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On January 20, an inquest in Germany found that Pope Benedict knew about priests who abused children but failed to act.
Now, cases against the Catholic Church over child sex abuse are growing in the United States.
Pope Francis has promised “decisive action” on the issue and encouraged the reporting of allegations.
But survivors’ advocates allege that the church and its lobbyists oppose legislation that could allow more victims to come forward, and fight against the disclosure of important documents.
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[@cvgodd1432]

I’m from Boston and these priests ruined whole communities. The ones who didn’t commit suicide because of their abuse went on to drugs. A lot of them end up becoming the predator too. It’s disgusting and this needs to be addressed, life sentences for anyone who raped a kid no matter how long ago it was.

[@bobdobbs943]

Close down the catholic church.

[@jakec6800]

Death is the only way those people don't regret the hurt they caused they only regret getting caught the only cure is death a slow painful death to warn the others.

[@zazasnruntz7505]

They’ll never give life sentences for that because the predator usually looks like these guys do

[@gabrielchapman2348]

The only way to get them to confess is by talking to them in person where they think they’re safe. Cause if someone admits to raping a child in public, they know exactly what’s going to happen them or that it’s going to be worse than they can imagine.

[@KFLson]

Residential schools were also full of priests

[@RH-iy6vq]

It really is organised crime. And they still have the gall to lecture the rest of us on morality.

[@XXXTentaclez]

Where are the people that preach on every single comment section

[@nightsky2789]

Religious people always been fucked in the head.

[@darkmath100]

"We are one body, Bandits, Police and Mafia, like the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit." - Gaspare Pisciotta

[@fredturner7787]

There is nothing more corrosive to our society than the fact that there are factions of society that are lawless, above the law. Government officials, criminal corporations ie big pharma, banks, big oil, priests and a mulitiude of billionaires go unpunished as the hammer is laid down on the rest of society

[@chuckwaardenburg496]

@@XXXTentaclez Good question. Hopefully hiding their heads in shame..

[@ytho8285]

I love how people are nonchalantly ignoring how the pope knew all of this was going on.

[@prof_kaos9341]

And always has been, Pope Ratzinger, as the Cardinal in charge of what was the INQUISITION, wrote the play book on how to avoid any investigations of abuse.

[@SAAAA1998]

Won't be surprised if he took part in it tbh. Man really referred to preist sexually violating literal kids as "drama". Shits disgusting no matter what angle we look at it from. God help us.

[@jinpachibobochan3532]

The history of the Vatican is full of shite like that. There is even historical evidence of some very sick popes. Honestly, I think that place is where the devil lives if that creature were a real thing. It's a sanctuary for rapists and whatnot to escape prison, etc. - before they are simply relocated to different countries, in small rural communities where they can hide, usually Africa or South America. Stuff like that.

[@abrahamdecruz5128]

Pope John Paul 2 delegated it to Congregation of Bishops. Nothing substantive was done. Only when Ratzinger's CDF got the.mandate he did something.

[@franciosdominique3264]

It’s suppose to be a Secret because they sit in a box 😑

[@singularity3724]

I don't care if you're doing it in the name of the special book or not, if someone confesses to you that they did something this terrible, and you don't tell the police, you should be locked up too.

[@coleh591]

Oh but it's a special magical book ! Following a magical guy! 🤣

[@trla6505]

Doctors and psychologist?

[@ugiboogy1111]

it's so that people feel comfortable going to confession knowing that the priest isn't allowed to repeat what you said. you might not like it but it protects gay people among other groups in the church. if someone confesses a crime the priest will tell them to self report to the police and forbid them from receiving communion until they do so, which can be very effective for a religious person. don't talk down on things you don't understand, it's a sign of low intelligence.

[@SmokeyTube]

@@ugiboogy1111 Confessions can have the exact opposite effect. First of all, being gay isn't a crime in the civilized world, so this confession rule isn't helping any gay people. Secondly, confessions take the guilt away from a person who has done a crime. Once that criminal has gotten his stresses off his chest, he will walk about freely and happily without a care in the world.

[@ugiboogy1111]

@@SmokeyTube Actually, a priest can't release the sin unless the person does penance depending on how serious it is. The priest would say that the sin isn't forgiven unless the criminal turns himself in, and then spends many years repenting and paying back what he did. Someone who touched a child might spend decades going to confession and doing penance, but ultimately might not be forgiven after death. It's not something we can say because only God knows whether that person truly felt bad, paid back his debt to the victim, and never did that again. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of confession and repentance. Also, there are many gay people in the church, many choosing to live celibate lives as nuns, priests, etc. Being gay isn't "a crime" in the church, it's the action of gay s@x that is a sin, just like any other sex outside of marriage. Those people that are gay but find value and life in the church, might come to confession to talk through their feelings and temptations on certain topics. For example, someone addicted to gay porn might come to confession and the priest will advise him how to stop to improve his life. Obviously, if the priest gossiped about this it could ruin that person's life or embarrass them. They wouldn't come unless they knew the priest wouldn't tell anyone.

[@craighaley1658]

And they still don't pay a dime in taxes!!! Anywhere!!

[@tiffakang4525]

This.

[@nickholtz8654]

Perfect front

[@hikoilevasentti7191]

They're pedos man, why u so focused on them taxes

[@Joe-ij6of]

@@hikoilevasentti7191 No filings means no transparency. Also, they use the financial savings to lobby gov't and lawyer up. As for their nonprofit status, it's worse than just not paying taxes. Not only are they building up assets and wealth without paying anything on net revenues, land ownership, or certain payroll items... but all the people that donate to them ALSO get a tax deduction on the donation, thereby encouraging more donations or more regular annual donations, with the bigger savings going to wealthier donors (because it's a deduction rather than a credit). Only 501c3 orgs get that extra tax benefit: all other non-profits do not.

[@janewright315]

@@SammyxSweetheart.02 they're not separate as it is

[@ShOOtinGliTteR]

I'm an ex Catholic. Growing up we weren't allowed to talk about priests touching my (back then elementary school) classmates. The family was outraged when I did. My class was told to pray when we brought it up to another priest. My grandma wouldn't talk to me. Ignored us. Those 2 boys were never the same. Poland.

[@ALtheGreat23]

Never the same? what happened to them?

[@Slavaisusukhrystu]

I'm sorry. Please speak out about your experiences. You are loved.

[@Slavaisusukhrystu]

@@ALtheGreat23 it's very traumatic

[@beli4240]

That is sad. Oh my. You guys tried to help and got ignored. :/ this is why predators get away with it.

[@ginnundso]

Wow. The victim-blaming within the community is so exhausting. So sorry to you and all victims.

[@Olgoofylamesquare]

I remember being locked up with a youth pastor who was married with children who was there for having a ongoing sexual relationship with a 14 year old girl, he got less time then I did for my misdemeanor theft charge.

