How This Era of Heavyweight Boxing Got Exposed

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TJlovesFights

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4 ай бұрын

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@tjlovesfights
@tjlovesfights 4 ай бұрын
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@user-yv2ig2wl4e
@user-yv2ig2wl4e 4 ай бұрын
I think u don't give AJ enough credit, at the very least he's still moving forward, improving and fighting top opposition. Who knows, he might be champ again
@jakeembrooks2014
@jakeembrooks2014 4 ай бұрын
Why athletes lie about height?
@iankreegs9196
@iankreegs9196 4 ай бұрын
First of all pause and most aesthetic physique are you kidding me? Have you ever seen him walk with those knees knockin? Look at his legs when he walks. I could name 10 guys off the top of my head with better bodies.
@Mokuteke
@Mokuteke 4 ай бұрын
Your very handsome young man.
@phobosex7504
@phobosex7504 4 ай бұрын
Probably your worst video ngl
@propaganda4708
@propaganda4708 4 ай бұрын
I think the issue is that many of that big four fighters seemingly refused to fight each other, meaning they never had to get better to face off like the old champs did
@edi.duzit23
@edi.duzit23 4 ай бұрын
Wilder and fury used each other to duck the other heavyweights
@lampad4549
@lampad4549 4 ай бұрын
​@@edi.duzit23at the time they were the biggest heavyweights in the world not exactly ducking
@lampad4549
@lampad4549 4 ай бұрын
Fury and wilder did and so did usyk and aj.
@edi.duzit23
@edi.duzit23 4 ай бұрын
@@lampad4549no fury was on a 3 year lay off and wilder had a mandatory he was ducking for 2 years
@asherandall7441
@asherandall7441 4 ай бұрын
​@lampad4549 Nah at the time the fight to make was aj vs wilder but wilder kept turning it down and cherrypicked fury off a 3 year lay off
@reboot8302
@reboot8302 4 ай бұрын
Division hasn't been exposed to anybody who's been paying attention. Wilder has always been unskilled and mostly unproven amongst the top level, as he avoided most top contenders of the era. Fury has always been very inconsistent and also didn't fight many good guys of this era. Joshua suffered an upset defeat and avenged it (as many great heavyweights such as Lennox Lewis have) and then lost to a generational P4P talent in Usyk. Joshua was looked at as the worst of the 3 for awhile because he lost so many times but the reason he lost was because unlike Fury and Wilder he was fighting top guy after top guy. Anybody who was paying attention and was unbiased knew this. These truths have only been exposed to more casual fans.
@asherandall7441
@asherandall7441 4 ай бұрын
Glad someone is saying it. Joshua is the one who acc took the most risks. Wilder could've fought klitschko before both of them but him and his team turned it down cos he was a "baby champion" eventhough he was 30 fights into his career
@OJrB100
@OJrB100 4 ай бұрын
@@asherandall7441I think likewise with usyk too both him and Aj take all the risks
@malakai.m7666
@malakai.m7666 4 ай бұрын
Facts
@asherandall7441
@asherandall7441 4 ай бұрын
@juniorbangura732 Yeh the other two been coasting. They just talk without backing their words. Only reason Fury is fighting Usyk is the Saudis are handing out ridiculous paydays
@AlinJ.
@AlinJ. 4 ай бұрын
100% agree with everything
@Don-ii9og
@Don-ii9og 2 ай бұрын
TJ stop hiding under your bed and come make a video about Joshua's easy victory against Ngannou.
@terrellewilliams2188
@terrellewilliams2188 2 ай бұрын
Same thing I was thinking 😂
@somedude3977
@somedude3977 2 ай бұрын
Came to this trash channel to check if he made a video on it, looks like he’s ducking that video
@elitecombine5373
@elitecombine5373 2 ай бұрын
Fr I been waiting for an upload about it. He made one real quick after Tyson fury vs Francis negagnu but after Anthony Joshua he is in Hawaii.
@dfaiz5431
@dfaiz5431 2 ай бұрын
I also still waiting. Its unfair not give credit to boxing after downplay it in this video😢
@emanresu454
@emanresu454 2 ай бұрын
It only took a month for this to age poorly, impressive.
@theredcomet5670
@theredcomet5670 2 ай бұрын
There are many such videos out there now. Joshua made a lot of people look very stupid.
@jmskillz7401
@jmskillz7401 4 ай бұрын
Calling AJ’s resume thin is ridiculous
@jcentertainment1503
@jcentertainment1503 4 ай бұрын
Idk what this guy is talking about aj has the most names but ngl a lot of them were on the older side
@7Criska
@7Criska 4 ай бұрын
This whole vid sucks and hope he sees this. AJs resume looks better than Furys, and how did it get exposed? Its more like Francis is a talented boxer ffs.
@somedude3977
@somedude3977 4 ай бұрын
@@7Criska it’s simply cuz this is an mma biased channel owned by an mma biased fanboy
@ArturMcCulloch-Duran
@ArturMcCulloch-Duran 4 ай бұрын
And because mma is so much better since Heavyweights actually fight each other​@somedude3977
@somedude3977
@somedude3977 4 ай бұрын
@@ArturMcCulloch-Duran UFC not mma there’s a difference
@suzakux1179
@suzakux1179 4 ай бұрын
AJ still has the best resume of the 3 and could be making a comeback
@energyfitness5116
@energyfitness5116 4 ай бұрын
Problem is the 3 are pas their prime and missed their shit at greatness
@kungfubrando
@kungfubrando 4 ай бұрын
​@@energyfitness5116aj isn't he's still young
@energyfitness5116
@energyfitness5116 4 ай бұрын
Im not talking about just age but also 'shelf-life'. Fury made a comeback from a harsh lifestyle and props to him, but hes no young lion. Wilder seems shot now, i doubt he can comeback. AJ's heart was tested and he has no killer instinct and wont brave a storm - he wont eat a shot to give a shot - hes scared. Thats how Usyk( a Cruiserweight) beat him TWICE. A smaller dude with less power. IMO, AJ, Wilder, and Fury are done. they all should have fought each other 5 years ago but were too chicken...or you could say 'too business prudent'. @@kungfubrando
@Arizona9001
@Arizona9001 3 ай бұрын
Best of the trash. Isn’t really much.
