying here in the US!

[@quasimofo6480]

Okay KZbin, you got me. I finally watched it

[@arucane]

Same... this video would not stop showing up.

[@RaghunandanReddyC]

Lol

[@Jaxv3r]

Now raise your hands up.

[@keviando]

How can i experience the same thing ?

[@PandaZZZ4]

If this takes off then this could be the comeback nokia’s been looking for

[@wolfbite6]

i couldn't agree more

[@Connie_TinuityError]

Nokia is never coming back. They don't make phones anymore, it's actually HMD Global that are making these phones.

[@jahsua_animations4652]

Shut the hell your mouth

[@Supiragon1998]

I hope.

[@mahamadsulthan5966]

Jio is the reason for increased KZbin users in india 😁

[@TechAltar]

More power to Jio then :D

[@kushwantsingh3330]

Mahamad sulthan jio is the reason india has the cheapest 4g mobile internet and telephony IN THE WORLD.... All Westerners r very jealous 🤣🤣🤣

[@Ismail-cm8xs]

Mahamad sulthan That is why stupid Indian Bollywood dance songs got millions.

[@groberti]

I'm not really jealous of the cheapest 4G because just look at how those people live in India otherwise :S

[@kushwantsingh3330]

Grobee well... people had food, water and shelter only before now they have internet too....so I don't think its bad🤣

[@Joeink100]

So my drug dealer is gonna have a fancier phone now? Nice

[@akshit133]

Joeink100 😂 congratulations from me to him and good for u he will answer u quickly too so GG.

[@onyxsolo1]

Yeah, a phone that will finally allow the Federales to track, spy and shut him down

[@TheVertical92]

@@onyxsolo1 Yes finally he gets his SpyOS^^

[@jonixd4919]

Nothing with Microsoft hmd is Nokia

[@veromoh]

Nice... For Google

[@danodden9783]

I'm very jealous of those data plans.

[@veen88]

Dan Odden welcome to India 😎

[@pavanpratapsinghchauhan6804]

I AM USING THOSE TO UPLOAD THIS COMMENT

[@farmea633]

*Vin ay can you just give half of it, pls*

[@sukhjeetaujla7142]

Everyone is, and bcoz of more 4g users ppl are using less 3g. Which is gud for ppl like me who like in villages, cuz i get constant speed of 8Mbps on 3g. Which is great.

[@subhrodeepsaha9245]

@Ronald Z may i ask what is rm50?

[@TinRapper]

Mozilla is the real MVP

[@deadflee]

Max Đỗ i would say its linux..

[@zignasihmasmas4598]

Except when it's not kzbin.info/www/bejne/p36kfaBni9mbfbs Granted I still prefer Mozilla but I'm doing my part to improve it by spreading the word of these practices, so they can't happen again. I was even banned from Firefox' subreddit for this.

[@MikeTheEliteX]

Asian nigga

[@AZZAMNO1]

Mozilla is non-profit organization ?

[@commenter2567]

*GNU/Linux is its real name

[@Maky313]

4:24 1GB/day not a month i.e. the 1 GB data cap resets at 12AM and yes Reliance JIO has brought mobile Internet/4G to the masses in India because of It's incredibly aggressive pricing. They are also going to launch JIO Fiber based broadband at similar dirt cheap rates in the near future.

[@_yuri]

i got 2gigs a day for free for 90 day as an offer. so i basically get 4gigs a day for just what less than 8 dollars. 320ish gigs for 8 $

[@_yuri]

but that was one time offer 168gigs/84 days for 8 $ is still pretty good.

[@lovefrompk]

pink Fungi 170GB ( with carry on ) cost around same 8.5 USD to in India ( including free TV Access and Amazon Prime )

[@_yuri]

i am also from india lol

[@AbdulmoizKamran]

*No wonder why T Series is having more subscribers.*

[@groseriebagedotteevee]

Bollywood sucks

[@prashantgaikwad9808]

No u

[@headhunter895]

You will get your answer in this video itself, watch it again. Indians get 42 GB of highspeed 4G data for just 2 dollars, which is cheapest in the world ,making 4G internet affordable to millions of Indians and T series is benefiting from it.

[@nirmalpatel7925]

Abdulmoiz Kamran Wait, where are you from?? if US, then tell Apple to provide free 4G unlimited data on the green-card to whole country for a year... Then will decide what’s going on..

[@LordTrecs]

Speaking of T-Series.. Have you noticed that the music used the background is used by Pewdiepie in some of his videos?

