How Many Levels in Sonic Forces Can Be Completed without the Analog Stick?

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0:00 Intro Yapping
1:47 The Meat n Potatoes
24:12 The Side Dish
30:17 Results + Outro
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[@mawdewile]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHnKaKBmj9-ZbdE I made an oopsie. Turns out, Imperial Tower is actually possible without the analog stick. My bad y’all. The link above will take you to a video made by @FireSonic225 trying out this challenge. In a completely radical sequence of events, they were able to complete that level. That brings the total to 23/46, so now 50% of this game is beatable without the analog stick.

[@FireSonic225]

Half of the game... half of the game is completable... dear god

[@bIobwastaken]

Damm uuh 50% is uhm wow

[@GlitchOnePlus]

Oh dear god he’s in the walls he’s in the god damn walls SEGA: what if we made a game with a story about war and have concept art that looks like the game would be promising but then change every thing later before the release slap on some paint that looks like it’s being stretched throw the Nintendo switch controller in there for the Nintendo switch users and have classic sonic be there for absolutely no god dang reason…

[@heroessquad2019]

"If it's not 100% accurate, it is 50% accurate" -MandJTV

[@Ganonussyszestygorillagrip]

​@@heroessquad2019That's too true💀💀💀

[@TheStormsChannel]

If Sonic started with a full boost gauge then most of his stages could've been completed, adding up to much more than 48%

[@supersmily5811]

Which is interesting because if I recall correctly, most other boost games start you with either full or one gauge (In the what, one game that has multiple gauges?).

[@englishgiraffe2124]

​@@supersmily5811Only Generations, the Rush trilogy and Frontiers puts you with a full gauge. Unleashed you need a couple of rings and for Colours you need a Wisp capsule

[@bobbovine]

​​​@@supersmily5811I believe that is UnWiished

[@TheStormsChannel]

@@bobbovine Both versions of Unleashed started with an empty gauge. However on the wii/ps2 versions pressing the boost button as soon as the text said go you'd get a free boost.

[@lpfan4491]

Unwiished is still peak boost gameplay, can't change my mind. Still sucks that people spread the myth that the Wii version has no good controlmethod because Classic Controller is literally right there.

[@Zinkolo]

I like how before frontiers, Sega absolutely INSISTED on having as little modern Sonic gameplay as possible in his own games. Except lost world ironically

[@shadowsnake5133]

What's funny is that the classic sonic stages would be possible if you carried any momentum like mania. But no, they can't even make it carry any momentum in the slightest.

[@boltlight1244]

I love how he gives us instructions on each level as if any of us will be insane enough to want to do this ever. Lol

[@Kompressor808]

For me, he made forces actually sound fun

[@c-domination]

I think its like in math where you have to explain every step, otherwise the teacher doesnt accept it.

[@neonjm8289]

I love how every level that's impossible here isn't because the game is intricate or whatever, but because you need to hold forward slightly before you can go back to beating it with ine hand lol.

[@UNALLOYEDSLOP]

“Beating it with one hand”?? 🤨

[@contheman7473]

This video is longer than it usually takes to beat Forces while playing normally

[@t-bird6853]

No, because it takes just long enough so you can't get a refund on Steam

[@myleswelnetz6700]

It’s usually short and sweet.

[@emperortoho]

@@t-bird6853you can refund a game within 2 hours of playing it, speedrun world record is 53 minutes, it should be possible

[@Nister.N]

NAAAAAH YOURE EVIL BRO 💀💀💀

[@coleminer8847]

but every level takes more than a minute And theres 30 required

[@SirPanikalot778]

15:00 - buddy, you can't just include the greatest mashup that has ever graced human hearing and NOT post a full version.

[@mawdewile]

I do apologize. I’m not skilled enough to make the full version sound good

[@onehitwonders7729]

@@mawdewileWhat the name of the other song that isnt fist bump? I need to know

[@magicmasterplayer]

@@onehitwonders7729he DK Rap the intro music from Donkey Kong 64 a Nintendo 64 game

[@onehitwonders7729]

@@magicmasterplayer thank you bro. I could had assumed since i love DK 64 speedrun but i wanted confirmation.

[@fishactivation5087]

And then there's Chunky, he's dead.