@energyfitness5116
@energyfitness5116 3 ай бұрын
@@kungfubrando AJ lost his heart. Plus the dudes coming up will force him to fight inside which he avoids like Mayweather.
@luismarcialvergaradiaz5363
@luismarcialvergaradiaz5363 2 ай бұрын
And joshua did what everyone expected fury to do. Beat without lots of difficulties Francis Ngannou. I wonder if this can be considered the "Tjlovesfights" curse
@zayrice1885
@zayrice1885 2 ай бұрын
Joshua just knock Francis out
@CultureBoxing
@CultureBoxing 4 ай бұрын
Anthony Joshua will age this video like milk
@duckyh9712
@duckyh9712 2 ай бұрын
You said it
@Cunt982
@Cunt982 2 ай бұрын
The prophecy has been fulfilled.
@EliasRoy
@EliasRoy Ай бұрын
And he did it
@deaconblackfire2896
@deaconblackfire2896 4 ай бұрын
Ngannou winning a poll on a UFC focused channel? No way
@johnmarkson1998
@johnmarkson1998 4 ай бұрын
this channel lost a lot of respect with this video cant lie.
@gardensaladdude90
@gardensaladdude90 4 ай бұрын
@@johnmarkson1998can’t blame him. Boxings stupid ass 4 belt system results in videos like this. If they HAD to fight each other this wouldn’t be a problem
@mr.sharma125
@mr.sharma125 4 ай бұрын
Stop glazing boxing 🤷🏽 a dead sport, the only reason it’s relavent these days is cus of its historic past
@gardensaladdude90
@gardensaladdude90 4 ай бұрын
@@mr.sharma125 I half agree. Other divisions have some exciting fights but titles just don’t matter. I don’t even bother following it but if I hear about a good fight I’ll watch. Like AJ fighting Ngannou that shit might actually be interesting
@johnmarkson1998
@johnmarkson1998 4 ай бұрын
@@gardensaladdude90 at least the fighters get paid for risking their lives (its not even risk its garanteed permanent brain damage). ufc is bad match making + they dont get paid.
@terrellewilliams2188
@terrellewilliams2188 2 ай бұрын
You been hiding for 2 weeks 😂😂😂😂
@maskedman5657
@maskedman5657 4 ай бұрын
The Problem is that they had to exposed after 5 years in the first place. The only reason why most fans are very conflicted on Heavyweights fighting skills is because they take way too long to fight each other.
@james263
@james263 2 ай бұрын
Never been a worst heavyweight era? Really? I think most people would say the era dominated by the Klitschkos after Lennox retired was way worse.
@SaiSaiGre
@SaiSaiGre 2 ай бұрын
I don't get why people want a non-competitive heavyweight division. It's so childish. People want their favorites to fight but then clown fighters for losing and then complain thag the best aren't fighting the best.
@MedlifeCrisis
@MedlifeCrisis 4 ай бұрын
No one rates Wilder. I would mildly disagree with your AJ assessment, his CV is not thin. It's easily the best of the three, but it's clear he's got shortcomings. However he's back on the rise and I think could win a belt again. But totally agree with you verdict on Fury. For years I've been perplexed how people legitimately say things like he's one of the greatest of all time, I think mostly because he keeps saying it over and over and people hang off his every word. Francis did the world a favour taking him down a few notches. The HW division has been in big trouble for two decades now so people who honestly think any of the current generation could even get into the top ten in the 90s are deluded. I think there are some prospects. Dubois I've seen live and picked him years ago but he's not lived up to the early promise, however excellent performance the other day. Jai Opetaia will step up to HW and could be very effective. Like the new style! When I started I was off camera and people told me to change that, and I've never looked back. Plus you're harder to replace with AI if you're on camera! But maybe only for a few months more...
@BlockyRaptor
@BlockyRaptor 4 ай бұрын
MedlifeBoxing coming soon?
@Sammy.a1287
@Sammy.a1287 4 ай бұрын
Hey doc, nice to see you grace this scene. Totally agree with you about AJ - he’s got a good CV apart from the Usyk losses. Also, I’m frustrated that OP did not raise this point; I wonder whether you could tell us a thing or two about Ayahuasca’s effects on performance and how that could possibly explain Wilder’s poor display against Parker. Surely heavy use of these kinds of psychedelic drugs hugely impact many factors that determine boxing ability. TIA for your insights
@deedoot3570
@deedoot3570 4 ай бұрын
Def was not expecting a thoughtful breakdown from MedLifeCrisis when I was scrolling down Make a boxing channel I'd sub 👍
@pietroghsvf
@pietroghsvf 2 ай бұрын
This video aged like milk
@unique_mushroom
@unique_mushroom 9 күн бұрын
this video aged like wine
@notaspeck6104
@notaspeck6104 6 күн бұрын
Did it? Okay AJ beat Ngannou, but the point as a whole still stands. This era is just worse than those before, and boxing is in shambles.
