How Laziness RUINED Neymar's Best Friend

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@akibtafhim
@akibtafhim 2 жыл бұрын
"I miss a version of Ganso that never existed" This quote is hitting me hard. Seems like someone is talking about my life even I'm not an athlete...🙂
@FootballIconic
@FootballIconic 2 жыл бұрын
Nah you're perfect the way you are, bro 😂
@archipiratta
@archipiratta 2 жыл бұрын
Your statement cut deep bro. I sometimes feel the same, but hopefully we have time!
@212go
@212go 2 жыл бұрын
We all have that 'What If' which we never woke up.
@fillipeguimaraes2053
@fillipeguimaraes2053 2 жыл бұрын
Tostão is one of the few Brazilian geniuses alive. He was one of the greatest players and today he is an incredible writer. I never miss the opportunity to read his chronicles in the Folha de São Paulo newspaper. And he still has a degree in medicine! Hahaha
@eddielatinokid
@eddielatinokid 2 жыл бұрын
It’s never too late. Strive for more and you’ll get it.
@bhagyeshkotian1747
@bhagyeshkotian1747 2 жыл бұрын
The streets remember Ganso in FIFA 2013 with the worst stamina.
@GoddessOfMoon616
@GoddessOfMoon616 2 жыл бұрын
He is very slow. Always has been. People Just doesn't notice back then, because of his skills and talent
@McBigP13
@McBigP13 2 жыл бұрын
@@GoddessOfMoon616 his speed has nothing to do with his technique which was something out of this world. Had this kid not been so laziness he would've been a midfield general
@ziz728
@ziz728 2 жыл бұрын
@@GoddessOfMoon616 Wrong. Ganso was fast but he blew out his knee, he was out of action for 1 year and after the surgery he was never the same.
@zochiang
@zochiang 3 ай бұрын
No! The street$ will remember him for his Fifa 12 rating with 83 overall with 87 potential. Also, fifa 11 . Not fifa 13.
@dandanfortes
@dandanfortes 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree, as a Santos fan, and someone who was always at the stadium watching him, before his injured in 2011, he was very mobile, he even was leading Brazilians national league in tackles (over defenders). For me it’s clear the injury on his knee was a big factor for his decline.
@ecksbest
@ecksbest 2 жыл бұрын
He was lazy as fuck.
@gpzim981
@gpzim981 2 жыл бұрын
Preguiçoso pra carai
@FelipeVieira39
@FelipeVieira39 2 жыл бұрын
cara, eu assisti um treino do Santos em 2010, Robinho, Neymar e Ganso. ali deu pra ver claramente que o Robinho e o Neymar eram muito superiores a ele. Mesmo com essa suposta lesão que acabou com a carreira dele, ele não daria certo na europa. como o proprio Seedorf disse: muito lento pra jogar na europa.
@kap1526
@kap1526 2 жыл бұрын
But someone can say players like R9 had similar injuries and made most of his opportunities
@FelipeVieira39
@FelipeVieira39 2 жыл бұрын
@@kap1526 Ganso was lazy and slow to play in europe. period!
@ZexaXIII
@ZexaXIII 2 жыл бұрын
Oh you made me nostalgic. I nearly forgot about that lad. Thanks for bringing the memories back.
@FootballIconic
@FootballIconic 2 жыл бұрын
No worries!
@acidrazor66
@acidrazor66 2 жыл бұрын
dude if you “nearly forgot” about him is cause you’ve never seen him playing at all 😂
@bonecochorumelas7546
@bonecochorumelas7546 Жыл бұрын
Search for Ganso Fluminense 2022 here on KZbin. There's a video from 2 months ago, channel name is futcrown. You're welcome
@viniciusernesto3914
@viniciusernesto3914 2 жыл бұрын
I watched him up close and like many other Brazilians, we all saw him as equal to or even better than Neymar at many points. The issue is that his game is outdated and many other players with skillsets that are similar also struggle in Europe. The lack of work rate and injuries made it so he couldn’t adapt at all. Not to mention his ridiculous ego. To this day he’s still hated by many because he seems to think that he’s in any way special. So you can imagine what it was like when being compared to Zidane.
@FootballIconic
@FootballIconic 2 жыл бұрын
That's a real shame. I remember hearing about him before hearing about Neymar and thought once he got to Europe he would be unstoppable...
@mateusfernando5847
@mateusfernando5847 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more, and also "outside the pitch," he had some messy personal relationships that definitely contributed to all of it.
