How much money KISS paid Bob Kulick, real net worth, royalties

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@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

Guitarist Bob Kulick (Mitch Lafon, October 2019 interview) - kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5DPg5uCrKl8iZIsi=R9-zgwkJMxvrdfmE Bob Kulick (The Metal Voice, November 2019 interview) - kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKCbXnuviZqUqpYsi=8n4oQDa5CLaCYGtt

@adambilge2834 6 ай бұрын

Bob made the classic mistake of thinking he was "in the band" when he wasn't. He was a hired gun and was paid as a session player, and that's it.

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

It wasn't all about the money. Bob couldn't get the gig with KISS because Paul and Gene wanted a tall guy with long hair. Bob said that when he got the gig with Paul Stanley in 1989, his brother Bruce said, "What do you do? Are you trying to steal my gig?" And when Gene wanted Bob to play on his solo record, Paul said, "He played on mine! You can't use him on yours." Things like that... That's why Bob felt bitter and disrespected.

@EonSlumber 5 ай бұрын

F that. You are in a room making their lives easier, doing things they can’t do.

@rdgSWwot 5 ай бұрын

@@EonSlumberAnd sadly, he was not a member of the band. It’s that simple. Bob was a great musician. He did make their lives easier. That said, it’s the same as if I had argued about being in KISS. It simply was not based in truth.

@dagwood1969 5 ай бұрын

I think it’s a little different than that. Kulick didn’t understand what Paul and Gene understand all too well. Paul and Gene are not musicians, they are entertainers and they know it. They hired a musician the help out in the entertainment business called KISS. Kulick made the same mistake that WNBA players make. They think they are atheletes, when really they are entertainers. That’s why the men get paid more. They put more asses in the seats and sell more jerseys. If he was so fucking good, why didn’t he show up anywhere else? Gene and Paul are in the marketing business, it’s happenstance that a musical act is the vehicle.

@g3currie 5 ай бұрын

@@karsguitarchannel6088well KISS had a gimmick, you gotta look the look,he ain't the first one to not get on a band based on looks. I would assume he got paid to do all the stuff he did.

@guitarherocallahan3510 6 ай бұрын

Bob was a great guy! He helped Bruce a lot and worked very hard. He felt bitter because in the end he didn't have what he deserved for all his hard work. Thanks Kar, great upload!

@arm5080 6 ай бұрын

Met Bob once was more than happy to talk about his experience with KISS and other projects he was involved with.such a nice guy RIP

@yourguitarist 6 ай бұрын

You're not paid what you're worth...you're paid what you negotiate.

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

I think Paul paid Bob very well. $3600 in 1978 is worth about $18000 today. I think Bob wanted to work more with KISS and get more money but Paul and Gene were not interested. That's what made Bob bitter and disrespected.

@rabarebra 5 ай бұрын

@@karsguitarchannel6088 instead went with Vinnie Vincent. go figure

@rdgSWwot 5 ай бұрын

Well said. That applies to all of us.

@supernova3586 6 ай бұрын

Dude wasn't in KISS. He was a session guy that got paid as a session guy. That's how it works, which is why he agreed to it. It is all on Bob. He negotiated his own deal. He could only be mad at himself. There are certain session guys that basically played on everything. Dan Huff, Tim Pierce, Steve Lukather. Most people never even knew they were on the tracks.

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

@supernova3586 6 ай бұрын

@@karsguitarchannel6088 Who cares? He wasn't a band member. That is literally how the industry works. He literally said if he was worth 2.3million who wouldn't care about any of it. . That is the definition of all about the money.

@stevetrivago 6 ай бұрын

@@supernova3586 I always considered Kiss strictly entertainment because they couldn’t really play instruments

@HappyMachorino-bd8no 5 ай бұрын

@@stevetrivago ?Paul wrote his songs on his guitar🎸. He definitely could play instruments 🎸 write✍️songs AND sing them🎤 And his performance was show and entertainment.

@randalclarke5487 2 ай бұрын

Even Robben Ford played a lead on Creatures, I believe

@jimrussellmusic 6 ай бұрын

Bob's guitar work is amazing. It's what made Paul's solo record shine. The more I learn about the industry, the more I'm grateful that I never really got into it. I'd have gotten into some trouble if I'd been treated the way these amazing players I hear about were treated. RIP Bob Kulick

@tproudboomer5965 5 ай бұрын

While it’s obviously true you want to avoid being taken advantage of, if music’s in your blood you couldn’t imagine doing anything else for any amount of money.

