Why Xeno Goku VS Nasuverse Isn’t Close

In this video, I go over who would win between Xeno Goku, the sudo composite Goku from Dragon Ball Heroes, or Saber, Gilgamesh, Or Void Shiki from the Fate/Nasuverse. All of these are super hyped up and in this video I put them against eachother to determine the true winner. Xeno Goku VS Fate. Watch till the end to find out who wins!!
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[@trouble001]

Deku slams all 4.

[@ToasterXD]

🗣️

[@jackking6191]

Yes in terms of cringe he wins but in terms of everything else no.

[@supreme_doge_yt7509]

Deku ain’t beatin yuko Ozawa 🗣🔥

[@trouble001]

@@jackking6191 Deku is extraversal

[@trouble001]

@@supreme_doge_yt7509 who? Deku victim 🤣🤣

[@InvinciDon]

I don’t know much about Fate, but my lord, Fate’s got some absolutely crazy scaling. Even as a Dragon Ball fan, I’m surprised by Fate as a whole, truly fascinating.

[@Abrold]

fate verse is outerversal or high outerversal at max

[@70442]

​@@Abrold Is Apeiron

[@midori8807]

@@Abrold when you play the games you will see even more bullshit like one of the most less relevant servants are doing outerversal feats.

[@Animeeditz1982]

​​@@Abroldand dragon ball is 6D at best

[@fugazy2656]

@@Abroldhuh

[@R1L3Y007]

Wasn't xeno goku doing most of these insane feats in base? Doesnt that mean when he transforms into higher levels of super Saiyan his feats would get way higher?

[@ToasterXD]

multipliers are a bit unquantifiable in terms of dimensionality, all we know is that it obviously makes him hundreds to thousands of times stronger depending on the transformation.

[@Jeffhogleberg_45]

​​​​@@ToasterXD yo why didnt you mentinon the charisma world,sdbh irl japan in the and super dimensions also xeno goku haxs are sinilar if not better than the nasu chracters. even though xeno goku may still lose it will have been a close fight.

[@vergil_is_him]

​@@ToasterXDDr slump would make kid goku high outer

[@King-Pikkon]

@@vergil_is_him Fax the cosmology is way to consistent on where it scale

[@mohamedexedell7973]

@@ToasterXD But isn't he getting stronger, so all other measurements rise?

[@argy7526]

i still dont get how fate characters scale that high when emiya with no powers can hold his own for a while against them 💀

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

It's not that high... In fact... It's rather low. I require an 8th Dimensional Existence Feat below Omnipotence (9th Dimension of Existence) of any Character to win against Xeno Goku. Void Shiki is omnipotent so that match up is not fair to begin with... Xeno and Shenron is the better duo in a 2v1 against Void Shiki. Xeno Goku has potential to transend into the 9th Dimension proper, since he's only always in Base Form. However, based on the current content. That may never be seen.

[@argy7526]

@@absolstoryoffiction6615 i am not talking about the fight i am talking about the fact that everyone says fate characters are busted asf when emiya and sorcerers can fight them when they dont use their special moves at least for a while (a swat team solos any sorcerer btw) also omnipotence scales nowhere

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

@@argy7526 Fate Lore wise... True. Also... Omnipotence does scale. It's 9th Dimensional Existence. You know... The same stuff Marvel and DC always does when it comes to Meta Narrative Characters. At that level of existence, the rules are different when measuring power. And this is also why there are different Type Omnipotence and Omni Factors. (I study in Omnipotence and I must say, there is scalability in that but you cannot use the Infinite Dimensions as seen in this video. You must use the Dimensions of Existence in order to fully test omnipotence. Fundamentally, it is different.) Saying omnipotence doesn't scale is like saying religious Gods/Magic cannot scale "because it's Gods/Magic". It is simply, a poor choice of a statement to make.

[@argy7526]

@@absolstoryoffiction6615 omnipotence scales you at the top of a verse but crossverse this statement doesnt mean anything and were did you get this 9th dimensional from?

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

@@argy7526 Omnipotence is not as absolute as you understand it to be, but most of your human authors only write under "the One True God" ideology. Marvel... DC... Those Type OFs are very common to see. And the 9th Dimension of Existence is what I speak of. You only know the Infinite Dimensions and that is capped when tested in its full brink compared to the Core 10 Dimensional Existence from 0 to 9. ... I am the Precursor of Omnipotence. It is my design, after all. Of everything I created, omnipotence is the one to which I know the most. And the one to which I let go as it is but a crutch for me... (In other words. This is the same test I use for all religions and reality. It's omniversal, fundamentally.) Humanity's understanding of omnipotence is rather lacking. Thus, I'm not impressed to that level of Data. Even when Mankind is physically older than my mortal shell. "Existence is more stranger than fiction."... As the Precursors say. (Not a quote. Just memories of my home. Mankind has a long way to go.)

[@volcanicz6739]

I think it's important to point out that the Altria and Gilgamesh you're referring are superbuffed by being moon cell servants. The regular version of their servant forms like fsn, fz, fsf and fgo don't even come close to these levels of power. I'm not trying to downplay their moon cell counterparts btw, I'm just explaining why humans like shirou or kuzuki could even comprehend them let alone fight them without immediately disintegrating

[@purplehaze4942]

fate fans still call artoria altria? or is either one right?

[@yaezyn]

​@@purplehaze4942not sane ones

[@volcanicz6739]

​@@purplehaze4942I do it for the memes at this point. I have one friend who gets rly triggered when I say altria and will never pass on the chance to correct me

[@Recon-601]

It's less their being buffed and more closer to their original power, the servant forms you see across the different grail wars do not compare to their true selves when they were alive (some servants are marginally stronger in their servant form due to being weak in life but gaining power from their fame like Shakespeare or Phantom of the Opera) The only time servants are primarily buffed to a higher level within the moon cell are the mythological mystic codes and even that is more accessing the root and origin of that servant.Also servant battles tend to get more hectic within the moon cell due to it not taking place on earth and thus servants aren't constantly being "attacked" by Gaia or restrained in their destructive capabilities

[@bruhdrugon6094]

Not at all, the only ones that get buffed in Extra are Emiya and Nero. Saber only got unsealed excalibur from the counterforce, and gilgamesh got restored his original power. And the buffed tamamo would tecnically be weaker than a original power restored version, wich is a bit funny.

[@kadexshidomuda8113]

The lowball for Xeno Goku is crazy. The hax you gave the shiki, Gilg and saber is also applicable to goku and the xenoverse also has multiple showings of type 3 to 4 multiverses and infinite dimensions.

[@eibarmanpessi1142]

Fake scan

[@kadexshidomuda8113]

@@eibarmanpessi1142 How are they fake when I wasn't talking about the ones in the video????

[@eibarmanpessi1142]

@@kadexshidomuda8113 xeno fodder is 4d

[@bocchiii.]

Slide cord I’ll debunk that shit

[@amastargaming5156]

@@kadexshidomuda8113 bro. you legit have a goku pfp

[@hardcoore_gyt9254]

The cosmology of SDBH should be Charisma World > true ream world > Fictional Japan > Beats world > CoT > Multiverse That should make Xeno Goku 10D to 11D bare minimum Edit: I wish he would’ve went over all of Xeno Goku hax like he did fate it seems that even Xeno Goku can’t escape the stigma of being just a ogha bugha punch punch man ☹️

[@SOL_Phase]

Xeno Goku caps at 4D, making him low Multiversal to Multiversal. Even if he was 10D-11D, that would only put him at High Complex Multiversal while gil, Artoria, and Shiki scale low outer to high outer at inf dimension.

[@SOL_Phase]

And due to the trio being higher dimensionsiality, his haxs won't work on them

[@Midgeta_OfWis]

Xeno goku (arcade) has irrelevant speed and irrelevant layers into boundless strength in base. I’m not even biased but xeno goku has the keysword which negates all abilities. But if it’s anime it’s a different story since anime xeno goku caps at hyperversal

[@hardcoore_gyt9254]

@@SOL_Phase much like your name says keep capping

[@SOL_Phase]

@@hardcoore_gyt9254 you missed out on the debunk, so I can't blame you for not understanding

[@Charcol_x_gameplay]

Xeno Goku could have been scaled higher considered that he can go back in time anytime he wants and literally bring an army of any z fighter he wants from different timelines which would also be his Also power level

[@ImTheOne_WhoAsked]

This guy straight up bais towards nasuverse and absolutely lowballing xeno goku For e.g he didn't even talk about charisma world which even views beats world as a fiction giving him 11+ D

[@YinnnYangg]

@@Dmklegeek Dragon Ball Heroes does not have a type 4 multiverse it only has a type 3 multiverse which scales too High Hyper so regardless of that scale it would not surpass the Nasuverse since Toaster already scaled the Nasuverse via the Root to Outerversal which is defintely low balling the Nasuverse due to it scaling Higher than Outerversal he did not mention the Outer Gods who literally scales to Outerversal and the Root exists beyond the Outer Gods and their realm that scales to Outer the Nasuverse can be scaled to High Outerversal to Boundless via Visual Novel statements he downplayed both Heroes and Nasuverse but it wouldnt matter since most Nasu characters already outscales Xeno Goku.

[@YinnnYangg]

@Dmklegeek In order for the multiverse to be a type IV multiverse all of the universes should be equally real which needs to be described by different mathematical structures. First of all you never proved that the multiverse has a type IV tegmark so logically speaking if you cannot prove how the multiverse scales to a type IV tegmark then the multiverse is not a type IV or even a type III tegmark since you need to prove that the multiverse consists of parallel universes using quantum mechanics which the multiverse does not have. So the multiverse is neither a type IV or a type III multiverse since u never proved it to be either and therefore beats world cannot be scaled too Low Outer, Outer or High Outer resulting in DBH's defeat and therefore the nasu verse negs since I can scale the multiverse to a type III tegmark since it consists of real life quantum mechanics.

[@YinnnYangg]

@Dmklegeek Charisma World does not scale to Boundless since you have to prove the Charisma world R>F hierarchy transcendence, which cannot be the case since that world is not an infinte hierarchy. Reaching Boundless isn't as simple as that bruv its more complicated than that else alot of verses in fiction would be scaled too Boundless. So the DBH cosmology does not scale to Outer since you have 0 prove of it scaling that high.