[@evilpico2642]

Fun fact you can move sonic in 3D using the d-pad

[@jazzygawera1310]

I can’t use the idk for forces it feels weird so I only use the d-pad

[@HAXRLITSXY]

thats kinda cheating tho.

[@irishuisman1450]

I mean Mawde did say they're not using the d-pad

[@yeeoof1995]

@@irishuisman1450 nothing mentioned about adapting the power glove

[@irishuisman1450]

@@yeeoof1995 what? I'm genuinely confused, what do you mean?

[@scorpiouskrimson]

The Sonic Sez bit actually put a smile on my face, very sweet lil' detail.

[@mawdewile]

I’m glad you liked it. It’s was my favorite part to edit :)

[@acetorthewarriord8018]

Playing Sonic forces with one hand feels like playing an oddly high quality mobile game, not a modern console game with an added challenge.

[@cryguy0000]

It's a console port of Sonic Run!

[@delta3244]

11:30 I thought "equippted" was a bit in that video. This sequence gave me a laugh, thank you. (fwiw, I cannot say I've never done the same. "Hyperbole" is a tough word to pronounce from writing, "timbre" is bizzare, and while I can't remember them, I'm pretty sure there were a few relatively ordinary words I had wrong for a while)

[@Scrap_]

My Grandma made the best deviled eggs I absolutely have a memory of playing Sonic Heroes while waiting for those eggs, absolutely amazing eggs, I really hope you enjoyed those deviled eggs after you finished recording!

[@zendpixie]

Sonic Forces, but the Rookie, Sonic, and the other Sonic lost half their motor functions in a tragic accident

[@Apotheosister]

I wonder how much more stages would be cleared if it was something like "Hold foward only" challenge.

[@keelanbarron928]

Technically, all of the 2d areas and levels would then be impossible since you can't go forward in those.

[@acedelta12]

@@keelanbarron928 Wrong. The 2D areas would consider the right to be forward.

[@keelanbarron928]

@acedelta1259 except it would be the "hold right only" challenge, which wouldn't work for 3d. (The challenge has to apply to both equally)

[@ninjafrog6966]

@@keelanbarron928semantics

[@melikescereals]

me being kidnapped but the surface is slightly elevated:

[@manixyz]

I've done this before lol. In Mortar Canyon, at the beginning, if you spam the Slide button rather than holding it down, you get more distance! I didn't know the quickstep would work too!

[@mawdewile]

I just tried this out for myself, why does that just work???

[@BroeyBroe]

​@@mawdewileif you time it right, you can actually do this for lost valley too.

[@FireSonic225]

Damn, I remember trying this and just leaving it as a wip... glad someone made it tho Edit: There are some tricks that weren't shown in this vid. Here's what I've learned while trying the challenge out myself... 1. Slide is a godsent. If you spam slide as either modern sonic or the avatar, you'll keep sliding since the initial slide gives a boost of speed 2. You can complete prison hall without any upgrades. The slide works just fine, especially if you use the slide trick 3. You can actually get through the lazer section of the pyramid with keen use of dashing down. It's tricky, but gives many a style point 4. Sunset heights does have a slide trick. Sidestep on the edge on and off of it, and your position will be misaligned slightly, leading to a slide. Sadly, it's impossible due to a spring that changes your direction, and is unable to bypass it 5. Once again, slide spamming works here too in the avatar level before the infinite boss fight 6. Cube wisp shreds infinite, and he usually stays in the center of the screen. If he moves, find a hire able avatar with either drill or lazer to deal long range damage and close in for cube 7. Imperial tower is actually possible, you need to use a drill and lazer wispon, and good use of their wisp powers all throughout the level 8. Sonics last level should be able to be cleared at the start with slide as well, but didn't know sidestep worked as well 9. The final boss, especially the avatar, it worked for me with i think drill and either burst or hover. This was a huge pain to beat, but it worked well. Just get towards the back, and repell projectiles with hover, using drill to move. 10. That avatar trick to turn around is something I only found by accident. It usually ruined a run instead of helping tho. That was about all I found. I hope this challenge was ok on your sanity, cus I know for me I never wanted to even touch forces after this

[@mawdewile]

