How NATO is 'mobilising industry to support Ukraine war effort'

"The UK and China must point out to President Putin that he cannot go down the nuclear road"
World powers must put pressure on Russia not to use nuclear weapons as the West mobilises its war industry, Sir Richard Barrons tells #TimesRadio.
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[@moseszero3281]

The REAL risk is appeasing Russia and letting them get any territory from Ukraine. This needs to be a TOTAL loss for Russia.

[@oxydator]

Agreed. The one thing Putler certainly does not want is lasting peace. He just wants to deceive the world about being peaceful in order to win time to rebuild his army's strength and continue the land robbery.

[@RJay121]

Absolutely right

[@George.Andrews.]

Get them completely out and take a bit of theirs as compensation

[@Milesco]

Quite right. Putin/Russia must not be allowed to profit or benefit in any way from its aggression.

[@yglnvbrs]

This can spiral into the 30minutes ww3 after putin basically, you undestimate the power of resentment. Ukraine should push to pre 24 borders and reparations to humiliate this regime and force russian public to revolt.

[@nevoobrazimiy]

Putin gave NATO quite a favour

[@donaldpate1863]

Pray he gives them all a quite pleasant ream job, lcks his lips in thanks, and asks for more! Thats the Pootin Dream!

[@ehombane]

Absolutely. I wonder what was his payment when he agreed with this plan. Mobilizing war industry. HAH. War industry is mobilized since forever. They invented all kind of wars all over the world. Then when things seemed that are calming down with soviets crumbled, they imploded their own towers and military coffers were full again. But that cow could not be milked forever. And they concocted this war. In the beginning I assumed too that the poo tin lost his marbles. But then I have seen an video of him shaking hands with a lot of leaders. And the puzzle pieces fell in place. They could have been very well planned this ruse. But is beyond my understanding what was his bribe. He was anyway rich beyond imagination. What could they have offered to him in order to play this role? the role of big bad wolf? Maybe underground help to consolidate his power? Or maybe he was tricked? He was promised the Ukraine, an fulfill his dream of making russia great again? and now they changed their mind? Or maybe the promise was only for what he grabbed at first invasion, and somehow he changed his mind and wanted more? But the scenario where they agreed from the beginning for this course of events is more likely. This will explain why the russian army is failing so miserably. It may be corrupted and outdated, but the magnitude of defeat is quite suspect. And this conspiracy theory, I admit a wild theory fit very well with his declarations that all is going according with the plan.

[@davidbanner6230]

A prediction about events to come: On October 2nd 22, the Russians in Ukraine will fire on orders from Putin, a “tactical nuclear device” in an uninhabited part of Ukraine. N.A.T.O will convene a conference to threaten mobilisation; Putin will be arrested. On October 7th 22, Putin will be found dead, in St Petersburg.

[@ehombane]

@@davidbanner6230 I have no idea what is happening, but I speculate. And I predict that no nuclear will be detonated, and the war will continue and escalate, because is very convenient for business. In these days wars can go forever. But the attacking countries cannot continue forever. Americans could not take Vietnam. Russians could not take Afghanistan, nor americans later. Sure, with mass destruction a country can be wiped, but this is not a good business, and this is why never happened.

[@anonanon7235]

Talk to me in Spring. We'll see how the EU holds up this winter.

[@williamwyllie7072]

Thank you Mr Putin for persuading Sweden and Finland to become full NATO members

[@geepea101able]

It's exactly what Putin didn't want!

[@JohnCSmith-lp1qr]

What's good about that ?

[@jessefisher1809]

@@JohnCSmith-lp1qr What isn't good about that?

[@BigSmartArmed]

@@jessefisher1809 A war with Russia? Russia just mobilized its entire military.

[@JohnCSmith-lp1qr]

@@jessefisher1809 no longer independent Country They let NATO in Now NATO will dictate foreign policies ...charge 3 % of GDP. in times of recessions ....waist of taxpayers money . Also legit target for Russian Missiles.. Bad move .

[@gnolan4281]

British military training has been overlooked and undervalued. Since 2014, after Putin seized Crimea a farsighted UK offered its organizational skills in training up the Ukrainians. What we're witnessing today is a brilliant example of how it paid off. We Americans can always learn a thing or two from the cousins.

[@constantinvaldor3742]

Your dad's lol 🇬🇧

[@sanatandharma4435]

I don't think it was overlooked or undervalued by the Ukraine military.

[@tidbit1877]

@@donalkinsella4380 You really don't have a clue what you're talking about. Honestly!

[@tidbit1877]

Don't forget the Canadians that also trained the Ukrainians; and we continue to train Ukrainian armed forces in the UK along side your trainers to this day! We're preparing them for the next counter-offensive! Go Ukraine, the world is with you!

[@gnolan4281]

@@tidbit1877 It's a shame when the Canadians are overlooked. I recently read about the exceptional valor Canadians showed in the invasion of Europe in WWII. They suffered heavy losses and we must never forget.

[@richiebeirach3671]

AT LEAST throw putin out of the UN ,,how can a WAR CRIMINAL BE ON THE SECURITY COUNCIL ?? what MADNESS IS THIS ??

[@PatmosEd]

you're joking No?? Not that i care about Putin ,but ! look around you

[@richiebeirach3671]

@@PatmosEd not JOKING !!