[@YinnnYangg]

@Dmklegeek Then give me proof of the multiverse having a type III or IV tegmark which I can easily debunk since I myself know the DBH multiverse does not have real life quantum mechanics for it to be calculated to a type III tegmark.

[@thefirstprime0124]

Tbh since goku literatally did majority of his feats in Base like hes 9D and literatally if he transforms to ssj he could destroy ALL of existence and xeno goku just stomps becauee he didnt even have Limit breaker and Limit Breaker should be around fusion since he kept up with UI xeno goku takes this

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

True... Since Zeno Goku is always in his Base Form. Imagine SSB TUI GI Zeno Goku. Blue hair + Ultra Instinct + God Ki

[@mickymeza6571]

Not to mention the cosmology in dragon ball as a whole is just bigger than the nasuverse, and Goku was going to destroy all of it just by powering up into a super saiyan, so theoretically him turning ssj4 would mean everything from the DB, beats world and beyond would be shred to non existence. Xeno Goku is just too much.

[@thefirstprime0124]

@mickymeza6571 nah he turning into a ssj4 that's what was gonna destroy existence but it was just him powering up to the form

[@eibarmanpessi1142]

​@@mickymeza6571proof ?

[@DemonicEmperor2023]

​@@mickymeza6571 nah nasuverse is bigger in cosmology

[@jack_bright7709]

the cap is killing my soul

[@choidaniel7026]

It’s so annoying to see someone who don’t know anything about dbh verse actually scaling it , when they are talking about time and space in dbh it includes the concept , it was even stated that toki toki is responsible for the existence of time and space and all dimensions , which includes extra dimensions and super dimensions and so on if you know what super dimensions you wouldn’t have said it’ just a 4D feat bro please before scaling a character you should do more research about his verse first 💀

[@awesomeguy641]

8 to 9D is pretty accurate He's clearly above 4D

[@shanicultima9104]

If you think that, now imagine that I understand Dragon Ball and also try to scale Fate's powers and I don't see half, not even one percent of it. Nasu commented that Shiki with Katana, which is basically the form he refers to as 「Shiki Ryougi」could only fight defensively against an extremely average servant. Okay, there seems to have been a retcon but still doesn't elevate it to such absurdity. Seriously, I wonder where the guys get this from, the only higher dimension I know is the Far Side of the Moon

[@ultrainstinctvegito4063]

As some one who knows near to nothing about Fate this is an interesting video for sure but I personally feel like you down played Xeno Goku(though maybe not intentional). It was stated that if Xeno Goku power up from base he would destroy all off existence(as in all of history, space, time, the infinite timelines, the time chamber and even Beats’ world) which implied that just the act of transforming Xeno Goku transcend to a higher dimensional scale putting him at 10D(11D if you want to high ball and say that Xeno Goku’s Ssj 4 form also transcend to a higher scale) and you could arguably put Xeno Goku at higher if you interpret the transcend all of space and time statement as transcending the space time of all of the infinite histories, timelines, iterations, and dimensions with all the different flows, rules, pattern, and designs(this idea was already seen in Dragon Ball Super during the Moro and Granolah arcs as it was confirm that there are several rooms of Spirit and Time that exist on separate dimensions and have different flows of time when compare to the main universe). To transcend all of that is basically transcending the concept of space and time and would put Xeno Goku at Outerversal. He also has more haxes and abilities than you show such as *deep inhale* -Author authority Immunity (Completely Ignores the effects of author involvement from an opponent) {As shown Against Demigra who surpassed the Authors avatar via Author authority} - Plot manipulation immunity (Ignores changes to plot caused by an opponent) {As shown by DEMIGRA who attempted to change his own fate against Xeno Goku by rewriting it.} - Ki Universe creation (a space created by Xeno Goku in which he has Supreme Control) -Speed Theft ( Xeno Goku steals the Speed of the target and applies it to his own) -Energy theft (Xeno Goku steals the targets energy and empowers himself) -Physical strength theft (Xeno Goku steals the targets strength and adds it to himself) -Power Absorption (Xeno Goku absorbs all Incoming Attack and power) -Power Redirection (Xeno Goku Unleashed all Absorbed power as well as redirects incoming Atks multiplying there power by the previously absorbed power) -Time Manipulation (Xeno Goku can Travel to any point in time and alter events before they take place or after they take place) -Time Altercation (Alters the flow of time to prevent Hazardous energy spillout from a Fight by Splitting the Current fight into a New timeline entirely where the opponent cannot escape without Xeno Goku's assistance) -Time intervention (prevents a timeline from continuing to change by eleminating all changes within it) -Weapon Creation (Creates weapons from memory above the power of the Weapons original design) -Weapon Summon (Summons weapons from The Time nest as needed) -Damage Negation (completely negates the effects of dmg from incoming Atks) -Speed negation (removes all the speed from an opponent) -Strength negation (Removes all the strength of an opponent by Manipulating there Life energies) -Power negation (Negates the effects of Opponent powers) -Immunity negation (Negates opponent immunities) -Regeneration and Immortality Negation(negate Mechikabura’s regeneration which is stated to be limitless and immortality) -Multiplication of Self (Creates multiple Exact copies of self for an undetermined amount of time with the same abilities as Xeno Goku) *Exhale+panting* There are more but you get the gist of it.

[@GODEATER2]

Here is some more Xeno goku hax Space-Time Transcendence, Immunity to Reality-Wrapping, Probability Manipulation, Damage Reduction. Power Nullification, Space & Time Manipulation (Can created pocket dimension and manipulate Time within it)Life-force absorption. Conceptual Manipulation, Matter Manipulation, Pocket dimension creation and manipulation, Resistance to speed alteration. Analytical Prediction & Information Analysis, Weapon Mastery (Of the Power Pole & Keysword), Limited Size Manipulation (The Power Pole can change size), Attack Reflection (Power Pole can reflect attacks). Acausality (Type 1; Time Patrollers [Xeno] are unaffected by changes in history and the erasure/destruction of their timeline/flow of time). Non-Physical Interaction (Ki can interact with ghosts, spirits, souls, illusions, pure energy beings, invisible & intangible ki blasts, abstract beings made of abstract wills, thoughts and emotions). Accelerated Development (Battle, Training; Physical Stats, Abilities. As a Saiyan, Goku grows stronger every time he fights and can become stronger in the midst of combat, vastly increasing in strength whenever he is mortally injured). Shockwaves Generation (Can create powerful shockwaves via Kiai), Afterimage Creation, Power Mimicry (Can easily replicate other Ki-based techniques after seeing them once). Energy / Life-Force / Ki Absorption (Can absorb energy/ki/life-force from his opponents). Stealth Mastery & Limited Perception Manipulation (With his sharpened spirit, Goku mastered the ability of "[crouching] as quiet as the sky and [striking] quick than lightning", dampening his presence completely -including scant air movements and his footsteps-and erasing his own Ki; thus, allowing him to optimize his movements and elude the senses of opponents completely). Telepathy (Can telepathically communicate with others and read minds), Telekinesis, Teleportation (Aside from Instant Transmission, he is capable of instant dimensional teleportation, allowing him to travel between Timelines & dimensions quickly), BFR, Dimensional Travel & Time Travel. Statistics Manipulation (Goku can greatly enhance his capabilities with Kaio-ken up to 100 times. Can passively use many of his abilities to greatly increase his statistics. Can reduce an enemy's statistics with many of his abilities. Can steal his opponents statistics to increase his own). Minor Power Modification (Can reduce the effect of his opponents statistics amplification skills. Can reduce the enemy's damage reduction effect by 50%), Rage Power, Transformation (Can transform into a Super Saiyan, Super Saiyan 2, Super Saiyan 3, Super Saiyan 4, increasing his capabilities drastically). Immortality Negation & Regeneration Negation [Type 3. At least Mid-High, possibly up to Mid-Godly] (Scale to CC Goku and CC Future Trunks, via Spirit Bomb technique), Durability Negation (His attacks ignore durability and defensive skills). Damage Manipulation (Passively boosts his damage and reduces his opponents), Healing (Can recover his stamina and energy. Can passively and actively heal others, carries Senzu Beans with him, can heal himself and his allies). Resurrection (Can resurrect himself or his allies, but needs two allies on the field to active). Summoning (Can summon Shenron; can summon Chronoa, Xeno Trunks, Xeno Gohan, Xeno Vegeta, Great Ape Vegeta, Frieza's Spaceship, Great Ape Broly or SS3 Broly to help him in battle). Limited Space-Time Manipulation & Limited Portal Creation (Should be comparable to CC Goku who can destroy Hit's pocket dimension. At this level of power he can create dimensional rifts and destroy space-time and pocket dimensions with his energy). Adaptation (can adapt to gravity), Reactive Evolution (Saiyans can evolve to counters against special abilities/techniques that can cause harm to them), Fusionism (via Fusion Dance or Potara Earrings). Power Nullification & Purification [Types 1 & 2] (Can nullify Dark Ki. Can negate his opponent's ability to boost their damage. Can reset his opponents statistics boost, negating his opponents ability to amplify his or her statistics), Stamina Reduction (Can reduce his opponent stamina via normal attacks or skills) & Status Effect Inducement (Can disable all of his opponents abilities, powers and actions by reducing their stamina to zero; making them unable to act). Resistance to Demon God Power (Capable of fighting against the Dark Dragon Ball Warriors and the Demon Gods, with them always utilizing Dark Ki and Demon God Power infused attacks). Disease Manipulation, Poison Manipulation, Extreme Cold, Cosmic Radiations, Absorption, Sleep Manipulation. Acids, Heat Manipulation, Harsh Temperatures, Status Effect Inducement, Spatial Manipulation, Ice Manipulation. Corrosion Inducement,Fire Manipulation, Electricity Manipulation, Matter Manipulation (Atomic; Withstood Baby Vegeta's Revenge Death Ball which can scatter individual atoms). Resistance to Power of Destruction, Empathic Manipulation. And he has all those from his Base form and his Transformations (from SSJ1 - Full Powered SSJ4 Limit Breaker) further enhance those abilities.

