How Much Does It Cost To Turbocharge a BRZ/FRS/GT86?

[@VS666]

22yr old me: sweet turbo kit for 4200 26yr old me: so i'm in this for about 10k now... 31yr old me: just stop counting, LS swap everything

[@Smeedia]

Lmao accurate 😅 something a lot of us can relate to

[@Myself-zk8yw]

I noticed this when I was around 25k deep into my car 🤣 a brz

[@kongxiong6005]

@@Myself-zk8yw lol wtf did you do to go in 25k.

[@Myself-zk8yw]

@@kongxiong6005 I went built drivetrain that alone was a fuck ton more expensive then what people Spend on a built motor plus other trans stuff I did driveshaft diff axles mounts fueling cooling bigger turbo turbo kit tuning engine parts to make it be reliable clutch it all adds up very quick and don’t forget there’s lots of other shit in between

[@kongxiong6005]

@@Myself-zk8yw damn so you got caught in the whole I need even more power rabbit hole. I just like to keep my car around 400whp horsepower which doesn't require that much modification. Honda reliability😆. But hey if you like to drag race all the time then you're right what you did is a must and will probably save you even more money in the long run.

[@colegrish9732]

thank you so much for this video man. you broke it down piece by piece explaining parts, prices and system mechanics. this was a great walkthrough. keep it up!

[@jordandayley6682]

Originally came to your channel years ago because of the sti, then stayed because the engine swap when I was going to get an svx. Now I’m back as I might be purchasing a 2014 FRS. Love the content man, always a fan of your videos

[@Smeedia]

Eyyyyy alqays appreciate the support ans when you looking At that FRS?!

[@STIStuff]

Crazy how it adds up, my GR STI has had multiple times more than that spent on it over the years. Price we pay for our hobbies, can’t wait to see the EG33 back from out front.

[@Smeedia]

Waiting on a few photos to come back from outfront but I have confirmation that the close decking is done 🔥🙏

[@romariosmith422]

I'm pieceing my kit together. So far its coming along well.

[@Smeedia]

When do you think it'll be good to go? 😍

[@romariosmith422]

@@Smeedia next year. Only because school is the priority. I don't mind though. It's not a rush but it kinda is haha

[@stevenhurtado9982]

@@romariosmith422 how much do you have so far?

[@Autism-Forums]

Did you turbo it? Gave up huh

[@HirschPower]

Updates?

[@johnnyVGtran]

I think after i'm done with the wrx i'm gonna get a boosted BRZ .My fav car has been my old S15 ,Rwd+turbo ..This is the next best thing with the new technology .Love it! Another thorough vid Tanner

[@Smeedia]

Thank you! And you'll love it when you do get one! 😁🔥

[@JonY-ub2ho]

Subaru needs to make their engines easier to mod. These would sell so much more if they made turning and modding easier and cheaper with a decent clutch and transmission.

[@buboos4920]

they also need to make them be able to withstand modifications

[@Carlos.Rivera]

If they make the internals "forged" could be more easily to forced induction, like K20/24

[@ChanoWilliams]

It costs what it takes, and that's all you need to know! Thanks for sharing.

[@Smeedia]

Anytime 🙏 try to be open with the costs, but definitely cheaper ways to do it and more expensive ways as well

[@ChanoWilliams]

@@Smeedia Thought you might appreciate this video that was posted recently: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqHbgIZ6h6lnpbs

[@Mickey-im3bg]

Hahahahah true speed junkie.

[@Hankblue]

Not worth it even from the initial cost of the turbo + install. For that much extra you can just get a 370z stock with similar mileage, will make the same power and won't lose value and reliability from aftermarket turbo.

[@Spextre]

@@Hankblue Oh boy. Why do people like you realize we don't want a 370z. We want a BRZ LOL. The entire point of building a car is to get what you want and to have fun with the final result. It doesn't matter how much it costs.