@onusgumboot5565 6 ай бұрын

I'd rather have the money than respect from Gene and Paul. Why would I care about respect from people I don't respect?

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

@lukebandy516 6 ай бұрын

@karsguitarchannel6088 I really doubt that considering Vinnie Vincent is about 5'4" tall and wore a wig.

@HappyMachorino-bd8no 5 ай бұрын

But Bob liked and respected Paul and Gene. They knew each other long ago. And he even wanted to "give" them his little brother Bruce! Paul called Bob a friend in his book. Bob's problem was self made. He had no self respect. Therefore he FELT disrespected. He couldn't get acknowledgement enough. It has to do with their parents. Bruce didn't talk much about their childhood. But it's obvious that Bob's bitterness comes from somewhere deep down inside. Not from Paul and Gene.

@RiffMusic1970 6 ай бұрын

2:00 you don’t get royalties as a session player so he got paid exactly what he should have.

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

And Paul paid Bob very well. It was good money in 1978. $3,600 in 1978 is worth about $17,341 today.

@gener2842 6 ай бұрын

I knew Bob. He was a great person. And very honest.

@billmc62 6 ай бұрын

So every studio musician should get a free house and car and be paid millions? Get real people and understand the business before you let your emotions decide. He didn't write the songs. He was hired as a session player and got paid double scale. This is not unusual. Unfortunately, the average music fan is clueless about the business and thinks people's feelings should dictate how much someone gets paid.

@chrisoakley5830 6 ай бұрын

Good comment, I understand that many people might feel that Bob was done wrong, but if it hadn't been him playing on those tracks for Kiss, they would have simply hired another session player. We could debate about the fairness of it, but as you said, it was just the nature of the business. There was a famous session group back in the 60s called The Wrecking Crew that included Glen Campbell, they played on countless classic songs and albums, but garnered no fame from it and probably didn't get rich either.

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

@regaltip8A 5 ай бұрын

@@chrisoakley5830Actually Hal Blaine owned a Rolls Royce and Tommy Tedesco had a house with 11 rooms. They did very well.

@andyhayes7828 6 ай бұрын

All of Bob's guitar solo's with Kiss were great, he played for the song and TOTALLY kept the vibe. His solo's on "Ain't quite right" off of Paul Stanley's 1978 solo album are amazingly emotional, and are among some of my all time favorite. Rip Bob

@jimrussellmusic 6 ай бұрын

I agree, and the solo in "Take me Away" was also incredible.

@andyhayes7828 6 ай бұрын

@@jimrussellmusic 👍

@bobowrathsovine. 6 ай бұрын

Yeah that particular solo is the best thing about that whole album

@cryptoinvestorcryptoinvest5542 6 ай бұрын

@@bobowrathsovine. that entire solo album is great. Love Bob’s guitar work.

@HappyMachorino-bd8no 5 ай бұрын

For his🎸playing on Paul's solo album I will love Bob Kulick (RIP) forever. His 🎸is singing with Paul🎤(Together As One).

@AceGibson1959 6 ай бұрын

The song from AC/DC called 'it's a long way to the top (if you want to rock n roll) is pretty much what goes on in the industry.

@RickReese-fc6ck 6 ай бұрын

So he’s complaining they never ‘thanked him’?🤔 I’m thinking that if they thanked him instead of paying him then we would be hearing that story 🤨

@markmarsh27 6 ай бұрын

Simmons and Stanley RIPPED SOMEBODY OFF? Gee, what a shocker.

@33cattt49 6 ай бұрын

Jews

@superhuman6156 6 ай бұрын

@@33cattt49Terrible comment.

@33cattt49 6 ай бұрын

@@superhuman6156 you can say it’s terrible but you can’t say it’s a lie 😎

@daveb8449 6 ай бұрын

They didn't rip anyone off. They offered a wage,...Kulick didn't have to take it. But he did.

@chevy4x466 6 ай бұрын

@@daveb8449it’s called exploitation. I know what u r saying though

@jimroadhouse4872 6 ай бұрын

I worked at a hotel where kiss stayed gene and Paul had the suites Eric and Bruce had regular rooms

@rabarebra 5 ай бұрын

lol

@indymudshow 5 ай бұрын

Bob was always bitter that he wasnt in the band. It wasnt about respect, It was about notoriety and credit. He wanted it known so he could use it. Fun fact, Sweet victory also had eric singer on drums.

@57clc 6 ай бұрын

The lead work on “Larger Than Life” absolutely rips! Damn.

@seagullpoet 6 ай бұрын

I remember, as a kid, thinking Ace has finally stepped up ! What a shock - wasn’t Ace.