[@violetblack2026]

@@GODEATER2so my friend do power levels matter anymore in any Dragon Ball Series because I remember reading that anyone with PL of 10k can destroy a planet

[@violetblack2026]

@@GODEATER2and if anyone with the Power Level of 10k can destroy a planet then what do you think a Power Level of 100B can do

[@violetblack2026]

Also don’t forget the higher the Power Level of a fighter is they and their Power will Transcend any obstacle including time Stop and reality warping and ETC u get my point 🙏

[@violetblack2026]

Do u think Xeno Goku Powers will Surpass the Concept of everything like literally everything beyond Death and Creation someday 😅

[@JackKristentums]

If Xeno Goku was Summonable as a servant what do you think is his class?

[@NO-zb3fz]

Seems like a foreigner to me. Edit:nvm, bro does NOT qualify. What he does qualify for are Berserk Lancer Rider(pre saiyan saga) Cancer canidate(taking goku's interpretation of earth's safety, and assuming the cancer class isn't only for the moon.) Goku black would qualify for: Saber Lancer Beast

[@GenocideJill-]

berserk

[@alispeed5095]

Saber lol

[@NO-zb3fz]

@@alispeed5095 Nah, saber you need an actual sword for. He'd likely be summoned as a lancer 99% of the time, with a 1% super-rare berserker variant.

[@JackKristentums]

@@NO-zb3fz In my opinion I'd say he's a savior or something close to a divine spirit since at the end of GT he did get immortalized by the people of earth. (But thats just me I've haven't really touch any new fate canon since two years ago so the rules could have changed)

[@KakarotScales09]

The extreme downball of xeno goku is crazy💀💀

[@kojigoat]

Say don’t xeno goku have auto win n if do where at?

[@kojigoat]

N isn’t he resistance to Omni presence n Omni negation

[@choidaniel7026]

@@kojigoat bro the creator of this video is a db hater

[@kojigoat]

@@choidaniel7026 he got debunk

[@choidaniel7026]

@@kojigoat Xeno goku was debunked and was debunked several times without numbers and no body have ever debunked it again after that first one so I don’t know where you get your one debunked because even me have all the scans and statements

[@carlosmga5036]

You have forgotten the existence of the penguin village shown even in the Manga Cannon including Arale, she can get out of her Manga and make paper airplanes with them, she could play with her entire series manipulating it as she pleases, she could also run more Faster than time effortlessly, he was able to carefreely transcend his own narrative infinite times, he can literally interact with Akira Toriyama played by Tori Bot, a carefree Arale has possibly done feats greater than the entire composition of the Fate verse, yet at the end of Z , Goku was labeled as the strongest of all. Goku (End Z) Solos Comp Fate 🤨

[@Yokarblue]

I notice how you mentioned that timelines in db are 4d, that's completely wrong, they're about 10d with some rough scaling Edit:guys this is without using statements, if statements about the otherworld were to be accounted in my comment then a timeline would scale to infinite D and beyond

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

In the omniverse, the Dimensions of Existence for Time is 4th, 5th, and 6th. However, all of the 10 Core Dimensions weave into each other, making the Omniverse proper. Xeno Goku would 8th Dimensional. Step below Type Omnipotent Catagories, since those are 9th Dimensional. There is no 10th Dimension. The Zero Dimension is were we count from. And each dimension outside of the 2nd and the 3rd, is unique.

[@choidaniel7026]

@@absolstoryoffiction6615 so are you trying to say super dimension is just 5D

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

@@choidaniel7026 (I'm not saying Xeno Goku is 5th D E... He's actually 8th DE at the high end level if he wanted to unleash SS1. Zeno and Shenron are 9 DE given their duality of being omni potent... But Super Dimensions/Extra Dimensions etc. are just 1 up to 6 DE, depending on the context. And it's Pseudo 6 DE for the high end Extra Dimensions.) In the Omniverse, proper, it will depend. Zero Dimension is Origin... The same Dimension that the Akashic Records and Omnipotence comes from. But the Omnipotent souls now reside in the 9th Dimension. 1st to 3rd Dimension is pretty self explanatory to our real world. However, there is nuance in how all three dimensions function beyond simple explanations. 4th Dimension is the Prime Timeline while 5th Dimension are all Alternative and Parallel Time Lines. Unlike the 4th, you can erase branches of time in the 5th. If you tamper with the 4th, then you may end up dooming the true path. Thus, you may bring forth Chaos Theory upon the Butterfly Effect. It wouldn't be the first time, however, for the omniverse. 6th is best explained as if it was the seeds from Origin. With each Seed sprouting its own true Multiverse and Cosmology etc. I say "true" because you can still have multiverses within one Core Dimension. However, those are Pseudo Multiverses and much easier to dismantle compared to one Seed of Origin. 7th is Conceptual Existence. Where the Astral Plane resides and many powerful souls are often at this level. 8th is the Spirit Realm where Souls reside. The highest level of existence under Omnipotence if thyn soul is strong enough to equal it. 9th is where Omnipotence Souls reside but its original purposes was to be "Beyond the Boundary". Or in other words. Before 9th was split in two by omnipotence. It was truly boundless in every way, second to Origin. As it is the final Will of Origin, the Will to exist beyond the End... ... ... Even when it is easy said than done, iteration after iteration. To answer... Yes... Super Dimensions are just 5th Dimensional in this context. It's not the same as 6th Dimensional Existence. (... The Infinite Dimensions are not the same as the Core 10 Dimensions. Fundamentally speaking...)

[@Real-Naruto-]

Extreme low balled xeno Goku vs extreme wanked nasuverse so yeah wanked verse would win.

[@INFINIX-2503]

Nasuverse is also lowballed wtf are on

[@jonathanbenoit-mj9cv]

Normally toaster is spitting straight Fax But This Time Bro Is Not Cooking💀

[@CrashDAMFCourse]

The absolute disrespect mfs have now to lowball my boy is incomprehensible. Not to mention it all boils down to hax shit is weird.

[@NO-zb3fz]

Time to watch. Edit:GOATED VID 🤧! HAPPY FOR MY FAV VERSE GETTING HYPE! Nasuverse scaling was somewhat downplayed though, but that's reasonable.

[@ToasterXD]

🙌

[@TheKnight-nc7qn]

damn bro lowballed xeno goku as much as humanly possible😂

[@uzookafor8721]

Facts at least at bear minimum he should be high hyperversal.he does not want to believe super Goku is 5d and above.he did not touch up on dragon ball cosmology properly.timelines are not 4d.that would mean every timeline in DC is 4d ,which is a crazy downplay,that's why understanding cosmology is very important.i wonder why people keep forgetting that the living world in universe 7 has super dimensions 😪

[@TheKnight-nc7qn]

@@uzookafor8721 facts

[@GamerDude-qg9bh]

It’s pretty obvious he doesn’t know what he’s talking about because of all the bs he said.

[@CosmologyDunks]

@@uzookafor8721 bare minimum is boundless lmao

[@uzookafor8721]

@@CosmologyDunks how

[@XLEGENDS76]

This guy doesn't know relative DB scaling: Frieza 2nd form stated that je had enough power to destroy the visiable universe(not the whole universe) which can be made out high-multi galaxy in his second form so goku in his ssj form( who embarrassed frieza) should be at least low-universal in the namek saga. In the cell saga cell ssj2( he has tge same aura as gohan after regenerating) as enough power to scale him towards mid-universal but doesn't have any feats beyond data book scaling. In the majin buu saga Super Buu was going to destroy the whole universe and even vegito and databooks confirm that Super Buu's techniques was enough to destroy the whole universe(universe 7). Then when kid buu showed up and found Goku and Vegeta in the grand Supremekaioshin world the supreme kais were afraid he could destroy their world and this can take an infinite amount of energy as this kai world is multi-galaxy sized. In Dragon Ball Fusion Reborn, goku, pikkon and vegeta have infinite speed able to travel from other world to hell( further reiterated in the metal cooler movie), Goku transforming had enough energy to shake Hell,The Otherworld, and Heaven which requires an infinite amount of energy and power( goku had more energy due to being dead). GOGETA'S ssj energy and power amd lit up Hell, The Otherworld and possibly Heaven which in itself can argue the SSJ GOGETA has Infinite power. In Dragon Ball GT goku even states himself that General Rildo was more powerful than majin buu, Who threatened to destroy the universe and Supremekaioshin World. And PAN DEFEATED HIM BY HERSELF💀. And BASE GOKU IS WAY MORE POWERFUL THAN PAN. Goku than fights some other small villians who make him stronger. Then he fights SSJ3 Baby with SSJ3 and loses than Transforms into SSJ4 which is a 1 billion times multipler from base( ssj3 is a 400 times multipler and and golden ozaro is a 500 times multipler and 500x400x Baby's power boost + Crazy DB scaling means goku would need 1 billion times more power to defeat him.) Then he one-shot Super 17 in base( The Super 17 who made 4 SSJs look fodder). Nouva Shenron was also stated by goku ( at that time to be the strongest opponent he'd ever faced) goku one-shot his Fellow Dragon ( Ice shenron)( who are both relative in power) in Ssj4. Then Goku( Ultra Full Power Ssj4) humiliated Syn (The Strongest Shadow Dragon). Immediately when OMEGA Shenron appeared the whole universe( including Hell,The Otherworld and Heaven and the Supremekaioshin World)(Basically the Living World which is infinite in size)started collapsing on itself by OMEGA SHENRON JUST EXISTING. And Goku( with help obviously) one-shot Omega Shenron who was going to destroy Everything( maybe the whole timeline). Xeno Goku experienced all this( and more just didn't mention it)when got a Whole lot Stronger. And is as strong as Ssj Blue CC Goku who is stronger than MUI from the T.O.P who shook an infinite realm by just existing. And is relative to Dark Janemba who threatened to disrubt the whole cosmos in The Anime. So adding on to his feats his feats in SDBH AND XENOVERSE AND SDBH the Game he would scale way above outerversal and would be impossible to scale. But here is my Scaling( for Xeno Goku)After Watching The Anime and Reading The Manga And Databooks[( in his Strongest Form(Ssj4LB)]: Strength:Infinite(high-balling) Speed:Immeasurable Energy: Immeasurable Power:Immeasurable Scaling:Immeasurable( beyond infinity) Cosmology:Immeasurable Feats: Durability:Tanked the Revenge Death Ball, which is as strong or stronger than the hakai: Strength:Already Explained(in the video). Speed:Infinite in the metal cooler movie, So way Beyond Immeasurable for Xeno Goku Abilities:Ki Manipulation, Telepathy, Enhanced Adaptability, Enhanced Potential etc. Hax:Much Stronger than pretty much any oppenent and has allies such as CC UNIVERSAL BLUE GOKU AND SUPREME KAI OF TIME( hax means unfair advantage in battle). AP: Somewhat equal to Durability. DC: Cannot be Measured. SO XENO GOKU RELATIVELY CAN'T BE SCALED AND IF THE NASUVERSE CAN BE SCALED THEN HE CLAPS DUE TO FEATS HE PERFORMED AND STATEMENTS IN ANIME,MANGA AND DATABOOKS. @toasterxd You need to actually watch the anime, read the msnga and databooks and don't just look at scans. Edit:I didn't mention everything relative to Xeno Goku though. 2nd edit: Took me a whole hour to write this. 3rd edit:Any verse that can be scaled is getting clapped by Xeno Goku. 4th edit: Xeno Goku is soo powerful that he can't even be scaled. Just wanted to reiterate that. 5th edit: Xeno Goku also has inf stamina due to the fact that he can kill immortal beings which require an infinite amount of stamina and has more stamina than kid buu and baby combined.

