How Lucid Gravity Is Kind Of Cybertruck Competition

[@austinterry2094]

I just want a stinkin minivan EV already. 8 seats, sliding doors, 150 cu ft cargo.

[@azizmarz]

That gravity is impressive

[@Area51-is6vg]

Lucid Gravity body looks like Dodge Hornet GT.

[@TecnamTwin]

@@Area51-is6vg So? Look at what it is and what it does. People are so superficial...

[@thejdgoodwin]

I have a 2023 Lucid Air Touring. Having a >400 mile range just lowers the stress level.

[@Guerreropowerr]

After seeing out of spec's video on the gravity, I'm sold

[@jakesiu7773]

Gravity in a heartbeat.

[@JohnGeorgeHill]

If you're in the business of selling vehicles, Elon Musk is writing the book how not to do it by alienating half of his potential customer base.

[@samkeino6810]

Excellent comparison. Great video!

[@andrewbowyer8546]

Don't forget the savings each year. Fuel, etc. Love the suv.

[@walkerdarin2003]

With the lucid having native NACS it is a compelling buy.

[@brandonn161]

IMO, Lucid has always built a better EV than Tesla. Only thing that holding it back is the charging network and the software. I still think Tesla leads in those 2 aspects.

[@alek1004]

And price obviously

[@brandonn161]

@alek1004 yes, I forgot about the price as well. If they can somehow make one that's in the same price range as the 3 and y, that'd be a crazy game changer

[@wisefull3210]

@@brandonn161 there currently loosing $100k+ per car so that's going to be a while xD

[@TecnamTwin]

You're forgetting the biggest reason Lucid sales have remained relatively low - MAINTENANCE. Lucid is better than Tesla because they're flying too close to the sun with uncorked motors, more expensive higher energy density batteries with smaller buffers, and literally everything optimized/engineered with basically cost-no-option. They're extremely expensive to repair and their service network is pitiful. Tesla on the other hand actually wants to mass produce their vehicles and make a profit while doing it. Despite that, the product is actually still really, really good. So far, nobody else on the planet is doing that Tesla is doing with only BYD coming close (*with strong Chinese government backing).

[@nguyep4]

Lucid able to use better materials and other premium in their cars, such as costlier electronics, suspension, etc. This is possible when the cost isn't the concern. Lucid competes with the already established brands, like Mercedes, BMW, Audi, etc. If Lucid could outlast them... would still have difficulty making profits. At over $95k+... market size is too small.

[@cory_aqua]

Lucid did a great job on this. This should have been the first product not the Air.

[@MiguelRPD]

PIF wanted a sedan first. Plus Lucid has learned a lot from the Air. The Gravity wouldn't be what it is today without it.

[@SmartMart1658]

Lucid Gravity 7 seat three row SUV with 450 miles of EPA range will sell well IMHO. According to Jason Cammisa - Carmudgeon podcast "Lucid is Tesla 2.0". Gravity has 100+ more miles than the Model X. Lucid Air is outselling the Model S.

[@CK-1000]

Ah, your channel is much more refreshing and pleasurable to watch since you’ve become more objective and fair towards Lucid (while still offering fair critiques), just like you do for Tesla.

[@ThomasPisz]

"... and you should all shut up." Instand Like.

[@tr0nd15c]

Grand Touring + buying my dream car in 2025 = #TeslaSucks! #LucidMotors #CompromiseNothing #ZeroDragCoefficient #BehindTheDesign #AutomotiveInnovation #RallyAgainstRangeAnxiety #Sapphire #BreathtakingBrilliance #Jawohl #Wunderbox #SeatMassage #SimplisticElegance #ElectricEfficiency #ZenithMetallicRed #FathomBlue #RJScarCringe #EveryMillimeterCounts #PeterRawlinson FTW!

[@zachreynolds9060]

I REAAAALLLLLYYYYY hope the Gravity does well!!! I want an EV badly but I LOATHE Musk and absolutely refuse to give him my hard-earned money! My hope is that Lucid releases a 5-seat crossover in the next few years so that I can absolutely avoid Tesla.

[@benmlee]

Could it be you loathe Elon because corporate media runs negative article on him every other day?

[@nikolaikostka7632]

Ioniq is probably the best non Tesla out there depending on your priorities

[@nytmare124]

Well, its your lucky day, Lucid said they are targeting a "midsize" SUV in 2026 to compete with the Model Y with a starting price of like 48k or something. I think rumor is they call it Lucid Earth or something. Look it up.