[@anonanon7235]

Do you know how many countries the USA has invaded in the past 75 years?

[@pho-kingsoup8126]

Putin does deserve credit for bringing NATO back to relevance and for extending NATO's borders along Russia's own border by double.

[@Argosh]

It's truly amazing on February 23 I would have gladly voted for Germany to leave NATO. One day later and not only am I thankful for its continued existence I actively support never ending it.

[@iloveaviation-burgerclub-a8145]

He is on our payrole 🤫

[@vintagebollinger4439]

Germany really is a peculiar nation in so far it seems only able to navigate itself through significant moral dilemmas with the benefit of his sight. This is a pattern repeated throughout its history since it’s’ formation in the 1870’s. When it comes to encountering such dilemmas in the first place, Germany is the Stevie Wonder of moral guardianship.

[@vintagebollinger4439]

Correction ‘hindsight’

[@Kodakcompactdisc]

Another masterstroke by putler 😂

[@ericconnor8419]

War is always a battle of logistics and production in the end, and ours is much better. Russia can't make a decent car or computer chip.

[@boink800]

Russian technology is like 40 years out of date -- it's like going back in time.

[@RazorMouth]

Think of the size of territory Russia has to manage. Now think that their GDP pre-war was about the same as Spain. How on earth would they have a chance to keep up with modern western technology. That's why they imported so much of the complex chips and tech from more advanced countries for assembly in their own tech. The sanctions are crippling their technology supply chains.

[@hymns4ever197]

The same could be said of the US. Many components for our cars come from foreign countries like China. That includes computer chips.

[@christianevanherck6023]

@@hymns4ever197 Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. is the world's largest semiconductor foundry. Pure-play foundries manufacture integrated circuits on behalf of clients. Many semiconductor companies outsource the manufacturing of their chips to Taiwan Semi.

[@RazorMouth]

@@hymns4ever197 only some, the US and Europe make many of their own chips too. The biggest Intel factories for example are in the US and Ireland.

[@jsb1585]

Putin did a cracking job of forcing Europe to reasses how seriously it takes defence and energy security. If that was the goal of his Special Military Operation, mission accomplished.

[@chryoko]

Military Industry Complexes are celebrating. Same goes with non-CO2 emitting energy suppliers including nuclear as coal/lignite are temporary back. And ex-zombi NATO is great again.... Sleepy Europe is awakening.

[@stevewells2327]

Agree and those that slumbered, while making decisions to solidify Russia as the only or primary supplier of energy- especially in Germany- should pay back their salaries.

[@iloveaviation-burgerclub-a8145]

Sometimes you get more than expected.

[@APW554]

Job well done

[@davidbanner6230]

The time has come for, us in the West, to be asking if our (so-called) democracy has outlived its usefulness, in delivering security to our lives? Once again, as we have seen in the past, power-mad dictators are able to threaten our lives, because they do not need the approval of the people they have under their control. Yes, the same can be said about the way we are lied to by our people, but at least our leaders must keep future elections in mind, which is why we must sit back and allow ourselves to be threatened with annihilation, every day, and we must take it? While the dictators grow stronger in belligerence with every passing day. It may be nice to console ourselves that our leaders are being responsible by not provoking the irresponsible mad-men facing us. However, is it an irrational responsibility that in the end will leave us in a world where we will be forever allowing the deranged to dominate everything in our lives? To take, as their derangement grows (as it surely will) anything they desire to boost their egos. “You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory because it is better to perish than live as slaves”: Winston Churchill.

[@mrb.5610]

I'd give them cruise missiles myself.

[@BigSmartArmed]

And what do you think you'll get in return? Get your hypersonic missile catching glove ready.

[@BigSmartArmed]

@@donalkinsella4380 They have no comprehension of consequences, they have no fear of real death because they are slaves to the system and they are afraid of what they are told to be afraid of.

[@ianlewis2813]

Give Ukraine what they need , long range missiles...

[@iloveaviation-burgerclub-a8145]

Battle tanks. Arty can not secure territory. Leopard 2A7 for pushing and Marder for highly mobile behind enemy lines attacks. Cheetah against Iranian RC model drones. Quick plz.

[@seeland1825]

Give tanks to help Ukraine and to stop this russian murders and this crazy guy in Moscow

[@tidbit1877]

M1Abrams!!!!!! YES!

[@drevil4454]

I'm a born South African and served in both the old SADF and British armies. British training is simply the best.

[@anonanon7235]

Training doesn't win wars. Resources, people, and industrial capacity win wars. Britain is a small island with NO resources.

[@montanasoftware5954]

TO ALL VIEWERS: Ukraine is a cause worth supporting. Let's contact our government representatives to urge them to do two things: 1 - Increase military aid to Ukraine. 2 - Toughen sanctions on Russia. You can call your representatives, send them an email, send them an old fashioned letter, respond to one of their Tweets ... something. Take the time to help Ukraine now ... you'll be proud of yourself when you do.

[@1Learn2Swim3]

We're sending enough military aid to Ukraine. How about you call your representatives and lobby for more money to help our own citizens, which is what our tax dollars are supposed to be used for.

[@anonanon7235]

Absolutely not. Ukraine got itself into this MESS, they need to get themselves OUT. My tax dollars ain't going to them. My investments are down 25% already.

