How To Fix A Narrow Palate

[@tadficuscactus]

I wish my parents or doctor knew all this shit when I was a child. Now I'm an adult and am insecure about my looks.

[@parthmehra8630]

I know right parents are really irresponsible

[@tacot3409]

On god bro but now its up to us to teach our kids useful information we never were taught

[@idkybutwutever]

@@parthmehra8630 My thoughts exactly man!

[@AlexaOrchid]

Oh, dentists in my childhood told me that I have a "narrow jaw" but none of them told me where I'm supposed to have my tongue. I actually wondered that as a child.

[@d1ost]

☹️

[@AceDeclan]

This should be explained to all kids in school. Or when they see their dentist, orthodontist etc.

[@giddynun]

Daltira I agree but they would never because orthodontics society are keeping it a secret, people need to have bad faces and narrow palates for them to stay in business and make money. So they don’t want everyone being healthy with a wide palate.

[@h.r.puffinstuff7099]

@@giddynun. I was going to say the same thing! 😊

[@yoobchoob1680]

There’s no profit in health

[@etherealmoonlight67]

Agreed

[@rifa502]

Great info. I never heard of myofunctional therapy untill dr. Mike Mew mentioned it on his channel. I started mewing, keeping the tongue on the roof and changing my swallowpattern and see already great results. Whould love to see more of your videos about this subject.

[@sarahkh12]

Thanks for watching!! I'm glad you're looking into Mewing and all of these issues - I'll definitely make more videos on this topic and discuss orthotropics and Mewing more in the future :)

[@fahimfoysal9411]

sarah can you please make a video about proper swallowing

[@kingfillins4117]

Mewing is where you engage your tounge from the very back of your pallette and push up with the very back of your tounge while pushing it foward... in a sweep.. this will help widen the upper arch as you push up against the maxila. It is also advised to do strong chewing for lower jaw growth. Whilst keeping good head neck and back posture. The entire tounge should be kept on the roof of the mouth most of the time with lips closed and teeth lightly together... and generslly sit/stand up tall and shut your mouth teeth lighyly together with tounge on the roof of your mouth.

[@ElsjeD]

How long did it take for you to see some results and my i ask what your age is?

[@Ari-ih5un]

what results did you see?

[@void3793]

Wouldn't fixing the narrow palate remove the neccessity to extract teeth.

[@williamburnette588]

Yes exactly. Widening your palate improves breathing, facial structure, and removes the need to extract teeth

[@maggotmeatballz2692]

Check orthotropics channel, Mike Mew is a leading expert on this.

[@tadficuscactus]

Correctamundo.

[@peterpan9780]

this begs the question, when one had teeths removed and now gets a wider palate, are there some kind of holes where the original teeths (eg. wisdom teeths) were supposed to be?

[@void3793]

@@peterpan9780 i think thats the case, you get dark corners in your smile. If you look up dr hang he reverses orthodontic retractive treatment and actually reopens the retracted spaces. Then they but teeth implants in.

[@NimW]

I always breathed through my nose and my tongue has already naturally rested on the roof of the mouth (I was surprised people had to be instructed to do so) yet I developed a narrow palate.

[@sarahkh12]

Do you think your tongue is in the top or bottom of your mouth? Narrow palates usually come from a low postured tongue. However your genetics and the traits of your family play a roll as well :)

[@NimW]

Definitely top.

[@alenaisbetterthanu]

@@NimW I thought I was the same, maybe I just genetically had a narrow palate, but then I realized that the back portion of my tongue was not pressing up against my soft palate. If that's not happening (think of the part of your tongue and palate that touch when you say the letter K), then your tongue was only partially on the roof of your mouth. Also, I can assume during the night my mouth would relax and my tongue would drop down while I slept. Perhaps this happened to you too? That 8 hours a day x your whole life.

[@jonho1764]

Maybe you slept with your mouth open?

[@tubbsthebigcat]

@@alenaisbetterthanu smart comment. That's also something I've thought about! But in my case the many tooth extractions are probability the main cause. I had no idea it was bad until now. Goddamn dentists! Are there other ways to verify if my tongue is properly placed? The letter k example was perfect!

[@stjohnimagery]

This video is great. More People need to know about tongue posture. James Nestor brought me here.

