How the Europeans fought the Mongols - Medieval History DOCUMENTARY

[@KingsandGenerals]

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[@abdulpipz2038]

Do a video about osman l and his early battles

[@abdulpipz2038]

@ThyPeasantSlayer lost against who?

[@abdulpipz2038]

@ThyPeasantSlayer osman 1 destroyed all his enemies

[@dushyantyadav1099]

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[@Trever101]

Code POG 😭😭

[@jonathanowen9917]

The fact that 65 year-old Carpini went all the way to Karakoum to learn of the Mongols, traveled all the way home, wrote a report on how to successfully defeat the Mongols and the response from the European leaders was “Cool read but nah I’m good” is so real life.

[@Darksky1001able]

@@Terminator47. My Mamluk brothers had to beat them back time and again. The Indians were the ones to truly beat them in open field battle.

[@tanner1111]

@@Darksky1001able And now you all speak English so how did them wars really turn out for you?

[@simbolicdunksman1746]

@tanner The insecurity is REAL 😬

[@tanner1111]

@@simbolicdunksman1746 Yeah sure, im from a tiny little island nation on the edge of Europe that created the modern world but im insecure, sure pal.

[@Doomseer]

@@tanner1111 Bro yes Europeans created the modern world but our ancestors didn't do it alone considering many different races aided in it's construction and fought and died in it's defense. We can both appreciate the amazing achievements of our ancestors while also recognizing all the other races who aided them throughout history in the making of the western world..

[@Liquidsback]

Spam watchtowers/keeps, invest in monks, trash units like hussars and halberdiers are a good investment, then challenge them on water maps.

[@BumIndividual]

Rip bozo ahh Mongols 💀💀

[@Tragantar1310]

@Moon Bean too slow, they get outmanouvered by mangudai.

[@mr.beanladen1469]

I missed playing AoE

[@mackycabangon8945]

which european civs did this strat work best with?

[@MrHerrkrabba]

@@SirMattomaton thrash as in no gold cost, not bad per se

[@RexAndAllen]

For those wondering how King Béla IV survived after the Battle of Mohi, he survived off an island off Croatia to ride out the Mongol follow up raids.

[@georgethompson1460]

Didn't the mongols take massive casualties in Mohi? I remember reading up on it and apparently it was a close call for the Mongols. In the end it was the Chinese catapults that one the day rather than Mongol horse archers.

[@RexAndAllen]

@george thompson they did because the mangudai got ambushed in the beginning by the crossbowmen and many of Batu's keshigg (keshik) bodyguards were killed by heavy knights. If the Austrian contingent didn't leave and the Cuman rebellion didn't occur, Batu's expedition would have ended much differently.

[@Mr.Titrator]

@@Cyricist001 Hey! I saw Klis Fortress ruins on my way from the Split air port. That place looks like it was pretty cool.

[@huuchinduu]

Kings Landing in GOT , right?

[@ihatemotionblur_3255]

@@georgethompson1460 not as many as the europeans

[@JustinQuilling]

Very fascinating. I live in Kraków, Poland and it is so bizarre to know the Mongols invaded and sacked this city twice!

[@PobortzaPl]

Every day at noon a short tune is being played from a tower of Mariacki Church That tune is cut short on a single note. What has it to do with Mongols? Well, legend says this tune was played but a city watchman who had noticed Mongol raiding party. That tune was cut short when he was killed with an arrow to his neck.

[@st3pp3nw0lf86]

@@PobortzaPl you'd think he'd know that. Expats are adorable.

[@PobortzaPl]

@@st3pp3nw0lf86 Immigrants are great, especially when they turn into ambassadors of the country they moved into

[@JustinQuilling]

@@st3pp3nw0lf86 Of course I know that.

[@peterjanossy7033]

@@PobortzaPl No, the Noon bell across related to the 1456 victory of John Hunyadi over the Turks: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Belgrade_(1456)#Noon_Bell Pope Callixtus III ordered the bells of every European church to be rung every day at noon, as a call for believers to pray for the defenders of the city.[12][13] The practice of the noon bell is traditionally attributed to the international commemoration of the victory at Belgrade and to the order of Pope Callixtus III, since in many countries (like England and the Spanish Kingdoms) news of the victory arrived before the order, and the ringing of the church bells at noon was thus transformed into a commemoration of the victory.[14][15][16] The Pope didn't withdraw the order, and Catholic and the older Protestant churches still ring the noon bell to this day.[13][15][16][17] This custom still exists also among Protestant and Orthodox congregations. In the history of the University of Oxford, the victory was welcomed with the ringing of bells and great celebrations in England. Hunyadi sent a special courier, Erasmus Fullar, among others to Oxford with the news of the victory.[18]

[@bangscutter]

9:33 Carpini's suggestion for united defence against the Mongols is remarkably like a "Medieval NATO".

[@italianspaghett4359]

yeah, his concepts were centuries ahead of his time. maybe that's why almost everyone ignored them

[@Frozenmenss1]

The First Crusade was maybe the First "Medieval NATO" in the 11th century.

[@gradipadia9800]

What about the Holy League?

[@ziggytheassassin5835]

Thats kind of what the Catholic church was at that time.

[@adamseidel9780]

I’m always massively impressed by anybody who went in search of data and studied the facts in such a modern way in the pre modern eras.

[@johnsteiner3417]

Cappini: This is how you beat the Mongols." European lords: "I'm not paying for that." also European lords: *pays more for losses and for tribute*

[@evanulven8249]

Pretty typical for political "leaders" up to and including the current day. Ignore the problem, let the people shoulder the bill, slap them down when they start demanding answers and action, say it was gods will.

[@TheChimples]

@@evanulven8249 yeah exactly. the old "we tried nothing and we're all out of ideas"

[@kunnu6752]

lmao

[@TheChimples]

@Swarmpope there's a reason few people listened to it. Especially top level generals. The Mongols weren't serious about invading or occupying. They were little more than thieves and burglars at that point. The correct way to respond to thieves and burglars is to upgrade your defense and security. Hence walls, fortifications, castles and so on worked pretty good. That's why entire cities in Eastern Europe started to turn into completely walled up fortifications. To keep out the bandits and criminals.

[@katrinegadegaard1241]

@Swarmpope Well he did come up with ideas on how to beat them in the field as well. Maybe it could have saved them a substantial amount of pillaging. Or maybe it would have been a complete disaster, who knows.

[@JonBrownSherman]

09:47 This is probably the BEST advice for fighting the Mongols that anyone can get, hands down.

