How memory plays us: Elizabeth Loftus at TEDxOrangeCoast

[@peggyharris3815]

That story about Titus sent shivers down my spine!

[@123benny4]

You should always listen to what people say but make up your own conclusions depending on how and what they've said. We should watch TV, read newspapers, books, critically. Education prepares us for not taking everything at its face value and in certain situations to be skeptical. People perceive experiences differently, even if they went through exactly the same thing. The right questions have to be asked and we have to remember that what ever happened may contain flaws. Dr. Loftus' work is essential and fascinating. She is courageous to continue with it. She questions and looks at things as a researcher. Just hearing her here makes me wonder about all the perceptions I have of my childhood. She makes some enlightening points here.

[@user-oi6gw4xw3p]

Dr. Loftus has been honored by APA's review of general psychology as one of the 100 most eminent psychologists of the 20th century

[@stanleyklein524]

Truly a sad comment on that benighted field.

[@Marianna-js3ji]

The SSA Psychologist at my last SSI hearing stated that my memories and reporting of my abuse never changed over the six years it took to get it.

[@sr2291]

What does SERE stand for in the military? Overview: Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (SERE) are four key skills required by aircraft personnel in the unexpected event that their aircraft goes down, especially in hostile territory.

[@morningstarred]

It's always a little weird and pretty cool to see someone that you know in a forum like this...Dr. Loftus is a professor at my university and a very interesting woman, and although I've never met her personally, she's been involved in a program I'm in, and her research is all at once unsettling and fascinating.

[@hilarleo]

Awwright!! 20 Questions!! Lemme guess: 1-You've never met Dr, Loftus but 2-You feel you admire Dr. Loftus' work.. and that at some level 3- You two are involved in some related fields 4- So you figured "Time to drop some truth on KZbin" 5- 'Cuz it makes you interesting by association & 'cause PostSecret is just 2danm slow and random. 6- .You Are . . . .Almost Famous! ... or you were. Alright! Fame. That's amusing. Now I hope you find & share your real blessings- access and education- among the planet's less fortunate nations. 7- BTW, it's true: Camera lenses+small video fields DO make people seem 'a little weird' compared with what the eye normally expects. 8- Or was your point more that you had yourself seen Dr. L on campus somewhere? B/c NOT knowing your story, this is punishing me. Why don't you just get it over with. TELL US where you saw her! I'ma guess: Psychologym, right?

[@watev26789]

Man I'm so jealous. Dr Loftus has been my role model all these years that I've been studying psychology and I wish I could meet her someday in person. You're so lucky

[@abbaswafa9273]

@@hilarleo wth is wrong w u

[@warrenbruhn5888]

Cannot understand why Prof. Loftus is being attacked here. The psychological research is very extensive in this field, and she is only one of many psychologists exploring the nature of memory through studies and experiments. She's not even remotely alone in her research and conclusions. And much further work needs to be done on this scientific topic for decades to come.

[@lambanmartyr]

You need to read the New Yorker article “past imperfect” I can’t begin to describe how horrible she has been for survivors of assault. She’s in deep denial of her own past and those denial shaped her work to the detriment of victims and the complete deference of men.

[@frankjohnson150]

They’re confusing her with Pamela Freyd, who is the one who was drummed out of the APA, etc. for shoddy research. But, people who have absolutely convinced themselves of things that didn’t happen don’t want to hear it.

[@stanleyklein524]

It is palpable nonsense. She has NO evidence (conceptual OR empirical) that any of her findings issue from memory. More likely judgment bias due to leading terms. Pathetic.

[@sr2291]

Frequently mostly often been in psychotherapy? What about the ones who have never been in therapy?

[@RickNelsonMn]

Using this to attack the true memories of a childhood rape victim will be one of the worst uses of this manipulation. False memory is one thing, knowing one's memory and having it attacked by a zealot is another. Whom are the zealots of memory attack, I don't know, who are you?!

[@lucbenoit7927]

Exactly, this woman is dangerous to all survivors. Because of her and the false memory community, survivors suffer as they don't get the appropriate help they need to deal with the flashbacks and the memories that start coming back. Oftentimes, many survivors' self-destructive behaviors will only intensify when a survivor is not being believed.

[@sr2291]

@Luc Benoit Lucien Greaves of the Satanic Temple too.

[@mildlyamusedroadkill6409]

when i was younger a very traumatizing thing happened to me and my siblings i have 7 siblings, back then i only had 6, sibling 1 has no memory of it, sibling 2 wont talk about it and remembers very little, siblings 3 and 4 (the direct victims) defensively insist that nothing happened, me and sibling 5 have sisific memories from it but their opposite of each other, and sibling 6 (the oldest) claims that he has perfect memory of it... i don't know what to believe after seeing this video lmao

[@shanestrickland5006]

If memory is not reliable then everyone's memory is at question. Including this women and all scientists. This then causes problems with relying on science unless they write the results down immediately.

[@JB-rp2ej]

Memory is complicated, I would suggest writing down what you remember so you have that as a point of reference for future. Then, if you really want, you could look for some form of empirical evidence (this could be a police report, records from a dr's visit, dated photos of injuries, or diary entries from when you were a child that may have described the event). Regardless, I'm sorry that you've experienced this distressing event

[@drewd2939]

traumatic memories don't just come out of nowhere. Sure, for vague memories some of the details get lost over time. But things that are painful and life-altering stay with you and retain a lot more clarity. Everyone knows this. We shouldn't let this extremely questionable "psychologist" (fixer) alter what everyone already knows to be true from experience.

