How The Hyenas Accidentally Revealed A Disturbing Truth About Scar's Health In Lion King

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@19WolfGirl74
@19WolfGirl74 Жыл бұрын
Scar was able to father cubs. He had one cub in TLK2:Simba’s Pride with Zira, the older brother Nuka. If Scar was sick it’s very likely that Nuka was sick with the same disease too, it may have even been genetic. That’s why Nuka believed he could/should be king instead of Kovu who was paw picked by Scar because he would grow to be strong and healthy. Also, let’s not forget about the broadway musical. There’s a song in there that was originally meant for the movie, but was ultimately cut called “The Madness of Scar” which shows his mental state declining and him trying to force Nala to be his mate and bare his cubs. If it had been kept in the movie it would have completely changed this theory.
@cheryltate6992
@cheryltate6992 Жыл бұрын
scar did not want nuka because nuka was sick but still was scars real son. Thats also why nuka is not king but in the wild scar would have killed kovu because is not his.
@19WolfGirl74
@19WolfGirl74 Жыл бұрын
@Secretly-TransitioningHailey I think Vitani is the toss up character whether she was or wasn’t his since nobody can agree and it’s never been confirmed by Disney. But she does look a lot like him so 🤷🏼‍♀️
@dragames
@dragames Жыл бұрын
we should just go by the original story and its sources.... which still back it up. In the very beginning of the original movie, he taunts scar about how even his son would be able to take him on. Suggesting right there something inherently different and wrong. Simba sees it as playful, Scar sees it as the insult that it is.
@19WolfGirl74
@19WolfGirl74 Жыл бұрын
@@dragames I don’t remember that bit? Maybe it was a deleted scene?
@Chordata-flyer
@Chordata-flyer Жыл бұрын
@@dragames Mufasa? No he does not. Mufasa never teases Scar about his weakness in the movie. Not even once.
@voltekthecyborg7898
@voltekthecyborg7898 Жыл бұрын
Actually, Scar has one major, defining feature over Mufasa: a dark mane. See, in the wild, the mane correlates to a lion's testosterone level: the darker the mane, the more testosterone a lion has. Another feature is the tufts of fur on the elbows, and, for this subspecies, that is a dominant trait. However, darker manes attract more heat, and kills more of the batter used in cooking (if you know, you know).
@ghostf1903
@ghostf1903 Жыл бұрын
Tbh, I thought the tufts of fur on his elbows were just the ends of his long mane that stretched to his underbelly 😭
@voltekthecyborg7898
@voltekthecyborg7898 Жыл бұрын
@@ghostf1903 lol
@gandalftheantlion
@gandalftheantlion Жыл бұрын
I don’t think the writers knew that, but I do think they were using the black hat troupe to signify he’s the bad guy. Like how cowboy films use the black hat to signify a bandit/bad guy.
@lagopusvulpuz1571
@lagopusvulpuz1571 Жыл бұрын
This bs again, I heard a million times. We know, it's a cartoon, the Royalty family have the colors of the Sun. Scar is an outcast, he has more dull colors. The long hair makes him look more edgy or sinister like an Emo or Rebel.
@Ilanca_with_a_C
@Ilanca_with_a_C Жыл бұрын
I was just about to say that but you beat me to it
@MetalHanyou1
@MetalHanyou1 Жыл бұрын
I feel this theory REALLY reaches a lot and assumes the writers of these movies were delving deeper into these characters than they actually were. I don't think they were bearing in mind real-world lion pride behaviors when they made Scar - I think they just needed to establish his villainness by having him be something of an outcast among the lions. This theory, interesting though it is, seems to just want to make Scar feel more sympathetic than he was ever really intended to be.
@zakosist
@zakosist Жыл бұрын
5:07 Scar in the original lion king was hunting on behalf of a whole pack of hyena and prioritize feeding them to build alliance. He WAS able to hunt, even beyond his own need but may have voluntarily borderline starved himself for his long term plan
@sakurakittynoir1400
@sakurakittynoir1400 Жыл бұрын
When I was a kid I noticed the considerable size difference between Mufasa & Scar. It just didn't seem right. I remember thinking that it wasn't just a weight issue and that he actually looked sick. Glad to know I wasn't crazy.
@Katfeathers
@Katfeathers Жыл бұрын
An interesting theory. But like a lot of theories about anything like Lion King, one thing gets forgotten: how much of the story is really a human story with animal costumes. Lots of the behavior was human behavior, not lion behavior, including the hand waved implication of other cubs having other fathers that were just off screen or something.
@ambermaxwell7633
@ambermaxwell7633 Жыл бұрын
The movie is strongly influenced by Shakespeare's hamlet
@catacat12
@catacat12 3 ай бұрын
I like this style of movies cartoons. Anthropomorphic animals. Otherwise, I just watch documentaries. Do you like it when the movie is with talking animals but more Anthropomorphic style?
