How Strong Was Netero? - HxH

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[@AndrewManook]

Zero Hand is the entirety of Netero's aura, just a basic emitter attack, but the fact that it can even damage Meruem is pretty insane, that's an insane amount of aura

[@TheLastCrow5150]

Which is unbelievable since he was revealed by Togashi to be a natural enhancer

[@theburgerking1236]

@@TheLastCrow5150Yeah the craziest thing about Netero is really he’s just so strong his own abilities don’t even fall under enhancement far as I’m aware the Guanyin falls under conjuration and manipulation

[@TheLastCrow5150]

@@theburgerking1236 Exactly! That's why is was a trip when Togashi released the data book and showed he was an enhancer. The training he put himself through was enhancer. I imagine the conjuration was his way of being able to use his mach speed movements in a much wider area. The restrictions would've been crazy. Three categories of nen used in a hatsu. Even Xeno felt the time warp just by being next to him when he hit Pitou

[@Friendguystarcraft]

Guanyin is a combination of conjuration, manipulation, and enhancement (which is still insane that he dove into two nen types that are so distant from enhancement)

[@Dell-ol6hb]

@@theburgerking1236 Guanyin is an emitter ability which he then uses manipulation to control, this is because emitter is closest to Netero's 100% enhancer affinity so it makes more sense to use than conjuration. Plus if it was conjured Meruem could just destroy it since you can't conjure anything indestructible

[@Hissingace110]

For what it's worth, despite my criticisms about certain things you said, I still completely agree with a large majority of the video. Netero has very clear scaling that places him way above the entire Phantom Troupe, for example, and I also can't imagine most humans having a solution to his ability.

[@rushpatriot2866]

They have to sacrifice something huge and more than likely be a prodigy like gon to take him down. That's the only thing I could think of. If you're already pretty badass and decide to sacrifice your life in a contract you could probably stalemate

[@grusolosanyverse8279]

I would just pray harder than him and then sacrifice a newborn.

[@Hissingace110]

@BeeruzChrysler Consider these two counterpoints: #1: Netero is the most powerful enhancer we've witnessed. It stands to reason that his durability is more than enough to withstand his own slaps. Presumably, he's miles above Uvogin. #2: The more important point, Meruem and Pitou were helpless to react to Netero's attacks. Meruem chose to simply give up and tank them while seeking an opening. If Meruem can't react to the attacks, what hope does Chrollo have, let alone Goreinu have?

[@Hissingace110]

@BeeruzChrysler Your point about Netero likely not using much aura to protect himself is fair enough, though it's also speculation to assume he can even be moved without the ability automatically following. And I understand that in HxH, weaker characters can still have a chance against stronger characters if the conditions are right, but it's also critical to understand that HxH also allows for insurmountable gaps, as shown by Bisky. So the thing we're actually imagining here is a character with faster reaction time than Meruem, with the power to switch places with his opponent instantly. If such a character existed, and the other assumptions we're making about Netero's defenses and his direct attachment to his ability are correct, then sure. I never intended to disagree with a hypothetical like that.

[@Hissingace110]

@@BeeruzChrysler Once again, I find that we're agreeing on several things here, but arguing over details. Some of which are important in my opinion. First, I don't agree at all that what we see from Pitou's reaction indicates that their reaction speed exceeds Meruem's at any point. Especially in the anime, where we spend much more time with Meruem admiring Netero's first attack just before it happens, and also where we interrupt the attack on Pitou for Zeno to explain that Pitou was experiencing time dilation. While it's not impossible for me to imagine Pitou's reactions or senses being sharper, I don't think it's a reasonable thing to state with confidence. I'm far more inclined to believe Meruem exceeds all three of the guard in every category by a lot. Second, I actually agree with you completely that Killua outspeeds post-mortem Pitou, who is most likely faster than living Pitou. It's a controversial opinion, but definitely one that's rooted in strong evidence, in my opinion. That said, we're still making a fair few assumptions to arrive at a character's ability to deal with Netero. Third, I really don't think stealing Killua's ability would even work for Chrollo, unless he also underwent some extreme electricity torture training. Further, it's not clear how much Godspeed relies on Killua's innate reaction speeds. He's got lots of feats outside of Godspeed that would be hard to scale against Chrollo, even as far back as when he was watching Gon's fight against Hanzo, or when he caught the whips in Heaven's Arena, or when he dismantled the mosquito ant's arms mid-attack, etc. To be clear, I'm not trying to indicate that Netero is unkillable or unbeatable by humans or anything like that. Just that he's far above what's been demonstrated by the Troupe (barring Chrollo's clash with two Zoldycks). I could even see Chrollo winning instantly by just throwing out Shalnark's needle and teleporting Netero into the path of the projectile, but sadly we don't know much about the teleportation ability he already has.

