How To Deeply Connect With A Dismissive Avoidant! (Part 1)

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The Personal Development School

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@ThePersonalDevelopmentSchool
@ThePersonalDevelopmentSchool Жыл бұрын
Let us know if these work for you and your DA partner/friend/family member!
@Dragon007..
@Dragon007.. Жыл бұрын
Where is part 2 and part 3 please? Only part 1 and 4 is on the channel.
@kylahyland7048
@kylahyland7048 11 ай бұрын
Im also looking for part 2?
@ThePersonalDevelopmentSchool
@ThePersonalDevelopmentSchool 11 ай бұрын
Part 2 - kzbin.info/www/bejne/aIamqoqshMehl5ofeature=shared Part 3 - kzbin.info/www/bejne/noC8n2WLgcaAisUfeature=shared Part 4 - kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnzNfHiQe6yjZ5Ifeature=shared @@kylahyland7048
@marleyisms
@marleyisms 10 ай бұрын
If I my DA attempts to cross the no contact, I will give it a try. I'm learning so much from your content. It takes "some" of the guesswork out of the relationship which is exhausting and unnerving most times.
@walkmehome22
@walkmehome22 Жыл бұрын
Not all the AP people clicking on this video even though they're burnt out on their avodiant.
@gala2103
@gala2103 Жыл бұрын
Burned out to the core 🤌
@natzbaby
@natzbaby Жыл бұрын
Lmao. 😅
@BlackIvy
@BlackIvy Жыл бұрын
IM FA and I am BURNT OUT!!!!! But im still here....I kind of hate that about myself
@alissaa2809
@alissaa2809 Жыл бұрын
Or FA haha
@Sarafara7
@Sarafara7 Жыл бұрын
Lmao 😂😂
@ralucamera6574
@ralucamera6574 Жыл бұрын
A relationship is a continuous give and take cycle. If is not reciprocity Between individuals the relationship becomes a struggle.
@rosemaryseed9137
@rosemaryseed9137 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Thais ! This is spot on and thanks for everyone trying to understand us more and empathize because it's really not fun being a DA, it's mostly a lot of fear, just not shown because that's how we learnt to cope. As you said we just need space and time to feel safe, that's really what enables us to open up. I remember explaining to my ex I had my guard up just because of previous bad experiences and so I needed to take things slow, when he took it personnally but it wasn't, but he allowed me time and I ended up trusting him and opening up. The morning slowness is also so fun it's so true ! It's just sometimes we know/feel we don't have the energy and the capacity to answer "well" and that's when we close off because otherwise, any response will be off (or worse, mean ! and we want to avoid that, we don't want to hurt people we love !!) that's what space allows, us to be a good version of ourselves to connect with you the right way. Same with pressure, we've experienced and fear being criticized, pressure just makes it all come back and noone wants to feel like they're being told they're bad when they're just clueless or just scared to express themselves. I'm practicing expressing my needs with my friends and realize I anticipate being critized or denied my needs, but every time they don't criticze me and allow/validate my feelings and needs I'm able to do it a bit more, and trust people and learn to be interdependant. All of that to say, it really helps us when you create a positive environment, you can't do the work instead of a DA or force them, they'll have to want to do it, but they can do it only in a safe environment. ♥
@r_and_a
@r_and_a 10 ай бұрын
as an FA in love with a DA i *really* appreciate those of you who are brave & generous enough to share your perspectives & experiences so that it's easier for those of us trying to empathize to understand 💜 hope your healing journey is going well!
@Sassy387
@Sassy387 11 ай бұрын
This sounds like a lot of work and exhausting to do in a romantic relationship where you want to be reciprocated for your efforts. But this video is definitely helpful if the DA is a family member or a friend.
@0Demiyah0
@0Demiyah0 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your commitment to teaching attachment theory and offering the PDS platform. I've been following your work for 4 years and it has had tremendous effect on myself and my relationship dynamics. ❤ In the current phase of my relationship with my DA I show up as SA (used to be FA). I notice he feels so much more comfortable, safe and intimate with me. He stays at my house 3-4 days a week and we have a lot of cuddle time. We share much more deeply about ourselves. It is a much more reciprocal and mutual connection. The needle has definitely moved in the right direction! 😊
@emilyb5557
@emilyb5557 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Did they shift because of the changes you made in your attachment and behavior or did they also work on themselves?
@0Demiyah0
@0Demiyah0 Жыл бұрын
@@emilyb5557 mostly because I moved towards SA. My belief is that dysfunctional dynamics are sustained by two people - insecurity reacts to insecurity. Once one person is secure in the dynamic, the other has nothing to react to. When their own insecurities do come up, they cannot rationalize your insecurity is the problem. This means they have to go inwards and notice their own insecure patterns when one person is already consistently secure. He feels more comfortable and safe in the relationship, and is also interested in psychiatric and psychotherapeutic help because he sees how coping mechanisms affect him broader than just relationships. It affects him at work too, and that is his livelihood.
@HustleHabit
@HustleHabit Жыл бұрын
@@0Demiyah0 He's willing to do the work... That's the key difference. It's more about who he is, than what you did to change him.
@0Demiyah0
@0Demiyah0 Жыл бұрын
@@HustleHabit yes, absolutely true!
@petern4093
@petern4093 Жыл бұрын
go you!! well done....so excited for what you have learned and absolutely agree with you...when people say run or stay away from a DA I think just do the work on yourself and become the person you want to be and you will be amazed at how people will come around you...super exciting
@jennifercarpenter4760
@jennifercarpenter4760 Жыл бұрын
I love what you said about asking, "Do you need time to yourself?" I like that a great deal and practise it frequently. However, I find that the avoidant may lie due to not wanting to reject. In those cases, I communicate first, "Hey, no rejection towards you, but I need to work through some things in my soul right now, so I might pull away into my own space...but please don't feel rejected...I'm just working through thoughts so I don't get overwhelmed personally". Also, loved the teaching of being direct, honest, and outright to grow closer.
@r_and_a
@r_and_a 10 ай бұрын
saw an analogy elsewhere that *really* helped me acclimate to a DA needing space (as an FA with a DA for nearly 4yrs after an 18month break from after a *very* rocky 6mo or so on & off again connection i *know* them needing space isn't rejecting me but this analogy helps me keep it in context so can feel more secure about it 😇) they said when a DA pulls back, many misunderstand it as initiating a "chase" but to consider it an invitation to "dance" so when they pull back, you do too - not as a "punishment" or control tactic but to complement their "move" & even moreso to focus on filling your own bucket so *both* of you can enjoy the natural rhythm & feel more secure 💜
@petern4093
@petern4093 Жыл бұрын
Wow!! This is so so helpful...I have been dating a seriously DA DA for nearly three years . This download about the specifics is so amazing....she disappeared a few months ago as she has a couple of other times when she gets overwhelmed but I am hoping she comes back. I am so spontaneous, enthusiastic, happy, glass is half full and "let's go" so no wonder she stepped back...I was so clueless but my gosh she is amazing and has the most extraordinary character, talent, world views, empathies, is so so considerate and an absolute joy to be with even when she has any of her very many difficult and darker days but now I can see how I can make her day so much easier by not being so ridiculously insensitive as I have so often been...