[@vavi_]

man I miss Symbian,

[@surge5240]

vavi sithole symbain also dead with old Real Nokia.

[@kushwantsingh3330]

symbian was the worst OS ever

[@genichiroashina1]

nope it was able to run 3d games like call of duty on Ngage

[@vavi_]

still has nostalgic feeling for me though

[@MikhaelAhava]

vavi sithole aye… it was good… although newer OS seem more appealing.

[@ShiftK]

"Modzilla being Modzilla, made the OS open-source"

[@hellohowareyou4418]

Mozilla

[@therealshimo]

This is exactly the type of OS I wished “classic” phones with physical keypads had. After phones started getting bigger and battery life started getting shorter. I knew certain modernized flip phones had 4G capabilities but I never knew there was a serious OS like KaiOS. Thanks for this video!

[@TWLIV]

You do such a great job explaining things. Also can't believe how smooth that transition into the ad was. Saw it in the last one, so you'd think I'd see it coming, but it's just so buttery smooth! Please keep making great content! I always look forward to your videos!

[@KyleLi]

I suspect that a lot of what Google is attempting to do revolves around the idea of KaiOS being an entry-level phone. Google wants to make these entry-level users locked into the Google platform, so when they eventually do "grow out" and evolve from KaiOS and into smartphones, they will be stuck into the Android platform immediately instead of going into a competitor. It will also assist them in reducing KaiOS from expanding itself outwards into higher-end devices with their entry level userbase.

[@NinioAgra]

KaiOS means - Kill Apple’s iOS

[@someshsingh3780]

but how

[@hellohowareyou4418]

K - Kill A - Apple iOS - Apple's OS

[@jemagif78]

@@someshsingh3780 +

[@johnedzenguzman2613]

wahahaha

[@WilianSamuel]

K - Kill A - Android iOS - Apple mobile OS

[@BrandenMcNabb]

Every day that passes I hate Google more and more, almost as much as I hate Apple. Why did Windows Phone have to fail? I'm not saying I prefer Microsoft products over Google products, but more competitors in the market leads to more innovation which ultimately benefits us, the consumers.

[@zignasihmasmas4598]

Yet you can't trust Mozilla either. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p36kfaBni9mbfbs Granted I still prefer Mozilla but I'm doing my part to improve it by spreading the word of these practices, so they can't happen again. I was even banned from Firefox' subreddit for this. It's important information that people need to hear, so Mozilla doesn't become Google or Microsoft.

[@micglou]

Windows Phone/Mobile failing is completely Microsoft's own fault... they made promises they didn't keep like crossplatform app support, they did next to nothing to persuade developers to make apps for the platform and they didn't release enough interesting models to persuade consumers. I was also very fond of Windows Mobile/Phone... I've owned a Lumia 820, Lumia 830, Lumia 640 and Lumia 950 but when a couple of important companies stopped making apps (like banking apps) I had to leave the platform.

[@clock143]

totally agree. MS completely dropped the ball on win mobile. its almost like they had zero interest in it from the beginning. no marketing. no interest in bringing up their app store, nothing. the worst part of it is that their os and their phones were actually really good. they had apps and features that neither android/apple have or they're just coming out with now and marketing it like its something new. i had a couple windows mobile phones and loved them. great cameras, great battery life (probably because they didn't have any apps to use on it), hands down the best voice recognition of either android/apple. Apple being the worst. Right now I have both android and apple phones. If a competitor can come out with a stable os that is the same across their phone line, comparable apps and solid phone build, like nokia did for win mobile, I'd definitely check it out.

[@micglou]

The thing is that Microsoft just isn't used to push their products anymore, not since decades ago anyway.. they were criminally good back in the early Windows days and that's what made them the dominant desktop OS supplier. But because they're used to being dominant it seems they didn't have a clue how to properly promote Windows Phone/Mobile... in other words: the wrong people in charge. Only the Xbox division knows how to promote and push a product, but that's a completely different division... they should've had those people do the promotion. I still think it's the best smartphone OS I've used; it is very stable and easy to use.

[@Neptism]

why do you hate apple?

[@sheenpc]

Now do a video on how Reliance Jio disrupted and transformed Indian Telecom Industry. Now India has the cheapest data rates in the world and data usage is skyrocketing. KZbin, Netflix etc got the advantage from this.

[@VX92Q4]

I woul like a video that explaines in general: "Why the pricing for mobile data differs that much across the world"

[@ashmitmukherjee]

VX92Q4 due to the tax fares. Some companies rent the wires under the ocean some have their own

[@lolbitflores2795]

Now that HMD Global/Nokia has a smartphone share of 1%,I'm gonna celebrate this success.