[@matthewwain9958]

Holy heck... I never realized you had an original BRZ! I thought your first one was a 2022! I'm considering getting a 2018 BRZ TS in place of my 2018 STI Limited (Yeah, I know, I know lol).... so this is an interesting video :)

[@MrNoNameForYou]

Lot of money for a turbo. There's 2 types of people I've seen though. The never own a car always swap them. They don't think you "can" own a car. And those of us that are willing to put whatever into what we have because it's OUR CAR. We own it & plan on keeping it. We're willing to invest in "ourselves"

[@Smeedia]

Agreed, I wouldn't necessarily call this an investment but I get where your coming from. I don't plan on getting rid of either the STI or the BRZ so I'm fine putting some love into them. But for those who don't keep cars long I wouldent put the money into them 🙏

[@MrNoNameForYou]

@@Smeedia I've met a lot of people like that. They say in this age you can't own a car. It's the age of leasing. They think of cars like phones. They like cars. But they don't like them enough to make them theirs. If a car matters to you I think you'll do whatever you want to it financially!

[@dham99]

car looks good, and its basically the same concept of upgrading power for a Miata...it wont make a TON, but it makes it more FUN...for the price, it kills me how much it costs for hp on some of these platforms (vs say, my Focus ST with that kind of money would have a built block, big turbo, and push over 500whp easy)... but one thing i did not see you mention which usually costs a good chunk, is FMIC. It looks like it has one unless thats just the radiator that was upgraded and maintaining low charge temps is basically one of THE most important steps on a boosted car. A FMIC is basically synonymous with any boosted upgrade...

[@chazepalmeri1694]

Sick ride bro!

[@Smeedia]

Thank you! 🙏😁

[@awankenobi]

That intro music is... MMM DELICIOUS!!!

[@Smeedia]

Eyyyy thank you 🙌🔥

[@apexvisiontv]

Nice vid man. The maperformance kit looks solid!

[@Smeedia]

Thank you! And it was a Gnarly looking kit!

[@dorian_vlogs]

Clean build.

[@Smeedia]

Thank you Dorian 🙏

[@FineVisionz]

Beautiful build!

[@Smeedia]

Thank you! 🙏😁

[@luisrivera-wong1767]

Amazing build! Have you ever thought about what you are going to do after you're done playing with it? If/when you choose to sell it, are you going to convert it back to stock or just try to sell it as is?

[@Smeedia]

If the time ever came where I did decide to sell it, I would sell the car as is. And thank you! 🔥😁

[@exannuc]

Was thinking of going turbo but after watching I'm like NA

[@Smeedia]

🙏🙏🙏

[@ajw828]

Kaching ka Ching ka Ching. Great video man, so many people tell me "oh yEaH I waNnA buy a turBo kit for my cAr". Will be showing them this video. This is also with YOU doing all the work, and not having to pay a shop for all the labor. Excellent music throughout.

[@Smeedia]

Agreed, the labor savings from doing everything yourself really does pay off. And there's so many more hidden costs then people think when it comes to turbocharging an N/A car 🙏😁

[@AJBAF]

Agreed! I installed everything for my jdl kit on my frs. For fun I got a quote from a shop and they said it would be 2000+ for installation lol saved myself 2k I'll take it. I did all the extra supporting mods he spoke of from different brands though. I get this question a lot and they really dont realize, you cant just slap a turbo on it and call it a day. the supporting mods matter if you want to keep your car happy, and relieve yourself of some of the anxiety lol

[@kopronko]

Thank you. :-) Excellent projest !!! :-) Just paint it in One piece colour, to not spoil the beautiful shape/lines/silhuette of this beautiful car :-) Pwy :-)

[@esko23q]

Don't forget to change the weak-ass rods the stock pistons are ok... Some people have been lucky with stock rods. The driveshaft will explode change that too and oil-cooler is a must. - If you go boost E85 will be beneficial and will help the engine survive being boosted.

[@I-didnt-ask-you]

Driveshaft should be fine. Did you mean the axles? E85 helps with the octane but degraded the fueling system and the DI seals over time, and can cause buildup if the engine is not brought up to temperature. (I.E. driving only a couple miles, small short trips etc.)

[@TheBuddilla]

Doesn't want to spend money on new pulleys on a supercharger for more boost, proceeds to add more boost to turbocharger and a rod comes a knockin. Anything above 350 HP(basically supercharger with California CARB sized pulley, e85, tune and stock everything else) you are going to need to rebuild the engine. But awesome build!!!

[@Smeedia]

Thank you! And don't plan on pushing the stock block past 300 but down the line I want to build it, swap the turbo and add some more boost to it 🔥🙏

[@projectzangetsu2003]

Those are some sick wheels on your BRZ, dude!

