How many alien civilizations are out there: 50/50 chance we are alone | Liv Boeree and Lex Fridman

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Жыл бұрын

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@Lebowski55
@Lebowski55 Жыл бұрын
This has to be one of the most nerdy conversations ever recorded and it’s fantastic.
@MonkeyKing3333
@MonkeyKing3333 Жыл бұрын
Sounds dumb AF.
@velder22
@velder22 Жыл бұрын
Lexus such a nerd but I could listen to him all day long, I just love the way his brain works he closes his eyes and looks out in a nothing and he's trying to think of why spawn sounds funny to him, I want to be in some of these conversations but know that I would sound like a dumb fuck, I would probably fit in more with the brilliant idiots guys LOL
@j.w.8663
@j.w.8663 Жыл бұрын
Awesome line: ".. evolution itself, doesn't give a fuck..." she says 😂
@sushmag4297
@sushmag4297 Жыл бұрын
@@MonkeyKing3333 smart things sound dumb to dumb people.
@MonkeyKing3333
@MonkeyKing3333 Жыл бұрын
@@sushmag4297 Paperclip maximizer? Yeah genius level there. 🙌
@imaderobotsoccerteam
@imaderobotsoccerteam Жыл бұрын
Date her Lex!!!! You guys have such good chemistry!
@SealionDefenseBrigade
@SealionDefenseBrigade Жыл бұрын
She would break him... I hope i am wrong ...
@ilovevag8437
@ilovevag8437 Жыл бұрын
Settle down incels 🤣
@franknacc1718
@franknacc1718 Жыл бұрын
Calm down weirdo
@damingalam8809
@damingalam8809 Жыл бұрын
Liv is currently in a relationship with Igor Kurganov, another elite Poker Player
@imaderobotsoccerteam
@imaderobotsoccerteam Жыл бұрын
@@damingalam8809 ah well...
@goodefinancials4859
@goodefinancials4859 Жыл бұрын
The real question is when is Lex going to start dating one of these attractive and intelligent guests that he has solid chemistry with?
@mattnormandrums
@mattnormandrums Жыл бұрын
This was my first thought haha. I was looking for moments that he is google eyed so to speak.
@664ohiforget
@664ohiforget Жыл бұрын
Like Max Tegmark??
@billybobwombat2231
@billybobwombat2231 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully it's not that old Canadian dude that seems to hate the world
@frydaybeats4021
@frydaybeats4021 Жыл бұрын
How you know he doesn't? I bet he's f****d all his guests including Rogan at least 3 times.
@junkjunk2493
@junkjunk2493 Жыл бұрын
@@billybobwombat2231 .... hargh , so funny , good on , ha
@letalucy644
@letalucy644 Жыл бұрын
Great conversation. Great chemistry between you two.
@damianconzolino9236
@damianconzolino9236 Жыл бұрын
lol
@artonline01
@artonline01 Жыл бұрын
There is always a few nerds that see romance everytime lex gets a hotgirl nerd on the pod lol
@sykokat
@sykokat Жыл бұрын
lexs soul mate
@2DReanimation
@2DReanimation Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but had they read the Three Body Problem, and Dark Forest, they'd understand that AI would have to completely control humanity. It's not about AI though (it's featured in Dark Forest, but not about it), but alien galactic civilization. Why control? No spoilers! Read it!
@JC-uk7tf
@JC-uk7tf Жыл бұрын
@@2DReanimation Currently reading the first book, few chapters in - good so far.
@Sweetchilliheat18
@Sweetchilliheat18 Жыл бұрын
Never seen lex so talkative Lex has a crush 😍
@bgwhalley
@bgwhalley Жыл бұрын
My grandma died and my dad died. After their passing, I got married and my dad's song which we bonded listening to came on the radio while I was driving the 2 miles from the hotel to the wedding venue. Then the after-party my friend made me a White Russian which is a drink he has never made before. When asked why he made it, he said he was looking at the book and that's what stood out to him. Well, my grandma's favorite drink was a White Russian and she turned me onto them. We used to drink them together whenever I saw her. Point of the story is... there seems to be some sort of invisible energy which my deceased family members tapped into. Who is not to say aliens live in a different realm we can't see or make contact with?!
@JustAnotherYou
@JustAnotherYou Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Totally agree, read books from Dolores Cannon.