[@GraveUypo]

i can't elaborate on why, but in my head canon i always thought he was second only to the king. he can overcome vast power gaps (meaning he can beat up people stronger than himself in base stats) with technique alone. the royal guard might have been stronger, but the gap was NOT wide enough, plus they're were not wise enough. they would get toyed with like insects. in fact if the king hadn't leaned so much from komugi, i'm fairly sure netero would have beaten him too, despite the massive gulf.

[@dimensionvisitor7689]

you head canon would be correct, if it's not for the fact that alive pitou is actually confirmed to be the actual second only to the king in a guide book (ignoring adult gon) so your head canon applies to pouf and youpi (you're not wrong either, since that's 2/3).

[@dimensionvisitor7689]

side note, the only royal guard that's not as wise as netero is youpi, both pitou and pouf are at least relative, with pouf arguably being worse due to his mind being his biggest weakness

[@hassanhassan-os5oq]

​@@dimensionvisitor7689the guide books are notoriously unreliable

[@dimensionvisitor7689]

@@hassanhassan-os5oq yet it's still more reliable than most of the fans, which is crazy

[@hassanhassan-os5oq]

@@dimensionvisitor7689 can't really argue with that most of hxh fans can't even read

[@Tupadre97]

That last point about Netero was great. Really shows how deep and layered Togashi's writing truly is.

[@SatorisYT]

Loved the video! Glad to see some Netero hype! I always thought he was above the Royals, but you've shown me some arguments that I hadn't even been aware of before!

[@ExplorersXRotmg]

I mean doesn't Netero when he drops in the palace actually looking for a fight literally call Pitou attacking at full power "Little ant" before smacking him/her away? Bro full disrespected there.

[@roryshamus4054]

There’s a cool detail about Netero you didn’t mention, you didn’t have to but it’s cool, he’s very much not a peaceful Buddhist so his Hatsu being a buddhist saint of mercy is ironic, and that’s why the statue is crying

[@whispr_2ME]

Great video. For the Zodiacs: I just want to mention that Parriston was surprised that Ging was about to let him see what his "ability" is, which implies that the rest of the Zodiac don't actually know much about what Ging can do and arguably don't know much about what each other can do either. This makes me think that any kind of group sparring with Netero didn't invovle the Zodiacs (or at least Ging) using any Hatsu. Alternatively this could mean that Netero only ever sparred 1v1 with them.

[@demysoda]

This video was really enjoyable, favorite hxh one so far. I don't know too much about power scaling at all but I feel like Ging is superior to the other zodiacs and would put up more of a fight than the others idk. Great vid hope to see more

[@TheSkinnyGiraffe]

Rip versions 1 and 2 of this video

[@ItsUzele]

Bro the Naruto power scalers need you to debate with them. You’re the only powerscaler I’ve seen who doesn’t say anything ridiculous lol

[@ChaosRUsEnt]

One of the best HxH vids ive ever watched

[@ucid5363]

you deserve way more views and subs i bet if the uploads r more often youll get up there💯

[@thermophile1695]

For those interested, I'll try to explain the mechanics of Netero's ability: The bodhisattva is a conjuration and manipulation ability. While his aura type of enhancement makes this weaker, this is made up for by the restrictions placed on it. Overall, I'd say the attacks of the bodhisattva are probably comparable to his physical attacks, with two main differences. First, reach. This gives him a ton of flexibility when he activates his time compression against massively faster opponents. Second, it costs no aura. We know that this is the case both based in his certainty he could outlast someone with a massively larger aura pool, and the statement that he used every drop of aura for zero hand. How could it cost no aura, you ask? Well, he has to put in aura to conjure the statue, but he can simply reclaim it and re use it to summon it again. He uses manipulation to move it, but he doesn't consume aura unless he puts aura into his attacks. Which explains why it doesn't damage even Pitou; the attacks are purely physical. The hundred type guanyin bodhisattva isn't meant to defeat opponents. Its meant to wear them down by forcing them to expend aura to protect themselves while Netero spends none, until they're weak enough for zero hand to destroy them completely. Zero hand also has the crazy condition of needing days of preparation before use, so his entire aura is probably multiplied by 5 or so.

[@Zoomyii]

Nah tbh this video was amazing just the whole thing especially the analysts at the end

[@Kurushimi1729]

20:35 En range and the distance your nen can be felt are two different things. Zeno was stated as having an impressive en range of 300 meters. But Killua was able to sense Illumi in the scene where he got mad at Hisoka from a distance that looked more than that. I wouldn't conclude from this that Illumi's en range surpasses Zenos.

[@loturzelrestaurant]

Most Fans dont realize that Conjuration-Nen has a Replacement-Variant, as shown by Tsubone, Ikalgo and Greed Island. A Mechanic that i imagine to be quite popular

[@nonsononessunooko4066]

Netero was an enchanter at the start but after a certain god level of power in HxH you become so powerful that in one attack you check all the class or even in all your combat style.. so he basically trained so much that he unlocked all of them... every hunter can use any type of class combat like enchanter to conjurer but it aint that easy

[@rentristandelacruz]

"How Strong Was Netero?" STRONK!