@lancecharley8822 6 ай бұрын

@@seagullpoet I read that it was Rick Derringer who played lead on Larger Than Life in their Behind The Mask book but it does sound more like Bob's playing it also said that Rick played the solo on their song Exciter which is on Lick It Up because Vinnie Vincent found it too difficult to play but these are just what I read i'm not sure if their facts or not to be honest, rock n roll history is alot of studying

@lancecharley8822 6 ай бұрын

@@seagullpoeti used to think it was Ace too playing the studio tracks on ALIVE II as well i didn't find out til i got a little older

@John-d8p1u 6 ай бұрын

Respect doesn’t pay the bills

@uweborsch1946 5 ай бұрын

Bob Kulick did not play on the album Bat Out Of Hell - he played some tours of that name, afaik.

@pythonflying 6 ай бұрын

If he would have got a 1% royalty on the Bat Out of Hell project alone he would have got his $3 million

@83marceloa 2 ай бұрын

But he never played on the album. Just the tour.

@BLD426 6 ай бұрын

That's like buying a stock & being upset that people made more buying at IPO.

@bobbywilson1132 6 ай бұрын

Bob was bitter, and had been for decades. You were a session guy. You got paid for your work. That's it. End of story. He was also bitter that he felt he was a better guitarist than Ace. Sorry Bob, Ace is Ace.

@mr.timebombman2230 6 ай бұрын

Technically Bob was better, but Ace has influenced a lot of people. His style fit the band more than anyone else that was in the band.

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

Bob couldn't get the gig with KISS because Paul and Gene wanted a tall guy with long hair. Bob said that when he got the gig with Paul Stanley in 1989, his brother Bruce said, "What do you do? Are you trying to steal my gig?" And when Gene wanted Bob to play on his solo record, Paul said, "He played on mine! You can't use him on yours." Things like that... That's why Bob felt bitter and disrespected.

@chevy4x466 6 ай бұрын

Session musicians are almost better than the label artists they r paid to support.

@vanderhoff66fu 5 ай бұрын

I Still Love Bob great guy great musician

@yourguitarist 6 ай бұрын

I looked up the personnel for Bat Out Of Hell and I am not seeing Bob's name. I am a pretty big fan of that record and this is the first time that I am hearing his name associated with it. Was he in the touring band for that tour?

@guitarherocallahan3510 6 ай бұрын

Yes Bob Kulick was a touring guitarist. Bob was primarly on lead/rhythm, his younger brother Bruce was on rhythm/lead. After Bob Kulick passed away, Meat Loaf thanked him for his great work on that tour.

@ShawnStaplesFreeGuitarLessons 6 ай бұрын

Love the photos Kar. Great story as well. Your video rocks!

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

Thanks so much Shawn, I appreciate!

@seagullpoet 6 ай бұрын

I saw Bob and Paul (Paul solo tour of clubs) - they were both great. So glad I saw that show.

@jamesdykes2968 6 ай бұрын

I just came across your channel Kar, great stuff, thankyou for posting.

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

Big thanks James, you are very welcome!

@joemars41 6 ай бұрын

What a shame for Bob. Talented musician and more . Thanks for keeping these truths real , as always ! All my best Kar , Joe .🇺🇸🎸

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

Big thanks Joe, I appreciate very much!! Have an awesome day

@kenijonesESQ 6 ай бұрын

Great episode Kar......man that sucks for Bob. It's a cut-throat industry.

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

Hi Ken, glad to see you! Have an awesome rocking weekend

@kenijonesESQ 6 ай бұрын

@@karsguitarchannel6088 you as well brother, cheers

@LuisDHern 6 ай бұрын

Bob was a studio musician/session player. He got paid a rate. I don’t know of any studio musicians/ session players that get royalties for the albums they played on. Ridiculous!

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

Bob told that when he got the gig with Paul Stanley in 1989, his brother Bruce said, "What do you do? Are you trying to steal my gig?" And when Gene wanted Bob to play on his solo record, Paul said, "He played on mine! You can't use him on yours." Things like that... That's why Bob felt bitter after

@HappyMachorino-bd8no 5 ай бұрын

Most likely Bob got royalties for his co-writing for "Naked City" on UNMASKED. A timeless beautiful song (RIP Bob Kulick🌹)

@sandytinky 6 ай бұрын

If you agree on a price, you weren't ripped off. Yes, Bob never won a Grammy. He got a Participation Certificate - not a Grammy.