[@28blooddog]

Also, thanks for your work! I appreciate the passion towards the content \o/ xD

[@exploreoutthere6678]

You don;t need that range but it's nice to have. Also, it may give a faster charge time if you only need to charge from 5-10% to 50 or 60% (200+mi of range) if the charging curve is "normal" i.e higher at the begining through middle of the pack. This is based on the thinking that 450mi range is not needed and 250 - 300 miles of range is enough.

[@MiguelRPD]

Id say EVs will finally be good in the north if their range was at least 700miles. Even if you had a 50% cutoff due to freezing temperatures. 350 would be plenty to work with.

[@ggrepoman]

Good luck with your reality.

[@24marioalex]

That’s the reason I cancel my cygertruck order. I was expecting a 500 miles range, but not even close for the price they were asking.

[@darwinskeeper421]

I don't believe they are very similar at all. The Lucid Gravity seems to be designed as a serious family vehicle with a lot of thought given to how it owners will use it and what they want and need. The Cybertruck is more of a fashion statement on wheels larping as a truck. Most of the people who buy them wants something that they think will look cool. Depending on who you talk to it's either a piece of junk or something that works better than you'd think. I doubt it works as well as an F-150 Lightning, to say nothing of the Gravity.

[@FutureAzA]

I think you can compare them, and did a fine job of it. They're both big prestige vehicles. I'm concerned the market won't be as interested in Gravity as the specs might suggest, since Air looks great on paper without commensurate sales.

[@MrEBlokker]

You are totally right, In my case. We would love 4 kids and tow a big RV with an EV. So well need best in class range and 6 seats. I'm really sad the 6th seat in the Cybertruck is gone.

[@TecnamTwin]

@@MrEBlokker As well as the promised "500+ miles of range." Even with the bed battery that's still not available, the Church won't match the Lucid Gravity or Chevy Silverado EV with its >200 kWh battery pack. They really need to pump that range up. Just adding 15kWh to its pack would give it much more utility by giving a 300-mile real world range - a lot of people's personal minimum to buy an EV.

[@deepupillai9092]

Teslas range loss is insane.

[@riickyworld1]

I mean because it’s a pickup truck design. Pickup trucks are not very energy efficient by design. So the cybertruck was bound to not have good range compared to any car or SUVs like any other pickup trucks.

[@deepupillai9092]

@ model x owner here. With full charge you can do a 200 mile round trip.

[@TecnamTwin]

​@@deepupillai9092Sounds like a YOU problem. Other Model X owners are actually getting close to EPA.

[@TecnamTwin]

​@@deepupillai9092Well if you bought the 75kWh Model X, that range should be expected. If you have a 100kWh or newer long range model, that's definitely a YOU problem.

[@deepupillai9092]

@ looks like you know Model x than me, I have a 2023 x.

[@RealElectech]

The Gravity has some impressive numbers. I just cant get over it looking it looking like a minivan.

[@wulf0123]

I think you just explained why telo will be successful. Nobody is doing trucks, they’re doing open air suvs. I need to compare the cybertruck side by side with gravity. Because even on paper when it has better specs (like rated towing) real world has shown it takes a pretty big hit. Might have to find someone with a cybertruck once I get a gravity and compare everything but off-roading

[@Zeyek1]

how did you get audio track function

[@Miata822]

I see your point, but the main dividing point between the two is likely to be whether the buyer is a TSLA shareholder and Elon fan. I doubt that many people who were neither of those two things were buying Cybertruck after the first six months. Cybertruck is a novelty, a toy. Nothing wrong with being that, but no serious person should think of it as a pickup and it's a poor example of an SUV.

[@Abebe345]

$110K minivan will have an interesting market. The CT is a truck more capable than most if you're not towing long distance. CyberSUV probably will be a competitor. Musk has promised a 3 row SUV.

[@28blooddog]

I think most buyers of the Cybertruck are buying it to haul a fourwheeler. That's why i bought one and it works pretty great.

[@altosack]

Uh, no. They’re buying it as a large car, the same as most other trucks and large SUVs.

[@MrAndyb247]

No.................. I think most Cybertruck owners are buying because of FOMO.

[@rosetheblackcat]

Yep I saw someone using it to haul a trailer for their dirtbikes.

[@DaGoat97]

I get it but which one can carry your washer and dryer or fridge you just bought? My CT has come in handy on numerous occasions an SUV just wouldn't.

[@MarkSparks-xd9yy]

I got a used Bolt. It was similar enough to the Model 3 in range & I can drive myself at 1/3rd of the price. Sure I'd rather have the Tesla but not at the price difference.

