How NBA Painkillers Nearly Ended Alonzo Mourning’s Career | ALL THE SMOKE

Alonzo Mourning opens up about his past kidney problems and how NBA painkillers like Toradol did much more harm than good.
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[@verbone]

As a Knicks fan, I hated Zo. Years later, I learned to look back and respect the loyalty and warrior mentality Zo always showed on the court. The guy earned every bit of his HOF career.

[@stevewise1656]

I watched him once in person when he was young and playing for Charlotte. He was a warrior every second on the court.

[@ronaldcoats5883]

WHY HATE SOMEONE, YOU ONLY HURTING YOURSELF.

[@PistachiosPurses]

I just saw ppl criticizing Jarrett Allen for refusing to take meds for his bruised ribs. This info is informing some players who choose to listen and learn.

[@edross2826]

Those Knicks and Heat '90s battle was something special.

[@henokbaarez7464]

Man I love Zo. He was a beast. I remember after the Olympics he was diagnosed. I was so sad.

[@allenboyer2207]

The man was a force in the paint

[@AbesamisM]

zo still looks great even after all hes been through

[@fauxbro1983]

zo is a specimen. no homo

[@fredtolliver4798]

How is he supposed to look? He's only 54.....a transplant isn't a death sentence, and if you recall, he's always been a physical specimen, in top shape

[@AbesamisM]

@@fredtolliver4798 you must hate your life. Lmao

[@AbesamisM]

@@fredtolliver4798 you’re a snake

[@fredtolliver4798]

​@@AbesamisMmy life is pretty good, to be honest with ya....I'm not sure what part of your brain is not engaged, but you're not making any sense...definitely not a critical thinker....let me guess...you're between 14 & 22

[@christinebryant8354]

There’s so many lessons in this interview.

[@loosescrews8106]

Yes indeed. Zo is handling this like the warrior that he is. God is with you Zo.

[@darren2329]

My biggest takeaway...Zo trying to teach these relatively younger "tough guys" how to take responsibility. Every shot clangin off Stephen Jackson dome.

[@creigiihtondenynis39]

Alonzo Mourning one of my all time favorites!!

[@thesocialclassbook5900]

As a former Ohio State and NBA player, Zo is right on point about how we had to “play through the pain” back in the day. He was a warrior just like Jackson and Barnes. I echo the sentiment that holistic care through natural means is the way to go. Inside or outside of sports, the medicine foods of God should be prioritized. - Lawrence Funderburke, MBA and CFP

[@rolondorivas6562]

O-H…. Thank You For Reppin the Buckeyes Like A MAN‼️

[@johnnybraxton5539]

I hope everything is ok with his health ZO was a monster

[@JamesJones-bi4ww]

The meds were in all sports Zo and you can't forget about Walter Peyton

[@loslakers530]

Mann prime ZO had one of the best insane physiques of all time. He was a man amongst boys

[@RVRayRay]

His calves!

[@Skywarp0317]

That man was BUILT.

[@dsg3053]

So why was he taking painkillers

[@wiLLsofsteeL84]

Tell that to David Robinson.

[@IDontBuyIt50]

yeah but this one boy named Vince kept dunking on top of his grown man head.

[@MindMadnessGuns]

Perfect discussion, Zo was incredible man, he was such a competitor! Glad he's found peace in retirement and that he's learning to live on with Kidney Disease with grace!

[@mr.bread3circus]

Powerful interview. I was NEVER gonna be a GREAT but had an opportunity to play overseas. Not educating myself on how this body works is why I ruptured my Achilles in tryouts.... Taking antibiotics, wrongly prescribed, and later black labeled.

[@erichoward1731]

Thank You ZO👋🙏👋💪💪

[@LoScrila84]

So was that dude! Real professional!

[@leonardmulrooney3806]

Much respect Alonzo for your take on this.

[@quarterboy2842]

Alonzo took the words out of my mouth, "I'm a grown man". Stephen can take notes about self accountability.

