How the Sexual Revolution Affected Men | Louise Perry

In this clip, Louise outlines the impact that the sexual revolution had on men, in particular. She makes the case that although some men benefited, or at least had a greater ability to live as they pleased, on the whole, this came at the cost of the majority of men.
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Louise Perry is a journalist and author based in London, UK. She is a columnist for UnHerd, a featured writer for the Daily Mail, and hosts Maiden Mother Matriarch, a podcast about sexual politics.
Louise is the author of the landmark book, 'The Case Against the Sexual Revolution: A New Guide to Sex in the 21st Century,' published by Polity."
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[@jamesbeam5373]

2:20 Whether she has just realised, or she’s trying to navigate around it, she too is concentrating on the top 10% of men. John asked: “ where are all the good men?”. Her response: “ They’re running around being Hugh Hefner’s”. If she wasn’t preoccupying her time with high status men, she would see the ground swell of “good men” available who don’t get seen.

[@user-yc5um2pl5v]

She's very good-looking, easily in the top tier of women, and is also intellectual, so she has no business doubting her right to a high-status man. After all it's not like she'll ever consider marrying a truck driver or a warehouse worker (regardless of their intellectual, physical or other qualities). Oh, the plight of a fit and/but brainy bird! 😁

[@user-jz6pq4zx3e]

May be sarcasm from her. Not sure.

[@toweypat]

@@user-jz6pq4zx3e I doubt it.

[@Reallgeemachine]

She doesnt deserve anything. A high iq highly educated woman has a much more difficult time getting a mate than an average woman. They price themselves out of the dating market.@@user-yc5um2pl5v

[@gregoryporch8395]

We grew up with mothers and grandmas who really believed in right and wrong & had a sense of mercy, the women my age had none of those virtues & fought for their own aggrandizement. It made getting laid competitive and we had to cast aside the sensitive traits of the "nice guy" we always believed the world should be kinder to.

[@thehowlingmisogynist9871]

Women got lazy. Previously, it was the woman who had to build and maintain the relationship. However, they got lazy and dumped that task onto men - who were not brought up or trained for the task.

[@RobertJohnson_Zeppo]

There are no winners in this particular human pursuit. Plenty of liars, no winners.

[@civildiscourse7626]

Desirable men win

[@chrispekel5709]

Chad wins

[@Macheako]

@@civildiscourse7626 funny thing about desirable guys…. Even before feminism, a lot of em were desired…..and even now, after feminism 😂❤ So those guys KINDA always just win a little 😂😂

[@KidRipable]

less then 10% of men have been winning ever since

[@Phasma6969]

It's not a win for Chad if he is left with the scraps of others, Chad or not lol. This is just a zero sum game, even for the women.

[@BenHameen33]

"Where are all the good men?" "They're all enjoying being Hugh Hefners" Reacting from the gut, she showed that she believes the "good men" are the very attractive, wealthy men, regardless of personality or morals. Very insightful

[@mylesg7278]

Because that's all she's attracted to by her very nature, hypergamy 101

[@libertarian_ramblings]

Not really. It's more that _you_ are assuming that the 'good men' by definition are _not_ enjoying being 'Hugh Hefners'. But Louise Perry never suggested that she sees playing the field as immoral or indicative of a poor personality.

[@BenHameen33]

@MrJFColt That's exactly my point. "Good man" to most people is someone who will commit, provide, be decent to her, etc. A "good man" to her and many other woman is a man who is at the top percentile in terms of looks and wealth, regardless of their other traits. There's a disconnect between people when defining a "good man" in the context of asking the question "Where have all the good men gone?", and the answer to that question depends on your definition

[@gregoryporch8395]

​​@@libertarian_ramblingsShe didn't say anything one way or another about character or personality; it was a very materialistic take on what makes a good man.

[@JulietCrowson]

Talking out of her elbow

[@ceooflonelinessinc.267]

She basically failed to understand the core of this problem, which is that an average man, who does his best in life, is not able to recive romantic contact.

[@heroldjaras9909]

Noone cares about men , thats the biggest problem

[@es7990]

A woman’s opinion on dating and about men is entirely useless from a healthy male perspective.

[@kaj7135]

Useless to anybody with a functional brain.

[@sup9542]

Agreed. I’ve never heard anything insightful from these anti-feminist women. I’m glad they see through the BS but they have no sharp insights. The best thinkers to listen to are always men, have always been and will always be, that’s just the nature of the species.

[@RandomGuyyy]

"Particularly for women" is her go-to phrase.

[@christoph3187]

In this day in age it’s a mechanism to ensure she won’t be attacked too harshly. She’s already getting a lot of criticism, imagine she would openly say society is throwing a whole generation of men under the bus.

[@lovejunkie490]

@@christoph3187men through themselves under the bus. 100% of men are competing for like 5% of the women. Men from age 18 to 60+ are competing for women who are 18 to 25 (after she is a used good) and do you know what percentage of women represent 18 to 25 years old in America ? Excluded obese, it’s not even 10%

[@EmeraldaKasim]

@@lovejunkie490not even remotely true I implore you to read any study / stat on the subject

[@lovejunkie490]

@@EmeraldaKasim it is true. Men find women who are the most attractive between 18 and 30 years. The speech of this society is that women who are 30+ are used goods, rotten goods. That’s why dating after 30 is harder for women and most women who are 30+ and don’t have a partner is more likely to stay single and never marry or have children, despite the fact that they still are fertile. Women age between 18 to 30 represent 10% of women’s population. Excluded overweight and it’s like 7%. So most men (men between 18 to 50+) which represent 80% of the male population, chase only 7% of women.

[@ROForeverMan]

​@@lovejunkie490Whimin are the ones that go for top 20% men.

[@beehive5835]

Even if all the 20% high status, over 6 feet tall, 6-figure income, attractive, physically fit men were to get married, that only means that 20% of women would be married unless those men married multiple women.

