How to build a hydrogen car (The engine)

[@smokyatgroups]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge experience and advice with us, it was very generous to do this.

[@Hydrogenguys]

Glad it was helpful!

[@aero9009]

Great video. WITTS has a way to modify the burn time of HHO so it burns slower, more like propane so you don't need as much gas and you don't need to modify the engine. A car is difficult to do, 10kw generator is the easiest.

[@Hydrogenguys]

Thanks for the info!

[@bartekburmistrz8679]

? Could you give some more info on this/a link

[@aero9009]

@@bartekburmistrz8679 they are setting up private partnerships, you have to contact them on their website

[@182mcg1]

Use lpg ecu and sequence lpg gas injectors 60psi working fine

[@BrewedMotorsports]

❤ happy to help with any data analysis or ecu tuning for the hydrogen projects. Feel free to email us directly anytime let’s get that hydrogen engine running as smooth as possible!

[@Hydrogenguys]

Awesome, thank you!🙏

[@jednjo]

What did you set the ignition timing for? Thanks so much for the info.

[@Hydrogenguys]

This engine has variable ignition timing. So at idle speed it was set to 0 degrees (TDC) and slow advanced to 5 degrees at max rpm. This isn’t the ideal timing but safe instead

[@jednjo]

@@Hydrogenguys Did you use a propane carburetor that you adjusted like on your smaller engines? If I wanted to do this what would I need to do?

[@wiskimike]

Watching with big interesst as Im in a which produces PEM electrolyszer Stacks for hydrogenproduction. 🙂 Keep on mate 💪🏻

[@Hydrogenguys]

That’s ace! Thankyou for the support. PEM stacks can be used to create pure hydrogen at one output and pure oxygen at the other right?

[@wiskimike]

@@Hydrogenguys yes indeed. Ultra pure water, some electricity and you get hydrogen and oxigen. In our case 40barg and with experimental units over 100barg. Advantage of PEM is that they are very responsive. So usage for regenerative energy is perfect 👍🏻

[@nanaforson8223]

My vehicle is matiz II which runs on LPG as fuel. Can I maintain the LPG setup and use the hydrogen instead of LPG?

[@robertlukic67]

I think not because you can store too little of it. Because hydrogen is not dense at all, you need a lot of it. The pressure in an LPG tank would be too high.

[@jpw9898]

Would an external oil/water separator setup benefit the build or reduce the oil contamination issue any?

[@Hydrogenguys]

Maybe, I use an oil catch can which helps a lot

[@chrishenniker5944]

What about a dual fuel set up, where you can use both pump gas and hydrogen? If I was using hydrogen in that Renault engine, I’d bolt it up to a Mazda mx5 or RX8 gearbox and stick it in a Ford Pop or 100E.

[@garymeredith2441]

Tell us about the conversion you did to run from gas to hydrogen and how is the fuel made into hydrogen .

[@Hydrogenguys]

Hi, the gas used was 99.8% pure and was bought pre bottled, I talk about the conversion in this video and the video showing the fuel tank. Hope this helps

[@Sir_One_1]

For power sake, the made a D4F engine with turbo, soo if you find one its pretty much a straight swap

[@Hydrogenguys]

That would be perfect! When running hydrogen with port injection forced induction is needed to get back some of the lost power. Thanks for the info

[@Squadalha]

What about the gas tank? If it was a normal petrol car before ,you had to change that too, right?

[@albertmaina1025]

Not bad actually, but I noticed you said hydrogen was expensive, why not use solar and water electrolysis. Granted the solar panels aren't particularly cheap but no inverter needed it's a DC supply. Then make more of these engines and sell them.

[@danmaycock9238]

You can also use urea and ammonia to produce Hydrogen 👍

[@Hydrogenguys]

It’s an ace idea, this car runs on pure hydrogen though, so the electrolysis machine would have to output pure hydrogen and pressurise it to 150bar or so, that’s where it gets tricky. No impossible by any means

[@newtonfirefly3584]

@hydrogenguys; For efficient hydrogen production read, comprehend, implementation form simple water with the public patents from Stanley Meyer, better still for on-demand implement his patents. For ECU, there are better options which completely replace the OEM as FuelTech, MoTech, HalTech, etc. Stanley Meyer managed to implement his on-demand system with a simple 1.1 L VW engine with none of the other modifications You describe The Stanley Meyer patent, design, implementation has the water to H2 + O2 conversation to inject directly into the cylinder as fuel injection. If You are an engineer or scientist along with advanced mechanic, it seems that You will manage to duplicate his patents easily, properly, perhaps even develop a simple kit for all to use. Also, look into using highest quality rings from Total Seal, synthetic oil/lubrication [Amsoil is Best] All The Best, Sincerely

[@SandyMunro-dc5np]

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[@wowwilfred]

Instead of pressurizing the hydrogen, could you use a very efficient electrolysis hydrogen/oxygen generator? Is there a reason it needs to be pressurized?

[@3xeplodng_3agle_studios]

Keeps it dense, storing hydrogen gas is extremely difficult. It defuses through and/or embrittles just about anything it touches, after awhile. Not to mention, as mentioned in the video, its a very sparse gas, not dense. If you just pumped to atmospheric, there wouldn't be very much there. Liquid would be much better but the system for that would be far more complex and expensive.

[@3xeplodng_3agle_studios]

Hey! @Hydrogenguys thanks for the heart, coming from you/someone alike, that actually genuinely means something.