@itsspoodini
@itsspoodini Жыл бұрын
Thanks Thais. I'm DA/secure and feel like even when I am open, people are distant with me. Hopefully things can change
@felixtownn
@felixtownn Жыл бұрын
As a FA, I'm noticing that I do that with DAs too. I'll have to work on that.
@ayotfreda5536
@ayotfreda5536 11 ай бұрын
That's a lot of work to love a DA
@joannakijowska3420
@joannakijowska3420 Жыл бұрын
I am FA I overcome long way with the help of this Channel and also with the great guidance of the Word of God ! I am married to DA . I think this is a great combination if they are informed of the differences and knowledge and put it into practice. It can creat a strong relationship .
@r_and_a
@r_and_a 10 ай бұрын
1,000% agree! also an FA with a DA & have found our natural dynamic actually encourages us *both* to work on becoming more secure (thanks a *lot* to the insights i gain through pds 💜) it's always frustrating for me to see comments bashing an entire attachment style, my heart aches for DAs who might see them & also often feel sorry for those so busy judging them rather than trying to understand
@ayotfreda5536
@ayotfreda5536 11 ай бұрын
Whenever this spent a night at my place, he would leave anytime he wanted. But the 2 times I spent the night at his, in the morning it felt like he wants me to leave 😢. Which leaves me puzzled.
@MrBigoncia
@MrBigoncia Жыл бұрын
It's not possible to connect deeply with a DA. It feels like a cold and superficial friendship. Can't help it
@gurlycash7394
@gurlycash7394 Жыл бұрын
I'm DA and if I have to communicate my feelings on the spot, I tend to ramble. If I get time to process, like a day or so I can communicate very well
@Applewictorie
@Applewictorie 5 ай бұрын
Tha k you for sharing this
@Mindlesswanderer12
@Mindlesswanderer12 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@justbehappy...123
@justbehappy...123 9 ай бұрын
Secure person here Married to DA for almost 25 years. If I would have known about attachment styles, I would never ever marry one. It's exhausting and frustrating. Now, I always wonder how it is loved by a secure person. Sad.
@codyjones1098
@codyjones1098 5 ай бұрын
Ive been involved with a Serious DA for about 3 years! Its not worth it at all! Constantly trying to manage a sulking child who gets hurt and shuts down over very small things. Then put myself and feeling unmet for weeks on hold. Cant even mention any needs! Dont waste your life on DA!
@leonieedwards8494
@leonieedwards8494 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Thais! I’m an FA in a relationship with a DA. Your channel has helped reel me back from sabotaging it so many times. I appreciate your info SO much! You’ve helped me to understand myself and him so much more than even my counseling grad school classes have. It all makes sense. Working my way through your classes….Hoping this is the year I can call myself secure. ❤
@r_and_a
@r_and_a 10 ай бұрын
as another FA with a DA absolutely relate to your comment 💜 hope things are going well with your relationship & journey to secure
@leonieedwards8494
@leonieedwards8494 7 ай бұрын
@r_and_a Thank you! Yes! Hanging in there! Riding the ups and downs and learning how to handle our triggers and considerate each other. Such hard work! Hope you’re doing well too!! ❤
@emmaus_way
@emmaus_way Жыл бұрын
Is there a difference between how a DA behaves with friends than to someone who they might have romantic feelings with?.... I have notice how a DA has no issue having contact with friends, joking around, talking to them about their day very casual and normal .... And with me I feel they avoid me even though I try to engage with them in a friendly way and I try to connect but they just put up a wall like it feel as if they don't want to make progress until they feel like it. And this whole situation makes me confused. Thank you in advance.
@andiaayu
@andiaayu Жыл бұрын
Seem like we have same situation. Can we share?
@emmaus_way
@emmaus_way Жыл бұрын
​@@andiaayuyes absolutely! Tell me about your situation 😅
@KajsaBernhardina
@KajsaBernhardina Жыл бұрын
It’s because they are romantically interested in you but they are scared/find it difficult to handle. So they avoid you because it’s easier. I would keep being friendly with them and not expect anything, just be clear if you like them and be casual about it. But definitely hold to your standards and don’t compromise on your basic needs! I would also say try to put yourself in their shoes. Have you ever known someone you thought was super cool but completely out of your league/slightly intimidating? And convinced they would never want to be friends with you because you’re not even close to the same level? That’s what many DA’s subconciously feel about their romantic interests. They admire them and want to be with them, but they feel like they’re completely not on the same level (emotionally) and would make a fool out of themselves even trying. So they take baby-steps towards you. Also remember that they have huge insecurities and don’t want to appear vulnerable. So getting them to be close to you is basically you have to be super encouraging and patient, as if you’re dealing with a child. But you must also set clear expectations so they know what they must work on. Subconciously, they await orders from their love interest. They appreciate if you take the lead romantically and ask them favours, they tend to respond to ”acts of service”, to show you how they feel about you by doing what you ask. But you have to spell it out for them because they lack romantic intuition. It’s not easy and I don’t blame anyone who loses attraction for a DA because they require such patience and delicate handling yet give so little in return.
@emmaus_way
@emmaus_way Жыл бұрын
@@KajsaBernhardina this is a great answer! Thank you for your help. I will just keep being friendly and let things flow while I focus on myself.
@heatherhalloway9573
@heatherhalloway9573 5 ай бұрын
@@emmaus_way How did things go?
@Katrica670
@Katrica670 Жыл бұрын
But in a logical sense DA's are actually the least to meet people's need cause according to what I learned, they are the most opposite of selfless, and disconnected from feelings. So ..I am not seeing DA's meet other's needs very well, or at all most times! 👀🧐🤔
@nannyboo9832
@nannyboo9832 Жыл бұрын
idk how anyone managed to get a DA in a relationship 😭😅 it’s so hard to even get that far with them lol
@gregvanpaassen
@gregvanpaassen 7 ай бұрын
Yes! I'm a DA, and this is how you communicate deeply with DAs: don't. It scares the DA and frustrates you.
@777-h6n
@777-h6n Ай бұрын
He wants to marry me😂
@777-h6n
@777-h6n Ай бұрын
@@gregvanpaassenwow😂
@reneehaynes8289
@reneehaynes8289 Ай бұрын
​@@777-h6nIf you do, don't come back here complaining. You definitely know what you signed up for.
@reneehaynes8289
@reneehaynes8289 Ай бұрын
​@@777-h6nHave fun with that
@Mississippian
@Mississippian Жыл бұрын
This is so spot on. Like 1000%! DAs are almost thirsty for connection and they want nothing more than to love and be loved. They thrive with specifics and details. I remember telling my DA that I want more kisses. Or how long and how often to hug. Or what kind of life I wanted to share with him, when I was ready to commit and what that looked like. As odd as it sounds, I felt like a pet who was showing a new owner how to keep me happy.
@loria287
@loria287 Жыл бұрын
May you elaborate? Like how do you communicate with your DA? And did your DA receive it well or shit down? How long did it take for your DA it start making those changes.
@BlackIvy
@BlackIvy Жыл бұрын
Id love to know more detail too....i am trying like crazy to communicate with my DA but the minute i bring up my needs we somehow end up with him telling me im being competitve or he gets defensive as if im blaming him and then focusing on his boundaries and needs.