[@Digmen1]

Yes, India and China need to step up and tell Putin very clearly that he must stop this war and withdraw from The Ukraine. If India and China stop supporting him, by just not condemming hsi war, it will put more pressure on Putin.

[@davidwrigley5457]

India and China could stop this And am hopeing very soon they will before it escalates into world war If they don't then it seems they wanted this in my eyes Peace ✌️

[@namelesssomebody2557]

Medical kits, disaster relief packages are important too

[@iloveaviation-burgerclub-a8145]

And helmets 🇩🇪🧢

[@davidbanner6230]

The time has come for, us in the West, to be asking if our (so-called) democracy has outlived its usefulness, in delivering security to our lives? Once again, as we have seen in the past, power-mad dictators are able to threaten our lives, because they do not need the approval of the people they have under their control. Yes, the same can be said about the way we are lied to by our people, but at least our leaders must keep future elections in mind, which is why we must sit back and allow ourselves to be threatened with annihilation, every day, and we must take it? While the dictators grow stronger in belligerence with every passing day. It may be nice to console ourselves that our leaders are being responsible by not provoking the irresponsible mad-men facing us. However, is it an irrational responsibility that in the end will leave us in a world where we will be forever allowing the deranged to dominate everything in our lives? To take, as their derangement grows (as it surely will) anything they desire to boost their egos. “You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory because it is better to perish than live as slaves”: Winston Churchill.

[@janko6608]

Now it is the time to send more and heavier military support to Ukraine to keep the pressure on. Putin will never end this war unless people of Russian force him to do it. That will not happen without Ukraine success in battlefields. To arms against tyranny !

[@JohnCSmith-lp1qr]

Idiot There will be no Ukrainians left in a Month couse of Bubble heads like you

[@cszulu2000]

Imagine if instead of a putin palace war against Ukraine, that money, brain power and international effort went into cleaning our waters, creating renewable energy, building efficient long lasting homes and products, colonizing the moon as a neutral moon. We could have feed and taught agriculture to the world for the cost of the war.

[@JJamJ]

I hear ya! Unfortunately, humans don’t think that way. At the least the greedy narcissistic leaders of international politics and companies dont😢

[@daraghosullivan1157]

Those are excellent measures to push forward unsustainable levels of human population. We need to focus instead on getting to a more sustainable human population, 500 million or something like that. It could be done over 100-200 years.

[@cszulu2000]

@@daraghosullivan1157 vertical farming takes a fraction of the ressources and energy. Link it to fish farming, the fertilizer from the fish can feed the plants. Option 2, send 300k young reservists to die for putins palaces.

[@incognitotorpedo42]

@@daraghosullivan1157 If you look at the birthrates of the developed nations of the world, I'd say we are well on our way to a substantially lower population.

[@miketaylor5212]

h never lived up to his promise of making his people more prosperous or their lives easier most still dont have electric or even indoor toilets most towns dont have sewage treatment.

[@kevinsummers1055]

There needs to be a constant repeat of the fact that Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014 and 2022.

[@JohnCSmith-lp1qr]

"Liberated Parts of Ukraine" ! Here you go Fixed for ya

[@Szminsky]

@@JohnCSmith-lp1qr “enslaved parts of Ukraine, fueled a civil war, and broke the Budapest Memorandum”. You made some errors, so I had to fix it for you as well.

[@JohnCSmith-lp1qr]

@@Szminsky You v been drinking already ?

[@miketaylor5212]

@@JohnCSmith-lp1qr those parts that they say are russian are 87 and 85% ukrainian ethnically that gives them absolutely no excuse to invade ukraine those 17%and 15% should jjust move to russia im sure they will be after the war.

[@anonanon7235]

Just because you repeat a lie doesn't make it become truth. In 2014, the US overthrew the Ukraine government, and installed a puppet regime that started a war in the East. Russia is now liberating that East and hopefully the rest.

[@drfill9210]

Is England going to churn out spitfires again? I'd like to see that!

[@doctorsloth213]

wth?>

[@drfill9210]

@@alasdairmmorrison74 better increase the time you are training Ukrainians then. Those things are really hard to fly

[@barry5787]

@@drfill9210 Na the Poles had no probs. Except using the radio for Polish chit chat. ((((((((((((Repeat Please))))))))))) Got to love 303 Sqn.

[@__logan__duvalier__]

Miniature Spitfire drones would be a good UAV design

[@drfill9210]

@@__logan__duvalier__ the battle of little Britain? 🤣🤣

[@johnnywalker4490]

Absolutely !! Go Ukraine/Taiwan Freedom !!

[@daikucoffee5316]

One eye on the war, one eye on his phone. Love this guys multitasking skill.