[@enrique8292]

They better have a new version named Kaioken, Supreme Kai and King Kai

[@laurcen]

They can't it's ©®™

[@E--Drop]

Haha

[@Some-guy-on-the-internet]

I tried to use a Nokia 8110 4G as my main phone a few years ago. I did really like KaiOS but T9 typing is just awful and Googling a simple question could bring the hardware to its knees and cause the browser to crash. KaiOS has no doubt helped bring the internet to millions who otherwise wouldn't have access to it but the hardware that's being pushed out which runs it just isn't there. Sure, KaiOS can run on just 256MB RAM, but it really struggles while doing so. I believe a full QWERTY keypad and 1GB RAM would massively help KaiOS reach its true potential. Support for NFC payments would be nice too. I feel like a 4G remake of the Nokia E72 that met these criteria could be an amazing showcase for what KaiOS is truly capable of. The state of KaiOS phones really needs to change because right now, companies are just using KaiOS as an excuse to pump out crap hardware that can barely keep up with even the basics.

[@darealg6823]

watching this on a jio phone, as my samsung galaxy went supernova

[@quintenmclaughlin3110]

Lmao

[@kishuuudas683]

Lmao 😂

[@gocman3]

Do video about why Chrome has dominance over other browsers

[@surge5240]

iGenius just because of google services Firefox browser in reality much better than chrome if you compare ram usage and add on and extensions.

[@gocman3]

Surge Saber Do you use Firefox? Because I use it along with safari.

[@jm036]

because google. it's going to become the new IE6 and nobody is going to give a shit becaise it's google. people are constantly bitching about windows 10 while using chrome and android which do worse

[@kushwantsingh3330]

chrome is faster and supports almost any website with anything....flash,java anything just works

[@surge5240]

iGenius yes That's why replied you because i use firefox

[@mikesunboxing]

holy crap! I had never heard of the KaiOS It looks to be a big thing. Thanks for the info TechAltar. Appreciate it.

[@zinjanthropus322]

This is going to blow up the market in sub Saharan Africa.

[@zinjanthropus322]

tactiti0n That's only south Africa, 1 out of 53

[@melbournetransport8987]

I think Boko Haram already beat them to the whole 'blowing up markets in sub saharan africa' thing.

[@abhiraameranti8498]

KaiOS should be used in airplane TVs. It would probably work

[@Big_Z_zcbtkn]

It needs internet to work...

[@1ycx]

Not necessarily. Jio phones don't need 24/7 Internet.

[@darexinfinity]

Virgin Airlines (now merged with Alaska Airlines) used Android.

[@kingsofserbiangameplay1623]

@@darexinfinity, *Virgin America, Alaskan will never buy whole virgin group.

[@abhiraameranti8498]

Cool

[@meliusnosti9890]

Bring back NOKIA phones through this OS please. :D

[@aksingh3167]

There is Nokia 8110 ,and Nokia 2720 , based on kai OS you can buy it

[@PatriiickMusic]

Amazing video as always, extremely informative. Never heard of KaiOs until now.

[@ClashBerry]

+

[@kashi369_gaming]

You should definitely do a video on Jio and how it completely transformed the Indian mobile Internet industry. Before Jio came, two years back I used to pay about 5$ per month for 2 GB of data. Watching youtube on it was next to impossible. But now I pay about 6$ per 3 months for 126 GB of data ( 1.5 GB/day for 84 days). Basically, Jio made it possible for me to watch TechAltar. :)

[@batterietyp4059]

Amit Negi you know I am paying 10€ per month for 1 GB? And I am living in Germany

[@purpleravenstar]

Sad. They could have poured money into Maemo/Sailfish as it already builds from the mature Symbian platform...but nope, thats too open for them. Remember what Microsoft did to IBM and OS/2...embrace, extend, extinguish.

[@aatirsaadain7705]

SYMBIAN MUST REVIVE NOWADAYS PHONES ARE TRASH!!!

[@MrSandwichk]

3.5GB/day 91day for ₹398 after cashback and coupon. = ₹1.25/GB on Jio 4G. Two years ago it was ₹251/GB for 28 days on 3G. 0.0184$/GB

[@SuiYo]

Guess what, In Australia my mum's 2 year plan was 1gb/m for 30USD

[@zaraza.]

