How To Do Backflip Under An Obstacle | QUADCOPTER TRICK TUTORIAL

[@badmofo350]

I watched this again before flying this evening and it really helped make my backflips smoother and faster. I realized that I used to blip the throttle then cut the throttle completely before I even started rotating. Now instead of blipping the throttle I keep it where it was for normal forward flight but instead of dropping it before the flip I wait until I I've begun to pitch back then drop it. This gives me the bit of extra altitude that the blip did but looks a lot smoother and I'm able to do them pretty damn low while cruising along pretty fast.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Awesome! That was exactly the tip that I was hoping to convey.

[@RCSurf]

its the opposite of the look down flip forward over an obstacle. Thanks for another how too. the original how to fly series is really good, You basically taught me how to fly properly :) .

[@JoshuaBardwell]

That's really nice to hear. I always like hearing there are people out there who can fly because they watched my videos.

[@RCSurf]

Joshua Bardwell idk how people can learn without any instruction, i fllew fixed wing rc for many years and los quads but ur the only one who offerd instruction and i really appreciated learning co-ordinated turns right away then , head down 360*s , look down flip over , etc . etc .

[@LAHover]

Good tips! You always manage to add in little details that I would have never thought of... :)

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Thanks. Glad you liked it.

[@lubricantrc3244]

Thanks JOSH, going from acro planes and Heli's to Acro quads. you videos are informative and helpful

[@rotorrant5867]

Great Tutorial Josh, really enjoying watching you stuff!

[@coconutfpv]

2:45 transition from that over shot backflip into slower front flip(a kind of small backward power loop) is the great way to get away with overshooting :) especially if there's something underneath. On top of that if you add some yaw to it it's gonna end up looking quite awesome indeed :)

[@S700KYFPV]

Thank Josh. Another really helpful video.

[@beardmaximus]

I can literally watch these all day... I enjoy these mps than the sim...

[@ambermeows150]

Reminds me of the good 'old how to fly a multicopter fpv using free rider except IRL. Wouldn't have learned how to fly quads without your indepth tutorials josh!

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Check out the rest of this playlist. Lots of real-world acro tutorials. kzbin.info/aero/PLwoDb7WF6c8mT1TB0iKaiUWRUVoT0Kk8O

[@grahamwho2]

Nice little lesson.

[@ninjatu13]

a good pilot set my pids up tight and high early on. im so glad i can now adapt to prety much any build and my flips and spins loose very little altitude.

[@touchthesun2448]

once again....GREAT VIDEO

[@Retrospelaren]

Good work. Thank you.

[@markofpv9569]

Great stuff as usual ! That's a nice practice area you have there ... a big part of getting good I would say :)

[@badmofo350]

Totally going to blame you for encouraging this when I crash. Seriously though, thanks for the tips. I've got low rolls down but it will be nice to pull off low flips. Please do more of these trick tutorials. 👍🏼

[@JoshuaBardwell]

The trick tutorials are hard because I am running out of "tricks" that I can really do confidently. Okay, maybe that's not entirely true, but I really have to internalize the trick before I feel confident I can teach it. Just being able to do the trick isn't enough.

[@badmofo350]

+Joshua Bardwell understood. I just enjoy watching trick tutorials because they encourage me to try things and give me ideas. I find myself doing the same few tricks over and over which is good for learning but bad for getting epic footage.

[@rtcfpv1012]

added to favorites. thanks.

[@RK-dp9fe]

Correct me if i am wrong but i think that on stock betaflight rates i just increase the super rate to 7.5 and that gives me a pretty good roll speed.

[@blackmennewstyle]

Pretty cool :) I will try that tomorrow :p Have a great weekend McGuyver :)

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Happy flying!

[@unclejerry486]

awesome stuff, thanks!

[@johnjenkins129]

GREAT VIDEO MAN!!!!!!!!:)

[@neilrobertson1345]

very impressive

[@VapidLinus]

What rates and expo settings are you using in this video?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

+Vapid Linus I'm pretty sure I posted it in another comment. I don't have it handy right now.

[@EddieFPV]

I know super-rates are sort of a personal thing but I'm curious as to what your super rates are for this quick maneuver.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

+Eddie J around 1000 dps.