[@nikokapanen82]

Yes, but this was the whole point in this conversation that in today's society, where getting married is no longer a norm, the top 10-20% of men are getting all the women and the rest are pretty much getting none. You see how it goes. Since it is no longer about lifelong committed marital relationship, it is all about some short time, maybe a few weeks lasting fun and then both go different paths, women are naturally seeking the best of men for such fun, they do not want average nobodies, and therefore the best looking the best earning men have lots of women to have fun with. Many women remain single most of the time because they are seeking only for the best of men who are most of the time dating other women but then, from time to time, they get to date them as well because the best of men changes their dates all the time. Yet the average nobodies are then left without women completely. So, most women are dating but only occasionally when they get the opportunity to get the best of men but when it comes to men, the best of them is dating all the time but the lowest ones are dating nobody at all. This is of course a raw exaggeration but the statistics show that this is becoming more and more real for more and more men.

[@keeroe2020]

@@nikokapanen82 Pretty much true throughout history. This is why Ghenghis Khan, Mehmed Sultan II, etc. had harems, and royalty tracked bloodlines. Only now women willingly join the hive.

[@CoIdestMoments]

6ft and >100k/y is 2.6% of population btw, not even close to 20%

[@brent4073]

Even those top 20% guys get divorced too, I've seen a couple get divorced when they lost their job. They are not immune either.

[@metsfanal]

​@@CoIdestMoments I fit that description and got ghosted by the only 4 girls I've gotten numbers from this year. Even if you're in that 2% it's not enough.

[@paulwary]

The language here is priceless. She says that when given complete freedom, "people" choose polygyny. "People" do not choose it, women choose it, and her otherwise correct explanation describes that quite clearly. Then she says that this is bad for women especially, ignoring the disenfranchised men. Never ceases to amaze me, but there are indeed some things that women's brains are simply unable to process, and you see it demonstrated time and time again.

[@bobhill4364]

Lol they lack emotional intelligence, empathy and compassion.

[@bobhill4364]

In her defense, how can she admit the truth? Men are meant to 'rule over' their wives. The logical conclusion of what she's saying is that women are incapable of leading their own lives and need their fathers and then husbands to tell them what to do. She would have to admit the patriarchy is a good thing for women.

[@r.walker7986]

The thing is the whole argument she is making tethering women to motherhood so fiercely only harms men, it ultimately leads men to spend all their lives away from the families she claims are so important while women get to wallow in motherhood and be provided for financially indefinitely. She's completely self centered. Some women dont want to be away from their kids so they are fighting tooth and nail to secure a system where they can get sponsored...This is why women like her hate feminism, they don't want to be responsible for themselves.

[@timothyofcox2450]

I love her womansplaining the male experience here. Talk about privilege.

[@jonahtwhale1779]

No - they just reserve their compassion etc for themselves and other women.

[@jkbrown5496]

Interesting how she avoided addressing the average man who is ignored by most women. An where the 'good men' have gone is invisible to most women. Even more so because those good guys took MeToo to heart and don't want to be a source of distress to a woman. But since everything can be "creepy" or "aggressive" to a woman, the only rational path for a man who doesn't want to feel he's distressed a women is to just leave them alone. So the women get more of the men who aren't "good", i.e., who don't care about a woman not wanting their approach, approaching.

[@floatingvirago]

She mentioned poor single men , you were the ones who benefited when the rich men could only have one wife.

[@1donniekak]

Women approach me more at 43 than they did at 23.

[@tractordirt]

Question addresses @ 3:10

[@fmagalhaes1521]

That is because accountability is her kryptonite to paraphrase the late Kevin Samuels.

[@Maculis19]

Your mistake is listening to women

[@craigfrober316]

Ah yes. "Women most affected" once again.

[@theroamingsavage8813]

Of course, it's the "women asked for something, women got something, women regret their decision, men are to blame" yet again.

[@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc]

Yup. Nowt else to add.

[@tractordirt]

@@theroamingsavage8813 I didn’t hear the “men are to blame” part here. Seemed she held feminism accountable.

[@ratnakordosshu6291]

Yes, because when women only get one men in there lifetime, fully dependent on husband, husband also mistreated them, many time violently. So women want better solution. Male scientists make birth control pills. That help them women to become financially independent. My grandmother had 8 kids, 2 miscarriage. All of her life she just doing this rasing kid. But all the kids get my grand father names, but grand am doing all the sacrifices. No one asking for anything. Because of evolution of science many new things invented. Because of war and finance men women way of life changes. Stop blaming.

[@sarahrobertson634]

We're the ones who matter

[@PeterZeeke]

"Where are all the good men?" "They're enjoying being Hugh Hefners" This answer is 100% totally wrong and why things are messed up. She told on herself there.

[@metsfanal]

Lol right, women cannot conceive of considering the average man as "good." 🤮

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

Good men are not the Hugh Hefner type

[@jasonlee8156]

@@wyleecoyotee4252 Only the playboy types are

[@lovejunkie490]

@@jasonlee8156not at all. The playboys are for pump and dump for money women. They will sleep with these men but never marry them.

[@Fuk99999]

Watch a video longer than 6 minutes and you’ll learn that she thinks Hugh Hefner’s life was one of extended adolescence thanks to his promiscuous lifestyle. And that it wasn’t a good thing for him

[@DC_PRL]

An average guy can mess around into his 30s with multiple flings and then look for to start a family. But most don’t…Feminism told women they can do the same, hence an epidemic of posts wall spinsters with unrealistic expectations and difficulties of pair bonding. There’s no way of fixing this…we live in a hedonistic, selfish society

[@r.walker7986]

Women are not trying to start families with old men anymore, only older women... So sure, a guy can do that but don't think there are gonna be a bunch of young girls who want them and if they do is financially motivated.

[@DC_PRL]

@@r.walker7986 lol, it's always financially motivated. Check out your divorce rates in this country... it's a dumpster fire

[@franmorrison1080]

all fulfilling what was prophesied 2 millenia ago: 2 Timothy 3 - But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God- 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.