[@Harrythehun]

Exactly, Price and value are two different things.

[@craigmerrow225]

I also recently bought a 2021 Bolt; it is just a bit larger than the 2012 Prius C I traded in toward it. I don't need or want a large vehicle!

[@pqubed.performances]

On that point of Rivian having much more success with the R1S over R1T. Telo, I really think that your target users of work vehicles in cities would use your van over pickup. Sliding doors are so much more practical with traffic, parked next to other cars, seat or gear access, etc. I think the flat nose will be more accepted as a van compared to trucks because we are just more used to it. I believe that people will be less concerned about towing (and therefore more easily impressed) whereas that is being a requirement for a pickup. Really consider fast tracking the van before the pickup.

[@Bradinnes]

I'm sorry.... this is apples and oranges.

[@Tazdeviloo7]

Aesthetically, yes they're different. For what most people actually use these vehicles for, very similar.

[@FutureAzA]

But you CAN compare apples and oranges.

[@Ridingforsanity]

I haven’t heard much about the chassis platform and the differences between the Air and Gravity. I just assumed due to cost of scale production the Gravity would use a lot of the Air’s architecture.

[@darcyk63]

Just the title of this video made me ship it

[@jessedaly7847]

Can’t tow a gooseneck in the Lucid

[@antoinepageau8336]

If I'm going to be kind to the Gravity, I'll say it reminds me of the R series from Mercedes (R350 R500) which I liked. If I'm going to be harsh, Chrysler Pacifica (ouch). Either way they won't sell many. It'll be interesting to see just how far the Saudis are willing to go with Lucid in the coming years.

[@LGBarnesIII]

Is a Ford Lightning with a camper shell a SUV too ?

[@riickyworld1]

Actually, yeah… that makes it a SUV at that point. With a larger closed storage space

[@LGBarnesIII]

@riickyworld1 a van? school bus? 1970s station wagon jacked up? A Sprinter? Box truck?

[@ruirodtube]

Cybertruck needs a lot of photoshop to look good. It’s also unreliable and dangerous. Also, it was supposed to be 40k, monocoque construction and 400 miles range… people got scammed hard!

[@patches8291]

Wrong expert

[@lancetruong4957]

neither is the Gravity. Every car is dangerous when drive with excessive speed.

[@nguyep4]

Spoken a lot of hate, for simply you don't like the look. Nothing is dangerous about it compared to other trucks. 400 miles is easily done with a bigger battery, but that isn't what they wanted to do.

[@ruirodtube]

@ the edges of the Cybertruck are razor sharp, a huge pedestrian hazard. The steering by wire that brakes is dangerously unacceptable. $39.900 will never come true. There’s no “exoskeleton” which is load bearing. The steel stains if you wash it and leave it under the sun. Cannot go 500 miles on a charge, as promised!!! The view towards the back is blocked if you close the bead cover… It’s just a bad electric vehicle.

[@ruirodtube]

@ oh, and most recently discovered, snow accumulates on a “bed” under the headlights that block them. The pedal cover that came loose and jammed on full throttle. This machine was designed and tested by second class engineers.

[@KineticEV]

There are some similarities. And while the CT is and can do truck stuff it's pretty much a people mover. I think they could continue to offer or retire the X and redesign the CT into a Cyber SUV or Cyber Overlander, raise the rear section to include a 3rd row "human size" seat area. It will shorten the back area but given its current length it will still have enough rear cargo area. The difference now is sales. As impressive as the Silverado EV, Sierra EV and the Lucid Gravity are on range over the CT the question is are these vehicles gonna sell enough to be profitable...even though the Silverado EV and Sierra are trucks that look like traditional trucks and the Gravity is a great SUV when it comes to range and specs. BUT WAIT...... It's also coming into the market competing with the EV9 and the upcoming Ioniq 9....and I think people and content creators will be doing a lot of comparisons between it and the Ioniq 9...

[@jackylsmith8138]

I thought from the get go that the CT was more of an SUV than a truck with the shape and the Vault.

[@artboymoy]

If I were to have 100K to throw away on a vehicle between the two, I'd go Lucid. Eff Musk.

[@sinoevc]

Wow, It's great😀

[@presentfuture1236]

I think narrowing it down to range and storage space is missing more key factors than there are similarities.

[@ozzy4654]

gravity is awesome, but a cyber SUV would be awesome.

[@andromedach]

and here I thought your idiocy had peaked with your simping of Aptera.... new achievement unlocked

[@mikesevgarage]

Can you compare them? Sure. You can compare anything to anything else. The big question is, how often will they seriously be cross-shopped. I’m sure it will happen, I just do not think it will happen that much. Time will tell.