30 USD for 1 GB is a robbery but if you take average Australian salary into consideration and compare it to Indian one then the difference will not be as huge it seems to be. Now on the other hand think about the prices of electronics which are similar across the world. According to google search average Indian salary is 600 USD and average australian one is 5000 USD, so for example to buy a 15" Macbook pro you have to work 3.6 month in india and only 0.4 month in australia. These are rough numbers but you can get the general idea. Personally I would pick the austrialian prices (and salary) over the indian ones :)

[@SuiYo]

Very true zaraza. She recently *upgraded* to a $45 30gb deal which is miles better than what she was getting before. The plan was originally 15 gb but was doubled for a promo

[@amits4744]

Now 3G is just Rs.46/GB for 28 days. After 4G, even 3G rates have dropped a lot

[@samua4002]

ZC I am paying about 30€ a month for 4gb and it ain't even 4G

[@imicca]

i prefer SymbianOS :D

[@AkiraElMittico]

imicca N-Gage had that one , you can always get free stuff .jar 👍

[@rubberstack]

I have a N-gage and I still use it.

[@RMSLusitania]

Yeah, but i also prefer java too!

[@Patchuchan]

I feel Symbian was killed off too early as it was still a good platform.

[@Enidub]

Discovered your channel earlier this week and I'e gotta say it's already in my top 3 tech channels, keep up the awesome work!

[@goldy_on_pc930]

one of the main reasions the jio phone was an success because it that many people like to keep a secondary phone usually next to an iphone or Samsung as a backup to receive alternate calls if their man phone dies or take their backup phone not to say a large majority can't use ios or android especially the elderly

[@kushwantsingh3330]

well that secondary just became primary for many people

[@grivar]

Honestly I think it's time to downgrade to a flip phone. Modern phones are cool but ultimately I need to call people, use basic internet chats and get wikipedia. Just ordered (for next to nothing) the banana phone.

[@lapinus]

RE me too. Since I use my phone for KZbin, calling people, and internet use , I think I'll downgrade too. More money for upgrading my PC I guess!

[@marc_frank]

LOLIPHY and for a real camera. Can't even take 30 second exposure pics on my S7. 😑

[@grivar]

Marc Frank I never use my camera, so really every phone with a fancy camera I've ever bought was a bit of a waste

[@glueplay]

just buy some price/performance killer like the Redmi Note 5 pro

[@gcc4426]

you don't necessarily need to go "off the grid" from the smartphone landscape. there are pretty cheap smartphones (coming from respectable brands) with decent specs. xiaomi redmi line is one of them. i own a redmi 5A and it's around $100-$140. i use it most on checking emails, slack, trello, onenote and messaging. i'm not much into games or the camera so my expectations aren't too high given their price point. i no longer desire the flagship phones as i can't really maximize its usage and it costs more than what i basically need.

[@ch.illmatic]

No the Wii menu is the 3rd big mobile os

[@usdevineni007]

@@AverageUnixGirl what

[@usdevineni007]

@JCDMAN23 what

[@hkrahn93]

Hi, i lover your „the story behind" series and I have an Idea for you: could you explain why China hasn't banned android, but Google, Facebook etc?

[@vatsalgp]

djsbfjns ! Google and Facebook mine data and don't hand it over to China's government. Android doesn't mine any data.

[@SerBallister]

Android isn't commercially competing with anyone in China. Plus it would be difficult to recreate from scratch.

[@sydneytcp]

Android is an OS, while Google and Facebook are services through which information that the government of the PRC may not be comfortable with may be consumed by their citizens.

[@musthavechannel5262]

+SerBallister the commercial competitor thing is a chicken and egg problem. China is advertised as a fascist country because it doesn't sell its citizens to American spying agencies. China's citizens are pretty happy using their China made electric cars, China made social networks, China made payment systems, and China made phones... and they don't even know they are living in a fascist country until American "freedom" reaches them #sarcasm

[@sydneytcp]

MustHaveChannel China is known as fascist because they have an authoritarian government with no tolerance for opposing viewpoints

[@bittekeinddos196]

Never heird of it, but nice to see a third mobile os.

[@fakepro5848]

BitteKeinDDos yeah same. Always nice to see a new os becoming big

[@pokemaster12131]

TheFakePro gaming except Google already has it's hooks in it...

