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[@TDMHeyzeus]

Harassment of any type of anybody in this video is utterly condemned. This video is not about Phantoml0rd. Behave yourselves.

[@cryogie2041]

Ok Mr Zeus

[@m4a1snerfed]

m4a1s is still overpowered and csgo devs don't care about balance therefore it's a waste of time to play csgo

[@durchfaII]

@@m4a1snerfed it seems someone doesn't have a life

[@ginger5668]

But.. 👉👈 chaos

[@Biazyn]

@@m4a1snerfed Honestly, mate. I feel like you can't just move on from CSGO and I feel sad for you. I played other games other than csgo and I'm still feeling fine with it. You could learn a thing or two

[@vooCSGO]

Thorin's problem, IMO, is that he often takes strong ideological stands for what he thinks is right, and is annoying about them. When he does it for the right reason (ex: not working with ESL because they robbed NA of hard earned slots) people forget the original (good) reason, and he just comes off to a lot of people as annoyingly self-righteous. When he does it for what people believe to be the wrong reason, it's never forgotten.

[@xlixity]

It seems that was a lesson he taught Frosk well .

[@guhaonkar]

I literally just read that in your voice.

[@sono6084]

Make a video about vertigo. Pls

[@conormcfire]

True, but at least he actually has principles and will stick to them though! Unlike many of the fake people who work in eSports.

[@j04kimkristy81]

Personally I wouldnt work for ESL as they are owned by the Saudi and I like my homosexual friends with their head still on their body

[@user-br6bk9kt9z]

the dude just picked a lot of wierd hills to die on for absolutely no reason

[@Flashv28]

yeah, that sums it up

[@DamianSzajnowski]

Dying on multiple hills consecutively or even simultaneously sounds frightening

[@RumandCocaine]

Rather die to something that you think is morally right or just take the money and shut up.

[@shadowboy2417]

Better to die defending your beliefs than bending the knee to ESL that is owned by the Saudi government

[@CurbsideT]

Going on a podcast with Destiny was the first mistake, he was doomed from that point onwards

[@PlutoQT]

He came out better than jontron, at least 😭

[@zzyphrr3364]

Not destiny 2? Smh

[@Frizzyy]

@@PlutoQT yeaah that does not take much lol

[@m4a1snerfed]

m4a1s is still overpowered and csgo devs don't care about balance therefore it's a waste of time to play csgo

[@yaphetkotto7516]

Thats forsure a girls name.

[@JakoDaFuzZ]

I used to like Thorin because I thought he wasnt scared of speaking his mind when teams played bad. But until this video I completely lost track of him. Thank you for the update :D

[@BretuLauk]

I mean as well as I remember especially from 2013-2016. He was really well liked.

[@SKILLZxNiNjAz]

Theres a lot of details missed but he still makes good content and is really miss represented :D I dont look at twitter but youtube is great

[@UNATCOHanka]

I asked him on a tweet why he put Liquid to go 3-0 and he just blocked me. Chad.

[@drmedcheems]

a modern classic

[@nibha8]

His child asked if he could have his breakfast and guess what he did

[@Oatmeal_cj]

@@nibha8 💀

[@m4a1snerfed]

m4a1s is still overpowered and csgo devs don't care about balance therefore it's a waste of time to play csgo

[@JarinCOD]

GIGACHAD

[@alicia-tb2gg]

It is absolutely bizarre how staunchly he stands by his takes on players. The CS scene is CONSTANTLY changing, new talents rise, old players have comebacks that no one could've seen coming- but most importantly than that, I think the one thing the community values is respect for the legends of the game. It's pretty obvious that a lot of hate for Thorin is because of how strongly he doubles down on usually controversial statements, but goddamn it is avoidable when it comes to the game and players aspect.

