How Strong Is Kizaru?

[@ClarkeMichaelDuncan]

Dude I hate when people deny the mental nerfs of Kuzan and Kizaru and say shit like “if they didn’t wanna do it then why did they?” like it wasn’t clear as hell that they were doing their jobs kizaru himself said he was a cog in the machine and kuzan says he’s walking his own path

[@mstr293]

The thing is Luffy is also Kinda nerfed as he can’t go all out either in the risk of destroying the Island AND him being forced to chase Kizaru instead of outright using his whole arsenal.

[@mstr293]

Not underestimating the the Admirals but I’m stressing out that nobody went all out between the two due to circumstances.

[@jhaysoncarter1900]

The thing about kirazu, if he had wanted to He could have easily killed the entire worst generation without any issue

[@ashlol1839]

Kizaru did NOT oneshot Luffy Luffy said the barrier nearly killed him when he got up, so to Luffy barrier's ap>>speed amped Kizaru's ap The fight does NOT mean anything for the scaling community, since by reading comprehension, food breaks are a plot nerf(Luffy didn't need it in Wano) and he only used acoc twice Not to mention Luffy did NOT use advanced haki in snakeman, there wasn't even lightning or any effect

[@shashwatdewa2311]

where was it stated that luffy didnt use adv haki? which chapter, sentomaru used ryou and didnt even made kizaru feel anything, u think luffy is dumb? + even bonney got fired in barrier but was unfazed, she was nearly 100% in terms of hp so bonney>luffy in dura NO kizaru no diffed luffy to an extent that luffy sawattack but can react

[@mstr293]

Yeah! People forget that ACoC and Gear 4 are two separate powerups Luffy can use separately or simultaneously.

[@mstr293]

@@shashwatdewa2311ACoC requires intense focus. Kinda hard for Luffy to do when Kizaru is mostly fleeing or tricking him by pushing him away from his target. You also don’t see any sky-splitting clashes that also proves Kizaru is at that level of power. The vivre cards also confirm that Kizaru is not an ACoC user.

[@shashwatdewa2311]

@@mstr293 how d u know that luffy wasnt using acoc

[@shashwatdewa2311]

@@mstr293 i am saying that luffy used acoc, i never said anthing about kizaru having it

[@JanjoZone]

This...was actually really well put together.

[@Golden-m8b]

The most underrated one peace creator

[@sheipi9978]

clears the verse, so sad that oda had to hold him back this much

[@Jaleyoanime]

This is why i love your videos you make it so clear to us and you will still find people who will cope and say you're wrong

[@atarireeves2137]

Didn’t garp slap around kizaru and black beard’s commanders by himself 🥴 after the time slip with no power increase since he’s old like Rayleigh

[@atarireeves2137]

aokiji**

[@koz3ris252]

The only unbiased one-piece powerscaler on KZbin.

[@jextern7961]

Video idea: The eustass kid problem similar to the “sabo problem” video where he’s generally negatively perceived in the community and how it can be fixed/who he could fight in the future.

[@HowardHighbottom]

Are we seriously going to sit here and pretend like kaido wasn’t mentally nerfed when snake man had him stopped? He was drunk asf and bawling

[@Travis-r3l]

U gets more powerful when dunk

[@Yost-1]

Kaido getting drunk boosts his haki

[@aggelosgeorgopoulos4137]

Just checked in, I’ll just say he’s top 10 material, stronger than Luffy, but not by much

[@jasonxx9884]

Not stronger than luffy

[@yahomiemax]

@@jasonxx9884Child

[@Ghostofcalmaity]

Fair honestly

[@kollen5952]

current luffy is stronger than kaido Kaido was in his prime, while luffy entered onigashima without 2 major power ups that he got later by getting reckt. At the end of wano, kaido was arguably still stronger than luffy and maybe egghead's luffy close the gap. Later on we see that Egghead's gear 5 is stronger than the version kaido faced, it has at least new 10 named stronger attacks, plus it's current speed to match the pika pika no mi. Luffy can restart his heart at will like he did in wano, if he didnt do it in egghead thats a matter of bad writting or plot holding down the character, just like luffy forgetting about conquerors in egghead. Currently in Elbaf, Oda has given another HUGE upgrade to luffy : gear 4 attacks are as easy to pull now as gear 2 punches. Replace current luffy with wano's and kaido would be in trouble On chapter 1037 kaido states : ITS been many years since someone was abble to go toe to toe with me. Current luffy would mop the luffy from that chapter, now he has equal control over gear 2,3 and 4. Stamina is an issue only in gear 5 ( and thats only if the plot doesnt allow him restarting his heart ). Read kaido vs luffy again, gear 2,3 luffy was already evenly matched with hibrid level 2 kaido , ading gear 4 to that equation the one who should worry about stamina is kaido, not luffy. Goofy is now a whole ass island stronger.