[@guilhermebraga9773]

Carpini is such a underestimated hero. What he did was amazing. They should make a film or series about this

[@VSM101]

But the europeans lost lol

[@marumi808]

​@@VSM101 No "Europe" didn't lose. Mongols in fact carefully stayed away from going any further than East Europe. They mostly resorted to pillaging and raiding and stealing. Basically just trying to gain ground in Eastern Europe was costly to them and if they went any further West they would have met much stronger enemies and fortified land.

[@donniepinns1472]

@@marumi808 The main problem to them wouldn't be stronger enemy but rather you have to consider at that point, the Mongol Empire was too big and thus too stretched, making administration and military logistics very difficult, cuz one fundamental thing you gotta understand that no matter how strong an army is, they're still humans, and so the further they travel, the costlier it becomes in terms of time and energy, hence a rapidly increasing demand for food and arms transportation as well as reinforcements.

[@GermanEistee2000]

@@donniepinns1472 I think that this is definitely an important factor but another important factor is that the Europeans had a ton of fortifications, castles, mountains etc. Can one imagine the Mongols fighting and winning on an open plain, like Hungary? Yeah, sure. Can one imagine the Mongols fighting in the Alps or similar difficult terrain? Not really. Can one imagine the Mongols sieging big European castles? Also pretty unlikely, at least very costly and the Mongolian population was really low, they had to conserve their manpower and exploit their tactical advantage.

[@donniepinns1472]

@@GermanEistee2000 You're right. Also, as I see it, fortifications shouldn't be too big of a problem for the Mongols, but rather, the sole factor that's the true pain in the ass for the Mongols is "difficult terrains", notably mountainous and forest-thick areas. I say this because, some people may overlook one point, that is the Mongol Empire wasn't just good at hit-and-run tactics, but they were nonetheless highly efficient in siege warfare as well. So, overall, they were well-operational in open plains, not too rugged geography. Take for example, the Dai Viet (Vietnam today) beat the Mongols convincingly 3 times with their utilising their natural rough terrains, which are lots of mountainous areas along with a dense coverage of tropical forests. The little Dai Viet country, though they did almost lose in the first Mongol invasion, also had excellent tactics and strategy that they combined Scorched Earth and Guerilla tactics to cause tremendous confusion and psychological distress for the Mongols, then they aimed at the enemy's food supplies, cutting them off for good, causing the enemy to starve slowly. All of that weakened and demoralized the Mongols greatly, allowing the little Dai Viet to launch devastating counter offenses which led to those 3 humiliating defeats for the Mongols.

[@RexAndAllen]

Batu Khan sent a message to Frederick II of the Holy Roman Empire who was solidifying his grip on Sicily asking for his submission. He trolled him in response saying "he would gladly be his falconer". At the same time, Frederick II stocked up on crossbows and provisioned his castles.

[@maximkislicyn2297]

Im Batu Khaaaaaan

[@thecoffeemaker7444]

you mean ambatukam? the great black mongol lord?

[@mikemodugno5879]

Great video! I would love to see more about Hungary, Nogai, the Cumans, and the Horde. In fact, could we see a video about what happened to the Cumans (there is, after all, a region called Cumania in the Kingdom of Hungary) in both the Christian and Islamic worlds? You guys do such a fantastic job.

[@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory]

There was a previous video I wrote on this channel focusing on Nogai's life and the invasions of Hungary and Poland after 1241. There's a few bits that are a little out of date now but it's still a serviceable overview. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGqcfIqnfMufY9k

[@Slashplite]

there should be dedicated video for Cumans, Kipchaks and Volga Bulgaria

[@Cloud-dq1mr]

This video is about those very subjects, there are lots of other interesting topics to cover before you instantly ask for more of the same :)

[@k.ztomigrad8697]

A part of the cumans took refuge in Hungarian kingdom and converted to Christianity, after some time they went over the mountains and made themself as the nobility over the region of Wallachia, during the wars with the Ottoman most of them were exterminated or became peasants, a few of them went to the German lands and joined various noble houses there.

[@edenender]

My ancestors were Nogay horsemen. Proud of my ancestors.

[@BattleHistories]

Another great video and also about a part of Europe that isn't often covered as much. Keep up the great work!

[@BattleHistories]

@@Xelief The way we perceive history doesn't mean it can't be covered or talked about. All aspects of history can be learned from in my opinion

[@jhonjhon3715]

@@Xelief a small country like Hungary defeating the Mongols is embarrassing? Please

[@thalmoragent9344]

@@SithStudy To be fair, often times the Mongols didn't need too... they had their way with most all the walled cities they ran across in Asia and the Middle East

[@georgethompson1460]

@@thalmoragent9344 castles are strategically different in that they allow for a defense in depth, where the mobile element of neighbouring castles (knights) can harass besiegers attacking a single castle.

[@thalmoragent9344]

@@georgethompson1460 True, but a lot of the premise of a walled defense is similar, albeit of course the Castles were made with that defense in mind

[@shehansenanayaka3046]

This mongol series is one of the very best. We always appreciate your hard work and dedication towards these videos. A huge fan of you from Sri Lanka ❤️🇱🇰.

[@smarthungyo]

One of the most dominant and the largest land empire and I find it surprising that other history channels hardly covers it. It will be great if more channels starts covering more about Mongols, Chinese, egyptians and Indians.

[@kompatybilijny9348]

It's because English sources are extremely, EXTREMELY hermetic and self centered, so when anyone attempts to make such a video they can not even find sources.

[@tomasgogashvily5350]

@@kompatybilijny9348 Wow. Really... All that source comes from Wiki unless you believe that Wikipedia is an evil Capitalist Liberal Gay Plot of Human Alien Lizards to install chips into your brain and use them to buy consumer products, so you could die at 100 years old, taking further a 100 pills a day to make money off you.

[@ketzer4]

There's a Chanel called Khan's Den, he makes videos about Steppe people, mostly about Turkic culture but also Mongols and other nations from the steppe and empires that had interacted with them like China, Korea and European/byzantine empire. If you are interested in a part of history that isn't covered at all in the west, maybe that chanel provides something new und interesting for you.

[@0Turbox]

Most of this land was steppe or desert.

[@smarthungyo]

@@0Turbox you have such a skewed view. No western powers comes close to The Mongols when it comes to explosive power. Those horse archers from the steppe decimated middle east and cut their way into Eastern Europe.

[@toddchavez8274]

Caroline is the best argument against time travel to tell ancient people how to beat their foes. They didn’t listen even to their contemporaries.

[@viclorenzo5016]

Carpini: *Writes the most detailed and comprehensive strategy for battling the Mongols* European leaders: *Ignore it*

[@abelsoo5465]

European leaders are either fighting against each other or crusading in the Middle East or North Africa.

[@viclorenzo5016]

@@abelsoo5465 Yep, that too.