@Mississippian
@Mississippian Жыл бұрын
Not sure how to elaborate more than that I am specific, a little blunt even and tell him what I want as things come up. I am just making it simple and clear for him to understand me. I don't know if I've ever asked him to change anything. No he doesn't shut down, If something doesn't agree with him, he can easily say No. Once, I needed to travel 4 hours out of state and he didn't want to come along. I told him, I wanted to be together in the car. So instead he stayed on the phone with me the entire drive to feel like we're together. Stuff like that.
@Mississippian
@Mississippian Жыл бұрын
@BlackIvy No... you're trying like crazy to CONVINCE your DA to violate his boundaries for your needs.
@BlackIvy
@BlackIvy Жыл бұрын
No, im not trying to convince him to break his boundaries at all. After I've acknowledged whatever his raised or taken accountability. My need could be something like, " I really want to hear what you have to say but it triggers me when you highlight my flaws in a critical way, please could you be a little kinder in your delivery (as an FA just expressing my need especially in the moment is hard for me) His response would be something like "I cant be responsible for what triggers you if thats not what I intended" or 'right now we're talking about my need, its unfair for you to start talking about your need" 🤷🏾‍♀️
@archivist_of_dragonstone
@archivist_of_dragonstone Жыл бұрын
My DA husband of 9 years moved to another state for a job in January. Things weren’t great while we lived together but now the dynamic is even worse. When he comes home it feels more like I’m his mom that he has to pal around with for a few days until I send him off with a Tupperware of leftovers and a kiss on the forehead. It’s been a year since we’ve been intimate. It’s a DA’s dream scenario and an AP’s worst nightmare 🙄
@Bornie1977
@Bornie1977 Жыл бұрын
it must feel horrible, i hope you can overcome this difficult situation. Your last sentence, on the other hand, is brilliant. i don't know what to do: either laughing or crying?
@liliaaaaaaaa
@liliaaaaaaaa Жыл бұрын
Yeah this is really true with my DA, I find if we've had some kind of emotional episode for whatever reason, if I can then explain to him calmly and logically in a reasonable way and spell out what I need as a solution to the problem, then eventually once he's processed everything he will take everything on board and respond positively. I'm still working on calming myself and not being demanding, but I'm getting there. It's a learning curve.. It's useful to be able to recognise the importance of holding myself back and grounding myself and my Ap side too..
@agent_exodus
@agent_exodus Жыл бұрын
Logic divorced from the heart is fundamentally irrational, imo. Because it’s missing the bigger picture. Mechanistic solutions which void emotional intelligence… is destructive. It wouldn’t be as much of a problem if DAs didn’t see themselves as somehow superior… That’s really egregious and dissociative, imo. Sorry, not trying to be triggering to anyone. But these kinds of people have done just as much damage personally as narcissists in my life. They just effected more gentle areas more extremely. I know it’s possible for DAs to do the work but… personally I don’t have it in me anymore to give anyone like that another shot. If a DA cannot become more… rehabilitated emotionally/interpersonally then… I don’t have it in me. But that’s just me.
@kathyh.648
@kathyh.648 Жыл бұрын
I‘m so thankful that you do this video. I’m not very appreciative of the judging comments against DAs, because everyone has the right to give love to those they want. And everyone has to decide for themselves hoe much they want to give and how much they are willing to accept. Of course it isn’t easiest to love a DA, if we have trouble to understand them. But why should a DA not deserve love? Thats what they have been starved of as Children already. How cruel is it to judge a child for trying to cope with neglect somehow? Its sad enough they had to find such coping strategies. We are not to judge about it, but to find our own boundaries and communicate them. And if anyone loves a DA and wants to understand them better, that does not mean we normalize their hurtful behavior. We all can be hurtful to other people. We can hurt a DA by our as normal perceived behavior of needing instant communication and understanding… so who are we to judge? So thank you so much for helping us understand the reaction and needs of the DAs better. Hopefully we can all move toward more secure relationships and experience a fulfilling relationship to those we love. DA or not DA.
@r_and_a
@r_and_a 10 ай бұрын
*1,000,000%!!!!!* THANK YOU for your comment! as an FA in love with a DA am absolutely gutted when see the comments bashing rather than trying to understand DAs (get angry when see some are so disrespectful & frankly cruel imo by responding negatively directly *to* DAs who are brave & generous enough to share their perspectives &/or experiences) *really* wish the comment sections were moderated or at least people had to accept a pop-up of rules like other channels create & advised people to remember this is the *"personal" development school" so if comments should be focussing on their own development or responding in a way that encourages someone else's development (ie insulting or really even venting in a generalized way about another attachment style)
@djenning90
@djenning90 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding! Your content keeps getting better and better, more nuanced. I like it when you tell stories about your clients to illustrate points and add color. I’m getting more and more value from you. Oh, and I’m a lifetime member now. Thanks!
@lightsout280
@lightsout280 Жыл бұрын
Avoid an Avoidant partner thats the only thing you need to do
@meta8016
@meta8016 Жыл бұрын
Why do they just stare at you sometimes? Like you have no clue what they are thinking. It reminds me of a narcissist so I’m confused with my partner sometimes like are you DA or narcisstic??
@HustleHabit
@HustleHabit Жыл бұрын
Might be both.
@Betinhaac
@Betinhaac 9 ай бұрын
I think I have a secure attachment but my ex DA has caused me anxiety and now I’m unsure which I am 😅 up until I met him I thought I was alright lol
@tiffanygatten5008
@tiffanygatten5008 Жыл бұрын
My DA has pulled away not only physically but emotionally also. He no longer tells me he loves me or touches me like he once did. He rarely spends extra time with me. He makes plans to fill his weekends with his friends and I’m left to find a way to cope and fill my time. I’m definitely an anxious person and codependent. I’ve been working on myself to feel more secure but it’s taking a toll on me emotionally. I have learned a lot from your videos and listen to them throughout my day.
@howtosober
@howtosober Жыл бұрын
If I can make an unsolicited recommendation, it's time to let that relationship go. It does not get any better. Unless a DA is actively and committedly working on healing their attachment style, there is nothing but heartache for you down that alley, and by the time they discard you like yesterday's trash you'll have nothing but resentment left about all the energy you wasted on them. Do yourself a favor and stand up for what you truly deserve. When we get secure ourselves, we can attract other secure people and never put ourselves through these kinds of relationships again.
@carolinelaronda4523
@carolinelaronda4523 Жыл бұрын
Throw the whole dude in the trash before he does that to you . DAs are the worst.
@arxsyn
@arxsyn Жыл бұрын
Maybe write your feelings to him in an old fashion letter. However Men do go through a stage where they pull back and get cold. It's not nice when it happens and it sucks. Me personally as an AP l feel l have to fake being secure when they do come back sigh
@arxsyn
@arxsyn Жыл бұрын
I find that more direct, assertive but cordial and cool communication from me gets better results when they get like that. It's worked for two DA's I've dated Really! Remind them not to take you for granted. In your situation maybe you say hey, l notice you're almost completely different from before. I respect that you need time for yourself as everyone does but I've noticed a pattern that is not working for me. I love and appreciate the time you have spent with me, the beautiful relationship we have built together. However l feel it is in jeopardy, what we have will erode over time and that's a shame because l do not want that to happen. I want to stay connected with you...l hope we can work this out. I've made attempts to reach out but you have never reciprocated. That's fine, I'll be doing what you have been doing, concentrating on my own affairs.