[@batmon696]

Video idea: atomic samurai vs demon hunter, etc. Your video quality is great!

[@thesevendeadlysins578]

For me, I view a "few' as three to four, five at most. "Several" is 6 to 11. 12 is a dozen, then I use the numbers to name them up to 24+ which goes to "Dozens".

[@rushpatriot2866]

Several by definition means more than two but not too many so it could be anywhere from 3 up to whatever number you think too many is

[@unnoticed9988]

The fact that this was an old Netaro. Insanity.

[@TheLastCrow5150]

What's crazy is that Togashi revealed that Netero was naturally an enhancer and not a conjurer.

[@boozados]

Simple and determined

[@ghostlypitou2746]

20:02 OH HELL NAH UUUUUUU ONE OF DEM

[@Tylearned]

HE LIVES!

[@loturzelrestaurant]

Most Fans dont realize that Conjuration-Nen has a Replacement-Variant, as shown by Tsubone, Ikalgo and Greed Island. A Mechanic that i imagine to be quite popular

[@boboctusnagy8360]

Im interested how strong is Razor

[@AndrewManook]

6:07 Top 5 Nen users has nothing to do with strength (Though they should be pretty strong) and has everything to do with their understanding of Nen, they would utilise Nen better than anyone else.

[@ethanlong4888]

Only critique about the video so far is we just don’t know how powerful beyond netaro is, all we know is that he went to the dark continent, got what he was looking for, lost it, got one of the calamities, and then went back.

[@theyoungknight.3119]

11:06 That edit worked so perfectly! 😂

[@Underworldwarrior1]

Great video man 😁

[@SuperPeterok]

Need a video on how strong Silva Zoldyck is

[@kojirod.dragon3724]

Need a video on how strong Hisoka is……

[@kat-lego]

I never would've got that message if you hadn't explained it

[@fisal8942]

9:08 he just being a good son man

[@vanessahenriquez1377]

Your welcome for 10k!

[@philipsoelter9971]

In the german version he just says concerning neferpitou: " I think the creature might be stronger than me" which indicates that he is not really sure instead of saying this creature is stronger than I am which let no room for speculation.

[@AndrewManook]

7:13 Once again, the databooks aren't canon.

[@Tupadre97]

I'd love to see your take on the new nen type charts that came out with the togashi exhibit last year

[@hyicrotai9801]

You can really see how much inspiration Kishimoto got from HxH for some of Narutos character traits. I like hxh more but saw Naruto 1st hope it gets finished. Unless it already is finished.

[@SeraphicViews]

W vid

[@Democracyphobia]

Well the fact that beyond had to set him up against one of the dark continent calamities to get rid of him proves that no Human could deal with him .

[@Vergil956]

Now imagine netero using love fruit

[@isaiahmartinez9942]

Good shit brah

[@StankeyWang]

At time i wonder what would have happened if netero would have just had a convo with meruem? could they have found peace between eachother? obviously gon would have still fought pitou but what would the grand out come have been if netero didnt die and meruem would have lived?

[@biscuit2595]

In my honest opinion meruem was still determined to become king, albeit with less evil intentions. However that's still in direct conflict to what Netero was fighting for. As well as that Meruem only admired Netero through combat, so if they were to fight he probably wouldn't be swayed to end his rule, considering he just met Netero. So I believe nothing would have changed.

[@rushpatriot2866]

Netero was in the right. He still wanted to enslave the humans even if he had a better understanding of empathy. So netero would probably be his right hand lap dog.

[@arfaouiaymen6510]

i love your video the most logical

[@theyoungknight.3119]

Also it was implied that he killed the squadron leaders without his hatsu so he wouldn’t even use the 99-handed Bhudasatsfa.

[@Eli-ip3jx]

Great vid

[@Hissingace110]