[@Heisen2420]

Not that surprising considering during this time, France and England were at war for years, The Pope & the Holy Roman Emperor still don't like each other, and worse of all the fourth crusade basically killed any unity between western & eastern Christianity. So they are very lucky that the Khan drink himself to death or else he would of conquering all the way to Spain, though probably not England since they rarely won naval battles.

[@riccardocirielli]

Europeans: *succed anyway*

[@viclorenzo5016]

@@Heisen2420 Yep, very lucky.

[@kosa9662]

Uh, Teutonic Knights represented as knights from Poland or Duchy of Lithuania, this is quite a good example of miss-information

[@Jakalbow]

I doubt that was intentional but I was a little disappointed that their contribution wasn’t mentioned in spite of them being used in the thumbnail.

[@Mankorra_Gomorrah]

Carpini was literally the OG commander Shepard.

[@Talyrion]

Though if we push the analogy, this would have made for a wild twist in Mass Effect. Basically, you'd have the Council ignore Shepard - as is tradition - and then... the Reapers show up and get defeated by the Batarians, or something. "Oh. So they were real, huh. Well, I guess the problem's solved anyway."

[@Jakalbow]

Glad I wasn’t the only one that saw the similarity.

[@perrytran9504]

"Ah yes, 'Tartars' - the immortal race of sentient nomads allegedly waiting in the East. We have dismissed that claim."

[@mattbravo7604]

I wish i could like this twice ​@@perrytran9504

[@gordonchard6243]

The monk reminds me of Robert baratheon telling cersei Lannister what would happen if they simply hid in their castles whilst the dothraki ruined the kingdoms.

[@jimmythe-gent]

George is a student of history, and the dothraki are obviously based on the Mongols.

[@ПетърКолев-л4о]

@@jimmythe-gent Indeed he is but the Dothraki are predominantly a representation of the Scythians and other Turkic steppe warriors. The Jogos Nhai and their wars with Yi Ti are however reminiscent of Imperial China vs the Mongols.

[@jimmythe-gent]

@@ПетърКолев-л4о Ah, interesting. I kind of forget, but did the dothraki primarily use horse archers when they fought? I know they used the arakh/khopesh, but I forget about that

[@bighands69]

@@jimmythe-gent They are partly based on the Mongols but the reality was that the Mongols were no threat to Europe. The problem with the Dothraki is that they are fantasy and impossible to know exactly what they could and could not do.

[@TotilaTheGoth]

Not many people mention that Mongols had a conflict with Serbia. During the first raids they plundered Serbia, but later during the rule of Saint King Milutin he defeated their units, who probably weren't numerous like in other campaigns and more or less acted as mercenaries or allies for their vassals. But he defended the country nonetheless and avoided destruction when he sent his maybe illegitimate son who would become king in the future as a hostage. I also think that some Cumans fled to Serbia as well. There are traces of them in the names of some villages. So, all in all. Thanks for mentioning that minor event.

[@danielzhang1916]

I wouldn't be surprised, most Cumans fled to Hungary, the Bulgarian Empire, and the Byzantine Empire

[@briantuk3000]

can you provide examples of those names?

[@TotilaTheGoth]

@@briantuk3000 Kumanica village, as well as a monastery. You have Okanović surname which I read somewhere that it was of Cuman origin(Okan). I remember there were a few more villages but I can't remember the names now. However, most of those Cumans who moved to Serbia, were settled in the territory of present day North Macedonia since back in those times it was ruled by the Serbs. Town of Kumanovo is the best example of that. But there are some other minor as well.

[@TotilaTheGoth]

@@briantuk3000 But the Cuman influence in medieval Serbia was nowhere near as close or significant as was in medieval Hungary or Bulgaria who even had Cuman dynasties ruling them.

[@ministarstvoistine3109]

The Mongols are Serbs 🤣🤣

[@iliasmastoris529]

A favourite tactic of Byzantines during their low point against the Arabs (AD 600-800), was to ambush the booty-laden retiring invaders. And yes, the Byzantines also employed mounted armoured lancers with rear rank unarmoured archers, something they learnt from the Huns and other steppe people's

[@georgethompson1460]

European armies often used mounted crossbowmen in a ratio of 1-4 with their knights to screen against opposing cav.

[@senadneslan1563]

good tatcic for no exsit 🤣😂

[@rayzas4885]

@@Terminator47. they have turkic blood but that's not the same as being turkish. Turks are just another Turkic ethnic group sadly for you nationalist

[@basedchad6035]

Is it really the only way to counter horse archers with.... horse archers? Common that cant be it.

[@bighands69]

Byzantium was a failed culture.

[@heliosdelsol]

@ 12 mins: Wow, I'm really impressed! That was some really good, detailed, practical and tactical advise he gave! I would feel much more confident going up against the extremely scary Mongols after having read this set of instructions!

[@Ifraneljadida]

Channels such as K&Gs, has greatly expanded my knowledge of history. This video alone is jam packed with understanding the time period. I suppose to know history is to know war. Well done K&G as always

[@wd2862]

the Teutonic Knights never fought with the Mongols, Polish knights fought with them. Don't fake history.

[@Ifraneljadida]

@@wd2862 I have no idea about any of that.

[@willisread6624]

Carpini was a good man, who wanted to save lives and defend Europe from those whom he saw as evil invaders. He saw the devastation the Mongols brought and heard firsthand accounts from those who survived, and wrote down everything he could think of into a practical Guidebook to preserve life and stand against the Horde. Yet, like most good men, Greed, Selfishness and the Disunity among the rulers of his day ruined and squandered his ideas. So saddening to see, and even more saddening how unsurprising such a result was. All in all, amazing Video as always K&G!

[@lerneanlion]

It's been a while since I saw a video about the Mongols on this channel! Thank you for bringing the subjects related to Mongols back!

[@CptFordo-jz1wx]

Thanks for the video I'm currently fighting the Mongols in medieval 2 total war so this is great to go along with that.

[@mitchellbrough1615]

Spam armor upgraded mailed knights

[@locatemarbles]

European stone castles, more or less social and ethnic peace, scorched earth strategy and guerrilla warfare. This is how Europeans defeated the Mongols. Actually even the 1242 Mongol invasion was a resounding defeat. They set out to conquer Europe and only managed to get Bulgaria as a vassal.

[@peterjanossy7033]

@Swarmpope Sorry but territory of contemporary France was not bigger than Hungary and its dependencies.

[@locatemarbles]

@Swarmpope, re-read what I wrote. All of the above are necessary, you can't pick and choose. The chinese walls were inferior to the European castles ,but that was not the reason they lost. Social and ethnic peace, scorched earth strategy and guerrilla warfare are needed too. The Koreans came close to what the Europeans did. They eventually lost to the Mongols because their country is isolated and facing starvation. The people themselves (although up to this point victorious against the Mongols) demanded from the Korean leadership to surrender.