[@diabloakland]

I have struggled with this my whole life. My tongue was way too long for my palette. I had jaw surgery too. My retainers broke in the beginning of the pandemic, it really makes my life difficult not just in appearance

[@xdavvidx]

Did the surgery helped?

[@benevans818]

how can i buy that model of teeth you're holding in your hand

[@appletv7730]

Order it online

[@goblinsnark143]

In 1976 I got a palate spreader I turned w/ a key. The Ortho was known for causing excess pain, but the spreader never hurt. My wisdom teeth were removed before they came in; no room. Luckily, my ortho was fresh out of school. An earlier dentist wanted to pull 4 teeth, my folks declined. Yikes. Don't be afraid to get a 2nd opinion.

[@iwishyouclearskin]

I developed it because they extracted 2 teeth when I had braces when I was younger. I hope this can still be fixed

[@rosaouk7188]

Same. 2 on top and 2 on bottom.

[@Zach-xm5wc]

I'm in my mid twenties and currently in the final stages of my orthodontic treatment. I did have a palatal expander in the beginning when I was getting fitted for braces. I do believe I was a mouth breather as my face is shaped downward and my cheekbones are a little faint. Is it still possible to develop an ideal face shape using myofunctional therapy, i.e proper posture, swallowing, tongue positioning, etc? Great video by the way!

[@pinkpurple6444]

Zach yes

[@heavysaber9431]

Yes but it'd be pretty slow

[@agniyoga6297]

Yes but it's a lot of work and very slow

[@WhiteNight0204]

that's literally what mewing is

[@MsBroadway209]

I’ll forever be upset about none of this being explained to my parents when I was a child. It wasn’t until I went to Dental Assisting school that I really saw everything that have been causing all these problems in my mouth. A deep bite, a tongue tie, narrow palette. Almost 3 decades of the same dentist being in my mouth, and he never thought to say anything about this. Now I have to deal with it as an adult.

[@Venuscombust]

Could you recommend a doctor in Toronto please. Thanks.

[@ImNotJoshPotter]

This is easily one of the most controversial fields of health as it leads into the idea that beauty isn't as genetic as we all thought. Also that sweet sweet money from braces. If I actually wore my retainers I would have been extra fucked.

[@pavlo3511]

My parents don’t believe this, so now I’m stuck with this

[@alexanimationgoofy]

Pawlo start doing mewing by yourself

[@Bigbiceps301]

aeaeae do mewing

[@I_Ace]

Who gives af about your parents. They are as imperfect as the next person

[@k2HUFFyK2]

can you tell me if it's possible to fix a narrow palate naturally?

[@wtfuredead]

Depends on your bone plasticity. Cells are in constant dividing and changing, so everyone has a degree of plasticity. Your best bet in order to fix this naturally is to do an extra effort in keeping your tongue on the roof of the mouth. Supplement vitamin D3 + K2(MK7) for bone plasticity, Magnesium and B vitamins(from yeast, not artificial cause your body can't use all of them) for muscle stamina.

[@ImNotJoshPotter]

Depends how narrow. If it's so bad you can't fit your tongue up there then it's going to be very difficult. Go to Dr Mews Orthotropic channel. He's the man for this stuff.

[@RealCraftIV]

@@wtfuredead hold up, so vitamin D3 + K2(MK7) essentially makes bone shaping easier? thats unreal

[@timothykemp908]

Yes it's possible. I had a very narrow arch but now its wide enough for me to get my tongue on the roof of my mouth...took about two weeks of excessive trying.

[@timothykemp908]

@@Stars-gi4obno...it's a little hard to explain but I retracted my tongue so far back in my mouth so that I could squeeze the TIP of my tongue BETWEEN the very BACK TEETH of my TOP palate. With my top teeth CLENCHED firmly (with over doing it) with my bottom teeth (to help my bottom arch widen at the same rate as my upper arch)..I moved my tongue forward along the roof of my mouth while squeezing outward with my tongue against my teeth and inner gums to widen my upper arch. Now that my dental arch is wide enough to fit my tongue...I have to do this every other day to stop it reverting back to it's original state. My smile looks about one and a half teeth wider each side but am hoping to improve that...still a work in progress. It takes time and if you were to attempt this I would caution you to take it easy, assessing everything that happens while doing this technique and afterwards. I'm now more focused on my Mewing. Best of luck.