@janiterinadrum1627 6 ай бұрын

To be fair $2.3 million and let’s say you’ve got 20 years of your life left. You ain’t moving to Hawaii on that kind of money. A house alone would be half of that and the rest would be going in two years… 2.3 million would be better spent in Florida on 5 acres in a trailer or maybe a condominium and budget your money

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

I think Bob knew that he had little time left to live. I think it was a dream to have a vacation in Hawaii. He could rent a modest bungalow and live there a couple of years happily and then maybe go back to Vegas and work.

@jefflanham1080 6 ай бұрын

What a great guitar player! The studio side of ALIVE 2 is some of their best stuff and his parts really shine!

@hoppes9658 6 ай бұрын

My love is larger than life.

@IBZRG8570 6 ай бұрын

Ya gotta love Ace but Bob’s work on Alive II is as good as anything they ever did. Larger Than Life just rips!!!

@j.reveille6815 6 ай бұрын

@@IBZRG8570 yeah but he was imitating Ace.

@IBZRG8570 6 ай бұрын

@@j.reveille6815 That’s true. In fact I’m pretty sure I read somewhere that he was told by Paul and/or Gene to play like Ace.

@entelikey1 6 ай бұрын

Anyone know which songs he worked on with Dio? It’s not on his Wiki.

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

Oh good question! As far as I remember he produced the cover of 'Dream On' performed by Dio and Yngwie Malmsteen. Please correct me if I'm wrong

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

Yes I think it's correct. In 1999, Ronnie James Dio, Yngwie Malmsteen, Stu Hamm, Gregg Bissonette and Paul Taylor covered the song for the Aerosmith tribute album Not the Same Old Song and Dance. Additional guitars were by the album's producers Bob Kulick and Bruce Bouillet. Bob produced the album.

@entelikey1 6 ай бұрын

@@karsguitarchannel6088 Wow, the power of you tube. Thank you all for your replies. I will re listen to that song. I like to think that Ronnie was a nicer guy to work with. ..Born on the Sun 🌞 he was..

@LEIFanevret 6 ай бұрын

Great solos! On paulies solo album

@kevincampbell9526 6 ай бұрын

His longtime lover, Stella Stevens, passed away a few years ago.

@jamesjames2070 6 ай бұрын

She was beautiful

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

Yes there's a great interview on youtube where Bob's brother Bruce tells about their relationship.

@1974ADHDer 6 ай бұрын

Bob had nothing to do with the Bat Out Of Hell album, he did however perform most of the guitar work on the Bad Attitude album. So this Meat Loaf "quote" is a falsified one.

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

Meat Loaf needed a touring band to tour the 'Bat out of Hell' album. Bob Kulick got the gig as a touring guitarist. Bob was primarly on lead/rhythm, his younger brother Bruce was on rhythm/lead. It was 1978. After Bob Kulcik passed away, Meat Loaf thanked him for his hard work on that tour to promote the album.

@DoncampbellUSMC 6 ай бұрын

What does Chris Robinson ,Black Crowes pay their new Guitarist?

@kingkrollinvention 6 ай бұрын

I like this guy, but if you agreed to the terms, you did not get ripped off. It's easy to look back after something has quadrupled in sales and say I got ripped off. Maybe should have asked for a point or two on the record, that way you would be seen residuals till this day

@gmoneyrockstar4913 6 ай бұрын

As great as the Larger than life solo was/is, Ace's Rocket ride solo on that 4th album side said it all. Plus he wrote it, sang it & killed the solo. Ace can't be knocked during those peak years...

@j.reveille6815 6 ай бұрын

Yep and but as I said before bob was imitating Ace as well but he def killed it and I love that solo.

@gmoneyrockstar4913 6 ай бұрын

@@j.reveille6815 I was very disappointed when I heard Ace didn't play the LTL solo, such a great solo. I always liked Bob and his contributions were on point too. The smirky remark to Ace never sounding better came off a bit arrogant but then again Ace was the one asleep lol. Soooo, 2 great solos on that side 4. Ace though, could roll off the couch and come up with the most coolest and memorable solos.

@scottwhite2757 6 ай бұрын

Great pic's Have a Rocking Great Day Kar !!!

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

Big thanks Scott, glad to see you! Have an awesome rocking day you too

@shakeyourguitartutorials 6 ай бұрын

Very good interesting video Karen! All this money , he did not see!!!! Life of rocknroll, stars don't make as much as we think !!! Lack of respect , hard to swallow!! Well this story was all interesting .Great photos too!