[@user-wn7tg8xn4u]

* The war in Ukraine will push inward the "historical" borders of Russia (The forecast of the philosopher Mikhail Aroshenko, the city of Dnipro, Ukraine) *When will the war in Ukraine end? The ancient Greek philosopher Plato argued that only the dead see the end of the war... The other day, near Kharkov, the Armed Forces of Ukraine not only defeated, but intellectually outplayed the troops of the Russian Federation, of which there were twice as many! The Armed Forces of Ukraine used the tactics of the famous boxer Muhammad Ali: "Fly like a moth and sting like a wasp!" As a result, Ukraine received trophies in a week - about 300 tanks, guns and armored vehicles. The myth of the invincible "second army of the world" has been dispelled once again. * Roll call of centuries: After the defeat in the Crimean War of 1853-56. The Russian Tsar abolished serfdom. After the defeat in the "Crimean War" 2014-2023. Russia is waiting for historical changes... * 54 thousand soldiers and officers of the Russian Federation, 11 generals have already died in battles ... The flagship of the Black Sea Fleet, the cruiser "Moskva", lies at the bottom. In the Crimea, at the airfield near Saki, in one day on 08/09/22, 23 aircraft and helicopters of the 43rd Sevastopol Aviation Regiment (half of all fleet aircraft) were destroyed or damaged. This missile attack will go down in the history of wars. There have been no such one-time losses in the USSR-Russia since 1945. Russia has already lost 468 planes and helicopters, over 6,000 tanks and armored vehicles... This is a blow to the ambitions of the Kremlin, which has lost out to new war technologies.... * "Why do we need such a world if there is no Russia?" - said Putin. In the Caucasus, they answer: "Why do we need such a Russia, because of which there will be no peace?" To get away from sanctions, the USSR-2 will be created - the Siberian Soviet Social Republic with its center in Novosibirsk. An independent Tatarstan and a renewed Chechnya will receive Turkey's support. The real Russia is no more than other average countries in the world. The rest of the national republics are its colonies, which one way or another will become free. The decolonization of Russia is inevitable, like the coming of dawn after night. *Russia is still based on fear and professional slavery. She will face many years of rehabilitation and retribution for her manic desire to rewrite the history of the 20th century, because the Kremlin has long suffered from imperial "political schizophrenia" - megalomania and persecution delusions ... The Putin era will end in disgrace, but "collective Putin" will remain. 70% of the population from the "generation of envy of the successful" supported the war. * Although the world is full of suffering, it is also full of examples of overcoming suffering. After the defeat of Putinism, a new stage of renewal will begin. Most of the "deep people" will rebuild. From the period of supporting the war - to freedom of expression, creative life, creative economy and politics! * The historical genetics of Russia is the permanent seizure of foreign lands and property, the recognition of someone else's as one's own. After the defeat, Russia will have a chance to climb from the centuries-old imperial dress into democratic pants...

[@Godflesh88v2]

Ali said "float like a butterfly, sting like a bee"

[@trevorroberts9584]

I don't think that Russia is capable of shrugging off its imperial past. If it does it will take a number of generations, and the collapse of the the Russian Federation (empire).

[@axelfoley1812]

@@Godflesh88v2 exactly no mention of moths or wasps

[@garryjones8334]

How true you speak . I'm getting divorced from a Russian woman and she is a mini putin

[@leifer1667]

@@garryjones8334One good reason to stay happy😁

[@phillipgoodwin7776]

😊👍👍💪🤛more weapons for Ukraine 🇺🇦 thanks to America 🇺🇸 and 🇬🇧 and allies

[@adminomhfoz1908]

Spot on

[@ninh05]

Looks like Putin fighting WW3 all by himself, what a man.

[@miketaylor5212]

so much for his chess playing ability.

[@LA-kc7ev]

We need to replenish our own stockpiles as well.

[@chrisschneiders6734]

I've heard some so called experts say there is no such thing as a tactical nuclear weapon, that a nuclear weapon is a nuclear weapon, who is right, is it just a buzz word for a small nuclear weapon?

[@RayMerrell68]

"...who is right..."? Whoever wins

[@RazorMouth]

Shorter range too, just a few hundred KM. Not like ICBMs (intercontinental) But yeah they're just baby nukes.

[@dallywang6143]

Words are what you perceive them to be. Officially tactical nuclear weapons are nuclear weapons which are used in the battlefield and strategic nuclear weapons are used to destroy infrastructure. For layman, tactical nuclear weapon sounds less serious so experts will say it’s all the same. This will add gravity to the scenario in which Russia uses them. And if it happens there will be stronger reaction from average people. And finally, these terms don’t have anything to do with the size of the weapon. USA has tactical nuclear weapons 10 times more powerful than the “strategic nuclear weapons” dropped in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

[@Spindlysneaker]

So what are you saying? Mister internet expert yourself. xD

[@davidedward2405]

A nuclear weapon is a nuclear weapon that's it, when I was in the forces no one every said tactical nuclear weapon ever, we were all told if they used one nuclear weapon we would fire everything we had back at them, it still stands today, if Russian fire just one nuke the retaliation from the western nuclear powers would be devastating too Russia and they know it, so they will not use one.

[@alexkalish8288]

The truth is Ukraine is already prepared for tactical Nukes. They are using small dispersed formations with no concentrations of infantry. They are training outside the country as well. Tactical weapons won't do a thing but maybe give Russia a 10 mile gain for a few days. The real reason they won't use them is Ukraine is a nuclear power itself, well acquainted with the production of nuclear weapons - and not the puny NK devices. They have scientists from Russia's own bomb programs and all the Pu they could desire. In other words, Ukraine would take out Moscow in retaliation.

[@kaltenburg2637]

Well ukraine does not have a bomb. And there is the delivery problem. But russia should factor such a move by ukraine in response to a tactical nuke attack

[@davidbanner6230]

A prediction about events to come: On October 2nd 22, the Russians in Ukraine will fire on orders from Putin, a “tactical nuclear device” in an uninhabited part of Ukraine. N.A.T.O will convene a conference to threaten mobilisation; Putin will be arrested. On October 7th 22, Putin will be found dead, in St Petersburg.