[@bioshock19981998]

what is with the lower jaw ? the same thing - when the upper jaw - grows - same to the the lower ? Thank you ! :)

[@sarahkh12]

The upper jaw, along with the tongue in the palate, is what guides the correct growth of the lower jaw. So, if the mouth is open and the tongue is low, not only will the palate be narrow, but the lower jaw will develop smaller and at more of a down/vertical angle.

[@leno7492]

My bottom teeth are pretty bunched up, would pushing the top part of the mouth improve the bottom teeth or not?

[@H-D-D]

Hello. Im 26. I started mewing a couple months ago, I just noticed recently that my left side of my palate has expanded more and the tongue on that side is a lot stronger and my jaw looks better on that side and everything, my right side tongue touches my teeth when i try to mew, and feeling around inside my mouth with my finger i can definitely feel that my palate has expanded more on the left side and not enough on the right side... any tips on how to get the right side expanded so i can catch it back up?

[@unclebensspics9405]

Same my left side of my teeth have expanded out more than right

[@Bigbiceps301]

H_D_D that’s normal

[@altoidcluster]

H_D_D Same! It’s frustrating

[@kristijantandara1682]

You just mewed and your palate has expanded? You haven't used any of the expanders?

[@cbomb25]

I'm 36yrs old. When I was 34 I had a closed bite and no cross bite, no problems ever before, now I have both, an open front bite of about 4mm and a cross bite on one side. I have no new habits or hobbies so really confused why. No orthodonist or TMJ specialist have been able to tell me the real reason, but after 2 yrs trying to find a cause I've just decided to go for the upper palet expansion. Scary and crazy stuff.

[@ONEBROO]

I see what about now @cbomb25

[@AD-hj6qf]

i got my braces removed 4 years ago, but my jaw looks very narrow. Basically, i think thebraces made the matters worse. Would I need to get surgery to fix this?

[@pangitngpangalanko4754]

what? braces does this thing?

[@AD-hj6qf]

@@pangitngpangalanko4754 maybe... i always had a small palate but ya I went to a young dentist that probably wasn't too sure how to make my teeth look the best

[@heymickey4512]

They gave me braces and an expander. In the roof of my mouth. It was awful though and i couldn’t bear it. Had to have them take it out. Kept the braces a bit longer but then opt out too. Way too painful

[@user89076]

If I got teeth extractions for braces in high school, can I undo the effects in my late 20's? I have a long midface and narrow palate, and am worried that it might be too late to improve. Can you tell me what you think?

[@maygeemo8357]

user89076 Im having the problem right now.. except I have bracess right now and 1.8 years in. please tell us what you think! Should I ask my doctor aboit expanders at this point?

[@user89076]

@@maygeemo8357 I think it wouldn't hurt to ask your orthodontist about an expander. Maybe see about getting a Homeoblock appliance or something. I know that it's better to ask now, because orthodontic work is usually covered by insurance the first time, or when you're still a teen, so take advantage of it while you can.

[@kuhcena2997]

get a MSE appliance

[@Demonstrably]

Hi Sarah. Can a middle aged adult expand their palette (after their arches were shrunk by IPR Invisalign 7 years ago? Thank you ❤

[@zoelouise7330]

I’m nearly 25 and have severe face pain. Do you think I could still expand my upper jaw? I have a very narrow V shaped palate.

[@copyninja8756]

Yes, if you started when you made this comment

[@peachtea4551]

So I discovered mewing like 5-6 days ago, and I ran with it, to the point where my top teeth were a bit sore like when I got braces. I probably was too passionate about it, but I made my palate even narrower and my top teeth stick out a bit more and they were already sticking out!😥 I think I put too much force to the front of my palate. I'm surprised that changes happened so fast at 29, so I think this is worth getting right. But what do I do now, the back of my tongue doesn't fit at the roof of my mouth anymore!

[@sariyachone7905]

how does your teeth stick out if your palate is narrow? what are you saying?

[@diabloakland]

@@sariyachone7905 she is probably referring to overjet from pushing the teeth with tongue

[@Ann]

when I place my tongue sucked to the roof of my mouth, my tongue always touches my front lower teeth and its between my side teeth as well. Do I have a fat tongue :p I do always nose breath tho but I do clench my teeth in the night

[@sarahkh12]

Hi Ann, I think it will just take practice and muscle tone to change that. Once your tongue gets strong enough to stay in the top of your mouth without suctioning it there, that may help. Most people do not have tongues that are "too fat", they have palates that are narrow and tongues that have very low muscle tone.