I usually agree with nearly every word of your HxH videos, but I know we've debated about Netero before, and I still completely disagree with the conclusions you're drawing from these things. In many cases, it seems like you're overlooking critical things that directly contradict your own arguments. For example: You seem completely convinced that Ging can't possibly be above Netero because Netero doesn't see Ging as the challenge he's sought all this time. Then you go on to show that Netero also had zero interest in fighting a Royal Guard, despite them being stated not once, not twice, but THREE times to be stronger than Netero by three different sources (Killua, Colt and Netero himself). That should make alarmingly clear that what Netero was actually seeking is a fight that's nearly unwinnable. I also find that you understate all of the things Netero says and instead focus exclusively on what Morel and Knov say, despite the fact that Morel and Knov are demonstrably bad sources. Both of them dramatically underestimate the guard, with Knov practically losing his mind after just making contact with the (arguably) weakest guard's en. And Morel boasting that you can't objectively compare the odds of victory between two nen users. Basically every HxH video you've made can only exist on the basis that Morel is wrong about this. Bisky's explanation with the chart makes far more sense, and allows for insurmountable gaps in raw power, which absolutely exist in this series, particularly with the guard. When Netero says "It's been half a century since I was the strongest among nen-users", there is truly zero reason to believe he's lying. It's obviously very clear that he was being modest when he said that he's only as strong as Morel and Knov, as we can literally see him being far above them, but what's important about that statement, regardless of modesty, is that Netero feels he's become far far weaker than his prime. For Netero to say that Ging is currently in the top 5 nen users alive, and also say multiple times how far removed he (Netero) is from his prime, it feels very disingenuous to say with any confidence that Netero is still above Ging. One final note on the topic of Ging vs Netero, is actually the direct comparisons to Gon. Gon is regularly compared to Ging, and Ging was seemingly able to predict years of Gon's life by simply expecting Gon to act as he would. So I don't think it's a stretch at all to imagine that Gon's talent is likely extremely similar to what Ging's was at the same age. And based on that, I don't think it's a stretch at all to imagine that Ging as an adult may be similar in strength to Gon as an adult. The same Gon that Pitou saw as being equal to or a threat to the King himself, before Gon even finished powering up. Pitou notably did not have that reaction to Netero at all, and it's also easy to see that Meruem was considerably more powerful than Netero. So for Gon to be seen as either directly equal to, or the most significant threat to the King, that places him securely above Netero in terms of raw power as an adult. If Ging is anywhere near that (which he very well may be), then it's very easy to imagine him being directly superior to Netero in raw power.

[@gustavopereira4924]

You just made me realise how much I underestimate Ging lmao

[@Zeno1781]

That’s good and all but ging could be like maha zoldyck Maha zoldyck was said to be the strongest of the zoldyck family Someone so strong that even prime netero was said to have survived. Survived as in some kakazu vs hashirama type shit. The contradiction here is, zeno said a prime killua which is roughly 25-40 year old killua would be the strongest zoldyck family member ever. Also correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t biscuit say gon and killua are the most talented individuals she ever seen?

[@Hissingace110]

@@Zeno1781 Lots to unpack there. Firstly, we know almost nothing at all about Maha. The Netero "survive" feat is something I see mentioned all the time, and it's completely worthless. We have no idea what "survive" even means, or any detail about the outcome of the fight. We also have no idea how close to "prime" Netero was, or Maha, for that matter. It literally only tells us that Netero didn't die. He still could have stomped in the fight, or that could have been a pre-prime Netero, or any number of other things. As for the Killua thing, I can only assume you're talking about Zeno's quote about Killua being the "most talented Zoldyck". And as for Bisky, I don't remember her saying that word for word, but I'm also quite sure that she only knows Ging by reputation. She hasn't met him, to determine his talent for herself, if that's what you mean. She says "Ging? Sure I know him, he's famous."

[@sireburris]

@@Hissingace110 lol the first thing he said was weird too talking about the guards being multiple times stronger than him and not wanting to fight them . Doesn’t make sense he had a mission to fight the king so ofc he wouldn’t try to fight them and waste energy weather he could win or not it wasn’t his mission so that was a bad example

[@rushpatriot2866]

Seeing how netero was slapping around the king and the fact that nobody else making comments about him actually know how strong he was in willingly to believe that this counter you give barely had any merit. You go on to say the same thing about morel and Nov being bad sources so why are you using bad sources? The argument doesn't hold when is foundation is built on hypocrisy.

[@mrducky6322]

I know this is unrelated but I have a question about nen usage If you use an item as a restriction say you set a restriction on you’re nen that you can only access you’re full power when wearing a certain article of clothing maybe a ring or a shirt or even a certain pair of socks how much stronger would you get or would this even work as a vow?

[@nicholasthompson6152]

I feel like it wouldn't be that simple that's restriction but not a conviction plus if you did what happens if that item were destroyed would u just lose a vast majority of your power?

[@mrducky6322]

@@nicholasthompson6152 It’d be pretty neat if you tripled in power due to wearing a ring though

[@Garvant_]

I would consider the sole condition of "I can only use this power against the spiders" a much more limiting restriction than the one you've given and Kurapikas master said that one wasn't very strong it only became a powerful condition once he added the death clause so I doubt it would go beyond a miniscule power boost

[@kacake]

Netero is confident despite the gap in strength with Chimera royal guards and Meruem, coz in the end, his rose bomb killed Meruem, at the expense of his life, it can still accomplish the mission, but that was an honorable death and finding a worthy opponent was wish fulfilled

[@elab4d140]

please do more hunter x hunter videos

[@MachiriReviews]

You know a character is broken when they leave the Dark Continent bored.

[@creeperbros-dg9jr]

Something I myself have theorized about ging's ability to copy nen abilities is that given how all nen abilities are technically just applications nen techniques he just copies whatever they did to achieve the same result, as opposed to other nen users limiting themselves to an ability that copies abilities

[@AndrewManook]

He just reverse engineers strike type abilities.