@Suren2122
@Suren2122 2 жыл бұрын
@@mateusfernando5847 like what?
@robinsoncruise2228
@robinsoncruise2228 2 жыл бұрын
and neymar was an absolute beast. I had never seen nothing compared at the time. I was 12
@40cents29
@40cents29 2 жыл бұрын
As a Brazilian and Santos FC fan, I can guarantee you that everyone expected more from Ganso than Neymar, Ganso was amazing before his Sad injure, till this day you can see some glances of his greatness but he lost all his speed and explosiveness. Its sad to see youngsters like him coming from our club going down like this, I wish he ended like Neymar, Felipe Anderson and Alex Sandro, ALL great and stablished players from our 2009-2011 Santos...
@Usario321
@Usario321 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone? Lol I thought Ganso would become world-class, but I always knew Neymar was gonna be better… and a lot of people thought the same
@GoddessOfMoon616
@GoddessOfMoon616 2 жыл бұрын
@@Usario321 Then you didn't watched football back then
@jensgabrielarbeitmunck1918
@jensgabrielarbeitmunck1918 2 жыл бұрын
I'm also santista, I remember people debating ganso x neymar but it wasnt as if everyone thought ganso was best. Plus, the professional world expected more from Neymar since day one. Nike signed him when he was 13 or so, Real madrid was running after him and we all remember how his debut against oeste was highly expected, those are all things ganso never lived. Ganso had a couple of fantastic seasons while Neymar was a kid us supporters were expecting since long before he started playing pro
@UnitedPacci
@UnitedPacci 2 жыл бұрын
@@GoddessOfMoon616 Definitely did watch. He is right they both were very good. BUG Neymar was obviously the more talented one.
@ecksbest
@ecksbest 2 жыл бұрын
Há controvérsias. Muita gente lembrava de Diego-Robinho nessa comparação aí. E muita gente sempre achou o Neymar mais jogador, até por ser mais novo e fazer tanta, ou mais, diferença quanto.
@ayushman8878
@ayushman8878 2 жыл бұрын
Such a technically gifted operator..... could've been the next rivaldo
@tomKATT92
@tomKATT92 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, all I remember about Ganso is that in Football Manager games of years ago he was an FM God. It's sad to see how he didn't live up to his hype, but not eveeryone can sadly.
@larrywilliams4967
@larrywilliams4967 2 жыл бұрын
I remember getting in fifa 12 manager mode his growth was insane
@Iron-Bridge
@Iron-Bridge 2 жыл бұрын
Same. Then he seemed to just fall off from the actual football world.
@tomKATT92
@tomKATT92 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I have a rom of FM13 on PSP and he's always my first get in the game lol. On that game you can also get Neymar for free in the second season >.>
@Botosanipeople
@Botosanipeople 2 жыл бұрын
Also gabriel barbarosa.
@holtzz_mc
@holtzz_mc 2 жыл бұрын
@@Botosanipeople Mas Gabriel conseguiu construir uma grande carreira no Brasil, mesmo sendo muito novo. Ganso não conseguiu se consolidar na Europa nem na América do sul.
@calamorta
@calamorta 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see international channels talking about Ganso. And you did your research really well, but I just wish you had mentioned the key games for Sevilla that made him look horrible. I remember one in particular that was against Real Madrid at Santiago Bernabeu. His laziness got exposed when he got his big chance and then it was downhill from there. I'm a São Paulo fan and he was the most frustrating player I've ever seen in sports. He was a good 1v1 tackler, maybe he could have adapted his game to a contending midfielder role, but he was sluggish and was easily guarded because of his lack of movement. (Like Seedorf says. They were comparing Ganso to Pirlo and talking how he could play Pirlo's role, then Seedorf said something like "no, no, no. Pirlo moves a lot. It might not look like he does but he does. Ganso doesn't"). He also knew how to shoot a ball but never really trained to become a freekick specialist, which would have made him a more valuable piece even if he lacked the intensity. But the worst part was how he would have 2 genius games, displaying his top notch vision and close relationship with the ball, and then 10 below average games in a row lol this lack of consistency defined his days before he became garbage. Now he's constantly bad and hasn't played for Fluminense in months (injury and coach's option), but back then he would deceive fans. If he had more work ethic and practiced free kicks, he could have become a one footed (his right foot really wasn't good) Walmart version of De Bruyne. Honestly, this would have been more than enough to become a force in Brazilian football and maybe even become a decent player in Europe.