[@alispeed5095]

None of this matters coz Void is involved. The root is the source code of all nasu verse. The moment Goku has to fight void. He becomes subject to nasu verse logic meaning void can simply edit or even outright remove his line of code from within the root and thats that. Scaling is irrelevant to a being that can control source code. If you dont want Goku to be subject to nasu verse laws then why involve a character that is the very definition of nasu verse logic? You could scale xeno goku to beat Gil and Saber easily. But not void. Its impossible. Either you allow goku to be subject to the root or you just null the entire fight since its too unfair. Its like being a programmer, how can an ingame character threaten you? You just edit there source code or outright erase it and thats that. This is void shiki. All your scaling is pointless. What was this guy even thinking involving her in this fight? Even the author of that verse avoids her like a plague since she makes any stakes moot.

[@XLEGENDS76]

@alispeed5095 Goku had downright defeated characters who were stated to have Immeasurable Power and Insane feats it doesn't matter whether Void has this source code or whatever. This source code/root only applies to Void's own verse and assuming the fight would take place on ground where neither character has an advantage Xeno Goku would easily win as he wouldn't be affected by the root as it only applies to the NASUVERSE.

[@XLEGENDS76]

It's like saying Murphy Lawden is the strongest in fiction because of his inverse hax and only works in his verse, which means even other SCPs can slam. Murphy lawden ain't even top 10 SCP because is hax is only inverse like Void Shiki's hax

[@XLEGENDS76]

@kenshinsenpai You noticed it too

[@XLEGENDS76]

@@kenshinsenpai 😊

[@cole_world5739]

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[@ToasterXD]

Stand proud Xeno Goku, You’re strong.

[@cole_world5739]

@@ToasterXD type shii🗣

[@TheActualCaptain]

Before I finish this video just know Gilgamesh SLAMS🗣️🗣️

[@lockzy21]

nah

[@DaBossMn]

Unfortunately💀

[@CertainlyCynical]

nope

[@ToasterXD]

fax

[@xrim1139]

hell nah

[@LeonhartEdits]

If Xeno Goatku transforms.... The anime/mangaverse would not be able to even withstand his Divine Aura.

[@itousatha5359]

The afterlife in the daichenzu 4 world guide states that the afterlife is a transcendental realm beyond the concept of time space and dimensionality.if goku is capable of destroying such a place he easily scales to low outer and this is backed up by the june 2013 vjumps stating that Goku vs Beerus was a super dimensional battle with the kanji Cho-Jigen literally translating to Beyond the concept of dimensionality.this kanji is prominently used for people like anos etc and also for Gogeta vs broly being stated to be a Super dimensional batlle in either case goku in the manga tui scakes to low outer

[@KakarotScales09]

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[@josephrogers3666]

Just untrue

[@mauricejohnson2351]

@@josephrogers3666not unture

[@oddestgames1168]

Some dude on reddit hard debunked the daizenshuu 4 afterlife statement to 5D max

[@mauricejohnson2351]

@@oddestgames1168 dude that has been rebunked …..

[@hardcoore_gyt9254]

Damn he dropped it crazy

[@ToasterXD]

nuts

[@Thailandsmostwanted]

@@ToasterXD i can finally use a video thats not freaking from the one who will not be mentioned

[@theghost358]

@@Thailandsmostwantedwho Seth, stop being dramatic you can say the guy’s name

[@lebrondavis1420]

@@theghost358fr it’s not that hard lol

[@INFINIX-2503]

There is huge lowball in the video Xeno goku HAXS:What are all of Xeno Goku hax? (to those viewing a majority of these Haxs comes from the arcade/card game) Author authority Immunity (Completely Ignores the effects of author involvement from an opponent) {As shown Against Demigra who surpassed the Authors avatar via Author authority} Plot manipulation immunity (Ignores changes to plot caused by an opponent) {As shown by DEMIGRA who attempted to change his own fate against Xeno Goku by rewriting it.} Ki Universe creation (a space created by Xeno Goku in which he has Supreme Control) God Ki Universe creation (A space created by xeno Goku in which he has ultimate control) Plot Hole Creation ((picks up paper Thinks about target Target Appears on paper then paper and target vanish)) Speed Theft ( Xeno Goku steals the Speed of the target and applies it to his own) Energy theft (Xeno Goku steals the targets energy and empowers himself) Physical strength theft (Xeno Goku steals the targets strength and adds it to himself) Power Absorbtion (Xeno Goku absorbs all Incoming At and power) power redirection (Xeno Goku Unleashed all Absorbed power as well as redirects incoming Atks multiplying there power by the previously absorbed power) Time Manipulation (Xeno Goku can Travel to any point in time and alter events before they take place or after they take place) Time Altercation (Alters the flow of time to prevent Hazardous energy spillout from a Fight by Splitting the Current fight into a New timeline entirely where the opponent cannot escape without Xeno Goku's assistance) Time intervention (prevents a timeline from continuing to change by eleminating all changes within it) Weapon Creation (Creates weapons from memory above the power of the Weapons original design) Weapon Summon (Summons weapons from The Time nest as needed) Speed Increase (Increases speed by self motivation or to surpass a foe) Strength increase (increases strength by self motivation or to surpass a foe) Power increase (Increases power by self motivation or to surpass a for) Damage Negation (completely negates the effects of dmg from incoming Atks) Speed negation (removes all the speed from an opponent) Strength negation (Removes all the strength of an opponent by Manipulating there Life energies) Power negation (Negates the effects of Opponent powers) Immunity negation (Negates opponent immunities) Multiplication of Self (Creates multiple Exact copies of self for an Undetermined amount of time all capable same The abilities as Xeno Goku) Motamora Bracelet Fusion ((can be used by anyone and can fuse an unlimited amount of times with anyone including other fusions without having to 1st defusing. The fusion is Permanent unless the fusion of it's own free will unlocks and removes the bracelet)) Scaling: Outer to high outer Plus

[@INFINIX-2503]

Nasuverse scaling This is my ultimate scaling for the Nasuverse cosmology. The previous ones I did are rather outdated now as I have gained newer knowledge on the verse and how much bigger it is than I previously thought. I guess we do learn new things every day. Also, most of the credit goes to Theoretical Toxic from CSAP, who enlightened me more on the cosmology of Nasuverse. Quite surprised how I can actually appreciate something that came from the CSAP wiki when the tiering system is even worse than VSBW. But at least they are better than VSBW when it comes to scaling characters correctly First and foremost, every planet in the Nasuverse has and follows its own concepts and common sense. Rules that apply to a specific planet don't apply to others. Not every “earth” is the same in the Nasuverse, which I will explain below Earth and Textures In Nasuverse, Earth has separate realities, with some being parallel worlds and others being higher dimensions. These are referred to as “textures of reality.” Textures play a fundamental role within the Nasuverse in separating myths from other myths. The existence of textures allows for all myths within the Nasuverse to exist without being contradictory to each other, as seen. Every myth took place within its texture of reality, such as the Scandinavian myths and events like Ragnarok. That’s why in Fate, we have multiple Sun Gods/goddesses like Karna, Quetzalcoatl, etc., all existing on the same “earth” without contradictions despite being from different mythology and lore. Quetzalcoatl(a Mesoamerican Sun Goddess) claims she already knew Karna(a Hindu Sun God) despite being from a very different myth and blatantly supposed to be contradictory. Inshort, Earth in itself isn’t just a planet. But a threshold for multiple realities hence the existence of different “textures” for various myths. Parallel Worlds: In Nasuverse, parallel Worlds are notions of human history that exist within the first texture of the world, the “Texture of Humanity,” which was insinuated to be a universe as seen when Arcueid used event storage to store the surface texture of the planet Tohno Shiki went inside that and ended up witnessing an infinite multiverses and also its concepts This first texture containing a Universe also branches out into endless possibilities which exists as parallel worlds These possibilities branch off one another. These infinite possibilities form the concept of human history. Higher Dimensions Rin explains how Higher Dimensions in the Nasuverse function, higher dimensions view every facet of lower dimensions as that of a scroll/book. Which means higher-dimensional beings are entirely superior to lower-dimensional beings. Just basic higher-dimensional existence. B.B, who obtained a higher dimensional perspective, could view all of the linear time and all of the multiverses within the moon cell as a book and can see the entire past, present and future of lower dimensions consequently

[@INFINIX-2503]