[@user-cc3ef7qh1x]

shroud is the most overrated player in cs history

[@wrx1th873]

@@user-cc3ef7qh1x agreed

[@misterio10gre]

I mean his criticism of Niko is a good example about how his criticism isn't unfounded

[@DanishVikings]

so does thorin when it benefits the story he is telling. Then respect is very important, but he wants the respect for him and his peers, not the one he wants to shit on

[@tolland4433]

Even if it may be bizarre, I think that the fact it is constantly changing is why people need to make less of a big deal of what he says. If the scene wasn't constantly changing and he blatantly devalued the best players or team it would make way more sense for people to bash him, no? Because the fact that the scene changes a lot more now than it has in various points in the past is why I think his takes and their controversial status make a lot more sense and why they shouldn't be branded as idiotic.

[@13thforswarn]

I think you missed a key detail. After ESL stole Pro League spots from teams that had qualified for that league, Thorin refused to work with ESL until they publicly apologized for it and fired the people who had made the decision. ESL obviously didn't do this, but guess who also runs like 80% of the CSGO circuit? That's right, ESL. You also didn't mention that the fallout with his tweet exchange with Dev1ce was that Blast wouldn't work with him anymore unless he made several concessions regarding what he could and couldn't tweet (if I recall correctly), which he refused to do. Anyway, it's not surprising that he's doing less events now as a result of these two things.

[@MrExplicit19]

You're right, and the issue with Blast was specifically about what he could and couldn't say about Bl(astralis)

[@Tribe-zr3cv]

I love your skins content but also really love your commitment to addressing broader topics within the CSGO community as a whole

[@IsaacSable]

I like this, you did a fairly good job of remaining impartial. An interesting divergence from skins content, which is a niche, and therefore automatically more difficult to find topics for.

[@saucyaugust3079]

"Fairly good job", do you think that because you agree with him?

[@IsaacSable]

@@saucyaugust3079 Agree with him on what?

[@saucyaugust3079]

@@IsaacSable Bro what

[@chillcast3451]

'Impartial' is a word in the English language that exists that totally shouldn't be used in this context LOL

[@MrChris00078]

@@saucyaugust3079 Just because you may struggle to tell the difference between objective journalism, and an opinion piece you agree with, doesn't mean everyone else does.

[@conradodeoliveiramadeira3881]

Talking about Thorin and Brazil, but not talking about his friendly exchange with kngv that made them not play a single game with the org let me feeling like there's something missing, great documentary still

[@Invulneraty]

mano explica essa ai

[@brownmcjuggernuggets5292]

Prove it or…

[@lorduda]

Sim o cara é preconceituoso pra caralho e tem gente q passa pano

[@josephadcock7449]

Yeah exactly this was not a well done documentary you cannot get all sides on each things in 20 minutes

[@milkyway6284]

good documentary, would love to see more of those , we have/had lots of interesting personalities on csgo scene.

[@Ryhard20]

This maybe an unpopular take, but as someone that follows csgo from early 2014, i actually liked Thooorin the whole way. I like the controversial takes. I like that he doesnt pick and choose what he says he just says it no matter what how outrageous it is. Unfortunatelly for most people the "wrongs" he does will always overshadow the huge amount of great work he did for CSGO as an Esport.

[@jeffnguyen1462]

I somewhat agree with you. But the world we living in, journalists must behave. Beside, if your controversial mouth miss a beat, you're dead so they often choose the safe way.

[@sh1nenkai258]

i agree, his work in the industry interms of making analysis are always bangers, even if he has drama, i never dislike him because his content on people underpeforming or teams not that and this is too fire he is doing his job, as an analyst and journalist, yes he may take it far but thats his job and i guess philosophy, be true

[@t.w.videos1739]

Honestly i quite like him maybe since i dont use twitter but his videos are quite insightful and are quite fun to watch as someone who started playing in 2018 and learning about things in 2005-2017

[@minimachomudkip6017]

Yea man respect your own opinion I didn’t find anything he said to be awful

[@thelabs7128]

@@minimachomudkip6017 exactly. All these “controversies” are so tame.