@MexMega2
@MexMega2 2 ай бұрын
I think AJ just saved heavyweight boxing after that KO of Ngannou. Well he restored balance
@wolfgod1011
@wolfgod1011 4 ай бұрын
I think there's a bit of hyperbole in this. I don't think Tyson Fury was " exposed" by Ngannou. when it comes down to it was just one fight which it was very likely he just took it not very seriously. Also there are great fighters who get dropped often by lesser opposition . Just look at Felix Trinidad and Miguel cotto for examples. Likewise Joshua was not "exposed" by Usyk. Usyk was just more technically proficient and came with a great game plan. It's like saying Ali was "exposed" by Ken Norton in their first fight. The heavyweight division " never being worse" is pretty insane when looking at the late 2000s early 2010s. There just weren't nearly as many Interesting fighters then and the two best fighters ( the Klitschkos) we knew would never fight each other. The idea that it's the most protected division is pretty laughable. Fury has fought wilder, klitschko and will fight Usyk. Joshua has fought Usyk,povetkin,parker, ruiz. And wilder ( the most protected) has fought Ortiz( when he was feared) , Fury, and Parker. Overall , I really like your videos. But I feel like this one is a bit too reactionary based just on the recent fights which are most likely at the tail end of these fighters careers. I would also mention that even in the great times of heavyweight boxing (1970's and 1990's) there were plenty of magazines and publications saying the division was garbage.
@lionheart1607
@lionheart1607 4 ай бұрын
Excellent, you said everything I was going to say lol
@frijol_dorado9225
@frijol_dorado9225 4 ай бұрын
I would have to strongly agree with all your points
@jabr0nicus
@jabr0nicus 4 ай бұрын
I would agree that AJ didn't get exposed, he actually even improved for Usyk-2 and still lost. That's just a genuine skill/style-matchup issue. But it's arguable Fury got exposed by Ngannou, who many people felt earned a win or at least a draw, hence all the "robbery" talk. Ngannou had never boxed under the lights before, and Fury knew Ngannou's reputation, didn't prepare properly, and debatably got cooked worse than the first time he fought wilder. That's a lot worse than being beaten in 2 competitive fights by the current champ and former undisputed cruiserweight champ in Usyk. If conor mcgregor had sparked floyd mayweather or if it had been very close, we would probably have said he "exposed" floyd. So if Ngannou arguably beats Fury, it's not entirely unreasonable for people to say Fury got "exposed" even if it was just a little bit
@flxsemi653
@flxsemi653 4 ай бұрын
This. We're all susceptible to recency bias, whether we realize it or not.
@danielkhan1218
@danielkhan1218 4 ай бұрын
Don't think Ali and Norton are a fair comparison since even their first fight was very close and competitive. The current crop of Heavyweights is definitely lacking in many ways.
@turnttaco7661
@turnttaco7661 4 ай бұрын
A young, heavyweight, with potential is Daniel Dubois. Yes, he has losses, but he's still young about 10 years younger than the stars of the division. He has a lot of power and good fundamentals
@ajaxtelamonian5134
@ajaxtelamonian5134 4 ай бұрын
Losses to me just mean that they actually took risky fights. Loved his win against Miller.
@FisherAthleticFan
@FisherAthleticFan 4 ай бұрын
Daniel needs to work on his heart. He showed a lot against Miller but loses before that due to him just quitting. He also won’t get many big fights if he doesn’t learn how to sell them
@jamessalgado7263
@jamessalgado7263 4 ай бұрын
Another potential is Jared Anderson , although he's no way near been tested as DDD
@BlackTanjiro1
@BlackTanjiro1 4 ай бұрын
Styles make fights. You can’t do triangle theory because different styles match up well against others. If Fury isn’t allowed to lean on his opponent, you’ll see how average he is. Wallin exposed that and AJ brutalized Wallin. Yet Fury would have never in a million years lost to Ruiz. You can’t just go with the “favorite”. Boxing has gotten more interesting and the Heavyweight division has Saudi involved paying big money.
@thememeconnoisseur4088
@thememeconnoisseur4088 4 ай бұрын
Ruiz definitely could've beaten Wilder, though
@sheadoherty7434
@sheadoherty7434 4 ай бұрын
​@@thememeconnoisseur4088 I agree
@BlackTanjiro1
@BlackTanjiro1 4 ай бұрын
@@thememeconnoisseur4088 Lies. I don’t subscribe to that idea.
@divineintervention212
@divineintervention212 4 ай бұрын
Let's be honest. Ruiz caught JA with a extremely lucky punch. He won far and square but it's not like he simply out boxed him. Even though Wilder is a bum he'd probably beat Ruiz.
@thememeconnoisseur4088
@thememeconnoisseur4088 4 ай бұрын
@@BlackTanjiro1 He's got incredibly fast recovery, a decent chin, faster hands, and enough power to get by, Now i'm not saying Ruiz takes the fight 10/10, but he's definitely got the potential to beat Wilder and I'd favour his chances more often than not tbh
@buddylee5712
@buddylee5712 4 ай бұрын
Also, I think Wilders KO power may also be overrated. Consider that almost all of Wilders KOs were against guys who had already been KO'd multiple times meaning they had weakened punch resistance before even fighting Wilder
@5ubjugator
@5ubjugator 4 ай бұрын
Nah
@jabr0nicus
@jabr0nicus 4 ай бұрын
so true. ever since I saw his legs go full jello-mode and the fact that he is incapable of moving backwards i was like, "they really want me to say this man is a good boxer?" to be fair he's a great power puncher but boxing is more than just power punching. so he can't set up his power punches against good opponents and when that happens his power looks like nothing
@goncalosilva5369
@goncalosilva5369 4 ай бұрын
Why is everybody obsessed with raw power most of top contenders in heavyweights can put each to sleep depending on matchups, styles make fights. Also setting your punches correctly is 90% kos. look at gervonta davis, most of his opponents talk more about how he sets his punches his raw punching power.