@rad1223
@rad1223 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed reading that, very nice insight. Thanks
@David-qq9bk
@David-qq9bk 2 жыл бұрын
crazy how two of the biggest brazilian "failed" wonderkids are known by the nicknames "goose" and "duck" (ganso and pato). even crazier is that both were born in the same year
@power279
@power279 2 жыл бұрын
Luck was not with them
@007Fusiion
@007Fusiion 2 жыл бұрын
There was one at Barcelona too. Can’t remember is name though. I know it’s not Kerlon (the seal).
@edoardosecreto4775
@edoardosecreto4775 2 жыл бұрын
@@007Fusiion keiresson former barça. He was a machine goal before arriving at barça
@007Fusiion
@007Fusiion 2 жыл бұрын
@@edoardosecreto4775 Thank you. That’s his name. Man, his career took a nose dive. But I don’t think he’s named after a bird like the others.
@edoardosecreto4775
@edoardosecreto4775 2 жыл бұрын
@Bvbs even though he failed to express himself.
@RasenRendanX
@RasenRendanX 2 жыл бұрын
Real ones remember Ganso. He and Neymar were a dynamic duo.
@paulovinicios3273
@paulovinicios3273 2 жыл бұрын
And now, on My Fluminense, is playing his best since Santos. The Year is Promissing.
@thiagom1054
@thiagom1054 2 жыл бұрын
I miss this 2010-2011 Santos. Ganso was a genious. He helped Neymar to get attention of the world. If I would compare, Ganso played like an Ozil style. Absolute genious. But after the injury, he was never the same.
@Marcelo-ol7lf
@Marcelo-ol7lf 2 жыл бұрын
Look, I'm Brazilian, so I've watched this unfold from a close distance. Although Ganso really is kinda lazy, his knee injuries were way more significant than people believe. He has never been the same since that. And yes, he was actually better than Neymar at his peak
@BRNakamura
@BRNakamura 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a Santos fan, and the rise of Neymar and Ganso coincided with the moment I started taking football more seriously. Ganso was incredible. I've yet to see a player do so much with so few touches in Brazilian football (keep in mind I'm 25). Dude was a control tower, balls reached him and he would redistribute smartly so quickly. An absolute Maestro in his best days.
@franciscowellington7082
@franciscowellington7082 2 жыл бұрын
Palmeiras sem mundial kk
@BRNakamura
@BRNakamura 2 жыл бұрын
@@franciscowellington7082 Por mim, que nunca tenha kkkkkkkk
@lucasfranco6390
@lucasfranco6390 2 жыл бұрын
its not about laziness. Ganso teared his Anterior cruciate ligament in both left and right knees, this ligament is responsible for knee and leg stablity. its basically impossible to perform in high level when you're submitted to an injury like that. As a brazillian and Santos supporter i've seen Ganso play a lot and it was insane, its a shame we didn't get to see him at his prime
@raphaelmapp8407
@raphaelmapp8407 2 жыл бұрын
This video is another banger. I completely forgot about Ganso
@srbtlevse16
@srbtlevse16 2 жыл бұрын
At the end of the day, the pure natural #10 is a role which has almost disappeared. If you are a natural #10 in modern football, it will be very difficult to succeed unless you are willing to work very hard and to adapt to other creative roles on the pitch such as winger, support striker, raumdeuter, midfielder, etc. like many players have done
@theokrata
@theokrata 2 жыл бұрын
Streets wont forget Ganso before the knee injury
@filipradojcic461
@filipradojcic461 2 жыл бұрын
I remember Neymar hype very well at Santos, Ganso was still wanted by many European clubs but Neymar being younger, fresher and because of that got bigger attention from general public. I personally think Neymar stint at Santos is very underrated moment of modern football, it is not even being mentioned by press and public how much he has achieved so early in his career. In my honest opinion, Ganso's playstyle was a little bit outdated for Europe even then, mid-tier defenders knew how to defend against it, coaches at big clubs did not use players like him anymore. Sure, he could have work his playstyle around, to adept and improve but that requires another level of sacrifice which he wasn't willing to take. If he only played football in 90's, early 00's, he would have pretty nice stint in Europe but by the time he actually emerged, Europe had enough of that playstyle and clubs/coaches asked for something different. Nice video by the way, looking forward for more content from you. :)
@jackmanders7077
@jackmanders7077 2 жыл бұрын
What Neymar did in Santos will go down as Brazilian history . But in comparison to actual football in the 21st century it’s nothing. Since Neymar came to Europe almost a decade ago he’s only scored 150 goals , and his form for Brazil slowed down tremendously. If Neymar stayed in Brazil he’d be at 700 goals rn .. but are those goals worth more then Messi’s, Ronaldo’s etc.. absolutely not
@henriqueteixeira2998
@henriqueteixeira2998 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackmanders7077 150 goals is a lot bro... Considering how many times he got injured too. If you look at his numbers in each club, then you'll see that in Santos he had the "worst" productivity in his career.