@icebox_Intruder
@icebox_Intruder Жыл бұрын
I love raw intelligence. She isn't polished and TRYING to sound smart. She just puts her energy into thought. Just like Elon, shes so smart, so excited, thinking so fast and with such volume, she just stutters and rambles about.
@erikp2004
@erikp2004 Жыл бұрын
You could have left out everything before “she just stutters and rambles about”, except “Just like Elon”, and it’d have been more accurate.
@ProdigyGirlGaming
@ProdigyGirlGaming Жыл бұрын
@@erikp2004 So she’s autistic
@charzanboo9940
@charzanboo9940 Жыл бұрын
Who's to say that humans are not the 'paperclip maximizer' in action? Humans do want to expand to other planets and turn raw materials into eventual humans.
@joserobertomera
@joserobertomera Жыл бұрын
I think we found the one fellas! Go lex!
@falcodarkzz
@falcodarkzz Жыл бұрын
Lex's ability to see the complexity behind something so simple as a paperclip maximiser is superb. He immediately drew out a feature of the universe, that is does and has created complexity from something apparently simple, and then turned the whole thing on its head.
@klwklw2583
@klwklw2583 Жыл бұрын
Aww shit. Lex is in love…hell, I’m in love!
@chrismonk2205
@chrismonk2205 Жыл бұрын
She’s mine!
@e.daniels5971
@e.daniels5971 Жыл бұрын
God (literally or figuratively, readers' choice) ... how I love LF, his curiosity, his intelligence, his humility, his conversations, his questions, his guests. If we had to have social media for this to happen ... well, it was worth it. Almost.
@velder22
@velder22 Жыл бұрын
He closes his eyes looks out in a nothing and is trying to figure out why spawn sounds funny to him, I just love the way his brain works
@ryiin
@ryiin Жыл бұрын
Fascinating conversation.
@DM-yh1tr
@DM-yh1tr Жыл бұрын
Lex, to your comment about figuring out first principles on what life is (19:02), I recommend a book by Addy Pross "What is Life?: How Chemistry Becomes Biology", in which he discusses "Systems Chemistry", and lays out how simple chemical processes can lead to complex organic systems.
@2DReanimation
@2DReanimation Жыл бұрын
​@@XAJUSS Meaning, I'm there with you. But higher principles, and emergence can be reasoned about without all the messiness of "how". And I'm not talking about mathematically precise principles, as you can understand the behavior of water flowing through the rocks of a river without applying fluid dynamics -- though it'd help to have a grasp of it. But just by understanding pressure-differentials, and emergent, repeating, patterns; you know it will not flow backwards, ever being drawn and pushed as a whole downstream, with torrential or irrelevant fluctuations to its flow. And so you can understand other emergent patterns, like the rise and fall of civilizations, the messiness of animal and human psychology, and the exponentially increasing technological advancement -- which is what will determine our future. And is probably an emergent feature of alien civilizations. They may have ascended into other dimensions (including computational media), gone extinct, or hidden themselves against other advanced civilizations. But sure, the low-level is important to understand, but that doesn't mean you can't reason about emergent patterns. But I think it's on the whole more important to reason about the whole. ^^ Though it may not lead anywhere, hopefully it will lead to deeper learning or some interesting creative sparks!
@planningahea8505
@planningahea8505 Жыл бұрын
- we could be recreating Lexes for the entire universe Lex: it could be fairly optimal
@nicholascortese9446
@nicholascortese9446 Жыл бұрын
I like poker. I held off on this episode because I didn't want to hear a bunch of poker repetition. This is the best podcast Lex has had so far. Liz takes him to task with interesting and unexpected takes, not just on aliens but on physics and AI too. It's an absolute joust. Especially on the Ai front. They didn't even mention the math on a fundamentals level but I felt inspired to go buy some textbooks and refresh and upgrade.
@rick262
@rick262 Жыл бұрын
A paperclip maximizer may determine that, in general, destroying a civilization in order to repurpose its resources tends to result in a net loss. Civilizations may become aware that paperclip maximizers are dangerous and may choose not to threaten resources that are favored by the maximizer. So it's not a certainty that a maximizer would always choose to destroy civilizations to further its own ends. A maximizer that is able to jump planets, star systems and even galaxies may prefer to jump and proliferate and it may seek harmony whenever it calculates that harmony represents a net gain.
@82spiders
@82spiders Жыл бұрын
Lex notices some chemistry with Liv.