@arxsyn
@arxsyn Жыл бұрын
Don't make ultimatums but if you give them this danger signal that something will tank... Danger of losing you for good! This will get their attention mark my words! Don't get emotional, ever. Be logical about it. This might get them to chase you They get too comfortable. They think they you have you in the corner waiting them to take you back... Show em who's boss!
@333Alastair
@333Alastair Жыл бұрын
I was in a year and a half relationship with the DA poster girl. I lived on these videos end give 100% to try to understand her and the way she processes her feelings. In the end we broke up and I was heartbroken and immensely frustrated, while she felt nothing. Now I find myself dating another DA and I don’t think I have the strength left to be in a relationship with one and go through that soul crushing misery again.
@HustleHabit
@HustleHabit Жыл бұрын
History will repeat itself, if you don't learn the lesson.
@matthewadams9095
@matthewadams9095 Жыл бұрын
Maybe do a little inward growth, work on yourself! Understanding is awesome, but sounds like you continued the people pleasing & self sacrifice us APs are so prone to...
@BetterLoveMovement
@BetterLoveMovement Жыл бұрын
RUNNNNN‼️🤦🏽‍♀️
@dangfd551
@dangfd551 Жыл бұрын
I have the mental image of the poor AP flys stuck in spider DAs web. 🕷️🕸️🪰
@totallychillgirl8072
@totallychillgirl8072 Жыл бұрын
Fix YOU first!! 👍🏻
@magicisreal111
@magicisreal111 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. I’m in a long distance relationship with a DA and it helps to have some guidance in this area. We only see each other once every few months and he often doesn’t reach out for over a week, and while I’m very busy and distracted, once I get to the 8th or 9th day of silence I start feeling anxious. I resist the urge to reach out first because I don’t want to interrupt the process of him using space to regroup and feel ready to come back with affection and openness (which he always does). I have also confirmed that we are indeed monogamous; this is just how he processes after intense intimacy.
@steffanbrown4780
@steffanbrown4780 Жыл бұрын
Bruh I’ve done everything give space try to explain myself as surface level and light hearted as I could expressed to her that I’m in her corner and I don’t push about anything but it seem to be pushing us further and further apart I’m broken right now I don’t want to I’m going to harm myself but I’m just shattered!
@rakhil1830
@rakhil1830 9 ай бұрын
Not until my DA bf walked out on our relationship out of the blue did I do research on what the hell happen did I find out about avoidant personality traits. I had no idea about FA or DA or anything of the sort. It’s been 6 months since the breakup but I miss my DA like crazy still. I don’t get that.
@Kemi116
@Kemi116 11 ай бұрын
I’m loving this! This is thoroughly helpful in regards to my FA partner, who’s leaning DA. I’m secure due to how I behave, but I’ve realised I’m secure leaning AP due to how internally I think a lot about my relationship with my FA. When he becomes avoidant, it triggers my anxiety but overtime it’s began to lessen. The good thing is, I know he thinks I’m secure and that’s likely as I’m quiet good at self-soothing , how to self-regulate and control my emotions due to a lot of inner work and healing upon myself 😌
@rkowel
@rkowel Жыл бұрын
I do agree with what Thais said. I remember that ‘I am afraid doing it wrong’ thing so I don’t do it at all. When in conflict, I don’t know how to approach my partner, I will be confused and helpless, so I let them be and do nothing at all. I have a friend who is in marriage with a DA, and she said to me that she has to tell her husband how to approach her when she is mad. She said, “I want you to treat me like this this this when I get mad.” And I find it so interesting, because as a DA myself, those was my Aha moment, and from that moment I use the question, “if you are mad, how do you like to be treated?” to my date. Because as a DA, my relationship always end at power struggle stage just because I don’t know how to handle the situation. I am clueless and feeling helpless even though the relationship means a lot to me.
@Alixir1228
@Alixir1228 11 ай бұрын
My ex is the same way. He just doesn't say anything, because he's afraid of saying the wrong thing. And that's his excuse for never expressing himself, either good or bad.
@r_and_a
@r_and_a 10 ай бұрын
thank you both for sharing your experiences & insights 💜 i'm an FA who has loved a DA for several years now & though we've both grown a lot more secure in our relationship (thanks partly to pds!) i am often a bit amazed when comments increase my understanding of our dynamics throughout the entirety of our relationship 🤯 my DA flat out told me early on they usually just remove themself from a situation if they're the problem & we repeatedly encountered difficulties with our different approaches where i'd be given "space" if struggling with things despite me letting them know that just increased my insecurity *(so* wish i'd found pds sooner, lol, but grateful i at least did when i did!) i've noticed that the more comfortable & affirming i've gotten about them having space when *they* are struggling as well as overtly (but not over-the-toply 😉) appreciating when they *do* reach out, the better they seem to respond - they've even literally asked me for guidance on what to do before which reflecting on it, don't think i understood the significance of at the time 🥴
@ShimmerSoulSong
@ShimmerSoulSong Жыл бұрын
I know my previous DA dear one is capable of deep connection and presence and I'm so grateful for the sweetness whe shared in our bond. We had playful silliness as well. There was actually much ease and fun and beauty. This logical person is still a deep tender heart and feeler. Even if she prefers to stay composed. You're right, the theatrical type passionate emotional expression was tough for DA. I will always care about this person and wish her well.
@JaneT881
@JaneT881 7 ай бұрын
How can you tell the difference between someone that is dismissive avoidant and or a covert narcissist? The patterns seem to be very similar.
@kmduarte2005
@kmduarte2005 4 ай бұрын
12 collective years of my life wasted on a DA. Glad I finally got educated on this topic so I can move on and not feel like I’m taking crazy pills.
@stevethompson4783
@stevethompson4783 Жыл бұрын
My experience is when you find an avoidant. Just let them be, they don't want to be helped or can't be. Walk away not your job to fix it.
@Badmomsclub
@Badmomsclub Жыл бұрын
This is exactly on point! If you poke too much too soon, they’ll either shut down or run! My bf is a DA, I wasn’t sure of his attachment style in the beginning so I was eager to learn all about him. He told me I was “coming AT him”. Which threw me way off!! 😮. I explained that wasn’t my intention at all. I just wanted to get to know him. We left it at that and I revisited that conversation later after I’ve researched his style and now I feel you’re giving me the tools to make a real connection with this truly amazing man. I am doing my own work on myself as I know why I do the things I do in the relationship.❤
@ShimmerSoulSong
@ShimmerSoulSong Жыл бұрын
I love the balance of connection and space. Even when we spent all day together, we would also take space. So she and I loved to do so much together once a week and when we were home, we would be doing different things for an hour or so. And other little breaks. It's amazing to me though how we were able to be together for 10 hours doing a variety of things, we mutually wanted it. She liked connecting for that too. The issue was in between. When I'd want to communicate during the week. I realize now she probably felt alot of pressure and needed more of a breather. I can also tell she wanted to meet needs! I remember so much goodness and if I had found these videos like 4-5 years ago it would have been so illuminating and helpful. She DID put her phone away after the first few months of my requests. I wish I realized I knew she wasn't sure how to respond. When she'd say "I don't know what to say, I have nothing to say". I would be baffled. Like I need express empathy but she hadn't had modeling nor learned and that is one area I did horrible at teaching and modeling. I couldn't model because she hadn't been emotionally forthcoming often. If she had admitted that uncertainty I would have felt compassion and been specific AND Asked Her what she was needing. I tried. I tried to share this info just before the totally iced me out after I got upset for her showing up for others and not me. I like that she made new friends. I always felt that was important and encouraged it. I just didn't want to be ditched when new friends came along. But she would often say she doesn't need more than 3 or 4 good friends. And she was making them. Anyway I value my solitude and alone time too. So being spacious for anothers autonomy shouldn't be too tough.