[@pabz06]

Any recommendation for improving copter's water resistance? As a beginner, I will be flying out in grassy areas early every morning starting soon and am worried about the moisture which the copter will be subject to upon what lets hope will be few collisions haha. I have the Emax red bottoms which are fairly shielded but how concerned should I be about dust and water getting in them? ESC are heat shrunk very nearly in my setup so those are good... So then my final concern is the moisture which will be around my solder mess from the ESC wires soldered to my quadrevo powerosd. Im gonna look for some kind of clear coat spray to add a very thing layer of plastic over my power distribution board/ flight controller. Any comments, ideas or experience regarding the topic will be appreciated :)

[@JoshuaBardwell]

+Pablo Contreras watch the Flite Test video on waterproofing.

[@charleswang3131]

Do you think some of those oscillations were from the unbalanced props?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

+Droid FPV yes, absolutely m

[@charleswang3131]

+Joshua Bardwell what props would you recommend then

[@wildstyles_fpv1749]

+Joshua Bardwell Why don't you just use HQ props.. always balanced well out of pack.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

+Limpet86 the answer used to be price, but now you can find HQ 5x4x3 for around 80 cents each which is not too bad. The other answer is durability. They break at the drop of a hat. And I don't think HQ makes a 5x4x3 durable... do they?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

+Droid FPV HQ 5x4x3 are amazing but fragile. And you have to shop around to find a good price. I am having okay results so far with KingKong 5x4x3.

[@P8FPV]

ace videos they help alot big thanks 👍

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Glad you like them.

[@akshayn3926]

it was helpful,thanks

[@macdemarco1476]

Got any suggestions what my rates should be at to backflip indoors with the emax tiny hawk Thanks

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I would suggest around 600 dps.

[@redmanfpv8385]

hello mate.very nice video!this is horizon mode or acro mode?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

+Akis redman acro.

[@nathankadria8953]

oh how far quads have come

[@Zedorek]

how to display your sticks and quad on the screen? How did you capture those?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

+Zedorek Blackbox. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5qWq2CqgrFqrJI

[@adamk.3946]

your camera seems to be shaky and I can hear oscillations when you are flying forward fast, surprising since your videos usually silky smooth. sorry to be a nit picker! nice video!

[@JoshuaBardwell]

It's the hugely imbalanced DYS props I was flying. This is the best I could get the tune after a LOT of work. Expect to see a Practical PID Tuning video soon.

[@phildawe7172]

that was 'flippen' helpful :-D

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I see what you did there.

[@BOPilot5517]

What state are you in Josh?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

+BOPilot5517 Tennessee

[@BOPilot5517]

+Joshua Bardwell cool! The countryside looks awesome

[@user-yk1cw8im4h]

How much flight time does your setup gives you ?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

2-3 minutes on a 1300 mAh 4S depending on how aggressively I'm flying. Possibly as much as 3:30 to 4:00 under some circumstances such as if I'm demonstrating a not-too-demanding move.

[@user-yk1cw8im4h]

Thanks, do you think it could by any chance get up to 6min if cruising ? I'm building a Tweaker FPV Addict 180 at the moment, and it can only take 4" prop on 2204 motors. What setup would you suggest if I want it to be nimble while not sacrificing too much flight time (Not sure if it's realistic - 6,7 minutes ideally)? My current idea is : Cobra 2204 2850KV Motors Dalrc xr20A ESCs Tattu 1300mAh 4s 74c Batteries KingKong 4045 Props Another unrelated question is why people doesn't choose the highest KV motors available? They can always throttle less in order to extend the flight time or to be slow, and it also have a broader range in speed to choose from. Basically what is there to lose by choosing high KV motors over a lower ones ? Thank you

[@JoshuaBardwell]

6-7 minutes on 4" props is probably not impossible, but you gotta ask what you're really going for here. It's like buying a Ferrari and then babying the throttle to improve your gas mileage. Just buy more batteries. Higher kv means lower torque. Might as well ask why all cars don't come with 5th gear only. You need torque to change prop speed rapidly. Also, higher kv motors get really inefficient with more aggressive props.