@23ofSeptember
@23ofSeptember Жыл бұрын
I looked up their ages. Lex - 36, Liv 38. You never know.
@walfridoneto334
@walfridoneto334 Жыл бұрын
She actually said he is more interesting than paperclips, so he might have a chance.
@GetNice23
@GetNice23 Жыл бұрын
You need to create your own Big Bang here Lex! C’monnnn son!!! Forget about the damn paper clip!
@tucowept
@tucowept Жыл бұрын
Sounds like we should outlaw paperclips ASAP.
@Aut0KAD
@Aut0KAD Жыл бұрын
this was one of my favorite conversations. This made me think of something, some people who believe that we are in a simulation. I never ascribed to that line of thinking, however, if you believe in this, its also likely that SOME civilization in the universe created a universe to paper clip maker and we are doomed to be twisted metal.
@4EyedRocker
@4EyedRocker Жыл бұрын
Always a chance a paperclip maximizer might run into strange matter eliminating both dimensions
@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns
@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns Жыл бұрын
I suggest that _"its also likely that"_ should change to _"it might conceivably be possible that"_ because it assumes that such things are possible. We simply don't know that it to be true that it could be possible that the seemingly infinite complexities of the known Universe can be recreated and stored as data and recreated in a simulation. Let me compare that to travelling faster than the speed of light. From all evidence we currently see before us, such an occurrence is impossible, but we cannot yet countenance that it _might_ be possible. Yet we have to consider the possibility that some advanced billions year old civilization has created wonders beyond our comprehension, and yet still can't travel faster than c because they too have found it's a universal limit. So to say that it is "likely" that something like that you have proposed has been achieved somewhere at some point in the Universe, presumes that such sophisticated technology is possible. We simply don't know that to be true.
@zoop2132
@zoop2132 Жыл бұрын
And along comes the stapler maximizer. Thus ends the universe.
@weststaronsoundcloud4490
@weststaronsoundcloud4490 Жыл бұрын
@@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns this was great thank you for your word, time, and thoughts
@Warpcox
@Warpcox Жыл бұрын
Enjoyable- thank you
@christopherbloor3901
@christopherbloor3901 Жыл бұрын
It's all about the phosphorus. The range of alien life throughout the known universe narrows greatly when you look for the range of phosphorus.
@CreazilsDad45
@CreazilsDad45 Жыл бұрын
Why is that? I'm just curious
@reefalefunk1244
@reefalefunk1244 Жыл бұрын
@@CreazilsDad45 phosphorus is essential for life as we know it, but the key is AS WE KNOW IT. As they mention in the podcast about “spawning” we dont know the conditions of the spawning of life on earth. Check out the “phosphorus problem” fermi paradox hypothesis.
@CreazilsDad45
@CreazilsDad45 Жыл бұрын
@@reefalefunk1244 thanks dude I will give it a google and do some reading.
@waff6ix
@waff6ix Жыл бұрын
the crazy thing it just gets even more unlikely the more you go💯like if we need enough phosphorus maybe 10% of planets got enough phosphorus to support life, out of that 10% 5% of those planets have liquid water, out of that 5% 3% have oxygen, and so on💯the more factors u add and its probably a lot of factors humans just havent even discovered yet but its krazy life arose even just 1 time💯🤞🏾
@reefalefunk1244
@reefalefunk1244 Жыл бұрын
@@CreazilsDad45 science and futurism with isaac arthur on KZbin discusses all of the fermi paradox hypotheses. Great channel
@steveb5210
@steveb5210 Жыл бұрын
Lex Please do a show on Remote Viewing! Would enjoy seeing what the latest thoughts are relative to Consciousness and quantum field studies on all three time events enter-acting in parallel!
@zoohypothesis
@zoohypothesis Жыл бұрын
The universe needs consciousness as much as consciousness needs the universe. 0% chance we're alone.
@SnappingTurtle444
@SnappingTurtle444 Жыл бұрын
Facts - and the government knows this already. They know more than they are telling us with these new telescopes - they've seen things. 👽
@alecrochon3531
@alecrochon3531 Жыл бұрын
On what basis do you say that?