[@notaraccoon258]

trauma shapes and molds the brain, some of us with c-ptsd tend to experience blackouts (i dont have many memories before the 4th grade, when a traumatic event happened that i *very* vaguely remember), while my younger brother who also experienced the event, diagnosed with ptsd, still has nightmares and remembers every detail. its extremely complicated, theres no single formula for how trauma effects our cognition.

[@markjacksonturner6462]

Is there a possibility of False Memory re: Institutional Abuse within the Residential First Nations Schools? Could the true and accurate memory of several children be incorporated by many other children in the residential school.

[@lambanmartyr]

Elizabeth Loftus should not be considered for any serious science anymore. She’s operating from a place of denial of her own family history her canon is based on denial her own family history.

[@drewd2939]

child abuse is real. Ask yourself why this woman is trying to disprove it exists.

[@sr2291]

@@drewd2939 Bingo!

[@MichaelLayneWeston]

​@@drewd2939 That's not at all what she is doing.

[@DexterHaven]

You are doing the Lord's work. The criminal defense bar could use you as an expert witness, as you know, for false witness ID cases, to prevent false convictions.

[@johnpace5195]

It’s time we retire the fallacious notion of gas lighting and that we have to validate every claimed memory

[@JojoRonaldo7]

well spoken

[@YvanovitchLeTerrible]

Cela a été prouvé par des historiens français que la mémoire de certains témoins de la WW2 était plus que malléable ! Mais la démonstration faite par une juive est plus que de délectable .......merci à elle

[@sr2291]

This woman is going to give me a stroke.

[@Kaninfisken]

I wouldn't listen to this if I were you. This woman decided to throw ethics out of the window and investigate a patient that had allegedly been abused by her mother. She didn't ask permission or even talk to the patient herself. She cobbled together various bits of information to find the patient, talked to several relatives and proceeded to heavily interpret statements so as to support her belief that the patient hadn't been abused. She did this because she was the flag holder for the part of psychology that believes memories can't be suppressed. In service of supporting her own claim, she ripped open a case she had nothing to do with, never asked permission and claimed that this is what journalists do every day. I would not believe anything this woman has to say about anything because her values are the exact opposite of the scientific method. She does not pursue truth or scientific discovery. She basically got a slap on the wrist (had to take an ethics class) for not asking permission and moved on to another university. The patient still struggles with not knowing whether or not she was abused. I think it's despicable to act like that because you want to get ahead in your field. Listen to This American Life: Here's Looking At You Kid, Act Two: Grownups Know Things for more information.

[@Steve-tc2pi]

She gives easy to understand examples.

[@Steve-tc2pi]

Recoverd memory is un reliable if that's all you got. The person could fake the recoverd memories. It's un constitutional. It's an arbitrary crime. It's GIGO. It's a danger to society. Instead of just denying false allegations people need to file lawsuits against the false accusers.

[@stanleyklein524]

That should set off massive alarms.@@Steve-tc2pi

[@morganhansen3404]

oh yes, and the jane doe case, she was fined for misrepresenting herelf to the prosecution as being part of their team. basically, she tried to contact "jane" directly, so she could mess her mind a little and was caught. this woman is highly protected, so the other 20 counts were dismissed. but irrefutable was the evidence for tampering.

[@lambanmartyr]

She was trying to mend her broken relationship with her deceased mother. So pathological.

[@MindsetMatterswithSandra]

Gives the Kavanugh case a whole different perspective... currently the USA is undergoing such upheaval with people and their memories...

[@stanleyklein524]

It would be a truly amazing outcome for Psychological "Science" if Prof Loftus could define "memory" prior to asking whether this unclear concept can be manipulated? Too much to ask of psychological "science"? Note: Remembering is not coextensive with memory. All memory is remembered. But not everything remembered is a memory (e.g., belief, plans, imaginations...). So, why does the meaning of the term "memory" matter? Because there is NO evidence that Loftus's study has anything to do with memory. If asking for judgments (how fast) via leading words (smashed, bumped) results in differences in judgment, what does that say about memory per se? Was memory even involved? If so, what is the evidence? Participants were unlikely to have a memory for car speed (since actual, measured speed was not part of their experience). Most likely had no clear idea/memory about velocity or acceleration. What they remembered as memory likely was some vague and general details about the experienced crash scenario. Loftus therefore influences participant judgment (not memory -- we do make judgments after all absent memorial retrieval) with leading terms. This is Wittgenstein's word games. Participants are biased in their judgment. Period. If memory is involved, what is the evidence? The only "evidence" consists in a tortured collection of unsubstantiated inferences. Pathetic

[@venusel3860]

For the money and the glory, this woman who lie a lot

[@morganhansen3404]

oh, my mistake, she's approaching this from the 'folksy " angle, not so flowery or intimidating.

[@juliareed9823]

Shame on you for having this woman speak. Her bogus research has been discredited numerous times. She had to leave the APA. This person has no ethics.

[@MichaelLayneWeston]

Then why does the APA website say this about her? "Elizabeth Loftus, PhD, is one of the nation's leading experts on memory. Her experiments reveal how memories can be changed by things that we are told. Facts, ideas, suggestions and other post-event information can modify our memories. ... Loftus has been an expert witness or consultant in hundreds of cases... She has been honored by APA’s Review of General Psychology as one of the 100 most eminent psychologists of the 20th century and she received the 2016 John Maddox Prize which recognizes the work of individuals who promote sound science and evidence on a matter of public interest, facing difficulty or hostility in doing so." Perhaps you misremembered?

[@venusel3860]

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