[@Hungabrigoo]

@Frontline Report Bruh, they concuered CHINA. Also the HRE was not that strong to begin with.

[@omarshakkur9551]

Subutai with his 20k was hanging around however, whenever he wants, 6 european kingdoms piecemeal, seriously bro? From Russia to Vienna fake retreat all day long lmao Are u serious? Lmao

[@Ackalan]

@Swarmpope You can argue any retarded point you'd like, reality proved it such.

[@brokenbridge6316]

I personally applaud what Carpini was doing on behalf of all of Europe. It's a shame his suggestions were largely ignored. Great video.

[@nenenindonu]

The Mongol invasion of Europe resulted in a continental concern eventually triggering an alliance of various European states such a situation was only preceded by Huns and followed by Ottomans

[@cakapcakep241]

The Turkic and the Mongol horde are pretty much infamous conqueror. They think the world belongs to them. The Crusade also started when the Seljuq Turks conquer most of middle east in a swift invasion. It seems Europe have a trauma with the nomadic central asian.

[@UnionAndroidSRboi]

And recently, Russians.

[@nenenindonu]

@@UnionAndroidSRboi So you consider Russia non-European or as an outside invader ?

[@skovlanpeoplesrepublic]

What About the Magyars before they settled?

[@nenenindonu]

@@skovlanpeoplesrepublic Didn't cause a continental concern lol Magyar tribes never posed a threat to invade whole Europe unlike the above mentioned three

[@captare]

Not chasing fleeing Mongols!!!! Not chasing fleeing Mongols!!!! Not chasing fleeing Mongols!!!! Is this so hard to understand????

[@petergreen5337]

Precisely

[@bobbygetsbanned6049]

Even Mongols chased fleeing Mongols lol.

[@compatriot852]

Surprised you didn't bring up the numerous loses the horde had against invading Lithuania with the Golden Horde eventually falling to Grand Duke Algirdas' conquests Also 18:50 shows a Teutonic knight for some reason when Lithuanians were skilled at light cavalry and ambushing which they had used against the crusaders beforehand

[@Comrade_Marius]

We tend to be overlooked, especially on this channel 💀

[@hurinthalion2571]

@@Comrade_Marius Yeah I agree, Lithuanian history is great and very underrated.

[@gentlemanskier3107]

Yes! Battle of blue waters was influential! Mes lietuviai turime garbingą istoriją

[@beskidwood]

I got here, in the section of comments to mention that I was also surprised in negative way that video authors showed Teutonic Knights (who wanted to kill... I mean to convert into christianity Lithuanias). I love this channel, but this passage was a failure. And btw. Perhaps one of the reasons why there is so little about the history of Lithuenia is a shortage of sources, especially on prechristian period? And if you can recommend any YT channels in english about history of Lithuenia (in emglish) I would be happy to visit them. Regards from Poland

[@adrianaslund8605]

Reminds me of when I played Lithuanians in Medieval 2:Total War. They were pretty scrappy(that means good by the way). You had to always be flanking and clever.

[@chiron14pl]

Thanks for the very detailed history of the aftermath of initial invasion. This helps put their influence in a longer perspective of a clash of cultures across time

[@ASH9366]

Thank you King's & General's for your great content 🔥🌟🔥

[@LaikoUzrasai]

Actually there is known how Lithuanians fought Mongols in Rus principalities. For example Grand duke of Lithuania Gediminas in battle of Blue Waters used a curved line formation of 6 columns that prevented Mongols to outflank Lithuanian troops. Other sources mention that Lithuanian infantry used to form a defensive circle of shields and used their pikes to strike against mounted Mongols cavalry. It shows that Eastern Europeans studied mongols warfare and adopted successful tactics to win battles.

[@CJ-fs1zr]

The Golden Horde is not the same as mongol empire lol Golden Horde was a rump state Mongol empire wouldn’t easily crushed all of europe if they didn’t fall apart from infighting

[@lionljb]

@@CJ-fs1zr "Easily crushed all of europe" is not very likely. While they were effective at battles and managed to burned down wodden castles and layed siege to for short durations, stone castles where a problem for such a large army. The mongols army lived off the land they raided, besieging a castle for a duration of time was not their style of fighting, in the east they sometimes had to move on when a siege took too long. The holy roman empire had the fighting problem of not being able to rally a big army from so many states, but all those independent duchies and kingdoms led to them each building their own castles and strongholds. The mongols would have had to besiege several castles to conquer a small area. Historians estimate that there were around 10000-25000 castles in the HRE several thousand of them being built from stone, far more than in eastern europe. It would have been very costly with many civilians being killed or enslaved, but behind the HRE there would have been the far more centralized France to be faced. The Geography of Central and Western europe was also a big challenge as there were many vast forests, marshes and rivers, the Mongols had the primary goal of conquering the Eurasian Steppe after all

[@CJ-fs1zr]

@@lionljb They had Chinese and Persian siege engineers best of their times Stop coping with muh castles and muh climate Southern China had tropical climate and many more fortifications and they conquered China If they can reach Poland within a year of conquest of europe then all of europe had no chance given the fact it took a decade too conquer Persia while it took decades too conquer China Maybe ten years max for europe being conquered and that’s me being generous this isn’t biased it’s just very obvious Saying the opposite is biased and probably from westerners who can’t cope

[@lionljb]

@@CJ-fs1zr please don't tell me you compare a medieval european castle, situated on a hill/mountain or in a lake, with a chinese walled city (some with dirt wallls). The Mongol conquest of South Korea was slow bc there were sturdy defenses. At Esztergom the mongols managed to breach the wodden city wall after a lenghty siege, but the population had burned all houses and taken all valuables retreating into the stone citadel, which the mongols were unable to take. i recommend watching Kings and Generals video about the mongol army, especially the chapter concerning siege warfare

[@CJ-fs1zr]

@@lionljb You’re relying only on Kings and Generals who I have watched and the vids were western cope. Even whatifalthist a very pro western KZbinr admits Europe would’ve been done for. Persia and China had walled fortresses 🤣. Even hypothetically they can’t breach all they’re just gon starve up there? Yes cause they went all the way through bulgar region and Central Europe in one year including destroying knights cavalry divisions with minimal casualties and Muh Castles will stop them. Go on alt history boards and look at th arguments. It’s so obvious and the only people denying only bring up Golden Horde second invasion, castles, and climates 💀. Explain the first invasion and why europe was destroyed hmmm Hungary btw was powerful during that time period and had the ooga boots castles 🤣

[@NathanS__]

I heard Frederick II, HRE, ordered the construction and expansion of new castles and fortifications and the stockpiling of crossbows. Although the Mongol threat came late in his Reign.