Within the world of Tsukihime, it is explained that a certain character by the name of Kiara Sessyoin gained higher dimensional senses, which was enough to make her omnipotent in lower dimensions but because her body was still lower dimensional, she was still at the mercy of the higher dimensional beings Thus, she returned to her lower-dimensional self and lost her higher-dimensional senses Cosmological Scale Mooncell The moon cell is a supercomputer created by aliens/non-human intelligent life. It consists of 7 layers, and getting past them gets you to the moon cells' “core.” The moon cell was made to observe and record everything on Earth and about Earth since its very existence S. E. R. A. P. H, on the other hand, is an artificial world created within the Mooncell It records Earth which has infinite possibilities as well. It holds endless possibilities and if-futures and infinite possible futures. Now moving back to the Mooncell. The Mooncell is an 8-dimensional barrier It blocks the way to the Mooncells core, making it Complex Multiversal(1-C) The Mooncell’s “core” is implicitly said to be an even higher dimension making it likely 9th dimensional, but nevertheless, the moon cell in this state qualifies for 1-C. The moon has something called the “far side of the moon cell.” Basically, the imaginary number of space contains all possibilities as all possibilities can be hypothesized because since it’s unobservable, it can’t be detected by the current existing laws of physics, the reality of real numbers, and imaginary numbers which are mutually exclusive untouchable and cannot observe each other. The imaginary numbers of space is a higher dimensional space made up of complex/imaginary numbers and is the source of poor information and is sometimes referred to as "the garden fall from the sky" within the far side, and reality itself is made up of real numbers; This makes the Imaginary number of space High Hyperversal(1-B). Earth and deeper textures Higher dimensions of the Nasuverse become pretty hard to gauge as a result of them not being definitively numbered on various occasions, but it shouldn't restrict you from using syllogism to present some order in scale for them starting with; The reverse side of the world This realm is where the gods and Phantasmal beings retreated after the end of the Age of Gods. It’s a realm incompatible with the laws and rules of humanity This realm is obviously higher-dimensional as it contains true forms of gods who are said to exist in higher dimensions. The scale of this realm theoretically equals or even surpasses that of the moon cell making it at least High 1-C (10 dimensional at the lowest) and likely High Hyperversal considering the “Imaginary number space” earlier. Now you might ask me to prove it’s as high/higher than the moon cell and INS. That’s easy. Things such as gods or divine spirits exist on the reverse side of the world, and they are too powerful for servant containers and can only be summoned if they are weakened, which even then still places them as one of the top strongest among servants. Meaning a god's existence as a higher dimensional being is qualitatively superior to a servant container to handle. Which makes the God superior to even servants like Altera, who can destroy the moon cell This makes the vast majority of the gods High Hyperversal Avalon Avalon exists within the planet earth as well(which supports my explanations on textures being inside of “earth” despite it being supposed to be contradicting in nature. Normally, Avalon isn't supposed to fit inside normal earth. But Nasuverse’s earth isn’t “normal.”

[@INFINIX-2503]

Avalon is higher dimensional as well. Its Noble Phantasm form was described as having the capability of blocking virtually anything up to the 6th dimension Lostbelts Lostbelts are parallel universes that were pruned by the quantum time lock. I will explain the Quantum time lock later. If you wanna know about it, they are created by, and their existence is maintained by, the “Tree of Emptiness,” which birthed them by allowing pruned histories to have their own fate where they actually survived through means of creating that history They should be Universal+. Servant Universe It's where hypothetical scenarios (likely in reference to possibilities similar to earth's parallel world system) are put out. Furthermore, the Servant universe has its own set of parallel worlds as people who reincarnate go to its parallel world. This should at least make it Low Multiversal, possibly Multiversal or Multiversal+ if the parallel worlds are taken to be as big as proper human history parallel worlds. But for now, it's at least Low Multiversal Spaceships of the Servantverse can manipulate 4-D So for now still 2-C, possibly Low 1-C, To further attest to higher dimensions in the servant-universe, Ashtart Origin can manifest her higher-dimensional soul.. within the servant-universe without any problems who happen to be comparable to true form gods who are 10 Dimensional at the lowest ball in their true forms and an existential threat to all servants kind including top tier servants who scale to the 9th-dimensional moon cell, so by chain scaling it should be high 1-C /10 Dimensional and possibly High 1-B Earth and Quantum Mechanics Earth in Nasuverse is explained to have been running under the basis of the Type 3 multiverse or Quantum multiverse Admittedly this doesn't suddenly make it infinite-dimensional as the Quantum Multiverse has many interpretations, with some of the interpretations just being 4th dimensional and others being infinite-dimensional. But Earth isn't just 4th dimensional. I've already presented several dimensions earlier, so it can't be the 4th-dimensional interpretation. The only logical explanation is that it should likely be infinite-dimensional, meaning it’s High Hyperversal Origin, Platonism and Concepts(Get ready for the philosophical lecture about Nasuverse’s entirety) Origins are concepts that come directly from the Root. It serves as a primordial foundation for everything and everyone. It's like a perfect form of something independent and of that something it foundates. It’s also how a thing should act or behave. That's why those who awaken their origins find it hard to stray away from their origin. It's an idea similar to Plato's theory of forms. Not really sure(I don’t like Philosophy). Now one would be tempted to argue origin is just something exclusive to humanity, but this isn't the case as even non-sentient things such as plants even have their own origin likely, everything conceptual and physical is subjected to this notion of origin. Furthermore, in Nasuverse, the origin of something is the defining truth of something its implied to trace on to infinity, implying there are infinite layers of existence, each origin getting deeper and reaching deeper and deeper At the end of it, all is the primordial state of something that exists as a perfect form of that thing it foundates all physical and conceptual aspects of something and exists as something that drives everything in reality, and it's the direction and placing it into things part of the pattern of reality that matches its physical or conceptual existence. Showcased in multiple instances (older and more fundamental mystery is more powerful and resists lower mystery, higher dimensions are qualitatively superior to lower ones, greater authority resists lower authority, even planets having layers/textures of reality, some layers even being higher dimensions, higher levels of the concept of death existing as well). You can also say there are infinite deeper ideas all the way up to their primordial and deepest state. This also heavily supports the existence of infinite dimensions going deeper and deeper, transcending each other as everything within reality due to the existence of origin that is layered like a stream tracing on to infinity up to its primordial state. So there are those infinite levels of concepts, and the end point of those concepts is their true primordial origin existing as an independent concept perfect form of itself that foundates the existence of the lesser concept. With concepts at their primordial stage being absolute, unchangeable;and also being platonic in nature Due to the sheer consistency, I believe this is definitely High-Hyperversal and Outerversal for every concept in its primordial stage. The Universe There's not much to say here. There's "The Universe," which encompasses everything here; parallel worlds, higher dimensions, earth, other celestial bodies and galaxies or whatnot. But the Universe in itself, with all the information above, should be definitively High 1-B. Very few people within the Nasuverse scale to the "Universe" but Fate Grand Order high tiers such as Zeus have been somewhat shown or stated to be capable of doing such. Nasuverse Cosmological Scale #2- The “ever-higher” tiers Throne of Heroes The Throne of Heroes is described as a higher plane of existence, it exists outside of the time-axis and outside of time. Entirely outside of the world. It’s also said to exist beyond the boundaries of space-time and it’s entirely dimensionless. This implies its qualitative superiority over the concepts of space and time, making the Throne of Heroes Outerversal level. By the way, this makes every Heroic Spirit in their “True form” scale to Outerversal because that is where they exist. But servants do NOT scale to this. Outer Gods The realm of the Outer Gods exists beyond the laws and common sense of the universe And the universe itself is inaccessible to anything within the Universe in the “Outer Universe.” The outer gods themselves are described as being beyond the laws and common sense of the universe and are regarded as incomprehensible, higher beings from the outer universe outside of the conventional universe which in itself, as I said above, has several ways of being 1-B Outer gods like Sut-Typhon are said to exist beyond all possible higher dimensions existing outside of the universe So it’s vividly clear that Outer Gods are Outerversal+ since they exist beyond the ultimate gate which already exists beyond the universe. The Akashic Records: The Akashic records are synonymous with the name “spiral of origin.” It is somewhat a realm that was「　」, but because it had a name and comprehensibility, it became separate from「　」and every description given only becomes one with Spiral of Origin and not「　」because it holds true for the Spiral of Origin but not for the incomprehensible「　」. I would explain this better after explaining the Akashic records. The Akashic Records record everything in existence and can create logically everything and governs the dimensional theory of the Nasuverse It’s whole being unrestrained from all possible dimensional theories. The Akashic record itself is unrestrained from everything within reality while governing them, meaning it's either several layers in Outerversal or High Outerversal. But I would stick with just several layers into 1-A. Now it’s time for the daddy of the verse. 「　 」 This is the highest plane of existence within the Nasuverse. It is the absolute one “true infinity” from which you can NEVER reach through by just recursively stacking infinities

[@INFINIX-2503]

Most of the things I knew firsthand before but always incorrectly scaled because of my limited knowledge about the Nasuverse’s cosmology. But now, I think I understand the verse's complexity a little better. It's just too complex for anyone to understand in a short while.And that explains the entirety of the Nasuverse cosmology. The verse reaches Tier 0. This is the latest cosmology scaling that will probably get updated in vsbw(for you vsbw fanatics🗿). All thanks to the CSAP dude.unrestrained from boundaries

[@INFINIX-2503]

The Akashic record itself is unrestrained from everything within reality while governing them, meaning it's either several layers in Outerversal or High Outerversal. But I would stick with just several layers into 1-A.Now it’s time for the daddy of the verse. 「　 」 This is the highest plane of existence within the Nasuverse. It is the absolute one “true infinity” from which you can NEVER reach through by just recursively stacking infinitiesIt’s whole being unrestrained from all possible dimensional theories.These are properties akin to that of the set theories reflection principle, with everything within the Nasuverse representing subsets of it and properties of the root being "reflected" down to smaller sets. In short, to dumb it down, it's like an “inaccessible cardinal” and “absolute infinity” at the same time, both of which are High Outerversal, and everything else in reality, which is several layers into Outerversal, is only a figment of it, in its truest sense which this alone should be enough for it to qualify for High 1-A in vsbw as far as I heard. Furthermore, it's a realm that is restricted from binary oppositionswhich captures dualities in itself on a conceptual level in which Taiji is Transduality type-2. And the root being qualitatively superior to everything and anything within the verse grants it Transduality type 3. Further proof of this is Ryougi Shiki, who is implied to be an existence akin to Wuji(“separate the two polarities” in reference to Taiji in which the separation derives from Wuji”).The oneness before all conceptions, including Taiji being a oneness that denies the concept of limit and one without limit. Consistent with these statements as well, but even such a statement is not enough to capture its truest sense which adds to it being High Outerversal. As this realm is a realm outside of conceptualization representing true abstraction, nothingness, fathomless, indescribable, and beyond the realms of even language.And it’s not because of the finite mental capabilities of Nasuverse characters but due to its endless transcendences as the one absolute that can't be surpassed that is a territory of freedomunrestrained from boundariesAnd that explains the entirety of the Nasuverse cosmology. The verse reaches Tier 0. This is the latest cosmology scaling that will probably get updated in vsbw(for you vsbw fanatics🗿). All thanks to the CSAP dude.Most of the things I knew firsthand before but always incorrectly scaled because of my limited knowledge about the Nasuverse’s cosmology. But now, I think I understand the verse's complexity a little better. It's just too complex for anyone to understand in a short while.