[@christianevanherck6023]

The West knows exactly where the Russian storage sites are, it's constantly being monitored, they will know if and when the Russians are gearing up to deliver tactical nukes to units. The US has already communicated to Putin that if he were to use it, there are options that the West has that he wouldn't like at all.

[@normalname3623]

@@kaltenburg2637 beside, isn't nuking Ukraine is the same as declaring war agaisnt NATO ? Countries around Ukraine will have to deal with nuclear fallout too

[@davidwrigley5457]

I didnt realise this 😳

[@LordOfLight]

I'd give my eye teeth to know what's going on in and around the Kremlin nowadays. I bet Putin would too.

[@axelfoley1812]

Putin: I f*cked up so bad tens of thousands of Russian soldiers dead and we are now losing ground in the Donbass Everyone else at the Kremlin: so when are we getting rid of Putin

[@leeneon854]

Industry industry industry, nothing beating U.K U.S industry, especially U.S industry, output

[@Gayzenon]

❤️Ukrainian 🇬🇪

[@carlschildhauer6889]

M1 Abrams or Leopard 2 for Ukraine pls

[@nicholassmith7984]

Doesn't the USA have thousands of these tanks it doesn't need just laying around?

[@davidkennedy8929]

Nicholas smith, you are correct, Americans do have thousands of older tanks that could be donated to Ukrainian armed forces if the political will was there!

[@chryoko]

Maybe they do not want them to be captured by the enemy. Also M1 runs on a turbine engine and most probably has no ISO standard bolt....means it will require special tools , parts and will be hard to refuel and maintain on the battlefield.

[@nicholassmith7984]

@@chryoko That's a valid point, if this is the case.

[@davidedward2405]

@@nicholassmith7984 Yes they have thousands of them in storage, just need a service and shipping over there, the UK also has big numbers of tanks and armoured vehicles in storage too, about 350 challenger 2's and lots of stuff brought back from afghan fiasco.

[@daynalindsey4778]

AMEN..SLAVA UKRAINE.

[@kenjackson5685]

1st class

[@doffmoffin]

I'm from the future - they chose the mobilization option but apparently it is "partial" mobilization (mobilizing reserves and anyone who has been in the military in the past 4 or so years).

[@christianevanherck6023]

It's not realistic! Even in a best-case scenario, mobilization would take at least several months to a year to confer an operational benefit. Russia’s mobilization base, made of equipment in long-term storage and reservists with military experience, has been largely dormant for over a decade. Expanding the system nationwide would strain it significantly; thousands of officers and noncommissioned officers needed to command mobilized units are currently fighting or have already been killed in Ukraine.

[@BigSmartArmed]

It's for the mentally deficient Westerners not to get, by Russian standard partial mobilization means full mobilization of the entire military for combat duty, while civilians are not drafted into military service. Entire Russian Armed Forces have just been mobilized for a world war, but hey, West doesn't get it.

[@miketaylor5212]

they are taking people with no experience and no needed skills also. so its more than 300,000 that number is for public consumption.

[@janebishop5885]

The best thing that could happen is for the military to occupy those oil fields and turn their sights on Moscow. Use that wealth for your people and Save your country, soldiers!

[@aaronburge3680]

Not with money is it.

[@gandalfstormcrow2486]

Based on what we've seen their nukes are rusting in the ground.

[@tfhmobil]

Where is UN, and other humanitarian organizations ? The “grain deal” didn’t really work well, neither did the nuclear power security issue. Looking down this conflict, every humanitarian organization, seems reluctant to get in, and do the job.

[@freeman5110]

Sometimes right is just right; and freedom is NOT free. May Ukrainians find peace, and victory and utilize the resources provided by the world (and Russia🤣) to keep their liberty!🇺🇲🤝🇺🇦💙💛🌻🚜💪 May Russia continue tasting nothing but the ashes of their defeat🇷🇺👎💩

[@donaldpate1863]

Ah,....The Ever Present Military Industrial Complex, here we go!

[@redangrybird7564]

Don Crispin "Jarocho" 😁✌️

[@chairde]

The smartest thing to do is declare victory and leave.

[@vrvaughn]

…Russia can’t beat Ukraine, how can they attack England?

[@davidrobinson5265]

With a nuclear bomb 🤷‍♂️. However it’s highly unlikely

[@vrvaughn]

@@davidrobinson5265 I don’t believe the people between him and a nuclear launch will allow it to happen.. they have children and grandchildren… none would survive. I don’t believe they would blindly follow orders to appease one impotent demented delusional dwarf in the Kremlin…

[@davidrobinson5265]

@@vrvaughn I agree completely

[@fluffybunnyslippers2505]

Look on the bright side, Mobilizing military industry's means more jobs and more profit...

[@bla5102]

Side note: The UK is one of few countries who train Ukrainians comment is quite disingenuous. Since countries are sending trainers to the UK to train Ukrainians.

[@SilvanaDil]

And the Americans have given satellite intel, HARM missiles, HIMARS....

[@lulenao3987]

Military commerce aside, please consider human sufferings and come together to end this war within this year.