[@jahmsey]

it’s a shame because he had such potential to be the “bad cop” journalist of csgo but he just couldn’t keep his mouth shut

[@zifru]

He was also dogshit and annoying, middle age man who was never even competent at the game, just cringe

[@Setashi]

He's honestly a perfect example of being able to dish it out while not being able to handle any criticism in return. It's kind of funny how sensitive he is given how much he's attacked others for supposedly being overly sensitive in the past lmao.

[@rdbh8758]

He wanted to be Stephen a smith/max Kellerman so bad but esports scene doesn’t really like that style of commentary

[@fern3436]

@@rdbh8758 I think that commentary has less weight amidst the controversy. It's much harder to see someone's side when they aren't able to remain professional. It's one thing just to have hot takes on a sport, another to be an ugly person all the time.

[@travenir]

"this journalist just could't keep his mouth shut about stuff i like"

[@TYLERLOVESBMX1]

Ive always loved thorin. No one comes close to his content and analytical standpoint and his ability to cross over ideas from real sports to esports. Thorin is a great person in the scene.

[@bucklax31]

Met Thorin at MLG Columbus, nice guy but he was very awkward. However, Moses and Chris Puckett might have been two of the nicest, most down to earth people.

[@LMW87MMA]

I believe he is on the spectrum, so it’s not surprisingly that he wouldn’t be great at a casual interaction with a stranger

[@jaketremblay123]

Theres a thin line between having unpopular takes and just being negative and rude. Most people who claim to "tell it how it is" are just looking for an excuse to say irresponsible things, and the worst part is they're rewarded for it with attention.

[@Carreau-sama]

It's a lot easier to like people like Thorin and Richard Lewis if you don't follow or pay attention to their twitter. Just from a content perspective, their desk work during tournaments, their interviews, articles, podcasts and things were always some of the best in the esports scene. But they are both constantly on twitter and have a need to engage and argue on there was always going to either eventually burn them out on the scene or destroy them. It's a shame as I always appreciate people willing to call out org's, players, and anyone else for bullsh*t or playing badly/not doing enough and I don't think we get enough of that outside of them.

[@WARnTEA]

Thats definitely it. On any type of comment section it doesn’t really matter what you say there will always be someone that hates your opinion. I think those two guys are great examples of people that don’t respect their audience because from their perspective they are surrounded by idiots. This lack of respect, while funny sometimes, usually rubs people the wrong way. They fall into the trap of calling people idiots, which is really not a useful thing to do, because no idiot was ever accused of being an idiot, and was inspired to self reflect and agree that yes, “I am and Idiot, lets change that”. No, the idiots will always be idiots. It especially doesn’t help that idiots also call other people idiots, it all just devolves into namecalling and a waste of time. You can’t help people that don’t want help.

[@niallll]

24:31 heyzeus: "trust the numbers, not your gut" *my whole life has been a lie*

[@CuzTyler]

When Thorin is professional he is by far my favorite esports related figure. Guy offers years of insight and always stands by the players. I just wish the dude would have deleted twitter years ago.

[@julianwidjaja4896]

20:45 never let your enemy know your next move

[@weeznax]

Loved the conclusion - awesome video!

[@xami5511]

I mean Poland is a very big part of CSGO in EU, so it's not hard to see why so many people dislike him

[@Cherry_Cherri]

Very nice video, kinda new to csgo lore or whatever but I learned a lot and enjoyed it. Love the effort and KZbin better not do some funny business with add revenue here

[@friddlefries1140]

It’s wild to see Thorin have beef with different faction of esports. The 3 main esports I watch are CS, OW, and CoD…he(and Richard Lewis) had some form of issues with all 3, multiple times. I think it’s that he is a decent analyst and has knowledge on esports but he just has so many emotional outbursts and reactions to things and just doesn’t act professional at times He makes it too easy to make fun of him and get under his skin

[@saberterminal871]

Thorin being considered a journalist is hilarious. The guy digs around for drama more than anything. He's basically the DramaAlert of CS

[@tylerguerrero1312]

Keep making videos, I'm excited for source 2 coming for release and I'm wondering how it's gonna affect the market and you're the best one to explain that

[@NoelRandom]

if thorin hasn't blocked you on twitter, what are you even doing with your life?