[@Smeedia]

Thanks my man! They're the engine NT03s 🔥

[@projectzangetsu2003]

@@Smeedia Awesome. You think those will fit on a blobeye?

[@Smeedia]

Yes they would 🙏😁

[@braetonwilson4296]

Thanks for sharing! I plan on buying a 2022 Toyota GR 86 base automatic. Zero mods and zero turbocharger. I don't want to end up like Paul Walker or Corey LaBarrie

[@Smeedia]

I just pre ordered a 2022 BRZ, looking forward to building another 🔥

[@mentgeneral]

@Smeedia Hello Smeedia. I love how hte car looks. Simply beautiful. Did you have the chance to measure performance, like 0-60 and top speed after the upgrade?

[@markmarko9855]

I replaced the 2.0 with a 3phase AC engine battery pack and computers and it doubles the output i ever got from the 2.0 liter and is far faster on take off with instant on. IT was a much better move than turbo or Supercharger for me

[@alexanderdanielsson6049]

interesting

[@joshuabeeler1930]

Oooohh whats that? How does that work?!?!?!

[@I-didnt-ask-you]

An electric conversion?

[@VEA-un9hx]

Nice wheels

[@kgthegreatone943]

Great job!

[@Smeedia]

Thanks my man! 🙏😁

[@kgthegreatone943]

@@Smeedia no problem my dude!

[@Mike67881]

What oil type did you change to for turbo setup?

[@speedtab215]

At 9:51 you said it was 9k to double your hp but I thought you said you made 283whp

[@codgodsof5702]

200 crank stock. 150 wheel.

[@michaelsawyerjr1146]

So as the brz is now is it still the same way now 7 months later or have you upgraded or stuff if it’s still the was it was in the video how is it running and how is the reliability?

[@Smeedia]

Ended up selling thr car in December to a buddy of mine, not too much has changed get on it but it's till.mobbing around 🙏😁 no issues with it and still see it regularly

[@Full_Zeb]

Spending 30+k on a BRZ or just grabbing a stock 370z

[@ItzCodeRed]

Absolutely sexy! Nice job with this breakdown video! I enjoy the info and such. Such a nice brz!

[@Smeedia]

Thank you, and appreciate the kind words 🙌🙏

[@downhillgroovy]

did those prices include the installation cost or did you do it all yourself?

[@Smeedia]

I installed it myself 🙏

[@bodiesbybradsfitnessbrad8621]

Tanner back when you had your clutch issues you brought it to your dealership where they fixed it for you did they have a problem with your non factory clutch parts I didn’t think they would work on anything but OEM?

[@Smeedia]

I brought the car back to subaru for the valve spring recall and they have to pull the motor anyway, but the issue i had was the verus clutch fork. The neck of it was too thick and not allowing the TOB to fully disengage the clutch. Because they pulled the engine for the recall they swapped the clutch for for an OEM one when I brought it in 🙏

[@bradgreen987]

Why do fun, pretty cars cost so much to mod?! Bet the rear wheel drive is tons of fun. Got my hoodie. Thx so much. Very plush

[@Smeedia]

Glad it made it! Was worried about USPS losing it 😅 and the unfortunate truth is we have to pay to play 😅🙏

[@SSNOEY]

Kinda sounds like it just be cheaper to engine swap it... regardlesss what would you say is the best engine to engine swap it, while maintaining reliability

[@Smeedia]

LS would prob be thr most affordable and most reliable swap 🙏

[@MikeJones-vu2ob]

I’m so confused why the whp #s are so low on these turbo’d brzs ? .. is there no way to get 375-400ish whp reliably ? What drivetrain components can you upgrade on these ?

[@I-didnt-ask-you]

The stock engines are very high compression and the connecting rods are a bit on the weak side especially when having too much low end torque. They are cast and have a unique angle so an improper tune or too much low end power or detonation can bend them. The block itself can accept around 500 despite being open deck design. However octane and connecting rods are the biggest limitation. That why most people who do not have special built engines will typically not exceed 300 to 350 whp. Most will be around 270 give or take 30. Also, the transmission will tend to break 4th gear if loading too much torque into it (in the manual). When aiming above 400 nm of torque it is best to consider upgrading to a fairlady transmission or just go a bit easy on the stock one.