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

Hi Christophe, glad to see you! It wasn't all about the money. Bob couldn't get the gig with KISS because Paul and Gene wanted a tall guy with long hair. Bob said that when he got the gig with Paul Stanley in 1989, his brother Bruce said, "What do you do? Are you trying to steal my gig?" And when Gene wanted Bob to play on his solo record, Paul said, "He played on mine! You can't use him on yours." Things like that... That's why Bob felt bitter and disrespected.

@shakeyourguitartutorials 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the precisions !!

@rirchardrubio5621 6 ай бұрын

At first Bob auditioned for Kiss before Ace. Paul said he was really good. So why did they not hire him? I think it was because of his loosing his Hair. I know that was one of the big reasons.

@HappyMachorino-bd8no 5 ай бұрын

There is a story, Ace said to all the other auditioners: "I'm the new guitarist. You all can go home"😂

@rnt77 5 ай бұрын

exactly correct. unfortunately his baldness was a MAJOR factor

@colinrgage 6 ай бұрын

Tbh whatever he was paid must've been agreed to beforehand

@MrMichaelbsmith6420 4 ай бұрын

Bob did alot not just with KISS but others he really never got the recognition he deserved right up until his passing

@mrsmith7939 6 ай бұрын

Not heard most of the stuff mentioned here but from other projects the name Kulick = quality.

@tommarshall54 6 ай бұрын

He was a session player on a handful of b-side songs that no one knows.

@stormbringercoming8105 6 ай бұрын

Bob knew how the business works. Your only get paid as much as your employer has to. Playing with KISS (and other high profile performers) alone is a form of currency towards your next gig. Doing great work for top notch musicians DOES open doors in most cases. Think about The WRECKING Crew, those guys played on thousands of hit songs. If they would’ve gotten royalties, the music business would’ve been bankrupt ages ago. His argument are the words of a bitter man. Sad.

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

@JohnnyReno71 6 ай бұрын

If he doesn’t like how’s he being treated he could’ve left. It’s his own fault… did he ever try out for a band or start his own.

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

Yes Bob played in other bands and produced records. I think Bob felt bitter and disrespected because he wanted to do more work with KISS and get some decent money but Paul and Gene were not interested. That was the problem.

@lucyfuir6386 6 ай бұрын

Bob had a distinct look I think him and Tony Levin could have had a great band.

@peterdiamantakiou 6 ай бұрын

Bob was a very good guitarist and he accomplished alot in his career of music, composing, recording, writing etc and i do truly believe he was ripped off especially by Paul and Gene. He was a Facebook friend of mine i saw alot of his posts towards the end he was getting shafted left,right and centre..RIP Bob 🙏

@HappyMachorino-bd8no 5 ай бұрын

Did Carmine Appice complain that he was "underpaid"? No, in his recent interview he told how he was tired, had a jetlag. But he still wanted to play on Paul's solo-album. They were friends. Paul made them famous. And "started" or helped their careers. That's what counts.

@mr.timebombman2230 6 ай бұрын

Bob liked to reiterate multiple times in every interview about being a Grammy award winning producer. He's now telling every soul that'll listen in the afterlife about it.

@luchagain3424 6 ай бұрын

These videos are ridiculous. These artists signed contracts and agreed to the payment. Whether that be a one time fee or points. Or anything in between. I do not feel bad for any of these guys who cry that they only got paid X amount of dollars and then their work goes on to generate millions and millions. Stop blaming other people when you agreed to the terms.

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

@shawnstarks1743 5 ай бұрын

You ever notice how all these ruthless people have long lives. (Makes you wonder)

@evileyes4070 5 ай бұрын

Bob involved in some good WASP tracks

@JClaus1221 6 ай бұрын

If you are a session man, you get paid scale and that is it. Even if you contribute to a tune, create a lead, it makes no difference. Very seldom have players been credited on records, PIR was one of the few that did this, and Gamble and Huff never had to do it, they just did. If the Wrecking Crew members had gotten songwriting credits on tunes they played on, they all would have been billionaires. The absolute worst offender of screwing your players was James Brown. He put his name on everything, alone (except with Bobby Byrd who wouldn't put up with the practice), even if the band completely came up with the groove, the licks and the lines made no difference. Everything was written and produced by James Brown. That was and is the business, if you don't have it in writing and only work with knowledge your get equal part you are screwed.

@rufmixaudio8646 5 ай бұрын

Love Bob’s contributions to KISS. The problem for Bob is that he didn’t write with the band, so of course there wouldn’t be royalties. Session players are paid for their performance in the studio by the hour or for a flat fee.