[@kollen5952]

@@Ghostofcalmaity current luffy is stronger than kaido Kaido was in his prime, while luffy entered onigashima without 2 major power ups that he got later by getting reckt. At the end of wano, kaido was arguably still stronger than luffy and maybe egghead's luffy close the gap. Later on we see that Egghead's gear 5 is stronger than the version kaido faced, it has at least new 10 named stronger attacks, plus it's current speed to match the pika pika no mi. Luffy can restart his heart at will like he did in wano, if he didnt do it in egghead thats a matter of bad writting or plot holding down the character, just like luffy forgetting about conquerors in egghead. Currently in Elbaf, Oda has given another HUGE upgrade to luffy : gear 4 attacks are as easy to pull now as gear 2 punches. Replace current luffy with wano's and kaido would be in trouble On chapter 1037 kaido states : ITS been many years since someone was abble to go toe to toe with me. Current luffy would mop the luffy from that chapter, now he has equal control over gear 2,3 and 4. Stamina is an issue only in gear 5 ( and thats only if the plot doesnt allow him restarting his heart ). Read kaido vs luffy again, gear 2,3 luffy was already evenly matched with hibrid level 2 kaido , ading gear 4 to that equation the one who should worry about stamina is kaido, not luffy. Goofy is now a whole ass island stronger.

[@Alex-h5e9v]

Lets be real Kizaru could have killed luffy if he knew he was a menace. So kizaru (light speed) > Guffy G5

[@shashwatdewa2311]

yonko fans are sad bcz kaido n bm weren this well written

[@JT-km6th]

I’ve been saying it, admirals have more character depth because they’re based on Oda’s favourite actors

[@shashwatdewa2311]

@@JT-km6th just wait till main guy pulls up

[@OnePieceDrums]

agreed with this up until the snakeman argument. it’s clear you’re tremendously biased here, calling egghead snakemans attacks stronger than wano snakeman, when luffy wasn’t even using advanced conquerors haki in egghead. luffy was basically fighting kizaru with kiddy gloves for most of that fight, until he got serious, and made kizaru draw blood even though you claim kizaru wasn’t damaged at all during egghead. and once again, that was an unnamed gear 5 move that made kizaru bleed. and your implication that kizaru is more durable than kaidou just ruined any chance of me taking you seriously. very biased video.

[@DaeganJohn-de5bj]

Wow this was an amazing video finally someone who isn't biased and actually makes sense this is o great to see tbh @sage take notes

[@alexwebber6663]

Great video would like to add Kizaru did something that not even Kaido could do and that was wipe out most of the straw hat crew if he wanted to and G5 Luffy couldn't stop him. He could have ended both Ussop and Franky with Luffy not being able to do anything about it. Kizaru hasn't even awakened yet its just clear at this point he is easily top 10 I am sure Blackbeard will surpass him and Shanks is above but I don't see either Kaido or BM beating him.

[@dedahvsjihad6790]

Harsh Truth : KIZARU WAS HOLDING BACK AND WAS ON PAR W GEAR 5TH

[@mstr293]

So is Gear 5! None of the strongest arsenals of Gear 5 used against Kaido was used on Kizaru. That power is enough to destroy Egghead and he doesn’t want to do that with him and his friends still there. Kizaru also kept playing cat-and-mouse with Luffy. Forcing him to chase the Admiral, preventing him from going all out either.

[@jikey173]

⁠@@mstr293 I don’t see how luffy having to “chase” Kizaru because Kizaru is faster than him and it’s hard for him to keep up is a nerf for him. Sure, I guess Luffy wouldn’t want to destroy the island, but neither did Kizaru and kizaru had several nerfs on top of that. Him not using the moves he used on Kaido isn’t him really holding back either, but rather Luffy just trying to use the moves best fit for this scenario. For example, bajrang gun or luffy’s giant stomp would likely just not hit since we see how fast kizaru could leave the island. Saying that he’s holding back because he didn’t use a move we think might work better doesn’t make a lot of sense . I would say they’re still relative and a fight between them goes either way

[@angellettie]

@@jikey173 luffy solos lil bro

[@jikey173]

@@angellettie sure, whatever you say. I respect the agenda ig

[@Moh-b3j]

@@mstr293if luffy used barjang gun against kizaru he wouldve easily dodged it so it wouldve been waste. There are other ways to determine who is stronger instead of just sheer power and aura. battle iq and speed are also a factor

[@KyokaOshi]

Luffy literally attributes his damage due to going through the barrier twice to the point he thought he "was gonna die". Selective reading at its best

[@TheL3wajouh]

Clearly in the top 10 Above the Likes of BB,Fujitora and Shanks but lower than Akainu,Dragon and Mihawk

[@aayushbhandari8377]

not stronger than shanks bruhh. he could be stronger than bb rn but the story will progress to have bb > shanks > kizaru. kizaru and shanks are not getting a power up either cuz they in their prime. so , shanks > kizaru

[@TheL3wajouh]

@ Shanks will be dead by the final war and Kizaru will be there fighting. Shanks is cool but shouldn’t be glazed to the moon . He is only getting attention now because he will go sooner

[@Luke-h3l]

😂😂😂😂. You are funny. You have to be joking

[@AbbasAlqattan]