[@ashokkumarsaxena7867]

BitteKeinDDos Would be happier if windows os takes the third position on the smartphone market

[@SirFaceFone]

* Windows Phone cries in the background as Google actively suffocates it *

[@001100G]

Not true. If you really pay attention to Windows Mobile bashers you will realise that they typically fail to really test the OS to the point where it's advantages come our, preferring instead to resort to the app-centric models of competitors that they are used to. Real users however, recognise the innovation that went into it which, alas, competitor's marketing can to easily drown out

[@jamesharding386]

If Google floods kaio with its services bang goes any personal security controls. Been spending some time learning about Ubuntu and it looks promising even with glitches.

[@pratikgupta7373]

Jio is best It's cheaper than cheap

[@sandlini]

Check the plans of bsnl...

[@bigboy5573]

How can me pay one

[@abhiramshibu]

You are correct. Google should have their spyware already on kai os. Google is next level in developing web apps and spyware.

[@ov3rkill]

Google is dominating this monopoly game. First, the issue with EU and Google's anti-trust case. Second, API on certain websites loads faster on Chrome compared to other browsers like Firefox, Safari, Edge, etc. Third, investing and playing with KaiOS. I'm sure there's plenty more. I hope it won't kill KaiOS. It's like the updated Symbian OS but better.

[@Dave102693]

You mean they becoming 90s Microsoft.

[@Icybubba]

Google is going to get it eventually

[@VulcanOnWheels]

I like this video and you ended it with just about the smoothest transition into an ad I've ever had the pleasure of watching.

[@derLenno]

"Makes me a little envious" > pays 25€ for 1GB 4G per month in Germany > Germany

[@joerieper6768]

Lennart G. 18€ for unlimited 100mb/s 4g in finland

[@derLenno]

JoeRieper Why are we so far behind everyone else lol

[@joerieper6768]

Lennart G. I just calculated that only my phone has used 76 gigabytes and my pc has used over 1tb this month so I would be fucked if I had to pay 25€/gb

[@derLenno]

JoeRieper I used 310MB the last week because I'm throttled to 1Mbit/s since 3rd of July :)))

[@preciousjose]

Lennart G. Holy, how much do you suckers earn to pay that?

[@steller7515]

Woah! This TSB is like a secret sequel to the one you did about how there wouldn't be another OS. Smart Dumbphones FTW!

[@TechAltar]

Yeah lol, I re-watched it and they match up perfectly :D

[@steller7515]

TECHALTAR, YOU REPLIED!

[@MRAMAR94]

your transition to ads not only make sense they don't spoil the idea of the video. Kudos!!

[@lazydreamer4695]

well i have a jio phone... and its very good to use ... and also for our moms who hates touch screen android phones.... and its easy to use for them....

[@JANKOLLPLAYZFX]

OMG i need to get this for my grandmother, this is perfect. Whatsapp works, but she can use it like her old phone and doesnt need to learn about touch screens, gestures, etc.

[@Robert-yp9zs]

As of June 2024, the KaiOS web site has major work to do to be minimally useful. In trying to find which apps are available, their website was almost useless. Apps not listed in any order, numerous duplicates in listing. Then, trying to figure out its usability, left me unsure as to just how it works.

[@guenthersiu6002]

I looked at KaiOS after seeing your video, but notice that they appear to be in dire straits. Back in Sep 2021, Google appears to pull out of Kaios, so now they no longer have any google apps. KaiOS release version 3, which is faster than 2 but is not backwards compatible with version 2, requiring all of the developers to rewrite their program if they want it to run on version 3. It's more difficult to find KaiOS phone now, many low end phone are now being shipped proprietary OS like Series 30+ or AOSP. It's likely that KaiOS may have reach its end.

[@tonyvercetti8056]

Yeah, even whatsapp don't update their software for kaios 3.0, I really want to buy nokia 2780 flip

[@BANSPIDAKI]

video title: How KaiOS Is Becoming the 3rd Major Mobile OS Me: Kai-O-what?

[@snowzZzZz]