[@Blissblizzard]

ALL Christian Denominations should unite on this, you sin against a child? There is no coming back, no 2nd chances. Let the sinner be an exiled hermit if he delusionally believes he is actually "religious" after all that mockery of God. Then we don't have to concern ourselves whether he's forgivable or not. Clearly l believe not!!!!

[@AK-wn5ri]

In my country abuse by priests were always covered. There was a case where a priest raped and murdered a nun and it was covered up as suicide. Priest was tried twice, but due to political pressure he went unpunished. Abuse of kids by priests was a non-issue until recently and yet no one was punished. They were either transferred to another parish or country. Priests are considered a ring above normal people as they are man of god.

[@fdddd2023]

why they don't go to the police straight away, what they need churches/mosques for? it' like if some american citizen abuses child and everybody wait for Joe Biden to do something instead of going straight to police

[@TCM1231]

What county was this? Id like to hear more about this story, especially if you have any news articles or anything.

[@Tracey-zr5do]

evil has infiltrated the church and many other establishments/organisations. It is so sad to hear how these horrific crimes are not only happening, but also very deceitfully covered up, making it even more horrific for the victims. Truly horrific! All those who have and still abuse, or cover up abuse are absolutely infiltrated with absolute evil, and they are NOTHING OF GOD'S. It takes the good and the true priests of GOD'S to speak up loudly in numbers and completely rid the church of such an evil infestation. This must be done quickly, in the hope of stopping further abuse with immediate effect. God bless all good, innocent and decent people. 🙏 👍

[@andrewjones575]

The worst people often go to great lengths to gain positions of power, so that they have access to many vulnerable people whom they can target. It's not unique to religion. It's also common in the entertainment industry & institutional settings.

[@Hel1mutt]

@Repeeel19 Amendment good old Matt Gaetz!

[@post-leftluddite]

There's actually truth to that, nearly seven decades of peer-reviewed studies have found that, for example, law enforcement overwhelmingly attracts individuals with Authoritarian Personality disorder who absolutely lust for power and are literally the worst possible candidates for any position of power. It also shows that power doesn't corrupt, it attracts people who are ALREADY corrupted.

[@aubreysnyder338]

Thank you for making they point. Alot of people seem to forget this.

[@barbwire7449]

Yes, but it is so sad, because the little children were betrayed by the ones they trusted the most--their priests. And they expected their parents to shield them from evil.

[@yessica5231]

I am Roman Catholic, however it's been years since I've stopped believing/following the church. I don't attend mass, but I still pray and I don't want these things to fracture my relationship with God. My grandmother's sister stopped going to church because a priest held her back after mass and started touching her inappropriately (happened when she was in her early teens). It was shocking to hear this but even so she was shunned by her family for refusing to attend mass. This defenitely needs to be addressed on a federal level.

[@Slavaisusukhrystu]

Amen :). God has called us to care for the orphan and the widow, so please, continue to campaign to help survivors. It might also be good to find others passionate about helping survivors, Amen.

[@Sicilianus]

if you are Catholic but don’t follow what the Church dogmatically teaches, then you aren’t a Catholic.

[@Ekowal1965]

@@Sicilianus Very convenient Ideology that benefits the cult.

[@Sicilianus]

@@Ekowal1965 yep. the only true cult btw. ¡Viva, Cristo Rey!

[@Sicilianus]

@Martin Luther says who? the bible? Holy Scripture says the exact opposite

[@sdm1568]

Was disowned my most of my family who are catholic because I came out as LGBT years ago, but yet they still go to a catholic church and support and believe in an institution that allows pedophiles to prosper, sometimes I really don't understand life. People do not get what they truly deserve in life most of the times.

[@youtubestudiosucks978]

No way, being lesbian, gay or bisexual is no reason to disown people.

[@StraightFelon]

Drag queen story hour be doin the same thing to kids

[@CatherineLee3000]

@SD M, The family members who disowned you are shallow people. They really need to look at themselves. They are the wrong ones, not you. Just keep on being you!

[@joseayala2940]

sad but true.

[@RNFORLAW]

Ironically, Many priests are GAY.....Oh the hypocrisy of these people ~

[@Athena124]

So if a priest has too many sexual abuse claims against him, the church just transfers him to country less likely to prosecute these things? That makes me sick to my stomach.

[@barbwire7449]

This child sexual abuse has been going on in the Catholic church for decades. It is not going to stop. It is shocking that parents continue to trust their priests, and place their children in harm's way.

[@joaniereed8272]

It just gets to the point where you don’t trust your children with anybody regardless of position.

[@riptaway]

I feel like that should be obvious. I can't believe it was so common to just throw your kids to the wolves and hope for the best.

[@nthabix]

@@riptaway People give Godly status to the priests and think they can do no wrong. Then they hand their kids over blindly to "God". The red flags are seen as God's will🙄 Most molestation is committed by people the kids know yet parents still only teach "stranger danger"

[@nthabix]

Also I don't believe that "these things never happened back in the day. The world has changed" Back in the day it was kept hush hush

[@norah4892]

You should never. You can't know people enough to trust them with your own children. The world was fucķed up place and will always be.

[@mickydale8594]

Let's be honest..some can't even be trusted with their own children lol..so basically its like a toss of the dice when you are a kid...you either get abused some way or you don't..thats just gross.

[@Ammon6]

This are only the cases that occurred in countries where there is an almost functioning judicial system (or countries where if you get away from things like this have high price tags). Just try to imagine what is going on in poor countries where life has almost zero value.

[@MartinusHoevenaar]

Here in Belgium they go free also. Or they are sent to some monestary in the South of France. And looking at how the state & politicians handle people in poverty, life has no value either.

[@eifelitorn]

they talk about it in the video, dawg.

[@Bettie_Rage]

Yup, abuse of children by catholic priests in Africa is pervading. Also, mass abuse of nuns who are used as private prostitutes by priests. It is all well documented. One of the worst abuses of nuns happened in France a few decades ago. The Catholic church has always been a pedo magnet and pedo shelter.

[@aviendha1154]

Way to be disgusting about developing nations. Life has value everywhere. And this isn't that far off to how all rapists and child predators with wealth and power get away with everything. Legal systems everywhere, starting with the cops aren't designed to help victims of sexual abuse.

[@Ass_of_Amalek]

Martin Hoevenaar hardly a surprise in the country of marc dutroux

[@CrystalLopez]

Now I know why the priest did nothing when I confessed about sexual abuse in my home during confession. He literally told me to say 10 hail marries. Asked me to ask for forgiveness... I never told anyone again until I was a teen. This was during my first communion. I never could trust religion as I realized how hypocritical it was at 5. People who speak so high and mighty, yet they are the most horrific people ever. I had the idea of confession, to be honest... like boom, because "god" forgives you all is well.

[@ChristianF15cher]

Christianity is evil.

[@x-popone6817]

@@ChristianF15cher Why?