[@Ann]

ok I will do the exercises daily and see how it goes:) really want to get the clenching under control.

[@relevantduke2047]

Ann I love your asmr channel! so weird seeing you here😂. ive started learning proper tongue posture for a month and at the start i fount it difficult to breath when the back posterior 1/3 of my tongue was on the roof of my mouth. So i dont think youve acually got your entire tongue on of the roof. try checking out Dr Mike Mew's othotropic's channel he explains how to swallow and find the sensation of having the BACK of the tongue on the palate.

[@angelknapp3360]

How do you build tongue muscle tone?

[@qooooe]

@@angelknapp3360 tongue chew. Roll gum into a ball shape then flatten it on the roof of your mouth as wide as you can all with your tongue, then keep repeating the process.

[@Samanthastone90]

I have a narrow arch and my smile is narrow. I want a broader smile so more teeth show. Should I look into ortho treatment like an expander?

[@alaynalx1272]

everyone breaths through their mouth? thats not true, is it? ive always breathed through my nose and yet i have a narrow pallet.

[@tomasolearcin4071]

Does palate expander works for adults too?

[@lolzboiii8371]

Yes but it takes time

[@kimchee-ys8qw]

@@lolzboiii8371 how long 😢

[@alextroll550]

I am 16 years old. Is it too late to expand with correct tongue posture ?

[@hanaabechara4071]

it’s not too late!!

[@solmerete276]

Is this only for children? Thank you

[@michael-h5t5t]

what exactly does do these appliances change? the height and width of the palate itself or just move teeth?

[@ovidiudrobota2182]

As an adult, is it possible to expand my palate just by hard mewing and having my lips sealed? I'm 28 years old. Your response would be much appreciated. Thanks!

[@ovidiudrobota2182]

I also want to mention that my tongue fits alright in my narrow palate but my front teeth are placed too in front.

[@jonnbudden9954]

It’s never to late brother just takes more effort

[@lindseyabbie7]

You didn't mention DNA appliance . What are your thoughts on the DNA appliance ?

[@ghhggghhg4581]

Would a 15 year old need a palate expander or could mewing vigorously do the same job

[@comicstwisted]

can MSE also cause the maxilla to project forward and up or is it just horizontal growth

[@tubbsthebigcat]

I also wanna know

[@Ebombda12543]

If you use reverse headgear aka face mask yes

[@iimmannii]

I have an extremely narrow palate. I had an underbite as a child. I had 2 palate expander rounds and I am just now trying to learn how to rest my tongue properly. I wish anyone talked to me about my palate. I didn't know any of this.

[@diabloakland]

I feel the same exact way. I had jaw surgery too but still no one talks about this. It makes me depressed

[@merrii3jane]

What do you recommend if a child is too young for expansion

[@roninbushida1180]

Hey, So I'm 18 and I have a narrow palate. My orthodontist used a palate expander on my top arch and it worked a bit, but my upper arch is still pretty small. Is it possible to get it done again? As a result of a small palate, I have had crowding on both top and bottom. Any advice would be appreciated.

[@tai-chitvpastorellahealthp8741]

I would like to hear how you think myofunctional therapy would address and help aleviate vocal cord dysfunction and associated breathing difficulties. I am very interested in your work.

[@tullerules5516]

Hello! I've been mewing since...December of last year, I believe. Nose breathing and proper swallowing/tongue posture are pretty natural to me now. I think that my upper arch began to expand because the gap between my two front teeth is back and it's starting to look less crooked, but it's still veeeery narrow. My lower jaw is also narrow (I have a class 3 malocclusion and I'm really trying to avoid surgery). It is honestly really painful these days and I'm in constant discomfort. Could myofunctional therapy, or even appliances, be of any benefit to me? There are no Orthotropists in my state but a doctor in my city does the DNA appliance. I don't mind getting rapid palatal expansion, either. I just want my face to grow the way that it was supposed to and I really want to avoid something as drastic as double jaw surgery.

[@tubbsthebigcat]

How did it go? Did you get that DNA appliance? I hope everything is fine ! Wish you the best. Please update if you see this message :)

[@mariangelamariangela4199]

How did it go?