Being in college, Brilliant is the first ad that actually captured my attention. Absolutely correct on the process of trying to retain notes into memory long enough to pass a test, only to not have enough time in my schedule to convert those studies into a solidified understanding (time to practice, emphasis on developing an understanding). Condensed learning, stress and shit sleep, poorly laid slides, and filler courses that seem half baked summarize some of my initial gripes. I've had some good professors obviously, others not as much, but the system as a whole just seems to be geared towards grading you more so than making sure that you fully understand what you are doing. Obviously they teach, but I personally find that information does not become memorized for me until I have a full understanding of said information, which requires time/effort/repetition to develop, which does not exist when juggling work/school and multiple courses. Never thought I'd be complimenting an ad, but I suppose being bombarded with them builds up a sort of resentment towards them. Also my resentment towards school associated stress is real. I don't dislike education, I don't dislike learning, I dislike the execution of it all. There are better means of achieving the same or better result in terms of learning than what we currently have, it just requires proper revamp of our system. Yup I'm talking out my ass, had a good sleep and now I can think again (not necessarily a good think for the sake of anyone who reads this, if anyone). Or maybe I'm just shit, equally possible as others deal with the same system and make better use of it. All I know is that driving hours to sit through lectures for hours is hardly engaging to me (varies between professors), and stress combined with lack of sleep I feel does not have to be synonymous with school or learning. Being able to progress/learn at a pace relative to the learner I feel is important as this instills a feeling of confidence and readiness for tests/evaluations, where you are being evaluated relative to how you learn, rather than if you can adapt to a hectic time frame or not. Another improvement in my opinion would be testing someones understanding/knowledge rather than testing their ability to memorize pieces of information from textbook slides for a few days, or their ability to withstand pressure. Pressure is an obvious part of life; however, the process of learning does not require this. As long as it can be proven that the person is learning on their own, stress isn't a factor that builds better students. If anything a course based around an intro to psychology would be more beneficial (in all levels of school), although ironic given the structure of the school system (30% weight exam on dealing with stress associated with large exams). I could run a course on how to ramble worthlessly on KZbin comment sections, preaching about the need for a revised school system and issues with time limitations while utilizing my time writing shit comments. I learn better at my own pace, and I wish school had a greater or more balanced emphasis on understanding the knowledge that your are forced to retain, and I feel that a better system of learning does exist. We live in an information age and yet the best utilization/implementation of this I've seen is online textbooks with mandatory Labs (e.g., MyMathLab) to bypass the used books market, and Brightspace where descent when done properly, but annoying when the computer interpretation of the answer provided becomes an issue (accidental space, improper use of key words by maker of quiz, lack of human oversight). For real now I'm done. Correct me where I'm wrong, I'm open to discussions. Disclaimer once again, yes of course I know that there are others who deal with the exact same system and do just fine, at least on the surface. It's worth noting though that there is always someone better (with the obvious limitation of population, unless we're talking alt dimensions), and that everyone is different. Applying the same system to a wide range of people regardless of ability will not yield the same results. I for instance prefer to be moving rather than siting behind a computer, lectures do not engage me (my mind races and wanders withing a few minutes), and I am alright a high stress individual without school (the only pressure I have comes from myself). I lied, now I'm done. Take the length of this comment as a demonstration of my sporadic pissed off stressed out mind, not as a demonstration of quality > quantity or proving a point. I wasted my time, now maybe I wasted someone else's, how productive of me.

[@theformerkaiser9391]

I wish Windows Phone had become the 3rd most popular… oh well.

[@yakyakjack]

I’m just happy that Mozilla is getting the recognition it deserves, hopefully KaiOS will give some money back to them

[@TheGoukaruma]

Your channel and even your comments section is pretty good. Usually people get mad over tech stuff.

[@why_tho_]

That smooth transition to the sponsorship though

[@groberti]

Smooth sailor

[@msengg5752]

jio has destroyed India's major telecom operators.. even international company Vodafone as been merged with idea mobile. to avoid the loss,.. due this all the operators are providing plans at very cheap rate.. .. my plan is from BSNL(govt operators) which cost me 485₹ ~ 6.7$ for 90 day free calling free roaming every day 3.5gb 3g/2g data (it gives me speed of constant 8mbps which is OK for me)

[@FeelingShred]

Finally some good news in the world, delaying suicide trip to Vegas once again xDDD

[@elonmush4793]

Aaaaaand it's gone. Then KaiOS was never heard of again.

[@supernova-o3i]

It isn't in other countries

[@sebastiandewolfe7849]

What? It's still around.

[@yakyakjack]

It’s still insanely popular in key low income markets. It’s not gone it just simply isn’t popular in more prosperous countries.

[@FUN-kf4jj]

Make vdo on fuchsia OS

[@izzrainy7410]

There's not really much about it. There's not enough to make a video.

[@TechAltar]

Yeah I'd love to make a video about it, but there is so little info at this point that I would mostly have to speculate

[@hc6008]

Fuchsia is already disbanded.

[@florentberisha3095]

TechAltar I believe in you do it

[@wombatpandaa9774]

Hargie Curato then why is there an article written yesterday about Google replacing Android with it? www.androidcentral.com/google-fuchsia-wish-list

[@princexiaomi]

If they make phone with full keyboard ( like blackberry) I will buy it !