​@@TheL3wajouh except that shanks is oda golden boy and he would never lose to anyone other than imu , blackbeard , mihawk and akainu who are above and stronger than kizaru and aokiji and anyway akainu and imu are also in a race with one peice

[@TheL3wajouh]

@@AbbasAlqattan Kizaru doesn’t have to beat Shanks to be stronger than him. This is a battle shonen and powecliffing is a very common theme

[@DAGoat-c4y]

Stronger than luffy currently imo and the strongest admiral ( not fleet admiral) post timeskip

[@Orewaluffy777]

Explain me how exactly he is stronger than current luffy. You guys are just idiotic atp

[@DAGoat-c4y]

@@Orewaluffy777 he wasnt trying gaisnt luffy and even confimred he literally fed him. he never wanted to fight luffy and wasnt even showing his true strength. while in luffys side he was trying his absolute best to defeat kizaru and still went unsuccesfully. its obvious kizaru is strong atm

[@Orewaluffy777]

@@DAGoat-c4y he didn't try his absolute best. His main goal was to safeguard his crew and vegapunk as his promise to bonnie with also the added threat of the gorosei, not to "try his absolute best" and defeat him here. And I agree that kizaru too was holding back but then again he visibly got shaken after hits and was clearly struggling by the end. He got knocked out a few times.

[@kollen5952]

@@DAGoat-c4y current luffy is stronger than kaido Kaido was in his prime, while luffy entered onigashima without 2 major power ups that he got later by getting reckt. At the end of wano, kaido was arguably still stronger than luffy and maybe egghead's luffy close the gap. Later on we see that Egghead's gear 5 is stronger than the version kaido faced, it has at least new 10 named stronger attacks, plus it's current speed to match the pika pika no mi. Luffy can restart his heart at will like he did in wano, if he didnt do it in egghead thats a matter of bad writting or plot holding down the character, just like luffy forgetting about conquerors in egghead. Currently in Elbaf, Oda has given another HUGE upgrade to luffy : gear 4 attacks are as easy to pull now as gear 2 punches. Replace current luffy with wano's and kaido would be in trouble On chapter 1037 kaido states : ITS been many years since someone was abble to go toe to toe with me. Current luffy would mop the luffy from that chapter, now he has equal control over gear 2,3 and 4. Stamina is an issue only in gear 5 ( and thats only if the plot doesnt allow him restarting his heart ). Read kaido vs luffy again, gear 2,3 luffy was already evenly matched with hibrid level 2 kaido , ading gear 4 to that equation the one who should worry about stamina is kaido, not luffy. Goofy is now a whole ass island stronger.

[@kollen5952]

@@DAGoat-c4y current luffy is stronger than kaido Kaido was in his prime, while luffy entered onigashima without 2 major power ups that he got later by getting reckt. At the end of wano, kaido was arguably still stronger than luffy and maybe egghead's luffy close the gap. Later on we see that Egghead's gear 5 is stronger than the version kaido faced, it has at least new 10 named stronger attacks, plus it's current speed to match the pika pika no mi. Luffy can restart his heart at will like he did in wano, if he didnt do it in egghead thats a matter of bad writting or plot holding down the character, just like luffy forgetting about conquerors in egghead. Currently in Elbaf, Oda has given another HUGE upgrade to luffy : gear 4 attacks are as easy to pull now as gear 2 punches. Replace current luffy with wano's and kaido would be in trouble On chapter 1037 kaido states : ITS been many years since someone was abble to go toe to toe with me. Current luffy would mop the luffy from that chapter, now he has equal control over gear 2,3 and 4. Stamina is an issue only in gear 5 ( and thats only if the plot doesnt allow him restarting his heart ). Read kaido vs luffy again, gear 2,3 luffy was already evenly matched with hibrid level 2 kaido , ading gear 4 to that equation the one who should worry about stamina is kaido, not luffy. Goofy is now a whole ass island stronger.

[@marqusmedina5983]

5:06 this factually does exclude Garp plus It's confirmed Sengoku was the strongest marine at the time And kuzan only beat garp because Shiryu weakened him

[@truthnotfeelings]

Remember when Luffy stans were saying Kizaru couldn’t tag post time-skip Luffy because of his fear against the pacifistas 🤡🤓🤡

[@lukehusky2251]

My main issue with EggHead feats is it seemed like no one was at there best, especially the top tiers. Kizaru was mentally nerfed, the gorosei might just be bums, zoro took way to many chapters to deal with Lucci and Luffy wasnt spamming advanced conquerors or armnament the same way he was in wano. I hope we get to see a rematch between Luffy and Kizaru cuz felt like Kizaru was doing everything he could to not have to fight/hurt luffy as he knew once Luffy was dealt with he would have to take car of VP. all while Luffy wasnt using the level of haki he used against Kaido.

[@MoonGod_Zika]

Admiral position = Ultimate fighting force. Fujitora's VC states him and GB took up the position of "the ultimate force" after Kuzan left the marines

[@rodthedigger2902]

Great video!