[@Hydrogenguys]

Anytime, it was the perfect reply to a good question, Thankyou for the comments

[@newtonfirefly3584]

@wowwilfred; The best is using on-demand, separation as Stanley Meyer developed - see his public patents; thus simple water is all that is required Stanley Meyer on-demand hydrogen generation, separation of water into H2 + O2 is accomplished to directly inject them into the cylinder as fuel injection. @3xeloding_3age_studios; also see Stanley Meyer patents @Hydrogenguys; also You will benefit greatly, perhaps also manage to duplicate, produce the components, results, successfully too. All The Best, Sincerely :-)

[@slimmcslim]

Have to tested how much Hydrogen you go through in how many miles? Also the cat back O2, any customization there?

[@Hydrogenguys]

I think I mentioned the consumption in another video, it was crazy high, 72lpm or something, no modification to the exhaust except for increased flow (less restricted) encase of back fire

[@slimmcslim]

@ ok. How big is your rank? Sorry I haven’t watched all your content yet. I’m prepping to do something similar in the states. Trying the gauge how much hydrogen I need for a track car.

[@YaketyYakDontTalkBack]

Ah, i thought you'd have to use a direct injection system. Good info mate.

[@Hydrogenguys]

Direct injection would be a lot better, but port injection still works. Glad you found it helpful

[@Milaang09]

Maybe if you change the AFR by putting more air and less hydrogen at low speed and high speed you leave the same volume of hydrogen you have but more air might be better because you will consume less and more power

[@Milaang09]

Or if you can change the AFR by putting more air and less hydrogen when you press the accelerator from 0% to 50% and from 50% to 100% you leave the same volume of hydrogen that you have but a little more air and the ideal would be to leave the same volume of air and less hydrogen from 0% to 25% of the accelerator and from 25% to 50% you put a little less hydrogen than you normally have and more air than you normally have and from 50% to 70% you put a little more hydrogen and more air and from 70% to 100% you put more hydrogen and more air I think you have a bigger power and you will consume less

[@Milaang09]

You can estimate how much is the litre per 100 kilometres if possible?

[@Hydrogenguys]

This fuel tank doesn’t last long at all, too small really, I will upload a video about this next Monday hopefully, think I may have mentioned it in the previous hydrogen car video

[@breisch1986]

I'm curious why you say the engine won't last? Is hydrogen combustion especially hard on engines?

[@Hydrogenguys]

Hydrogen can produce a lot more heat than petrol, and more friction as hydrogen is a non lubricant, as this engine was designed for petrol, it’s safe to say the piston rings and sleeves won’t last as long as they would on petrol. These are issues that are solvable if the engine was designed for hydrogen in the first place. Hope this answers your question.

[@breisch1986]

@@Hydrogenguys it did, thank you!

[@Firby1988]

I would like to know more

[@aleksandarpetrovic6613]

​@@Hydrogenguysactually, that is a mit. Hydrogen engine run cooler because is more effective (heat is a waste energy) and because of high flame speed, (less time flame touch metal) and because steam acts like a cooler. Dry fuel is a ridiculous term, engine run better, no carbon deposits (they destroy engine, not clean fuel). This is just about timing, no other problems. They share this ridiculous story because they need to sell new expensive engines, and they don't want to allow to ordinary people build hydrogen powered engines 🙂 I run many engines on gas from the water, and they can't lay to me 🙂

[@vasilispants8241]

If you where to convert it to LPG you would have to use tips with 1.8mm holes to work right. I doubt 440cc petrol injectors can flow as much even with higher pressure. You are running lean!

[@Hydrogenguys]

Honestly not sure, never worked with LPG before, thanks for the info, The 440cc injectors I’m using are more than enough to get the engine going, but it won’t be lean, as the fuel is a gas and not a liquid it fills more of the combustion chamber up in respect to liquid fuel, meaning less oxygen can occupy the chamber, resulting in a rich AF ratio, I believe this is why direct injection would be far better.

[@newtonfirefly3584]

@Hydrogenguys; Clearly You are attempting to use two components, fuel pressure pump and fuel injectors which are neither the correct one for the system nor in combination to achieve the best results. The best is to modify and select the correct, proper, appropriate combination of components for the requirements of the fuel system. Seemingly the best are those with more control for each pressure and injection. The system engineering approach is Best.

[@182mcg1]

Must be separate gas cells oxygen out hydrogen in to the injectors

[@chris01479]

Are you running 100% on hydrogen?

[@Hydrogenguys]

Hi, yes this was 100% pure hydrogen gas.

[@chris01479]

@@Hydrogenguys That's great, did you run without petrol? And how many mpg do you get??

[@ionita.nionita6402]

I want to convert my diesel car in hydrogen. Please give me complete details and contact to discuss

[@Hydrogenguys]

You need spark ignition really, that’s why petrol engines are used.

[@nanaforson8223]

My vehicle is matiz II which runs on LPG as fuel. Can I maintain the LPG setup and use the hydrogen instead of LPG?

[@willgeorge5644]

A coulle of things. Why do you run a rich mixture

[@Hydrogenguys]

Cooling and complexity, as hydrogen is a gas’s it occupies much more of the cylinder then a liquid fuel, meaning less oxygen than normal resulting in a rich mixture, the car needs to be direct fuel injected or forced inducted via supercharger or turbocharger to overcome this. The rich fuel mixture also reduces engine heat, hope this helps :)

[@willgeorge5644]

@@Hydrogenguys it does not result in a rich mixture if you set the mixture correctly, and setting it correctly will result in more power, unlike with a liquid fuel with high heat absorption with evaporation where a rich mixture gives more power because it cools the incoming charge.

[@GeneticallyModifiedInnovations]

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[@newtonfirefly3584]

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[@ionescucatalina3612]

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[@newtonfirefly3584]

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