[@നല്ലവനായലോക്കി]

Search Jiophone 2

[@coincheff]

@@നല്ലവനായലോക്കി jiophone2 not available in Nigeria

[@putuadriyas5001]

maybe in the future, this is just the very beginning

[@Bigbadwhitecracker]

Same here.

[@mananagarwal7002]

Jio phone 2

[@exxodas]

Microsoft should buy KaiOS and prevent Google from destroying it

[@abasgames]

do you mean micro$oft with his shitty window$ and kaiOS it had linux kernel and microsoft heat that

[@TheVertical92]

No pls not. It should be developed open source by Linux developers. That way we can make sure, that this gets no SpyOS.

[@abasgames]

@@TheVertical92 we already have AndroSpy

[@TheVertical92]

@@abasgames I dont understand what you mean. They are both not good for KaiOS. M$ has WinSpy10 and Google has AndroSpy. Like i said, it should be developed open source like Linux

[@abasgames]

@@TheVertical92 yes

[@dojomojo5085]

Google and their monopoly.

[@FAT8893]

What to expect from a company that focuses on data collection.

[@tonyrogo227]

So your criticizing a companies success? Yeah...shame on them. Try using your head and make a more intelligent comment dude. You sound salty and like a kid not having his way in the world.

[@FAT8893]

@@tonyrogo227 I rather not celebrating the success a company that collects data from people around the world and sell it to the advertisers.

[@tonyrogo227]

@@FAT8893 ... Noones forcing anyone from using Google. But please don't be naive and think that's the only company that's done it..

[@tonyrogo227]

@Dex4Sure ...actually your wrong . I have no preference with google versus apple. There both solid systems that do a great job and make money on a proven system. Don't like them? Then don't buy them. Try harder before your gonna troll someone dick..lol

[@arnavarya3262]

Well i assume google is trying make kai os a version of android for low end or cheap hardware and i think it's a great hit, I've checked the jio phone (runs on kai os) and it's really good if you see it's basically free ( 1$for unlimited calls for a month!) ..

[@oposkainaxei]

After three years we can safely tell it wont… 😅

[@MMichael834r]

As well as after 5 years)

[@MegaNerevar]

TechAltar, it would be great if you do an indepth analysis of Jio's business model. It may feel like a utopia but if they force out cellular networks out of business and establish a monopoly, then its bad for consumers in the end. Also speeds may are quite varying because of the sheer number of users. All in all, jio single handedly destroyed 3G smartphones and digitalised india for people that couldn't afford internet earlier. We'll see how long this lasts though.

[@ajshdhenskaka]

That was the strangest way I've ever heard currency read out.

[@Windsorsillest]

Loving the videos friend. You definitely got a new subscriber here!! 📺💯

[@anishekanand381]

Kaios is popular beacuse of jio phone .

[@hackman-hackman]

Do phones running KaiOS have good battery life(1 month) or is it lower than most feature phones but a little higher than smartphones?

[@abhaysharma9317]

How on earth can a phone with internet services can have a battery life of one month even tesla's best batteries can't run this long.

[@shiskeyoffles]

Yes

[@josharntt]

I'm Jack's Nipples, dafuq is that even supposed to mean?

[@anilchandran3954]

It has one week for sure. But it depends on use. If u use Jio TV and movies apps , battery will deplete soon just like any android phone

[@amoledzeppelin]

Depending on how you use it.

[@mokhtartraples7225]

Appreciate your time for this video , all this information and the way you sort is great keep going man

[@JodyBruchon]

Ring ring ring ring ring ring ring...banana OS

[@jonjosaunders1465]

Am I the only one wanting a BlackBerry Classic 2 running Kai OS? I can forgo the touch screen as long as there is the track button and a good Email client.

[@BuiltInBrooklyn]

Jonjo Saunders Yes, you're most likely the only one....Maybe a few others.

[@JohnBilkey]

The Classic is a great phone, I use one now. BB10 does everything KaiOS does and more though.

[@mbieleni]

This 8110 has got two core 1.2Ghz DualCore SD CPU, 512MB of RAM and 4GB Flash so comparing to Palm Pixi almost 4 times faster CPU i 2x RAM and KaiOS works on 8110 and looks like a .... ok, there is no word in English that is sufficiently oratory. Why, why they killed WebOS and not used in similar designs?

[@amerramday]

I agree

[@inaveeth]

Your videos are always very well researched and worked upon. Keep up the good work!