[@BeeEffe]

This channel is amazing. Thank you for existing!

[@leiding3696]

Yes, more Mongols series please. its so interesting and inspiring. and please introduce more about Caghadai khanate, which is also very important for the world history, especially very significant for where is todays turkistan, afghanistan, pakistan, and india area.

[@Temuulen.J]

Tsagadai* khanate

[@danielzhang1916]

we know it as the Chagatai Khanate here in the West

[@apexnext]

my thoughts: _New K&G today, I will watch it later.._ K&G: *Mongols* _watches instantly_

[@superfly19751]

What the Mongols has done has never been done before and will never again be repeated. The most underrated empire in mankind history.

[@Kratos4498]

Have you any any idea? They conquered the world.

[@stephenmulligan7413]

Arguably the most powerful empire on the planet of ancient times was Roman Empire.

[@TheGatsby1986]

@@stephenmulligan7413 Chinese empires were always far stronger... if they went 1v1 they would have been wrecked... Atila the hun sacked europe because the Han empire pushed them west

[@artificialintelligence200]

@@stephenmulligan7413about power Roman empire is non comparable to mongols Mongols fought Chinese,Koreans,Samurai,Europian knights,Kievan Rus,Hashashins(assassins),Muslims west to east of known world and most powerful of that time. Thing is western media dont like mongols so they make it look like they are just barbarians. If learn about mongols little U will know the answer

[@_zqn]

@@artificialintelligence200 Romans fought Italics, Greeks, North-Italic Celtics, Carthaginians, Illyrians, Berbers, Iberians, Armenians, Persians, Arabs, Hebrews, Parthians, Dacians, Germanic peoples, Gauls, Britons, Picts, Caledonii, Scythians and Im missing. What are you trying to prove? Also the roman empire lasted for 1000 years.

[@danielmerhi4456]

I liked the advertisement beginning with chopping an onion, I thought you were going to mention how to deal with the mongols using these knives. But it was a happy ending.

[@terryhughes7349]

Fantastic documentary. Not many videos about the response to the initial Mongol invasions.

[@alessandrogianni3063]

Thanks for the interesting video. The correct name of the franciscan friar is Giovanni di Pian del Carpine. Pian del (or "di") Carpine is an old town (today its name is Magione, in Umbria, central Italy) of Etruscan origin. The name seems to derive from the name of an Etruscan family "Carpnti", later in Latin "Carpinius". Giovanni was born in Magione, in 1252.

[@Ufhhh12]

This video downplays Hungary incredibly, they defeated many mongols in their castles and they burned down every town or food supply and encouraged people to stay in the castles, the mongols didnt take everything and went back, many of them got starved or discouraged due to no loot. Also hungarians attacked mongols on their way back this is well documented btw. not so hard to read.

[@gamblerssensei7607]

Scource?

[@PunchySOB]

It’s a 20 minute video not a documentary

[@Ufhhh12]

@@PunchySOB he could have still said the reality not that hungary was just looted till they became tired 🤣

[@Ufhhh12]

@@gamblerssensei7607 Books Hans-Hemming Kortum. "Transcultural Wars: from the Middle Ages to the 21st Century". You can read wikipedia aswell it mentions sources en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Mongol_invasion_of_Hungary You can just logically think about it too, why do you think they starved to death and got destroyed by snow? Obviously because they had no loot to take, meanwhile they literally havent got into any castles or fortifications Battle of Turusku

[@nonebusiness2023]

These videos are meant to get views and give a basic introduction at best especially to people who don't pick up books. These aren't lectures and this isn't academically done it's a couple of guys making a video to entertain you and try to teach you some history they are amateurs they're not professionals. I hear you though and agree

[@MichalRzeszutek1]

Apart from the publication of both Franciscans "De itinere Fratrum Minorum ad Tartaros", there is also a separate description of Mongalorum prepared by Benedictus Polonus (traveling with Carpini) "Relatio fratris Benedicti Poloni".

[@markanderson3870]

An interesting take on things, but I'm not sure I agree. Bela did enact a lot of reforms and it is quite likely they worked. The internet people you say disagree with you are not just on the internet, there are real scholarly books that take the same viewpoint that you disagree with.

[@Hungabrigoo]

Yeah it's like he assumes Carpinis (who takes up half the video btw.) assessment was perfect and everyone who did not follow his suggestions automatically failed. It is pretty weird. Also the Hungarian Kingdom pulling through the second invasion relatively intact is well documented.

[@TheJPworld]

Yeah. Love this channel, but sometimes they post some pretty mediocre videos and outright pass their personal interpretations as facts. The make it sound as if Europeans were too incompetent and greedy to succesfully repel Mongol invasions after 1240s, even though that is literally what they did. They also try to discredit the success of Bela's reforms as self-glorifying propaganda when the Second Mongol Invasion of Hungary happened well after he was dead, so that doesn't even make sense.They gloss over a LOT of information to "debunk" this well-known European victory.

[@JushuaProvido]

That segue into the ad was such a glorious 180-turn that it almost snapped my neck 😂

[@prolemon1390]

4:17 Really like that you used a model from Mordhau, the game has a variety of many armor, nice to see the game being used as a template in this channel

[@FixTheLanes]

The ammount of knowledge and information in these videos is outstanding. By far one of the most detailed and knowledgeable channels i have come across. Keep up the great work.

[@Mr_M_History]

Really digging the new K & G style!!

[@jackmiller1561]

Loving your history videos man!

[@redbear1935]

I was reading old book ones ,about great duel between Gengis Khans elder son Jochis and Lithuanian lowlander (zemaitis). Witch Jochis lost with sustaining mortal injuries, he gave his golden sword to winner. That stopped Mongols from invading Lithuania.

[@obeselord9501]

so bro sacrificed his life and gave his sword to the mr khan man to stop the invasion?

[@redbear1935]

@@obeselord9501 no, Gengis Khans son lost a duel to Lithuanian fighter . He gave his sword to the winner. I believe there was some kind of agreement before duel.

[@batukaganbat6093]

do you have source?

[@ShesMongolianASMR]

@@batukaganbat6093 no, they never do 🤣

[@abduleve8688]

@@ShesMongolianASMR Mongols sucked in close combat, especially if the Lithuanian had armor. Monks are good with horses but one on one there is a high chance like over 70%chance they'd lose

[@chuntoon1]

I've never commented on your sponsor before, but I'm a long time hello fresh customer .. they're amazing

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

Still in awe that Rome also saw the rise and arrival of the Mongols.

[@rayzas4885]

@Aaron Cohen the Roman empire

[@HaHaBIah]

Carpini: "Here's your Zombie Apocalypse Survival Guide"

[@Raed8792]

😂

[@dorzsboss]

Contrary the claim here, there happened a big battle between hungarians and mongols at Pest. Nogai's and Telebuga's army were defeated there, that was the reason of their withdraval.