@yaahlabanyamyan144
@yaahlabanyamyan144 Жыл бұрын
Scar wasn't sick. Disney made a play on size and brain power. Scar was made skinny on purpose. Mufasa was made muscular on purpose. Scar had the brains. Mufasa had the braun. Hence when Scar says to Zazu at the beginning of the film " When it comes to brains I've got the Lion's share, but when it comes to brute strength I'm at the shallow end of the gene pool ". He was never sick. He was just genetically smaller. His brain however, made up for it, as shown by his incredible calculative planning of the stampede, literally one of the most masterful acts of villain behavior ever portrayed by cartoon artists and screen writers on screen
@catacat12
@catacat12 3 ай бұрын
People just want to correct the creations of others instead of making their own unique ones. They simply create problems to solve them. I agree with what you wrote.
@karimah8687
@karimah8687 Жыл бұрын
Scar had a grudge against his oldest brother and passed that down against his own oldest son who was Nuka and decided to give priority to the second born because of it. The next cub born was probably vitani but Scar wanted a male successor. Kovu was either kidnapped from another pride, or adopted. Scar was so impressed by a cub that nearly looked like him that he chose him. So Kovu and Vitani received most of the best rations of food which is why they looked the healthiest compared to Nuka. Nuka was just the scapegoat because he is the oldest.
@baval5
@baval5 Жыл бұрын
Scar brought the Hyenas food, not the other way around. We see him throwing them a Zebra leg after they beg for it in the movie, and its the entire premise of their alliance "Stick with me and youll never go hungry again!".
@PlanetGuy901
@PlanetGuy901 Жыл бұрын
Well, if Scar had a deadly physical disease, he wouldn't be able to fight it for like 5 years. That just seems unlikely, but it could still be possible that his immune system was strong enough to keep him alive that long until the hyenas attacked him, but he would've died before The Lion King II: Simba's Pride. Hyena attack or no Hyena attack if this theory was true.
@SuperGamefreak18
@SuperGamefreak18 Жыл бұрын
I feel like it was more debilitating than actually deadly like he could still eat normally but couldn’t hunt or fight well because of it
@dragames
@dragames Жыл бұрын
a lot of animals can live far longer than their physical disease. Take animals like fennec foxes that can live to 10 years. One might not find a mate because they look diseased yet still live out those 10 years. Animals typically want to only reproduce with what LOOKS healthy.
@mjrtaurus2714
@mjrtaurus2714 Жыл бұрын
The interesting thing is Scar was based off of your typical African lion. Mufasa and Simba were based more off of Barbary lions, which are now extinct in the wild. African lions have a slinky, thinner appearance compared to the bulkier Barbary lion.
@Abdi-libaax
@Abdi-libaax 3 ай бұрын
Barbary lions are African lion Sub Species. They’re found in North Africa.
@catacat12
@catacat12 3 ай бұрын
​@Abdi-libaax When someone says "African lion", it means all lion in South Africa area/countries, and when someone says "Barbary Lion" means the Atlas lions from the North Africa, the Altas Mountains. Did I say it well?
@kg6276
@kg6276 Жыл бұрын
Male lions tend to form coalitions with each other. Prides often have more than one adult male lion in them. Sometimes those males are brothers, and sometimes they just teamed up while wandering as young adults. Mufasa and Scar tiffing about who's in charge wouldn't happen in the real world of lions.
@artisticsolarninja
@artisticsolarninja Жыл бұрын
scar actually does produce offspring. which is nuka but completely weak and scar rejected him.
@aurorasilverthorne
@aurorasilverthorne Жыл бұрын
A Tale of Two Brothers was deemed noncanon by Disney while the Lion Guard was confirmed to be canon. Scar was ill, but it was the venom from the snake bite that scarred his eye that was killing him and no one in the pride cared enough about him to do anything about it. Mufasa even patronized and teased him about it by nicknaming him Scar instead of thanking Scar for saving their kingdom from the scheming strange lion. Scar also had at least one cub, Nuka, who was angry because his own father chose Kovu over him as heir.
@WerezerRoo
@WerezerRoo Жыл бұрын
That how he goy his scar 😢
@thomassommerfeld8494
@thomassommerfeld8494 Жыл бұрын
Tbh . I prefer Tale of two brothers. The lion guard version makes it look like no one cared to help him. Which makes the whole pride AND Mufasa much more disgusting to me. I just cemented that I hate Mufasa, Rafika and anyone who could have done something.
@suicunetobigaara
@suicunetobigaara Жыл бұрын
Where is the canon evidence that Nuka is Scar's son?
@aurorasilverthorne
@aurorasilverthorne Жыл бұрын
@@suicunetobigaara Nuka's dialog in Simba's Pride and the fact he has similar colors to Scar.
@suicunetobigaara
@suicunetobigaara Жыл бұрын
@aurorasilverthorne Nothing of his dialogue suggests that in Simba's Pridez also Kovu has Scar's colours too. If Zira had a son of Scar, even one she deemed weak like Nuka, don't you think she would have lorded over Simba and the other lions and favoured him? Or mentioned it when Nuka died?