@gnarshred1239 5 ай бұрын

Would love to see a video breaking down with Bruce kulick

@Donaldwpierce 6 ай бұрын

Sounds like he did not know any attorneys

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

Bob said he met an attorney (a music guy) in Vegas in 2019. He said he was gonna represent him on some cases.

@HappyMachorino-bd8no 5 ай бұрын

@@karsguitarchannel6088 But was this attorney realistic? That's the question. Vinnie Vincent lost 14 lawsuits. In his EXPO talk he was full of self-pity. All the judges said: "F*ck you, Vinnie!"

@teresasilverlight2759 5 ай бұрын

look how taylor swift treats her people

@danielh1830 5 ай бұрын

Did Bob "play" on the record, or did he write any of the licks or guitar parts? He should only get royalties if he has earned publish rights, but if he was playing what someone else wrote, then he is not entitled to publishing rights.

@pb12661 6 ай бұрын

session guys didn't/don't write the songs. so, they aren't entitled to royalties. He knew that going in...any session player knows that........He should have focused on song writing if he wanted to make the big money. and then, how ironic it was that it was his brother who made good money with Kiss and became a member. lol Sorry, but he was just a bitter guy. Kiss didn't owe him anything. JMTC

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

I think Bob was a great guy. He was very sociable, he knew people, had connections. I think Bob supported his younger brother Bruce, he pushed him and helped him a lot to make a career in the music business. He was a touring guitarist in Meat Loaf and Bruce was with him. Bob was friends with Paul and Gene and that's how Bruce got in KISS. Bob told them to get his younger brother in the band. Without Bob, it would have been somebody else, not Bruce. So I think Bob did a lot to his brother Bruce and tried really hard make something big and he did. And he felt bitter because in the end he didn't have what he deserved for all his hard work.

@vincentgarzoli3197 6 ай бұрын

Royalties come in different forms. The kind of royalty he could have received from his recorded work with KISS, or any other artist is called a Mechsnical Royalty. This is the same form of royalty performers get when they record a cover tune. Now, whether or not he would actually get paid a mechanical royalty us contingent on having a contract that specifies so. Do you think that Paul and Gene would have signed that contract, if they could get Bob to play for scale only? I suspect the answer is no. Also, Robben Ford and others pinch hit for Ace during that period, and I have never heard any of them complain about only receiving scale without mechanicals.

@Kirkvanhouten55 6 ай бұрын

session guys don't get royalties unless they have a writing credit

@HappyMachorino-bd8no 5 ай бұрын

But Bob has a co-writing credit on UNMASKED for "Naked City". An awesome song! And he is credited for playing additional guitar.

@KevinDick-h6f 5 ай бұрын

This presentation is nothing new . Just another known fact since music that was first put on wax cylinders . As a whole the industry of entertainment is shady . Unless you are a music business college graduate the loop holes are like swiss cheese . It is very normal to get screwed with out seeing it coming .

@LEIFanevret 6 ай бұрын

Ego fame and money runs over honesty! Nasty business! Dont matter what line of work you got in this world very few exceptions! If any

@grantmorrey5138 3 ай бұрын

When one agrees to do a job for a price, a deal is a deal. Success of said work is not guaranteed...

@lanatrzczka 5 ай бұрын

I've always thought that Bob played A+ level guitar on D minus material, at least where KISS is concerned.

@joejohnston2035 6 ай бұрын

2.3 million wouldn't buy a house in Hawaii

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

Maybe he could rent something modest

@eliphaslevi520 5 ай бұрын

Kiss literally broke his heart

@Triple3hot 6 ай бұрын

He was hired for tasks and paid. Business transactions, nothing different than hiring a plumber

@guitarherocallahan3510 6 ай бұрын

RIP Bob Kulick!

@insin5905 6 ай бұрын

Great video. Bob was a great talent. I love Paul but he is one of the meanest, obsessive and miserable people in rock and roll. He really needs help.

@PrinceofPain-wv1lo 6 ай бұрын

Paul has been in perpetual therapy since 15

@HappyMachorino-bd8no 5 ай бұрын

Why did Vinnie Vincent then adore Paul? "He is really, a really extremely kind soul". And: "I love him" (EXPO talks Part I and Part II). Paul knew about his "dark" side and tried to get help at the age of 16. He went to a clinic. I really admire his intelligence. At a Soundcheck last year he even told the audience: when you have depressions ask for professional help. It's not fair to blame Paul for other people's difficulties in their lifes and careers.

@pf100andahalf 6 ай бұрын

Kar's is the best rock story channel without being sensationalist. Kar is the real deal.