[@brieee28]

Is there a version of the downpipe from that turbo kit that has a catalytic converter? If not, is there another catted downpipe somewhere that fits this turbo kit?

[@Smeedia]

I believe you can get them catted, I would double check with M.A.P though 🙏

[@goldyrl5172]

Thanks for the video man I'm looking at buying a brz as a daily and was wondering HM it would cost to turbo it

[@Smeedia]

If you do turbo it, they're a blast to drive!

[@Hyunw22]

What made you choose the turbo setup over the supercharger?

[@Smeedia]

For me I knew I would want more power later, easier to turn up the boost. And you can only go so small with a supercharger pulley 🙏🙏🙏

[@gryphon123456]

If you go much higher you'll have to get forged internals. wonder how much that will add?

[@Smeedia]

If you have a shop build the short block I would expect around $3200

[@jensn6490]

I just honked at you on 512 at 10:15pm, I think it was your sti? I was driving a blue rs coupe. Have a good weekend!

[@Smeedia]

Not me 😅 but I hope you have a good weekend as well! 🙏😁

[@jensn6490]

@@Smeedia oh haha, it had a similar wing on the back. Eventually I'll see ya, I drive through Puyallup on the way to work

[@Smeedia]

@@jensn6490 the STI is also down right now so keep an eye out for the brz! 😁😁😁

[@nissan1580sx]

i was offered a HKS and Greddy which would cost AUD$10K to turbo. im just waiting to pay off the car so that i can go ahead with this (more inclined to go AVO turbo). before i go with this, need to start with suspension and bigger tyres. since i plan on keeping my 86 GTS, definitely looking to change conrods so that i can run 14 lbs of boost. i also priced some bigger brakes from AP racing. Scotty Kilmer will tell you cars are endless money pits

[@Smeedia]

Same, I love mine and it doesn't overly bother me. And 14lbs will definitely be a fun set up on the car 😍 ive heard good things about the AVO kit as well

[@nissan1580sx]

I’m trying to keep it looking factory since cops over here hassle people with modified cars. If they try to hassle me when I get this installed, engineers certification will cover me.

[@glennsison501]

Awesome build. What's the compression on the stock pistons? Thanks

[@Smeedia]

About 12:1 🙏 and thank you! 🔥

[@glennsison501]

@@Smeedia 😨😨😨

[@Smeedia]

High compression with these cars 😅

[@I-didnt-ask-you]

12.5:1 if not mistaken.

[@am1no269]

How much does it cost to turbocharge a brz?

[@speedtab215]

What’s the difference between a blow off valve and a waste gate?

[@Smeedia]

BOV releases air in the charge pipe with the throttle body closes, thr W/G dumps exhaust when thr boost controller tells it to, to limit how much PSI your making

[@speedtab215]

@@Smeedia okay so the bov only happens after throttle and the wastegate functions at all times? Thanks for the reply.. What’s the difference between an internet wastegate and external wastegate?

[@Smeedia]

I've got you 🙌 kzbin.info/www/bejne/omq9qpKvdtOKaJI

[@speedtab215]

@@Smeedia thanks dude, watching it now

[@bad_puppy_6740]

How strong should the brakes be with the added power?

[@Smeedia]

With better pads and rotors the brakes hold up fine, I've got a heavy foot though so larger brakes would not be a bad idea 😅

[@JFlogerzi]

Remember the stock brakes come from a wrx which has more power and weights more.

[@matt25675]

@@JFlogerzi really?

[@JFlogerzi]

@@matt25675 yes sir.

[@Tonyromeo1970]

I've seen a few "SUPER CHARGED" BRZ. Why didn't you go that route?

[@Smeedia]

I debated it, for my I knew I would want to make more power with the car later down the road and with a supercharger your fairly limited on what you can do. The turbo set up makes it much easier. Either turn the boost up or swap the turbo and the car can easily make heeps more power 🙏

[@Tonyromeo1970]

@@Smeedia Thanks for the response and the education :)

[@Smeedia]

Anytime! Appreciate the support! 🙌

[@JFlogerzi]

Mostly with superchargers they are also less efficient. That being said I love my e85 sprintex setup. It makes 300whp and 250wtq on 13psi and e85. But the power and torque curve is really fun for back roads and street

[@jacobbarney124]

Okay how much staging did you have to do to get those first shots of driving in the parking lot? Like how long did it take?! What'd you use?