[@r.walker7986]

@@franmorrison1080 people have always been that way.

[@r.walker7986]

@@DC_PRL no, some guys are genuinely liked for who they are by women.

[@hrhbucket4268]

"For the power of Man to make himself what he pleases means, as we have seen, the power of some men to make other men what they please." - C.S.Lewis, The Abolition of Man.

[@theroamingsavage8813]

Oh look, it's the random quote guy!

[@deanpd3402]

@@theroamingsavage8813 That's very clever of you to pick that.

[@andrea-mj9ce]

What does this mean?

[@BWater-yq3jx]

​@@andrea-mj9ce I interpret it as If you become rich and powerful, you can tell other people what to do.

[@Brujo2016]

I’ve been speaking out on these issues since 2015. After two disastrous failed relationships, i realized on how much feminism has negatively impacted our society.

[@technoloverish]

Do you consider yourself an incel?

[@Brujo2016]

@@technoloverish Why because I speak the truth? I pull women bro. Don't be a simp.

[@technoloverish]

@@Brujo2016 You think allow women to be employed, choose who they marry, etc is being a simp?

[@kentfrederick8929]

I've been the stay-at-home parent for 20 years, while my wife of 27 years has gotten her Master's and Ph.D and moved along in corporate America.

[@jaqen7122]

@@technoloverish How narcissist and close-minded your life must be, if you try to shame every person on earth, who has a different opinion than your own

[@mr.raslyon6626]

This is what women wanted.

[@secretagent4610]

They opened Pandora's box, they ate the fruit from the tree. Ecclesiasticus 25:24

[@peterpalashevky7423]

This is contradictory. Marilyn Monroe was not destroyed because of her promiscuity. It was part if her image and she rode the carousel for a long time and played it up. However. She did die under mysterious circumstances tied to the Kennedy brothers.

[@steve3131]

For someone who habitually arrived on movie sets 2 to 5 hours late, and who took direction from her drama coach rather than the director, she had an amazingly long run. She was incredibly unprofessional, however talented she may have been. And certainly no man would get away with what "poor Marilyn" did.

[@davidz3879]

She died of a barbiturate overdose, probably not intended to be fatal. She probably just wanted a long sleep.

[@normangoldstuck8107]

She was seriously ill with endometriosis for most of her adult life and the treatments we have today were not available then.@@steve3131

[@josec.6394]

It is a complete disaster. I never had a relationship and I know I never will, something that everyone should be able to experience at least once will never come to me

[@John-Brown]

Hang in there! You can probably find someone. Are you a guy? What is your approximate age?

[@Rockownz5150]

um, you're not entitled to that, sweatie

[@markclans3284]

It will happen. When you stop chasing it

[@jjhosseiny]

Consider yourself lucky. All the things you think your missing out on is just a mirage meant to trap you. You are free! Go do whatever you want

[@1donniekak]

Move out of a city. Stop using your phone to “meet” people, and start living in the real physical world. Everything will get better.

[@pottersmiles7238]

She can't resist delivering the women victim line. Marilyn Monroe 🙈

[@drewyetti]

She’s a feminist after all.

[@samst-louis9389]

AWALT

[@CordeliaWagner]

Yeah a woman with a long history of getting abused ending herself is such a strong winner.... Yikes

[@pottersmiles7238]

@@CordeliaWagner you've completely missed the point and given a response that must highlight one single example of a female victim in an area of discussion which is always eroded by men very women, men bad women victim.

[@samst-louis9389]

@@pottersmiles7238 They are too entitled to understand that. Like you said, men bad, always.

[@billionaireinvestor]

Women, always the victims even though they choose the Chads and Ray Rays... They choose who has access to them yet they are the victims 🤷‍♂️🤦

[@lovejunkie490]

Not women* the top 10% of women yes.

[@Bootyeater999]

@@lovejunkie490no all women choose who they play with most aren’t getting married😂

[@kaj7135]

@@lovejunkie490100% of women. You left out a zero there.

[@lovejunkie490]

@@kaj7135 women who are between 18 and 30 years old, excluded overweight and married/in relationships/mothers represent only 10% of women population ! It means that 90% of women don’t fit your criteria and expectations. The rise of lonely men is a joke! You did that to yourself. When were you were 25 and these women were 20 to 25 ?

[@anthonydowney6069]

​@@kaj7135I think her/his channels give a clue to their attitude

[@sophist4u]

This person still blames men. Feminists have pushed for laws that benefit women in relationships. Men are avoiding relationships to avoid false allegations or being subject to family courts, not because they want to hoe around.

[@goweresque]

The massive elephant in the room that she studiously avoids is the divorce laws. The reason men are not bothering with marriage and long term relationships is not only that they want to 'play the field' (thats certainly a part of it at younger ages) its that there is absolutely nothing in LTRs for men. If you are married you can be divorced in an instant against your will, lose access to your kids and half (or more) of your assets. If you are not married you can still lose access to your children, though you make keep more of your assets (though feminists are working on that little problem). This is why men aren't entering LTRs, even when they get to ages that most would probably fancy settling down - LTRs and marriage are fundamentally biased in favour of women, and men have noticed. The only way to win is not to play the game........

[@DD-xw6uw]

Before divorce was easy to access a man knew that marriage kinda meant he had her for life. He knew it would take something big for her to get divorce. That made the man feel more comfortable into entering the marriage. LTR’s are long term investments, and the more you’re going to invest into something the bigger the rewards need to be. In business would a company accept a deal where they might spends millions of dollars only for the other side to easily leave it at a whim? No, unless there was an good insurance policy

[@johnwatts8346]

she (of course) neglects to mention equal rights for women very much led us here as well.

[@edwhatshisname3562]

I haven't had a relationship and all that entails in 13 years, not even casual stuff. When I get "the itch", I simply pop into my stash for a few minutes, take care of business, and then go on about my day. It's a lot easier and cost effective than the alternative, though the alternative would be better.