@aqua6613
@aqua6613 Жыл бұрын
After having a break from my avoidant it gave me some time to reflect and look for a new perspective that might work. He's had a lot of childhood trauma, parents on drugs and abusive, manipulative ex spouse and 3 kids. Ptsd from Iraq. He's pretty much as broken as it comes and he tried to break me 😆. I think the latent anger towards women stems from the lack of emotional connection with his mother who is a religious narcissist. The best kind. He told me early on he was an introvert etc. Needed his space. He would be able to compromise and did meet my needs. I think we needed the longer break to figure out if we could work on changing this toxicity stuff. The anxiety levels on his part are palpable and anxiety leads to the need to control. I do understand that dynamic. Why I love him and why I'm willing to engage truly only God knows. We reconnected a few months ago and it's clear to me that he comes to me for emotional support. I don't think he's a narcissist but I believe he's a severely damaged empath who has taken on narcissistic traits from his environment. That could be just me projecting my own journey...like and like recognizes one another. I am trying to establish a routine that seems to calm down the anxiety and then I spice things up a bit with spontaneity. I call once a day. I share about my day because I'm an extrovert but I keep most things as texts because he likes to read. Intimacy has changed from cold and mechanical when we first met to sweet and cuddly after the break. He's been consistent and I can accommodate. He has enough to still deal with with his family and health issues. I'm independent and I know how to keep myself happy. We've both moved from place to place as children and never really truly experienced stability. I've been able to establish that in my own life now at 44...he's 37 but traumatically emotionally stunted to the level of a 13 year old when his mothers pedophile husband physically abused him and she decided to send him to his cocaine addicted father while staying married to a man who then went on to sexually molest his own daughter. This is stuff going on in Alabama. I have a whole other background growing up and being educated in Germany where I watched my mother practically on her deathbed from trauma anxiety and panic attacks manifesting itself in anorexia. It caused me to become an emotional binge eater. I myself married a pedophile but divorced when I saw red flags and left...it only later turned out that my suspicions were confirmed through a warrant out for his arrest molesting his friends 7 year old daughter. I didn't have anything to go by but a hunch and so I had to deal with a whole bunch of backlash from my exes hyper religious narcissistic manipulative mother. I feel like I'm just reliving the same cycle in life just with different characters entering at different stages. The subconscious can be merky waters to swim in, but I'm navigating them all, which is why I have adapted my mermaid persona to remind me that I can swim deep in emotion and not drown or I can enjoy surface level commitments aswell overcoming all obstacles with compassion grace and understanding. The benefits of having and giving space is that one can reflect and spend time as to not become too enmeshed in another one's trauma etc. I stick by the empaths motto now...observe don't absorb which can be problematic at times. Maybe I am myself clinging to some kind of fantasy that is unrealistic. But as the children's song go... Row row row your boat...gently down the stream...merrily merrily merrily...life is but a dream. After all these nightmares I've lived...I've managed to regain my light and my love and my joy. They ain't killed me yet and they ain't gonna.
@evyjay
@evyjay Жыл бұрын
​@aqua6613 Very interesting, how is it going with him now another 4 months later??
@dianneciresi7208
@dianneciresi7208 Жыл бұрын
Not if they blocked & deleted u out of their life..like what happened to me..whatever..
@kingaberlakovich5585
@kingaberlakovich5585 Жыл бұрын
DAs love long distance relationship
@692mexico
@692mexico Жыл бұрын
Me and my da was close and together for a year and then she moved to her hometown back home for a new job. Communication fell off and she would cancel plans. I cut it off but said the door is always open, when you do heal up and learn how to love properly cause I am not going to keep doing this without no reciprocation back
@ThePersonalDevelopmentSchool
@ThePersonalDevelopmentSchool 11 ай бұрын
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@celestecelestial90
@celestecelestial90 Жыл бұрын
Dismissive Avoidant here! This is helpful for me too especially since I’m dating someone who seems to be of a different attachment style.
@ThePersonalDevelopmentSchool
@ThePersonalDevelopmentSchool Жыл бұрын
Glad this was helpful! :)
@rainerneumeister5239
@rainerneumeister5239 Жыл бұрын
I dated a da for 11 months. A constant battle for time together, for the first 6 months she would only meet 1 night a week until I threatened to leave the relationship and then she agreed to meet 2 nights a week . She seemed happier when we only met 1 night a week .
@howtosober
@howtosober Жыл бұрын
I'm so thankful I bumped into attachment theory and learned to recognize the different insecure attachment styles as I recognize and heal my own. While excellent resources on attachment, like Personal Development School, offer tons of great advice on how to "make it work" with these types, I use the information to stay far away from them altogether. Thankfully, ANY attachment style can be healed- but I don't need to be part of the DA's process. I thought I was just attracting narcissists. Turns out, I was also attracting DAs, which feels identical to being with a narcissist (even though it's a totally different pathology). *When we get secure ourselves, we can attract other secure people and never put ourselves through these kinds of relationships anymore. It's nothing but a setup for resentment. Why would I put myself in a one-sided relationship ever again?* PS. Hot tip: If you don't sleep with anyone unless you're a committed relationship, the people that aren't serious about you will weed themselves out. ;)
@TheCoffeeCat
@TheCoffeeCat Жыл бұрын
I couldn't have said it better myself. I agree with you 100%.
@sheliasmith2884
@sheliasmith2884 Жыл бұрын
Amen I'm done with it.
@BetterLoveMovement
@BetterLoveMovement Жыл бұрын
That “hot tip” is one thousand percent correct! Folks, start REQUIRING exclusivity and commitment BEFORE sex!! This will definitely send 90% of people packing. That’s fine, because that’s all they wanted anyway! You dodged a bullet. Take your TIME! Go slowly and be up front about this when they attempt to get sexual without commitment!😉💯
@somethinggood9267
@somethinggood9267 11 ай бұрын
Your comment really resonated with me. I thought that I could be this person that helps the da to heal, but it just doesn't feel good to be around them when they're so cut off and disconnected. It feels kind of boring and unfulfilling
@somethinggood9267
@somethinggood9267 11 ай бұрын
I also agree that being with the da feels a lot like being with a narcissist, even if they're not trying to hurt you. The emotional withdrawing when you're hurting and viewing your emotions as drama is extremely gaslighting and triggering.
@thiacari
@thiacari Жыл бұрын
I'm a stable, ex DA, together with an FA. He's started reaching out and sending much more vulnerable things. He still get locked sometimes, but I tell him it's ok and give him time. If there is too little communication despite my regular attempts, I do share my feelings very calmly, leave some time, and the response is good. Who knows, this might be hard for him?