[@Smeedia]

Lop maybe 20 min or so, the overhead shots were with my drone (i use the mavic mini and mavic pro), the rest was handheld with my EOS R 🙏

[@jacobbarney124]

@@Smeedia aight doesn't sound too bad! Especially for the sick out come, love the content keep it going brother!

[@Smeedia]

Thank you! 😁

[@roybrown7717]

So if you were to swap in the FA20 from the wrx, wouldnt the ECU be the same since its the same engine? i mean that way you keep the functions you mentioned, but also you have a block thats already turboed

[@Smeedia]

Yes and no, there are differences in the motors and ECUs so it would still require wiring to be changed. The main issue with the WRX FA20 is that the turbo sits too low for the BRZ to use

[@roybrown7717]

@@Smeedia ahh well then makes all the sense that its not plug n play.

[@I-didnt-ask-you]

Nope. Those are DI only and the 86 is PI and DI. Not to mention the engines don't have enough unique differences to justify a swap. The internals are pretty much the same from what I've come to read.

[@rebelliousgoat1557]

I like to call those cars the Trinity Coupe! You heard it here first ❤️

[@Smeedia]

Ohhhh never heard it and like it 🔥😁

[@speedtab215]

On their website it says 2012-2017 for the turbo kit, what changes did they make to the 86/brz in 2018???

[@Smeedia]

Manifold is really thr only thing that comes to mind

[@daviddedos]

how many miles did you have before turbo?

[@Smeedia]

50,000 🙏

[@daviddedos]

I got 65k. Do you think I can safely turbo?

[@Smeedia]

Oh yeah! Should be fine 🙌🔥

[@paniki_man2512]

I have spent almost 30.000usd of mods for my Mazda MX5 ND.... spent 30% of these for import tax and 10% overseas shipping. And there still lots of thing on my wish list...😅

[@Smeedia]

Oh I know the feels 🔥😁

[@Kaiceratops27]

i'm scared to add up what i've spent on my wagon lol

[@Smeedia]

I'm scared to do that with the STI 😅

[@codythrasher3930]

Need some help! Where is the fuel Schradwr valve to check for fuel pressure on the STI? I’m so lost

[@Smeedia]

Stock?

[@codythrasher3930]

Smeedia yeah.

[@Smeedia]

Are you trying to change fuel pressure or just read the stock? The stock system dose not allow for you to be able to read it unless you add an in-line gauge.

[@codythrasher3930]

Smeedia I installed dw340 pump, 1050 injectors, and flex fuel. It was great for 24hrs and then it’s just running super super lean out of no where. So was thinking of checking the fuel pressure seeing if I was getting enough

[@Smeedia]

You really should swap the FPR over to st least the cobb fuel stumble fix. You can't set or adjust pressure from the OEM unit

[@Hacktheplanet_]

What about insurance increase?

[@Smeedia]

No changes 🙏

[@Reksir]

Mann this shit is expensive!! I have the oil cooler already atleast lol After watching this break down, I think ill be putting off the turbo for a while lol

[@Smeedia]

Its definitely not the cheapest but can be done cheaper as well. Supercharger set up's are also much easier and a little cheaper 😁

[@Reksir]

@@Smeedia I want the jdl v2 turbo kit and upgrades including clutch and other things you got aswell lol ill never go supercharger

[@Smeedia]

I like the way you think 🔥😉 i wish I would have got the JDl kit 😪

[@mandoelorryann4171]

Sheesh 10k for like +80hp doesnt seem worth it to me 🥴

[@Ieatzboltz]

I never owned a rwd but I feel like I would launch mine right into the wall. I have a wrx and my girl dumped me so guess where all my money is going? Alcohol 😢 LOL and mods.

[@Smeedia]

This took a much darker turn than I was expecting, don't drink too much my dude and get back on the horse 🔥

[@chanceharvey3172]

Shouldn’t you build the block as well?

[@Smeedia]

It would be a smart idea 😅

[@chanceharvey3172]

@@Smeedia only saying that because my performance shop said they would t want to install FI on my BRZ unless I got the block built.