[@secretagent4610]

Better how? Mind games, usury, cheating, lack of communication, dishonesty, divorce, alimony, kids taken away, child support, monkey branching, vindictiveness, manipulation, using vulnerability against you, psycho behavior? Because this is what you're going to get with most women these days. Even good looking high status guys have to deal with this regularly. You hear them talk about it all the time. Just because a woman is into you doesn't mean she's not going to bring drama into your life.

[@sned_dunes]

​@@secretagent4610cope

[@barryfaulkner7032]

I think young women are being led to believe that they can play the field for years until they want to settle down and start a family. However this devalues them almost as much as having children when it comes time for men to select a mother for their children because only a fool would expect any women these days to be a lifelong partner. If you want one to stick around till the kids are grown that would be the best modern men would think possible.

[@rokasdobrovolskis]

Only a fool? Stick around till the kids are grown? Pfft. Don't have any children then with such a twisted mindset. Ffs

[@bobhill4364]

They aren't being led to believe anything. They are rebellious. They are being told they can do whatever they want despite what men and more importantly, God wants. They've already leveraged themselves into forcing men to provide for kids that aren't theirs thru govt largesse, and will continue to push for more of the same, right up to using the govt to force men to marry them.

[@r.walker7986]

the alternative is generally pouring themselves into a home and children that one day will be all gone along with their husbands and they will have to start from the bottom to make something of themselves as older ladies...

[@parrotshootist3004]

@@r.walker7986 if they're deranged and disconnected from reality, that's a reasonable concern. Who does the divorcing?

[@1donniekak]

I’d rather have a 27 year old single mom than a 35 year old childless career woman any day.

[@vincelorino4394]

I remember being a kid in the 90s and connecting these dots; I also vividly remember a group of women grabbing me by my shoulders, forcing me down into a sitting position, encircling me and quite literally refusing to let me leave until I renounced what I discovered and started parroting their feminist talking points. That's all I needed to know. The reason that women in their 30s and 40s can't find good men? Is because those same good men now in their 30s and 40s can do what they couldn't do when they were ages 21 through 25 AKA sleep with women that are aged 21 through 25. Women love to rub it in men's faces that they get to do everything and anything and have all the power in their teenage and twenties however they always forget that all the gifts that mother nature gives them in their teens and twenties? Father time starts taking away in their 30s and then that scale between men and women? Well, women start off at the top and they start gradually going down whereas Men start off at the bottom and start gradually going up. And don't get it twisted; most of us men do not pity these women at all. They had their time to shine, they had their chances. Go ahead and ask any of them; they had opportunities and plenty of male orbiters however they were young and hot and had plenty of time each one will tell you so they stiffed every guy that was worth a darn and instead chose to sleep around with Chad Brad Tyrone one Julio and whoever else was smooth enough to get in between their legs.

[@toddjohnson271]

word

[@ClayWeblogistics]

💯%

[@TheHerrUlf]

Yes

[@ducodarling]

It's a shame she has to struggle so much to say something so obvious.

[@redlight3932]

Morality is won by battling yourself the only thing these people battle are their phone batteries going below 10%

[@sned_dunes]

It's a harsh truth, and everyone, everywhere, will attack her for exposing it

[@LoboBlack187]

For now the outcome is worst for men, even a below average woman can find intimacy & temporary relationships/commitment. On the other hand, many men, get nothing, only true forced loneliness, zero intimacy. But, one day, yes, the outcome will be worst for women, when society finally collapses.

[@kaj7135]

Good. Let them all suffer. Women will have nobody to blame but themselves, but their simple brains will come up with a reason to blame men still. lol

[@longbeach225]

Today women will put these average men in the friend zone and still expect husband treatment from him while he gets nothing. Let society burn at this point.

[@holysmokes4493]

"true forced loneliness" I haven't heard those words in a long time. So much has changed since 2014.

[@TheHerrUlf]

Yes, they'ill have to quickly rediscover ancient feminine virtues, or they'll die

[@anjieobasa1871]

You got any actual data to back up that average women can find relationships and intimacy unlike men? Or are you simply stating your feelings?

[@guitarman0365]

The guy doesn't get. Good man doesn't mean character in this context. You could be a sociopath that loves nothing more than to run through women like nothing and you will still be a good man to those women while the actual good men on character won't be seen. Good on this context means good match genetically. Offering best chances of offspring survival. Whether you are a good person who goes to church loves their momma and stays out of trouble means nothing to your genetic quality. Stop thinking about good in terms of your character and you will stop being confused when women keep asking where good men are.

[@CogitoBcn]

👏👏👏👏👏

[@secretagent4610]

Classic womanese.

[@DJW1981]

Quite so. Morality/personality doesn't come into it anymore. It's totally about looks/height/wealth.

[@secretagent4610]

@@DJW1981 And then they wonder why they get played all the time by Chad lol. 🥴🤡

[@suppaduppa]

women dont think...they FEEEEEEEL@@secretagent4610

[@AdrienMelody]

“Where are all the good men?” “They’re all enjoying being Hugh Hefners” Did she really just say the ONLY good men are those with the bodies and bank accounts that afford them Hefner’s lifestyle? So 90-95% of ALL MEN aren’t good enough to have a relationship? That’s so cold…

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

Those aren't good men, they're rich men

[@AdrienMelody]

@@wyleecoyotee4252 Usually, yep 👍🏻

[@andrewd7112]

She lit up her own true beliefs and opinions like a neon sign, showing what she considers to be a desirable man. Let her talk long enough and a woman will tell you exactly who and what she is. A more correct answer would be "They're invisible to women who are instead choosing to believe lies from the Hugh Hefners".

[@andrea-mj9ce]

Timestamps?