[@skeetbonejones4368]

Yeah I get it. At the end of the day he as a man made the decision to take the painkillers. However, look at what happens when you don't. Take Kyrie for example. The league damn near blackballed him for his decision not to take the vaccine FOR THE GOOD OF THE TEAM. The league will stand behind you when you help push THEIR aganda. But the minute you decide to stand up for YOUR beliefs, YOUR health, YOUR faith, you get blackballed. I would ask that research what happened to Craig Hodges, Chris Jackson aka Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf, and most recently, Mark Jackson....

[@artakarakelyan1632]

A real human being.

[@ms.p6594]

This was a very good and much needed conversation. Please continue this dialogue. This would be a good to share with not only rookies, but those aspiring to join any league of sports. I could see Coach Prime allowing this topic to be shared on an open panel. These discussions bring about more awareness and could potentially help save someone else. The painkillers can also be a portal to other harsher vices as well. Good content. Keep rising.

[@morganmckinley7946]

Old School guys retired after 7-8 years when they broke down Zo was a bad man

[@sunnisukumar]

God bless Zo. I love the message to take personal responsibility for choices and to live a healthier lifestyle. And yes, it'd also be great for the NBA to help retired athletes more in whatever ways possible.

[@DarrellFranklin]

I can relate; I took Celebrex and Naproxen while playing college football. I had my kidney fail in my early 30s, and I was blessed to receive a donor from my wife.

[@mikelindner2646]

Zo said nah don’t bring that victim bs around the 305

[@plainman9887]

You're pretending that there is no such thing as a perpetrator.

[@isaacmussie7557]

if anyone interested (doubt it tbh but we out here); - Non-steroidal anti-inflammatories (NSAIDs), like toradol, naproxen, advil, etc - inhibits enzymes (cox 1 and cox 2) that are relate to keeping the glomerulus (something Zo mentioned) filtering properly - therefore, excessive NSAID use commonly leads to filtration issues and scarring of the kidney, which is irreversible

[@eddiewhite270]

ZO's impact outside of Ball is tremendous, his foundations, His School...NOT too Mention ZO's Summer GROove🎉🎉🎉

[@Grommok]

Great interview! Thank you Zo.

[@phillydee1004]

Alonso ive been following your career since the 1988 McDonald's All American game your in my prayers god is with you big guy.

[@shannondbrown1552]

I love Zo and was a big fan of his. I get what Stephen is saying how they weren’t given options, but because they were a commodity they were given a quick fix and sent back in the game. So glad he was willing to share this especially for our brothers who hate the doctor, forget the macho attitude and get checked out because it’s better to know when you can do something about it ,than when it’s stage 5,has spread and too late…..

[@sigungajoshua6149]

Very Important Topic...

[@Youdatguy]

I’ve had one Tibia Platue surgery. 2 plates and 9 screws. I could never understand how anyone takes pain killers long term. When I was taking my dose down to ween off. I needed two separate days to truly recover from not taking the Oxys. I was only on them for 1 month and started with 10’s and took it to 5’s and then I cut the 5’s to 2.5. My body felt it. Stop taking your pain meds sooner than later or you’re tricked. Your body will crave them.

[@brianbachmeier34]

Legend

[@ianward8107]

I remember when ZO got sidelined with the kidney disorder and back then I remember the press conferences and it was a mysterious kidney disease this is very interesting knowing this now

[@davidcahan]

It's one of those situations where both things are true: they're grown men and shoulda known better and the team trainers were/are pushers and are going to do what's best for winning not necessarily for the player.

[@drec00k206]

I got sickle cell and when I’m having a crisis toradol is something they give me but I’m only allowed 1 dose every 12 hours because it can cause kidney problems

[@thunderking8925]

Alonzo still has more gains than 96% of current nba players

[@marvinmason20]

Stephen Jackson was taught how accountability works today.

[@mathewlynch583]

Facts

[@LatrineSpray]

Stupid take 🤣

[@adgee5401]

It’s more nuanced than this. Zo’s example of crack is a false equivalency. Pressure from the organization to play was a real thing. When you’re trying to stay in the league, you’re going to do some things you don’t want to. It sounds good in hindsight say I’m a grown man when you’re 50+. That was nothing more than cliche nonsense.