[@coloassalchips]

he blocked me cuz i tagged him on twitter showing that i got a diamond coin and im more of an esports historian than him lmaoo

[@fnx26]

@@coloassalchips ahahaha thorin is an actual loser, man has some deep childhood trauma probably from bullying

[@saucyaugust3079]

@@coloassalchips *Predicts future* = "I am such a historian"

[@meIlovv]

Laughing instead of getting offended. 😂

[@Luckyyshot]

If you're complaining about a notable figure online has blocked you, then you need to go outside more. In other words: Why would you care?

[@purplc6824]

When you said "How has this star-analyst turned into a such wildly disliked guy" is expected you just gonna say "twitter" and end the video right there

[@OneMoreDesu]

Thorin is a good representation of esports. Ethuggery, attitude, no holds barred; all what gaming used to be before it became widespread to low competitiveness individuals

[@stefan3597]

Ive always loved listening to his "counter points" podcast. Havent done so in a few years tho but I never realised he was so hated back then

[@NotoriousFisher]

I love thorin’s content to this day. You have to many “yes men” and people who are too scared to damage their careers to have “hot takes”. He doesn’t give a flip and I love it.

[@s0meRand0m129]

thats what journalist do

[@davidnymann5423]

Hot takes are fine but a lot of the time he doesn't seem to even know anything about the game so instead he just chooses to say incendiary things about people/orgs in the scene.

[@NotoriousFisher]

@@davidnymann5423 I mean, working 8 majors you’d think he knows a thing or two. I’ve been watching pro cs before I started watching thorin and the same exact situations and things happen repeatedly and he knows it. He knows the inner workings of this scene like no one else. Yet people like you probably get a hard on for people like danish leaks, neL, and slasher.

[@digojez]

@@NotoriousFisher while I agree a guy like him is what esport needs, he tends to make himself looks like a clown for blocking people that mildly offend him. He managed to kill his own reputations by picking the wrong fights.

[@anD_halfwayCrook]

But he only accepts yes men around himself... try disagreeing with him on twitter

[@sushx21]

Either he has L takes or BASED takes, there's no in-between

[@haz226]

I never heard of this guy before (like actually) and holy 11 minutes in, there is so much lore. It feels like 100 years worth of information lmao

[@BloodyComedyy]

So much research and footage has flown into this video wow!

[@rbz0]

Very balanced video, I enjoyed it.

[@harleyHDz]

While this is great Its slightly disingenuous in that the "decline of his career" is based off of twitter followings and major tournament attendance. I'd be interested to hear what he could be up to from behind the scenes or outside of esports, I understand you can only go so far with investigative journalism but I bet reaching out to the guy wouldn't be hard.

[@Angrynood]

True, but it might be hard. Not everyone wants to tell their side. Even harder when it could be potentially a lie or half-truth. But we'll never know.

[@splittedspark1675]

This is not even close to the limits of investigative journalism

[@Rogueist]

But then you'd have to interact with him.

[@harleyHDz]

@@Rogueist Not necessarily, have you ever seen Nardwuar?

[@DanishVikings]

agree i do see him as hard blacklisted from alot of people, maybe the player association, we wont do interviews if he is there and stuff like that.

[@tobashi4094]

Hey Zeus, Love the Videos. Wanted to start a channel similar to this one, and Disrupt. Wondering what microphone your using / recommend, would mean alot!

[@Terru]

Today, calling people “Monkeys” is the average.

[@NerreraFightStories]

Thorin and Richard Lewis are like case studies for the impact of being terminally online. Both of them are middle aged men who let internet comments, criticism and opinions take up way too much space in their heads and let social media turn them into negative, cynical and frankly unhappy people. Not trying to hate, both of them are capable of great things but sad to see the effects of years and years of social media impacting them the way it does, neither of them come across as positive or optimistic people.