[@Sahil_verma17]

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[@Sahil_verma17]

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[@Sahil_verma17]

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[@vette4118]

which of the treatments are the least expensive - the cost is insanely High

[@laporte1625]

Hello, would you say these appliances would be of use at any age? Like 40, 50, etc?

[@RS54321]

I'd say so. I talked to a dentist who said at 60 he was able to widen his maxilla by 7 mm using an appliance. Change is possible at any age w/ determination and consistency.

[@essennagerry]

I have a narrow palate but not sUpEr narrow and I haven't ever had any health problems because of it. Growing up I definitely breathed more through the nose, but I don't know what my tongue posture was, I think both as a kid and as a yound adult (I'm 23) it's been resting at the bottom quite a bit. Also, often I catch my teeth not really touching and the tongue filling the little strip of space between the teeth while touching the roof of the mouth as well. Right now _I think_ my tongue doesn't fit in the palate as it also touches both the upper set and part of the bottom set of teeth when I push it there. I'm not sure if that means it doesn't fit or if it's ok. My question is: I want to widen my palate even though I don't have any health problems. Is that ok to do? Is it dangerous? Is it possible to get a palatal expander which is more mild?

[@YT-wv5wv]

How can i expand my lower pleat, lower part of my jaw ?

[@GenieBright]

Can the ALF appliance work on someone who has had maxilla surgery?

[@MoonyGranger]

hi I wanted to ask if it is to late when i start with 13?

[@toniboloni2]

what do you think about damon braces for palate expansion

[@Beast_editz-yk8qq]

Could you please answer this! Should the tip of my tounge rest above my fron teeth's gums?

[@xxsamperrinxx3993]

Fantastic video. What's your opinion on the maxillary skeletal expander? (MSE)

[@15.sujalrewadikar48]

What should I tell my orthodontic for this situation

[@lotvaccount9280]

Great video! I did not know about the Vivos appliance. If you get more information about it I would like to know how it is different from the DNA appliance. I visited their homepage but I could not find any images etc of the appliance. Like another commenter here I too am "mewing". Meaning that I am applying correct resting oral posture while breathing through my nose at all times during day and night and that I am swallowing correctly at all times. Basically, it's the same thing as myofunctional therapy. I'm an adult and in the 3 months I have been doing this I have noticed significant change, I have measured it very thoroughly. It should be mentioned though, that I in addition to everything mentioned above also press upwards with my tongue a lot during the day. I do this to help strengthen the tongue and to improve my resting tongue posture. UPDATE: If anyone else tries to do this keep in mind that the maxilla is very plastic for a bone. Pay close attention to the changes that happen. You do not want to rush the process and risk doing damage. If you do this, my advice is to only do it in the very beginning of the process to help you with tongue posture and tongue strength. I am curious, do you know about the work of Dr. Mike Mew? I'm asking this because I am wondering if all people involved in this new movement (if you will) within orthodontics are collaborating or not. Dr. Mike Mew to me seems to be the most vocal doctor about the importance of the tongue, for example through his youtube page. He also claims significant change is possible even in adults that have lacked correct resting oral posture during their earlier lives, even though he is very clear in that it can take a long time.

[@sarahkh12]

I'm just learning about the VIvos appliance too. I think it's pretty new, and you're right, it's a hybrid of the DNA from what I can tell. I think Dr Mike Mew is awesome and I agree with everything he does and recommends! I love what he's doing and how he's pushing the envelope for the dental industry. Keep Mewing :)

[@kaseyyrenae]

i have been hearing tooth borne appliances are not great for adults, and MSE or EASE are the way to go?

[@Elkinz00]

I had my wisdom teeth extracted...does this make my lower jaw snaller (it was the lower ones)

[@pinacoco1366]

I am one one the victim with premolar extractions combined with orthodontic treatment. What would be the best solution to bring it back to the genetic Base. I am happy with the way i look but i feel like this issue blocks me smiling confidentally..

[@fabricmakeup9555]

Is narrow palette possible with great jaw???

[@dexallyndiego2974]

Does the myobrace can help widen palate? Because i use now their t4a. Do u think it can help?