[@doctorsloth213]

here we go again, normalizing the threat and use of nukes

[@nl4064]

only 2 choices = we stand against evil or pass it onto our children

[@Kokoda144]

That fkn pencil. Put it down

[@fullgreys0n738]

No other country is able to train soldiers in UK, then UK...

[@vivette8944]

Can’t that guy learn to say r. ?

[@dessmith7658]

I think we're going the wrong way

[@stephensipe5405]

Ukraine ultimately will need 2 to 3 Corps, or 6 to 9 Divisions, or 24 to 36 Brigades to achieve total victory in liberating its territory while defending its borders. A full Corps could be Nation Guard/Reservists in mostly NATO Infantry organization. Ukraine will need 4 Divisions of NATO quality Armor (Tanks). These need to be M1A1 quality. Probably 2 Armor Divisions will be cut up into 3 Divisions of 12 Combined Arms Battalions. The Ukrainians just captured enough Russian equipment in Kharkviv to outfit 2 Combined Arms and 1 Infantry Brigade. This is effectively an underweight Infantry Division and good to defend a liberated area. The manpad was over stated as a tank killer because of poor Russian organization and deployment. The Ukrainian Kharkviv Offensive demonstrated how essential Armor can be in spearheading an Offensive Operation. They used T72 tanks. Now picture using M1A1 tanks with depleted uranium hull and turret. As long as the ground and bridges can hold the weight, the M1A1 will rarely be stopped. This is the spearhead for the Melitopol, Donbas, and Crimea Offensives. I have suggested Ukraine consider Light Tanks. The UK provided older tracked Light Tanks. Maybe the Italian Centauro II or US Stryker with a main gun could also be considered. These lose some off road capabilities but are better on hardball. These Light Tanks also have 120MM main gun anti-MBT capabilities the older UK Light Tanks lack.

[@BigSmartArmed]

So what happens when Russia nukes NATO bases that will be commanding and supporting all of those forces? Putin just announced full military mobilization and use of nukes. Go ahead, run some more scenarios in which Russia chooses to lose to NeoNazis after losing over 30 million dead in WWII.

[@MarcosElMalo2]

Do those awesome eyebrows come with the knighthood?

[@alchapman4621]

Theyhot loads of NUCLEAR bombs !!!!!

[@kleanthdruga5529]

For every euro/dollar we give now we save 1000 euros/dollars plus 1000 lives in the future.

[@IbnBahtuta]

putin's options list is getting smaller and smaller. The walls are begining to close in and I pity the one who must give putin unwelcome news, repeatedly. 🤣

[@zenfox1979]

Russia couldnt even beat Finland from what i have seen in Ukraine let alone the rest of NATO combined.

[@peterbeyer5755]

Putin has given the world an opportunity to crush the mafia run gas station which Russia became under Putin, let’s not waste it.

[@LA-kc7ev]

I hope I am wrong, but along with the risk of a tactical nuclear weapon in Ukraine there is the risk of a nuclear weapon used against US/NATO. What Putin would obtain from the first option is dubious; from the second, escalation and an all out attempt for victory. Hardliners in Russia are very active right now, and the full embrace of world war can be read throughout their ideological writings, especially those of Aleksandr Dugin.

[@christianevanherck6023]

NATO knows where Russian storage sites are located, it's constantly being monitored, they will know if and when the Russians are gearing up to deliver tactical nukes to units. The US has already communicated to Putin that if he were to use it, there are options that the West has that he wouldn't like at all.

[@incognitotorpedo42]

@@christianevanherck6023 Like turning Moscow into a radioactive slagheap.

[@miketaylor5212]

@@incognitotorpedo42 i think the world would look better witthout the kremlin.

[@WhiteDragon689]

Its in NATO member states to do this as the cost is only afraction of what would be needed to be spent had they ignored it. Now russia is a has been already, they need to focus on CHina and India now.

[@anonanon7235]

It was a mistake to pick a fight with Russia on their turf. Their economy is growing now. The EU's is collapsing.

[@About_That_Life]

Why should we be scared of russia. We should give Ukraine any & all weapons they need. Just no Nato boots on ground, Unless russia gets help from another country like north korea & they send official state soldiers from a non russian state then Nato should send their soldiers into Ukraine against russian & which ever country gets involed.

[@Comodusprimus]

Wound the wugged wocks the wagged wascal wan...

[@donixion4368]

Russia on the back foot in Ukraine next year? How about now? Ukraine is actively stepping through one Russian defense line after another.

[@climatebabes]

Bwittan?

[@romanovobsessed3347]

Your times up Putin, can you keep your life is the only question?

[@courcheval]

I wonder how many whiskeys this gentleman is having per hour. His face can t lie.

[@George.Andrews.]

I'm not sure the most likely and the most sensible are the same thing for putin. Haha classic.

[@lmao.3661]

thank you putin!

[@StPiter111]

Get higher taxes now😁😁😁

[@albertnottage8581]

If NATO had backed Ukraine in the first place there would have not had this part of Ukraine Russia that is or any citys bombed what Ukraine as done what more would we have done to Russia we seem to be more affiad

[@stefan3225]

What’s he gonna do when that eye brow finally crawl off his face?

[@drecepy6213]

Bla bla bla 🤡🤡🤡🤣🤣🤡

[@TheGruntski]

It is quite foolish to submit to Russia's nuclear threats. The Russian populace is packed into a very small area of the country unlike the EU and the US. No country is more vulnerable to nuclear weapons than Russia. They would be wise to back off that threat.