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

Big thanks, I appreciate very much!!

@zebdoz333 6 ай бұрын

Sounds like it’s a good idea not to do business with Kiss , or Simmons and Stanley huh

@HappyMachorino-bd8no 5 ай бұрын

On the other hand it's the music he made with KISS what made him immortal. (RIP) Bob Kulick🌹 And Paul's solo album. I didn't even know, that he was touring with "Meat Loaf". But I love his KISS work🎸.

@Jeffrey-hk4fq 6 ай бұрын

🤔What about the artist who designed the Rolling Stones logo 💋👅$300(?)

@berniecasey7592 4 ай бұрын

Im glad the Truth got out Gene & Paul are cheap bums with egos.

@mde7887 21 күн бұрын

Bob never won a Grammy. Motörhead gave him an honorary trophy when they won for Best Metal Performance.

@lancecharley8822 6 ай бұрын

I know I heard the narrator mention W.A.S.P. and I'm surprised to not hear about his involvement maybe Blackie Lawless had something against him I don't know about that to be honest but hearing his involvement with Meatloaf very new to me and very interesting I love Bat Out Of Hell as well too

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

Yes Bob was in the touring band in Meat Loaf. Bob played lead/rhythm and his brother Bruce was with him. Bruce played rhythm/lead on that tour.

@bigtorrisi 5 ай бұрын

This story is as hold as the hills. A session man is pissed off he doesn't get any "royalties", that's the gig dude, you're paid up front. If a builder builds your house, then you sell it, he doesn't get a cut of the profits does he, he's already been paid.

@stanlee-eq7lu 5 ай бұрын

Bob was a really good musician and very diverse in his talents. Being he knew KISS for a long time, he should have known had Paul and Gene open their wallets, moths would come out.

@JohnLesniewski-np7jg 5 ай бұрын

Bob played on those KISS albums because Ace sadly couldn't or didn't want to show up. So he bailed them out but keep it hush hush. Paul never said anything when Bob passed away.

@daveb8449 6 ай бұрын

If he didn't like the wage, he shouldn't have worked for them.

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

Paul paid Bob very well. It was good money in 1978. $3,600 in 1978 is worth about $17,341 today. I think Bob felt bitter and disrespected because he wanted to do more work with KISS and get some decent money but Paul and Gene were not interested. That was the problem.

@trollsandfools 5 ай бұрын

I met Bob a few years back and I have to say, he's a stand-up guy. I full heartedly feel sad for him because as a musician, he was really never in a band of his own. He was a hired gun/session player. Did Gene and Paul rip him off? Of course they did, they ripped a lot of people off. This happens in the music business a lot. I had a couple of friends who were publicist in L.A., in the 90's. They would tell me these horrid stories that he heard from the bands themselves. It's a cutthroat business. Touring, royalties, and publishing rights and producing is where the money is. If you don't negotiate that clause in the contract before work, you're screwed, at the same time, a band will just find someone else to work with.

@hsdrummer1 6 ай бұрын

When you’re a session musician you don’t make royalties unless you wrote the song.

@delian1671 5 ай бұрын

I really like Bob’s work. He’s an underrated contributor to the KISS legacy. That said, his bashing of Ace and bitterness was always unbecoming. He was always in Frehley’s shadow. Were his solos on Alive 2 great? Yeah.. but Ace’s Rocket Ride was the best song on that side 4. The solo was outstanding. Did Bob do a great job with Paul’s solo album? For sure. Was the album better than Ace’s? Nope

@tyeedwrds 5 ай бұрын

As a hired gun, what was he supposed to be paid? Not the same as the band members, song writers or producers! A session player, gets scale, confirmed by his own words here. And he said he was paid double scale. If he had written the songs or produced them, maybe he'd have an argument. As for royalties, again he didn't write or publish the material! He was paid to play in the studio, he did and got paid! Being bitter about unrealistic expectations, is a personal issue. As for the "End of the Road" since when is it his choice whom would get to be producer? It's the property of KISS and under their control. Are Paul and Gene angels, probably not, but what did they actually owe him? Elton John, had someone who was a long term sound man, he rewarded him for always being there. Bob, was an at will employee at best! He was paid when he was employed and not when he wasn't! I loved Bobs' work on the KISS material, but he wasn't really a part of the band. In the end, he was envious of Bruce and even had issues with him. Further proving, it was his issues, no one else to blame. If he wanted more, he should have negotiated better!

@JoeyP322 6 ай бұрын

They should’ve hired Bob instead of Ace.