[@m4a1snerfed]

internet comments affect everyone and everything. jan 6 was started with internet comments, qanon was started with internet comments, many mass shootings started with internet comments. governments have to completely censor social media because it's being used to either spread propaganda or shit down on people who aren't rich or don't look like they were running and dancing since they were 6 years old.

[@JT-qc4zq]

Pot meet kettle you cretin lmao

[@BeBarnee]

Couldn't have said it better

[@railguncs]

the people unhappy are not them, are the snowflakes

[@railguncs]

@@olsaaan like the brazilians? the people who takes too seriously are the snowflakes IMO

[@karrawr9538]

Wow I never knew he made tweets defending Alex Jones post Sandy Hook, that's a special kind of fucked up. And his excuse is just dumb. "I wouldn't claim to know enough about the Sandy Hook shooting. I don't know what why he said what he said, but I believe he has since said he was wrong about it". Maybe do research about subjects like this before making comments about them then? You'd think a journalist would understand this

[@JayVeeDee]

the banger runescape music in the beginning....I'm already hooked haha

[@omgdisfunny4852]

It's one of those times where his personality helps in some areas and dooms him in others, he's extremly logical so when talking about Cs, joining/leaving teams etc he makes total sense because he's using information and logic, but then that also leads him to have some questionable opinions on things outside of the game that's not agreed with Like the Poland thing, he's not necessarily wrong. But he probably just shouldn't of said it

[@shadowyogi3921]

Good take

[@nikolastoyanov9696]

Incredibly bad take mate. Wad he right??? He was. Is that a bad thing? No! It should be encouraged. Grow a spine

[@LMW87MMA]

@@nikolastoyanov9696something being arguably factual doesn’t mean you have to shout about it. If you walk down the street telling every fat person you see that they’re fat and every ugly person that they’re ugly - those are factual statements, but you will obviously encounter some very negative consequences

[@PapaSam88]

I don't agree with everything Thorin has said, as I don't with any other people, but I must admit when he is on the desk it's pretty entertaining to listen

[@fundamentalnatureavoidingb7982]

tru

[@sword3197]

Yeah, I feel like watching the analyst desk at tournaments, even the recent major, is hella boring. They have a bunch of people who to be honest lack a lot of personality, they are boring. They got pimp who kinda takes up the other side but he’s just annoying for me

[@alcazar9266]

@@sword3197 pimps voice is just so irritating.

[@7eis]

Clean crisp lock, Heyzeus

[@liamhowlin5936]

Seeing that Destiny and Thorin at one point on a podcast together is insane LOL

[@gosshawk]

I drink mouthwash when I get thirsty

[@lukiewookipookie9264]

Be careful bro, could become an alcoholic

[@dozerunknown]

same

[@m4a1snerfed]

m4a1s is still overpowered and csgo devs don't care about balance therefore it's a waste of time to play csgo

[@MrChris00078]

@@m4a1snerfed Oh god stop already

[@synotheman]

@@m4a1snerfed The M4A4 is literally better. Lmao imagine getting triggered by a game.

[@kaMosGO]

I think you missed out on one huge controversy with the "Prove it or..." that probably lead to the initial dislike received from Brazil-CS towards him concluding in burning hate ^^

[@Opwout]

gotta love the runescape background music, keep it up :)

[@Prenderrem]

Phillip made a mountain from a mole hill, saw bad feelings where there were none, and in general just outed himself as a complete weirdo.

[@vivekbure98]

Some of the content he makes is still best in the industry like the Reflections podcast. I really like the fact that he sometimes have guests from Quake about whom no one has ever heard and tells their story.

[@marconel9189]

Reflections and "Who is [X]" are precious content only Thorin can produce

[@Aikavaeltaja]

Thorin really showed his true colours in the petty feud he had with 3kliksphilip

[@earlmarvin8025]

Was expecting a hit piece but this was a great vid!