[@cooldes4593]

I agree with what you are saying EXCEPT the Garp and Sengoku arguments. Not that you are necessarily wrong, but your arguments are extremely far from definitive. The statement of the admirals being the strongest force the navy has is very obviously true, but your strange need to exclude the fleet ADMIRAL from the title of admiral is very weird. I dont believe current garp is stronger than the admirals, but saying definitively he isnt excluded even though he was offered to be an admiral is weird

[@Xenonital]

W mans putting respect on my goats name. People say 'luffy was holindg back too' To extent yes, he cant use bajrang gun to wipe out the island because his crew is on there. But why would he hold back on the strongest enemy that is preventing luffy, his crew and the vegapunks to escape (which was his top priority )

[@_Jayskiii_]

Luffy victim mid diff 🥱

[@TheProphetLot]

Have a good day

[@julianw2459]

Big Business? I smell a fellow rat😂

[@ultimasurge]

good points my man

[@i_almighty8250]

6:45 lol bums that’s crazy 😂

[@LookDeast]

Great video, i think he is not stronger than gear 5 luffy. I agree that he was holding back but so was luffy. Luffy's real goal was to get the crew safely out of there. We really didnt see much from luffy as well. And luffy actually was able to match his speed in the fight as we saw. Kizaru was visibly struggling by the end as well. Oda literally made a fight sequence and showed that luffy had surpassed admiral level and still people be comparing him to kizaru in the comments 😂

[@XangoFwet]

“Surpassed Admiral Level”? What does that even mean? Neither Bigmom nor Buggy are beating any of the admirals

[@Xenonital]

So, luffy wants to get his crew and vegapunk to safety, so he hold back on the strongest enemy thats preventing him from doing so? Is that right?

[@LookDeast]

@@Xenonital yes in a way. First off his main goal was not to kill kizaru right there so he was not 100% committed to the fight just like how most of the admirals glazers here say that kizaru was holding back which is a baseless speculation. Now you can argue that my one is a speculation too. OK now look at this. Luffy was fighting both saturn and kizaru at the same time. And either of them were able to fulfill their mission of killing vegapunk and destroying Egghead because they were being stopped by luffy. That literally shows that luffy at his current level could handle a gorosei and admiral at the same time, again I didn't say he would defeat both of them, but he could handle them. So in a way, was holding back on kizaru because his 100% focus was not on kizaru but it was also on saturn who actually had better feats against luffy than kizaru

[@louiswalusimbi8006]

Kizaru was confident that he could pull on Kaido AND Big Mom. Luffy proceeded to disrespect Kaido like it was no one’s business as soon as he accessed Gear 5. An all out fight between the two would be nuts.

[@ykKairu24]

Nah this was great video bro we gotta collab one day

[@amansharma4358]

Current Luffy Extreme-diffs Kizaru. Amd This is what Proves that Admiral and Yonko are relative to Each Other. Kizaru is my favorite Admiral. He didn't beat Luffy in Egghead because WG didn't paid him enough.

[@Naldinho456]

Kizaru didn't use advanced haki Which yonko tards glaze alot saying haki >df but when it comes to admirals the conversation changes

[@SUPERRRRR-g2v]

9:19 nah bro, you always downplaying kaido bro.

[@KyokaOshi]

Funny how they bring up snakeman from wano as a reference but not proving that luffy is using all 3 types of advanced haki at the same time on egghead. Not to mention the massive assumption that "egghead luffy gaps wano luffy". Huge claims like that cannot be proven

[@zpbv]

I’ve got him 6th on my strongest op list he’s defiantly so underrated

[@KizaruGoat]

My goat

[@JT-km6th]

Do you think Kizaru got hit on purpose? He conveniently blocks every single attack but as soon as Saturn has front row seats he doesn’t attempt to block, takes the attack, then feeds Luffy.

[@Yost-1]

Gear 5 is physically stronger than kizaru but kizaru wins when he outlasts gear 5

[@bromous1446]

Kizaru is strong, but this video feels more like glaze than anything tbh. For one, while I agree that those 3 were the strongest in the navy, the admiral title is what the narrator, and many other characters reference for that position. Specifically saying that the admirals are the strongest military force, and the admirals are the strongest in the navy. There are also narrator text boxes saying they’re the strongest in the WG, but I can’t find them so take that with a grain of salt if u just don’t believe it. I’ve seen the panels, but like I said, can’t find them. Kizaru being willing to stop BM and Kaido from forming an alliance doesn’t mean he can beat both of them, and honestly doesn’t even mean he can beat one. I believe he can based on feats, but that statement isn’t what makes it a fact. Him tanking WSG amped by his own attack (the laser that caused Luffy to get so much momentum he spun out of control) is an impressive dura feat, especially since he was nerfed, but again, that doesn’t put his dura above Kaido. WSG does more internal than external damage, we honestly don’t know how bad of a condition Kizaru’s brain was in after that attack. We saw that the first iteration of WSG had Kaido stunned, but again didn’t hardly do anything to his actual face. I agree with the conclusion that Kizaru can match most top tiers, and likely beat a few like BM, BB, Fuji, and GB, even Luffy tbh but I think they’re equal so Luffy can also beat him, but against other top tiers, he’s most probably weaker than them.