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

As far as I know Bob couldn't get the gig because Paul and Gene wanted a tall guy with long hair.

@JeffTullock-yx1hd 6 ай бұрын

Just stop.

@HappyMachorino-bd8no 5 ай бұрын

Paul wrote he knew from the beginning that Ace was the one. The🎸 sound. And ACE HAD AURA.

@MrOccyc 5 ай бұрын

Not for nothing, you’re not signing a contract to guarantee royalties? What’s wrong with you?

@PanosArvanitis 6 ай бұрын

Simmons and Stanley ,typical Jews.Money is their God.As always.

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

@HappyMachorino-bd8no 5 ай бұрын

You're missing the point. Bob and Bruce are/were fellow Jews. Therefore anti-Semitic strereo types are absurd. Bob's bitterness comes from his jealousy. He wanted to be bigger in KISS than his little brother. When he said his favourite guitarist in KISS was a studio guy, he humiliated not only Ace, he wanted to hurt Bruce. Bob was so bitter and aggressive, that Bruce had to get a restraining order against his own brother.

@mottosierra1372 19 күн бұрын

He's the real ace frehley

@SuperFlanders123 6 ай бұрын

Same old shit KISS-----> BUSINESS...

@dannyholloway2007 5 ай бұрын

I have to agree with some other comments. The fact that Bob did not get royalties on his work is his fault. If you really love music, then you have to respect and understand the business side. You can create your own publishing in this country with next to nothing and most people do not realize it. I love music too. I will definitely always have the rights to my own work and my lawyer close by. That is just how the world works.

@HappyMachorino-bd8no 5 ай бұрын

Bob Kulick🌹RIP had no self-respect. That's why he felt disrespected. The reason must be in his childhood. KISS definitely helped him with his career🎸. But God gave aura to Ace. Not to Bob. No one is to blame.

@Acejustforalaugh 5 ай бұрын

Everybody gets mistreated by Paul and Gene !!

@danielhill4446 5 ай бұрын

Bob should have negotiated a better payday. Sad to say it but a wig would have got him in the band!

@flazjsg 6 ай бұрын

Heard him on Eddie Trunk. He was pretty arrogant. "Ace Frehley plays like the sloppy Jimmy Page, I play like the cleaner Jimmy Page." He said something to that effect. You guys should try to play like yourselves is what I'd tell them! People like Elton John and Taylor Swift with their generosity are the exception, not the rule to the music business. Too bad that Bob died so young.

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

@HappyMachorino-bd8no 5 ай бұрын

Bob (RIP) must have lost touch with reality. Elton John's sound manager was NOT a session guy! His senseless comparison is an alarming symptom that something went wrong with Bob. He was very frightening in his last interviews.

@lazarethneptune6969 6 ай бұрын

DUDE!!!! Larger than life is of of my fav kiss songs!!! I would always say "ACE KILLED THAT SOLO!" Then I found out it was Bruce. My attitude toward Ace as a great soloist has changed Now that it's out he would never show up to record!!! THAT'S FUCKING SAD!!!!

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

Awesome! however it wasn't Bruce on the record, it was Bob

@iceWaterProductions1 6 ай бұрын

Respect from low life ghouls like these people equals squat to me, I’ll take the money. Even better than that I want publishing credits that’s where the real money never stops by checks for sales and broadcasts.

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

I think Paul paid Bob very well. It was good money in 1978. $3,600 in 1978 is worth about $17,341 today. I think Bob felt bitter and disrespected because he wanted to do more work with KISS and get some decent money but Paul and Gene were not interested. That was the problem.

@paulthomasbranda7591 5 ай бұрын

My high school friend plays for major 80’s acts and still sleeps on his Mother’s couch. They dont make much and rent must be paid while you are the road!!!!

@richbranch9013 6 ай бұрын

Well they did offer him the job to play with KISS. But Bob recommended his brother Bruce. So what was Bob bitching about. They offered him the keys to the car and Bob turned them down.

@karsguitarchannel6088 6 ай бұрын

I'm not sure if they offered Bob the gig. Paul and Gene wanted a tall guy with long hair as far as I know. Bob told that when he got the gig with Paul Stanley in 1989, his brother Bruce said, "What do you do? Are you trying to steal my gig?" And when Gene wanted Bob to play on his solo record, Paul said, "He played on mine! You can't use him on yours." Things like that... That's why Bob felt bitter after.

@HappyMachorino-bd8no 5 ай бұрын

As far as I remember Paul's book, he called Bob. But he didn't say, he offered him the job. Paul called Bob his "friend". And asked him for advice.