[@ChristianF15cher]

@@x-popone6817 because it doesn’t value life or family. Luke 14:26

[@x-popone6817]

@@ChristianF15cher That's a non-sequitur. Just because Jesus is the highest value, it doesn't mean life and family isn't to be valued as well.

[@Trigathus]

Confession is to confess your sins, and its secret. If you told the priest outside of the confession and asked for help he can do something then

[@bexsushi9710]

As a kid I use to go church a lot and their were some guys that were very touchy towards me. I was always a bit afraid of being left alone with them and I’m glad I didn’t. Goes to show you that the real monsters know what they’re getting into to get closer to kids. Don’t trust anyone even in church.

[@peaceandlove544]

In my family we are Catholics but even by practicing parents would keep us supervised before priests and teachers

[@naruciakk]

This is really sad to watch for me, as for the Catholic person. I've never experienced the abuse etc., but it's just so appalling that so many bishops and cardinals and regular priests covered these cases.

[@thatdude3977]

What gets me is the failure to recognize predators in their religious communities Mormons, Christian, catholic etc. They always deny it.

[@TheLochs]

Leave your faith. Its a sham.

[@Slavaisusukhrystu]

@@thatdude3977 Hierarchy is the most double-edged institution. There's a reason Jesus warned about calling people teacher or father one earth. We shouldn't put teachers on a pedestal.

[@hiparifu6889]

@@TheLochs leave atheism, it's a scam. Same rule applies if you're gonna be that way. Please be respectful of other people's beliefs as long as they don't intend to harm you or anyone in general.

[@user-lk3gn4dn9o]

@@hiparifu6889 We don't practice "atheism" lol. It's not a cult like Christianity is. Most Atheists just do not believe in fairies and therefore we just get on with our lives without thinking about all this spiritual crap that seems to promote more hate and abuse than non-religions do. If the world was without religion, there'd be way fewer wars and more acceptance of differences. Luckily, the world is opening its eyes to the criminals within this industry (yes, it's an industry, used to control the vulnerable and empower and richen the elite) and more and more people by the day are now leaving it. If there is a God, that's wonderful, but I can guarantee he is looking down in absolute shame at how Christianity is being used by its "leaders" and followers, as this video gives just one small example of its neverending atrocities committed by them.

[@TheOMT]

If ever there was any doubts that the church is a business, this should dispel them. Protecting the brand is always more important than helping victims.

[@jannamwatson]

This is so well put!

[@GeoffRosenstein]

Not just a business, but one of the most unethical ones in human history.

[@cWjkL8ysxOkrH66]

it is THE business.

[@Sicilianus]

the Holy Catholic Church is the true church founded by Christ in 33 AD

[@sasquatchdonut2674]

False. We were instituted by Christ Himself. Mankind can act in a bad way, bruh Christ and the Church can never be corrupted

[@keatonlacretin9781]

Yknow im a christian myself. And its downright shameful to know that these are the people that lead our churches. My catholic nun grandmother (were not biologically related) always told me "there is a difference between your relationship with the church, and your relationship with god" Im understanding that more and more every day.

[@shanebluebutterfly]

But you likely do nothing about it except give them money.

[@Projacked1]

If our 'creator' were to stand here today, my guess? ...no where near what you thought 'he' would be. Funny that God is a he, no? Religion is bred into people, not the other way around. Everything you hear about God is humans talking with no God to back it up whatsoever. You're following a murderous cult, no matter how 'peaceful' you live your life, facts. If God is real, then so are the other 500 gods. So needy to believe in fairytales, truly stunning. All those dead people in the name of God(s), and people still have the audacity to claim 'peaceful'. You conscider yourselves lambs of God, but that would make you what ? Yes...a sheep. Or is that a convenient metaphor too? Ask some deeper questions, et voila, the metaphors come out so quick it's hilarious. It's called population control, because you're not capable of asking the right questions anymore.

[@harmankang6883]

@@shanebluebutterflystupid comment

[@jackk5878]

"Inadvertently protecting pedophiles." I think that you mean 'actively protecting pedophiles.'

[@iwillloveyoursoulifyourepl5557]

The government do that

[@iwillloveyoursoulifyourepl5557]

Don’t matter if it’s priests or not

[@h.Freeman]

What do u expect from the institution that tortured their way across the world in the name of the father the son and the holy spirit

[@aspenschannel7740]

based huey freeman

[@iuliaionelapetcu1411]

@Grim Graven Cemetery What about someone who doesn't have a religion and also despises your religion for the endless crimes against humanity it has committed? I am actually sad a place of eternal torture doesn't exist, so you can all end up there which is what you deserve.

[@xMoon_Moonx]

@Grim Graven Cemetery so if someone is catholic and has a different interpretation they deserve to be killed because what is considered rejecting Christ’s teachings is very subjective and the Catholic Church at that time were known to be their own judge jury and executioner.

[@xMoon_Moonx]

@Grim Graven Cemetery also the definition of a heretic is “ a person who differs in opinion from established religious dogma” the Catholic Church found anyone with a different opinion on Christianity to be heretics and killed them. Do you really believe that deserve to die? Is that God’s will?

[@sushigivesmelife2131]

These are facts

[@brucefulcher2191]

So how do all of our countries justify this complete separation of church as its own nation? These are just equal humans living in the same locations as the rest of us. They NEED to be subject to our same laws and investigation. We are insane for allowing this to go on for so long

[@thanemcewen6737]

The Vatican is it's own nation. Research. If you're faith based question everything about catholicism. You may conclude that a satanic spirit resides with that organization.

[@Noxen74]

I may be mistaken if I misunderstood your statement, but if you are referring to separation of church and state, at least from a north american point of view, means separating religion from the government processes like making laws. Religious figures and followers are subject to the laws of where they live, or they should be at least.

[@brucefulcher2191]

@Gilbert Chen I understand the concept of separation of church and state for the purpose of keeping Church ideals out of government and law. What I find interesting is that we still give things like Catholic churches special conditions when it comes to evaluating investigations by the government or law enforcement. Some church agencies seem to have diplomatic immunity when it comes to certain types of information that gets to be kept confidential. If I am understanding you correctly I believe we agree. I think that all churches in all states should be subject to the exact same laws as the buildings surrounding them. Religion would make an ok history course to take, but it cannot be this legal loophole for laundering money and getting away with illegal things under the cover of religious protections

[@NYHeeb]

I'm 40 from Long Island. I been reading hearing this for my entire life and the church continues to get away with it. The church has too much power.

[@justinnguyen1888]

I’m a devout Catholic. All my life I dedicated my service for my church community. To see this going on in other church communities is just horrendous. I pray those priests get what they deserve, and that’s jail!