@agegarret7036
@agegarret7036 4 ай бұрын
​@jabr0nicus i dont think ive ever seen anyone praise wilders boxing prowess. His speed and accuracy is pretty good for heavyweight. His issue is his gas tank and LACK of skill. His power is just so good that he made it as far as he has with it alone.
@5ubjugator
@5ubjugator 4 ай бұрын
@@agegarret7036 THIS
@dfaiz5431
@dfaiz5431 2 ай бұрын
Now the ship have turn around would you say the same thing for ufc?. I am dissapointed that you afraid of making the video of francis vs joshua after downplay it so bad in this video. Give the credit to boxing when you are wrong😢
@tjlovesfights
@tjlovesfights 4 ай бұрын
Ok fellas, sound is a little off sync of the video but I can’t change the raw file and don’t have time to sync every individual video. Thanks for the feedback and this should remind you I’m not a studio. I’m just some fucking idiot in my room
@beaualoevv
@beaualoevv 4 ай бұрын
didn’t ask
@TheUltimaFortuna
@TheUltimaFortuna 4 ай бұрын
be a studio ffs. (jk keep up the good shit)
@lemonfresh1135
@lemonfresh1135 4 ай бұрын
Solid analysis. However I do find the facecam format to be less engaging as there is less dynamism, and much less to look at. I preferred the old style of video but a blend of the two may a good compromise between viewer retention and a greater personal presence. You could have the facecam take up less of the screen and isolate it to a corner or have your facecam be the background and add graphics on/ around it. Either way, very well written video and spot on diagnosis.
@bencabrera8957
@bencabrera8957 4 ай бұрын
TJ: there’s no future heavyweight boxing star Chase Demoor: *allow me to introduce myself*
@champ1159
@champ1159 4 ай бұрын
Lol
@campbells0ups
@campbells0ups 4 ай бұрын
heavyweight boxing is not exposed. we are living in a golden age of heavyweights!! fury, wilder, usyk are just coming to the end but there will be others coming up! in ten years we will look back at how good this era of heavyweight boxing is. people in the 90's werent grateful either at the time for what they had, look what 20 years did.
@joshuatree5620
@joshuatree5620 4 ай бұрын
All the heavyweight greats of the 90's fought eachother. Lewis and Holyfield, Holyfield and Tyson, Tyson and Lewis. We cant and probably will never get to say that about this current era. Wilder and A.J, A.J and Fury, Usyk and Wilder and so on.
@jeromesylvester2644
@jeromesylvester2644 4 ай бұрын
This is so true TJ had a real stinker with this take
@JuiceSpilly-ix1fl
@JuiceSpilly-ix1fl 4 ай бұрын
Heavyweights suck today skillwise its not that hard to accept
@mason9807
@mason9807 4 ай бұрын
Modern heavyweights like joshua and wilder only rely on their straight right hand. Past heavyweights had perfected their jab, had footwork from two weight classes down, and were not ducking each other. It's incomparable for any pugilist, this is just wishful thinking from your end.
@henzoko5946
@henzoko5946 3 ай бұрын
@@jeromesylvester2644TJ is right lol. HW boxing is dead right now
@bengrisdale5647
@bengrisdale5647 Ай бұрын
Not fair to make a video like this then not make a follow up when AJ smashed Ngannou, unsub😐
@AaronMichaelLong
@AaronMichaelLong 4 ай бұрын
Heavyweight boxers have held onto their titles into their late 30s for a long time. Larry Holmes was 36 when Michael Spinks took him down, Muhammad Ali was 36 when he got beaten by Leon Spinks and Larry Holmes. Lennox Lewis retired at 37 with most of his belts, and the Klitschko brothers were 41 and 39 respectively when they were done. Sonny Liston allegedly was beaten by Muhammad Ali at age 34, but there's evidence to suggest that his age was misreported. So the notion that all the top boxers being in their mid-to-late 30's is not, in and of itself, evidence that the division is lacking in talent, especially because of how *huge* heavyweight boxers have become. George Foreman was supposed to be a giant at 6'4", now he would the little guy, standing a tiny bit higher than Usyk. If you can explain to me how a guy who's 6'3" tall can fight at cruiserweight, while Mike Tyson at 5'10" was fighting at heavyweight, then we can have a discussion about who is and isn't skilled. You really want to fix the heavyweight division? Make the fighers weigh in 10 minutes before the bell.
@austinclark3350
@austinclark3350 4 ай бұрын
Hey man there’s no weight limit on heavyweight boxing, so they don’t waste energy worrying about what they weigh they just get in fighting shape and show up so it wouldn’t change for them. But I think you make an excellent point for all other divisions in boxing and mma it would solve the weight cutting issues
@AaronMichaelLong
@AaronMichaelLong 4 ай бұрын
@@austinclark3350 Yes, my remark about making weight 10 minutes before the fight, I'm talking about Usyk being 6'3" and somehow being able to fight at cruiserweight. We have to adjust for the fact that diuretics are much more effective now than they were 50 years ago.
@crabb9966
@crabb9966 4 ай бұрын
Some were old but his point was the lack of good competitors who are younger
@AaronMichaelLong
@AaronMichaelLong 4 ай бұрын
@@crabb9966 Jared Anderson is #7 on The Ring's Heavyweight rankings. He's 24. Josephy Parker is 32, he's #4. Agit Kabayel is #10, he's 31.
@lekanosagie
@lekanosagie 4 ай бұрын
@@AaronMichaelLong Filip Hrgovic is also 31 and Jermaine Franklin is 30.
@SamuelSantos_
@SamuelSantos_ 8 күн бұрын
I agree with your takes on Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder, but disagree on Anthony Joshua. Joshua didn’t get exposed, he was the only one (along with Usyk) who was actually willing to take risks and fight hard for the belts.