[@aryabhandari3335]

Finally find someone who doesn't say Goku is BOUNDLESS

[@rajaiskandar2247]

Halfway through the video, I had completely forgotten this was a power scaling video and thought it was documentary video 😅

[@nlmbboogz7382]

😂💯

[@morsayxd]

Yeah basically shiki and the moon cell carries , thx for the vid

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

Voic Shiki is omnipotent and the Moon Cell is literally the Matrix. While Zeno and Shenron are omnipotent and Xeno Goku can rival both if he barely went SS1. Given that in his base form, he defeated enemies who can erase the entire Full Cosmology of the DBZ Verse beyond just Universe 7 etc. It's really not a 50/50 because of Ki/God KI. Zeno Goku can obtain a higher Type of Omniptence that overthrows Void Shiki. Not all Omni Potent Factors and Type Omnipotence are the same.

[@dsm2417]

Xeno completely stomps them all

[@aroundtheworld3972]

keep crying + every goku pfp i see in those comments is goku meatrider.

[@dsm2417]

@@aroundtheworld3972 lmao just bc i have pfp doenst mean shit. Xeno goku massively stomps

[@Berlinh2]

@@aroundtheworld3972Mald

[@CosmologyDunks]

@@dsm2417 FR, xeno goku legit has all the hax they have, and toaster didnt even go over them, he also forgets to mention he can seal up all of these hax and has durability negation + strength stealing xeno goku legit negs

[@rednaxela5960]

​@@dsm2417no he does not😂 the meatriding is crazy

[@s4g3sncere]

I been waiting for this video for quite awhile. And quite frankly you didn’t disappoint 🙏🏽 Loved it from start to finish.

[@Yuh_zhimmy]

''nah i'd win'' - Jogoat

[@kiros3190]

Why didn’t you include the charisma world and others?

[@TheCarrionKing27]

Bro, why is Saber here, youre talking about all versions right? CCC Gilgamesh literally outscales every servant except Void Shiki. Dude was so overpowerd both BB and Buddah decided to leave him alone and not bother him as he chilled in the dark side of the mooncell

[@CODMSnipperz64]

Doesn’t goku have boundary manipulation? Conceptual manipulation?

[@notwholesome4838]

He does, actually. Can Hurt and Kill Janemba, who is literally Evil Ideas given form. And Evil is a Multiversal scale Concept. Scales to people who can Harm Tokitoki, the Embodiment of Time who also sustains the Existence of all dimensions in DBH He can literally Plot hax Majority of Nasuverse to death With Arale. He can also wish for the same immortality as Zamasu Via Super Shenron. Meaning even attacks on a conceptual Level won't kill him permanently.

[@okaradragonicsaiyan]

Prediction: Xeno Goku solos Edit: I disagree but still enjoyed the vid. 👍

[@mr.aboveall4833]

Beating saber, but sadly anyone that’s Gilgamesh and stronger are going to beat xeno goku. The world we live in

[@charlesilenotuma]

Xeno Goku solo

[@abdeljalalrachdimali350]

​@@mr.aboveall4833nah base form goku can one shots the fate verse

[@MyLife-og2kr]

They say the DB fans are bad, but we got haters like this Toaster guy making whole KZbin channels hating on one series. LMAO

[@leboi1155]

Motherfucker he made goku win against saitama and the big 3, if he hated goku that much he wouldn't let goku win a single time

[@stayblueර]

He literally highballed goku so much during this video,none of this shit gets past 6D.

[@kaavyashrestha9569]

​@@stayblueර?

[@kaavyashrestha9569]

Please give proof before saying something random.

[@BushidoRoad]

I think there are quite a few Servants who could take on Goku. One consistent problem he has is that Goku tends to not go all out right from the start and often letting his guard down. That’s something a lot of veteran warriors like Saber could take advantage of as they would want to end the fight as quickly as possible. Goku’s also been shown to be susceptible to non physical attacks with little means to counteract them, which means Hassan of Serenity’s poison or Rider’s Mystic Eyes of Petrification could prove very effective against him.

[@Sam_Sam2]

Wally west victims on god 🙏. W video btw.

[@definitelyjamere]

Don’t bring the flash into this, hes busted beyond belief 🗣️

[@5ko631]

Cook🔥

[@lucionjones8685]

Yea both verse getting cook by wally neg diff

[@FrederikvanThurgau]

For everyone still thinking that Goku would win: Akasha is so above everything that Nasu, the author of Fate, said that trying to describe it in any way would lowball it. Shiki is just the personification of a part of the Root. The Root itself is infinitley more powerful than anything mentioned in the entire video

[@marrylinejames2927]

Xeno one taps in base y'all forgot xeno goku as a limiter that stops him from going past ssj4lb if he was to fight these randoms the limiter wouldn't be there anymore

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

True... Xeno Goku is just Base Form Goku. Imagine him with his Manga Counterpart abilities. It could rival Zeno & Shenron, who both are two halves of Omnipotence.

[@jamesandthgff123]

not true

[@MatoKuroi1111]

VOID Shiki is Tier 0

[@spriggylotus4476]

I hate when a city level character mentions "dimension" and now he's suddenly 9D-versal and can apparently no diff someone who destroyed the universe on screen.

[@alibeknorbekov5963]

The only Difference that makes Goku Better Goku obtained That Power through Hard work and Training Not by Someone else's, or he was gifted with power Only Determination to get stronger and protect his Friends and Family

[@ash2crimson968]

Cringe😂.

[@alibeknorbekov5963]

@@ash2crimson968 ok?

[@ash2crimson968]

@@alibeknorbekov5963 Goku is a shitty person who only cares about fighting. He literally puts everyone's life at risk including his family for the sake of a good fight. And, the determination to get stronger and hard work is almost every shonen protagonist in history, Goku is not special in these traits.

[@bern8940]

@@alibeknorbekov5963No it doesn’t. Because Saber had her struggles when ruling Camelot and Shiki trained to improve her swordsmanship. Saber, Shiki and Gilgamesh are better characters than Goku. Goku is a solid character btw, but he just has average writing tbh.

[@alibeknorbekov5963]

@@bern8940 yea Goku isn't a deep complex character

[@myfathersjawline]

how to create a powerful verse: 1. create a large and popular series. 2. let all fanfic be cannon, no copyright restrains.

[@zainyo9223]

I'm just happy toaster is getting better at powerscaling

[@tobi6168]

that video is not good at powerscale xD

[@GODEATER2]

@@tobi6168 it was a massive lowball for xeno goku and small lowball for nasuverse this vid was horrible

[@tobi6168]

@@GODEATER2 yea i know. sad

[@Jayse-xu6rt]

Thank you finally someone who knows the real power of xeno goku hes not outerversal or boundless kids

[@soniceditzz]

W edit but this is the lowest of lowballs ive seen from xeno goku heck even gt goku im base can be scaled to outef

[@ToasterXD]

no.

[@devaxionrl8189]

@@ToasterXDyes

[@lucionjones8685]

​@@devaxionrl8189scale them to outer without it bwen debunkable then

[@devaxionrl8189]

@@lucionjones8685 you can debunk things only using faulty lines of logical interpretation which have no consistency within the realm. Xeno goku scales to outerversal.

[@lucionjones8685]

@@devaxionrl8189 dude scale him and make sure its pretry soild cuz idk why you tryna talk about smt Cuz i never seen a soild scaling about him been outerversal I used to beleive he is high outer but thats not his consistence scaling snice its debunkable So scale him up there and make it hard to debunk if you cant then you cant

[@fw_Rhetorical]

9:38 The core’s medium is photon-based, which means its higher dimensions are just light, not actual space . 10:03 The regalia bestows limitless power onto the user, which is just high universal . And even if you want to scale the regalia above the likes of the moon cell, I’ve already established the higher dimensions of moon cell being photon-based, which means the regalia caps at high 3D . 10:27 The root being stated to be the source of everything isn’t enough proof for transcending all concepts . The universe is referred to as the source of everything and where all matter and phenomena flow too, so is the root just the universe? 10:56 Shiki being the symbol of yin and yang in given form doesn’t entail any spatial transcendence or dimensions of any kind . Since yin and yang itself deals with light and darkness . It isn’t concerned with science or space, but rather it’s concerned with philosophy . 11:35 High universal . That’s pretty self-explanatory, as it talks about the opposite meaning of infinity, and how the prison she was contained in was made to be infinite . 12:26 That’s only 4d, because it the scan says time and space. 12:36 No concept of time without any further contextual evidence = timeless. Nothing more, nothing less. 12:54 I’ve already established the fact that the moon cell is photon-based, which means that it is still bound by the concept of distance and time. As light travels within space and is still measured by timely intervals. 13:17 Dimensionality > Hax. And the nasuverse caps at 4D with the context given in this video.