[@sasquatchdonut2674]

Same. Although I need to get my safe and sacred training done so I can participate in the ministries because the training I had is expired lol

[@mrbubz6942]

Death not jail

[@justinnguyen1888]

@@mrbubz6942 I personally don’t think we should have the right to decide over whether or not someone dies or lives but that’s just my opinion. Even if that person takes a life or naw. Give in life in prison. Idk that’s just me

[@socom2wasgreat542]

@@justinnguyen1888 lol and the kids dont get to deserve their lifes being completely ruined or flipped upside down from the people your family claims are special people. lol catholics are 100% a cult. Follow the money. They have more money than any business on the planet.

[@General_Junkie]

You say "other" church communities. So are you saying that this doesn't go on in your church community? With the frequency and amount of abuse over the centuries not decades I'd say it's safe to assume it's happened in your community as well.

[@izmark671]

"Oh, they'll pay in the next life..." Every criminal's 'get out of Justice free card.'

[@onlyme219]

True if you believe in a next life, I don't they should be punished while in this life

[@istvansipos9940]

fine. with no crimes in my life, I'l be generous with mankind: I just wanna pay my taxes in my next life. A modest request in comparisson :- )

[@Dutcheh]

@Martin Luther that’s not how he’ll works in catholicism. hell is depicted as brutal. even purgatory sounds painful and that’s for good people

[@presmasterflash7555]

@@onlyme219 I believe in an afterlife and these bastards should pay now

[@theexotic2983]

This is more comforting for survivors than your abuser getting away with it. How many of them died without receiving justice? We must endeavour to serve justice in this life but may the criminals also know that if justice is not served here they won't escape it in the next life

[@nataliemcgovern3087]

This disgusts me! My Irish Catholic family has had 3 generations of this abuse affecting us including myself. When will this finally end?! Does hell have to freeze over?!

[@jmathews470]

Glock 17 to the perpetrators forehead, to me that's justified and justice. Grant them the opportunity to meet the God they preach of!

[@malakatan3235]

When you guys stop believing any religion

[@nataliemcgovern3087]

@@malakatan3235 Forgive me for asking, do you or your family have a religious background?

[@malakatan3235]

@@nataliemcgovern3087 Yep, they seem devout followers, but not too extreme

[@george-trad]

@@jmathews470 I agree and support this!

[@castoreyes]

Church Militant News does a good job at not holding back when tackling these issues.

[@LipstickL]

I'm from the UK, our priest (in London) gave my dad his last rites,we had so much respect for him, he was convicted of numerous counts of buggery.evil bastards

[@tammypatton4182]

It's almost like 2 people in one body right? My condolences to your family

[@alextongue-gr3re]

Your niave for trusting the church. What do you expect, men who have access to children with the upmost respect are going to be up to no good.

[@LipstickL]

@@alextongue-gr3re I totally agree with you

[@andrewjones575]

The perpetrators are often moved to other places by their superiors in order to cover it up.

[@sinstill]

mn

[@profile1172]

give names? from what I know these are old news and many are in jail or died from their age.

[@kowoh]

Ya that happened in Los Angeles diocese. The Priest had over 50 victims. And Cardinal Mahoney, was whisked away by the Vatican before he faced questioning by the police, on why he kept transferring a monster. One of his punishments for molesting a kid was , saying the rosary The church latter settled with the 508 victims !

[@kowoh]

@Repeeel19 Amendment yep exactly but the Catholic Church always takes the Cardinal who transferred the offending priests. And gives them a job working at the Vatican Cardinal law ( Boston cover up ) he died of old age. Cardinal Mahoney ( Los Angeles cover up ) same thing nice job at the Vatican.

[@Blissblizzard]

@@profile1172 Not old news, "therapy" for them, not prayer and penance you note!!! Or defrocking and on a sex offenders list, " the children tempted them you see" like the serpent. Yes secular therapy which is useless against sociopathy and self deceit, then a fresh set of boys in a fresh parish, rinse repeat, ah the banality of evil.

[@ericlarrieu-let5757]

One of the most deeply horrifying details of this report is that they are referred to as "survivors" and not just "abuse victims" EDIT: Alright, I understand now. "Survivor" is a more empowering and reassuring word than just being called a "victim." It didn't have to do with actual death. I jumped to conclusions and made a faux pas. I apologize.

[@Ass_of_Amalek]

what are you talking about? how is that deeply horrifying?

[@BizarreAndrogynous]

@@Ass_of_Amalek Because not everybody who is sexually abused survives...

[@Ass_of_Amalek]

BizarreAndrogynous that's not the point of the word choice.

[@laneatkinson6441]

People have been moving from the word "victim" to the word "survivor" because it indicates the strength it takes to endure and overcome such experiences.

[@davidthibodeau5775]

Lets all pray for all the delusional religious people in this world amen

[@trentmorrison6074]

You know what this reminds me of. If you watched the castlevania anime on the 4th episode, some demon goes into a church and pointed out the preist for all he did wrong. And said "your gods love is not unconditional,he does not love us,and he does not love you" shits already popping to life. Were is that blue demon when we need him?

[@alexxblairee9315]

Any person who harms a child in anyway does not deserve to breath. We need to get rid of all these monsters. They are in our places of worship, school, even sometimes hiding in our own families. Enough of destroying the innocence of the children.

[@RB01.10]

At the same time though I don’t know if it’s our job to decide who lives and who dies.

[@xo0zombiegirl0ox]

I love how the Pope feels ashamed of this violence but cannot understand why we choose not to have children due to trauma

[@janelletaboada6673]

@Grim Graven Cemetery some people who experience sorts of trauma may chose not to have a family due to the fear that they may inflict the same trauma to their future children. Abuse and hurt can be cyclical after all. And to me imo, this is just being responsible. If one has serious issues within themselves, then they should at least rehabilitate themselves first, or at least be ready to accept that parenting is a taxing obligation that anyone without sound mental health might find very difficult. I just think kids shouldn't go through the same trauma just because the parents did too. That's just how you create more messed up individuals in the society.

[@jashsylde8136]

@@janelletaboada6673 u shud not have kids. Ur definitely a pyscho. If someone abused u doesnt give u any medical right/entitlement to abuse ur children.

[@ginnundso]

@Grim Graven Cemetery ... That's literally the point

[@Sicilianus]

the Holy Catholic Church is the true church founded by Christ in 33 AD

[@xo0zombiegirl0ox]

@Grim Graven Cemetery😐😧

[@Rachel-ux9zk]

How about the Pope focus less on couples choosing to have pets over children and focuses instead on what happens to the children who are had by Roman Catholic parishioners.

[@ivanramos8152]

I remember being a kid and being pretty active in my church. I knew my pastor and was part of programs all the time. Then news broke out about how that pastor was a child predator. The next day, people showed up to mass to find that he had hung himself in front of the church. How are you supposed to have faith in the church after that?

[@BlueDesert.]

He did it in front just to disturb people and punish them for finding out. Sick. I choose to believe there’s a special place in hell for people like that.