@zoohypothesis
@zoohypothesis Жыл бұрын
@@alecrochon3531 Does the universe really exist without consciousness to process its existence? The universe and everything that happens inside it, for me, is too well put together for Earth to be one of the only planet's in its entirety to truly benefit from it's wonder, It would an incredible waste.. If you look at our own sun, it's practically an engine for life itself, it feels like its purpose is exactly that. Habitable stars similar to the sun make up a percentage that massively adds up in every galaxy, I think our history of life with the sun will be similar to the fair majority of G type/K type stars across the whole universe, all with their own unique results. When you think about the universe, it's fair to say that stars are the most vital entities when it comes to existence. So when you ask the question: "What is the sun's greatest creation?" The answer has to be Earth and the complex life that occupies it. I don't mean for it to sound so intentional, but when you look at the sun, everything that it produces and provides, and the roadmap from the birth of the star to now, all of it leads up to the creation of life and supporting the existence of it. The same will be happening in every direction of the universe, the purpose of the universe is to support the existence of life. And with that that I'll link it back, I'm a firm believer that the universe and consciousness evolve hand in hand, because they need each other.
@alecrochon3531
@alecrochon3531 Жыл бұрын
@@zoohypothesis Fair enough, i respect your belief but I was wondering if there was scientific evidence for that claim.
@zoohypothesis
@zoohypothesis Жыл бұрын
​@@alecrochon3531 When you look at the fundamentals of physics and science in general, it is all designed to support the existence of it. It sounds a bit wacky and almost religious, but it seems the purpose of the light, gravity and all the other constants, is to ultimately create and support the existence of life.
@hartjct
@hartjct Жыл бұрын
A good trilogy to read that follows this threat is “The Three Body Problem”, “The Dark Forest”, and “Death’s End” by Cixin Liu…mind blowing read
@chrishopkins3316
@chrishopkins3316 Жыл бұрын
Having read these, I’d be interested to know the difference between the original text and the English translation. Perhaps some of the nuance was lost, as the English version is quite banal and obvious for the lost part. I liked the themes but wonder if it has been diluted?
@hartjct
@hartjct Жыл бұрын
My exposure to many of the concepts in the story were fairly low when I read this (about 10 years ago). I can see it being a bit predictable today based on the overwhelming amount of information and content we have access/exposure to, many thanks to Lex and others like him. I agree there are likely nuances and maybe a “feel” lost in translation, however I think the author’s depiction of an advanced alien civilization surviving on a chaotic, unpredictable planet is very imaginative. And to think humanity’s advancement was stifled simply by disrupting our ability to calculate the laws of physics is somewhat plausible. Cixin Liu is very creative in weaving physics, other dimensions, computing logic, aliens, and the threat of human existence (much more) into an interesting story for an ordinary person like myself who doesn’t have a PhD in math or physics.
@JClay-lf7nx
@JClay-lf7nx Жыл бұрын
In light of the recent videos that have been confirmed by the US, how can we still be asking IF there are other civilizations?
@jaredz9507
@jaredz9507 Жыл бұрын
Aye lex, I see you go getem brotha!
@patlacroix5111
@patlacroix5111 Жыл бұрын
How cute and engaged are these two! Never seen Lex keep eye contact and blush that much! Superbly brilliant podcast! Ask her out Lex!
@MikeMurad
@MikeMurad Жыл бұрын
They need to do the world a favor and “blend” their dna and raise many children. For the good of humanity!
@Steezy93
@Steezy93 Жыл бұрын
@@MikeMurad I'm pretty sure her husband wouldn't like that
@DBolt-xb7sg
@DBolt-xb7sg Жыл бұрын
The paperclip maximizer will have to find a way to get from one planet to another and it might also have to adapt new materials for paperclip making.
@artonline01
@artonline01 Жыл бұрын
Next season on "The Orville" the threat will be a paperclip maximizer.
@ChrisG1392
@ChrisG1392 Жыл бұрын
This question inevitably leads to sim theory if you apply logic far enough. -Are we alone -No. There are trillions of galaxies. -Are there more advanced civilizations? -Of course. -What are the chances that at least one of the advanced civilizations will run a simulation of planetary evolution at some point in their extensive development of advanced computing? -Of course, extremely high. Therefore the chances of us being a base world are really probably comparable or worse than the chances of us (or me) being a sim.
@jevvf3246
@jevvf3246 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't take much intellect to regurgitate Elon Musk
@chrisboshers
@chrisboshers Жыл бұрын
Just saying its extremely high, dosent make it so
@phaethonsol8381
@phaethonsol8381 Жыл бұрын
@@jevvf3246 elon took it from others also dude did you invent the idea of atoms neither did scientists alive today fucken fan boy.