[@baverona]

if anyone would know it would be you... one more question in blheli suite it says multi... i imagine this means multishot is enabled? i also enabled it in betaflight

[@IzakGt]

I thought that it meant multi was to distinguish fixed-wing vs multi-rotor for the esc selection(that was my guess, but could be totally wrong!)?? Does Blhelisuite have a firmware for multishot just sitting right there? Haven't checked in a while? Hopefully Joshua chimes in to clear it up! When I tried multishot I had to do a google search and found the firmware on a forum. Then do a flash from local and select multishot for my specific escs. Then enable it on cf. Not sure if I went about it all wrong (likely chance) but either way I experienced some anomalies and after watching some stuff Skitzo had to say I just made sure I ran Borris B's betaflight with super expo and ran it the way Joshua suggested and went back to oneshot. So far I'm loving my quad!

[@mrmurder75]

If you are talking about flashing firmware in blheli suite, multi is fw for multirotors, main is for helicopters, and tail is for helicopters too. So as long as you select the right file for your esc and it says multi, you are good.

[@mrmurder75]

+IzakGt multishot works great. Were you using the latest? 14.6 I *think*, off the top of my head.

[@IzakGt]

+mrmurder75, I did and I had used IM tune thinking how cool! But realized I only fly by myself and it got annoying fast lol.

[@mrmurder75]

+IzakGt haha, yeah, I used that for about 6 lipo and it got really annoying! I use the crazy start one now. Slightly less annoying! Nice change from the usual esc start up tones though.

[@baverona]

i know this isnt the right video for this.. but i was wondering if u can help me... im using 30amp aikon esc's with blheli-s , Lumenier 2206 2000kv and SPF3 FC.. when i turn airmode on min motors spin as normal.. if i give a little throttle and go back to zero throttle my motors start winding up faster and faster.. if i switch to acro mode while they are winding up it seems to affect it but not fix it.... im at my witts end do u have any idea why this is happening? by the way multishot is enabled and im using betaflight 2.9.1

[@JoshuaBardwell]

+bobby averona this is iterm feedback. It's normal when you spin the motors on the ground. Just go fly.

[@BisMaxx]

Helpful!

[@pierretharreau4862]

I keep trying to figure out which mode you are in... auto level (horizon) or acro mode, which one is better?

[@pierretharreau4862]

I have started to learn to fly with horizon mode but I feel like I made a mistake as it might stop me from being able to do this type of flying

[@JoshuaBardwell]

+pierre tharreau you should learn acro of you fly FPV.

[@lipcsey]

it just caught me how you pull the right stick down and to the left consistently when performing the flip :D

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Yes. I have been working on that, but I still do it.

[@lipcsey]

+Joshua Bardwell thats alright I just thought I was missing something, thanks for the vid.

[@reisfpv638]

awesome!!:)

[@pabz06]

Why is the XSR not as popular as the X4R-SB?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Came out later. Direct-soldered antennas are harder to repair.

[@pabz06]

+Joshua Bardwell far enough thanks :) and awesome tip! Could you make a video on the LaForge diversity receiver system?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I don't currently have goggles that would take the LaForge... or a LaForge. I'd love to do the video though.

[@pabz06]

+Joshua Bardwell patreon here we go :)

[@JoshuaBardwell]

You think you're kidding, but maybe not. To be completely honest, my usual approach when equipment is holding me back from doing a video is to put out feelers to see if there is a vendor who wants to work with me on the video. You never know... it might happen.

[@rushmore1305]

Can you share you RC_Rate, Rate, Expo?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Super Expo rates enabled. set rc_rate = 155 set rc_rate_yaw = 100 set rc_expo = 0 set rc_yaw_expo = 0 set roll_rate = 70 set pitch_rate = 65 set yaw_rate = 70

[@rushmore1305]

WOW that is some crazy rates my friend

[@ICEMAN_GLX]

Im still scared lol

[@kitesurfjerry]

I have to ask.... Is that a skirt? or you just got out of the shower and couldn't wait to fly?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I wear a skirt or sarong sometimes.

[@AdeebMissaghi]

You should train an AI to reply to these comments for you xD I bet a lot of people would like to use that kind of thing for similar reasons lmao

[@ninjatu13]

a good pilot set my pids up tight and high early on. im so glad i can now adapt to prety much any build and my flips and spins loose very little altitude.