@Jade_1872
@Jade_1872 Жыл бұрын
He did have a cub though. It wasn’t Kovu yeah, but wasn’t Nuka the blood son of Scar? Yeah he was clearly sickly and it passed down it seems, but he wasn’t completely unable to have cubs. Most likely the cubs he had just died from starvation or sickness is all.
@AttemptedVoices
@AttemptedVoices Жыл бұрын
Hence why he single-pawdedly chose Kovu to be the king. Because he feared his own son would die like he did, so he chose a healthy lion's cub.
@troymacdonald8257
@troymacdonald8257 Жыл бұрын
Taking this to serious it's a movie. ❤
@WildKat25
@WildKat25 Жыл бұрын
Nuka just comments that Kovu's father wasn't Scar. However, Nuka never comments that Scar was his Father. When Nuka argues that he should have been the chosen one, his argument is focused on the fact that he is "older and stronger" not that he is the legitimate heir as Scar's son. Vitani and Kovu are from the same litter, so if Kovu's father isn't Scar, neither is Vitani's.
@LadyLeomon
@LadyLeomon Жыл бұрын
@@WildKat25 at this point I strongly suspect Disney realised too late on “wait, won’t this mean Simba’s daughter is in love with her cousin?” and instead of changing Kovu’s design instead changed a few lines of dialogue so kids wouldn’t think she was hooking up with her second cousin 😖😖😖
@TheFlash-vb9bj
@TheFlash-vb9bj Жыл бұрын
Also I think Vitani was his daughter too as well.
@weeb535
@weeb535 Жыл бұрын
Irl black maned lions are a LOT stronger, larger AND healthier. So scar should've had the blonde/red mane and Mufasa should've had the black mane
@TMP200000
@TMP200000 Жыл бұрын
But it was Scar that was bringing the hyenas food. They didn't have access to hunt the pride lands and could only get scraps from the bones in the Elephant graveyard. Scar brought them that Zebra leg and unless that was provided to him by the lionesses, then that means he would have hunted it on his own. In real life, however, male lions can't actually hunt once they're fully grown because their manes weigh them down too much. That's why they rely on the lionesses to provide food for them while they offer protection and breeding. Young male lions can hunt before their manes are fully grown in, but they must join or takeover a pride if they are going to survive.
@bloodwolf9075
@bloodwolf9075 Жыл бұрын
Scar had two cubs and adopted a third. There's even a theory that Nala is Scar's cub, making her and Simba cousins but a lot of people say they're siblings
@gandalftheantlion
@gandalftheantlion Жыл бұрын
Wait, isn’t the fact that Scar was feeding the hyenas show he was a capable hunter? The hyenas seem to be starving in the film until Scar gives them a leg of a zebra.
@schipperkeandcats3469
@schipperkeandcats3469 Жыл бұрын
Dident scar have nuka and vitani only nuka seems to have inherited his father genes the most his mane doest grow as much as kovu i cant realy believe scar was sick just less strong but he was smarter for sure
@marinamccleery2683
@marinamccleery2683 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking that too; you explained it better thanks!
@Punkkis90
@Punkkis90 Жыл бұрын
Is it actually confirmed that Scar is their father, tho? There are theories, sure, but I haven’t found any research confirming that. But I agree with you that Scar wasn’t really sick, it just like he said ”Well, as far as brains go, I got the lion's share. But when it comes to brute strength, I'm afraid I'm at the shallow end of the gene pool.”
@gargwinvinesnake6961
@gargwinvinesnake6961 Жыл бұрын
The hyenas helped Scar with the promise of food. Scar brought the hyenas a zebra leg which they devoured. If Scar was really unable to hunt and starving where did he get the zebra leg and why didn't he eat it himself?
@anubusx
@anubusx Жыл бұрын
African Ebay.
@ambermaxwell7633
@ambermaxwell7633 Жыл бұрын
Scavenger
@ambermaxwell7633
@ambermaxwell7633 Жыл бұрын
​@@anubusxlmao 😂
@naniengine
@naniengine Жыл бұрын
Also, a sickly lion wouldn't be able to hunt a zebra.
@Zoloft77
@Zoloft77 Жыл бұрын
Hyneas help with food? Please! One a few weeks ago got to down 48 oysters. Another thought she too good for the Cheesecake Factory. Oh, wait! Those hyenas.... Funny algorithm. 😂
@CassieJo
@CassieJo Жыл бұрын
Yeah...no. Scar might have been sick, but I'll tell you what. It wasn't from lack of testosterone. That pure black mane is a sign of macho man status for lions. The girls would have been all over him. He already had kids with Zira from the Outlands Pride, Nuka and Vitani. So that fatherless Scar theory doesn't wash. Sorry, not sorry. Also, I don't understand who the characters in Lion King 2 thought Kovu looked like Scar after he got his own scar. They kept comparing the two of them. But Kovu looked like a normal lion to me. Nuka looked more like his father, and Vitani had an evil Kiara feel to her and she might have ended up looking like Zira when she got older.