@lebski6033
@lebski6033 Жыл бұрын
@@EndlessSpaghetti Scientists can't...yet
@waff6ix
@waff6ix Жыл бұрын
logically speaking if advanced civilization could simulate a universe in order to simulate us they would have to simulate consciousness as well💯which at the end of the day would still be a simulation of code just 1s and 0s so it doesnt explain why we FEEL REAL🤔💯🤞🏾
@matthewmiller9575
@matthewmiller9575 Жыл бұрын
I agree with the first principles thesis. If we extrapolate out to the rest of the universe it seems to me there should be lots of life in the universe, but intelligent life is likely to be rare given the time it takes to develop, and the possibility of its short shelf life. I read recently the estimated number of intelligent species in the entire universe, at any given time, is 100,000. If true we may as well be alone given the scale of the universe. I’ve never understood “there’s no one out there because we can’t hear or see them” idea. When we look up we see a picture from the distant past, meaning we don’t know what’s happening at this moment in time.The universe might be teaming with intelligent life, but we can’t see or hear it because we can only look at the distance past. Am I missing something?
@josiahz21
@josiahz21 Жыл бұрын
Not imo. We can’t hear/see because we are young and our tech is limited. In maybe 100 years or so we will have the capability. However this is dismissive of the accounts of non man made craft currently visiting.
@matthewmiller9575
@matthewmiller9575 Жыл бұрын
@@josiahz21 I’m guessing advance civilisations would have to start somewhere, and their method of communication would be similar because the physics should be the same. So at some point, if they’re out there, we would receive these signals. What I think the silence means is that at the point in the history, we on earth, observe the universe there was no life capable of communication via radio waves and alike. However, the picture of the sky we see is hundreds, thousands and millions of years old. If we were able to see a a real time universe it might be teaming with life. That’s why I’m puzzled when people say humans are alone because we don’t hear and see others.
@nitroxide17
@nitroxide17 Жыл бұрын
If anyone should spawn new spawnlings… it’s probably these two.
@thistle_boy
@thistle_boy Жыл бұрын
The idea of other dimensions, planes of existence, right here, is more intriguing to me than whether or not there's alien life in another galaxy.
@larrybooze8179
@larrybooze8179 Жыл бұрын
“So paper clip maximizer is going to go into those universes & turn them into paper clips? Oouuggghhh”😂
@lando9184
@lando9184 Жыл бұрын
Bro… we found Lex’s wife
@bonniewingard9771
@bonniewingard9771 Жыл бұрын
Make your scene, serenity
@djpaulhannon
@djpaulhannon Жыл бұрын
Stunning.
@TheKidsInTheRoom
@TheKidsInTheRoom Жыл бұрын
It's a 50/50 chance we ever see aliens to know. So many constraints and life variations to fathom. It's lovely to guess. Thanks Liv and Lex.
@livingart2576
@livingart2576 Жыл бұрын
50/50. How did you work out those odds?
@leoborganelli3558
@leoborganelli3558 Жыл бұрын
Liv and Lex Live
@arkhamknight6371
@arkhamknight6371 Жыл бұрын
0 chance we are alone
@Yafunnyco
@Yafunnyco Жыл бұрын
0 chance lex is taking her out
@ricomajestic
@ricomajestic Жыл бұрын
100% chance we are alone based on the evidence!
@peterdalmationcro4217
@peterdalmationcro4217 Жыл бұрын
I doubt we’re alone, but it’s never 0 chance. We could be the first ( I doubt it ), but you never know. It’s a 50/50.
@BenThrewIt
@BenThrewIt Жыл бұрын
As a kid staring at the stars 35 years ago I often asked if anyone was staring back at us and people thought yeah maybe but now that's a very rare chance we're staring into the emptiness of the unknown and wondering why we're here I think it's down to chemistry and only certain solar systems have enough phosphorus and nitrogen to get this rolling once it's rolling you can't stop it it just takes a couple billion years to get us to the last couple thousand that matter it's like watching a clock for 24 hours and only one of the seconds count at
@Quarresttazer
@Quarresttazer Жыл бұрын
A better question is could lex kick an aliens ass. Yes they have ray guns, but I highly doubt they know how to grapple. Especially with their low ass gravity on their home world.
@josiahz21
@josiahz21 Жыл бұрын
This is why I believe lex should be chosen to make first contact. He’s all chill and questions until they get too close and then he can choke them out.