[@andrea-mj9ce]

2:27

[@robertschlotte1124]

I noticed that she doesn’t mention “low status women”

[@kaj7135]

Because her sexism and narcissism would never allow her to admit that women are the real problem here. Asking a woman to give advice on women is the same as asking a fish how to catch fish.

[@toddjohnson271]

No accountability for women.

[@anthonydowney6069]

Yes but they do exist and they are the unattractive bottom 10 %and loads of them end up breeding half castes.

[@thetruther954]

I have no idea what this woman is trying to say. I’m not sure she does either. That’s where my Dad and I are different. I used to think, if I just listened hard enough, I could get anyone to make some sense. All I know with this woman is, if I fall without the desired status range, I don’t deserve a woman. The women are all sleeping with the same famous journalist somewhere. Whoever that is. Ok. That doesn’t sound good.

[@vincentdaniels7818]

🤣Can't get commitment from the top 10% guy that uses them like a pitstop = BLAME ALL MEN.

[@lovejunkie490]

Women who value family don’t want to commit to the top 10% of men. These dude are not father and husband material at all.

[@ROForeverMan]

​@@lovejunkie490Whimin dont want families anymore.

[@lovejunkie490]

@@ROForeverMan yes. There are women that want families and give birth everyday. They just want to creat family with a certain type of men (the type of men you belong too) because you are not father material. You don’t even know how to count, so it’s normal that no women want a family with you

[@MastaOfMonkeyDisasta]

​@@lovejunkie490It's all about what they can get, and how they feel.

[@lovejunkie490]

@@MastaOfMonkeyDisasta not necessarily. I’m objectively above average and I was young, I was courted by a lot of men that are considered as chads and made good amount of money. But these men were sleeping around, had a bad reputation and were pretty misogynist. That’s why I rejected them. No husband and father material at all.

[@kuifjehaddock5451]

Women talking about men. How to behave, how to look good, how to be (financial) atractive, etc ect. Well done feminists. Now, we unatractive " creeps" , can go our own way now. Again thanks. And by the way, AWALT. Cheers.

[@nativetexanful]

I've gone my own way. Did that over 30 years ago and I'm glad. If women don't want us, good!

[@gumdeo]

Indeed, being freed from parasites is a good thing.

[@RobertPool-nz5ss]

Thank God it happened now we Men have no directive to be miserable for a lifetime they have done us huge favor by putting it on sale for everyone at a fair price just pay and go...MGTOW

[@toddjohnson271]

And the majority of men losing will eventually tear everything down.

[@dre6289]

Only move that makes sense for them. The move that has the most incentive. That's why you don't see many polygamous societies anymore, they are unstable.

[@vincentdaniels7818]

🤣80% of women chasing and wanting commitment from the top 20% of men. 🎶🎵🎶 This is the end, my only friend The end of our elaborate plans, The end of everything that stands.

[@Cyrus992]

Certain 20% of men

[@SanityIsland]

I disagree with her about freedom. Freedom isn't always about freedom from, it can also be freedom to. We thought that throwing away restraint was freedom but in fact it enslaves people to dysfunction. It's a false freedom. Personal chosen restraint is a freedom to. One of the main problems I see is that society all our lives tells us what freedom is. In other words, it's always yes, not the freedom to say no. And at the same time, trains us away from our own instinctual conscience. Then we no longer trust this failsafe mechanism. We rely on every expert on the subject at hand, and inevitably go astray from ourselves.

[@bobhill4364]

Freedom is the right to restrain yourself. The radical left understands they must weaken your ability to control yourself so they can step in and gain full control.

[@melissadeloach8503]

Very well said. But I think Louise was making the same point. You said it more eloquently.

[@dennisrobinson8008]

Being in a good relationship gave the freedom of not having to interact with the single game.

[@KEDAMONO.]

I completely agree, there is definitely an underlying message of "Do it or you'll miss/be left out!" about everything. Its very short-term satisfaction focused

[@kaj7135]

@@KEDAMONO.There’s nothing more impatient and self-absorbed than a modern woman.

[@AlwaysHopeful87]

Sexualization and political control go together.

[@tjrrind1452]

If I could make one piece of technology not to exist, it would be the Birth Control Pill.

[@steve3131]

The unacknowledged danger is the damage of all that estrogen coursing through the water supply.

[@LorenzoMasterConnector]

Or social media

[@keeroe2020]

Hear hear!

[@FHIPrincePeter]

The Atom Bomb.

[@peterharrell7305]

I'd pick radio frequencies.

[@MrSunrise-]

"...much worse outcomes for the most vulnerable people, particularly women and children..." Well, actually, the outcomes for men tend to be even worse, but we ignore them because as long as a man is killed by a another man, it doesn't count. Culturally enforced monogamy, in my opinion, works primarily by reducing male-on-male violence. Stone-age societies show between 10 and 25% male combat losses (both within-group and inter-group).

[@skylinefever]

I often mention that back in ancient times, there weren't incels, because they didn't survive. Plagues, famines, and wars removed them.

[@funtecstudiovideos4102]

​@@skylinefeverthere were no incels because parents were organizing marriages for them when they were young..

[@Susurro]

And people who don't want to change love pointing fingers at the opposite gender. Yet the only person each of us can change is ourselves.

[@anthonydowney6069]

​​@@skylinefeverActually during the Black Death in Europe in the 14th and 15th centuries the mortality rate was higher amongst women and so subsequently there was an increase in young males entering monasteries.

[@TheFujiwuji]

4:17 on 2000 years of Christianity and our culture's belief in God... "which now, of course, we've mostly rejected"... that simple, flippant line explains their obliviousness to the entire problem. They're so in love with their own self-importance, pretentious pontificating and bloviating.

[@r.walker7986]

Christianity was used to exploit people for a really long time... making everyone suffer through pointless cyclical lives for the promise of pleasure in death....

[@gumdeo]

Exactly, man cannot live on bread alone...