[@KingofFlorida]

Make cyber truck affordable!

[@JEP-Tech]

They have similarities in that they are both expensive 4 door luxury vehicles for the rich. They serve different purposes but like most cars there is some overlap in demographics of their buyers. However, their functions are clearly different. The Cybertruck is an oversized sports car trying to be truck, while the Lucid Gravity is a luxury SUV. The Cybertruck is a far less practical show piece ment to attract attention to yourself that under delivered on its promises and has very cheap interior. The Lucid Gravity is far more practical, will not draw attention to yourself, is much more luxurious, and for the price is a far better value. Lower the price by more than half, replace the carpeted floors in the interior with an easier to clean rubberized material, and the Lucid Gravity would be a great family vehicle for the average person that would draw way more people into the EV market than the Cybertruck.

[@chrismercier311]

Actually the Cybertruck is a truck like it or not and not everybody buys one for attention but because they like the looks and functions of it.

[@eugeneputin1858]

Id pick the lucid IF it had xeroxed tesla software

[@ksoman953]

Came here for clickbait, but I guess I watched the whole thing....

[@walkerdarin2003]

The range extender really shit the bed (truck bed ohhh IMO). I like the idea but I don't know who is spending that much money on a little range (towing I'm guessing).

[@vickykennel7414]

Don’t insult Lucid by comparing to a piece of Junk

[@Abebe345]

This will compete w Mercedes and other luxury SUVs but a bit too minivan but probably good for range.

[@Retired.at.40.Bored.at.50]

An SUV needs 450 miles. The Cybertruck doesn't. They buy SUVs to carry people long distances comfortably. You don't take trucks on road trips unless it can't be avoided. The range extender is meant for trailers. Edge case that do warrant permanent battery extenders. Once V4 charges become ubiquitous. The extender will not be needed. Lucid has good tech. But, if they can't make it cheaper and sell the tech to other manufacturers. It's not going Stop them from losing money. Tesla could sell their castings, software, and powertrain to Ford and it would make Ford profitable right now. That's Tesla's advantage. 😅

[@UsAlbanianz]

That boxy cybertruck looks like funeral box to me lol Gravity sick but too much money for me

[@mitchellbarnow1709]

I wish that Tesla had gone the big SUV route and not the pickup truck route. I want all of my cargo and my groceries stored in a heated and air conditioned space. A pickup truck bed is not the place for your groceries from a big Costco run, in my opinion only.

[@anton_grahn]

Cybertruck still does not have Autopilot 😅

[@Ed-jg3ud]

If Lucid was really smart they would have gone for the exterior aesthetic that bourbons/tahoes have; there’s a reason why that style footprint is viewed as the premium full size suv in America. Even if that style, high clearance vehicle would mean a 280mile range- I still think it would be the way to go & viewed as an around town vehicle (not the road tripper). True first to market in that segment- no EV maker has yet reached it. Lucid’s efficiency could be argued as the only company that could have done it. Big miss. Mini-van vibes aren’t gonna sell to premium buyers on mass

[@michaellatta]

If only lucid licensed FSD, and got to volume production with the gravity.

[@altosack]

Of _course_ they can be compared. Most trucks and large SUVs are the new large cars, which don’t exist anymore.

[@diemes5463]

so you're just going to ignore the Model X?

[@khaledalhouli8816]

Gravity to be compered with Minivan

[@christopherbarrett9749]

Not sure I understand. Very different vehicles and even look very different. Aptera is also very different, and investors are shy about it only having 3 wheels, because of it being so different. Guessing sharing an electric power train is where they are similar, other than that, apple and orange. Personally, I'm old, and the Lucid is luxury that is attention getting, but I don't want either of these vehicles especially since they cost more than my first house by a factor of about 3x. My thoughts are Aptera is also very different, but affordable, fun, extremely efficient, and better choice for me. So my choice is Aptera by far, then if money was no object, Lucid, but I still can't wrap my head around a cyber truck.

[@didiermejia780]

CT is not a truck so fair comparison

[@nicosilva4750]

Maybe it isn't fair because one is beautiful and the other is the ugly child of a DeLorean.

[@dt2526]

Agreed lucid is ugly and boring.

[@nicosilva4750]

@@dt2526 I understand. When your still in training pants you don't know what a DeLorean is.