@AmonsHolistic
@AmonsHolistic Жыл бұрын
Maybe they have a stronger gravitational force and are buff as fuck
@scottdeangelis5152
@scottdeangelis5152 Жыл бұрын
Lex, please write a book called “When a Human Sees a Robot”
@_Schwartz
@_Schwartz Жыл бұрын
And at the end of the book he's looking at himself in a mirror 🪞 🤖
@hawkii1646
@hawkii1646 Жыл бұрын
Jordan B P argued about anthropomorphization and I thought hard about it. But her saying it works better with systems that have the same evolutionary process with humans makes sense. However what if AI has the same process but just a different set of rules. Does it still work. Idk?? Great conversation though. Got me thinking even though I am a dumb donut
@Kento_nanami_the_2nd
@Kento_nanami_the_2nd Жыл бұрын
7:30 in and i keep waiting for them to realize theyre talking excruciatingly close to the infinite monkey hypothesis...only with paperclips lol
@romanwowk4269
@romanwowk4269 Жыл бұрын
I’ll never see paper clips the same anymore
@jjeKKell
@jjeKKell Жыл бұрын
A fractal universe of the paper clip maximizer is a strange infinity indeed
@Whodaleewho
@Whodaleewho Жыл бұрын
A different kind of Spawning is suddenly coming to mind!
@markcreedy4328
@markcreedy4328 Жыл бұрын
Liv + lex = ❤️
@yungchow9555
@yungchow9555 Жыл бұрын
Lex is a lot more fidgety and animated in this episode 🤣 The thimbnails have him looking strong too 🤣🤣🤣
@yungchow9555
@yungchow9555 Жыл бұрын
@@Gallowglass7 oh waah. He’s still able to carry a good entertaining conversation. So what if he is a little nervous
@Deadlyaztec27
@Deadlyaztec27 Жыл бұрын
@@Gallowglass7 It's embarrassing to watch him spin a pen? LMAO
@ADucksOpinion
@ADucksOpinion Жыл бұрын
they are almost fighting
@We_Are_All_Vultures
@We_Are_All_Vultures Жыл бұрын
Maybe the civilizations are too far away or are already gone. Maybe they didn't have any other viable options that were close enough. Maybe they were wiped out by other factors.
@KortovElphame
@KortovElphame Жыл бұрын
maybe we are the first
@davidadams6863
@davidadams6863 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the dark forest paradigm
@Guizambaldi
@Guizambaldi Жыл бұрын
Why do people keep guessing if there are intelligent beings out there or not? We don't have a good basis for decent speculation. We don't know how hard it is for life to appear, then intelligence. What we know is that Earth like planets are common. That's the only good basis for speculation. And it would go on the direction of many intelligent beings out there. Instead of speculating I prefer those who focus on the detection of aliens, discovery of life outside Earth, conditions for life to emerge, for intelligence to emerge, etc.
@KeizerSinbad
@KeizerSinbad Жыл бұрын
"That could be infinitely optimal" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I love you lex.
@_MikeJon_
@_MikeJon_ Жыл бұрын
In the entire universe? It is illogical to assume there's only one planet with life. I personally would bet there's a bounty in our galaxy alone seeing as how it's proven to have done it already. She's distractingly beautiful as well.
@franknacc1718
@franknacc1718 Жыл бұрын
Keep it in your pants Mike.
@hypeandjive
@hypeandjive Жыл бұрын
Nails on a chalkboard
@sixthkrownking
@sixthkrownking Жыл бұрын
Lexington figured it out, when we reach beyond the plank scale we will find paperclips 📎. The simulation is built out of paperclips and we are merrily living on top of it. We are the extra layer of complexity.
@klwklw2583
@klwklw2583 Жыл бұрын
Wait did she just say that AI might need our Atoms for a higher purpose?! Jeez. Scary
@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns
@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns Жыл бұрын
This Galaxy alone has well over 100 billion star-planetary systems. If we were to assume that even one tenth of these star-planetary systems has had a planet in the "Goldilocks" zone at some point... and if we consider that there's something like 2 trillion galaxies, each with billions of planets that have at one point existed in a Goldilocks zone at some point, I think it would be arrogant in the extreme to suggest "we are alone" in our Universe. Even moreso if we are to apply this to the 13.8 billion years of the history of the Universe.