@kaizenryan3390
@kaizenryan3390 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackmanders7077 No Neymar has more than 150 goals in Europe. I don't know correctly,but he has 120+ goals in barca itself. Now include his psg and Brazil ones. Overall he has 401 goals, 220+ assists in 650+ games His G/A to games ratio is better than thousands of footballers. Yes thousands
@jackmanders7077
@jackmanders7077 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaizenryan3390 105 for Barca in all comps
@gustavo4475
@gustavo4475 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you. Ganso would be a brilliant middle fielder in the 1994 World Cup.
@СлаваРоссия-у7ж
@СлаваРоссия-у7ж 2 жыл бұрын
Ganso was expected to be a huge superstar in Europe too. Unfortunately it didn't materialize.
@gavinperry8433
@gavinperry8433 2 жыл бұрын
Damn I had almost forgotten ganso..... I remember in fifa 2012 or 13 .... He was one of the most highly rated players and within 2-3 seasons he would reach 90+ rating
@korriban3778
@korriban3778 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@FootballDrawn
@FootballDrawn 2 жыл бұрын
The "Bordeaux Wine" of football. I remember how Milan was after him, but Santos slapped a 30 million Euro price on him (at the time, a very high price). This video takes me back in time ⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽
@moumenrezaei1330
@moumenrezaei1330 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@micahkiyimba8641
@micahkiyimba8641 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. He would have been playing with Robinho and Pato..maybe that would help hm settle in
@FootballDrawn
@FootballDrawn 2 жыл бұрын
@@micahkiyimba8641 I remember playing him in Football Manager 2010. He wasn't just a wonderkid in that game. He was already a star :))
@sbtgamil5536
@sbtgamil5536 2 жыл бұрын
indeed
@Joeybandough
@Joeybandough 2 жыл бұрын
Ganso was the on his way to being the best cam 😭 you surprised me on this one homie I’m Brazilian and we were so hyped for him 😕😕😕
@Joeybandough
@Joeybandough 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I think I’m 2011 santos won the treble, and I REALLY wish he went to ac Milan 🥺
@FootballIconic
@FootballIconic 2 жыл бұрын
I heard about Ganso before I heard about Neymar. Had such high hopes for him :(
@Pineapple69
@Pineapple69 2 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing Ganso, I wish he made it just like Adu.
@joaocoelho9754
@joaocoelho9754 2 жыл бұрын
Adu never made it
@mostafamansour2495
@mostafamansour2495 2 жыл бұрын
Meaning he failed just like adu
@jamesmccarthy6764
@jamesmccarthy6764 2 жыл бұрын
@@joaocoelho9754 He wishes he made it like he wishes Adu made it!
@UnitedPacci
@UnitedPacci 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah man shame to see guys like Adu and Ganso never made it😢. Or what about Ben Arfa or Robinho😢
@mostafamansour2495
@mostafamansour2495 2 жыл бұрын
@@UnitedPacci well Robiho kinda made it he played for RM and ACM was very influenceial for both of them. Definitely under achieved but had a somewhat decent carrer
@flprtc
@flprtc 2 жыл бұрын
just played probably his best game in the last 5 years last week, helping Fluminense win a trophy it hadn't won since 2012, guy still got some magic in him, just an old school player in the modern football era
@alvaroelandres6320
@alvaroelandres6320 2 жыл бұрын
GANSO once played here in Bolivia in a Copa Libertadores Match.. and His moves, his level, his vision of the game, his passes, OMG and Different kind of player and higger upper lever, but we can say he didnt get to give his best in the greatest leagues thats sad
@19you1
@19you1 2 жыл бұрын
Ganso and Lucas moura. They were the ones touted to be Neymars equals. Ganso failed and Lucas moved to PSG early and tried to get ahead of Neymar, didn’t work.