[@tiger_of_kai]

20:45 this gets me everytime haha

[@kingz7151]

Probably the most interesting character you've covered, great video.

[@s1mo-RBC]

I love Thorin. You might disagree with his takes and he can be petty and vindictive but his reputation for integrity is impeccable. He’s also a lot more important to the scene than people care to admit. He’s very intelligent and has given his life to the game and I for one appreciate it.

[@FSGoingStraight]

This couldve been his legacy. But he couldnt keep his mouth shut.

[@Luckyyshot]

@@FSGoingStraight He's human like the rest of us, so why not just ignore his flaws and appreciate the work he's done for the scene?

[@Arthur-uo8kw]

@@FSGoingStraight about what exactly ?

[@BlackestGnomey]

this boutta be good video fr

[@ickyconcrete5370]

Ah, worst comes to worst, he can always do case unboxing videos!

[@Idbn]

Imagine niko decided to donate the money to a charity in Poland lol that would be some trollery

[@ins4n1tycs3]

🤣

[@red-hot]

Thorin is a thorn in everyone's side.

[@BoysNoize26]

love it. keep up the esports content

[@patrlim]

3:06 as a pole this is true

[@Leah_Newton]

😂 So people just hate Thorin because he is 1. unpopular; 2. being straight, rude and upfront on things; 3. willing to speak from a different perspective than the general public. He warned us of Regi yrs ago; he told us about Danny as well; he did a long discussion on women and esports long before the whole movement began. He might be rude and direct all the time, sometimes, he speaks of the truths and that's what he does. As always, the truth is never subtle and soothing. But yeah, children are always more than the adults. A smack on the head is a wake-up call not exactly an abuse, but these days, kids will say you are abusing them anyway. Funny thing, his videos might not always have high views, but his subscriber number is growing since. In contrary, Travis is losing subscribers. Hating a man for being rude is one thing, but when he speaks of the truths, you listen to that. Who can be always right on predictions anyway? Not even Crumbz The Prophet got everything perfectly right. YamatoCannon is downright harsh on LCS PA's demands and how immature they are; Thorin at least isn't that strong on that. Also, time will tell who's telling the truth, and you know damn right, Thorin is mostly a bit closer to the truth. (But yeah, Alex Jones part, he should have just kept to talking about eSports like he does now! 😂 Never talk about something you didn't do a long hard amount of research)

[@MiLk-ie8yh]

Thorin and RL are pretty similar in that both have done so much for esports but both manage to basically piss off everyone they interact with online for the weirdest reasons while still maintaining an ego about their achievements

[@xlixity]

They've only pissed off redditors. Not actual people.

[@FSGoingStraight]

@@xlixity You are aware that a large portion of those "redditors" are people active in esports and such? Makes sense for them to be online alot, dont you think?

[@xlixity]

@@FSGoingStraight Like who? "Large portion"? LMAO no. 4-12 people is not a large portion anywhere.

[@lol-fs9rr]

@@FSGoingStraight redditors arnt people

[@Luckyyshot]

Thorin can be cringe at times, but people who aren't cave dwellers can easily tolerate those oddities. Richard is *very* extra in arguments, and can be really hard to follow at times, but again no one is forced to follow his interaction online (which I stopped for that exact reason). If you're actually someone who goes around being outraged at people like Thorin and Richard, then you need to take a *long hard* look at your own life.

[@Sorter18]

23"15 is the biggest uno reverso card I have seen so far !

[@PunkFrost]

Thorin's a legend

[@Sunrunner663]

If game journalists dislike him, he must have done a lot right.

[@manbeast_cs]

if you got beef with 3kliksphilip and Moist Critikal you know you are the problem.

[@bay0r]

yeah, right. i mean ridiculing the way he speaks and not thinking you (Thorin&lewis) are the problem here is a bit delusional.