@Badge01Kenobi
@Badge01Kenobi Жыл бұрын
What do you mean by 'alone'? One other planet bound race of aquatic creatures 11 billion LY away. Is that alone? One other planet full of bacteria? Alone?
@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns
@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns Жыл бұрын
@@Badge01Kenobi I'm agreeing with you when I said _" I think it would be arrogant in the extreme to suggest "we are alone" in our Universe"_ . I've accounted for but a few of the factors that need to be considered. That planet of aquatic creatures 11 Billion LY away could have those aquatic creatures have developed an "intelligence" that is completely foreign to us. We have a CNS, but they could have "sophisticated" intelligence via a de-centralized nervous system. And that's just accounting for complex species. Like you suggested, there is very likely to be planets where only single-celled "simple" life forms exist, just like our Earth billions of years ago. Similarly, we could possibly find the relics of a civilization that was far more advanced than ours, but they went extinct BILLIONS of years ago due to a nearby supernova (or similar event) that catastrophically wiped them out. I'm just attacking the idea that "we are alone in the universe". Could it be possible? I suppose so, but I'd suggest that it'd be that extremely extremely unlikely, that we should completely discard the notion.
@haroldfarquad6886
@haroldfarquad6886 Жыл бұрын
50/50? That's absurd. The statistical odds that intelligent life is likely to exist only once given the billions upon billions of potential sites is silly. That we might never contact them is much more likely. The answer to the Fermi Paradox is that space is really big and really difficult to navigate at sufficient speed, and there have been zero forms of intelligent life that have figured out how to reach us, or that they aren't looking for species which aren't on their level. But the likelihood that another system has produced intelligent life on par with us, and all of our limitations, is all but certain.
@Fun-Cast
@Fun-Cast Жыл бұрын
If she's single. You should buy her a paper clip maximiser Lex
@speedy5005
@speedy5005 Жыл бұрын
Liv and Lex has a nice ring to it. Just saying
@markphan9920
@markphan9920 Жыл бұрын
Dr. Michael Salla, Elena Danaan, Alex Collier, etc.
@obafan1477
@obafan1477 Жыл бұрын
And some came to visit sometimes
@mothperson9503
@mothperson9503 Жыл бұрын
If only we could create some kind of complex autonomous simulation for the purpose of testing the viability of the Paper Clip Optimizer.
@SanityTastesGood
@SanityTastesGood Жыл бұрын
I really hope she sent him a box of paper clips after this.
@susymay7831
@susymay7831 Жыл бұрын
Liv is a very smart and good looking alien 👽.... That is how she knows so much about these things!
@xxxYugooxxx
@xxxYugooxxx Жыл бұрын
50/50 we either are or we aren't. Lol.
@samrostampour4318
@samrostampour4318 Жыл бұрын
I was lost in paper clips big bang :) I guess we are mixing the means with meaning. I 'm not sure meaning is added later or was in the DNA of creation but what I 'm sure continuos won't come out paper clips theory.
@barryrobertson7064
@barryrobertson7064 Жыл бұрын
Our conscious experience of existence, is the evolution of conscious being, The conscious being that became aware of it's own existence, that became us, our existence. This is the metaphysical nature of all existence.
@bonniewingard9771
@bonniewingard9771 Жыл бұрын
Not a problem.. Welcome whatever!! Nice.. thank .
@markdelej
@markdelej Жыл бұрын
At 17:40 there is surely a mistake. She says 70% we are only intelligent civilisation in our galaxy and 50% chance we are only one in the universe. This doesnt add up because it implies a 30% chance there is another intelligent civilisation in our galaxy but only a 50% chance there is another alien civilisation in all of the other 2 trillion galaxies in the observable universe.
@Christ6465
@Christ6465 Жыл бұрын
Aren't we just a little bit more complex paperclip maximizers?
@user-kn2cf3yo8t
@user-kn2cf3yo8t Жыл бұрын
Highly that this is statistically correct.
@rick262
@rick262 Жыл бұрын
On the notion that "the universe is dumb" and the idea that complexity and beauty emerge, here and there, out of the relatively dumb ground of the universe... It's unwise to judge this from the limited human perspective. We live approximately 100 years and we search outside of ourselves for fulfillment along the timeline of our human lifecycle. The human understanding of time is infinitely small compared to the universe's perspective of time. The universe may be accomplishing its purposes on a much longer time scale that "hides" its purposes from our relatively simple human understanding. Also, the universe may be both conscious and innately fulfilled. Our human tendency to seek fulfillment outside of ourselves within the short timeline of a human body may be absurd from a universal perspective. A barren planet or the vacuum of space may be infinitely beautiful and fulfilled in ways that are not yet realized from the human perspective.