[@MrSandwichk]

My secondary phone Jio phone runs on Kai Os and my primary OnePlus 6 runs on Android.

[@lilmoris1]

Why is this something special?

[@SafiMajid]

Feature phones have a big market. It is gonna be successful if they do it right

[@BilisNegra]

What kind of crazy world has this come to, where in a given country you can have an ultra-cheap data plan we all greed over in the rest of the world, but its linked to a ultra-basic device which simply cannot take advantage of it?

[@goldiful9439]

Those phones actually look cool.Might switch it with my Samsung Galaxy S8.

[@nabeelasifdev]

I use jio phone for unlimited monthly calling all over India only for $0.71 Jio FTW let's go.... 😁

[@grapy83]

Another great video TachAltar. Thumbs up again.

[@bsinfo5451]

I have a jio phone which runs on kai os and it works pretty well

[@vipinsl]

Fun fact: The jio phone is technically free!! The company will return you the money after 3 years if handed out the phone. So , that means if you don't lose the phone , then you'll get your money back!!

[@mahfah7911]

I am glad I found this channel. It talks about tech in general with great insight for lay man.

[@attomicchicken]

3g is considered legacy now?

[@MikhaelAhava]

Sebu T I still use it. Although I could use 4G/LTE.

[@mikabruh21]

Yes, why? It still relies on old protocol, plus 3G is an improvement to 2G networks, while 4G is a brand new radio network. Maintenance of the 3G+2G is too expensive and should be ended.

[@ShivamJha00]

No doubt it is

[@shiskeyoffles]

Whenever I don't need to use internet, I switch to 2G. It saves a lot of battery.

[@MustermannAnybody]

Yes. Already plans underway to remove 3G base stations in the next years. 2G will remain for voice backup.

[@Membrane556]

We need a third OS in phones.

[@mikesunboxing]

Having "apps" within a browser should have been the future. But instead we get loads of apps all taking up a lot of storage and resources. I have always said that the reason Windows Phone died was that they were betting on everything being web based, and the phone OS much like it's desktop counterpart, isn't really optimised to apps. What do you think?

[@jgreitemann]

Firefox OS sources have been published under the MPL which is partly copyleft. That mean KaiOS can't be all that closed, right?

[@Larroseba]

2022 and still nobody care about KaiOS

[@noone6223]

Your voice is so weird and relaxing, I love it.

[@utakatikmobil]

42GB for $2.35? sign me up baby!

[@memeistfy4774]

Yeah!!! Even Less sometimes 😘😘

[@chubbyBunny94]

Still haven’t heard of it

[@PurooRoy]

It's not very popular in the west. Also many people don't know it by its name.

[@wazzup233]

IMHO, KaiOS will be the Dark Horse of Mobile OS. It looks like it will become a hit especially that the main philosophy of KaiOS is to be the Mobile OS for the masses or a Mobile OS for the people who don't have enough money to buy expensive smartphones like IPhones or Samsung. This is the main target for KaiOS especially to the countries or places who still doesn't have an internet & mobile access or people who do really want to have a cellphone & internet but they'll buy on a cheaper one like in some African & Latin American countries, India, Southeast Asia, etc. & that'll be a huge market for KaiOS.

[@nicolasdesanantonio]

it's 2021 and this is my first time hearing about this. lmao 😂

[@Anthestudios]

I'd be interested in such a device if it sported a full QWERTY keyboard.

[@TechAltar]

Jio Phone 2 has a QWERTY keyboard

[@MikhaelAhava]

Nokia 5730 back in 2008/09.

[@josharntt]

If the Blackberry Key 2 was cheaper and got better software updates that would be perfect I think

[@kelvinafolabi218]

Like a Nokia E700? KaiOS looked a lot like Symbian at first glance.

[@awesomegameryoutuber7035]

Anthestudios t9 is good

[@lucatorre6783]

KaiOS is actually a darn cool project. I know that i majorly focused on seniors, but I would use it as long as I can flash apps like unofficial telegram ports and use Whatsapp (since it is supported). The only problem would probably be the keyboard, but I will get the hang of it. Onestly, Google is smart indeed for this move and KaiOS will probably rule the Feature Phones world. I'm only hoping for Google Drive next.

[@AsbaWebies]

Re Jio Dhan Dhana Dhan 😂😂😂..

[@secretscipio]

Those IPL ads😂😂😂

[@akshaykaladi]

Lmao 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 imagine this videos intro as that track

[@infernoscorpion6751]

Abbey idiot Indians chup

[@secretscipio]

Inferno Scorpion bol bhikhari