[@Mysterialic]

Old man travels long distances to write a sound battle plan, gets ignored.

[@biscolataman]

Although the Turks often comprised the bulk of the Mongol army as well as the bulk of armies opposed to the Mongols, throughout the domains of the Mongol Empire there was a diffusion of military technology, which has already bee and also ethnic groups. In addition to the Mongols and Turks, other ethnicities served in the Mongol military machine and found themselves distant from home. May, T.M., 2012. The Mongol conquests in world history, London: Reaktion Books. p.222

[@kubilay4265]

Actually many different ethnicities served for Mongols , there were Chinese ,Arab and Persian engineers who served for Khagan

[@eonthinker100yrago8]

@narka Turks and Turkic people are the same

[@MugOfJoe]

@@eonthinker100yrago8 cap explain bozo

[@lzstep80]

Results was like after Viking and Hungarian invasions in West-Europe: built up network of stone fortresses, castles fortified(Roman style!) churches. That was working in 1285. In 1241-42 Mongols didn't attack Bohemia because already existed this fortress network, and Western Hungarian stone fortresses successfully defended themselves. There were a plenty of places where Mongols failed: by swamps of Vietnam, the sea by Japan, by the Mameluks(Mameluk leader knew the Mongolian tactics).

[@peterjanossy7033]

Wrong. There were not much stone castles in W Europe before the late 12th century.

[@lzstep80]

@@peterjanossy7033Ok. It is true. Most of the parts buit from wood and earth. One suggestion is that these castles were built particularly in order to protect against external attack - the Angevins, it is argued, began to build them to protect against the Viking raids, and the design spread to deal with the attacks along the Slav and Hungarian frontiers.[45] Another argument is that, given the links between this style of castle and the Norman style, who were of Viking descent, it was in fact originally a Viking design, transported to Normandy and Anjou.[46] The motte-and-bailey castle was certainly effective against assault, although as historian André Debord suggests, the historical and archaeological record of the military operation of motte-and-bailey castles remains relatively limited. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_castle

[@kestutissamogitian1899]

In 14 th century Gran Duchy of Lithuania were in constant war with teutons and mongols,and still pagans,it's inaccurate to show crusaders in that context...

[@henrik3291]

History repeats itself. Carpinis suggestions European cooperation and united command to deal with the Eastern threat is essentially the Nato strategy.

[@duploman1000]

Carpini's courageous efforts reminds me of so many other times in history that method and cooperative strategy has been spread to no avail. If it doesn't effect them where they are right now the don't care.

[@BelligerentBrit]

Interesting video, I was always under the opinion that the Byzantine Empire bore the brunt force of the golden horde initially and then followed the path of appeasement to the Khan.

[@g392_cs_echo5]

If you can capture Mongols in a pitched battle with heavy cavalry, they aren't so invincible.

[@g392_cs_echo5]

@@rascalferret I beg to differ. If I recall correctly, the Poles figured that out. Pretty handily. And the eastern knights also did feigned retreats. Pretty sure they basically massacred an entire Golden Horde army with said tactics.

[@g392_cs_echo5]

@@rascalferret Exactly. Proper chat mate 👍

[@mihanich]

"little is known about how Lithuanians defeated the Mongols" Wrong, it's described in Eastern Slav chronicles, especially the battle of Blue Waters. But you ignored it in a fashion characteristic to westerners.

[@grappling.enthusiast]

And western Europeans generally performed poorly against the Mongols.

[@grappling.enthusiast]

@lunaticking Yeah because it's on like the other side of the world.

[@theentertainmentnation4694]

@@grappling.enthusiastWestern Europeans didn’t faced the mongols at all 😂

[@grappling.enthusiast]

@@theentertainmentnation4694 battle of legnica

[@theentertainmentnation4694]

@@grappling.enthusiast "According to James Chambers, Henry's force numbered at most 25,000 troops, most likely less, and had a large number of untrained and poorly equipped men, sometimes with no weapons other than the tools of their trade" they had probably less than 100 templar knights such a great "Western" army like you say

[@andyl8055]

This was fascinating and consistent with what I’ve read in several accounts of the Mongols. Not getting bottled up and allowing them to pillage, not falling for the feinted retreat, acknowledgement that European armour was superior, availability of ranged weaponry to allow engagement against their horse archers, and even weaponry designed to dismount them. Obviously a learned man.

[@zandrew2742]

European armour was not superior compare to Mongol armour at all

[@lobsterjohnson8642]

@@zandrew2742 Except that it was completely superior. Mongols didn't even take on the cream of the crop Europeans instead getting shat on by Hungary and what is now Poland 🤣🤣

[@zandrew2742]

@@lobsterjohnson8642 LOL, Not even the main force of Mongol. The majority of Mongol army stayed in asia. So defeated one Mongol fringe force few times is the very proud of European？Mongols didn't even take EURO kindoms seriously back then.

[@lobsterjohnson8642]

@@zandrew2742 Got expelled by literal farm peasants in Hungary 🤣 z Andrew. You a white man?

[@zandrew2742]

@@lobsterjohnson8642 Mongolian herdsmen murdered millions of white man

[@ballenboy]

Ironically the Hungarians were themselves horse riding nomads that invaded and settled in Europe 500 years earlier. Maybe it took a eastern nomad to defeat the new eastern nomad.

[@douglastrouette1583]

I think the shield you use as an icon for the battles is upside down. The Tree of Life has leaves which usually point the other way...

[@jailedtwice735]

Daniil and his brother beat Quremsa (Orda's son) several times with his troops. In the winter of 1254-1255, Daniil organized campaigns in Podolia and Bolokhov land and expelled the basqaqs from there in 1255. The plan to march on Kyiv was thwarted by the invasion of the Lithuanians near Lutsk (after they received permission from the Pope in the same year to fight the Ruthenian lands). Therefore, Boroldai was sent from the Horde to maintain the "Tatar prestige". In 1258, the Romanovichs were forced to go with him to Lithuania, but I think because of their frequent attacks, Daniil was not opposed.

[@Prompeius]

Great video. Got very interested in the Mongols and their history after reading Conn Iggulden's book series about the life of Ghengis Khan, and then his series on the Romans and the life of Gaius Julius Ceasar. Great series if anyone like based on history novels.