@spiritlily6605
@spiritlily6605 Жыл бұрын
In something a read a long time ago was that Vatani was actually scar and nalas kiddo. Nala ran away looking for help as she didnt want vatani. Don't know if that's accurate though 😅
@Punkkis90
@Punkkis90 Жыл бұрын
@@spiritlily6605 I think that one’s just a fan theory. But is it really confirmed that Scar is actually Nuka and Vitani’s father, either?
@Phillip_Graves_Male_Wife
@Phillip_Graves_Male_Wife Жыл бұрын
scar knew the hyenas from a young age and he dint make them belive he could hurt them and they did not hunt for him, he hunted for them accualy, its shown him giving them food in the movie, and he was not infertile, he had a cub, Nuka, scar is likely skinny due to his color, getting alot warmer than the other lions, wich is why he hengs out in the shadows, and he was not emaciated when simba returned, u can even see it in ur own clips, wasit is fater, back legs arent skin and bones and his torso too looks biger, his healthy looking but not muscular
@lilchristuten7568
@lilchristuten7568 Жыл бұрын
Did you seriously just say that a fan book is more reliable than the actual company that came up with the series showing Scar's backstory? Scar had a son. His name is Nuka and it's likely that Vitani is his daughter. So yes Scar did have children. No Simba didn't take down Scar easily. He was loosing until Scar told him that he murdered his father.
@MrJohnffrey87
@MrJohnffrey87 Жыл бұрын
I had this theory when I was a kid, because of his unnatural coloring, I knew a bit about lion prides when I was a kid even before I saw the movie.
@Queen_Mz_Quinn
@Queen_Mz_Quinn Жыл бұрын
Well....just one problem.... Seriously though Scar was trying to get with Nala... Yes I know it was a yeeted concept but it was because of slight taboo indication even though it would be a thing with lions irl. Still Disney was wise to not have Lion King get scary accurate that way....
@kaibrothers4210
@kaibrothers4210 Жыл бұрын
Scar does have cubs. Nuka is his son and the name Take mean is "dirt" or "garbage."
@joshualowe959
@joshualowe959 Жыл бұрын
In the Lion Guard, Scar sung the song "When I Led The Guard". In it, Scar meets a strange male lion who looked like Zira had a friend snake who bit Scar in the eye which gave him the scar on his eye. The snake's bite had venom which poisoned Scar both mentally & physically
@blobbertmcblob4888
@blobbertmcblob4888 Жыл бұрын
The lion guard is not cannon lol.
@amandalord4746
@amandalord4746 Жыл бұрын
@@blobbertmcblob4888 disney has said lion guard is canon
@remnants9974
@remnants9974 Жыл бұрын
@@amandalord4746 though the way Scar is portrayed there doesn't fit his personality in the movie well, so I doubt this is the backstory originally in mind for the character
@amandalord4746
@amandalord4746 Жыл бұрын
@@remnants9974 yeah probably not, was just saying TLG is canon lol
@Angie2343
@Angie2343 Жыл бұрын
Hey @DeluxeDisney, why do you think Scar wanted Nala as his queen in "The Madness of King Scar"?
@wendydomino
@wendydomino Жыл бұрын
I think this script was written by AI. At one point the video calls Simba's father "Musafa" instead of "Mufasa"
@Alewolf01
@Alewolf01 Жыл бұрын
Scar was the one who fed the Hyena's he brought them food, not the other way around, that and Scar had Cubs, Nuka. from 2nd movie. and Disney stted tale of two brothers was not Canon, but Lion Guard is.
@zakosist
@zakosist Жыл бұрын
Thought the same. Thats one big reason I think the theory doesn't hold up, in the original movie it even seemed like a big reason hyenas worked for him was because he brought them food. And if he can feed a whole pack of hyenas, he can access MORE than enough food to feed himself. I thought he voluntarily starved himself to build alliance with hyenas over time. Hes a really dedicated long term planner.
@mevb
@mevb Жыл бұрын
Uh, male lions don't need to hunt if they're in a pride, that is the females' job and the males eat first, especially the alpha male, females and cubs afterwards. Males only hunt if they're alone or if they're in a smaller group of twos or trios (especially if they're brothers).
@barrybarlowe5640
@barrybarlowe5640 Жыл бұрын
Don't buy it. This is just a "give Scar a little sympathy, he's had a hard life..." Mufasa was already too lenient letting him stay with the pride. The only case that I know of, where that happened was with two male lions who worked as a team acquiring and defending their pride. Scar is no team player.