[@miketaylor5212]

once russia proper is removed their colonial possesions can have self determination of course there may a period of them attacking each other.

[@anonanon7235]

Liz Truss said she'd nuke Russia on Tuesday. Putin didn't say he'd nuke anyone, he just said they'd use any weapons they have to defend Russian territory.

[@admilsonoo7]

Я никогда не думал, что поддержу убийцу, но Пригожин заслужил мое уважение, когда попытался сказать русскому народу правду. Когда он пытался спасти достоинство России. Откройте глаза, вас обманывают.

[@MrLaughinggrass]

Why don't we buy good quality kit off the shelf for our own military and then give our older stuff to Ukraine?

[@edbaker515]

What kind journalist are you......... what doby questions your journalist ask....... Ukraine is on fire as neighbor s we lend as much as we can.......so fire doint spread to us in return

[@ragnarthegr842]

There is actually another way out for putin that I think might be better and the best way he can save face, do a referendum election on the occupied territories and have a close vote but make it so majority wants to stay with Ukraine, that way he can say hey we tried but the people voted so we will now be leaving these territories willingly because the people have spoken.

[@bogdanmeleszczenko1271]

That would be so funny - but it is impossible.

[@ragnarthegr842]

@@quranyeshua I know but they would have to rig it so it looks like the Russian support was close, 60/40 you know what I mean

[@malcolmlane-ley2044]

That’s such a free world type of thought process

[@robertpatrick3350]

The Russians only run elections with predetermined results, any ‘evidence’ of free choice is illusionary

[@axelfoley1812]

@@ragnarthegr842 yeah but Russia spent so much time saying how the Donbass was a victim of Ukraine and how the citizens there wanted to be Russian citizens so if they do what you are suggesting the Russian people won't believe it. After 50,000 dead Russian soldiers Putin has very little options and has only himself to blame

[@elspoocho4637]

any wisk in pwovocing wussia? geez

[@christopher9727]

John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

[@deckardcain9789]

It's amazing what a sackful of Billions and the whispered phrase "cost plus" can accomplish.

[@marcomongke3116]

the current west will make the same mistake the USSR did if they focus too much on weapons against military power like Russia. China benefits most in the long run.

[@jamestajiri58]

At current US production rate of Weapons like Javelin Stinger HARM HIMARS missiles, production CANNOT nearly keep up with Ukraine war consumption rates. To truly keep up would seem to require a wartime mobilization and that is not likely with the USA at peace.

[@chryoko]

They are hand made by a dozen of highly qualified workers ? Why not investing into a real mass production line for the final assembly and each of the components ? An automotive car production line is able to produce over 1000 cars per day.....

[@christianevanherck6023]

Russia is unable to keep up its production. They have run their stocks of ballistic- and cruise missiles ‘dry’. That is: they’ve had much less than [the Kremlin] were claiming, and have spent nearly everything … Net result: they’re down to using whatever their factories manage to assemble. Meanwhile, Ukrainian air defenses have become more effective at shooting down the incoming missiles, forcing Russia to launch larger salvoes to guarantee some make it through the gauntlet. A June article by Maxim Starchak spells out how slowly Russia will be able to replace its exhausted cruise and ballistic missiles despite attempts to increase the pace of production by working three shifts and hiring more workers. Shortages of skilled workers, inability to purchase Western microelectronics and failure to develop domestic components are all culprits. Based on his figures, monthly missile production rates are as follows: - Novator plant: 8-10 Kalibr naval cruise missiles per month - Novator plant: 3-6 Iskander-K cruise missiles per month (“several dozen [annually]”) per month - Votkinsk plant: 5 Iskander-M ballistic missiles per month (increased from 4) [from other sources] 2-4 Oniks anti-ship missiles per month (“several dozen annually”) or 4.5 per month (55 annually) used in Bastion coastal defense system and Russian ships (copied from 19fortyfive .com - Russia Has Run Out Of Long-Range Missiles To Terrorize Ukraine)

[@Marvin-dg8vj]

@@chryoko it is possible but would be slow and expensive and take years. It took Britain years in the 1930s to rearm and that was with much less sophisticated weapons than today's

[@tidbit1877]

@@Marvin-dg8vj The US has always maintained that it could fully mobilize in 6 months or less. It will be no problem at all to keep up with the Ukrainian military's consumption rate. I figure by mid next year they will reclaim the southern areas north of Crimea and then Putin will beg for a peace deal.

[@terrancenorris9992]

When money is to be made, a capitalist economy can do the task.

[@ParksIII]

The West needs to fully support Ukraine to win the war and remove Russian troops out of all Ukraine including Crimea. Russia will not use chemical weapons or nuclear as the US will have a strong and direct response in Russia!

[@anonanon7235]

I bet the Romans thought that they could prolong their empire with hopeful statements too.

[@ParksIII]

@@anonanon7235 Putin is trying to recreate the Russian Empire of Peter the Great. Perhaps Italy should also claim all Roman Empire territories or the Vikings reclaim Kievan-Rus!!!

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[@semperfidelification]

Never forget if trump had his way NATO would not even exist.

[@SilvanaDil]

Never forget how much stronger NATO would be if every member met the 2% minimum commitment.