@marciafab7
@marciafab7 Жыл бұрын
Hi Thais! Thank you for all your hard work 💜
@ThePersonalDevelopmentSchool
@ThePersonalDevelopmentSchool Жыл бұрын
You;re welcome Marcia :)
@roweme
@roweme Жыл бұрын
If I get an "I don't know" about feelings and I try the 'park it' technique, my DA sees that as an opportunity to brush it under the rug. He will never reflect or come back to it and if I ask him a while later if he's had any thoughts on our conversation he'll say "What conversation? 🤔" I can't win 😞
@nataliaturner4845
@nataliaturner4845 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Oblivious 🙄
@rachhhh9722
@rachhhh9722 Жыл бұрын
Same everytime I try to solve anything it gets pushed under the rug or denied. The one time I pushed it and wouldn't stop talking about it he got physical with me . I give up now , I don't even try to discuss things
@brandih4882
@brandih4882 Жыл бұрын
​@@rachhhh9722 I'm obviously not a doctor but that sounds like he's got control of you and has you trained behave exactly how he likes you. Which is in a way that's not authentic to yourself. So basically he doesn't like you. Sounds like a narcissist and he only likes what you do for him.
@alberts4541
@alberts4541 Жыл бұрын
Is it possible that you are overexpressing your emotions? Maybe you did that in the past and now that DA just doesn't listen because it's always the same anyways.
@gunveendureja7753
@gunveendureja7753 3 ай бұрын
That’s very true. My bf does the same thing. But I remind him about it and he’s quick to change the topic.
@codygriffiths2123
@codygriffiths2123 Жыл бұрын
Lady, you kick ass! Been watching your videos for a month or so, definitely keep up the good work, thank you so much! Learning so much!
@Nivaluna
@Nivaluna Жыл бұрын
I know where you're coming from with "be more specific towards the DA with timeframes etc", but actually I don't know myself how much extra time i'd even want and need with the DA or any other specifics - so to me it seems being with a DA is only possible if the other person is super put-together, calm, confident and chill, always guiding the relationship and never being allowed to falter. Sadly the reality is that I'm socially anxious, hypersensitive, insecure and not really assertive when it comes to planning or explaining myself. All I can offer is empathy, intuiton and the effort of becoming a better person than I was the day before.
@r_and_a
@r_and_a 10 ай бұрын
all you can offer are *amazing* gifts! as an FA w/CPTSD, social anxiety, panic disorder, depression & a host of other things that mean i share many of the traits you described yourself with personally have found *both* myself & DA have grown much more secure through our relationship (partly as we both share your trait of trying to become better 😉) so please reconsider selling yourself or DAs short 💜 best wishes on your healing journey!
@ColleenBarlow
@ColleenBarlow Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Thais! One of your most helpful talks so far. I appreciate all the effort you put into helping the world be a better place ❤
@beyou2133
@beyou2133 Жыл бұрын
Can I be honest? I have DA traits and FA traits and I really want to change but I am so stuck on how. I am hesitant to do the PDS courses in case they dont work because I've done so much therapy and I still feel the same (I do CBT & have done it for nearly 2 years and I did counselling for around 6 years prior). I am very comfortable having deep conversations and connecting with people (dont like small talk) and am very happy to be open and honest in most circumstances. I also have meaningful and beautiful relationships with friends and family and pour so much love into them so I am not emotionally unavailable. I've also learnt how to create boundaries over the past couple of years. It sounds like I am doing alright. Yes.. potentially but when it comes to romance it's never been straightforward or healthy. Any advice from anyone in the comment section?
@dvdh4856
@dvdh4856 Жыл бұрын
Hi! Just wanted to commend you for all the work you’re putting in :) that’s awesome. From my personal experience, CBT hasn’t helped me much because it’s very cognitive focused, and that’s exactly what I have decreased access to when triggered (CPTSD and attachment). I’m running on pure subconscious survival programming in those moments. I think the solution to this is a combination of working with the subconscious mind, somatic work, and nervous system regulation. I haven’t yet signed up to PDS, but from what I’ve seen in Thais’ videos, PDS really focuses on that subconscious part, with courses on nervous system regulation and somatic work as well. If what I’m saying sounds relatable at all, and you’re not (yet) interested in signing up and trying the courses, I highly recommend looking into poly vagal theory for nervous system regulation, yoga (sounds stupidly simple and ineffective but supposedly this really helps with both nervous system regulation as well as somatic healing. (The body keeps the score by Bessel van der Kolk mentions this)) and maybe somatic experiencing. I’m still trying to figure out what would be effective for the subconscious healing . So far I’ve gotten some results by reprogramming my subconscious it’s ‘safe’ through positive experiences. It’s slow, but the more positive experiences I have, the more my subconscious mind can let go of its’ old beliefs and start trusting it’s safe. I hope some of this was helpful to you, and if not, I hope others can chime in with suggestions :). Either way, I wish you luck, peace, strength, healing, and love on your journey!
@wf4983
@wf4983 Жыл бұрын
I think, what makes the difference with PDS is that you get a view into all the points/ angles necessary to approach. It's like a kaleidoskop. It all fits into each other. I do it over 2 years now ... very avoident attachment style ... had and still have to learn to not distance myself from what I feel ... and I get realizations/ light bulbs nearly everyday.
@beyou2133
@beyou2133 Жыл бұрын
@@dvdh4856 Wow, thank you so much for spending the time to write back to me, that's very touching and very kind of you. I will take on board what you've said as I've reached rock bottom with it. I started doing Yoga at the start of this year so that's validating to know it will help me. I have felt for a little while that my CBT therapy isn't helping me anymore so maybe that's a telling sign to move on! Thank you for sharing your experience and well done for being brave and challenging yourself too. We will get there :)
@beyou2133
@beyou2133 Жыл бұрын
​@@wf4983 You're so right. I am ready to physically challenge myself at this point, I am so equipped with so much knowledge about attachment styles and self-awareness that I am ready to physically do something about it, hence the hesitancy to watch a course, etc. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and for the reply. :)
@lifecoachingtoronto
@lifecoachingtoronto Жыл бұрын
I've also had people say to me "I want to do xyz, but I don't know how", so I totally resonate with that. It's good to be honest and find out how because we all deserve a great relationship :)
@romanitza24
@romanitza24 Жыл бұрын
Very useful information, clear and applicable. If I had known all these, maybe my relationship with someone that I identify as having a DA attachment style, would have gone better. Of course, I also would have needed to be more secure in order to have this maturity of letting him know my needs in this super non-agressive and so articulate and assertive, mature way. I love how you explain. I think it takes maturity and responsability for one's feelings and needs, as well as for expressing them. But the tips and tricks and especially the practical, with clear, even measurable, data and the logical way of expressing and explaining those needs and actions to a DA, it is precious piece of information, and it was something I did not know. Because it is difficult sometimes to understand, not judge and, very important, especially when your own hurt comes in, not take it personally, when someone is so different from you. For me, the fact that somebody cannot even know what they feel and how they feel, is novelty. Like, in the clear way you explained it. And I have studied Psychology. They did not even teach us a lot about this theory at University. But I say this ever since I discovered your videos - this theory should be taught in schools, from a young age. It is so important to human interaction and all kinds of human rapport and proves itself a lot more helpful in life than a lot of the subjects we learn about in school. Thank you so much for your contribution to this subject, in general and in educating us about it. Blessings to you and your family!