@Dom-tb2qz
@Dom-tb2qz 4 ай бұрын
Jared Anderson and Dubois are some young guys im excited for, another thing I wished you mentioned is the lack of fights among the top heavyweights. We never got Fury v Joshua, Joshua v Wilder and Fury v Usyk took too long to happen, and now it’s too late for all those fights.
@SworBeyE16
@SworBeyE16 4 ай бұрын
Is it too late for them? What's to say the Saudis wont make them?
@Dom-tb2qz
@Dom-tb2qz 4 ай бұрын
@@SworBeyE16 it’s not that the Saudis couldn’t make them happen but that the fan interest is gone since Fury was exposed by Francis and Wilder lost to Joseph Parker (someone AJ already beat). These fights should have been made 5 years ago when these guys were closer to their prime and the fan interest was at its highest.
@SworBeyE16
@SworBeyE16 4 ай бұрын
@@Dom-tb2qz Is this alleged loss of fan interest reflected in actual viewership or engagement statistics? Or are you purely using conjecture to try and validate your bias?
@JEM_1
@JEM_1 4 ай бұрын
The sound is completely off, I'm not an editor but aren't you supposed to do the clap specifically for this? It just feels quite jarring when it is off like this
@tjlovesfights
@tjlovesfights 4 ай бұрын
Is it? I’ll fix it rn Edit: Can’t fix that shit but thank you for the feedback
@JEM_1
@JEM_1 4 ай бұрын
@@tjlovesfights lmao, it was a good video regardless
@tjlovesfights
@tjlovesfights 4 ай бұрын
@@JEM_1 if my viewers are not happy, I’m not happy
@sweetmeatpete
@sweetmeatpete 4 ай бұрын
@@tjlovesfightshe just being nitpicky you good bro
@judekiv
@judekiv 4 ай бұрын
I truthfully didn’t notice until you pointed it out😂
@DemonBlade214
@DemonBlade214 4 ай бұрын
Jared Anderson, David Adeleye, Fabio Wardley, Frank Sanchez, Filip Hrgovic and Daniel Dubois are six young heavyweights to look forward to I can name off the top of my head.
@CommandoMaster
@CommandoMaster 2 ай бұрын
Heavyweights in boxing and MMA are always less skilled than lighter weight classes because they don't need to rely on skill as much to beat their opponents, since they have size and power to do so.
@TeacherDoug7
@TeacherDoug7 19 күн бұрын
And the talent pool is lower.
@JohnLobello
@JohnLobello 4 ай бұрын
The new format is good. Respect for putting yourself out there 👊
@bfong50
@bfong50 4 ай бұрын
AJ is the most skilled, but a bit chinny. Fury is mentally strongest, big and moderately skilled. Wilder has so much power that it carried his sub par skills.
@henzoko5946
@henzoko5946 3 ай бұрын
Idk about that. AJ seems a bit stiff and robotic. I think Francis is going to demolish him
@Kyzo185
@Kyzo185 Ай бұрын
@@henzoko5946lol
@Al-ji4gd
@Al-ji4gd 7 күн бұрын
@@henzoko5946 So much for that..
@frijol_dorado9225
@frijol_dorado9225 4 ай бұрын
TJ i love your videos, but respectfully, I think many of your points are simply wrong. - with the age argument you made comparing fury and ngannou, you should also take into consideration that fury has been in more wars. ngannou started late and hasn't taken as much damage. also, like he said, you don't fight wilder 3 times and come out unchanged. i do agree that wilder has been extremely protected but at the end of the day, he was an Olympian and you don't win a bronze medal without having SOME skill. - for joshuas fight with usyk, he wasn't exposed, he simply fought a better fighter. with that argument applied elsewhere, was spence exposed against crawford? I don't think so, I think he just fought a better man. sorry TJ but this analysis was not it
@Juan-pq1eh
@Juan-pq1eh 4 ай бұрын
Yeah bro … TJ is the typa mf to be like “actually 🤓☝️”
@lekanosagie
@lekanosagie 4 ай бұрын
This might be his worst video. Horrible takes.
@SworBeyE16
@SworBeyE16 4 ай бұрын
Boxing nostalgists are truly bizarre. The modern heavyweight division is absolutely stacked with talent and serious competition. People were saying in the early 90s that the division was dead and the heavyweights of the 40, 50s, 60s, 70s were much better, when in reality the 90s turned out to be a golden era.
@mikestunt77
@mikestunt77 4 ай бұрын
I really don't think this generation of HW is so bad, the only big issue is that we didn't see the big matches among them when the fighters were in their prime and surely that was and still is a great hole in all their resumé.
@Dave-si2im
@Dave-si2im 4 ай бұрын
I think the heavy weight division is fairly strong but I do think Fury and Wilder are over hyped. Both have weak resumes, especially wilder. I was shocked that most ppl were shocked that Parker beat Wilder. The only shock for me was Wilder went the distance. I bet on Parker stopping him.
@lampad4549
@lampad4549 4 ай бұрын
How is fury resume weak?
@madgavin7568
@madgavin7568 4 ай бұрын
@@lampad4549 His two best wins were against a past prime Wladimir Klitschko, in a fight which is considered one of the worst title fights in HW boxing history because it was so boring and forgettable. And Deontay Wilder who is notoriously one-note, Fury REALLY struggled in their third fight getting dropped multiple times and looking really sloppy. His other 'good' win was Otto Wallin, who gave Fury all sorts of problems and Fury was saved by the bell in that fight. Had that fight gone on, the doctor would have stopped the fight due to that nasty cut Fury sustained. Whilst Fury struggled against Wallin, AJ completely blew him out of the water. Fury's resume is weak, especially for someone considered by some to be an ATG boxer.