@charlespennie3621
@charlespennie3621 Жыл бұрын
Nuka actually resembles scar. Same evil eyes, emaciated look. Nuka means trash in Swahili as Scar's birth name Taka means dirt or waste...do the math
@Fantasygirl2001
@Fantasygirl2001 Жыл бұрын
Uh only one problem with that theory scar had two cubs with his wife zira: nuka and vitani and yes I can hear you ask what about kovu well even in the second lion king movie nuka said clearly that kovu wasn't scar's kid he just took him in. Now I don't doubt that scar is sickly at the time we see him in the movie but that could be that he was shuned by the others though technically lion prides don't actually have more than one male in the pride in fact most male lions are kicked out of their parents pride when they hit adolescence to start their own prides there are thousands of inaccuracies in the lion king movies
@lunarcross5581
@lunarcross5581 Жыл бұрын
It has been proven that at least Nuka was scar's blood child with Zira, so scar CAN have cubs. I'm not sure about vitani but Disney has said that Nuka is scars cub by biologically
@jasperspearl2768
@jasperspearl2768 Жыл бұрын
In the Lion Guard, Scar used to be muscular like Mufasa. However when he betrayed the guard and lost the Roar, he became skinny.
@raineterni2219
@raineterni2219 Жыл бұрын
Why eat scraps of the hyenas when the lionesses do the hunting? He even brought a zebra's meat to the hyenas, which means it was the other way around and Scar was feeding the hyenas to gain control over them.
@TMP200000
@TMP200000 Жыл бұрын
Nuka is Scar's son. There is no doubting that, he looks just like Scar, but has Zira's red eyes. Vitani is Zira's daughter but her father isn't known (though there is a popular theory that Nala is actually her mother and that Scar is her father, but not canon). Kovu is Zira's son, but possibly adopted by her. Scar is not his father, though it was originally meant to be that way and was scrapped for the love story between Kovu and Kiara. If you look at Kovu though, his mane is brown and not black. He is probably related to the darker color lions of the night pride from Lion Guard and perhaps one day we will find out his canon origins.
@rafertieslorekeeper5771
@rafertieslorekeeper5771 Жыл бұрын
Even if you disregard the other movies, remakes, etc... I seem to remember that the darker the lion's mane, the older the lion was. So I've always wondered why Mufasa, with his gold-red mane, was king.
@guildwarrior3232
@guildwarrior3232 Жыл бұрын
the color of a lion's mane isn't necessarily an indication of age. Yes, they can darken as they grow older, but it's not like ALL black-furred lions are elders; genetics vary. Funnily enough, dark-maned males seem to be more attractive to females than their lighter-maned rivals, according to a 2002 study
@doktorhyena
@doktorhyena Жыл бұрын
Actually, hyenas are significantly more efficient at hunting than lions. Lions steal from hyenas A LOT more frequently than hyenas do from lions.
@TMP200000
@TMP200000 Жыл бұрын
Those books are not canon though and so nothing in them can be regarded as truth in the Disney lion universe. Lion Guard is considered canon and so whatever is in that as well as the movies are how Disney actually made it.
@monsterhighandbarbiefan
@monsterhighandbarbiefan Жыл бұрын
poor scar his health affected his actions and made him sad
@channingpappe2876
@channingpappe2876 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t Mufasa try to keep Scar around as a loving brother and only get serious to Scars threats? At least in the movies? Between that and the acceptance as king it doesn’t seem like he was shunned as far as the movies go.
@LadyDragoncat
@LadyDragoncat Жыл бұрын
With all this in mind, can you please explain NUKA (and VITANI)? Nuka looked a lot like Scar, although even more sickly. Poor soul.
@carolyncarnahan960
@carolyncarnahan960 Жыл бұрын
Actually Kovu and Scar look identical. Kovu has the exact same body color, eye color and mane color as Scar.
@Fantasygirl2001
@Fantasygirl2001 Жыл бұрын
@@carolyncarnahan960 I don't know about that Kovu's mane more closely resembles a member of Rani's family and Zira strikes me as a lion who would do anything to get ahead including stealing a cub from it's real family and encouraging Scar to raise it as his own.
@carolyncarnahan960
@carolyncarnahan960 Жыл бұрын
@@Fantasygirl2001 please answer this with a response cuz I'm really asking and please let me know whether or not you got this message: have you seen The Lion King 2: Simba's Pride? Cuz they show Kovu changing into Scar in Simba's dream. And who is Rani? And what makes you think Nuka Vitani and Kovu aren't Zira's biological cubs? Please explain
@Fantasygirl2001
@Fantasygirl2001 Жыл бұрын
@@carolyncarnahan960 watch the lion guard season three all the way to the end since they have canonized that series as part of the lion king shows or at least the animated one and in that show you will see what I mean that kovu shares a lot of the same features as members of rani's family ans spoiler alert Rani is kion's love interest at the end of the lion guard season three.
@carolyncarnahan960
@carolyncarnahan960 Жыл бұрын
@@Fantasygirl2001 please answer this with a response cuz I'm really asking and please let me know whether or not you got this message: does Kion grow up at all during The Lion Guard or does he stay a cub throughout the series
@baliyae
@baliyae Жыл бұрын
Didn’t Scar father Nuka and Vitani, though?
@thatthieff
@thatthieff Жыл бұрын
...There's ...a lot of Lion-family-unit stuff not taken into consideration in this theory. Like that the female lions hunt. Scar wouldn't be hunting either way.
