How Much To Charge When Starting Out

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[@pamelah6431]

"Yeah, but..." best quote. 😆

[@ThBlueSalamander]

Yep

[@promiseguy02]

😅

[@cmonster67]

Anyone else see a pattern of these video shorts of ending right after the person saying "But..." Nothing against Chris' advice, I just think it's damn funny.

[@sooperman05]

Hahhahaha the cut is a perfect loop

[@erikcruz5354]

A lot of other creators have been doing this now. I wonder who came up with this idea loop? I like it

[@BECK_4D]

@@erikcruz5354never though about that but it was a genius move

[@filmkreation]

Yeah, but.. [CUT] 😂 Great advice as always!

[@sipgod3053]

😂😂😂

[@promiseguy02]

😅

[@johnhudson5969]

This guy provides some great insight on the business side of things in a straightforward manner.

[@talyahr3302]

For all the talk he does about never negotiating your price, this is refreshing

[@thefutur]

Btw, I don’t tell people never to negotiate. Just not to underprice.

[@elgrau]

A lot of people need a big wake up call thinking they can just go out on their own and run a business. If this is a question you have to ask, you don't have the experience or confidence to do it on your own. And that's all okay. Slow down, hone your skills and become an assassin. THEN go out and crush the game. Chris with the fire as always.

[@TruthSerumMedia]

This information is priceless 🙌

[@_Kroaken_]

I love his hat.

[@Keveta13]

rule of thumb that i use is charge one and a half times my monthly living allowance..... but... you adjust price based on what problem you are solving for the client...but...

[@firejaw6459]

Charge 1.5 times your monthly living costs for each job? What do you do? How are you doing, 2 years on?

[@BillyOnYouTube]

I am loving the "Yeah. But..." endings! I love seeing the video in a perfect loop. I was confused at first and I'm seeing some people in the comments express their confusion as well. Maybe it would be better to record "Yeah. But (question)" at the very beginning of the clip and have Chris ask if the advice makes sense at the very end. The video would still loop seemlessly but it wouldn't cut out at the very end and leave some people confused whether or not there is more to the video that they missed out on.

[@thefutur]

Yeah. It was shot that way.

[@thefutur]

We should change the edit.

[@jatz0r173]

Im glad you like it. Its jarring and makes me think he didn't even listen to a word he said

[@dipeshpatel4391]

Thank you for your content

[@thefutur]

My pleasure!

[@graphicsbox3043]

Whether u r starting or experienced i always believe your portfolio and number of followers on social media will have huge rule in deciding what to charge , if you really have a good understanding of just good vs great designs you will charge what you are worth finally , its all about self confidence and your personal / past work that should make client think this guy is worth more

[@thefutur]

being good is required. it's all the other stuff you need to do to stand out that will make the difference.

[@mediaiweb]

@@feralmode agreed i dont care about that can u do my work properly to my taste in my eyes is what i'm concerned about.

[@TheNefari]

the playlist will be called "Yeah But" :D

[@AFHG-GiftsAndTalents]

God is The Designer, Architect, Doctor, Lawyer, Saviour, He gave every human a little bit of Him

[@Michelle-qq4sd]

Work that makes you feel happy and fulfilled.

[@aduibar4595]

Great advice

[@nimeshkumar9564]

This is something that I was looking for thankyou so much Chris Do

[@lucidcannibal]

Futur's comment replies will be on fire yo!

[@facelessshadow92]

Love the hat!

[@thefutur]

Godisadesigner.Com

[@bdv6083]

Would love to watch the full version of this. What is it?

[@thefutur]

we recorded this specifically for the short. there's no long video form yet.

[@beforestartingabusiness]

Literally just used Chris's advice on negotiating/NOT NEGOTIATING on my price and made a few extra Thousands...thank you Chris. You'll be seeing me in your membership classes in theFutur😅 fr tho

[@massterrbarber]

Great Advice ❤ genius

[@thefutur]

Glad you think so!