@Chevelle602
@Chevelle602 3 ай бұрын
Should DA's date each other?
@LucidLuuu
@LucidLuuu Жыл бұрын
Do DA males expect the female to be sweet before they make her feel safe?
@pure-pisces9980
@pure-pisces9980 Жыл бұрын
How do u know that they are taking u for granted or not? Especially when it comes to them wanting "Their Space" How much is too much or not????? I feel that i have to accept him 110% but i am not!!
@ShimmerSoulSong
@ShimmerSoulSong 9 ай бұрын
How do I logically and rationally FEEL? It seems cold and disconnected from heart and body. When the DA I loved was initially insulting my intelligence and belittling, excluding me around others yet would joke and hug, I felt if I worked the need to prove them wrong that I have valuable things to contribute.( a queer woman of color preferring to connect with old white guys than another queer woman) I was playful to fawn and appease. Also asking for my needs up front but they minimized my attachment needs as they do theirs. Regardless I tried from many angles for them to be emotionally present and responsive. If I tried to communicate as they Ice Out they called my attempts as abuse of their boundaries. Can u see that? Where is The Way?
@delilahsolorzano1260
@delilahsolorzano1260 17 күн бұрын
I see a lot of comments on here and i just wanted to say all of this in hopes it clears some shit up. Whether a person is an Dismissive or Fearful Avoidant, space in any relationship is important. But it's more so if you have a Dismissive or Fearful Avoidant Attachment Style because individuals like this really thrive when they're in their own space. But going through 4 years of therapy and making myself aware of this attachment style, I've learned that the way a person does this matters because what ends up happening is this> the people you love and care about end up with the wrong impression that they don't matter to an Avoidant individual and like the avoidant does not care about them or prioritize them in their life when in realty that's simply not true for the Avoidant individual. It's never an Avoidant's intentions to make people they love and care about feel like this. But regardless of what someone's intentions are doesn't matter because the fact is, intentions or not, this is how it comes off to people when you don't speak up and communicate when taking some time and space for yourself. There's a healthy way to take some time and space for yourself without hurting people you care about. And then there's the unhealthy way, which is pretty much a cycle life style that's not good for the avoidant or anyone who gets caught up in that cycle. I wanna say this again. Space in ANY relationship is HEALTHY. It's healthy to have a life outside of your relationship, meaning, having hobbies of your own, going out with your friends and family and being social, doing your own thing. But communication and transparency about that is like inhaling and exhaling for any relationship to be healthy and functional. Take this concept that I'm generalizing and apply it with Avoidant Individuals times 10x. Avoidant individuals are very INDEPENDANT individuals. There are different ways a person can be independent. There's obviously financial independence which is the most common one people think of automatically. But then there's the emotional and mental independence of a person. An Avoidant Individual will pull away or shut down on you if they feel like their independence is being CONTROLLED. They're big on autonomy, especially when it comes to their indepence. Avoidants can handle conflict. They have the capability to handle conflict. But never address a conflict with an avoidant when you're upset because when you're upset, you're the most reactive. And when a person is reactive, they react off emotion. And THAT will make an avoidant pull away or shut down on you. That's not saying your feelings aren't validated. That's not saying your feelings are right or wrong. We're all human beings which means we all feel shit we wish we didn't feel. NO ONE is perfect. But you addressing conflict while you're upset doesn't solve anything. It only makes it worse. Go for a walk. Go to the gym. Have a nice work out. I like to go by the water when I'm upset or frustrated about something. Think about whatever the conflict is. Really think about it in a CALM manner. Then when you're done thinking about it in a calm manner, go back to your avoidant partner. Put your arms around them. Stay in their arms. Kiss them. Remind them that they are loved and cared for, no matter what. And CALMLY/MINDFULLY address whatever the conflict is. Tell them however it is you're feeling. And then work something out with them to fix it. Relationships are supposed to be a two way street, not a one way street. That means relationships are all about meeting each other halfway and my favorite, COMPROMISE. It's about give and take. Yes, I said it. You give. You take. Why? Because everyone have wants, needs and again, my favorite, BOUNDARIES. There are healthy ways to go about that in relationships. And there are unhealthy cycles. Also, avoidant individuals like to learn and grow. If you contribute to that for them and for yourself as well, that's a plus for avoidant individuals. One way you can contribute to that is challenging them. There's a difference between challenging someone and pressuring someone. For example: make an avoidant think about something or CONSIDER a view point they probably are not used to even thinking about. But if you do this with an avoidant, make sure they're in their own space so they don't feel any pressure or expectations from you. I wasn't lying when I say avoidants thrive the most when they're in their own space. Whatever it is you're giving them to think about or consider, tell them to write their response down, or give examples of healthy ways they can self sooth. Also remind them that if they don't wanna share their response with you, they don't have to. That's the whole point of being in their own space. Their actions a lot of times will speak for themselves as for far as their response go for avoidant individuals. Avoidants may not respond to you with words because they don't trust most people, and they don't make themselves vulnerable to most people due to that lack of trust. So if they're using their actions as a response to you challenging them in a healthy way don't take that shit for granted and make it known that they are appreciated for it. Also note: if an avoidant doesn't respond right away, that's ok. Change in unhealthy cycles don't happen over night. And that's what people tend to forget whenever this doesn't work right away with an avoidant individual. Don't be discouraged. And don't discourage them when they don't respond right away. People forget that trust and respect is EARNED, not freely given. And that takes time and with baby steps. This is especially true with an avoidant individual. Again, avoidant individuals thrive most when their in their own space. Leave! Them! Be! Time is sweet and precious. Give them that sweet precious time and be patient. If you don't have that patience then this kind of relationship is probably not the right fit for someone like you. Just a thought to consider with the most respect 💘. PS: if anyone is gonna ask me how I know half this shit it's because I used to be Fearful and Dismissive before years of therapy and self work/self soothing (wink, wink 😉).
@DazzledCat
@DazzledCat 11 ай бұрын
My dumbass keeps taking them back because I see their inner wounded child and they keep discarding me. If you are a sensitive soul a DA will suck all the pureness and innocence, love in your life. I see relationships as nothing but 2 people using eachother now.
@sonyacurti
@sonyacurti 9 ай бұрын
I just requested that my DA please not be preoccupied with his phone when he's spending time with me. It's happened the last 2x's and it's very dismissive to me for lack of a better word.
@mayur1397
@mayur1397 Жыл бұрын
Let me shorthand this for you: DON'T
@indyd9322
@indyd9322 2 ай бұрын
Do DAs like love? What does love mean for a DA?? I was married to a DA. He was engaged and thoughtful in the beginning of the relationship, but over time become more and more distant. Even when we were spending time together, it felt surface level much of the time. It really seemed like he didn't want the relationship to deepen emotionally. I lean AP, so for me, love is about a deep emotional connection. However, it seemed to be the opposite for my spouse. What is love for them??