[@Fnafmaster1359]

Peak video!

[@nikjovan4816]

The thing about Fujitora and Greenbull is that they should be at least as strong as the OG Admirals at MF. Jimbei said in Fishman Island that under Fleet Admiral Akainu the Marines have become an even stronger force. If the two new Admirals are weaker than Aokiji who left and Akainu who is now Fleet Admiral then I don't know if you can say they have gotten stronger. They should be relative to Kizaru, especially since it is basically defined as a strength position by Cross Guild. A 3 Billion bounty across the board. Of course the Marines got the Pacifista so maybe it meant that.

[@TotallyNotABurrito]

Some this to note: Because of Whitebeards sickness he was unable to use haki during marineford. That’s why he couldn’t use conq to stop the execution or observation to dodge his sons attack So it’s not guaranteed that Kizaru possesses adv haki. It’s likely but not confirmed

[@crushcreate1461]

If Whitebeard couldn't use Haki, how could he damage Akainu at all then? It did take a sneak attack to actually hit Akainu, but when he did the attack damaged him.

[@Jb-id1bu]

Just to clarify, this isn't a plot point. Its a common headcanon, it has never once been stated anywhere that Whitebeard was just randomly unable to use Haki (which would be inconsistent with every other example we have had of old, sick or injured people in One Piece. Not a single one in the entire story just stops being able to use Haki, or had their usage restricted from advanced applications to the most basic forms. Roger had pirate cancer and a year to live and was still throwing around advanced Haki at the same level as Prime Whitebeard. Old Garp and Rayleigh were perfectly fine using advanced forms of Haki. Even Hyogoro after decades of imprisonment, slave labor and near starvation. So old age and illness don't have much to do with the ability to use Haki, beyond maybe weakening it. And injury? Most characters greatest Haki feats come when they are seriously injured. .). Quite the opposite actually, as it was confirmed thst he WAS using Haki during Marineford, and never said thst he wasn't. People use one random statement of Marco's (that didn't reference Haki at all so much as Whitebeard's physical health) to argue that, and also assume that the reason he didn't use Conquerors Haki to blast down a bunch of Marines was the he COULDN'T.....when there were half a dozen peoppe or more that had Conquerors Haki at Marineford and the only one who used it in that way during the entire war was Luffy......and not a single person thinks that those people were outright incapable of doing so. The only other argument people have is applying modern Haki standards to Marineford and saying "Well it he could why didn't he do this or that?". ......sorry about the rant, but the "Whitebeard couldn't use Haki" thing is one of my pet peeves. Lol. So many people just SAY it, and tell new fans that its a canon fact when its just one of those things that started as headcanon and got spread around until people stopped remembering that. 😅

[@Yost-1]

@@Jb-id1buarmament he could use but he couldn’t use conquerors

[@Yost-1]

@@Jb-id1buor observation

[@lolkollkj]

The cope in the comments are so mad that they can’t admit kizaru is way stronger than luffy and can beat kaido and big mom if he wanted to without being awakened yet is funny 😂

[@OnePieceDrums]

you’re just a dumbass lmao

[@toonloco]

😳🤯🤯😶‍🌫️mind blown! When u realize them being the top 3 in the marine actually means that's they are the top 3 😱😄yea this makes since tho 🤔 so would it be like 1 akainu 2 kuzan 3 kizaru 4 garp 5 sengoku 6 blind man 7 greenbull?

[@Vertics_]

@@toonloco I’ve made a video ranking the marines if your that interested in it

[@toonloco]

@Vertics_ o yea I think I watched it I think we said close to the same I understand y u would have greenbull an blind man over sengoku but other than that we said about the same

[@Reisutheguru]

Alot of watchu said isnt confirmed at all like kizaru having future sight while i do agree that he has advanced armament future sight is kinda a stretch when hes gotten blitzed by apoo before and gear 5 multiple times while u could say he was jus nerfed

[@Reisutheguru]

But to say that he used future sight just because he used the functions of his devil fruit hows its supposed to be used naturally isnt enough evidence aokiji is an exception for one hes ice so you have to make contact and 2 he was stabbed verses a slash which warping and seperation are very different usage of logias/paramecias katakuri warps/spaces himself as aokiji did kizaru never does this

[@akwesirobinson1710]

But I don’t think Ben Beckmann a normal first commander at all it been potrayed like he a vice captain like Rayleigh and what zoro going to be when the first commander is close in power with the captain

[@narem1092]