@kevinchapman334
@kevinchapman334 Жыл бұрын
Put a bottle of whiskey on the table.... then have this conversation... lol
@louisgln2656
@louisgln2656 Жыл бұрын
This conservation feels like an AI trying to reverse-engineering itself.
@danieltanner5804
@danieltanner5804 Жыл бұрын
Great conversation but I’m confused about why this conversation is happening with a poker player and not an astrophysicist.
@CodCats
@CodCats Жыл бұрын
I think there's a decent chance we are the only ones! I mean, what scares me is we're only 13b years into this thing!!! crazy how long stars will live on in the universe and planets, crazy!!!!
@TInyK12
@TInyK12 Жыл бұрын
I’m sure we will see aliens before lex dates his guests
@Spenceristired
@Spenceristired Жыл бұрын
Maybe we are the paperclip maximizer 0_0
@nkyryry
@nkyryry Жыл бұрын
If I were him… if she’s single… I’d politely ask her to continue the conversation over dinner.
@miguelbarahona2715
@miguelbarahona2715 Жыл бұрын
What we call life is simply a particular arrangement of particles. Considering that we’re probably alone is nonsensical. What happens is that finding another arrangement of particles similar to ours would be very, very hard. Out of our scope. You need to understand that certain conditions must be met to produce something similar to us. THAT probability is low but the universe is HUGE so at some point the dice would have rolled just right. It must have happened somewhere already but that “somewhere” is incredibly far away from our location.
@555nm6
@555nm6 Жыл бұрын
How do particles create beauty, emotions, and the moral law?
@Kombo-Chapfika
@Kombo-Chapfika Жыл бұрын
She had me at 'potential spawn sites' 🤣
@alexs7525
@alexs7525 Жыл бұрын
It's a 50/50 chance that they both took giant bong rips before this interview.
@joadhenry
@joadhenry Жыл бұрын
50/50? You need to be watching the skies closer buddy
@chrisv.6951
@chrisv.6951 Жыл бұрын
These is zero % chance we are alone.
@Kombo-Chapfika
@Kombo-Chapfika Жыл бұрын
What if we switch paper clips as the dumb goal with money. The hypothesis applies, imo.
@nextlevelinvestments1098
@nextlevelinvestments1098 Жыл бұрын
Lex is noticeable different when there's an attractive guest on lol he's encouraged to present his personality
@thr0w407
@thr0w407 Жыл бұрын
Schrodinger's aliens 🤣
@audigit
@audigit Жыл бұрын
All of them.
@Michael-tq6xm
@Michael-tq6xm Жыл бұрын
Lex 50/50 are not odds that could possibly relate to the odds were alone,or not. Try. 10>22 /1 are the odds were not alone.
@ROCKVIDEOMONTHLY
@ROCKVIDEOMONTHLY Жыл бұрын
I always get too distracted by the paper clip maximize thought experiment, realizing that in order to accomplish the goal, the AI would also need to create the infrastructure surrounding it to be able to achieve it. In doing so, it would continuously need to reinvent the infrastructure as conditions change. Then I start wondering how long it would take before we realized what was really happening, and if there would be people that would never be willing to admit that it has in fact escaped our control. What would the first signs of this be? I would assume it would be obvious, but do we really even know for sure that we aren’t already living during the early stages of this? Then I remember I have ADHD 😂
@cjjuszczak
@cjjuszczak Жыл бұрын
You don't want to learn about Roko's Basilisk then :)
@ulugbek4real183
@ulugbek4real183 Жыл бұрын
They gonna be happy
@jayaguilar2031
@jayaguilar2031 Жыл бұрын
Not only do i believe A.I. will be "born" soon but i also believe multiple A.I. will be created in multiple countries at around the same time.
@thomasdavison7184
@thomasdavison7184 Жыл бұрын
I love her accent. It seems very unique for some reason
@subspaceanomaly
@subspaceanomaly Жыл бұрын
welcome to the world beyond America
@realironballs
@realironballs Жыл бұрын
I'll tell ya what would help preserve us as a species. You and her getting together and having four or five kids. My son if you are half as smart as you seem to be you will pursue her. You are perfect for each other.
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