[@ItsComplicatedChannel]

Legalizing prostitution would be a game changer but nobody wants to talk about that 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@augmenautus]

Didn't Hugh Hefner die still dating blond twin sisters while living in a mansion? We have to really stretch the definition of "sad and pathetic" there.

[@abramlittle7102]

None of those women really wanted him. He didn't grow old with any woman. He had to buy their attention.

[@funicon3689]

@@abramlittle7102thats every woman

[@skylinefever]

@@abramlittle7102 Bold of you to assume most men aren't stuck buying attraction.

[@abramlittle7102]

@@skylinefever feel sorry for yall. Cause women pay for what they want

[@Bootyeater999]

@@skylinefeverstats tell you otherwise 😂

[@Albemarle7]

The SR was wonderful for men with wealth and status. Not so good for the rest.

[@garywebster3585]

Outflanked by men pretending to be women. Did'nt see that coming did you. We are so crafty.

[@StimParavane]

Speak for yourself.

[@timothyofcox2450]

Men do everything better than women, even femininity.

[@ROForeverMan]

Amazing how she avoids to say that is whimin fault for only wanting Chad.

[@secretagent4610]

Goku dodging those accountability punches.

[@gumdeo]

Zero responsibility.

[@goldfishi5776]

The good men got married to the women at a point when pair bonding is optimal. we married at 18,19 but many individuals are incapable of a good long marriage. So if you've had a few bad marriages then be real it's a you problem🤷

[@r.walker7986]

you mean married girls when the girls were not accomplished or able to provide for themselves, knew who they were, and who they wanted to be and loaded them down with children that they would not be able to care for alone without a mans financing so they just stayed and suffered in silence becasue they had nowhere else to go?

[@jayc342009]

@@MW-ov8wi the ability to pair bond for women goes down with each failed relationship, it does for men too but not as dramatic.

[@ROForeverMan]

At 18 you are in highschool.

[@r.walker7986]

@@ROForeverMan yup. Men who know they bring nothing and are never going to be anything special seek to trap women before they have the good sense to doom themselves, luckily girls already have a bead on this long before 18 so its a waste of their time, they just don't know it...

[@phaeton01]

social media didnt ruin dating, it just revealed peoples true proclivities

[@JulietCrowson]

She's still learning Ask and older woman who's had more more experience in life. Marriage is good for divorce lawyers Love and mutual help is good for relationships. 🙏🕊️⛪

[@edpreston1635]

Why talk to a woman about how MEN have been affected? She wrote a book but she doesn't know.

[@secretagent4610]

Because normies hate listening to men talk about men's issues because men will actually tell the truth and point out where the real problems lie so they need a woman to present a semi true/semi false narrative to basically say "It's all men's/the patriarchy's/the Hugh Hefner's fault" so they can try to implement ways to somehow manipulate men to give women more of what they want which is everything. If they bring a man on, they'll just try to paint him in a corner and twist his words as the gynocracy matrix always does.

[@kaj7135]

Even when women aren’t the subject, their narcissism and ego forces them to make themselves the subject. They’re shamelessly pathetic that way.

[@OutnBacker]

It has been said that 10% of the fishermen catch 90% of the fish. And it's true as far as I have seen over 60+ years - both in fishing and in getting laid. The top 10% of men are attractive and confident. That's what 90% of women want, so the formula is transcendent. Like 10% of guys who fish, they attractive males are focused on being attracive, ans so, they know where to go to "fish." That means: Bars and other places where hookups are common.

[@nikokapanen82]

Yes, this modern way of living where marital relationship is no longer interesting but a few weeks lasting fun dating is very attractive made the best 10% of men to be overwhelmed with dating opportunities, then women to have sometimes the opportunity to date such a man because all the women need to share this best of men from time to time, therefore most women stay single most of the time, waiting for such a man to appear and then the average loser guys are left out of dating life completely.

[@OutnBacker]

@@nikokapanen82 I agree. And, there are enough 10% males to go around. I don't think the top 50% attractive females miss the 90% of the men who have given up. When it's Game Time, they don't care. These videos showing sad women complaining of the lack of 'good' men are just alligator tears. When the music starts and the lights are right, they couldn't care less if bar is full of 10 percenters who they know will be players. I have no solution for the young people today. It's cliche to simply say that "things have changed." It's way more than "things." There has been a seismic shift in civilzation, and I think it has a lot to do with the digital age. We've all been Blue Pilled.

[@lovejunkie490]

@@OutnBackermaybe if 90% of men won’t chase the top 10% of women, you won’t be in that situation. Your enemy is also other men on this story. Men that never wanted to settle down with women their age when they were 20 , 30 years old are now 50+ years old and want to date women who are between 18 to 30 (overweight excluded) so that’s not even 10% of women population !

[@OutnBacker]

@@lovejunkie490 Whatever the dynamics are, the bottom line is that women want the Top guys, and men want the Top women. However, nature has given women the choice. Any woman can get glammed up for the night and pretty much any woman can get laid. Yes. The Top guys are more prone to be shallow and predatorial than most other men. That was the analogy I alluded to with the best, most successful fishers; They plan it, they know where to go, when to be there, and they don't care if they don't land a fish that day. They know there will be others tomorrow. Most importantly, they don't care if they DO land a fish. It's expected. Another aspect of this current trend is that if an average guy Goes Hid Own Way, the women don't even know it. They dont care one wit. Why? Because of that nature thing, and the fact that they know they are sitting on a gold mine. With fewer and fewer people being church members and more and more people living Virtual Live on-line, the furure looks bleak. We're not the same civilzation we were 40 years ago.

[@qwerty1994ize]

@@OutnBackerWell said.

[@SuperKripke]

It's telling that Louise would just assume what Marilyn and Hugh's life was like based on what was publicly known. Specious research.

[@paulwary]

Hehe. Low status men. The lower 80% of men that the lower 80% of women cannot accept. And the vibe is yeah, so what???