[@SilvanaDil]

Never forget how much stronger NATO would be if every member met the 2% minimum commitment.

[@semperfidelification]

@@SilvanaDil And that agreement was made under Obama...did you know that and do you know when the deadline is to make that 2% happen? It has not arrived yet. Facts matter.

[@SilvanaDil]

@@semperfidelification - Yes, I'm well aware of Wales 2014. Do you think that, e.g., Canada will reach it by 2024? NO. Canada has admitted that.

[@namur-iq6ih]

Donbass republic reveals date for vote to join Russia: The plebiscite will take place from September 23 to 27, according to a Lugansk People’s Republic official. LPR head Leonid Pasechnik was the first to sign a law on “holding a public referendum in the republic on the inclusion of the region into the Russian Federation,” after its parliament unanimously supported the move and set a date for the vote. The LPR’s decision was soon followed by DPR leader Denis Pushilin, who declared that his republic would also be holding a similar referendum on the same date. Pushilin said he had already introduced the relevant legislation in the DPR parliament. In a letter addressed to Vladimir Putin, Pushilin urged the president to consider incorporating the DPR in the territory of the Russian Federation if the referendum is approved by the people of the republic. “The long-suffering people of Donbass deserve to be part of the Great Country, which they have always considered their Motherland. This event will be the restoration of historical justice, the onset of which millions of Russian people crave,” he wrote. The announcement of the referendums comes after the civic chamber of the LPR urged republic’s leaders on Monday to “immediately” hold a vote on joining Russia, stating that it was important to expedite the process and hold a vote as soon as possible. “The events of recent days have shown that the Kiev nationalists have crossed all the red lines,” said the deputy head of the chamber, Lina Vokalova, pointing to the relentless shelling of the LPR’s civilian population. She also recalled that the people of Donbass had already made their choice back in 2014, when the first “self-determination referendum” to secede from Kiev’s rule took place. “All these years we have been waiting and believing that the second one will definitely follow, which will fulfill our dream of returning home - to the Russian Federation,” Vokalova added.

[@kaxin1367]

Use less text for propaganda. Also learn how to properly kowtow to the Chinese. It will make the transition from ruz bot to cn bot much easier.

[@trevorroberts9584]

To long and to detailed for propaganda. Anyway we know the spurious reason they want to hold a referendum cause then they 'fix' it and claim that Ukraine is attacking Russian territory and please could Putin call up the conscripts to 'defend' Russia from invasion.

[@robertpatrick3350]

I’m sure they will get the same percentage of votes as any other totalitarian dictatorship

[@zenfox1979]

what Ukraine should do is take back all the territory's the tell anyone who wants to be part of Russia to cross the border.

[@CONTACTLIGHTTOMMY]

Has anyone brought up the topic of how NATO expansion has endangered Russia? If Russia had ZERO armed forces on the NATO borders, Russia would be in ZERO danger. NATO is purely defensive...end of story.

[@christianevanherck6023]

Expansion is not a word that should be used to describe NATO (unlike its correct description of the Warsaw Pact). NATO builds, and therefore becomes larger by voluntary association.

[@christianevanherck6023]

If Russia posed ZERO threat to their neigbors, there would be ZERO danger.

[@dzokavaac7307]

Russia for the win. British is done with one poseidon. Lizz truss is going to finish you

[@ddguitars1969]

Prat

[@paraguard60]

Ooooh silly Russian bot!

[@richardtargett4128]

And several Trident missiles on Moscow, St. Petersburg and other large Russian cities would end Russia. Putin is going to finish you.

[@dzokavaac7307]

@@alasdairmmorrison74 why? This is good one

[@truthplease4868]

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[@rodneyagesa1851]

NATO has no industrial capacity to fight Russia.Imagine Russia is able to singlehandedly fight the whole of NATO for over 6 months.The US is talking of taking up to 3 years to replace what they have sent to Ukraine.

[@frankrenda2519]

true rodney

[@semperfidelification]

NATO has barely sent 10% of what they could to Ukraine. You're delusional thinking russia has won anything ...they have lost at every single turn.

[@Kenneth_James]

what drugs do you take?

[@arizonaranger9946]

You better lay off that copium.

[@tixien]

NATO countries’ GDP is $45tn. Russia’s GDP is $1.5tn.

[@ndwandwewasendwedwe7964]

The analysts on the side of Russia are very articulate and are thinkers. The analysts on the side of Ukraine are dunderheads

[@cvechinavideoexpress1436]

And of course you are so expert on geopolitics that you are able to render your considerably asinine opinion. If "dunderheads" is the most complex word you know you should refrain from public discourse.

[@ndwandwewasendwedwe7964]

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[@cvechinavideoexpress1436]

@@ndwandwewasendwedwe7964 I see you've taken my advice and become tongue-tied and wordless. Good for you, you can learn from your mistakes.

[@ndwandwewasendwedwe7964]

@@cvechinavideoexpress1436 US and broke the promise not to move Eastward. In 2008 NATO announced Georgia and Ukraine would join NATO. 2014 USA engineers a coup in Ukraine against a democratically elected president after that they channel Arms to Azov battalion and it massacres the Russian speaking population. Now your little minded analysts wanna make us believe that Putin woke on 24 February and attacked Ukraine for no reason. USA is really a land of the blind