@heatherford-wilson6743
@heatherford-wilson6743 Жыл бұрын
Scar had cancer that's why he never gained any weight but he was able to father nuka
@c.d.dailey8013
@c.d.dailey8013 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. In real life, lion prides often have more than one male lion lion. There wold be two of them. There may even be a few. These males tend to be brothers, and they share the harem of lionesses. A male lion would be nurturing to all the cubs. Lions can't do DNA testing. So a male lion can't tell his sons from nephews and his daughters from neices. Even then the newphews and neices still pass off the genes to some extent. So Scar being murderous to Simba is very unusual. He made two assasination attampts. The first was the Elephant Graveyard. The second was the stampede. The third was the hyena attack immediatly after the stampede. This video has a theory on Scar being sickly. This does explain Scar's situation very well. The infertility can explain why everybody knows that Simba is Mufasa's son instead of Scar's son. It does help that Simba and Mufasa do look really similar. In adulthood, both are nearly identical. As a cub, Simba may even looked just like Mufasa, when he was a cub. That may have brought up bad memories and resentment in Scar. In Harry Potter, Snape is mean to Harry a lot. There is backstory. Hary had Lily and James Potter as his parents. Snape had a love triangle with them when they were younger. Snape loved Lily. He hated James for being a rival. They competed over Lily. In the end James got the girl. Then Harry looks a lot like him. Snape would have been mean to Harry, because Harry's aperance brings up bad memories of James and the love triangle. Snape does seem so resentful. Maybe Scar resents Simba in the same way. I wouls like to give a little correction. Hyenas are full blown hunters in real life. Almost all of what they eat is suff they hunted themselves. So if Scar was with the hyenas, he would have still eaten well. He may even be just as well off food wise with the hyenas as he would with the other lions.
@KashimusPrime
@KashimusPrime Жыл бұрын
I was, at first interested, but then when you dropped the Tale of Two Brothers, you lost me. That's published fanfiction. Everyone should know that.
@CorRavenlock
@CorRavenlock Жыл бұрын
That theory doesn't add up. In the original deleted scenes it shows scar talking about needing a mate after he took over pride land. He chose Nala to be his queen which she rejected, due to that rejection she got banished by scar. The remaining lionesses refused also to mate with scar. At first tho, the directors thought of scar having a hyena as mate but that would have been awkward and creepy. Anyway, the reason why scar is depicted as "thin" and "smaller" is because he's a villain. Aren't all villains in Disney classics rather thin? Also scar would be superior in reality as his dark mane would be more attractive to females. Besides, if the lion king would be strictly based on real life lions then sweet home Alabama is not far
@einat1622
@einat1622 Жыл бұрын
Nuka from TLK2 was Scar's biological son and he looked more sickly than Scar (not 100% sure about Vitani, but she might have been as well).
@ashisgod
@ashisgod Жыл бұрын
What the Hades is this hot mess of a comment section?
@BrodisWorld
@BrodisWorld Жыл бұрын
Hate to put a wrench in that uh theory but didnt Scar have two children? Nuka and Vitani? Vitani it being questioned whether or not scar hurt nala in order to obtain a child?
@troymacdonald8257
@troymacdonald8257 Жыл бұрын
Than don't. It's just a movie. Go Disney 😎💙
@Kokuei13
@Kokuei13 Жыл бұрын
Nuka was sickly though so may prove Scar having some type of illness. And could still prove the fertility issue since he literally only successfully had 2 cubs in all that time.
@WildKat25
@WildKat25 Жыл бұрын
Nuka just comments that Kovu's father wasn't Scar. However, Nuka never comments that Scar was his Father. When Nuka argues that he should have been the chosen one, his argument is focused on the fact that he is "older and stronger" not that he is the legitimate heir as Scar's son. Vitani and Kovu are from the same litter, so if Kovu's father isn't Scar, neither is Vitani's.
@BrodisWorld
@BrodisWorld Жыл бұрын
@@WildKat25 fair point. I don't think we will ever get confirmation or denial of the lineage of Nuka and Vitani
@user-kl5zd2oe3e
@user-kl5zd2oe3e Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure there were cubs off camera. Simba killed them all, like a real lion. For reals now, there's a deleted scene where he tries to get with Nala.
@Finlandmapper124
@Finlandmapper124 6 ай бұрын
Don't sound like simba even tho that would what a normal lion would do but he was trying to get with nala shows he could have children because whats the point of making nala your mate if he can't even mate
@maeakin94
@maeakin94 Жыл бұрын
Scar was so thin because he was giving part of his food to the hyenas seen when he gives them his zebra leg
@allenkeith7160
@allenkeith7160 Жыл бұрын
Tapeworms maybe?
@ChronomonHM
@ChronomonHM Жыл бұрын
Counter-theory: Lionesses prefer males with darker manes because darker manes mean higher levels of testosterone. Realistically, Scar should've been king the whole time and had dozens of cubs.