Oda is really hurting these characters by putting them in nerfing conditions(external factors), our favorite big brother Katakuri got his moment with the Flampe situation, Doffy got his via the Birdcage, Fuji wasn't serious to begin with, Kaido was carrying Onigashima the whole 10 minutes(One Piece Standard Time), Fuji(My Man) vs My Main Man(GreenBull whom we still refuse to Aramaki because of standards) couldn't go all out because Celestials, you can make an argument for Kidd vs Shanks/BB pirates vs Hearts Pirates, both were in similar position, hurt, i cant really comment on Kizaru vs Luffy yet(I read Manga, not in details, more like a summary) but he too was in that same position, we expected him to drop the whole "talk slowly", thought it was cover up for a moment. Bleach and Naruto don't do that, the writers pull the trigger and hard at the same time.. external factors like collateral damage don't contribute aka Ichigo vs Aizen(he checked to see if his sisters were safe and far enough not to be impacted during the fight), Naruto vs Pain(same thing, don't interfere ill handle this), Naruto vs Gaara(lets push Gaara away from the village and Sakura) or the Gentei kaijo in Bleach One Piece characters don't get that, ohh look White Beard strongest dude alive, lets put IV Drips(not clothing, meds) on him to indicate Old Age so when Akainu beat his ass up we'll say (Old Age) Hiruzen and Yamamoto even Ohnoki their age didnt mean squat. Look at Garp and Shiryu's sword, argument = Old Age aka Not in His Prime. The few moments Yamamoto went in battle age was the last thing on everybody minds, even in death, old age didn't kill him. Hiruzen too, old age wasn't on anybody's mind, even the kids knew that he look old but could throw hands, old age wasn't a cause of their deaths. Luffy vs Rob Lucci part one, should have been the standard. I feel like we are going to more and more fights like this, "they weren't going all out because the people were around, old age" Plus the whole Gear 5 thing of Luffy's stamina going to the negatives after using it, why is that a downside to very powerful powerup, next thing we are going to get is (he fought for 12 minutes, exhausted himself and there were no food around so that's why he lost in Gear 5, not because Vice Admiral Momonga>Luffy G5) Imagine we get a Dragon fight, it going super well, he is doing everything Garp and Luffy do in battle, smile and laugh, he flexes his haki skills but wait, there are citizens around so he let himself get captured because he doesn't want to harm them. sad world.

[@crushcreate1461]

Yeah, One Piece has a massive problem with nerfing its characters that other shonen tend to avoid. It makes it nearly impossible to judge how strong characters are supposed to actually be. The way Oda fanboys over Akainu suggests he should be among the strongest in the verse, but because of what happens in the Whitebeard fight, admiral haters call him fodder. That particular example is disingenuous as Whitebeard only lands a hit because Akainu is off guard, but people still use it to say sick, half dead Whitebeard is stronger than Akainu. I agree with most of what you said, but the Hiruzen example is flawed as Orochimaru later states that he would have lost if Hiruzen was ten years younger.

[@liamnathan2847]

I agree with most of this, but he got demolished by White Star Gun!!! Luffy was practically never using ACOC during their fight but the one time he did, was with White Star Gun which put Kizaru down!!! Saying he took the attack better than Kaido is ridiculous when you think of how much more damage Kaido took compared to Kizaru!!! Kizaru was FULL HP and was still dropped by the attack!!!!

[@ltsMotion]

Ok you lied about the Ben beckmen thing he was stated to be scared of him and Ben is a vice captain not a 1st commander

[@jakzelirizarry8446]

KIZARU THE ONE TRUE ADMIRAL GOAT

[@CaptainEtok]

Great video the fact it’s become so common in the community to downplay the admirals for no reason is so corny, Kizaru is very clearly stronger than Luffy atm, even if Luffy was stronger Kizaru could simply outlast him and would still win the fight

[@robloxcar4279]

Agreed, plus he did all of that without using conq haki which makes it more impressive imo

[@lolkollkj]

Imagine if he had it he’d probably could be shanks level if that’s the case with awakening

[@shayoko6]

10:26 stated to be above garp and sengoku? what chapter was this?

[@_Jayskiii_]

Chapter 526, Two Piece

[@Gikkou]

He hasn’t even awaken yet, he is going to be broken

[@atarireeves2137]

He literally spit up blood with luffy grabbed him

[@michaelwilliams4024]

No, it's clear as day that the faction of admirals is the strongest force in the marines. All 3 were taken as a collective as opposed to one fleet admiral. It's the same case now that akainu is the fleet admiral. The admirals are still the strongest force the marines have. Now that doesn't mean individual characters in the marines can't be stronger than them outside of admirals its just the admirals are the highest position u can achieve, which is just straight strength alone. Fleet admirals are just as strong as admirals it just means that they are in a higher position.

[@JT-km6th]

People don’t like marines so much they want them to be a non-factor in the story 😂 imagine storyboarding with some people’s agendas

[@DaeganJohn-de5bj]

Whew Chile here we go again😣

[@rdrummer2]

We're not really sure how strong Kizaru is, but we know he can potentially compete with Yonko, at least to sone extent. He wont get one shotted by Yonko like that Before you come to me saying Luffy one shotted him, no he didn't. Luffy landed a blow that put kizaru down very shortly, but not knocked out. Getting one shotted is what happened when Luffy first fought Kaido or when Kid fought Shanks. That's what a one shot is And besides, we KNOW Kizaru wasn't going all out on Egghead, he wasn't at his best when he was fighting Luffy. He was having doubts and heavily conflicted, and Rayleigh told us, to not having doubts, that is strenght, and Kizaru clearly was doubting and was not at his best So we don't really know how strong or on what level he is, until we see Kizaru at his absolute best and fighting without holding back