Hol up, Imperial Tower is possible?? Damn. How foolish of me. Would it be too much to ask for you to make a quick video of that? I’ll make a pinned comment with a link to said video so other can see it

[@FireSonic225]

@@mawdewile i have a vid of it, just haven't posted it. I think it took me an hour to figure it out

[@SonicBalance]

​@@FireSonic225W

[@mawdewile]

Thank you chief 👍

[@FireSonic225]

@@mawdewile Video has been made

[@33pandagamer]

My first playthrough of this game I did a boostless run, turns out this game is about 99% beatable without boosting. The only part that requires boosting is the last segment of the final boss. (Just to clarify, I didn't count double boosts as boosting since the game does them itself without my input. That being said, the triple boost dose count since not spamming the boost button results in death.)

[@Capoodle]

As one of five people who enjoyed this game (im a sucker for character creation), this was a delight. Also congrats on the job!

[@isenokami7810]

I would not count myself as one of those five people who liked Forces, but a part of me wants to be. There are some good ideas here, they’re just wasted on this game. The avatar is my prime example. Character creation aspect aside, they were my favorite character to play as: maybe not that different from modern Sonic, but all the differences that were there had potential. The wispons were…kinda broken honestly, but open the gate for a mashup of Sonic speed and spectacle fighter, kinda like what the Spark the Electric Jester games tried to do. The grappling hook, while mostly just a homing attack substitute and otherwise automatic, would fit in great with that. Sure, these are just my own wishes, but they’re proof of potential in the avatar’s kit that wasn’t realized in Forces, and yet having those tools in the first place still made them the most fun to me. The squandered idea thing goes beyond wishful thinking, too. Still mainly with the avatar, a few stages seemed super cool, still kinda fun to play through, but just didn’t get their chance to shine with the tiny stage lengths. Aqua Road is my prime example: a fun little water ride to some nice music (yes I kinda like the OC stage music) in Forces, but it could’ve been so much more as a longer and more realized level, a maze of water slides where risking your life and launching yourself off to another segment is often rewarded. Prison Hall’s also on there for cool factor, though in that case it might actually be just the right length. And while many might see it as a negative, I enjoyed how the likes of Arsenal Pyramid utilized the wisps: maybe it’s a bit much for lightning to let you skip the entire back half, but I very much enjoyed the idea of getting access to new routes depending on what Wispon you bring in and thus what wisp type is active. I still can’t like this game fully: it’s short, it’s dumb, and the title character is either a nothing burger as modern or terrible as classic. And yet I still find myself liking almost everything about the avatar and wishing they were in a better game.

[@Capoodle]

@@isenokami7810 That's a whole lotta words I ain't gonna read.

[@robertlupa8273]

@@Capoodle Shame, but I'll summerise it for you: _"The Avatar is a really cool take on the basic Sonic gameplay (even if the Wispons are bit on the broken side), but the levels are too short to be fun, even if their concepts are awesome. Also the music in Avatar's stages is fantastic [which I agree with by the way - Virtual Enemies my beloved

[@Capoodle]

@@robertlupa8273 Uh, thanks for the summary I didn't ask for? If you were thinking this was gonna change my mind .. it's not l.

[@robertlupa8273]

@@Capoodle Wow, uh, that was quite ungrateful if you ask me, but sure. Some people are like that.

[@charlesinatortheponyfeatur224]

I guess you can say that sonic FORCES you to use the analog stick I'll see myself out

[@charlesinatortheponyfeatur224]

It is kinda dissappinting there isn't a whole lot of neat things for sonic forces. But on the upside since you can emulate DS games, you can play Henry hatsworth, so ig that makes up for it

[@charlesinatortheponyfeatur224]

Anyways, great video as always, can't wait to see your next challenge

[@isenokami7810]

Fun story with me and Forces: it kind of sprouted the seeds for my main OC Ise (in my profile pic). First time around, I kinda just wanted to make Persona 5 Morgana, but for some reason decided against it and just made his fur green instead…only to unlock the Joker outfit after the first couple stages. Little guy didn’t mean much to me on that run, but fast forward a bit to when I was thinking of making a sona, and the fur color and fashion sense popped back into my head. Well, with some design changes to the coat of course: issues with just taking Joker’s aside, I wanted him to have his own style. A bit later, I made another run of Forces; with Ise now a fully realized OC, I went into avatar creation with his current form in mind. Couldn’t really make him exactly, but I was pretty happy with the outfit I ended up with. Funnily enough, he still wore the Joker coat the second time around, just because it’s the one trench coat in the entire wardrobe. Go figure.