[@mcjcave18]

It'd be amazing if you do a video on Hisoka.

[@evronian1129]

I never realized that’s what the rose bomb was, I kinda always thought it was a deus ex machina, but considering the implications of it it’s probably my favorite part of hunter x hunter now. Sort of reminds me of the theme of Attack on Titan in a way

[@SomeGuy-ty7kr]

is there seriously anyone who thinks anyone in HxH surpasses Netero? (edit: other than Meruem, ofc)

[@rushpatriot2866]

Almost everything on DC. It also depends on what you mean by surpass. With nen beast that slaughter you if you kill their master there's plenty of people that can out strategize netero with the element of surpass to take the dub.

[@SomeGuy-ty7kr]

@@rushpatriot2866 fair, though I meant anime arc/humans. With the ants coming from the DC, it's pretty clear the stuff out there is above and beyond anything we saw so far.

[@rushpatriot2866]

@@SomeGuy-ty7kr yeah I gotchu netero is definitely the peak of humanity

[@based4560]

Currently there isnt anyone. But Gon in his prime (Adult Gon) may barely be able to surpass him, same with Killua.

[@based4560]

​@@rushpatriot2866 adult Gon is the peak. Not Netero.

[@Whattatwist]

Nah I think netero is strong, but I think with the mystery of hunterxhunter I don’t think he’s currently top 3 when he died, I’d probably have him at number 5, with mureum being 1 rn, I think 234 will be filled by mysterious charecters, plus at a single point gon was stronger then netero. If that was gon’s max potential, then gon is above netero, but he’s definitely top game, we just don’t know who’s above him yet. I don’t believe netero saw pitou as below him tho, I think that he knew himself he was the only one who could kill mereum even at the price of his own life, cuz really really, he couldn’t even hurt meruem without busting a kamakazi and meruem would’ve still lived if it wasn’t for the poison, he couldn’t waste time getting hurt or injured from the royal guard and having too kill meruem was his priority.

[@hotdogcheese1975]

remember that Netero is not a Emiter nor Specialist.. He was an Enhancer type.. Saying that Zero Hand was his ultimate and most powerful attack is BS.. ENCHANCER.. imagine Uvogin, but x10..

[@timefazer-fv9bw]

I think that he would have beat meruem if meruem wasnt so smart because without meruems intellect he couldn't have figured out neteros attack pattern.

[@Zeno1781]

But he wouldn’t have been strong enough to do enough damage So it’s basically a draw Also meruem wasn’t going for the kill instantly

[@SomeGuy-ty7kr]

Yeah... the only reason Netero survived more than two seconds is because Meruem wanted to know what his name was. In that entire fight, Meruem was holding back so he wouldn't accidentally kill Netero.

[@maxdrags3115]

@@Zeno1781 Netero literally started to give Mereum bruising. He would have ended up winning. It would take a while, but still.

[@maxdrags3115]

@@SomeGuy-ty7kr He literally wasn't holding back. NOTHING shows that he was holding back.

[@Zeno1781]

@@maxdrags3115 meruem wasn’t going for the kill instantly

[@WorseintentionsWorseIntention]

Do adult gon vs Netero rn , you’ve been entrusted with the scaling

[@jvr6809]

Adult Gon low diffs

[@anwvererere]

gj

[@justinrodriguez3916]

Very. End of video

[@jpraise6771]

God loves you all! Never forget that

[@blitz7488]

I want a scaling so i can see if the yamamoto genryuusai vs isaac netero isnt completely one sided

[@Ebwankanobi]

ima disagree with the beyond netero part, in terms of physical stretgth yea netero is dominant, but with nen ability ima say beyond is going to be seen to hve better and moresuited capabilities...

[@JayJay-xv8ht]

Who do you think would win Ging or Netero? Also, I think Ging might be able to take on Netero. But, that one is a hard one. Ging and Nerero both have been to that island you talked about and made it out alive. Ging is very strong, so strong that he was not written into the kimera ant era. Possibly because he was too strong for them. Knowing that ging has been to the island that the ants came from and he made it out alive. Ging might have been too strong for that arc. Ging vs Netero is a good fight. I feel like Ging might be as strong as old Netero. With it being a 50 50 on who I feel is stronger. Ging might win, but I am not too sure.

[@TheLastCrow5150]

It's was only assumed that Ging had been to the Dark Continent wasn't it? I imagine Hing is going to have a bloodline extremely close to humans of the dark continent (because of Don Freecs) and has tapped into a power on a whole other level than nen. Or his nen type will have never been seen before. It's assumed the Kurta are from the DC and Kurapika was able to kill Uvo 6 months after learning nen. That's insane

[@vicdansanch]

Netero went to the dark continent and said it was boring. Ging is not touching one hair of Netero lmao

[@thewakandankingtchaka5331]

Netero went to the Dark continent twice, just to make sure lmao - reminds me of a LuBu quote “bring me a worth challenge!”