[@alexkumar7062]

Gravity is expensive i compare it to Honda odyssey or Toyota van - i am van lover from practicality point of view

[@whiteandnerdytuba]

Gravity is better in every way so the comparison is dumb for that reason. No Tesla competes with any lucid anyway, different product categories

[@andrewvercillo7584]

This is the dumbest title I’ve ever heard of. Cybertruck outperforms most diesel trucks. Not even close. The gravity doesn’t off-road

[@JEP-Tech]

Modern pickup trucks suck. Americans are just buying them as status symbols and never use them is trucks, just SUVs so the cabs are getting massive while the beds are so impractical, tiny, and useless. I think it's something like 50% of truck owners have never put anything in the truck bed. It's stupid. I want small cabs and big beds. Truck beds should be atleast 8 feet long if you regularly do construction projects.

[@andrewvercillo7584]

Why do these people loath Musk!? Ask yourself that question. You people make no sense.

[@28blooddog]

Or just sleep in the bed with an air mattress 🤔 under the stars. Thats how i roll and it works perfectly

[@TailosiveEV]

That ain’t car camping

[@kokenif]

And the high price, and Lucid being a horrible company, and Lucid losing money on every single car they produce.

[@costiqueR]

Have FSD? Nope? Adios...!

[@samirshah5411]

Gravity specs are solid however it looks like a minivan, I love my cyber beast

[@greggoryjohnson156]

Hey now! No need to hate on the Model X. It is not an old design and still a great seller for Tesla.

[@NightStalker83]

The Gravity is just a Mercedes-Benz R320 reimagined. How long can Lucid continue losing money on every vehicle sold?

[@rdk3996]

Cybertruck now cost way less. Promoting comparative competition is more applicable for vehicles that also cost about the same. And if both exist :)

[@Ed-jg3ud]

King of trolls

[@ien2023]

Looks like an old farts car.

[@v1c5an6]

Your videos used to be good until you became an "Elon Bad" person and got all emotional and pessimistic about everything Tesla. Fingerprints is all the "dirt" ;) you have on the Cybertruck!? C'mon, what's next, that it catches on fire? lol. It's all about price, you said it yourself. How much is the Gravity? That's right, too much. It's no match. Plus let's not forget that the Model Y is about to get refreshed and who knows maybe so will the Model X. The cybertruck is in a category of it's own. And of course there's FSD too but I won't get into that.

[@summertyme5748]

Elon did turn out to be an evil person though. He legit hid his fascist political leanings - and then revealed him to the shock and horror of those who supported him. I would compare him to Bill Cosby in that regard. Don't pretend like - everyone turned on him for no reason. The reason (s) are clear.

[@anonymous7egend]

Sound like a typical fanboy jeez

[@v1c5an6]

@@anonymous7egend100%

[@TopicSet]

This dude is annoying

[@anton_grahn]

I’m gonna say it: this is a stupid comparison 😂

[@Celestara]

One is profitable while the other loses money for every Car they sell

[@jrssamerwa21340]

15 years vs 3 years old ?

[@williampisano7573]

Lucid is way better !!!!! Like 110%. Might get profitable but if your reinvesting in new production and new vehicle that kills your profits lol 😂 new batteries 🔋 size cost money money 💰 ford is making small returns on there electric ⚡️ Car, truck but spent billions on the wrong battery 🪫 and is updating to new battery 🔋 and spent billions more ford said they will turn profit by 2027 new ev ranger that is larger the ranger but smaller the f-150. There is talks with catl for a cheap 300 mile sodium ion battery 🔋 and a larger lfp 400 miles ranger.

[@deepupillai9092]

Lol. Lucid is a young company and they have achieved lot in a short time frame. All Licid owners are super happy with the service. On the side Tesla range and service , Tesla squeeze every money out from you for a repair. Range loss is terrible

[@luisillas]

Company profitability won't make a car better.

[@Ahmed-ef3bg]

I’d rather buy a car from a company dedicated to engineering the best no matter the cost than one cutting corners.

[@sojourner4726]

To be fair, the cyber truck isn’t much of a truck.

[@chrismercier311]

To you.

[@jeffreybuckmaster4600]

I don’t consider Lucid being competition till they are profitable, which they will never be.

[@anonymous7egend]

Spoken like a true fanboy

[@jeffreybuckmaster4600]

@ Lucid was projecting to build 90,000 cars and be profitable by now. Now they are shooting for 9,000 and burning a ridiculous amount of cash. Peter Rawlinson is a fraudster milking the Saudi’s out of his personal mountain of cash.

[@jeffreybuckmaster4600]

@@anonymous7egendThey are failing miserably.

[@anonymous7egend]

@@jeffreybuckmaster4600 ok

[@patches8291]

Fake news