[@eloquitodelaesquina]

Im telling you, just extrapolating Kizaru to a fight to the death ONLY with what hes shown taken to a stamina limit hes already ovr Big Mom If we speculate a logia awakening on top Kaido should be worried

[@Ninja-ixy]

Hello Vertics

[@Vertics_]

@@Ninja-ixy yo yo

[@SgtSourD]

Wow someone who actually knows how to read op fire video

[@mrskat317]

my thoughts is that this video is agenda asf 😭Marco took lots of damage because he was offguard from the lasers and sea prism was put on him which drains you of all your energy and power (even then he got back up fine and started boxing w akainu) Kizaru was aimlessly swinging but when you claimed he started swinging faster Rayleigh literally matched that speed so by that logic was Rayleigh also aimlessly swinging? I mean the only one who acc done damage the entire fight was rayleigh.. And he was still able to escape from Kizaru after, didnt' even want to beat Kizaru either as he wanted his bounty to be put down. Kizaru says this, then Marco throws another kick that slams him down into base. not only is the most powerful officers thing a mistranslation, but the post timeskip admirals have it so i suppose they are above fleet admiral sakazuki then. Along with the fact Sengoku states post timeskip that Garp continues to refuse the rank of admiral, the title consistently comes with people who use the admiral title, hence akainu is no longer called it. the most powerful officers thing is a mistrans it means supreme fighting force which ryokugyu and fujitora do have, multiple times. Kuzan had to gang up on garp its stated in 1126 plus garp got weakened by shiryu stated. stop bigmom from going to wano and meeting kaido, not beating both of them and on his own is a baseless assumption. Kizaru was nerfed yes, that's obvious, but a mental nerf affecting you constantly is also baseless, people don't think of things every minute of every day, that's just not genuine, nor is the notion every single stat is nerfed by a mental nerf, very few would actually be affected. Not to mention g4 was the one slapping Kizaru's lasers away in 1092, and the fact that the only reason "Kaido was pushed back by snakeman temporarily" was simply due to the fact the attack was offguard anyway all you need to do is read 1041 and it will show u him putting his guard down to mourn bigmom, hence when he locked back in he went into a slower form in his dragon form and dodged all of sm's attacks then blitzed him successfully. Luffy states in 1092 it was the barrier that made him worry, he went past it twice, and hit the robot and several other things, at the velocity kizaru kicked him at. Kizaru's kick wasn't the only thing that damaged him there at all, Kizaru also amped himself with momentum he literally states it, it's also a speed form NOT a durability form that Luffy was in. Luffy literally healed so many times through the arc, just like ur argument for kizaru being untouched although we visibly see bruises in the panel u used, Luffy quite literally was after eating food, until we came back after his offscreen encounter with warcury. The only one who could have possibly damaged him was warcury offscreen, we seen Luffy heal from anything Kizaru done to him. the rest ion need to give my thoughts on.

[@Ghostofcalmaity]

Akainu Mihawk kuzan Shanks dragon are all top 5 (and I won’t discuss where they are in the top 5 cause I’ll be hung for it but I’ll show the 12-6) 6.Blackbeard 7.kizaru 8.luffy 9.kaido 10.Fujitora 11.greenbull 12.Big mom

[@kollen5952]

@@Ghostofcalmaity When shanks lost his arm to a fish he was mihawk's rival and that says a lot about mihawk's strengh. Time passed and shanks became yonkou at 33 and currently he is 39. His feats speak to his growth while Mihawk postponed a fight with vista. There are no contestants for the title of swordman, lil bro created a league with him and pre time skip zoro and called himself the champ of It. The day mihawk do those, you come back : -Neg diffing a kid or law -Make Fujitora twerk -Sky Split with Shanks/Luffy - Kaido's top 5 - being praised as close to joyboy Oda sent vista to stalemate mihawk. This was made by ODA. And don't tell me he was holding back, Mihawk acknowledged Vista strength and wanted to postpone the duel which means the fight would be mid diff at the very least. Can you imagine Marco sending Vista to stop Kaido? I can't see happening. It's like Katakuri sending Perospero to stop Kaido. ODA didnt do that

[@kollen5952]

@@Ghostofcalmaity current luffy is stronger than kaido Kaido was in his prime, while luffy entered onigashima without 2 major power ups that he got later by getting reckt. At the end of wano, kaido was arguably still stronger than luffy and maybe egghead's luffy close the gap. Later on we see that Egghead's gear 5 is stronger than the version kaido faced, it has at least new 10 named stronger attacks, plus it's current speed to match the pika pika no mi. Luffy can restart his heart at will like he did in wano, if he didnt do it in egghead thats a matter of bad writting or plot holding down the character, just like luffy forgetting about conquerors in egghead. Currently in Elbaf, Oda has given another HUGE upgrade to luffy : gear 4 attacks are as easy to pull now as gear 2 punches. Replace current luffy with wano's and kaido would be in trouble On chapter 1037 kaido states : ITS been many years since someone was abble to go toe to toe with me. Current luffy would mop the luffy from that chapter, now he has equal control over gear 2,3 and 4. Stamina is an issue only in gear 5 ( and thats only if the plot doesnt allow him restarting his heart ). Read kaido vs luffy again, gear 2,3 luffy was already evenly matched with hibrid level 2 kaido , ading gear 4 to that equation the one who should worry about stamina is kaido, not luffy. Goofy is now a whole ass island stronger.