[@ItsUzele]

I almost wrote a hate comment when I saw dub

[@tutusalo]

the truth is Netero can not defeat any of the royal guard. He knew for sure that defeating king is the priority as it can leave royal guards order less. From start he knew it was a suicide mission and chances of winning are slim to nothing even with rose in his arsenal but thanks to Komugi here because of her the mission was a success, else I don't see any probability of hunters winning at all.

[@reincarnatedtobuildaharem]

I know he's strong but isn't all his attacks except the Zero Hand just fast glorified slaps?

[@lucario2able]

Omfg ok, I'll watch Hunter X Hunter again.

[@carnivalt1449]

Netero did admit that ging was stronger than him. He states that its been more than half a century since he was a top 5 nen user. This implies that the top 5 nen users are more powerful than netero. Bisky said that netero himself puts ging in the top 5 nen users. Ging most likely would mop the floor woth netero

[@ashtoncarter8298]

It’s more karate master it also a similar story

[@thermophile1695]

Bro built the Hunter Association to find someone who could make him get serious and never succeeded. People actually think he's Knov level?

[@boozados]

He’s the 12th chairman or something I think so he’s more just a successor

[@fisr3]

Netero what the fuck

[@stack4229]

whats with the new pfp

[@honkler1443]

I will say that netero can most likely beat half the cast at the same time with no dif at all

[@dimensionvisitor7689]

the whole netero ignores pitou to challenge meruem point is kinda pointless, it's just a common thing in japanese fictions where people who are actively looking for a challenging fight will ignore the No2 and goes for the No1 regardless how strong No2 is, one of the example i can think of on the top of my head is both vegeta and goku ignores toppo and tries to challenge jiren despite toppo being pretty evenly matched with them (potentially even stronger than them) and would be a better fight for them

[@Professor_Fiction]

It was more so part of the narrative I was trying to construct with Netero. If Netero genuinely thought Pitou was an interesting opponent, he would’ve fought them before Meruem was born

[@dimensionvisitor7689]

@@Professor_Fiction it could also be him simply don't want to fight someone else beside the No1 and he want all the time to prepare for that fight instead of wasting time healing from injuries or potentially killed by the No2-4

[@Professor_Fiction]

Which would not make sense at the time that Meruem was not born yet

[@dimensionvisitor7689]

@@Professor_Fiction but he knows meruem would be born, he even knows how long it’s gonna take, and most importantly, he knows it’s going to be even stronger than pitou

[@Zeno1781]

The thing is Netero almost dies to maha zoldyck They quite literally hype him up for surviving an encounter with maha without losing a limb.

[@existentialnihil]

I'm not saying I disagree but can you tell me generally where you saw that? If it's true than it could be that the Zoldycks power levels are completely or partially unknown to even chimera ants and hunters. That's really interesting to think about since they are assassins in the end of the day so them being that powerful just means Killua is gonna be busted OP when he gets to prime

[@Zeno1781]

@@existentialnihil zeno no the entire zoldyck family respect netero and would basically do anything as long as it isn’t fighting meruem because they respect him They respect him because he was the only one who survived an encounter with maha zoldyck Though again this contradicts itself as zeno implied a prime killua would be the strongest of the zoldyck family as his potential is ridiculously high

[@existentialnihil]

​@@Zeno1781 Thanks for enlightening me I didn't know Maha was so feared, I personally thought Zeno was the big guy in the Zoldyck's lmao but that's obviously not true knowing this

[@Zeno1781]

@@existentialnihil yea. Maha is a very old man

[@FLCLimaxxx]

the quote was netero is the only man to survive fighting him. nothing implied about losing or even getting hurt.

[@hanyo5789]

cheap bombs strongest in the verse meruem becomes cheap bomb level after rose bomb but not poison level so hax work on him if not based on nen or that nen is condition based enough to kill people

[@mrducky..]

Wouldn’t the Pitou statement about her being ‘the most formidable opponent Gon and Killua have faced’ also apply to Netero though? Since they kinda fought him Or is it implying that Pitou is only above a one armed one legged No nen Netero? Which is a kinda funny thought Also I wonder if the data book stats take nen enhancement into account when judging physical strength I know Pitou would still probably be stronger but it’s just an interesting question

[@hassanhassan-os5oq]

They fought a Netero who barley tried

[@jameslove3860]

That "Seth" didn't age well

[@tjadams98]

One Important thing to note, is that netero never said he himself was in the top 5. And I may be wrong but it’s never stated that he is in the top 5 by anyone else or the narrator either. So ging isn’t necessarily below netero (especially old netero). This is purely headcanon but I honestly think we have only seen 2 maybe 3 of the top 5 nen users, and none of them have showed their abilities. (Ging being the only one confirmed).