[@panther3per642]

I hope for great expansion of all its content the best history channel by far there is not enough time in a day for such a great channel

[@maketaco6683]

remarkable production value

[@LordPadriac]

Poorly. The Europeans fought the Mongols poorly. The only reason the Mongols didn't conquer Western Europe as well is because Europe got lucky. Twice. Mongol governance at the time was still a nonsensical mix of modern and tribal. When the Great Kahn died law demanded that all return back to Mongol to choose the next Great Kahn. Twice when the Mongols were massed and prepared to storm over the mountains into Western Europe, which had no answer to the Mongols as the English Heavy Cavalry and English long bow were still centuries away, the Great Kahn died forcing the war to be abandoned as the Mongols returned home to choose a new one. Essentially Western Europe fought the Mongols with the same thoughts and prayer America is using to fought gun violence with much the same results.

[@forickgrimaldus8301]

Thats more the 1st half of the Mongol Invasions but later invasions the Europeans managed to adapt, As said in the Video while the 2nd Invasion of Hungary went very Poorly the Mongols got Bogged down by Gurrella Warfare from Adhock Formations, The Decline of the Mongols certainly played a Huge Part in the Mongol Defeat but the Europeans did later Adapt to these Massive defeats. Also The Mongols were never Really a Treat to Western Europe after they Divided being more a danger to Eastern Europe and the Balkans

[@silenzio_3427]

❤❤total war attila main theme in the background is awsome+ perf vid👌👌

[@lazysunside]

Recent technology had revealed a secret section hidden in Carpini’s work. It was not a last resort plan but a plan made for the first intrusion of the main Mongol army. When Carpini traveled through Persia, he made contact with the secretive group of assassin whom recently lost their headquarter in Alamut citadel and their grand master Imam Rukn al-Din Khurshah (1255-1256) executed by Hulagu Khan. The plan was to have around 20 skilled assassins to wait for the main Mongol army to arrive. Then they will systematically assassinate all the Mongol generals and ruling members. Afterward the Mongol invasion would be reduced to many hordes of raiding band only to be picked off individually later on. And that was how Europe and Middle east defeated the Mongol Empire. And the said empire disintegrated into five khanates.

[@InGrindWeCrust2010]

Wonderful video as usual! European lessons learned and at least intended reforms are not something I had learned about before.

[@BlueLineofthesky]

Europe was reluctant to help Hungary because they did not forget those savage centuries of Hungarian raids and attacks and invasions against civilised Europe. For centuries, Hungary was acting as the Mongols did. This is the reason why the main kingdoms in the civilized Europe did not wanted to help Hungary.

[@Philipp.of.Swabia]

7:25 if I’m not completely mistaken, by this point this had actually been the fifth time the pope/s had excommunicated Emperor Frederic, but he just didn’t give a f

[@drstrangelove4998]

Exactly

[@georgeslammin2127]

Love the accidental Partridge in pondering what to cook the Mongols for dinner. Keep them coming!

[@Funkmajster]

The last minute of the video represents the German/ Prussian Teutonic Order which was an adversary of aforementioned kingdoms, however it represented fraction of real forces on the battlefield. The same Order was subdued by the Polish Lithuanian contingent during the battle of Grunwald. Where most of the wester European Knights were butchered by what's meant to be a future Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth army.

[@ElBandito]

Before James Bond, we had Caprini.

[@julianforrer478]

I get vibes from game of thrones when robert told cersei how to battle the dothraki.

[@thicclegendfeep4050]

As a European, I am proud of my ancestors for standing against the Mongols in battle

[@TheJPworld]

@Buwaider Mongols invaded Europe several times to disastrous results. Even their famous 1240s invasion gained them little other than pointless battlefield victories, the majority of European states simply recuperated and would push them back for decades and centuries to come. How does a couple of Muslim victories in North Africa "saved" Europe? What you're saying makes no sense. Specially when neighboring European vassal states ALLOWED Muslim armies to travel unmolested in African Christian lands in their way to fight Mongols, like in Ain Jalut. Neither one "saved" the other, they saved themselves.

[@titanvlogger7221]

@@TheJPworld Mongols never really pushed hard on Europe as they were busy with Japanese, Chinese and Muslims even crusader team up with Mongols obviously Europe would have been destroyed if they passed through Muslims

[@hangten1904]

You can only be proud if you're Polish or Hungarian.

[@gabork5055]

@@hangten1904 Or maybe a descendant of one of those hospitallers/templars. You never know what these people delude themselves into believing. Granted to be clear that seeing Europe currently makes me think there wasn't anything to be proud of as there was nothing worth defending.

[@Rounddaclock44]

It’s wild because the two faiths were battling it out (Christianity/Islam) when along comes the Mongols with their Old Gods, beating the brakes off of everyone🤯

[@davidcunningham2074]

another great video. i am watching 2 or 3 a day.

[@biscolataman]

As a result, it is, for example, kosher to theorise the Persian state under the Mongols (the Ilkhanate, 1236-1355) but not the polity from which those very same Mongols actually launched their takeover, namely the Mongol Empire, or the polity to its west with which the Ilkhanate was forever quarrelling, the Golden Horde (who knew themselves as the ‘Kipchak Khanate’). Neumann, I., & Wigen, E. (2018). The Steppe As the Great Unknown. In The Steppe Tradition in International Relations: Russians, Turks and European State Building 4000 BCE-2017 CE (pp. 26-63). Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. doi:10.1017/9781108355308.004 Popularly called The Golden Horde, the domains of the heirs of Jochi were not known by that name. The term ‘Golden Horde’ does not enter the sources until the sixteenth century, when Russian chroniclers referred to the domains as Zolotaia Orda, the Golden Camp or Palace.¹ During the Mongol era, they were known as the Kipchak Ulus or Khanate or the Jochid Ulus or Khanate. The Kipchak Khanate appellation came later and was a substitution for the Dasht-i Kipchak, or the Kipchak Steppes. May, Timothy. “The Jochid Ulus or Golden Horde.” The Mongol Empire, Edinburgh University Press, 2018, pp. 280-314,

[@geeljire9247]

You ruined it for me, "Golden Horde" sounded way more badass.

[@snowmoon7385]

@@geeljire9247 Lol...Poor golden horde

[@acute3230]

The Mongols had a proper unified command which Europe lacked although the church was there but they was more interested in talking about religion than saving them.

[@JC-mx9su]

Kings and Generals, there are more Mongol invasions that you haven't uploaded such as: Java Sakhalin Burma Tibet Korea And many more.

[@Sapwolf]

Nothin like losing a battle to assist with getting your game up. FEAR is the great motivator.

[@Ibloop]

The mongol empire really was huge, from the east coast of Asia to Europe

[@ziyamozafari4404]

Europe behaved very well towards Mongols and did not make any mistakes to provoke the Mongols Not like Persian or Arab to slaughtered the Mongols Messenger..