[@littlemoth4956]

Wait, you mean the recolor of that cat character from MLP?

[@isenokami7810]

@@littlemoth4956 Yeah, I can see how he’d look like it at first glance, especially in such a small window. I’ll admit to seeing the MLP Movie at the same time, and Capper being another inspiration for the physical design. However, he was never meant to be a straight recolor. Similar due to being the same species, but the smaller details are pretty much all completely different. Though…yeah, just from the tiny KZbin profile pic resolution, it’s practically impossible to pick up any details on that coat, but trust me, the design is different from Capper’s or Joker’s.

[@anotheryoutubeaccount5259]

​@@isenokami7810 Very cool

[@myleswelnetz6700]

It’s like the button controls for Super Mario 64 DS.

[@artey6671]

32:47 I'm looking forward to that. I still play Sonic Battle sometimes. It's the biggest grindfest imaginable, but it's a somewhat essential part of my life now.

[@calemr]

Someone else who played Sonic Battle!? I loved that game.

[@artey6671]

@@calemr You loved it or you love it? I'm still trying to get all ultra skills, but it's tough.

[@calemr]

@@artey6671 It's been years since I played it. Yeah, 100% cards is something I never even got close to. I just saw what I got as I went through story mode and tried out combinations, unlocked Chaos, got the Super Combos, repeated each mission for the secret Gerald logs, then did a bunch of runs of the Tails lab challenge until I got bored. I did small amounts of grinding, like, 2 or 3 fights every chapter or two just to get some extra cards. But not much.

[@artey6671]

@@calemr Grinding in this game is not particularly fun, but I kind of force me to do it every now and then. The thing is, the ultra skills are nothing compared to the ??? skills. I have almost all ultra skills, but only 2 ??? skills. They are almost impossible to get.

[@isenokami7810]

“It’s the biggest grindfest imaginable.” I’m in.

[@graptakular]

Congrats on graduating & finding work. Always glad when a new video comes out, and thank you for doing all the things I could never attempt ever.

[@foxx64]

I truely appreciate the amount of work that went into this video. I woulda given up after level 2 lol

[@t-bird6853]

Can't wait to see what neat things you found in Sonic Forces!

[@Soldaraku]

Mawde actually made Sonic Forces entertaining, something I thought was impossible. Me: "One of the best parts of Mawde videos is the follow up "Neat Things" video. Can't wait to see what was found in-" Mawde: "There will not be a "Neat Things I found" Video for Sonic Forces." Me: "... ... ...Why are we still here? Just to suffer?"

[@mawdewile]

I apologize for the inconvenience :( Here’s a cookie 🍪

[@Soldaraku]

I thank you for the cookie, but I will never forgive Sonic Forces for this slight.

[@PLAYER42_ready]

I was trying to do this challenge myself but I accidentally sent myself backwards into the level off a slope lol (I also included menus in my version)

[@Yousef77077]

Your work is awesome. Your mentality of “be the change you want” is something I definitely admire. I check thr channel every now and then to see new uploads. It was also really cool to find someone else who likes shadow the hedgehog.

[@abraveastronaut]

I like how at 22:15 the music syncs up with the action.

[@EternalPizza1]

Ok im new to your channel and wow this is some high quality stuff i freakin loved this i tried to do this in mario oddesy but couldn’t even get past anything:/ and nice branding the piranha plants a good choice thanks for making this!!

[@silveramyknux241]

29:34 Normal also prevents you from having over 100 rings

[@Kyle_Spivis]

A Sunday treat thanks for the video!

[@mawdewile]

👌👍

[@IvanoktVan]

Technically, it is possible to complete all levels if you play on the keyboard...

[@blepomorph419]

Great video. Love the challenge videos and look forward to more! Figured Lightning and Drill would be the heavy carriers. Glad you got college and job stuff figured out. See you for the Mystery Dungeon video!