@eddychelene2124
@eddychelene2124 2 жыл бұрын
Lucas still took the spurs to the UCL final
@saladtossing4332
@saladtossing4332 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos and your voice are really chill It makes me relax and satisfy my football videos watch time
@FootballIconic
@FootballIconic 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@marcelofrey4966
@marcelofrey4966 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on this great non-eurocentric take on Ganso! I too thought that he would the a world class talent back in the day. Ironically, I'm a Fluminense fan and have to watch this hurt and underdeveloped version of the player wearing my club's colours. But you are right. For sure Paulo Henrique has achieved what many players will never reach through their careers!
@welowee7610
@welowee7610 2 жыл бұрын
Ah Ganso, I remember him almost got signed by Inter Milan. And then he suddenly gone. I think he’s just unfortunate because modern football doesn’t use “number 10” position anymore. Great video mate
@rafaelrp07
@rafaelrp07 2 жыл бұрын
As a brazilian is not laziness. His knee injury has taken most of his talent. I'm São Paulo supporter and he played to my team after Santos and healed his injury but he was never the same. It's clear to many altough no one public acknowledge that Ganso just kept in football/soccer the way he could to prolong his carreer in big teams as long as he can to earn sufficient for his retirement. Dude gave all his life to the sport and problably it's all he knows to do well. Some people don't like him, think he's self entitled but all his career he wasn't invoveld in any controversial, neither had partied hard. He had always left his family far from the public eye (he's married with kid and I've seen them only once on TV). In this context he's different from others like Neymar. He is also very short in words when giving interviews...and I personally think he also had severe emotional problems after his injury. He used to have more joy, he became a different person after his health problems.
@luisitoviii1090
@luisitoviii1090 2 жыл бұрын
It's ironic cause Neymar is regarded as one of the laziest in modern football.
@JulianoBueno84
@JulianoBueno84 2 жыл бұрын
In 2010, people in Brazil wanted to see a frontline of the National Team in World Cup with Kaká, Ganso, Neymar and Luís Fabiano. For some reason, Dunga (the manager) decided to call Nilmar (Villarreal) and Júlio Baptista (Roma).
@korriban3778
@korriban3778 2 жыл бұрын
I remember this, one of the dumbest calls
@sugarjaydavid
@sugarjaydavid 2 жыл бұрын
If Neymar was supposed to be a modern version of Ronaldinho, Ganso was supposed to be a modern version of Zidane, no joke, he's technical quality was unbelievable, but after his injury he was never the same, at least he was useful in São Paulo 🇾🇪🇾🇪🇾🇪
@rickm.10
@rickm.10 7 ай бұрын
He played football, not running after a ball which is what football has become. He’s pure class regardless of his pace and work rate
@rodrigosfc92
@rodrigosfc92 2 жыл бұрын
I'm Brazilian and supporter of Santos. What's really happened is that Ganso broke his knee in 2010. After this, he never reocovered his best performance.
@thaigo_tigas_tigo
@thaigo_tigas_tigo 2 жыл бұрын
3:32 using a brazilian meme for this video seems very fitting haha. Also, I'm loving your channel man, great video, we brazilians always get excited when "gringos" make videos about our stuff haha
@schiggsboson7684
@schiggsboson7684 2 жыл бұрын
Bojan, Nani , .... And many more who were wonderkids but never rises to the mark we expected,,,, sometimes I think how lucky is Messi or Cr... There are many many factors in this path which a player can not control like some injuries.......... Luck is always needed , and i understand it deeply in this video
@federicolusardi9707
@federicolusardi9707 2 жыл бұрын
Nani has been a fantastic winger for years in Utd
@avafin1
@avafin1 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like a common occurrence among talented Brazilian players
@rocclimbing8123
@rocclimbing8123 2 жыл бұрын
Similar idea to this one would be a showcase in Yoann Gourcuff. I remember compilations making him look like a Zidane reboot
@FootballIconic
@FootballIconic 2 жыл бұрын
Dude bossed it at Bordeaux when they won the league. Great video idea!
@rocclimbing8123
@rocclimbing8123 2 жыл бұрын
@@FootballIconic Thank you! Great work!
@fsaeuqwe
@fsaeuqwe 2 жыл бұрын
at least Gourcuff did won a league as a key player in his resume with Bordeaux to end Lyon's dominance.
@ras7646
@ras7646 2 жыл бұрын
Also Javier Pastore
@azizanputra
@azizanputra 2 жыл бұрын
@@FootballIconic Yes please. Always wonder what happen to Gourcuff. Why has he sucked since winning it was his move to Lyon?