@mason9807
@mason9807 4 ай бұрын
​@@lampad4549did he answer your question, or did you have another?
@user-bk9fk2tq2z
@user-bk9fk2tq2z 4 ай бұрын
@@mason9807 He doesn't have any more questions.
@user-bk9fk2tq2z
@user-bk9fk2tq2z 4 ай бұрын
@@madgavin7568 Also, Fury used a forearm to cheat his way to victory over Cunningham after Cunningham knocked him down. Plus, John McDermott beat Tyson Fury.
@callmegp
@callmegp 4 ай бұрын
I think you’re being too extreme about Joshua, his best win was Ruiz 2 and those losses forced him to work on his skill level. His last 2-3 fights have been extremely underrated and i think his best boxing is still ahead of him.
@catusluiz7338
@catusluiz7338 4 ай бұрын
Amazing seeing the progression of your channel, keep it up man. 👍🏼
@cobb6001
@cobb6001 4 ай бұрын
I normally like your takes but your way wrong about AJ. AJ has the best resume at heavyweight by far.
@asherandall7441
@asherandall7441 4 ай бұрын
Was thinking the same thing
@alexhubble
@alexhubble 4 ай бұрын
AJ, bless him. Watched AJ's early fights, excited by the power. He fought Dillian White ages ago and was rocked early / mid fight. Then you notice he doesn't move his head. And 10+ years later he still doesn't. Fury could be excellent if he's not mad. But he is as mad as a broom. How has he trained? Has he trained? Who knows. Wilder is bobbins with a big right. Usyk is very good indeed. A fight with Fury could be very high quality if - IF - sane Fury turns up.
@tactmatic
@tactmatic 4 ай бұрын
AJ will send Ngannou back to the PFL
@Millennium00
@Millennium00 4 ай бұрын
TJ face reveal 😲
@buddylee5712
@buddylee5712 4 ай бұрын
You guys are late lol
@terrellewilliams2188
@terrellewilliams2188 2 ай бұрын
Tjlovesfights I love your channel but it seems like your ducking attest make a video of how overrated Fury is
@campbells0ups
@campbells0ups 4 ай бұрын
some bad takes here, there are PLENTY of heavyweight prospects to be excited about. Dubois, Anderson, Jalalov, Wardley, Sanchez, Hrgovic, the re-emergence of Parker, and even Opetaia when he moves up.
@lekanosagie
@lekanosagie 4 ай бұрын
Yeah this is one of his worst videos clearly influenced by ignorance and recency bias. We’re in a golden era of heavyweights. The only thing I would say is that the margins are ALOT closer than we’d like to believe and the gap between the top guys and the rest are not all that large.
@J4sse
@J4sse 4 ай бұрын
Torrez, Clarke
@luismarcialvergaradiaz5363
@luismarcialvergaradiaz5363 Күн бұрын
It aged half-well, joshua did what everyone expected fury to do vs ngannou. Wilder got Ko'd by big bang zhang
@gypsylips1950
@gypsylips1950 4 ай бұрын
Such an L take. Heavyweight boxing is in a golden era. There's more notable big name skilled heavyweights than there has been in decades.
@EEEasdfasdc
@EEEasdfasdc 4 ай бұрын
AJ and Wilder weren't "exposed" lmao, AJ fought a better fighter and lost and Wilder has always been known as a guy that only has a good right hand. I wouldn't go so far as to say Tyson was "exposed" from his fight with Ngannou, he just didn't take it seriously at all and suffered the consequences; I wouldn't say he's the GOAT but he's undoubtedly very skilled. This video, and your "boxing is dead" video have been pretty dissapointing if I'm being honest
@nicholascoob1350
@nicholascoob1350 4 ай бұрын
Completely agree, hate casual clickbait videos like this.
@Levi-vt6nb
@Levi-vt6nb 4 ай бұрын
New format is dope! Keep up the good work champ :)
@nuttyrock6899
@nuttyrock6899 4 ай бұрын
I really want to thank you for taking the time to put together a well and thoughtful video. I truly believe in a lot of what it is that you were saying it is quite a shame to see the state of heavyweight boxing versus Cruiserweight. What was such huge spectacle to Feast Your Eyes Upon with such talents as the legendary Hall of Famers never put on a pair of boots and gloves. We don't need to go into detail but for case and point the Muhammad Ali's, the Joe frazier's, the Evander Holyfield etc,etc. When we mention these guys we're talking about 100% pure gladiators that was damn near willing to die in the ring for their pride and approve who was the better man it's almost like boxing as a whole became glamorized because now it's almost like WWE you never know what storyline what twist what turns. And it's kind of sad because we don't see a lot of promising heavyweights to step up through the ranks and reign supreme. So once again I thank you for a well thought-out video please keep up the good work I hope to see more great works from you in the future God bless you and have a great day🎉
@Coldass
@Coldass 2 ай бұрын
Lol u been real quiet bout heavyweight boxing lately
@EliasRoy
@EliasRoy Ай бұрын
Not even a SINGLE video
@NerdFaceEmoji
@NerdFaceEmoji 4 ай бұрын
So couple issues with this video that just bothered me -the wilder commentary was horrid yes he got outboxed but the dudes skill isnt his strong suit and for what im assuming was malik scotts decision he tried boxing on the backfoot waited to be active until the last round and didnt let his right hand (his money maker go) against parker also come tf on wilder would have destroyed parker if he was the same fighter that faught breazele or fury in the first fight -the wladmir fight was overlooked so much and it angered me so much AJ was young and klitch is a fucking monster even in his age also are we going to wash over the mental games that gave Fury that win seeing as wlad legit threw nothing and couldnt start anything -usyk is quite litterly one of the most skilled heavyweights alive and even besides his height and size he is still one of the most skilled tacticians
@josephtheodore4012
@josephtheodore4012 4 ай бұрын
Bro I just love the growth of this channel, found it when it was one of those rough cuts gems and now it’s looking like it could be even more special, absolutely amazing!