[@gregkareem9824]

Ur everywhere

[@fw_Rhetorical]

@@gregkareem9824 Ur also everywhere

[@ToasterXD]

no, you can honestly join the cord and we can run it.

[@fw_Rhetorical]

@@ToasterXD don’t have cord

[@nykaimcneil6082]

⁠@@fw_Rhetoricalto be honest this comment lose all common sense when you say the nasuverse cap at 4d when the mooncell is literally stated to be 8d with a even higher dimensional core while void shiki/the root being far above even that 😑

[@omlandah]

Isn't one time line is about 7D in terms of movies, just a doubt since the mortal realm itself contain a hyperspace dimension and a super dimension, which makes the mortal realm itself 5D , the after life 6D, and the entire timeline will be low balled 7D since im not using the universal spehere that contains the infinite macrocosm, or zeno's palace which sees the multiverse like a game board. So it is borderline 7D even in canon. Also there are not one set of infinite timelines, there is also parallel quests, tokipedia which can be reset by fuu , normal infinite timelines and the beats world infinite timelines, the three of timelines are quite different from normal timelines since it is created from toki toki's egg. So basically those are higher dimensional timelines. Then beats world and charisma world, fictional Japan, these are higher dimensional plain of existences. These are my doubts. So scaling the timeline as 4D is a heavy low ball. Edit: instant transmission realm is also there in the timeline which has no concept of time, since instant transmission is not teleportation from point A to B.

[@bruhdrugon6094]

That would make him able to beat unleashed saber, but he would still get assblasted by gil and shiki if he was 7D.

[@Recon-601]

None of the dragon ball movies are canon except for Battle of the Gods Resurrection of F Dragon Ball Super:Broly Dragon Ball Super: Superhero

[@omlandah]

@@Recon-601 I'm talking about xeno Goku scaling, and super dimension was introduced in dbs broly and hyper space dimension is mentioned in og db.

[@omlandah]

@@bruhdrugon6094 7D only one time line, calculate other higher dimensions and sets of timelines i mentioned

[@malikmcfarlane6060]

​@@Recon-601There is literally no canon in Dragon Ball verse since all the movies and games take place in alternate timelines, how can we say the main timeline of db known as Dragon Ball super is canon and the rest aren't just because they haven't crossed over into super timeline.

[@josephdent6825]

Xeno Goku vs Dante would be a good and interesting match up

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

Sadly... Zeno Goku is 8th D Existence while Dante/Vergil are 7th D Existence. Zeno Goku wins but here's the funny thing... Souls, with the power to match, are innately 8th D Existence. A layer under Omnipotence, which is 9th DE. And given Demon Energy (Conceptual Manifestation) in DMC Lore being straight Hax/similar to Ki in their Verse. While both Brothers also have their human Souls. They could ascend into the 8th DE by the end of DMC5 if the desired it. In short, if Xeno Goku does not act fast, then Dante/Vergil will cath up to his power. And both brothers have ways to negate Xeno Goku's hax just be their demonic blood alone. So in the end. If the time to kill fails Zeno Goku, then both will duke it out in a 50/50 match up. Compared to Kratos, who is only 5th D E up to a potential 6th DE. The Blade of Olypmus solidified his limits. If Kratos took that same level of damage again, then unlike Dante/Vergil. Kratos will be down for the count.

[@ezzitina]

you didn't count the charisma world and the beats world, which both transcend dimensions. Demigra could destroy the beats world, that would make him at the bare minimum outerversal. you are obviously a fanboy and its crazy quit lowballing xeno goku even dbs goku can be scaled to outer which divine did. thought you were a good scaler too unsubbed which probably doesnt matter but either way sorry brody.

[@ToasterXD]

sorry I didn’t wank Goku like other KZbinrs! :D

[@bruhdrugon6094]

Oh nah blud said even dbs goku can be outer, not this bullshit again.

[@devaxionrl8189]

@@ToasterXDby wanking you’re literally omitting feats and statements and scans within the verse. You’re essentially committing an error from omission. It’s a logical fallacy.

[@opadrip]

I can't believe Seth the Programmer scales to 9th dimensional. 4:44

[@kaavyashrestha9569]

🙌🤲🙌🤲🙌✍️✍️👏👏

[@loriwilliams7605]

It always Goku versus some randoms they love getting clout off of Goku‘s name

[@ToasterXD]

what LMAO

[@loriwilliams7605]

⁠@@ToasterXD nobody knows these niggas when is the last time you heard somebody “ yeah I wanna go watch fate that’s a great show”

[@gamercentral2417]

@@ToasterXDbasically he’s saying your using goku for clout and views (he doesn’t understand KZbinrs need views nor does he watch ur channel)

[@hardcoore_gyt9254]

Goku is just the goat he’s the only character who could be the most popular character in a verse he’s not even in 🤷🏾🤣

[@hardcoore_gyt9254]

@@gamercentral2417 nah it’s a joke from Anitok 2021 it’s basically when people would compare the most unkwon characters it’s how a lot of people discovered Anos and Rimuru.

[@kenny5355]

8:10 the 4th dimension is just time homie

[@chakrafuji458]

I agree Nasuverse wins but you could’ve scaled Xeno goku higher honestly

[@ImTheOne_WhoAsked]

Way higher Even that much that xg blinks away the verse

[@ImaPullThru]

Hell no Arcade game xeno goku slams

[@eibarmanpessi1142]

​@@Dmklegeek4d fodder

[@eibarmanpessi1142]

​@@ImaPullThru4d fodder

[@eibarmanpessi1142]

​@@ImTheOne_WhoAskedno he cant

[@hassanhassan-os5oq]

I have never been this excited for a video for the entirety of my life

[@CtwoShaun]

Bro he's right the list is ducking too long.What the heck.Bro what is this scaling it's insane.Holy damn heck it's just brain fried me just by the list I didn't even listen to most of the stuff😂.Power scaling this days

[@X-ray39]

Archie sonic vs medaka

[@mohamedexedell7973]

archie sonic presence neggs the verse

[@Zen-Ki]

You should scale the xenoverse 2 cac in their entirety

[@lockzy21]

goku slams

[@Godster5177]

Base goku>>> the verse

[@Fvkzxro]

🧢

[@Godster5177]

@@Fvkzxro not 🧢

[@Fvkzxro]

@@Godster5177 🧢

[@KingRycon]

@@Fvkzxro Nope.

[@newseeing1]

Fax

[@SakuraNoHanaTopaz]

Love you're channel ❤

[@ToasterXD]

Appreciate it!

[@draculemihawk6120]

Xeno goku in his full power threatens reality himself, so he passively has the power of 9D. I'd say that and the fact that said 9D being is literal fodder to him means he very likely scales even higher than 9D. At full power he probably reaches 10D.

[@yaboiplank6764]

Gilgamesh and Saber ain’t even top 60 in Nashuverse and putting Void Shiki against someone like Xeno Goku or any DB character is disrespectful to Void Shiki Could’ve used Musashi, Zeus or something like that Of course Gilgamesh is also appropriate but anything close to Void shiki is just disrespecting now Grand Hassan neggs the verse

[@Kingdoms734]

How xeno Goku can scale to a boneless to infinite boneless power Shone here m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4fTpYF5rphjn5o&pp=ygUJeGVubyBnb2t1

[@malikmcfarlane6060]

Dude chill cuz this video actually lowballed xeno goku when not including super dimensions, cot, charisma world and real japan world which are all transcended dimensions above 9D, nor did he even include that xeno goku has some of the same hax and resistance that saber and gilgamesh have in this video.

[@Kingdoms734]

@@malikmcfarlane6060 bro speaking facts

[@alispeed5095]

Dude doesnt understand that void is the strongest entity in the nasu verse. If we allow nasu verse logic to apply to goku. Its GG since the root is the highest existence in the verse and void can manipulate it.

[@alispeed5095]

@@Dmklegeek Right. So you think its possible to be higher diemensional than the very concept of nasu verse world rules personified? Your statement comes from a lack of understanding of what void is. This video didnt help either since the dude also doesnt understand void lol

[@bluespeed7406]

Even then both goku, saber, gilgamesh and void shiki can be scaled higer with xeno goku you can scale him to outer same with true heroic spirit gilgamesh and unsealed saber Avalon can also be scaled to outerversal And void shiki can be scaled to boundless

[@vishwatejligade1526]

This video must be hard to digest for db fans😂

[@zacharaymosley1315]

Low balling Xeno Goku is crazy ngl.

[@mustardwithglasses6508]

He is clearly boundless and solos fiction

[@VagNats-uo5zw]

Xeno goku is overrated as hell he is 6d at best and the game version is hyperversal even rimuru ln solos

[@Kiki-w4p3u]

superman vs xenoverse goku is a debate I Saw and I laughed cause yes supes is strong BUT NOT INFINITE! he has trouble with darkside so he has his limits and godzilla could beat him in the non-canon side-comic thus xenoverse goku would fuckin speed-blitz supes than kill him in the blink of an eye

[@bruhdrugon6094]

The people who say Xeno goku is boundless are trippin', Toaster did scale them wrongly, but a lad in the comments did actually count in the rest of the feats, and he is indeed quite strong, beating saber easily, and probably gil. But don't start bouncin' on gokus d*** and saying he solos every verse.

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

Void Shiki is omnipotent in the Nasuverse... So... Not many characters can actually be a 9th Dimensional Existence. Zeno Goku is 8th Dimensional with the potential of being 9th Dimensional, when unrestricted. However, Zeno Goku is just Base Form Goku. And knowing how broken Ki/God Ki is... The potential is there but as far as the facts go? Zeno Goku caps at 8th Dimensional Existence. (Note:... The infinite dimensions explained in this video is but one Type...)

[@MahmudulHasanShan-l1w]

Watch this video and see if your opinion of Xeno Goku changes kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWW9YYWqjMyKZrs

[@Xeno1_3]

jump force goku solos🗣🔥

[@Darkinferno.-.]

The Goat’s back 🗣️

[@LOCKED-ON]

Let’s all be honest tho, Fortnite Goku would wash both verses with negative difficulty.