[@Smeedia]

Stock blocks can handle around 9PSI or so, mine is still running around being best on 😅

[@stevena8649]

What is the max hp the engine and transmission can take?

[@Smeedia]

I've seen some up to 350ish WHP but gets dicey.

[@AngusOutram]

Damn you went all out on this! Any plans to go built motor?

[@Smeedia]

If this one pops then yes 😅🔥 need to finish the STI before pulling another motor but at some point yes 😁🔥

[@tancmp]

Great info, but I wish you would speak a little slower.

[@mohamedmohamedali177]

How much os labor

[@Smeedia]

For me $0, did everything myself. But as an estimate average ship rate is around $120 and we'll say the kit is 15 hours labor. Labor would fall around $1800 or so

[@a.jennings4664]

The price doesn't even include the time spend installing the turbo and supporting performance parts. Time is after all...money.

[@Smeedia]

True, doing all your own labor like I did is significantly cheaper but with time included from a shop would definitely increase price

[@TheCarNerd2897]

Good afternoon

[@Smeedia]

Good morning! 🙏😁

[@TheCarNerd2897]

@@Smeedia mfw a week into vw golf mk6 ownership axle snaps doing a burnout :/

[@Smeedia]

Got damn, already fixed though?

[@TheCarNerd2897]

@@Smeedia yeah

[@TheCarNerd2897]

@@Smeedia gonna get a ecs lightweight crank pulley

[@JFlogerzi]

That's all good. Flex fuel is your friend of you have e85

[@Smeedia]

I'd like to swap the car over to E85 in the near future 🔥🙏

[@JFlogerzi]

@@Smeedia do it. These cars love corn with boost.

[@speedtab215]

@@JFlogerzi if the none built motor can handle the power yeah

[@brettfrechette3811]

It made 80 More than stock I’d LS Chevy swap it at this point.

[@Smeedia]

+1

[@matt25675]

What? These have like 150 hp to the wheels stock

[@tommanning7337]

😎👍🏻👍🏻

[@Smeedia]

🙏🔥🙏🔥🙏

[@i_read_bad_reviews]

Ebay turbo one

[@krbassin2465]

At this point should just jz swap it

[@Early_2K]

10 grand for 280 whp? OOF

[@Smeedia]

Big offffff

[@GT-RTData9]

Meh, if the goal is having a “fast car” then just buy a fast car or at least one that’s a lot more tuner friendly. Doing any type of power mods to an 86/BRZ is absolutely pointless.

[@romariosmith422]

Swap the car for less? Yea right.

[@Smeedia]

Depends on what the swap is, junkyard LS can be done pretty cheap

[@Smeedia]

As a daily the OEM features are nice to have. For an all out track car, drift car or street car a swap would prob be best. But fully agree with you 🔥🙏

[@sansar44]

seems like an awful lot of work or just buy a mustang gt

[@Smeedia]

Definitely other cars that will make power easier 😅 when I went into this i I tally only thought it could cost 4-5K.... got out of hand quickly lol

[@sansar44]

@@Smeedia Don't get me wrong this is really nice work/a great project but there must of been some headaches along the way. Well worth it in the end though

[@Smeedia]

This whole car was headache after headache, been heavily contemplating selling it when the 400Z comes out.

[@BrockJaden]

learn how to tune and fab and do it all for less than $1000.

[@Smeedia]

That's the end goal 🙌

[@PROJECTDRIVEN1]

Tuning is expensive...you pay to play

[@FULLtiltSENDER]

Jeez bro at that point just save ur money and buy a faster car 😅

[@Smeedia]

Got 2 now and a 2022 BRZ 😅

[@kevincontreras1907]

5k+ just to make base wrx power lmao

[@Smeedia]

Lawlz

[@gates762x6]

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[@Smeedia]

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[@gates762x6]

Smeedia lol my phone was glitching and wouldn’t led me discard the comment I accidentally started typing. I’m looking at buying an IAG Stage 2 short block for my FRS right now though and I have a JDL Turbo kit to go with it!

[@Smeedia]

Haha you good and sounds like you'd have a solid set up!

[@TheCarNerd2897]

Too much lol

[@Smeedia]

No regrets 😅😅😅

[@TheCarNerd2897]

@@Smeedia WWWW