@Sam-rg8jx
@Sam-rg8jx 3 ай бұрын
Do you actually follow boxing or are you just and mma fan who watched fury vs Ngannou?
@dobronx-vl6ru
@dobronx-vl6ru 2 ай бұрын
He does
@tonche6650
@tonche6650 4 ай бұрын
Format works well half slide-half cam Even tho the sound is a little off
@somedude3977
@somedude3977 4 ай бұрын
Don’t really make sense to say that Wilder got exposed for his lack of boxing skills by Fury and now Parker. Wilder has been long exposed by Luis Ortiz and even guys like Gerald Washington and Artur Szpilka were outboxing him. The difference is none of those guys were elite so Wilders power was able to save him in those fights
@oqihouqiop
@oqihouqiop 3 ай бұрын
Youre mistook thinking wilder isnt a skiller boxer, he took bronze at the olympics
@ikeadrianbarayuga866
@ikeadrianbarayuga866 4 ай бұрын
The only true heavyweight among the big dogs of the division was a cruiserweight (Usyk).
@BeastSquad-uq1wh
@BeastSquad-uq1wh 2 ай бұрын
This is why i love past boxers
@dominiklehocky1486
@dominiklehocky1486 4 ай бұрын
AJ vs Klitchko was the day I fall in love with boxing. I am in heavyweight category myself and I love to watch only those guys, but… there is really lack of quality in every aspect. Everything just feels artificial.
@HerculesFit
@HerculesFit 4 ай бұрын
There will NEVER be another era like the 90's for Heavyweight Boxing! 💪
@SworBeyE16
@SworBeyE16 4 ай бұрын
I would argue that this era is just as stacked, if not more so.
@divineintervention212
@divineintervention212 4 ай бұрын
@Sworbey, With who ?🙄
@SworBeyE16
@SworBeyE16 4 ай бұрын
@@divineintervention212 Joshua, Parker, Usyk, Fury, Ngannou (?), Wilder (?), Hrgovic, Sanchez, Dubois, Zhang etc could all possibly beat each other and have serious talent. Then you have others with potential like Wardley, Anderson, Jalolov, Bakole and so on. In the 90s this was also the case.
@333Sonder
@333Sonder 3 ай бұрын
@@SworBeyE16 The issue with that is the heavyweights of the 90s and 00s actually fought one another at the top, this generation they legit wont fight one another unless they are paid a rediculus amount by the Saudis its pretty sad, we should have had a ton of fights between the top 4 but there have been barely any and now they are all aging and are getting to then end of their primes its just a waste tbh
@SworBeyE16
@SworBeyE16 3 ай бұрын
@@333Sonder At the same time we never got to see Lewis vs Bowe, or Tyson vs Bowe/Mercer/Morrisons/Foreman etc
@LoganMartinezletemhaveitl
@LoganMartinezletemhaveitl 4 ай бұрын
Most of what you said I can understand or agree with, but I would argue with a couple things. Unless your not really paying attention, there is new blood in the heavyweight division, like Jared Anderson and Daniel Dubois. Also, while helpful in discussing talent, you cannot base the skill level of a fighter solely on their resume alone (especially nowadays with the BS 4-belt era nonsense). Some fighters never get the chance to really fight the best for boxing politics/business reasons, even if they are probably the best in their divisions.
@exzyyvlogz8617
@exzyyvlogz8617 4 ай бұрын
fw the new camera bro keep up the good vids🙏🏽
@lunarmizt388
@lunarmizt388 4 ай бұрын
The whole era. People don’t fight each other anymore. We don’t care about losses. And being undefeated. If you are a killer you’ll have that 0 at the end of it all. Everyone dodges everyone.
@Robert399
@Robert399 4 ай бұрын
I like the new format, as long as the face cam isn't overused and replacing useful illustrations (which it wasn't)
@201hours8
@201hours8 4 ай бұрын
Saying wilder has a mediocre boxing skillset is mind-blowing
@jas8840
@jas8840 4 ай бұрын
there’s nothing with your face but i like the slideshow, makes it feel a documentary.
@jakoreyaj
@jakoreyaj 4 ай бұрын
I hate all this slander towards boxing because of what happened with Francis. The real bull shit imo, is that he wanted to be a boxer and has always dreamed of being a great boxer. So all the MMA guys claiming this as a victory for MMA are just reaching for straws. Yes, Tyson should've performed better but lets not ignore that Francis is physical specimen and AGAIN... HE WANTED TO BOX. That matters
@nijelbellard5780
@nijelbellard5780 4 ай бұрын
Great new format man really mess with it 👌🏽
@HamedBoxing
@HamedBoxing 4 ай бұрын
Great work TJ need more Boxing videos can’t wait for Usyk vs Fury
@bhekimahlobo6586
@bhekimahlobo6586 4 ай бұрын
Looking fresh bruv 👊🏾
@NotKimiRaikkonen
@NotKimiRaikkonen 4 ай бұрын
This is the MO of boxing in general. Appear like you're an undefeated man-god, by carefully picking your opponents.
@timothysargent860
@timothysargent860 4 ай бұрын
The new formats great but probably try a mix of the slideshow too. One of the best parts about your channel are the visuals that go along with the video.