[@konstantinrebrov675]

@@inHistime. Prison Planet

[@enhancedutility266]

Pitchforks are coming 🙂

[@darbyheavey406]

Think more modern.

[@enhancedutility266]

@@darbyheavey406 I'm a history buff so I like to keep the old analogy

[@st0a]

Guns, molotovs, army knives, grenades, C4s, flame throwers...

[@enhancedutility266]

@@st0a ah the work's

[@DigSamurai]

Be careful what you wish for.

[@geraldarcuri9307]

I would argue that Hugh Hefner paid a huge price for his lifestyle. It's called, ironically enough, an opportunity cost. Pleasure is not the measure of the good life. Commitment and procreation are potentially much more satisfying for the soul. Oh, and by the way, we as Christians did not inherit monogamy from the Romans. Try reading Genesis, which Jesus quoted in describing the ideal of one man-one woman marriage.

[@KevTheImpaler]

Genesis? Jacob had two wives and their two handmaidens. Abraham had his wife and her handmaiden.

[@armandvega2752]

⁠@@KevTheImpalerGod never explicitly commanded men to have multiple wives or even concubines. If you study scripture thoroughly, then you would know that most men who were polygamous suffered at some point. David’s first child with Bathsheba died in childbirth. Solomon was whipped by his wives and started simping for them so hard that he began worshipping pagan Gods and even built idols to those Gods in the temple of Jerusalem. This infuriated God so much that he sent foreign armies to attack and conquer Israel. Every passage that shows men being polygamous is descriptive not prescriptive.

[@nikokapanen82]

@@armandvega2752 Yet the Old Testament is clear evidence that powerful men, naturally, have lots of women and losers have none. It is the exactly the same in our days as well.

[@NomadZeroOne]

Yes and if we look at the NT in Matthew 5:28 Jesus states that even looking with lust is commiting adultery in the heart. The 6th commandment from the 10 commandments also states not to commit adultery. So no polyamourous relationships are not the norm as they violate God's design for marriage.

[@loganray3503]

And yet Jesus was never married. It doesn't strike you as a bit odd that God, the one in Christians' view created marriage, was never married himself?

[@shane757]

Even after their situation is noticed average men are an afterthought in the discussion, it's always "particularly for women".

[@edwardrook8146]

She is only interested in talking about the rich handsome men

[@grant8917]

Feminist today are not about equality and justice but about power.

[@r.walker7986]

It freed them the same way it freed women, it also made them have to actually compete and provide more than the basics.

[@TheFluffyDuck]

Great take away from me from this podcast is when you pull the “freedom leaver” people don’t gravitate towards an enlightened way of thinking and behaviour, but back towards our species norm. Which is barbaric, unfair, selfish, and well stoneage.

[@konstantinrebrov675]

Most people do not deserve freedom, as they have done nothing to earn it. They just sit around binge eating, drinking, and watching TV. And those are just the harmless ones.

[@secretagent4610]

Liberalism gets so liberal that it eventually leads to chaos and then the world becomes Chaz. Remember the sovereign state of Chaz?

[@brianbard3846]

Hey Louise, I think it's more prevalent than most people think. I Have never seen or known one of these Chads, who get all the women. All the men that I know have either been married or never interact with women

[@kimguy4159]

Dudes don't want the ladies after they have been ran through

[@dabirdalton]

Why should men commit to women who will not commit to them?

[@kristiyangrigorov5232]

I have never had a girlfriend in my life, and I will be turning 23 next month. I have also never dated, recieved compliments literally only from 1 girl and Im not sure if it was out of kindness or genuine. I have never approached girls, and I don't know how to do it or what to talk about. It's very frustrating.

[@theguybehindyou4762]

All for one and none for all.

[@garbonomics]

Hum I agree with some and vehemently disagree with other parts of her point of view.

[@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc]

Many men have decided to stay well away from the minefield that is strewn with women. Aint worth even thinking about. Plenty else to play with.

[@eileenchang2096]

There are many introverted, socially awkward women out there too, and they don’t appreciate casual dating culture at all. However, they think mousy only like outgoing, loud and attention grabbing women, and they are very sensitive people.

[@ROForeverMan]

Where are those whimin ?

[@eileenchang2096]

If you see people together, the quiet ones who look shy, not necessarily friendly, maybe even antisocial. @@ROForeverMan

[@JT-rx1eo]

But the onus of performance is not on women, it's on men. If they are physically attractive, these socially awkward women will be hit on too. Women can sit and look pretty and be valued highly. Social awkwardness doesn't mean the same thing for the genders. It effects men far more harshly.

[@eileenchang2096]

I do know quite a few socially awkward pretty girls, the6 have lots of food allergies and ver6 very sensitive. Somehow they surround themselves with people with similar energies, there aren’t many guys who do hit on, but many guys wait around to be asked out by outgoing girls. They are nerdy or musical artistic people @@JT-rx1eo

[@RTFLDGR]

my freedom is away from destructive women. No more. My productivity and income have gone up.

[@LoboBlack187]

Stuff I heard in the black-red pill community a decade ago is now mainstream. Crazy.

[@secretagent4610]

And they shamed them for it...

[@samaat66]

R.I.P. HEF! Men exploited women to men making women exploit themselves.Will women ever bear RESPONSIBILITY for their actions and behaviors...

[@dylanbuchanan6511]

At around the 4:10 mark, she says human beings are polyamorous by nature and says high status men get most of the women in ancient cultures and the lower classes get no wives. I’m aware high status leaders in ancient cultures had multiple wives (concubines) but i thought low status men had monogamy for the most part. Anyone want to comment?

[@Sensorium19]

Saying "it's complicated" is a cop out, but the specific conditions and time periods matter a lot. What she is talking about is backed up by several different things. The most significant is genetic evidence that indicates that over the history of human beings as a species, only one third of men left children, while two thirds of women left children. This is mostly the result of what happened in pre-history. In historic periods actual practices and results varied greatly, but there is tendency toward polygyny in primitive or tribal cultures. Some empire level cultures, such as the islamic ones, also had these types of practices. Even in Christianized European cultures, there would have been tendencies for poor men to remain unmarried, or without committed partners. These are all great generalizations, but I think they do represent something accurate.