@kauecampos8756
@kauecampos8756 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't lazyness, he had an serious injurie in 2010 and since them suffer with various other muscular injuries that committed his physic. He simply can't play as intense as other players do, in his place, many would have retired. If something, he has a beast mentality
@ammarharith5512
@ammarharith5512 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when my friend played FIFA 13, he signed Ganso and utilised him to full effect.
@ramonnelson7007
@ramonnelson7007 2 жыл бұрын
I use to watch santos just watch the midfield star Ganso then he just fell off the map sigh . Amazing talent with a crazy left foot
@faarisaskar1163
@faarisaskar1163 2 жыл бұрын
Used to play him in pes 2013 santos and i really liked his creative skills.
@rae6338
@rae6338 2 жыл бұрын
My biggest take away from this video is the “STi” on the santos Jersey a bit odd
@Dr_Diaz
@Dr_Diaz 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't really all laziness..it was the injury that broke his leg..he was never the same
@mirauaram
@mirauaram 2 жыл бұрын
one of the best descent youtube vid I've seen so far
@paulohenriquerasia6110
@paulohenriquerasia6110 10 ай бұрын
I remember being a kid watching ganso playing at Santos, there was not a single game where he would not impress me, the biggest talent he has is the capability to read the game. He always saw more than one possibility, he would make a passing choice no one else was expecting. even after the injuries I hyped him because of this, when the game seemed lost, he would find a pass or a long range shoot that could change everything.
@someguyfromarcticfreezer6854
@someguyfromarcticfreezer6854 2 жыл бұрын
I remember Ganso not because he is great, but he was a beast talent in old FIFA game.
@Soccerates
@Soccerates 2 жыл бұрын
Ganso couldn't move. As modern football got quicker, he couldn't hang. If he adapted his game like Juan Roman Riquelme did, he'd be an all-time great. It's such a shame.
@Truebro79
@Truebro79 2 жыл бұрын
Controversial opinion but i personally think laziness ruined Neymar himself, and he could have been even better than what he was if he trained and worked harder
@matthewhernandez8342
@matthewhernandez8342 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you, he could’ve been Cristiano Ronaldo level at least if he trained really hard like him.
@syauqatfikri4908
@syauqatfikri4908 2 жыл бұрын
True that.. By now neymar should be hogging the glory.. Replacing the rivalries that we know as Messi and ronaldo
@kaizenryan3390
@kaizenryan3390 2 жыл бұрын
I would say it's his injuries With more games he could have proved more
@shakenblake4533
@shakenblake4533 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's more of his injuries that ruined neymar. Maybe he should've trained harder too but playing at the top level at Barca and delivering is hard work in my eyes
@kaizenryan3390
@kaizenryan3390 2 жыл бұрын
@@shakenblake4533 exactly when he was injury less We saw what he was able to do in 2015 and 2017
@Siphomudau1990
@Siphomudau1990 2 жыл бұрын
There's always a good reason to insert that Aguero clip😂 Another great video. Tbf, I'd never really heard of this lad myself but its certainly an interesting concept for a video series: "The Nearly-There Boys"
@bossykxngtahzai16
@bossykxngtahzai16 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is massively underated
@MrBESTINTHEWORLD316
@MrBESTINTHEWORLD316 2 жыл бұрын
He kinda dont care about being a world class football player, hes happy doing what hes doing, and Fluminense supporters (hes club now) really like him.
@MrBESTINTHEWORLD316
@MrBESTINTHEWORLD316 2 жыл бұрын
@Souless Survivor i have a friend who is a Fluminense supporter, Ganso is not playing great there but the fans like him, they often use his face as avatar in social media.
@ejamovic
@ejamovic 2 жыл бұрын
Ganso, remires, oscar, hulk, its really sad and make me frustrating not seeing them play at the top of the world at their peak. 😣
@ascendedlad1955
@ascendedlad1955 2 жыл бұрын
Make a video about Sebastian Deisler, injuries really ruined that talented superstar
@diogodude6833
@diogodude6833 2 жыл бұрын
I remember back then I thought Ganso would have a better career than Neymar :(
@RasenRendanX
@RasenRendanX 2 жыл бұрын
I remember that was a very popular opinion too
@keshav7428
@keshav7428 2 жыл бұрын
Same with Ronaldo and Quaresma back in the déy
@caioaugusto2213
@caioaugusto2213 2 жыл бұрын
That quote by Seedorf became a meme here in Brazil, and it is sometimes remembered when some people talk about Ganso.