@nikolasimoni5018
@nikolasimoni5018 4 ай бұрын
Exposed?everybody knew wilder has bad fundamentals but got carried by his power
@alecbarton28
@alecbarton28 3 сағат бұрын
I think the only heavyweight today that could hang with Liston, Ali, Tyson, Foreman, & Frazier would be Usyk.
@DVNY3L
@DVNY3L 4 ай бұрын
The only way Ngannou can win a fight, is to knockout his opponent. Because they will never give him the decision against a big name like Fury or Joshua…
@beastcombatanalysing635
@beastcombatanalysing635 4 ай бұрын
Honestly Francis was a UFC champ fought at the highest level, him performing well isn't a surprise if they took Bruce Buffer than that would be shocking
@jimmymcguire3191
@jimmymcguire3191 4 ай бұрын
Boxing is way more brutal in terms of punishment than mma Boxing > mma
@MrWackozacko
@MrWackozacko 4 ай бұрын
I dunno hes got a slouchy loose body but when he stiffens up and stands tall he was probably 6'8 10 years ago. Just his knees buckling inwards loses half an inch where most people legs dont do that
@p2pp2p91
@p2pp2p91 4 ай бұрын
I don’t think someone like AJ was protected, He got 4 world heavyweight titles from each individual within 22 fights apart from wilder. I think the heavyweight division was in a bad state before he came in. As for Fury, Wilder there was a lot of cherry fights and we all know that 😂
@yogismokes1628
@yogismokes1628 4 ай бұрын
We fuck with the new format but some pop ups too is cool. We here for you regardless bro
@zenmorte2793
@zenmorte2793 4 ай бұрын
there is a little delay between the video and the sound but its great that you got a camera!
@hdon88pro
@hdon88pro 4 ай бұрын
You are right about somethings and wrong about others
@adriandobronx
@adriandobronx 4 ай бұрын
I really like this new video style. You should do a breakdown of Pitbull vs Garcia. What do you think that outcome would be ?
@xAustere
@xAustere 4 ай бұрын
7:36 glad you mentioned Propa. Amazing videos!
@kai_johnsonn
@kai_johnsonn 4 ай бұрын
Love this type of content. Could you do a video breaking down the resumes of the entire Top 10? 1) Usyk 2) Joshua 3) Fury 4 Zhang 5) Whyte 6) Parker 7) Andy Ruiz Jr 8) Wilder 9) Joyce 10) Hrgovic (These are my rankings based on records and merit) 7
@ryanbutler4221
@ryanbutler4221 4 ай бұрын
I agree the division is in a really bad place right now. But i dont think its fair to judge someone for being knocked down in a heavyweight fight, they are all still big punchers.
@ochukoeduvie4531
@ochukoeduvie4531 4 ай бұрын
We're in a golden age of heavyweight boxing where even the competitors are good (unlike the Klitschko era). And fans wont appreciate it until the mentioned boxer and the contenders retire.
@mopar_keys
@mopar_keys 3 ай бұрын
… Joshua is the favorite on every betting odds you can find bro FOH 😂😂
@terrellewilliams2188
@terrellewilliams2188 2 ай бұрын
That fight was vicious hard to watch
@thiago.dacosta
@thiago.dacosta 4 ай бұрын
welcome ladies! this guy has been doing a great job for fight community
@fcktherich6913
@fcktherich6913 4 ай бұрын
Most heavyweight fightsport divisions have less skill than other divisions.
@HornetLarry
@HornetLarry 4 ай бұрын
Another great video👍
@user-bl4xv4dx2t
@user-bl4xv4dx2t 3 ай бұрын
The video REALLY starts @ 4:11--your WELCOME.
@randombandom8153
@randombandom8153 4 ай бұрын
Man your harsh take pleased my heart. Thank you for pointing out.
@buddylee5712
@buddylee5712 4 ай бұрын
This should have been obvious with boxing in general. There's too much emphasis placed into fighters being undefeated
@Grandmas_Favorite
@Grandmas_Favorite 4 ай бұрын
Ayyy TJ good looking lad!
@SM-nz9ff
@SM-nz9ff 4 ай бұрын
lookin clean my man
@stevecamarillo4974
@stevecamarillo4974 4 ай бұрын
New format is great, I think we listen to what you're saying more than we see the video, anyhow :D Heavyweight boxing has always leaned older and not as technical; so there are often less heavyweight "boxers" and more heavyweight "punchers." The whole buzz about Fury was him being a heavyweight that boxed like a super middleweight. So taking his time with Wilder makes sense if you're worried about getting clobbered once by Wilder. With Ngannou, I think a lot of people are overlooking the fact that Fury's team didn't know what to train for and Ngannou's MMA skills would be such a benefit. Ngannou getting out of Fury's clinches with sheer strength was probably unexpected by everyone except Ngannou's team. Same with Joshua v Ruiz; Joshua wasn't prepared for a shorter dude whose hands were that fast. And, Joshua probably didn't think Ruiz had it in him on such short notice. Great video as always! In terms of young heavyweights, I'm stoked for Richard Torrez Jr. to finally face some tough opposition and same with Jared Anderson
@BiggieTrismegistus
@BiggieTrismegistus 4 ай бұрын
I don't know why Fury's team would have been surprised out Ngannou being able to get out of clinches. In boxing you're not supposed to clinch but in MMA it's allowed so Ngannou has been training to handle clinches his whole career. Obviously Ngannou's enormous strength helps too.
@stevecamarillo4974
@stevecamarillo4974 4 ай бұрын
@@BiggieTrismegistus - Thats a good point. I guess more so than clinching, Fury tends to... drape himself over his opponents? And Ngannou was able to just push Fury off a lot of the time cause of how strong he is
@levied8970
@levied8970 4 ай бұрын
Happy to see TJ shout out proppa boxing
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