[@1982oldschool]

I like his style advice without being condescending

[@geewiz8253]

Can we just have a “Yeah, but” short series? 😂 I laugh but I’m quite serious 😆 👍

[@WillHinson]

CHRIS PULLING OUT THE SHADES ON SET OK BIG DAWG

[@joaolopes5964]

i think it is the second video i saw that ended with "but". kinda funny xD

[@jordanbronner3752]

God is a designer… new sub ! 🙏

[@thefutur]

Welcome!

[@1982oldschool]

Cool stuff

[@Joehirst]

When you're getting started, working IS the compensation. Work, learn, grow, repeat. Then, get paid for it, repeat. If there's anyone new here looking for an actual price - I promise you if you get fixated on how much to charge, that process and mindset will consume you. Just take in the project, get the experience, worry about your growth first.

[@ShatteredF1re7733]

Why do people think they are skilled at something because they went to school for it. Going to school means you just completed your junior cubs apprenticeship, it paid so little that you paid them ALOT. Why don't people see school as the first step in 100 to becoming successful. I do more work at 33 years old in one week than I used to do in a semester of school. That was actually one of my biggest difficulties. What used to take a 6 month semester to complete. I can now complete in 6 days. I used to ask for 6 months to work on one project. Now I ask for 6 days.

[@SSTricky]

I think the problem is we're told school is the end all be all, especially by our parents and teachers. Everyone drills it into you about the importance of school. They even imply, sometimes outright say, you'll be making the big bucks "once you finish school". There needs to be more discussions on the importance of experience especially during high school. That's just my 2 cents.

[@suryakantapradhan6935]

This is very informative and I really love this as a beginner brand designer I always worried that how can I get client because I don't have any experience, so I ask Google and charge GPT how can I get client without experience also I almost forget to add that is I have mock portfolio of work which is real mock project but still I am worried that how can I get client by showcasing mock project anyway after watching multiple videos of yours and I get the repeated one answer which is showcase your 5-6 project whether it real life of mock after that I get client at least one. Thank you

[@Icanmakecrochetshoes]

God is a designer ❤❤❤❤

[@268NA_Impreza]

When popular people are glasses in interviews, makes me feel they are stoned

[@Flascoexp]

My understanding to the "but" endings are that no matter the advice there will always be disagreements to follow. At the end of the day its just a good recommendation.

[@thefutur]

good guess. it's actually just to make the videos loop seamlessly.

[@YoutiaoVlogs]

@@thefutur putting it on endless loop to drill it in

[@scottwallacejr]

Try ... although or with that being said

[@danishchief1078]

Where is the full video?

[@thefutur]

This is it. We just shoot a short.

[@danishchief1078]

Aww that's sad, I wanted more...

[@massterrbarber]

Alot searching for the 🦉 eyes 👀 and I’m just wondering 🤔 if those glasses 👓 are capable of seeing the future ?? Your actually teaching me right now for free and ❤ it your videos are amazing 🤩 Thank you for sharing your knowledge and your ways of thinking 💭 and connecting the dots with a whole company is just so inspiring I want to be more like you what do you think about this ??

[@thefutur]

my pleasure

[@KennyGsca]

LOVE these short Videos, I just think personally it looses some of the "Magic" with the [ BUT] not cut at the end of the clip. This is the 2nd video where a "But" is clipping the last secs of the video. Just my opinion.

[@chrisamosa507]

For the loop my g

[@Jason_Greenwood]

Who is this guy? I’ve never heard of him before but he’s epic. 💪

[@thefutur]

hi Jason. my name is Chris Do.

[@iamalexwolf]

Chris Do is a straight up legend

[@jasongreenwood2248]

@@thefutur thanks Chris! I Googled it and figured that out thanks. Loving your content - subscribed.

[@remigiochilaule1961]

Which rock you been living under? 😅😅

[@dodifferent_co]

@@thefutur I think he's talking about me Chris 😉

[@moldypancakes4973]

Chris “Does that work for you” Do

[@kasforai]

Charge for what you bring to the table.