@joshualowe959
@joshualowe959 Жыл бұрын
That is also why the lioness Kiara was attracted to the dark maned male lion Kovu
@RyanTheDark
@RyanTheDark Жыл бұрын
In an alternative timeline where Taka was born first, the stronger between the two brothers, and Ahadi chose Taka, it is likely that Taka and his mate (whom I presume would have been Zira, Sarafina, or even Sarabi) would have had a lot more cubs. A weaker Mufasa would have likely only one or two cubs if he was somehow able to mate with SOMEONE.
@Jackson_Christ1
@Jackson_Christ1 Жыл бұрын
If this is true I’m gonna Cry and Scream my lungs out😭 scar’s my favourite DISNEY VILLIAN!!!!
@Loku242
@Loku242 Жыл бұрын
The theory of your operates under the assumption that Scar has an illness that debilitated him to where he couldn't hunt for food. This is the part of the theory that falls apart right off the bat. Scar may have been weaker than his older brother, sure, but Scar was easily strong enough to hunt for food. He amassed an army of hyenas bit by bit over the years by using his food catches as leverage to control them. He offered up a zebra thigh to three yeens as a 'reward they didn't deserve', and judging by the yeens' reactions, this isn't the first time Scar has done this. He may not have any cubs of his own because none in the pride want anything to do with him either because he was the weakest of the lions or because Scar was generally unpleasant that only yeens could put up with him. As for a disease that was slowly killing him. I strongly disagree for the reasons above. Weakness isn't a disease. Scar was the weakest of the pride, but even so, he's still a lion at the top of the food chain.
@Drakewolf145
@Drakewolf145 Жыл бұрын
The lion guard was confirmed to be canon but the book was not.
@RavenWoodsDE
@RavenWoodsDE Жыл бұрын
As a male he wouldn't hunt for himself.
@punkbeluga5091
@punkbeluga5091 7 ай бұрын
This just makes me think "Ooh, it would have been such a good detail if under Scar's rules the lionesses lost weight and Scar gained some mass"
@Izmeh-ronz
@Izmeh-ronz Жыл бұрын
He wasn’t, he got bit my a snake ‘lion guard”
@drogo1913
@drogo1913 7 ай бұрын
Both the video and several of everyone’s comments make sense and very valid points to Scar’s character development and terminal illness and the debating factors of his origins based off actual lions and human behavior and that Nuka and Vitani were his actual cubs from Zira, unfortunately Nuka inherited much of his sickness and that landed his position as the “Goat” despite being the eldest. I also agree that, as harsh and unfair as it is in human terms….it’s a fact/law of nature that applies within any animal species, that the strength, resilience and intelligence of the said animal will determine their abilities to adapt and survive either alone as solitary predators/prey or as a valuable asset to the herd, pack, pride, troop, etc. Those who are too sickly and unable to hunt or produce healthy offspring are too big a liability to ensure the group’s survival and are therefore ousted by the group.
@Idealgame806
@Idealgame806 Жыл бұрын
The song be prepared throws out the theory that the hyena's fit scar plus it was always scar that fed them. Also, MattPat's theory states that scar wasn't alpha. Based on the type of lion he was. So no I don't think it was because of illness or being weak and inferior I think scar was just evil
@7Celestron
@7Celestron Жыл бұрын
Fun fact about real lions, black manes are more desirable to females but are also an indicator of low fertility.
@lil.lucid999
@lil.lucid999 10 ай бұрын
I coulda sworn scar had one cub with Zira, Nuka was his only son
@jessicagreen7711
@jessicagreen7711 6 ай бұрын
I don't like hyenas at all because of scar
@jorgepaniagua2831
@jorgepaniagua2831 Жыл бұрын
That’s so sad 😭
@troymacdonald8257
@troymacdonald8257 Жыл бұрын
It's only a movie. Go Disney 😎💙
@gabrieladerre2862
@gabrieladerre2862 Жыл бұрын
I also love that Scar had a black mane, which would make him the Lion version of peak Brad Pitt! So I also always thought that he probably couldn't reproduce.
@amywakefield1828
@amywakefield1828 Жыл бұрын
scar did have one cub nuka but the illness would make sense since nuka was skinny just like his dad scar.
@agentmaryland1239
@agentmaryland1239 Жыл бұрын
On the topic of how long it was before Simba finally returned, lions typically grow from cub to mature lion in about 4 years. So it's anywhere between 2 to 4 years as the most likely answer.
@Rashinnu
@Rashinnu Жыл бұрын
Would have been closer to 4, two year old males don't have that kind of mane development that simba had.
@cortezanderson8656
@cortezanderson8656 Жыл бұрын
Scar had two kids and one adopted son in The Lion King 2 movie
@buddyzilla4557
@buddyzilla4557 Жыл бұрын
Another reason that fits this is if he had a waisting disease. This would explain his physically weaker form due to the malnutrition. It could be less about him starving due to his physically weaker form but the reverse. His body can't properly absorb or process the nutrition he gets so it stays emaciated and stunted.