[@godsunknicks2832]

@@adgee5401agreed. Plus Zo works for the Heat he’s not going to come out and throw the medical staff under the bus… even if they are probably retired.

[@Drtreal]

​@@godsunknicks2832that issue happened in New York

[@brunocuevas2136]

I remember Patrick Ewing vs Alonzo . It was a very competitive confontation, but always Patrick had a better game . Ewing was a Monster.

[@Anonymous--Troll]

People are hating on Jackson but when you’re a young impressionable guy in the nba you are as good as your leadership…you know they really only care about their ability to perform…not them. Don’t lie you woulda done the same thing

[@DM-lj2mn]

Jackson is saying he didn't have options, but let's be real sports medicine in the 90’s-early 00’s is not what we know today. Zo made the choice because he wanted to play nobody forced him to do it.

[@brownpapi2634]

​@@DM-lj2mnYeah BUT it's still predatory of the NBA organizations to push that on these young men who in reality really didn't give AF about the player's long term health

[@otepdotnet]

insane physique, he looks like The Rock playing basketball during his prime

[@coleturner5665]

Men: go get that annual check up

[@user-qr7ee2cp4y]

Anytime you take a pill, it's hard on your kidneys... it's why you should never be quick to take a pill for anything.

[@Dantana424]

That's why you get blood tests

[@domino2009ful]

I hated Zo when he played the Knicks during the Heat years…he was a force to reckon with

[@frederickbradford7799]

PREACH zo

[@dennisgreene2544]

Perks,I need;them! Pain?

[@juanfranciscosantana4793]

The part of the other side of athletes that people don't know.

[@stixscofield8312]

The morning of ❤❤❤

[@AbesamisM]

pain killers are so bad for you its crazy. i try not to judge but theres lots of better alternatives. so sad doctors and professionals push them

[@Davivd2]

CBD or THC and Zo would have been playing at the same level his career started for another 6 or 7 years.

[@Epupify]

​@@Davivd2THC should be held to the same scrutiny as any other painkiller regarding its side effects and limitations on effectiveness. Like what is it about it that makes sone people brand it as The alternative to all other painkillers like it is the only natural and pure option in that regard.

[@Davivd2]

@@Epupify Well it's never ruined anyone's kidneys, or given anyone an ulcer. So there's that.

[@Epupify]

@@Davivd2 I'm not anti-thc, but you do know it does have side effects, behavior and mental alterations, risk of addiction, being one of those, right?

[@AbesamisM]

@@Epupify god I love ppl that come to the commment section for an intelligent convo. T

[@coolmoe3289]

Anybody Can Walk Up Too Jackson An Say.... "Here Smoke Dis Sh"t" Dude Won't Turn It Down.. 😂🤣😂

[@mwpierre]

I wonder if this why Nate Robinson now needs a kidney transplant.

[@newcaddie9582]

That bama was on steroids. Especially being in Miami. A lot of players were back then.

[@mikeschmidt3382]

I don’t think Zo was on roids. I could be wrong but he seems like good genetics considering he still looks extremely fit.

[@newcaddie9582]

@@mikeschmidt3382 I don’t have any proof either just my assumption. On top of that gym that got busted for selling steroids to all the famous people

[@shalierichardson5812]

Zo knows Rayful

[@WeeJay-g2r]

More stuff, topics like this cause it was about profit. Big $, commercials,...don't mean they care for U!!!

[@derekgriffin4703]

So… if it was genetic then what am I not understanding? Was it the meds or not? Confusing to me!!

[@vivahernando1]

You can have a genetic disposition to a disease and do things that increase your likelihood

[@thermaldetinatorsonly8857]

i know a person who's kidneys were ruined by gabapentin. the lesson is , dont trust doctors.

[@frank6250]

Plant based for what?

[@J_Rio11]

Stephen Jackson wants to play the blame game. Respect to Zo

[@Davivd2]

That's not the blame game. It's the responsibility game. If your trainer is responsible for your health, telling you to take a certain medicine that harms your health lands on his head. He took on that responsibility the moment he got into the health care industry. If the trainer did his job properly he would have laid out the pros and cons of taking the medications, and given him options.