[@AhmedMohamed-qm4wd]

Just starting to realise the ‘yeah, but’…. 😆

[@auomauom]

but... "I'm broke and I don't want to do work for free forever."

[@nick4556]

Then don't work for free

[@auomauom]

@@nick4556 but...

[@milanbeemotivates6788]

😂 😂 😂

[@nick4556]

@@auomauom But what??

[@vusitsepo1962]

1. You're broke and your for free for a while. You build your CV... And experience while you increase your chances of getting paid. 2. You're broke and don't work for free... And remain broke

[@SayGi-n3k]

Starting ending things outta the X pieriance hired to perhaps keep away to surpass specialist in or demonations x ploring stage of trauma or given the cost of error

[@GreenDimka1]

Ok, I'm watching this interview for 15 minutes straight already. And I have a feeling that this guy is not very clever. He keeps asking the same question. The Futur is very patient though.

[@landunlocked2423]

Dude that hat!

[@AcesizOfficial]

🙌🏽🇬🇧

[@TheDONKEYKONGY]

What’s with the glasses!?

[@xavandres]

OKAY, BUT what if I'm a self-taught graphic designer, and obviously NOT the best out there? This is from a super-talented perspective, which makes the argument so easy to handle...

[@UTJK.]

If you are uncomfortable making a price, I think that the best way to choose a rate when you start, is to track yourself doing a portfolio project. See how many hours it takes for you to complete it (don't forget to add research and analysis time). Then decide which is your ideal hour rate, which is the minimum comfortable hour rate for you to work, multiply the latter number (or an average between the two) for the hours needed to make it and you have a price. Tell the customer it is discounted because you just start and want to reward him/her for being the first. Always specify the real value of the project they are buying. Remember to ask 25% or 50% in advance. Repeat with a couple of clients. You'll discover immediately that you'll want to raise your prices, as you will see the clients will bother you with problems to solve or unnecessary changes that will make you lose a lot of time. Moreover if something is paid more, is perceived more worthy. After this little experience with hourly rates, you should be enough confident you could sell a service, so you could start modeling your prices based on the value you provide.

[@xavandres]

@@UTJK. This is not only advice but more like a roadmap you just provided, thank you very much! I'll legit apply this and see what happens! Oh, and I've worked on some fake projects, but never tracked the time it took me to complete them, I guess I'll have to make another one or figure that out in the other way haha anyways, thank you for taking the time, really appreciate it!!

[@salihaadan4071]

Then get yourself at that super-talented level. You can do sample projects using sites like fakeclients etc. It will also help build your portfolio, and you can also have creative freedom since you would not be under pressure of deadlines or clients.. I know I am here after 2 years, commenting but I hope it will help somebody else

[@salihaadan4071]

One advice, from Sir Imran Ali Dina (GFX Mentor), every night before sleeping, take an artwork that you like, that you are impressed by and observe, what is making that artwork good? What are you liking about it?

[@xavandres]

@@salihaadan4071 after 2 years but definitely helpful, thanks man

[@alabastob]

no sound???

[@milanbeemotivates6788]

🤔 Isn't it possible to get paid while learning?

[@thefutur]

Yes. We learn all the time. But you get paid to do a job.

[@borihenna2014]

yeah most of my past jobs i got paid to do jobs i was learning to do. these were pretty serious jobs too. but i’m a lucky one and take every opportunity i can get.

[@antoniorobateau]

“Fake it ‘till you make it” is faster but riskier as your client would likely have more to lose than you.🤔

[@Ryo06150]

Infinity loop

[@LucasRave]

And do fictitious but well done case studies count?

[@thefutur]

Yes. They count.

[@zakk5855]

Could you elaborate?

[@LucasRave]

@@zakk5855 Well, in this video Chris talks about doing our first jobs for free in order to complete our portfolio, my question was if it is valid to complete it with fictitious projects.

[@ThouArtOfWar0724]

"Yeah but". There is no but take the advice or leave it. No one is hiring someone who has no proof they can do the work

[@SonuMathewNinan]

No but in the ending Hmmmm interesting 🤔

[@AyushPattnaik]

Which ep is this short from?