[@0715yt]

Bro holy shit lmao thorin has beef with Critikal?

[@prawtism]

@@bay0r calling out autistic behavior as a fellow autist is somehow worse than trying to undermine someone's livelihood by questioning their journalistic integrity with 0 evidence? What did you smoke?

[@manbeast_cs]

@@hater27 ok provide one example where he misinformed the public? and did not later correct himself? I will wait...

[@willmcpherson2]

"NOBODY'S THAT NICE" 😂

[@Sigma1]

3:02 I'm Polish and I do find it funny rather than offensive.

[@FormerGovernmentHuman]

Maybe i’m just a different breed, but I love Thorin. I may disagree with every other word that comes out of his mouth but I respect him, well maybe that is too strong of a word but I enjoy him. Honestly the internet and society has just become such a soft place that these minor comments have such negative consequences.

[@PlayboiMcChicken]

Speaking your mind is an admirable trait, and not a bad trait. It's maturity and understanding when and where to inject your opinion. I feel he isn't malicious at first, he typically has sound arguments, but then he lets emotions come into play. And once he gets emotional he says stupid stuff.

[@uselma]

thorin did a lil trolling thats all

[@UnfeelingMonster]

Incredible video, love to see it

[@maxxdhaliwal]

It’s all about control at the end of the day Zeus it’s really about someone’s personality and ability to think and know what to do

[@Clepston]

The most interesting part of this video is how bad it makes Slasher look. Dude has one comeback, and it’s “you make the esports community look bad.” I’ve always disliked Thorin because, to me, he’s always seemed very arrogant, which I dislike; but this video managed to make me lose respect for Slasher, too, which is impressive.

[@FlurryMainchin]

Twitter makes literally everyone look bad. I thank myself every day for not using the platform lol I appreciate the content that Thorin puts up most of the time. I see the arrogance as part of a character he's playing for his work, as well as a coping mechanism. Dude obviously has some issues socially. I think it, as a coping mechanism, helps him push thru certain things and get his work done, so it's hard to take it (the arrogance) seriously or be offended by it for me personally. But I can't fault anyone for being rubbed the wrong way by it. There's def loads of talking heads out there that rub me the wrong way as well, and maybe some of those are cases of me just not understanding the person.

[@BottoEntertainment]

I used to work with him during his tenure at SK, between 2009 and 2012. He has a strong work ethic, with a drive that is second-to-none. Though, he also has a difficult personality that is alienatory, which drove most of the SK staff (and apparently his subsequent collaborators) away, destabilizing the website into oblivion, which the German management shrugged off with, "We don't like him, but hey, he does his job". He's very vindictive; once you are on his bad side (which most of the staff was), you stay there in indemnity - it's for this reason that I'm surprised that he & Richard Lewis became such close friends. For all his faults, however, he never once seemed even remotely misogynistic or racist.

[@mach1neg]

didnt realise people didnt like thorin, he was always my favourite analyst, cause he took analysing the most seriously. treating cs more like sport than esport

[@WindKaze]

Haven't watched Heyzeus in awhile and somehow he sounds more Australian than back in 2020

[@lotsofthc]

He blocked the whole csgo trading community in 2019 that was a great achievement to us at the time

[@pede6272]

11:35 Let's not act like that wasn't kinda funny though

[@A_B_C_D_E_F_G_H_I]

I could've sworn i turned down my osrs sounds, but it was your video lmao

[@Vigilant69]

Heyzeus casually referencing animes thinking all his viewers understand the context baffles me xD

[@8000_k]

he was a pretty funny guy,i enjoyed him, hope to see more of him in the future maybe

[@IBradFrazer]

What is even funnier about Thorin was his Antwerp pick'em's. He failed to get 5 correct during the challenger stage - literally the first stage 😂🤣💀

[@SaltSpirits]

i’ve literally never done pickems in my life, i got into watching competitive csgo this major, bought the pass after challengers stage was locked and *still* got a Gold coin. Thorin got silver. What does that tell you about how much he knows?