[@ConservativeCatholic2000]

@@BlueDesert. there is a special place in Hell for that. As a Catholic convert, it always frustrates me whenever I hear or read about the scandals

[@sylviethetg7598]

@@ConservativeCatholic2000 Hey at least the trash took itself out. Also quite funny how my brother did the opposite when he committed not alive as he did it in a hotel room with a note on the door saying he died so nobody had to be traumatized. He was an atheist

[@TonyAMO]

To hell with faith, it takes hard work and an effort to actually be there to build positive trust with people. Then we can start talking about faith

[@greenapple2468]

the only way to stop these evil people is to stop giving them access to your kids. leave the church or educate them at home. parents can put evil out of business just like that. its a revolutionary act.

[@ellanina801]

But their eternal soul is at stake! Also, chances are the kids who are victimized have parents who the priests know wouldn’t stand up.

[@ReprobiCrucesignati]

Polish documentary "Tell No One" is really good regarding this subject. Its astonishing how they go unpunished. Instead of an actual punisment they just get moved to another location and continue to do their things

[@randalt212]

If they can afford lobbyists, they can pay taxes. Stop calling it "The Church" and call it what it is... Church Inc.

[@18booma]

But then how would they afford more golden thrones, premium silk and the best red wine for their pedos?

[@kathrynf2182]

Yes, a criminal organization called Church Inc. Facts.

[@Blissblizzard]

Can we name and shame these Black Mass Bishops?

[@Waldemarvonanhalt]

IMO the solution is very straight forward, if you suspect someone of a crime or are the victim of a crime, report it to the police, not to the superior of the predator. Sexual predators will always seek out jobs that make their predation easiest. These predator priests simply followed what Michel Foucault was teaching people.

[@Blissblizzard]

Points for dissing the Wokish godling.

[@thefreedomishere]

If a priest doesn't tell the authorities about child abuse that priest should be arrested on child abuse cases

[@MadShenans]

Money and power

[@ChristianF15cher]

And taking a vow of poverty is proof that you don’t need money to have power.

[@ChristianF15cher]

@@capturedflame that’s the pope. The average American priest takes an annual salary of about $40K. Still doesn’t matter, RCC is corrupt just like most of Abraham’s religions.

[@GeoffRosenstein]

@@ChristianF15cher but the job has "perks" as we can see in the video...

[@malakatan3235]

Rule of law

[@f.f5771]

Power and Control

[@commonsense31]

Threaten them with removing their Tax exemption if they refuses to give documents to the authorities!

[@TJR-ju8dj]

💯

[@istvansipos9940]

that status should be revoked, even IF they present all those documents. Threaten them with serious prison time. That's what we do in child abuse cases, right?

[@somewhereupthere785]

The problem with confessional is that if Priests have to report abuse, the abusers will simply stop confessing. They will not confess if there are any repercussions. What the church should do is aide the authorities in upholding the law. Any who don't should be charged with obstruction.

[@Blissblizzard]

They are supposed pressure the confesser to turn themselves in, couldn't they withold absolution until they ask for forgiveness in thought word and DEED, as in taking their punishment. How can a pedo priest who is impervious to a child's grievous suffering, brought about by their own utter evil, have a clue about a relationship with God, utterly ridiculous.

[@Azulakayes]

I stopped attending church 7 years ago and my children also will not attend church or any religious institution until they become adults and choose to do so.

[@Raphell28]

They should not be above governmental law. Arrest these guys and get them out of the church

[@Karim-wb7iq]

Nobody said they were above

[@Knightwolf1994]

@@Karim-wb7iq The church and conservative Christians did. They think these monsters shouldn't be punished since they're "Godly men".

[@brucefulcher2191]

Can we get the same investigations in the LDS Mormon church too please 🙏

[@Ass_of_Amalek]

no, of course not xD

[@lindseyhendrix2405]

I believe they’ve covered a story on it before!

[@theriotartist]

Ah the Cult that runs a whole state. Really interesting stuff

[@GuilhermeSilva-lt6rw]

@@theriotartist Christianity itself is a cult

[@jc6800]

The JWs, Scientologists, Fundies. Please. Religion doesn't bar them from prosecution from the federal government. They are not above he law cause they all claim to be the one true religion.

[@Greenpoloboy3]

The whole institution needs to be shut down

[@scottn322]

Has there ever been a case of any agency or organization being able to effectively police themselves? It's completely absurd to think that would work, and yet...

[@Blissblizzard]

@@pattyprolapse Ditto the oxymoron child protection services which is a magnet for chomos because its bringing the kids to them ..... Who watches the Watchers?

[@mwambak1438]

Such pieces never go viral, This should be viral, this should be on every major news (cable) channel. But no it's not. These people should be exposed daily.

[@Malos.Beats.]

Bruh it just came out give it a min lol

[@ChristianF15cher]

I don’t think priests should be exposing themselves to adults let alone kids.

[@godsson2259]

That's why it's up for everybody who watch this video to share it like I just did

[@ecto78]

This is just horrendous. I can totally believe this after reading Dan Brown's books. The corruption always runs so deep. I am so sorry for all those who have been abused. I can't imagine the trauma this caused in their lives. The Catholic Church should be ashamed for preaching one thing and then allowing this to happen. Vice News, I am consistently impressed with your reporting. Keep on exposing!!

[@TheNexusChan]

These are the people who make religion looks horrible. And it's also the reason more, and more, people steer away from religion. It's a shame because it's always great to believe in something and have faith

[@unknown-mx7ib]

Church cannot control every single individual inside it. Lets play logic. In US you got corrupt politician, judges, cops, etc. Can the country caught every one of them and throw them to jail? The reality's no, they cant. Should the country ashamed of themself? Not really. The same thing should apply to the church

[@theshack25]

Dan Brown is pure fiction. Nothing in it his books is based in reality.

[@bastienm.2709]

Yah the Catholic Church is corrupt af but you should know that from a history book not overrated scavenger hunt story. It’s like thinking slavery was wrong because you see how they’re treated in game of thrones

[@matteoironborn7644]

Yes the catholic church has got MAJOR skeletons in its closet but please understand that Dan Browns books are fictitious

[@jinpachibobochan3532]

Honestly, it's dire becuase even I know victims of abuse. Not personally, but it is an open secret in the area where it happens. The priest practiced some kind of 'Rite of the First Night.' He helped poor families with money, but then demanded the virginity of the family's daughter. That's the most acknowledged rumor that goes around. There are so many of that kind, so there must be some truth to it. Well, and aside from that, he collects lots of donations because he speaks people that donated lots of money holy at the Sunday mess. The old generation folks like that for their egos. The church money itself generally goes into making the church look golden and shiny.

[@Blissblizzard]

Maybe if Christians believed like Muslims do that you go where your leader goes when it comes to their version of Heaven or Hell, they would be a bit more "engaged" inbasic child protection, tho your story does sound a bit sword n sorcery, sorry bout that.