[@thefutur]

It’s a new short.

[@ridazafarjanjua7854]

@@thefutur When are you going to upload the full video?

[@vortex6642]

There's a huge difference between Education and Intelligence.

[@thefutur]

yes, and?

[@ayansheik6224]

Not fan! I’m addicted to this guy!

[@redbulletgamming876]

sometimes you can't look on the money you make when you starting out

[@MikeXKun]

Everybody here is making fun of the video being cut after "yeah,but", while if you pay a little more attention you'll notice that it makes a perfect loop of the conversation they have 😃😃😃

[@iamalexwolf]

You can’t leave us with a cliffhanger.. but what?

[@systemrecords9708]

Of course this is true. You don't start at the top. If your only credibility is that you went to school and got a degree, you are not in any position to dictate your rate. Instead try to find an opportunity to let you get more real experience under your belt. Now if you already have the exoerimece, then you can start thinking about setting the rate.

[@suslik3234]

yeah but... *notification pops up* PAY 79$ TO CONTINUE

[@thefutur]

nah.

[@creativeraven2222]

I like that these seem shot to loop. Listening twice brings it all together.

[@thefutur]

It was shot to loop.

[@creativeraven2222]

@@thefutur That makes sense. Many in the comments sections haven't seem to have gotten it. Thanks for the clarification. :-)

[@christopherworthington7000]

Does he have turrets...will that work for you...in every video

[@mrdayydayy]

Id never trust a man wearing sunglasses inside

[@thefutur]

Okay.

[@xavandres]

😂

[@BillyOnYouTube]

What if he's a blind wise man? 🤣

[@johnydeadboy]

3-6 projects translation 3-6 years lol

[@chenlo18]

Wait. Is that a robot.?

[@thefutur]

Beep. Bop.

[@MJ_77721]

What is the name of the guy on Insta?

[@sandrinjoy]

yea , but...

[@tvinenko5284]

Chris looks expencive$$)

[@thefutur]

Haha. I am. ;)

[@MichaelFreechild]

but...?

[@dappe8822]

if you play it back, it’s actually just an interesting way of making a loop

[@ig11_21]

“But”

[@Ajones985]

I design logos for hats 🧢

[@hectorastudillo2295]

Whos diss!?????

[@arabepsycho232]

Still no answer.

[@milindafoxx]

but

[@shadow9as]

But.... I want money now !!!!! haha isnt obvious ?

[@williamsodudigbo7348]

Gain experience and mentorship

[@Z3nHolEminD]

Ends with a but

[@anowhouston]

Yikes, this felt unnatural lol. Valuable words to some people though

[@thefutur]

What made this feel unnatural?

[@anowhouston]

@@thefutur i can tell the guy on the right was just saying his lines. I could see the wheels turning as he tries to recall the correct response, and i could also hear it in his tone. I just wanted to leave it at “felt unnatural” Because who cares if its scripted. Just something i noticed. I would be shocked to learn that this is an excerpt from a longer form interview or discussion. But from what i felt, id bet this clip is a standalone clip. NOT THAT THERES ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT. Lol but you asked 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@florenthemepineda4114]

like the 🧢

[@ShafikKhan-zq8kn]

He's asking the most valuable question that 'How can I come with my rate?'. And this hat man couldn't tell him. Why? Do you really have to evaluate your college degree or the costumes you wear but simply calculating your current living expenditure and convert from monthly expenditures into daily and hourly you will come up with your rate. Add 25% mark up on the top. Simple.

[@nubscrub]

Sorry but this "hat man" provided better advice than what you wrote by far. Whether doing market research, or using a formula to come up with a number, that's simple. What he's guiding him above research is on building 1) portfolio (confidence of customer 2) himself (confidence to command said amount). Most people asking the same question aren't getting customers even after doing cost calculations. By the way +25% is a joke, this is why many don't grow their business to its potential.

[@milanbeemotivates6788]

🤔 Isn't it possible to get paid while learning?

[@veronicaveintimilla8478]

I got my first job while still being on college