[@susansmith1720]

Hello Did you get up getting any palate work expansion done?In the video you said you were considering it.I have extremely narrow palate and considering options.Getting tongue tie removed first

[@janpieterszooncoen2550]

Your palate doesn't seem narrow.

[@crates12]

Hi Sarah, thanks for the information your trying to get out to the public. I had an obstructed nasal airway from 0-27yrs, this I believe caused me a lot of problems. I had both my wisdom teeth as well as 4 other teeth removed when I was 14 to solve the overcrowding that resulted from constant mouth breathing. Looking back I am thinking that these measures were dealing with the fallout of having an obstructed nasal airway. Recently I had a septorhinoplasty that has given me the amazing gift of breathing through my nose. Is there anyway to go back and correct some of the issues that I still have? (narrow palate, poor lower jaw alignment etc.)

[@skipper7316]

Similar situation, but I was lucky to realize when I’m still young. God, when your face is re reversed in photos, or doubled in the mirror, you see just how crooked and ugly your entire jaw and nose are. You’re teeth are at a completely different angle It’s terrible. I’d suggest looking up mewing if you still care.

[@bartomiejjarosz5392]

Can an expander widen the mouth?

[@DavidLee-sz1gj]

Sarah whats your opinion on the AGGA appliance? Seems its working on adults and elderly in a very rapid rate.

[@mermaidblues8684]

Hi Sarah. you mention the ALF appliance. does damon braces do the same or make enough difference to widen a narrow palate?

[@MrsAngloOrtho]

How do you find a practitioner who will do pallet expansion, but nothing else? The orthodontists in my area will only do the full spectrum of care, not just the pallet expansion.

[@priyankaarora7076]

My 5 months old have high arched palate. I m worried about it. What to do?

[@BananazCheerleader]

Does anyone have information on where to get an appliance? Do you go to an orthodontist?

[@altaccount6946]

Im confused. If you get a palate expander, but your bite is already good in terms of molar interaction, wont expansion of the maxilla throw this out? Wouldnt you need to expand the mandible at the same rate to keep the bite in-tact?

[@Cr1Ro7]

Ig you need to expand both upper and lower palate

[@mohammedhafiz7098]

After I take off my braces I found my palate to be super narrow. Then onwards I am very sad and angry (because it cause my face to change shape due to narrow palate). Is there any treatment to get my palate back. Hope will answer

[@aryanvijay4640]

My palate became very high and narrow due to mewing . It make my face assymetrical and now i cant breathe . Plzzz reply😥

[@eugenekagansky4275]

Can teeth/gum massage help to widen narrow palate?

[@formerjedi8464]

How much pressure should I use to put my tongue on the roof of my mouth

[@Mak12368]

Do you get a nicer looking smile with a wider palate for men. Thanks

[@SleeplessinOC]

Well I actually want a slightly more narrow face than what I have now (my face is kind of wide and round ) so expanding my palate doesn’t sound like something I’d want to do unless I really really do have a narrow palate . I wish I could slightly narrow down my face (impossible for the most part) and elongate my chin which is very short. While I understand that myofunctional therapy could stop the chin from receding and getting shorter , it can’t actually physically elongate the chin can it? I wish it could .

[@serdaravsar5181]

Is palate expansion possible for adults? I have a very narrow palate because of a retractive orthodontic treatment during my childhood and I cannot place my tongue in the correct position because of it. Is there any hope of expansion without surgery? Are there any dentists who can do that? I am very sure that there are none in my country Turkey.

[@saurianscapes2805]

If you have a narrow palate and then they expand it, how will the upper jaw fit on the lower jaw??

[@sarahkh12]

The teeth/jaws move together with orthodontic treatment :)

[@choccocker]

I have this and it feels awful when i chew.

[@lavliina2136]

how do you change a narrow palate as an adult?

[@LockedOn2016]

Hello. Can invisilign help improve the Buccol corridor/ narrow palette?

[@shaistalodhi2362]

can just using proper tounge posture widen my palate

[@64bit-]

what should I should I do if my bottom arc is too small? my bottom dental arc is smaller than my top, I've noticed quite recently as I discovered mewing. my bottom arc is too small my top dental arc, which makes my teeth rest to the side this in turn has made my face asymmetrical. I don't know what I can do to fix this, any advice would b helpful.