[@IBradFrazer]

@@SaltSpirits Very true. However, Thorin only got 4 out of 5 picks correct for the challenger stage, so no silver coin. He got stuck with what is essentially a participation trophy, which is the bronze coin.

[@julmdamaslefttoe3559]

I creased when I heard the 3kliksphillip beast, ahahahahaah "Hello...how are YOU doing" "oh shit he does talk like that"

[@rajivrathod132]

Amazing video..liked your effort

[@Rcb4th]

Huh, I didn't know anything about the guy. Wish I could go back to that

[@DevynPlaysGames]

say what you will about thorin. people in the esports scene still respect him and value his opinions. look at who he regularly talks to: richard lewis, spunj, moses, mauisnake, etc.

[@kronos_1337.]

19:19 hello thorin have you been enjoying the event

[@danielaleksanderheide1039]

love the runescape music in the background

[@Xzartol]

ive never heard of this guy thorin and after this video i probably will forget about him again i am glad to say

[@JaimieWFYT]

I can understand when people say they dislike Thorin for a multitude of reasons, but I’ll never get when people claim to have never heard of him, despite obviously harbouring a negative opinion of him. This channel is primarily CS related, and unless you started following the scene after the major, you would 100% have seen something Thorin controversy“I am esports”, “Fallen is overrated” etc. Like if you don’t like him, you don’t like him, but acting like this is the first mention of his name you’ve seen is just absurd.

[@Xzartol]

@@JaimieWFYT i play cs but dont watch any content about it other than the occasional case unboxing maybe i have seen that dude inna clip before of something bit i genuinely didnt hear of this dude b4 the vid on him and likely wont hear about him again sinse i dont follow esports related content, it seemed as though he is only really relative to esports so it cant be unheard of that people dont know or care who he is bro lol

[@Yukari_MAiG]

Like him or not. People can't deny he is one of those that produce top quality content about esport out there. You know, actual content that's not clickbait or just copying others.

[@DestinyApes]

This man really putting OSRS soundtracks on CS vids lol

[@Yomom12388]

Thorin has always been the poster child for people who enjoy sniffing their own farts. The dude absolutely just likes to hear himself talk and things he’s the smartest guy in the room. He just grinds people’s gears. Honestly I think a lot of people like Thoorin forget that at the end of the day you’re still a niche “celebrity” who only a relatively small group of people recognize. Like CSGO is great but back when I used to be into the community more I noticed it was filled with people who forgot that they’re just nerds talking about a head clicking simulator. I’m not cool and they’re not cool, yet they act like d-bags a lot of the time.

[@TehDassrull]

Thorin watcher since his earliest reflections interviews. He has done so much for esports, we should put some respect on his name and work

[@kanarieV3]

literally never heard of him 💀

[@InfamousKicker]

Here’s your internet points

[@kanarieV3]

@@InfamousKicker thanks

[@mr_edibles]

Thx you for this video

[@luca7675]

I only follow his CS stuff on youtube which, recently, hasnt been much, but i always thought his content was very interesting and insightful. He has a lot of inside information and as far as i know, never threatened or hurt anyone. He is just very edgy. If you can look past that, he provides some of the best csgo content on youtube. (ppl seem upset about his tweets etc- i have no idea what you guys are talking about since i dont have twitter. If there has been anything noteworthy, feel free to point it out to me)

[@andriusbendoraitis3171]

Make sure to follow 'Insight on Esports CS:GO' yt channel, that's where most of his CS:GO content is now.

[@luca7675]

@@andriusbendoraitis3171 ohh i didnt know. Thank you so much for telling me :D

[@osauria98]

I always liked him, and really wanted to take his side on things but often found myself being like "really dude? Just shut the fuck up". I stopped watching by the numbers because of the 3kliksphilip thing, and I'd loved that show. But I hated both those guys' attitudes whenever they got beefed, as though they couldn't handle it despite being very opinionated, vocal people in the community