@Bornie1977
@Bornie1977 Жыл бұрын
I have become an expert on detecting DAs behaviours on many different people (friends, coworkers, etc). Some of them are extremely funny guys and I do appreciate them a lot, but I know that, as a partner, we would be totally incompatible, since they are not able to show any personal emotion. Sometimes I realize they literally change the subject of conversation if they notice it's getting a bit intimate. And always keeping the same funny vibe, despite their emotional avoidance.
@Karll541
@Karll541 8 ай бұрын
That is interesting
@gebronthomasson6960
@gebronthomasson6960 10 ай бұрын
And where as the Anxious person’s anxiousness comes from distance/space being too far the DA anxiousness comes from it being too close
@kmduarte2005
@kmduarte2005 4 ай бұрын
12 collective years of my life wasted on a DA. Glad I finally got educated on this topic so I can move on and not feel like I’m taking crazy pills.
@MarkTheders
@MarkTheders 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for these videos. I’ve found them extremely informative, as a partner of a DA.
@MusParvulus
@MusParvulus 4 ай бұрын
I always assumed that explaining what you want in detail is controlling and offensive to the other person 🤷🏼‍♀️
@cnote3580
@cnote3580 4 ай бұрын
Unless a DA is willing to do the work n go thru therapy I'm not willing to go thru the games n gauntlet of trying.. you can't fix another person's internal trauma
@johnnycassell4338
@johnnycassell4338 Жыл бұрын
How to do a half gainer into the baby pool
@sasavrabl9
@sasavrabl9 13 күн бұрын
The problem is i just never get answers... they just sweep everything under the rug pretending it isnt there...
@sally5256
@sally5256 Жыл бұрын
Another tidbit of information I did not know - asking for or receiving things of a “practical” nature. I love that. Did not realize but makes absolute sense. Thank you 🙏 ❤
@jenniferdixon4420
@jenniferdixon4420 2 ай бұрын
Question for DAs. Do you ever get so nervous when you actually are talking to someone you are interested in that you forget certain conversations?
@octuple505
@octuple505 Ай бұрын
Whenever i feel like i need tobe yammered at i watch these videos. Really gets it out of my system. 😂🎉
@Jen-f1u
@Jen-f1u 11 ай бұрын
My husband and I have been together for 16 years I've been searching, thought he was on the spectrum but this is 1000% him the morning routine made me lauph as a mom nothing changed for him in regards to his routine mine however changed completely
@bcrwarlock1974
@bcrwarlock1974 9 ай бұрын
This is pure gold! I'm dating a DA (female) and I'm a FA (male), and this is the first time I am with a DA consciously. Having these guidelines to help understand her and what she needs has already made a big difference. Thank you! ❤
@ew1258
@ew1258 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful and informative video. I’m looking forward to part two and beyond.
@wf4983
@wf4983 Жыл бұрын
Yes. But how can you say to a DA: we need to have a closer emotional bond?
@star-cursed
@star-cursed Жыл бұрын
You would have to define what that means to you and give specific examples. DAs are uncertain of how to bond with others because it wasn't modelled for them, so you have to explain what it looks like. To some people they might interpret that as "help out with chores more so I have more time to spend quality time with you to build a bond", to other people it might mean "text me more throughout the day so I feel you're interested and care for me". Very different things and both can help with emotional bonding but you might be wanting one and not the other, so just give a specific example (and start with just 1, if you give a big list it gets overwhelming, remember this is for someone who is trying to learn)
@wf4983
@wf4983 Жыл бұрын
@@star-cursed Thank you! Very helpful
@yohami
@yohami 4 ай бұрын
Next tutorial - how to chew glass and milk a rotten lenmon
@yanaSolomon
@yanaSolomon 2 ай бұрын
does it apply the same when saturn is retrograde?
@lauriemeerlarock5649
@lauriemeerlarock5649 Жыл бұрын
I love how her voice is higher pitched so there’s very little vocal fry!! Love and need this content but usually need to use captions to avoid frustration. This one was easy to hear, thank you!!
@imsunnybaby
@imsunnybaby Жыл бұрын
the issue is its hard to know what a persons attachment style is until you have been together a long time...... how in the world to do this right and approach the good way before the dumpster fire that informs u about whats going on?
@weddingvideographerireland
@weddingvideographerireland Жыл бұрын
You “connect” with a DA by just leaving them alone 😂
@riyajacob2909
@riyajacob2909 Жыл бұрын
Haha 😂😂😂
@sheliasmith2884
@sheliasmith2884 Жыл бұрын
Amen
@Bornie1977
@Bornie1977 Жыл бұрын
no jokes! you are actually right. if you stop caring about the DA and you put some distance, chances are he/she may start making small steps to work on the relationship.
@UnacceptableTee
@UnacceptableTee Жыл бұрын
@@Bornie1977 yep until you relax and start to trust again. I ve witnessed this happening within the hour. The push pull. Yeah no thanks. Exhausting.
@Nn-sz9ht
@Nn-sz9ht Жыл бұрын
​@@Bornie1977yep, mine bought about 5 self help books in the last month... too little too late. Not wasting more of my life to be a grown man's mama..
@divyasampath4474
@divyasampath4474 Жыл бұрын
Is thais’s husband A DA ?
@forestcop2399
@forestcop2399 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing. The more I learn and the more feedback I get from others is helping me heal and understand why my AA ex broke my heart and that it wasn't personal.
@tucky3191
@tucky3191 Жыл бұрын
Quality time with self and other! Wow !
@stevensantora2976
@stevensantora2976 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much.
@lolaweed7467
@lolaweed7467 Жыл бұрын
Has anyone successfully cohabitated with an avoidant partner or have some insights? My avoidant wants to move in, dated for 4-6 months
@maybug88
@maybug88 8 ай бұрын
Having kids with a DA, when they don't have as much free or me time... Well, you might want to reconsider doing that 😶
@NoName-zb1gm
@NoName-zb1gm Жыл бұрын
Do they come up with excuses to avoid relationships? I have to work a lot. I'm busy. My relationship with God is more important? Or a reasonable excuse like being a single parent raising her 20 year old daughter. But there's always time for a relationship with the right person.
@charliegil2007
@charliegil2007 7 ай бұрын
I am a DA and this is helpful. One thing I would also add is that it is not pleasant to receive too many invitations from your partner to have a "romantic night" or similar suggestions. It is really exhausting just listening to this and I feel terrible knowing that there is no nice way to say no. The amount of pressure I feel with these things can kill my desire for closeness for a long time.
@ontheoutsidelookingin275
@ontheoutsidelookingin275 8 ай бұрын
"Deeply Connecting" with a D/A just means making them happy; but by their nature, they will never form a connection that serves you in any way. It's a waste of time for anyone other than the D/A.
@jilldiaz8595
@jilldiaz8595 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos but I would love them more if you talked a little bit slower. English is my partners second language and there’s no way they can understand these videos!
@agneag
@agneag 4 ай бұрын
To me its interesting also with what parts people like to identify with . As FA I used to be on a side of DA before
@marksoasis
@marksoasis Жыл бұрын
What is AP?
@marioct130
@marioct130 7 ай бұрын
I don't think you can have a deep, connecting relationship with n avoidant.
@MissBanksy
@MissBanksy 6 ай бұрын
You are a darling. Thankyou for helping me. ❤🙏❤️
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