@acidrazor66
@acidrazor66 2 жыл бұрын
honestly, I wouldn’t say it was laziness alone that led to his downfall, not even the major reason. in my opinion, the injury he had in his knee ligament was more crucial
@chanendlerbong
@chanendlerbong 2 жыл бұрын
Damn i remember them back in 2012 when i used to play PES with them, nostalgia
@ettavictor4804
@ettavictor4804 2 жыл бұрын
PES 12 with Santos was really fun
@matthieuhostekind309
@matthieuhostekind309 2 жыл бұрын
I totallllly agreee.i used to live in Rio de Janeiro when all Brasil and me wanted (and even were willing to go to the streets) to see ganso (before neymar at the time) in the seleção squad for the months away wwcup... On the spot again my "friend of great debating soccer" 👍🏼
@jawaduddin2181
@jawaduddin2181 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video as always
@FootballIconic
@FootballIconic 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@josepservat211
@josepservat211 2 жыл бұрын
This nice story deserves my subscription !
@LeonPessanha
@LeonPessanha 2 жыл бұрын
Tô be fair his injuries really broke the guy. He was a genius, but I believe his mind got broken after he realized that he wouldn't be transfered to a huge club as Neymar were. So after injuries and bad choices, his brilliance was gone.
@relaxingmusic2924
@relaxingmusic2924 2 жыл бұрын
Love the content you put out bro
@abd-bm3cd
@abd-bm3cd 2 жыл бұрын
Wow thank you. I was just wondering what the hell happened to this guy randomly a few days ago. I think I actually rated Ganso and Lucas higher than Neymar at the time 🤦‍♂
@thatguywesmaranan
@thatguywesmaranan 2 жыл бұрын
it goes to show that there's more to football, and life in general, than talent... it's what separates good players to great players to legendary players... the latter two put in the time and effort to constantly hone their craft and take care of themselves, to grow and improve even more...
@BrenoutTV
@BrenoutTV 2 жыл бұрын
It's not only about lazynes, it's about serious injuries too! Poor guy, Everyone here in Brazil had much more expectatios on this guy that had on Neymar
@mothecleverchild3583
@mothecleverchild3583 2 жыл бұрын
Subbed to your channel cause of Ganso ❤️
@selabekute9659
@selabekute9659 2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear a South African doing his thing on this channel.
@munoz1899
@munoz1899 2 жыл бұрын
As an AC Milan supporter, I remember talk about him being Kaka's heir. Not sure how credible that ever was, but it was exciting to think of him with Milan but in a weird turn of events he ended up signing for Sao Paolo. It would have been nice to see him team up with Pato.
@eduardhermesanschau9590
@eduardhermesanschau9590 2 жыл бұрын
As a Brazilian I can say that he could reach a higher level than Kaka.
@JNN-
@JNN- 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy how to most of us Santos fans Ganso was seen as the better of the two before the knee injuries
@jocapoc
@jocapoc 2 жыл бұрын
You should do a video about Muricy Ramalho, the coach you quoted on the video. He has a amazing story and a deep connection with São Paulo the team with most international trophies in Brazil. He started being ellected in a "Who will be the new Pelé" contest as the winner and played for São Paulo, then became a coach for São Paulo on it´s best days in recent history and now he´s the "Soccer Manager". He also was the coach who debuted Neymar and has a very unique perspective of his career.
@williamrobson1438
@williamrobson1438 2 жыл бұрын
You hit the nail in the head with everything you said in the video.
@BroSefat06
@BroSefat06 2 жыл бұрын
I like the layout of these videos, simple and concise, job well done mate
@steliodegrasse5905
@steliodegrasse5905 2 жыл бұрын
Once again we'll say, Discipline. If you don't have it, you can't reach your highest potential.
@saltyinc.912
@saltyinc.912 2 жыл бұрын
I feel warm inside every time when I see a new Football Iconic video, but we don't talk about that😁
@felixkeunecke9224
@felixkeunecke9224 Жыл бұрын
Nowadays he's playing very well in Fluminense FC, I hope he returns to his prime
@rodolfolelisabrusiodeolive651
@rodolfolelisabrusiodeolive651 2 жыл бұрын
Here in Brazil, Ganso never played that well too. After his return to Brazil, the only function that he would execute well was to delude the football fans. Ask São Paulo supporters what they think about him.