[@bazroyale644]

Love these challenge videos. Can tell youre gonna go far man! ❤

[@tranquillelariat7397]

Excellent video as always and congrats on the job!!!

[@zaku28]

I appreciate the Home reference hehe, nice and chill challenge, I enjoyed watching this as I usually do with your challenge videos woohoo!

[@Scottacon]

I felt that "equipped" segment too hard, man. I recently discovered I've been saying "processing" as "processessing" which wouldn't be a problem except I work in audio and I say it once every two sentences 💀

[@damiandoescrack]

By the way, there is a wispon modification that makes it so when you stomp you zip forward as if running through a speed booster

[@StarManMatt1]

Man's equippeded for this one. Good video as usual, keep it up dude!

[@speedwagondeeznuts]

Congrats on the Job man, take all the time you need❤

[@BiggieCrescent]

The Sonic Sez bit in the middle made me really happy :)

[@okamiame4064]

Loved that home reference lmao, great video of course

[@aki3128]

Awesome video as always but mainly congratulations for finishing college and getting a job!

[@Vlad_Ibarr]

12:41 I can't believe I still remember that scene from Home

[@jdmking4776]

It's a great day when you upload!

[@golemplay64]

Holy shit, actual challenge in Sonic Forces. I never thought i'd see the day.

[@biscuitygudness]

honestly, still having almost half of your game be completable without the analog stick is still a huge failure in a ogilvie maurice the hedgehog game. this was a fun run to watch - that lightning wispon is insane

[@fuckthisstupidasshandleshit]

How?

[@lordadz1615]

Well I guess that's what nakamura wanted. Dashing like a maniac lmfao

[@anotheryoutubeaccount5259]

No Oglivie Maurice the Hedgehog is great

[@bargtv9066]

Thank you.... I've been wanting a video like this for years

[@mawdewile]

I gotchu dawg

[@Idiotic_Idiot666]

Can you beat Sonic Generations without getting an S rank?(and you can’t die to get a lower rank)

[@KOTSOSMC2002]

Man, I don't care that Forces is simple and easy, I think it's fun AF.

[@flameosaurus1832]

It’s definitely not a great game, but Forces gets far too much hate

[@Danny-bl5tq]

​@flameosaurus1832 i think it gets hate due to the fact that the trailers promised so much, and when it came out, the hype had pretty much died down, and it was... mediocre, to say the least. I also feel like it's because the fans knew how much wasted potential there was therefore they hated it. I for one do occasionally play it for fun. (Also infinite had so much potential to be something more than just "I AM NOT WEAK" and "edgy the edgelord")

[@flameosaurus1832]

@@Danny-bl5tq It’s true that it’s an aggressively mediocre game, but a very vocal part of the fanbase (usually dark age fans) treat it like the worst game in the series

[@myleswelnetz6700]

It only works for the 2D levels. The D Pad (or D buttons on the Switch) wasn’t built for 3D platforming.

[@khemikalxxx9993]

My guy ya wicked love the challenges

[@LisaVGG]

Mawde my friend, I love the way you say equipped. It may be wrong but it’s also you, so please don’t try and change how you say it. By the way I love the little bloopers during the VO, it adds charm to an already charming video

[@BraydenKirby-uk7zq]

Your channel is awesome, I love it

[@BraydenKirby-uk7zq]

I love your vids too

[@JUMPYCOOL]

I quite liked Sonic Forces!

[@DJEevee257]

13:16 Hey, that's a PolySonic avatar! Can't believe it's usage is being expanded! (i used to be an admin for that game :p)

[@MadelineJS.2727]

13:12 i love the vibing sonic

[@LasagaMan]

It's worth noting that using Quick Steps perseve momentum so good enough spamming (or turbo)can get you pretty far depending on the situation as far as Modern Sonic and Avi goes.

[@razor4790]

I can’t believe you made Sonic forces actually interesting

[@lodonworks2773]

12:37 FINALLY A PERSON WHO HAS WATCHED HOME FINALLY

[@GlitchOnePlus]

What a coincidence I just came back from the new and last Indiana Jones movie and he’s using the lighting whip ring any bells

[@GamingTopTen]

Congrats on your job, hope it pays well enough.