[@coreyeatmon5101]

Team doctors manipulate an athletes mindset. Do more. Work harder. Team sacrifice. In the end it may be bullshit that's harmful.

[@Captain_ObviouslyRight]

There's a typo in the Video Title, let me help: "How Vince Carter nearly ended Alonzo Mourning's career"

[@mikeschmidt3382]

Yeah, Vince got him a couple of times before he could get into position, 2 points, so what.

[@bofuthereturn]

you dont really hear about toradol use with nba players.

[@thedon8749]

It is your fault jack you suppose to ask ARE THERE ANY OTHER OPTIONS

[@Jazz313]

Sugar…..Chemicals are hurting our country

[@gregrice1532]

I know how u feel zo I take them for pain

[@grizbear9519]

Here is my question. If marijuana didn't get you high or buzzed, would you still use it to treat "pain"?

[@profitcs8506]

Stephen Jackson wanted Zo to play the victim. Zo is grown for taking accountability.

[@dokholaday2349]

Them rotten pills definitely will have you on dialysis smh

[@adarrinsmith7491]

Indian Rivers finest! Bookers still would taken you down Zoe!

[@dsg3053]

Why was he taking painkillers if you lifting all those damn weights

[@gmac_sports]

Stephen Jackson is correct and to bring up crack is a terrible example we know this bad to take. But if a medical team member gives you something you are trusting that person knows best this ain't some random guy on the street saying hey take this so hell no it wasn't Zo fault at all. If it was a regular doctor at a hospital I bet Zo would be ready to sue them but since its the heat. “Its my fault” GTFOH 🤡

[@tiz6549]

These guys make a lot of money! So there's no reason for them not to keep up with their check ups after their careers are over!

[@davidgivins4203]

Painkillers you took thats made from the medical industry that nba doctors prescribed 😊

[@Seaby41]

I'm on the take responsibility for your own actions. Its seems easy to blame everyone else. But it makes things much harder.

[@dreamtimej]

I broke my femur years ago. They gave me some some kind of opioid. I had diarrhea the next morning. From that time on I stopped taking any of their medications. The doctor had to talk me into to taking an anticoagulant. Most hospitals have guidebooks on prescription medication and their side effects. Most medications they were offering me had like 1% chance of kidney problems and so on. So, when COVID came around I didn’t even consider the vaccine being offered without proper testing. Even if they told me it had proper testing, not happening. I respected everyone’s choice, I didn’t try to convince people one way or the other, but no.

[@MsRotorwings]

Opioids don’t cause diarrhea. They cause constipation. It’s been known since non steroidal anti inflammatories went on the market that long term use can lead to kidney damage. He chose to take them longer than he should have.

[@Melvin-m8s]

They care nothing about your long term health....and it's. Much worse in the NFL

[@MENOLOCE0]

Zo!

[@valp7280]

So did the league cause the issues or is it genetics?

[@zachlipman4941]

Is cannabis the only way to manage pain then?

[@l.r9655]

Zo was just addicted to painkillers but he wants to play the victim here.

[@Kaniala-l7s]

No disrespect but i also think he was mixing it with steroids and alcohol as well

[@dolpo5138]

My dudes, slow down. The NBA didn't manufacture the painkillers. Check ur semantics my men

[@StarvingMyselfToLIFE]

How about all the money they made as a resource? Again taking care of your health should be the priority but for the most part it isn't... Perhaps it could be part of collective bargaining? Life long insurance plans?

[@Ringtaill]

I broke my back riding bulls and broncs in college rodeo. Never took the pain medication they gave me I just smoked weed for the pain. I feel likebit saved my life after seeing friends die from sleep and pain meds

[@Maymaymayok]

😮

[@morganmckinley7946]

SJ trying to blame the powers that be and it’s not surprising

[@criessmiles3620]

U can tell Zo is very mature and may not always vote dem Steven in one hand just a tool Cheers from west Africa 🦅

[@FinalB055]

If you have the ability give your self and any loved ones around you the best present for your birthday, which is another birthday, go get a check up.

[@Earl_E_Burd]

Stack: "No options"? Make millions, or don't make millions. Actin like there's no consequence to taking painkillers... give me a break. Take some accountability. Most jobs exchange vitality for money.