@Dan_WATP
@Dan_WATP 2 жыл бұрын
Love this channel man Still praying on the eventual Rangers video
@theambiance1815
@theambiance1815 2 жыл бұрын
Why would he turn down small teams? I think it was more of pride and bad attitude. This is why you should never despise small beginnings.
@isaacasante7254
@isaacasante7254 2 жыл бұрын
I loved Ganso so much and thought he would be better than Neymar and set the world alight. Really disappointed he didn't make it
@pandaman1331
@pandaman1331 Жыл бұрын
These kind of videos are very interesting because very young people propably never even heard of Ganso. This ist mostly a retro trip for people who know him and thought he would become a star.
@tintinmilou9471
@tintinmilou9471 2 жыл бұрын
brilliant analysis, and the conclusion is harsh but not that harsh if you think about it, mayby Ganso isnt a waisted talent, he is just where he was meant to be, 99 percent of footballers will never reach that... everything else is overhyped nonsense
@matho1449
@matho1449 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always mate. I know, as you said, you'll do justice to a lack of brazilian videos, but an idea for the future maybe, a PSG video? Similar to the one you did about City or Bayern? Cheers mate, you're smashing it as always
@FootballIconic
@FootballIconic 2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate that, man! Oh yeah, planning a big one for PSG. But it might be a while haha
@lilbeast1029
@lilbeast1029 2 жыл бұрын
Not only ganso but many players with lots of potential were lost due to laziness. I have seen players at my age that had a great talent but they relied only to that because they always thought that talent was enough on it's own
@countryballs2005
@countryballs2005 2 жыл бұрын
Still remember this guy from FM11 dang nostalgic
@BrunoMontanhez
@BrunoMontanhez 2 жыл бұрын
As a Santos supporter from a family of Santos supporters (Dad always talks about getting a train to watch Pelé play) Ganso was great, even greater than Neymar for sometime. BUT, he was quite unstable: some huge matches followed by some hidding from the game, some would call he was "sleeping in the field". He had some injuries but I think that the worst enemy for PH Ganso was mental health. But he missed the chance to cativate São Paulo rivals when got there, but was spot on on pissing Santos. He was a great art piece in confection from 2008-2010... somewhere in 2011 it broke down and never was the same, or half of it, or even less than that. It was like he was changed with a twin, that could handle the ball well, but not near.
@cidadaopadrao
@cidadaopadrao 2 жыл бұрын
i cheer for Sao Paulo and was a pleasure to see him on for my favorite team on that 2016 Libertadores, he's such a genius
@pooripantra
@pooripantra 2 жыл бұрын
That imobile joke 😂😂 my man your videos are best football content on KZbin thank you for great videos
@thabangmawela5187
@thabangmawela5187 2 жыл бұрын
I remember this guy!!! he was on FIFA12 and was a highly rated prospect in career mode
@TK_Brainslug
@TK_Brainslug 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I never heard of him
@dan_iel_efs
@dan_iel_efs 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing them, Neymar and Ganso, back in 2010, for me was obvious who was going to go farther in career. Neymar had always more personality and "hunger of ball" (as we say in Brazil). Ok, Neymar has way too much of that personality, "they've grown a monster", but there's no comparison between them two. Ganso is currently in Fluminense and when his is up to play, is said "Fluminense is now playing with 10"
@rimanpele
@rimanpele 2 жыл бұрын
It wasnt laziness (also think its inappropriate to judge someone on that), he had a hard injury in his leg in 2010 and after that he never got to be the same.
@Culture2123
@Culture2123 2 жыл бұрын
From 2010 to 2014 milan were linked to this guy... I don’t miss you Adriano Galliani
@_DENZEL_
@_DENZEL_ 2 жыл бұрын
This video triggered a core memory
@AkeloAnderson
@AkeloAnderson 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly he’s been a favorite of mine, I personally blame the injuries.
@NostalgiNorden
@NostalgiNorden 2 жыл бұрын
Brasilians and laziness is a never ending story....
@TeamDazu
@TeamDazu 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not necessarily laziness. But Brazilians value healthy social life A LOT. Having fun and spending good times with family and friends is a priority. They love to party. They love life.
@kacchaca
@kacchaca 2 жыл бұрын
gotta tell, I'm a Ganso fan since he came to São Paulo, but gotta admit he was very flawed. Like everyone else is saying here, his knee injuries took a really big bite out of his talents and career, which were kinda outdated by that time. To me, Ganso has one of the most interesting brazilian player's careers to be examined, and a video like that just proves my theory right
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