[@zephyr8072]

Demonstrate this in Sonic Forces and everybody chill. Demonstrate this in FFXVI and everybody buttmad.

[@StarshadowMelody]

One in a million, sample size of seven billion. Y'ain't alone, kiddo, keep lookin', you'll find someone you can count on.

[@lostmyedge_]

Congrats on 1mil channel views

[@lukechesnaught]

This is madness! Awesome!

[@LinkRammer]

This game looks really fun! I'll buy it.

[@bIobwastaken]

Yay a video from the outright LEGEND now we just need that 06 challenge congrats on the job btw hope they're treating you well

[@isenokami7810]

I’d say “beat 06 without encountering horrible glitches”, but frankly they were pretty kind to me when I played it. Not that my run was completely painless, but the issues I had involved the Havok Engine making explosives blow my rings into the stratosphere as they drop and, well, End of the World. Both things that aren’t actually glitches, just things working as intended that really weren’t thought through.

[@andreanardelli6468]

Cool, a video on my first sonic game!

[@Ocranix]

Brodie spent 2 hours on a shadow level just for it to be shown for 30 seconds. W dedication

[@Jesusfreakelijah]

Had to drop a comment appreciating the Home reference.

[@greengaming2604]

This deserves a fist bump 👊

[@mawdewile]

Ahahahaaaaaaa 😎

[@suroguner]

to answer the title question, All of them can be. On the switch version the direction buttons can be used in place of the analogue on ALL stages no problem.

[@JustJulyo]

One hand boosts are always the best!

[@bulletcat139]

You;ve evolved a fgood bit since you did shadw the hedgehog, nice video

[@viscountrainbows2857]

Aside from cookie dough (although that one slaps too), we have two same favorite flavors of ice cream. My third being this one that may be local to my area, but it's Martha's Vineyard Blackberry. Subbed for that alone. Also PHRASING 26:28

[@josephrose9830]

I get the reference to home in the video. Nice reference.

[@CristataArt]

Great video! If you discounted the 2D levels, then what would the percentage be? If you fundamentally can't make any progress at all then it feels like there's an argument to be made for not counting them in the challenge.

[@realjordantrs]

Out of all the things to reference… Home is NOT a movie I expected to get referenced

[@bobbob1876]

new Mawde Wilde video just dropped!! time for me to stop everything and enjoy the show!

[@Lepro2526]

Remember, this is peak game design👌

[@Sydney_Angelyt]

All of them. Just use the D-pad. edit: nevermind, use the arrow keys.

[@levthelion71810]

I love your videos

[@mattdoesanimations]

Every stage is possible. The entire game has dpad support.

[@keen7youtubeistoast796]

You would be surprised how many levels you can beat in other Sonic games, when you have a button that boosts you forward...

[@IanNBF]

Don't tell RadicalSoda, he's already dealt with this game enough for one lifetime

[@ivomartinez9245]

good heckin' content

[@smt64productions40]

Imagine the in universe reactions of Sonic’s friends and Eggman watching

[@yfjliydskiu2864]

this is the most fun sonic forces has ever looked…

[@crossfire6393]

"*insert level* It is a 2d level that stars Sonic" Mawde Wile 2023

[@33pandagamer]

Nice video.

[@TM_Em0lga]

I get the reference at 12:37. That’s from the movie Home. That movie is 10/10

[@eclipse3066]

I got the Home reference, you can sleep peacefully now 👍

[@JessicaMorgani]

Can you please give me ANY more context on the whole "solo himself on smash" thing! That looked so cool!

[@mawdewile]

I used the main footage is from a smash video of a Goku vs Vegeta mod. But I believe the little box with Sakurai in corner was from the Banjo-Kazooie presentation. I just cropped everything around Sakurai and placed it in front of the DBZ smash video for a quick gag

[@Robowil]

Technically all of them can be beaten without the analog stick, as you can use the D-Pad to move the characters (you have to map the analog stick to the D-Pad through Steam on PC however but yea)

[@JJRetroH]

Ayeee man put a home reference in it

[@The_Ultimate_Agent]

22:05 Infinite finally takes his first W.