[@jinpachibobochan3532]

@@Blissblizzard Not to be rude, but I think Muslim religious leaders are just as corrupt or even more so if we consider the guys hanging out with terrorist organizations like ISIS, Al Shabab, Boko Haram, etc. But you hardly hear anything about it in the news cuz reporters and news stations were targeted for much less. Nobody wants that trouble. Also, to clear things up, the priest guy I was talking about wasn't Christian. He was of a Jehova-Witness-like sect. That "Rite of the First Night" passage was indeed done cuz the guy who did it was recently arrested for it. He didn't face prison cuz the girls were 18+ and "consented" to this. Pretty sure he had some younger girls, too, but that guy is also rich and could afford a good lawyer, I guess.

[@apostolia2124]

If the Pope is devastated from these crimes, he should facilitate their criminal punishment. It's the only honest way to protect Church's reputation and work.

[@AwokenEntertainment]

How can something like religion have such deep ties to this.. never will understand...

[@isbe8810]

Because religions are inherently evil !

[@papi7936]

Cults 🤔

[@Aiden_Muslim]

Oh but when the child/dark market does it which is 92% of it and also non-religious affiliated at all you don't say "athiesm" or anything about it. From when does religion and exploiting children for money correlate together would you care explain that to me? Or will you read and ignore or post one word and the leave without any explanation like you just did? Hypocrite.

[@isbe8810]

@@Aiden_Muslim what the hell is the child/dark market ? Plus every regular person that abuses children goes to jail and it is punished, people in organized religions , use religion to both , attract kids/ people to abuse and get away with it, so I don’t get your point!

[@Aiden_Muslim]

@@isbe8810 It is the market in which people sell children for you know what purposes and yes its One major group with dozens upon dozens of different branches but all working under one flag which is 92% of the child exploit market. It's completely non-religious affiliated meaning they are Atheist's. You might say "Woah woah how do you know that? Yeah sure some are atheist's but there is definitely religious-affiliated people" and I reply to you Exactly, a bishop or pastor who abuses his power and uses to exploit children, what does that have to do with religion? It has nothing to do with religion. For example you never see this in the Muslim, Jewish, or Orthodox Christian communities. If a man does it blame the man not the religion, no one exploits children for religious reasons, only for their own pleasure.

[@johnmoore9862]

The higher officials of the Catholic Church could have stopped this when all these numerous cases were first reported, they chose not to, they put the church’s reputation before doing the right thing & bringing these sex offenders to court to face their victims, they did everything in their power to thwart any enquiry, they did not cooperate one bit with police investigation, they were awkward & pervasive. That’s the true ugly nature of the Catholic Church for you.

[@18booma]

Very true! Any large population will have some sex offenders in. That's just how the odds work out. So the fact that there have been priests that did that, isn't surprising. The true horror is that they were not only allowed to continue, but enabled. The church spending money and resources to protect the predators from prosecution is the most disgusting thing I've ever heard.

[@blackcat-mp7kh]

higher officials of the Catholic Church are also involved into this so how they will stop it

[@Blissblizzard]

@@18booma Which means they weren't protecting the RC reputation they were protecting their little pedo network. Just as kids are often passed around in a circle by networks,. (one of the most chilling aspect of these monsters modus operandi) yes, when you listen to the impact on a teen of being special and "loved this time" and then discarded, passed on every. single. month. for years ... a fortnight before he somehow walks out of a secure psychiatric unit where he's somehow been taking street drugs, and jumps off a roof in a busy shopping centre. They passed the priests around too, fresh pastures, no warning because who wants to take communion from the embodiment of pure evil, fresh countires even, that's not damage limitation, its a ticking time bomb for the Church and win win for absolute scuzzy evil.

[@Blissblizzard]

The Church is infiltrated and often has been before Pope Boniface anyone? It is the number 1 target. I used to work around OTO people, they don't half brag. The Church needs unworldly saints to man up and get real, and degenerates to wise up, not likely ...

[@toriidawdy8456]

Thanks to solid journalism I buried my ballast . "Spotlight" affected me to action on my dissonance . Thanks to vice for it's youthful courage ! I have the ability to live fully .

[@VodShod]

it isn't just the catholic church. It is a problem in pretty much every religious group. Religious groups care more about their reputation than anything else. Just look at the Australian investigation into sexual assault of minors being covered up by religious organizations. Pretty much every religious group above a certain size has cover ups like this.

[@commonsense31]

There are ZERO excuses! Anyone who had anything to do with these Child molestors.

[@metasymplocos]

So this practice of moving the law around came from the Catholic church! Wow!

[@cc-dtv]

God works in mysterious ways

[@bunk95]

Are you reminding everyone that the Catholic Church and all churches are power structures built by the Roman Empire? It’s a government body using a simple story to placate some that are ok with being simple?

[@notize8246]

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[@davidthibodeau5775]

Lets all pray for all the delusional religious people in this world amen

[@wholeshebang1]

@@davidthibodeau5775 - Hahahaha! I'm atheist, so I'm not praying for anyone, but I do wish people would stop indoctrinating their children into _their_ beliefs, when their brains' critical thinking skills haven't developed enough to discern fact from fiction (religion), and by default, children have to trust and depend on their parents for _everything_ to survive, from birth - so they really have no choice until they've been brainwashed into believing nonsense (along with many useful life skills).

[@evankearney4865]

Vice news truly is incredible, God bless you all

[@jdmmg4904]

this will never be forgotten

[@rainningstorm]

Shame on these criminals, taking advantage of the people they were supposed to care and guide for.

[@simple11q]

The sheer evil,malice and greed of the catholic church has not deminished it seems. Even after multiple 100 years. jeez

[@Ass_of_Amalek]

through the middle ages, the popes were basically emperors. they usually were the commanders in chief of europe's biggest military force.

[@AK-lx1cr]

@@Ass_of_Amalek They still are commanders in chief, since the Vatican's Swiss guard counts as an army technically.

[@mad1986ish]

What did you expect? It's the Roman empire

[@lalakuma9]

They have old money

[@jorelldye4346]

1400 years*

[@JoePippin.]

This been happening for centuries. Not just in the catholic church's but church's world wide. I'm a SDA Christian, these people who do this evil things to children deserve to pay

[@tacoman6333]

Thank GOD for this finally coming out. I am catholic and it pains me that the church must go threw this., but happy that it is exposed

[@TonyAMO]

He could have done something about it earlier or maybe not let it happen at all, but whatever makes you more comfortable.

[@maku8075]

Same thing happened in India with a catholic priest accused of raping two nuns. He walked free.

[@Ass_of_Amalek]

people still pretend that mother teresa was a good person, so I think I can guess what the catholic church is like in india.

[@maku8075]

@@Ass_of_Amalek yup true

[@singularityraptor4022]

@@Ass_of_Amalek The catholic schools are basically cults in India.