[@greeshmavarghese6473]

@@Sensorium19can you provide sources about polygyny in pre-historic societies? I heard they were matrilineal/matriarchal,more communal and closer to egalitarian than modern societies are.

[@Sensorium19]

@@greeshmavarghese6473 I don't have the paper reference on me at the moment. Search "Is There Anything Good About Men? And Other Tricky Questions By John Tierney" That will take you to a brief article about Roy Baumeisters book "Is There Anything Good About Men?" which is where I first heard the reference. Regarding your impression of prehistoric cultures, there are certainly more matriarchal tribal societies than there are at further stages of technical development, but they are not universally matriarchal as far as I know. Hunter-gather societies do tend toward egalitarianism in distributing food, but not mates. That is my understanding, anyway.

[@grahambuckingham7295]

Half of men had no offspring but only 5% of women had no offspring in ancestral times.

[@JT-rx1eo]

Lol. How does the math work out? If high status men get multiple women, and you assume a roughly 50/50 balance in the genders, that means there aren't enough women to go around for the bottom percentiles of men. And genetic research has confirmed that only 40% of men have procreated throughout history.

[@CogitoBcn]

Interesting that, for her, "low status" men are about 90-95% of the male population. No middle class here either.

[@hakim6933]

It has harmed men and women, casual intimacy devalues said intimacy. Chastity until marriage was encouraged and celebrated once upon a time and marriages were more stable. A woman's ability to pair bond is strongest with their first partner.

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

That's utter BS

[@florianb3935]

@@wyleecoyotee4252 What is BS? I remember a serious study saying in essence that after 5 different partners, we have almost lost all capacity for intimacy (other than sensorial pleasure I mean).

[@johnw9038]

​@@wyleecoyotee4252It's completely true

[@pigknickers2975]

"casual intimacy devalues said intimacy" - how could it not?

[@GamingDemiurge]

She’s right. Monogamy consists of forcing the top men to limit themselves to only one woman.

[@daniellesomerfield8799]

Listening to more Chabad philosophy?

[@sacrilegeisrealworship409]

THE CHURCH IS RICH BUT THE PEOPLE ARE POOR

[@nicholasdalby5178]

The women assume you HAVE OTHER OPTIONS and therefore are likely to cease the relationship to protect themselves from rejection coming with a man being the object of desire of another and the woman feeling powerless. It is the whole "too hot to handle" situation going on, only in this case the man is the object 2:49

[@Chrisatrucker]

All she did was say a bunch of nothing and made it sound good.

[@kaj7135]

Peak woman moment.

[@KevTheImpaler]

She's not wrong.

[@Peterdemcsak]

You are mentally ill...

[@kaj7135]

Not admitting that women are the *real* problem here makes her entirely wrong.

[@andrewstadterman329]

Translation, they'd rather be side B's for Chad than married to Brad. I'm sure this has nothing to do with the skyrocketing of single motherhood. Reap what ya sow, be happy, finally free 😁👍

[@Gabriel902884]

monogamy is great outcome for our society and even as individuals but i guess it cant be changed at least not in the near future

[@stevenlightfoot6479]

Louise Perry is exactly correct in all she says. I have observed it all personally.

[@TheHerrUlf]

Ur joking, right?

[@stevenlightfoot6479]

@@TheHerrUlf not joking.

[@ceooflonelinessinc.267]

How can this lady been given screen time, when she fails do understand the core of the problem here?

[@jamesleth806]

She is all over the place. Partial truths, Partial untruths. Not a bright spark but probably unconsciously veering towards feminism Dogma. Cognitive dissonance apparent.

[@kaj7135]

She wouldn’t be a woman if she didn’t do any of those things.

[@yvito125]

I get all the benefitsof a relationship snd mone of the drama

[@stopcensoringmen5044]

Why is her mic quality so low?

[@thelookofahero15]

Hugh Hefner died lonely and pathetic? Sounds like a mad activist to me. Work remotely and passport out if can. Keep holding the line lads. LOL

[@secretagent4610]

Ironically if she were around in Hef's time, she's want to get with him lol. She's just salty that a Hef don't want her. Feminism is just a reaction to Chad not committing or wanting them.

[@lunchbox6576]

Women simp for an attractive man (8 and above) the same way men simp for women. Also why is it low value men and there are no low value women?

[@margaretcampbell2681]

I don’t think she’s too bright either

[@karlheven8328]

Why, care to elaborate?

[@Micbop]

I don't think at all he was pathetic at the end of his life. He made an empire & was king in it. He could look back & know most men wud dream to have his success & life. We don't want the hangups of long term & mostly it's not happy & full of compromises no thank you. I modelled for over 10 years so I know I'm not a dog even then I preferred to remain & still be alone. I have everything I need & most women are never content no thank you, never ever long term.

[@ubiwrongcomeatme3452]

Title misleading. They spelled women wrong.

[@GhostSal]

She didn’t fully answer the question. Yes, the top tier men are doing very well. Average to very attractive wømen are also doing well. HOWEVER average and below average men are exceedingly being closed out of s3xual realtionships… all while average wømen and above are sharing the top tier guys.

[@lindsaymcpherson4744]

I've seen even unattractive women go from man to man multiple partners ,they never go without for any length of time ,yet most of the males I know go without for YEARS ,even the married ones !!

[@BWater-yq3jx]

3:47 IS it?? You wanna spell that for us? 😆

[@MicMc539]

The wonderful Art and Joy of Seduction. Alas, no more!

[@kylemiller6765]

Ah, more feminism, I'm sure that'll help everyone.

[@wolfgangkleiber5759]

Happily married man here. Was a bit of a lad growing up. But once you find her, you grab her and that’s that.