[@kc_h7h]

Netero is like the gandalf of this world. He knows everybody, even their parents and grandparents. But the only difference is that netero is pretty villainous. He doesnt care about humans or morals. He just wants to fight the most powerfull people. You will be your true self when you're about to die. Well, right before netero was about to die he shamed himself for turning into a humble and respectfull person. He despised himself for letting people bow for him after he beat them. He thinks he turned soft. Like the narrator said, he is a monster. But since he was the strongest human for a long period of time that monster in him went silent. Untill he met meruem, he remembered who he truly was.

[@BiggieChungulus]

This video made me understand a lot but now I'm questioning how meruem's durability makes any lick of sense

[@maxdrags3115]

Because he has the most amount of nen, which on a basic level, buffs his durability. And that's on TOP of the fact that he was born insanely strong, fast, and durable as the Chimera Ant King.

[@Planetdestroyer.138]

Exoskeleton is strong as fck

[@systemfox6131]

Damn this video really has less than a thousand views

[@based4560]

What about now?

[@Sir.M]

M

[@ehudezra4610]

Yeah Netero being the strongest hunter has been pretty consistent through statements and portrayal especially in the Chimera ants arc He's far stronger than characters like Chrollo or Hisoka and around probably weaker than the royal guards but still can defeat them as he doesn't even bothered to fight them bc he wants an unbeatable opponent which only Meruem is. Fights in Hunter X Hunter aren't Dragon Ball fights that based on power alone or even Bleach fights that based on power and hax... they're based on strategy planning quick thinking etc not just abilities resolve and how incredible someone's aura is So yeah i see Netero beating the guards in 1v1 but they're more powerful than him in terms of aura physical strength speed(Netero's ability though faster) and durability There are also statements i forgot that he's the strongest hunter in the data book which kinda contradicts Kite's statement about Ging being the greatest/strongest And the Zodiacs actually shown fear of Kurapika who's weaker against them than what he is vs the Spiders based on this vow he made, not just getting worse scores than Illumi in Hisoka's strength test and he doesn't even want to fight Illumi...only Ging that arc which can imply Ging is stronger than the other Zodiacs(in my opinion it's Ging and Pariston who are the strongest Zodiacs at the time) So if we're ranking based on who wins a battle prime Netero probably is the strongest besides Meruem bc of all the other factors taken to account in Hunter X Hunter battles...but if it's based on Aura and physical stats he's top 6 below the guards Adult Gon and Meruem...i am iffy on Beyond idk if in Hunter X Hunter name's meaning have significance like in Boruto/Naruto or Fate. Netero saying he's Morel's level is just him being a troll which he is in character I don't think the same applies to Pitou bc he assessed Pitou's en so the context of the statement is totally different.

[@kc_h7h]

No netero himself said that he was the strongest hunter at some point in time. (Probably his prime) but he became old and some people surpassed him obviously. So there's no contradiction

[@izzymosley1970]

Wasn't it stated that gyro is the strongest nen user do you think he's stronger than netero?

[@madhukhanal9860]

He was never stated to be the strongest it was stated he had the greatest drive not power

[@existentialnihil]

I don't think it was ever stated directly but lets say that's true and Gyro is the strongest nen user. That still doesn't mean he is the strongest "fighter" in the show, nen has been shown to give a massive advantage in power but only to a certain extent as to ENHANCE normal martial arts and fighting techniques. Netero being both a great nen user and probably the BEST martial artist alive makes him nearly unbeatable to anyone except those.... things....

[@JayJay-xv8ht]

A lot of contradictions was shown and stated. With one of them being pitou as having all 5 on all stats and with pitou being stated by Netero himself as being stronger then him. But, that also gets contracted when Mereum shows up with as shown him stating that Mereum is a unstoppable opponent. With Mereum even not dying from the bomb explosion. Although, Netero did win later on by Mereum dying from the poison caused from the explosion. Mereum did survive after the explosion and was still able to fight Gon and the rest of them. So, in other words. Netero killed himself by blowing himself up. Instead of trying to fully fight Mereum. Instead he killed himself. But, with Netero killing himself and thus detonating and exploding his own bomb. The bomb defeated Mereum. But, Mereum did not die from the explosion. But, Netero did kill Mereum. By Mereum dying from the poison from the Bomb rather then dying from the explosion itself. However, Netero did not die from Mereum. But, he was resorted to using the bomb and killing himself. Rather then fighting Mereum and being defeated by him or possibly Netero fighting and winning. But, the whole reason Netero did the bomb was as a last resort thinking he could not win a further fight. So, Mereum would have more then likely won the fight with a slight possibility of Netero winning had he not blown himself up. However, with all that said. Netero did defeat Mereum. But, not in a actual fight but rather with him killing himself and thus exploding himself rather then finishing the fight with Mereum. However, Gon was able to turn himself into Adult Gon in his fight with Pitou. He was able to easily kill Pitou when he turned into Adult Gon. To put it this way. Adult Gon beat Pitou faster then Netero fought Mereum. With Pitou even stating that Adult Gon could rivel the King. Which she is referring to Mereum of course. Meaning in a fight. Adult Gon can beat Mereum. Something Netero was only able to do by killing himself and blowing himself up. Not Netero fighting Mereum and winning by fighting. Thus, adult Gon that fought Pitou without experience as Adult Gon would beat Mereum. Which adult Gon would also beat Netero. Especially since Pitou said Adult Gon could take on Mereum. Which Netero was not able to beat Mereum in a fight. Netero was only able to beat Mereum by using the bomb. So, thus Adult Gon that fought Pitou would beat Netero and would beat Mereum. However, the Adult Gon that fought Pitou would not beat Prime Netero. The only one that could beat Prime Netero is Adult Gon with experience with Adult Gon. Not a Adult Gon with not so much experience that fought Pitou. However, a experience adult Gon would beat prime Netero. Prime Netero would beat Mereum. But, adult Gon with experience would defeat Prime Netero.