[@maxpulido4268]

@@singularityraptor4022 They have to be that way because Hindutvism is so hostile.

[@maxpulido4268]

Honestly it's India. The only reason it made news is because a Catholic did it. If it was a shiv sen you'd start victim blaming tbh.

[@thomasspainhour1112]

Thank you. Don't let up exposing these vile priest who claim to be the vicar of the Savior of the world 🙏

[@elennet4116]

Believe in Jesus

[@istvansipos9940]

@@elennet4116 any good reason to do so?

[@CodyKendall1]

@@elennet4116 No.

[@vozism322]

My parents used to send me on a Church Summer Camp during the summer for a couple weeks. They drive children hours away for a couple of weeks no phones, just a backpack. Lucky I was fat and ugly as a child, but unlucky for the other children

[@oneanddonetzone3673]

This is not uncommon in the world. It’s the old buddy network. Let me explain I’ve been in medicine for over 30 years. I have seen terrible practitioners and I’m not talking about sexual abuse I’m talking about people who were absolutely inept and sloppy and downright dangerous in surgery. I’ve seen patients and their families suffer great loss completely related to negligence. It’s cost me several positions because once you bring this elephant in the room two administrations attention you are then deemed an outsider a problem child. And you will be punished! Bad actors and people with weak skills tend to congregate in little groups and little clicks form.

[@paulappleyard5832]

They are exporting their abusers because they don't want to deal with it. They think it infers something about their beliefs. The people would prefer honesty and reporting of these preditors to local law.

[@ehrgeiz5649]

Inadvertently? Seems pretty intentional to me...

[@unmermaid]

Had that same thought.

[@davidm1149]

I don't understand how people expect institutionalized insanity to actually benefit society, or better yet how fighting them on their grounds will avail anything. I live among the insane.

[@jenskarlsson4744]

IT WILL NEVER END !!! IT HAS BECOME A PART OF IT !!!!!!!!!!!! DONT LEAVE YOUR KIDS ALONE AND NEAR CHURCHES PRIESTS !!!!!

[@jerromjoseph3185]

I'm a 25 year old, as someone who was abused multiple times when I was 8-9 years old, it's unimaginable to think how many people had to go through it. But because of my curiosity, what i believe is the main root for this issue is not letting them marry. Or a total shut down of these religious organizations. Edit : i just mentioned marriage in my short comment, the purpose was mixed up, why I said marriage is not only for them to have a sexual relationship, but to get an intimate relationship. I mean making it illegal makes a lot of people get more pleasure from doing it. Point 2: a lot of people are born psycho, with a twisted mind, a lot of them are able to hide it and lock it deep inside only because they have an average loving family, either when they were young or once they are married.

[@joseloera5849]

I'm sorry for what happened to you, I wanted to say that not letting them marry isn't the problem, there are many child molesters that are married, the problem is the filters, most of these priests were accepted a long time ago when there was no psychological examinations to become a priest, so sociopaths and pedophiles could easily enter the church.

[@jaayaa8457]

Priests are definitly not the followers of Jesus (peace be up on him). You should wonder which religion is

[@kennyd6738]

Not marrying? The cause is gay priests, notice very few of the children molested by priests are female. Most of the victims are post puberty, and the gay community has a huge problem with older men thinking that sexual contact with a thirteen year old boy isn’t abuse

[@omnipotentpumpkin9755]

They claim that they are the reason people are civilised and that it would be chaos without their religion but the truth is they are the devil responsible for almost every single bad thing that happens in the world. They only claim that because they know the world would be better off without them. The bible is how the Devil tricked us into worshipping him and the sooner we destroy religion the sooner we destroy the Devil.

[@catarinaoliveira5641]

I think not being able to marry is definitely playing a role in these sexual abuse cases. No other religion in the world has the same problem on the same scale. Being a celibate goes against human nature and definitely messes with one's mind. They are not able to live their sexuality in a normal, natural way, hence they resort to abhorrent ways of living it.

[@reexhuan8925]

they cover it up and make it harder to be charged simply for the sake of saving money and it is simply horrendous that this could happen

[@phaedrus000]

It amazes me that people in cults are surprised when the leaders use their position to abuse the followers. That's the whole point of cults, guys.

[@brianschneide0]

vice is on roll. keep it up.

[@rajannarendra]

When a group of people starts to act like an institution in the name of religion, then we all can go ahead and assume all kind of scandals happening there. No religion can be exempted from this cause we have examples all over history.

[@livingood1049]

Soooo tragic. Thank you for bringing this story up and into more peoples awareness. This very real issue, which is to cover and evacuate criminals, rather than expose and prosecute them. God forbid (No pun intended) they lose some donations or tax free status for harboring a felonious culture within. The mental anguish of the young lives these losers have destroyed is unforgivable. I figure since evil has risen to the highest levels in the Vatican they must believe that the worst evil possibly perpetrated on a good human soul is their satanic duty...

[@adriannepeterson6347]

Horrific and traumatic- the issue is bad in my country as well. The Church needs to have a good hard look at itself and rethink in a major way. Church and State (politics) should no longer be so intertwined- this is the 21st Century, not the 10th Century

[@sleepydaboss22]

I went to Sunday school when I was 13 for my first communion and I do remember the preists there acting Hella friendly to both the girls and boys. I don't know if anyone was being molested but who knows. Dude always gave me the creeps

[@danielgriffin8132]

You don't need anyone to talk to God for you. IT'S free you can pray at anytime. You especially don't need a criminals advice.

[@michael6009]

@@capturedflame he means praying probably

[@istvansipos9940]

parayer is not a talk to any deity, though. It can make you feel better, and that's a good thing, but there is no reason to think that any entity is listening to you

[@istvansipos9940]

@@capturedflame it often makes the praying person feel better. So yeah, mental masturbation is a fitting term.

[@danielgriffin8132]

@@istvansipos9940 I believe God hears his children praying. And God answers prayers 🙏 I really don't care what others believe 🙏. It's between them and God.

[@TryABaconSlice]

And still people insist organised religion is benign and not a tool to prey on the weak and gullible members of society

[@lukeskywhiskers5393]

Boost

[@hmzzrg5045]

sure put all organised religions in the same basket makes sense when this video is about one branch of one organised religion

[@butterchuggins5409]

@@hmzzrg5045 Can you name one that doesn't do this?

[@hmzzrg5045]

@@butterchuggins5409 huh? never heard of imams or rabbis raping children. Or even other priests that are not part of the Catholic branch.

[@ChristopherShreeve]

@@hmzzrg5045 just because you haven’t heard of it doesn’t mean it never happened. The point is sexual abuse is common in organized religion because of the power being a priest/rabbi/guru gives people. Being seen as holy and a leader feeds the ego and attracts narcissists and psychopaths. They even call their followers sheep I mean how is it not obvious that the whole industry of religion isn’t just a giant scam?