[@wisconsinlonnie4143]

Facts. Looking for a scapegoat.

[@Davivd2]

I don't think that you get his point. The trainer is responsible for the players health. That's literally their job. So if the trainer gives you a drug for pain, and it harms your health, that trainer bares some responsibility for that. They are health care professionals. Tramadol is a prescription drug. That means the trainer should know how many Zo was going through, how fast, and should have been testing his kidney function every few months.

[@wisconsinlonnie4143]

@@Davivd2 I get the point but Zo said it perfectly. He’s a grown man. Trainers are human too. Prone to mistakes & pressure from higher ups. Ask Prince & MJ about just trusting a pill pusher with blind faith.

[@kaydee1485]

​@@wisconsinlonnie4143 but that still doesn't absolve them of responsibility. It's their job to monitor the health of the players.

[@CedtheActor]

​@kaydee1485 thank you... ppl in these comments trying to absolve a billion dollar company just because zo trying to take all the blame foh...

[@muscle99sav]

Def wasnt from the steroids

[@italianwaterice9594]

no accountability......he DRANK booze on meds.... wat he expect

[@brandons2842]

what are NBA Painkillers... lol

[@DM-lj2mn]

Jackson is pushing 50 with the mindset of a 20-year-old. That shit is crazy

[@kaydee1485]

You're dumb for this take. Just because Alonzo is taken on full responsibility doesn't actually mean it was actually all his fault. The medical staff, and the organisation had a part to play in it.

[@SebastianDelacruz-bw1pe]

I’m sorry for your teachers in school. You’re as educated as a brick. Think before you speak , it works

[@DM-lj2mn]

@@SebastianDelacruz-bw1peMan stfu, I never said my opinion was facts. Grow a pair and stop thinking agreeing with Jackson makes you intelligent lol

[@DM-lj2mn]

@@SebastianDelacruz-bw1pe My opinion is my opinion that shit don’t mean it’s factual. You sound goofy af thinking agreeing with Jackson makes you intelligent lol

[@2UGamingProductions]

I think carter ended his career when he posterized him at kinkos

[@joshingram071]

Zo played several more years. Won a ring in 2006 & retired a year later. Do your research & sit down.

[@2UGamingProductions]

@@joshingram071 mourning was washed and was overrated

[@mikeschmidt3382]

@@2UGamingProductionsZo produced a surge off that bench that rallied the Heat to that title. Even if he was a role player at this point it was his heart that helped bring them back. His intensity was off the charts.

[@quinnly]

How is this even considered a show?

[@iamjamesmeeks]

Zo standing on business and taking accountability for his role in it Jack looking to point the finger and blame someone else

[@kaydee1485]

Y'all would absolve a multi-billion organisation and league over allowing a destruction drug but will point fingers at Jack? Just because Alonzo took on all the responsibility doesn't mean other party don't have fault in this as well.

[@CedtheActor]

U lame af for this uneducated point of view

[@Monster3DFx]

Stephen "Victim" Jackson

[@CLEOFISTAYLOR]

Stephen Jackson is extremely annoying

[@dariusvalentine5344]

Since when are steroids called painkillers? Nice try bud.

[@mikeschmidt3382]

It could have been but where are you getting this from? Some dudes have natural genetics along with work ethic. I’ve never heard of Zo taking roids until this comment thread.

[@chinookwusdhuyoquantchr6423]

He needs to go to Dr. Sebi’s ‘Usha Village Institute Of Healing’. He needs to research these healers: Dr.Sebi, Yahki awakens, Kt The Arch Degree, Dr. Latham, Queen Afua, keith Michell(yogi, ex-NFL player),

[@Anti-IsraeliteDefamationLeague]

*OLSKOOL: "I blame NO ONE but MYSELF!" NEWSKOOL: "They didn't give me a CHOICE!"* #Weak #Effiminate #Men

[@raytempus4212]

The brother ain’t too bright.

[@joeburch9220]

Stephen Jackson always playing victim come man

[@fatmanjebis]

I'm an ex pill head.....I feel for Alonzo but understand his point