[@lolkollkj]

@@kollen5952look I’m being honest kaido is overrated he’s still top 10 alive but not top 5

[@jikey173]

I think most people agree now that kizaru is relative to current luffy.

[@Naldinho456]

His stronger tgan lufgy

[@AkainuIsking]

akainu one shots fodder marco

[@Wasnt-1]

kizaru is definitely above commander level he easily low balled gear 4th luffy that even katakuri have struggled to keep up with and even go toe to toe with saturn against gear 5th luffy

[@mstr293]

Based on what I’ve seen in Manga, it’s clear that Luffy excels above Kizaru in AP and durability. It’s obvious as Kizaru doesn’t even have ACoC. Kizaru’s mental nerf doesn’t even look like a good argument as Luffy is forced to chase him instead of battling face-to-face. Kizaru may have recovered first, but he never managed to deal significant blows to Luffy while Luffy managed to do so. Three times! Luffy is very well above the Admiral, BUT ONLY IN GEAR 5! Luffy when using Gear 4 and ACoC proves that he’s still below the likes of the the Admirals and the OG Yonko. Including Shanks, Kaido, and even Old WB, Big Mom and BB. Gear 5 is superior to Kizaru based on feats except for speed and stamina. Had Kizaru kept playing cat-and-mouse with Gear 5, Kizaru would’ve won by exhausting the form and exposing Luffy’s vulnerability while in his “old-man” state.

[@atarireeves2137]

Luffy literally said he almost died going through that barrier twice lol you just trolling for comments?

[@askindo]

kizaru is realy strong but ben dog walks him

[@Faceless99888]

Next video how high is borsalino kizaru😆😆😆

[@UncleLincoln]

Beckman is said to be nearly as strong as shanks

[@Lordthirdd]

1. Imu 2. Dragon 3. Shanks 4. Mihawk 5. Warcury 6. Akainu 7. Kaido ❓ 8. Garling 9. Venasujuro 10. Shamrock 11. Luffy 12. Blackbeard 13. Big mom ❓ 14. Shiki ❓ 15. Marcus mars 16. Aokiji 17. Ju peter 18. Ben beckman 19. Kizaru 20. Fujitora 21. Zoro 22. Garp (old) 23. Loki 24. Sabo 25. Greenbull 26. Bullet 27. Sengoku (old) 28. Rayleigh (old) 29. Yamato 30. Kid 31. Law 32. Shilliew 33. Sanji 34. Marco 35. Lucci 36. King 37. Katakuri 38. Weevil 39. Crocodile 40. Magellen 41. Yassop 42. Kuma 43. Killer 44. Lucky Roo 45. Jinbe 46. S Hawk 47. S Bear 48. Queen 49. Boa 50. Vista

[@zura17]

yes bro lets completely skip Aokiji

[@i_almighty8250]

Shanks over Mihawk lol Yea you lost me there

[@Lordthirdd]

@@zura17 he number 17

[@Yost-1]

@@Lordthirddaokiji is same level as akainu only a little weaker so he is atleast right under kaido

[@Lordthirdd]

@Yost-1 look at full list, it’s a few people that’s in between them like big mom, shiki, kaido, maybe Marcus mars etc. it’s very close 1-10 is like splitting hairs same w 15-30

[@K1ddq784]

1st twin

[@UncleLincoln]

He is my fav admiral

[@usflsnumber1fan280]

HE'S Stronger than Goku

[@Packirup1234]

if your next kizaru video isnt more than 20min long im gonna dislike the video incase u didnt get the memo this is a threat

[@kollen5952]

around mihawk's level, a bit stornger than old garp, kuzan

[@lolkollkj]

Most based take

[@Leeeditz131]

W

[@wholecakes]

Top 2 speed

[@ItsSake]

common W

[@YayoHernandez-b1j]

I’m sure he can defeat kuzan as well as the mad red dog if he took his job seriously also he’s a coward. He could’ve chosen not to obey the order to kill his friend the doctor, but he did it.

[@joeygamingnl2724]

People who still think Kaido, Bigmom or Luffy beats him are so braindead

[@ravenwing8742]

He got knocked out, with luffys attack. That was internal damage. Otherwise he would have kept going

[@EliMula]

Decent ragebait

[@brothsipper-h5o]

My guy Kizaru litterally got on shot by Luffy two different times

[@lolkollkj]

If kaido got hit by the same attacks he would’ve gotten back up slower remember this is a stronger luffy with gear 5

[@itznub69]

Yeah you haven’t read the story

[@ms12oscillation456]

4th comment.....

[@lasteep]

W