@rebeccawilliams4485
@rebeccawilliams4485 Жыл бұрын
im sorry no but scar can have cubs vitani and nuka are his biological cubs or at the very least nuka was kovu was adopted but nuka is his and i beilive vitaini is based off all movies and shows
@st4rs_lux
@st4rs_lux Жыл бұрын
The thing with scar not having cubs would be confusing if they kept the deleted scene "The madness of scar" where he asks nala to be his mate- :b
@marisokami5259
@marisokami5259 Жыл бұрын
dang you really gotta get into literary analysis, how can you NOT bring up scar as a queercoded villain? the only disease he has is being terminally gay. that's why he isn't interested in women, any bisexuality is not as canon as him being not interested in anyone, you just made the lions ableist instead of homophobic, not to mention this is the first i've heard about this and i doubt there's any actual evidence of it, oh also the live action movies are not retroactively canon, it's more of a split timeline situation. lion king's lore is all about split canon, every seperate story is its own thing with deleted material suggesting things but never proving it, kovu is deffinitely not scar's son but they sure treat him like he is, they just don't want to give kids the idea to date their cousins, did zira fall or let go off the cliff? it's clear there's a cut in the footage because she let go but they cut it out because it was too dark, zira's pride doesn't appear or is mentioned in lion king 1 at all, i do admit it's an interesting lens to look at it but it just doesn't go that far
@Wren40
@Wren40 Жыл бұрын
Possible illness is a very good theory.
@Shooting-gallery223
@Shooting-gallery223 Жыл бұрын
Aha so that’s why scar was evil in the first place
@MetalMaiden4585CFH
@MetalMaiden4585CFH 3 ай бұрын
All I know is that Scar was my first Villain.. I felt bad for him as a kid.. I felt bad for him as an adult ..
@blissypastell8304
@blissypastell8304 Жыл бұрын
But what about nuka and vitani from the lion king 2?
@beastgamer3113
@beastgamer3113 Жыл бұрын
if you use scars backstory in lion gaurd it makes sense in the lion gaurd kion got a scar like scar which also had poison but eventually treated it but scar didnt get a treatment for his it could also be why he has a supperiority complex cause the scar also affected kions personality meaning scars supperiority complex probably wasnt that bad cuz if you think about it the roar was only given to lions that are humble, proud and pure so if scar was given the roar that means he was humble, proud,pure so it pretty much adds up
@ArtandSoul2381
@ArtandSoul2381 Жыл бұрын
Nuka and Vitani was Scar's cubs with Zira. These conspiracy theories are really bogus at some point and over the edge.
@carolinecheney
@carolinecheney Жыл бұрын
That makes a lot of sense.
@RebeccaJeffersonOAC
@RebeccaJeffersonOAC Жыл бұрын
So my question would be the Outlanders. Did they have any relation to the Lion Guard and was there a deeper reason why they were despised by Mufasa/Simba's pride?
@joshualowe959
@joshualowe959 Жыл бұрын
Scar did have a cub with Zira: Nuka
@mirandawillie6909
@mirandawillie6909 Жыл бұрын
He did have a cub with Zira and that is Nuka Vitani and Kovu were adopted by Zira and Scar after he died Zira was the one who took care of the three cubs
@rancidiot
@rancidiot 6 ай бұрын
Disney ain't that deep bro
@GRIGGINS1
@GRIGGINS1 Жыл бұрын
Just like what the Jedi did to Anakin. The Lions of Pride Rock made Scar a Sith.
@aeoifjapefijl
@aeoifjapefijl Жыл бұрын
just a little nitpick, music is a wee loud for your narration. Other than that nice video, very informative ^^
@Bullet2Bit
@Bullet2Bit Жыл бұрын
But Scar did have a cub, Nuka
@DoriansPortrait
@DoriansPortrait Жыл бұрын
Music name please.
@Anonymityfan
@Anonymityfan 3 ай бұрын
I don't think that Scar was shunned. Mufasa expected to see him at Simba's ceremony, it seemed like Scar resented Mufasa and wanted space to scheme
@osmosisjones4912
@osmosisjones4912 Жыл бұрын
What was his illness
@Andaer11
@Andaer11 Жыл бұрын
Also doesnt Nala have green eyes (scars) and Simba has orange amber which is mufassa’s
@kairi4640
@kairi4640 Жыл бұрын
Honestly makes sense. I know people don't like sympathetic villains at times, some people just want them to be evil beyond redemption like Jack Horner for no reason other than to be evil. But I've always felt sympathetic villains made things more realistic and interesting. Though these days, people being evil for no reason than they love being wicked, is becoming a standard... 😮‍💨
@alexandratheavenger3436
@alexandratheavenger3436 Жыл бұрын
I think your hypothesis is solid.
@brownsugr111
@brownsugr111 Жыл бұрын
What is this background music.
@Jay-p4t8q
@Jay-p4t8q Жыл бұрын
Nuka in my pov is scars son, he and zira had him, vitani and kovu are from different parents, but nice video. 👌
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@brandonscott5544 Жыл бұрын
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