[@jupitertank7133]

What a pleasure to read this Monstrosity!

[@Kris-kr4jx]

could you further explain

[@solcreed10]

How come you didn't mention Maha zoldic.

[@FLCLimaxxx]

it doesn't mean much. it's like saying Chrollo is the onyl man to fight Silva and live(which so far as we know is correct because he lived through 2 fights and we don't see anyone else fight silva and live). lmao. chrollo is clearly more powerful than silva though.

[@AndrewManook]

Because no such character exists.

[@AndrewManook]

@@FLCLimaxxx It's the other way around, Chrollo couldn't kill Silva, implying that Silva is stronger

[@TheTinMan2077]

Prime Netero and Adult Gon would beat Meruem mid-hard diff, though post rose Meruem remains till this day the strongest being in HxH universe.

[@AndrewManook]

We already saw Prime Netero fight Meruem, also Meruem vs Adult Gon could go either way though Meruem has way higher durability and intelligence.

[@edrickhuge4637]

Netero is literally talking shit. He is returning to his prime with each fight and hence the scrne where his Nen scares Killua. He is getting ready to fight the opponent he always wants to and is getting close to his prime.

[@cro0511]

I agree with almost everything except for the thing about beyond netero. I don't want to say that it is certain that he is as strong as prime netero, although netero says so, since he tends to underestimate his strength. but there is not enough information to give an answer, I don't think the argument that beyond obeys netero is strong enough, it can obey him for many reasons, not only because netero is strong than him. Afterwards, I'm surprised you didn't make even a small mention of maha zoldick and her battle with netero

[@AndrewManook]

Beyond isn't the type of guy to listen to anyone, he also is quite forceful, using force if necessary, the only way Netero could have convinced him is if he was actually stronger, otherwise Beyond would just bulldoze through him. Also there is no one called "Maha" in the manga and there never was a battle

[@stack4229]

adult gon and Royal Guard still win

[@Professor_Fiction]

Netero beating the Royal guard bruh

[@stack4229]

@@Professor_Fiction poufs noodle arms are too strong im afraid

[@stack4229]

@@Professor_Fiction ive been pinged by this same message6 times after ive replied to it wtf

[@ghostlypitou2746]

@@Professor_Fiction pitou slams netero😂

[@ghostlypitou2746]

You ain’t miss🙏🏾

[@mujigant]

"Copywrite" lol

[@ghostlypitou2746]

16:29 pitous Terpsichora wasn’t active yet😭😂 come on mane pitou beats that old nigga up

[@ghostlypitou2746]

It’s stated that before she was able to get it fully active (since it takes 0.1 seconds) netero slapped her away. Meaning she still was not at full battle capacity 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@ghostlypitou2746]

16:35 “everything took place in the time BETWEEN the activation of pitous ability and it’s attack” this means: pitou actives -> netero attacks -> pitous attack. Nigga making me come out of retirement for this😭

[@AngelxVillian]

Pfff? Netero solos her

[@SatorisYT]

@@ghostlypitou2746 You said it yourself: Pitou's ability activates, but before she can attack, she gets smacked away. “everything took place in the time between the activation of Pitou's ability and it’s attack”. It's already activated, it's just not fast enough to attack before Netero attacks. It just proves that Netero > full power Pitou in speed.

[@ghostlypitou2746]

@@SatorisYT no one said he ain’t faster dumb ass can you read? I’m addressing him saying he blitzed an amp pitou. Her ability wasn’t active yet therefor she wasn’t amped. It’s stated netero is faster than Meruem stupid it isn’t hard to prove netero is one of the fastest stupid. It’s the fact he wouldn’t be able to damage pitou or any of the Royal ants before running out of nen and turning to a vegetable dummy. Learn to read and comprehend before ever speaking to me again. Stupid.

[@flairnovacast5360]

Netero wasn’t weak but he wasn’t as strong as we thought he’d be I mean yes he hade a very good technique and in his prime I could see him taking down the Ants easily but as a master hunter he was pretty underwhelming

[@Professor_Fiction]

Bruh he’s literally the strongest human Nen user in the series we’ve seen so far

[@IanSlusser]

Fake