[@Waldemarvonanhalt]

In the past, the church typically punished these crimes with execution or life imprisonment in secluded monasteries.

[@Nicky_TM]

The system is so extremely flawed everywhere, so many people get away with crime because it’s simply too expensive to sue them

[@flawseeingeye]

the funny thing is these people who made god and religion their life truly dont believe god exists. if they did believe, they would never do these things because they know god would punish them.

[@alii7004]

That's becuase they are not concrete on their faith hence more vulnerable to the whispers of satan, any religious man is not safe from commiting sins but sins like these are more dark then others and they definately don't have true faith or oneness of God hence why most of them commit these horrible acts

[@lalakuma9]

I really do think that a lot of powerful people are hypocrites. They deliberately pursue positions of power so that they can abuse it, they don't actually believe in moral values or serving others.

[@asmooshi9752]

@@alii7004 that makes no sense they litterly became priest lol dont be so naive

[@billcom7066]

@@asmooshi9752 it doesn’t matter if they become priests they are doing it for a worldly gain. Look at their true intentions it literally is being exposed.

[@alii7004]

@@asmooshi9752 priest is just a title, even in other religions I.e Islam, people claim to be saints/priests who actually use/worship the devil to fool people into thinking they have spiritual powers. A real Saint in any faith is hard to come across as they don't proclaim their title or have aims for worldy gains or con their followers.

[@warcraft3inmymind]

one of the best decision i ever made was leaving the church last year. honestly; u think american is bad? look at the cases and cover-ups in germany. truely sickening to the core

[@Ekowal1965]

I think that a lot of those sick men chose priesthood because would get access to a large number of potential victims and cover & immunity for their crimes. For hunters of years this cult has indoctrinated victims from birth that it is only through them you can achieve "salvation"

[@warcraft3inmymind]

@@Ekowal1965 exactly. there was one case in germany where they had one priest, that got into a scandal, because he was groping minors, the church made sure to tone down the allegations, have him transferred to a different city and sure enough, roughly 5 weeks later the same allegations in a different city for the same guy. how he avoided prison is beyond me.

[@warcraft3inmymind]

@Grim Graven Cemetery problem is that i also don't believe in christianity anymore. after watching some documentaries and little bit of research, i just came to the conclusion that christianity just doesn't make sense to me anymore. so why supporting something i don't believe in? let alone, that (since i live in germany) they subtracted over 50 euros every month just for being a christian. which religion charges u monthly for your belief? so everyone who is a christian but stepped out of the church, at least to me, is a respecatble one. everyone who even donates, even though they don't want to, but they sorta support child abuse in my opinion.

[@warcraft3inmymind]

@Grim Graven Cemetery it goes to church, so they do whatever they want with it. and again, if u are believing in it, sure, pay it, but why should i, if i don't even believe in it anymore? let alone the fact that i even had to pay just to get out. and sure, u don't have to donate, but, as i said, they take a part of your monthly income, they don't pay taxes and then have the audacity to hand the coinbag around. not saying it goes directly into supporting child abuse, but then again, who says it does or doesn't? in germany there was a case where they offered, i think it was about 1.000€ for a total of ~100 victims(!) of sexual abuse from the church, yet they invested 100.000 in marketing agents to make them look less bad in the public eye. no way i'm gonna support that

[@Thatsme849]

@Grim Graven Cemetery definitely not a mistake! Religion is a waste of time and money. And for what?

[@African_experience]

Any institution that forbids reason(blasphemy) and encourages belief should raise your suspicion.

[@josem.romeroromero5305]

I will pray for those victims. Their lives were ruined by these monsters. As young as 4 years old.

[@lkym2481]

Catholic learning time: just in case someone doesn't know, citing the practice of the confessional as a reason to not share damning information is sidestepping the issue. Catholics see confessing their sins as a very important ritual, hence the secrecy of it is sacred and that's why they supposedly want to keep it secret. HOWEVER! Parishioners have long been telling church authorities about abuse OUTSIDE of confessional. It's really comparing apples and oranges. Sending a letter to the bishop telling him he's wrong is not a sacred rite of the Church. I'm disappointed the video completely glosses over this.

[@brijbhansingh9469]

Am glad that western media is finally covering this, thanx to vice. In India too the same thing happens and culprits are off without any charges.

It has been covered a lot, but only minor progress has been made.

[@reper8406]

In india this happens in mandir

[@xMoon_Moonx]

@Grim Graven Cemetery oh my god you will do anything to defend the church won’t you? Yes the problem is that big. You need to putting the safety if children over your own personal feelings about the church. You will ignore ignore and downplay the thousands of hurt kids to persevere your church reputation.

[@LL-oq5sf]

In Keralam, there was recent case about a bishop...

[@Blissblizzard]

@@LL-oq5sf Then there is sacred prostitution in the temples, ancient problem.

[@tyronegreen6165]

WE THANK YOU ALL

[@danielk9409]

Absolutely despicable, Reprehensible!!!

[@tylerhackner9731]

The powerful always get away with it

[@dogmathree6]

…only if we let them

[@foxibot]

@@dogmathree6 love your comment! That’s right, only if we let them! Great attitude, great comment. We have to stop them!

[@MrLoobu]

"BUT IM OLD WHITE AND SAINTLY" well that does check all the boxes, I guess we cant charge him.

[@FRISHR]

They have been doing this since at least the 4th Century Roman Empire era.

[@tiggercampbell6198]

and now they are asking for law enforcement..smh..

[@penguin902]

Amazing how suddenly there aren't any comments about some silly "Vice agenda"....vice doesn't have an agenda. They just make content and its relatively honest and factual

[@wishpunk9188]

Lol if you say so. I'm glad we have a board member in the comment section.

[@penguin902]

@@wishpunk9188 You left comments claiming Vice is spewing propaganda but only on Vice videos about Trump. You suddenly say "Yes Vice you're doing good work!" when they report on something negative in Africa. You're clearly clueless and racist. You'll pretend you're not but...I'm literally looking at your stupid comments.

[@wishpunk9188]

@@penguin902 SJW logic.... you are a "racist" now for pointing out corporations have agendas.

[@dearthunderstorm4062]

@@wishpunk9188 your entire “aestethic ” is the cheesiest saddest thing I’ve ever seen

[@wishpunk9188]

@@dearthunderstorm4062 uh oh... another butt hurt sjw. Go save us from verbs, free speech, and pronouns or something. Make sure to delete all your comments though.

[@tclements8331]

all these old institustions that protect criminals have to go

[@LifeStrike2030]

Abolish the catholic church

[@red---paulvanravenswaay2247]

Keep it up vice!!

[@anastasiav3766]

Great Polish documentary with English subtitles “Tell no one” showcases how these predators are protected. Full documentary here -> kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKO4p4RpjJihjJY