[@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl]

The mamluks slaughtered the messagers and won

[@ziyamozafari4404]

@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl The Mamluks were a bunch of Turkic, and no they didn’t killed the messenger..Sultan biabras and Qutz were afraid 😱

[@BOSIE321]

I'm reading a book on the Mongols at the moment and I find that whole 'kill the Mongol messenger thing' hilariously suspicious. Maybe it's because i'm used to reading about ancient pre-christian/islam cultures but it just seems so weird for states to just murder the Mongol envoys; the Mongols must have been the rudest people imaginable (Yo mama is a ho, submit to Genghis or i'll plow her right now") or it never actually happened and it was just used as a justification for slaughter.

[@aburoach9268]

Perhaps every mongol messenger did indeed talk trash like that 🤣

[@johnnyboy3410]

Mongol messengers to the Mamluks were being smug and egotistic and usually messengers were regarded as an extension of their king, hence why Genghis took an extreme offense to Khwarzmian sultan shaving 2 of his messengers and beheading one of them

[@geeljire9247]

They took one for the team

[@aburoach9268]

@@johnnyboy3410 maybe he instructed them to troll with the enemy, just to have an excuse to invade them

[@ziggytheassassin5835]

You could imagine the type of language the mongol messangers did use tho. They viewed genghis as destined to rule the world so they probably talked really condescendingly to every other kingdom.

[@alexs25867]

Heavy cav, crossbows, strategic fortifications and scorched earth. Most of which was thanks to the improvements of Béla. The mongols didn’t use supply lines, and they mostly focused on living off of the land in order to maximize the speed of their attacks. This meant they would keep lactating female horses with them and use their milk as sustenance. In fact, part of Mongol cuisine Is yogurt mixed with blood. This meant that as long as the horses were well fed, the mongols were well fed. Europeans eventually learned that by eliminating potential grazing sites surrounding castles, and by storing all their food behind castles whose walls were defended by crossbows, they could starve the mongols horses. Thus a siege would do more harm to the mongols than to the Europeans. The Europeans also conducted hit and run raids of their own against the Mongol forces as they were retreating, using the forests to hide their troops as they approached, not unlike guerrilla warfare. They also invested in heavy cavalry to conduct counter-raids and break sieges, Heavy cavalry ended up being very useful against the mongols when they used the terrain to trap the mongols in place and prevent them from manoeuvring around them. The frequency of the European fortifications meant that as long as the castles remained unconquered (most of them were never conquered due to their refined siege tactics and engineering which withstood the mongols siege equipment) the more enemies they had behind them, who could cut off their retreat. Hence, the farther they advanced, the quicker they starved and the more enemies they had to pass by to get back to their own territory when they inevitably retreated. This was how the mongols almost lost their entire invasion force during the second invasion of Hungary. Unfortunately, the Poles didn’t do nearly enough to prepare for the second invasion than the Hungarians did, so they suffered a second devastating defeat. After that however, they began to catch up to the Hungarians in terms of battle tactics, weapons and fortifications, almost completely abandoning their code of chivalry in favour of survival. The third invasion of Poland was soundly thwarted, and the mongols were never a real threat to Europe since. Ultimately, Béla was the main character of this story lol. The mongols may have won the battle, but Poland and Hungary won the war. Poland would later go on to completely thrash the Ottoman army at the siege of Vienna which marked the end of Ottoman expansion into Europe. Poland and Hungary became known as “the bulwark of Christendom” and holy shit they fucking earned that.

[@nouhowlmao2809]

Is that why Poland and Hungary got screwed by literally all of europe? Sounds like they should have just worked to be the bulkwark of their own kingdoms instead of some silly faith

[@hurinthalion2571]

@@nouhowlmao2809 anime pfp

[@Justinian43]

This gives me Medieval II Total War vibes when you've been building your infantry and then BAM, can't properly face the Mongols and gotta readjust your tactic

[@daniell1483]

Not having a detailed image of why and how their incursions into Europe eventually failed is quite disappointing. It is strange that we have such detailed accounts in Roman wars, but not so for events much more recent.

[@maciekdH]

I think it's a bit silly to speak about Polish and Lithuanian conquests in the XIV centuries and put the Teutonic-like Knights in the background...

[@crownprincesebastianjohano7069]

The Romans were we versed in how to defeat Steppe Horse Archers. It is unfortunate that the collective knowledge of a 1000 years of campaigning against the latter was scattered following 1204. Had the 4th Crusade not torn the heart of the Byzantine Empire, much could have been learned from them and used during the first invasions.

[@bighands69]

All European kingdoms at that stage understood how to deal with hordes. Those on the Eurasian plain simply were not equipped and were on the fringes of European culture.

[@ohauss]

The Romans had plenty of difficulties against highly mobile armies. And it seems you miss that the Byzantine Empire ebbed and rose time and again throughout its history.

[@hangten1904]

This was the dark ages, all the knowledge of Rome and Classical Era was forgotten until the Renaissance.

[@jaelee1996]

​@@hangten1904That is actually not true. Mongol invasions were around the 13th century, which would be considered high middle ages. Dark ages is also known as late antiquity, the years after the fall of the Western Romans. There was a decrease in art and science due to lack of centralized government with funding to support such endeavors, but by no means were arms race and warfare forgotten. Armor and weapons continued to develop along with tactics.

[@_____Shadow_____]

Y’all forgot the Danubian principalities and how Moldova defeated the Golden Horde

[@penelopegreene]

When your enemy is a Dark Souls Boss though...

[@marcello7781]

This video was very satisfying, especially the part about Giovanni da Pian del Carpine.

[@denniscleary7580]

It’s amazing what Europe can achieve when everyone is working together towards a common goal. Good stuff kings 👍

[@keyboardking8008]

you missed the part where they ware concerned with the color or their hats ... much like today

[@riccardocirielli]

Mongol fanboys: "in the XIII Century Europe trembled before the Mongols!!" Europeans in the XIII Century: "So anyway, what colour should the Cardinals' hats be?"

[@drstrangelove4998]

That’s about right ✌🏻

[@riccardocirielli]

Fixed a typo

[@my_other_side473]

Only win a minor battle once and the Euroboys think that they really decimated the Mongol Empire 😂

[@anonkun3807]

This is a Cope kid

[@riccardocirielli]

@Tresiyt Ecibo terrorised who? Lmao. They just raided hungary, sit the fuck down

[@_Hasek_]

You forgot to mention that the Mongols didn't abandon Hungary because they learned of Ogedei's death.

[@HellboyGodzilla]

Dude, Mongol fan boys will die before admitting to that or that hungary stomped the shit out of them in the second Hungarian mongal war

[@ognivoav5572]

Kinda a good reason to stop the hard lasting campaign.

[@GreenKnight343]

4:08 that cuman (right) looks a lot like a mercenary you can make in the game Mordhau.