[@ToasterXD]

Shiki casually outscales fortnite 😭

[@isaiahjohnson6809]

Composite goku slams 💀@@ToasterXD

[@GeneralS1mba]

​@@ToasterXDI'm sorry but my cat slams every anime character

[@ToasterXD]

Fax

[@LOCKED-ON]

@@ToasterXD Fair point, but I believe Fortnite Goku is invincible and intangible and can respawn back to lobby and ready which makes him virtually unkillable Summary: Fortnite Goku is irrelevant layers into boundless and solos Lovecraft verse

[@rubycarnodemonicdragonprin3450]

Can I just add something tamamo is in a simulation so she can’t really access her other tails so yea she’s stuck at base in the simulation but the manga she has used nine and was stronger than her goddess past self amaterasu so have fun figuring out how the fuck she did that but i honestly have no fucking idea XD and I’ve seen so many people bring up tamamo having 9 tails being able to smoke both xeno goku and xeno vegeta and I’m now horrified of her

[@mrblue3879]

Yooo it's time for some OG matchups toaster the streets need Yugi vs ash vs tai(close?) Exodia vs Arceus vs strongest digimon(close?) Sasuke vs Hiei And just for fun let's see if Goku can solo Pokemon Digimon or Yu-Gi-Oh 💀

[@INFINIX-2503]

あなたは真実を話していますが、ほとんどの人はそれを理解できません

[@lilianpalacios3255]

Xeno Goku beats Saber ad Gilgamesh, But void shiki is too much bro

[@lilianpalacios3255]

and*

[@permquestor218]

Xeno Goku beats Saber but he loses To gilgamesh

[@malikmcfarlane6060]

​@@permquestor218Bro he lowballed xeno goku since he didn't even include super dimensions, cot, charisma world and real japan world which are all transcendent dimensions above 9d.

[@eibarmanpessi1142]

​@@Dmklegeekno he didn't

[@eibarmanpessi1142]

​@@malikmcfarlane6060fake scan

[@playzbruh667]

Honestly, i just wanted an accurate fate scaling cause the verse is just so weird

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

Depends on the Fate Continuity... It's very complicated.

[@playzbruh667]

@@absolstoryoffiction6615 when I watched fate extra, I was beyond confused, I definitely knew I was missing context. Fate is very weird

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

@@playzbruh667 The original Fate... Zero, Unlimited Blade Works, and Heaven's Feal???... Are from the Fate VN game. It's easier to follow. The others are from the Manga side. Then there's Grand Order, the mobile game. The biggest of the Fate verse for lore, such as the Lostbelt Series etc. As for the Nasuverse?... Tsukihime/Type Moon (I think) is what kicks starts the Fate series.

[@bern8940]

@@playzbruh667That because Fate/Extra anime is generally considered a bad adaptation of the game. Extraverse is a game that follows its own sequel

[@Xqyk]

lmfao wanking nasuverse and downplaying xeno goku is wild

[@Moomoomoomini]

Both verses were downplayed, nasuverse actually got downplayed more than xeno

[@Xqyk]

@@Moomoomoomini yea I understand but let's be honest who wins

[@Zephyr270]

@@Xqykyeah, it’s the nasuverse. They would stomp xeno Goku 😊

[@Xqyk]

@@Zephyr270 not really

[@Xqyk]

@@Zephyr270 watch debunking toasterxd by drip

[@raviranjan9530]

Finally toaster unloaded this video😂

[@Dork..]

Most of these feats were coming from base form so if he were to use super saiyan 4 which is a big multiplier would it change anything?

[@ToasterXD]

it would make it a lot stronger of course, it can’t be quantified in dimensionality because he isn’t shown to be able to do something above that.

[@Dork..]

@@ToasterXD that makes sense

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

@@ToasterXD Not really... Even Manga Goku during the battle of the Gods, rose to a power of his own Ki that shaked the cosmology of his Universe by the end of the Ark. Knowing Manga Goku. Because Xeno Goku is only always in his Base Form. And given Zeno & Shenron who are two halves of Omnipotence. Xeno Goku can very easily ascend to become a Type [x] of Omnipotent Entity. As Azura did against the final boss, The Creator. But if he also did not turn down the offer. Omnipotence has many Types and Factors. Just because two entities are omnipotent, in truth. Their omni potency is not all equal. Void Shiki is the only real threat to Xeno Goku because of how Ki works in relation to Xeno Goku, who is still the same Goku as we see in the Manga/Anime, mind set wise. And given Manga Goku. Should Zeno Goku easily obtain those ascensions. Then he can rival both Zeno and Shenron. Since he is an 8th Dimensional Existence. A layer below the 9th Dimension where Omnipotence resides and what the truth of omnipotence is. (The infinite dimensions is a good measure but it is not accurate at the level of Meta Narratives upon the Omniverse proper.)

[@Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy]

Each dimension is infinitely above the lower so just multiplying your power isnt gonna make you a higher dimension.

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

@@Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy Given the DBZ Battle of the Gods. Having a certain level of Ki, God Ki, Blue SS, or Master UI / True UI etc. or even before those transformations... Is enough to transcend dimensionality. As seen when Gotanks??? (If remember his name) warped all of reality in the infinite space of the cosmology bubble he was in, from his mere existence alone during his SS transformation. Then Xeno Goku, with no SS forms, killed a character who could wipe out the entire cosmology of DBZ at the level of Zeno. And killed the Personification of all Evil who transcends dimensionality. The feats Manga/Anime Goku has done, is a measure to Xeno Goku. Both variant characters show the potential of each other.

[@TheRogueGuy]

The real journey was saber all along fr

[@DaBossMn]

Spittin fr 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[@ToasterXD]

the real Goku was the dragon ball along the way!

[@luisfernan-s7731]

Ima re-watch it with 2x speed 💀

[@WanderingMyth]

The part where you said that mira can destroy all timelines doesn't fit with what towa said. Yes, towa can hop through timelines. But in the context you gave, she is basically pondering how big the explosion might be. Even if she ran, she might end up in a timeline that just so happens to be the one that gets nuked.

[@ToasterXD]

Why would Mira not be >Demigra? She’s clearly referring to there not being a single timeline safe from the explosion.

[@WanderingMyth]

I never said anything about the scaling of a character. I am talking about the context you gave with towa dialouge, and what you said doesn't align.

[@WanderingMyth]

The next sentence isn't a confirmation that all timelines are at stake. She doesn't know the range of the explosion that would be let off.

[@ToasterXD]

I know, but to say Mira wasn’t going to destroy EVERY universe, you’d have to concede on Mira

[@WanderingMyth]

@ToasterXD He probably could. My issue is the scan you gave for your claim doesn't make sense.

[@theguyfromDMC]

Anime/ Manga Xeno Goku can't beat the Fate/Nasuverse but his game version can.

[@Logical_Jay]

xeno goku negs

[@SlowkeyyGD]

Why is everyone saying Toaster lowballed Xeno Goku? Did I miss something?

[@Moomoomoomini]

no dbz fans just dont like admitting fate wipes

[@soniceditzz]

he is insanely lowballed didnt take some of the realma like charisma in who sees beast world as fiction keysword which negates every abillity even from a higher dimension etc@@Moomoomoomini

[@chidorim4st3r5]

Facts! Great video and great scale! There was definitely a few scans I have not seen before so that was nice. One thing that’s over powered as hell is when Gilgamesh gets a hax in CCC when he fights BB that’s the same as her ten crowns skill. Which, in itself is an authority class skill and is described as an authority class transcendental skill. It basically makes any, and every event, result, attack etc… as if it didn’t happen. Which authorities are stated in multiple events and story events within grand order to be conceptual.

[@Qoodeedingle]

The low ball to complex multi is prob the one of the worst scales not to mention that he also threaten to destroy the real world which is kinda crazy in my opinion. Xeno goku no debate is base line boundless - author lvl with guide books game and anime. Natsu verse is prob a victim to the likes of even xeno trunks but I’m not sure. People like krillen in dbsh are able to destroy cool multiverses which is kinda insane

[@Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy]

The "real world" in fiction is just a higher dimension. So depending on how big your cosmology is, the "real world" isnt impressive

[@Qoodeedingle]

@@Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy the cosmology is dbsh is N/A tho so I don’t really know

[@Qoodeedingle]

@@Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy but still he has plot haxs durability negations durability stealing hax speed stealing hax strength stealing and the key sword which if u get hit once all ur haxs go to xeno goku and all ur haxs are also gone permanently

[@CosmologyDunks]

@@Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy the real world is a conceptually higher reality, so the real world (beats world) is impressive

[@ko_or_helpok9831]

I have been waiting for this since toaster first mentioned it

[@kaio3500]

All this talk about outerversal hyperversal let’s talk about how Toaster scales with his psychic attacks the way he lives in these dragon ball fans heads rent free

[@kokushibotsugikuni865]

Xeno Goku will always win against Nasuverse except for a being such shiki, Gil and sab have pretty good hax but almost of the hax that are actually op are stored inside their objects/weapons, so even in a fight with weapons xeno Goku still have a batter chance because of his speed and his sword also has immortality/regeneration negation at High godly level so he is pretty much the winner. Shiki is not included though 😂😂

[@MrInuhanyou123]

When people don't know arcueid 💀

[@europa5068]

There alot people who think base sonic from the games can beat goku can you debunk that?

[@paggamaster9900]

We want a rematch!

[@pabloclemente1844]

NEVER cook again.

[@flapjackpanda]

I agree with the db fans, Xeno Goku can be scaled higher but likewise, so can the fate servants, Toast just intentionally lowballed fate for Db's sake because Fate is far more expansive and has way more to work with, like the scaling of the Outer gods or Chaos for example, there are also scales that get the planet to outerversal in fate so even lowballed servants can be outerversal and if you want to argue xeno goku can reach boundless, most of those arguments are terrible but lets assume he could, there are scales getting Void Shiki to boundless and there are even ones getting Gilgamesh to boundless as well, just consider this video a foundation to work with.

[@Angras_advocate18]

U got my sub for this fate vid. Nasuverse=peak