[@APN34Z]

Hi Sarah, i know this is 6 years old but im nearly 43 years old, im really bad with severe sleep apnea and the CPAP doesn't help, been on it for 2 years now, ive also had nasal septum surgery and turbinate but i still cant breathe well, still mouth breathing, i have a class 3 lower jaw and a v shaped narrow/deep upper palate but my care here over in Manchester England seems to be non existent as they dont think any kind of jaw surgery will benefit me, can you suggest anything to me please, suffering immensely here, even my back and neck are really sore, i cant even sleep on my side anymore due to constant pains!

[@samanthareed2487]

Hi, I am on a similar journey. Have you heard of the biological dentist Dr Seb Lomas?

[@stephenkennethombayan2617]

Can a under bite expand the palate without the use of any appliance just mewing only?

[@acousticalien]

But why is a narrow palate passed down from parents to children? Is the bone growth genetic?

[@rosescott6944]

Hi Sarah! Thanks for the wonderful info! I know that this is years later but, did you get the ALF appliance to widen your palate?

[@sisic6301]

i developed a narrow upper jaw because i had crowded teeth so i got braces and 2 teeth extractions from my upper jaw 8 years ago when i was 13 now i realized im slightly developing a crossbite too because of my narrow upper jaw plus my back teeth are not touching each other properly and i have jaw pain i went to see many dentists and nobody has ever told me about palatal expanders one of them even told me about getting a jaw surgery but then added it doesnt neccessary that much i kinda felt angry when i learned about palatal expanders by myself but i did so many researches about my problems now ill try another dentist and talk about expanders and ill definitely write here what the dentist tells me

[@nataligonzalez5357]

Can insurance cover this is you do have trouble breathing?

[@Iden_Elihio_1999]

I am scared my molars will start to come out if I do this ?

[@heymickey4512]

They tried fixing this for me as a kid with a expander with this thing that had a key it was cemented in my mouth and it got bigger every so many weeks or whatever it was incredibly painful come to find out every time the key was turned it expanded it was spreading a slice in the lid of my mouth!! They had installed it way to close to upper part of my mouth it was so painful. I tear up remembering it and now deal with almost biting my tongue all the time.

[@toxicwaste920]

does narrow palate cause TMJ issues? I am in my 30s and my dentist want me to have an upper/lower expander. I am not convinced.

[@JulesLife]

That dot that is furthest back doesn’t seem far back enough. If that’s all…. Wow I’m actually able to do it haha. I’ve been working hard on being able to push on the veeeery furthest back part of the hard part of the roof of my mouth. Am I going overboard?

[@cyberqueen777]

I think mine has to do with chronic thumbsucking as a child. The roof of my mouth is so high. Had braces to fix it in my 30's which worked but I didn't keep up with the retainer and now the mouth has moved back into the narrow shape. Which makes me think that the body naturally wants to create a narrow palate. Not sure but I want to change it back again.

[@amandamcclare7314]

Hi, I have a narrow upper arch due to extractions for previous orthodontic treatment. Years later my teeth have now shifted back and I am left with a narrow upper arch and crossbite. Please, what can I do? I am almost 30 and some of my teeth are being damaged by my bite.

[@lutfisksoppa2122]

but my pallet is narrow as fking hell and i have been a nose-breather my whole life

[@alinadaych8866]

Hello Sarah, I need some advice with my daughter's treatment. I know it is difficult to do so without seeing her, but anything you can suggest will be great. She is 13.5 and has a narrow upper and lower jaw due to the fact that she was suckling on her tongue, yes the tongue, I did not make a mistake. I don't really think she has sleep apnea, but I guess I cannot be 100 % sure, don't know much about it. She is generally breathing throuh her nose. She still has 9 of her baby teeth and the one , tooth that fell out a few months ago, still does not have the adult tooth growing yet. We found a doctor who is offering to do the upper jaw widening with Crozet appliance, but he is very expansive. The upper treatment is going to be around $4000, with the total for lower and upper estimate running into 7200. Plus he says she will require a therapist like you, which will be additional 3000. What concerns me is that he doesn't guarantee anything and the treatment is very expensive. Is this generally the price, from what you Know? Should the myofunctional therapy be included in the treatment? Do you think this will work at her age and make the jaw wider, she is going to be 14 in August? My worry is that the doctor is taking advantage of us because he is the only one in our area offering his treatment.

[@jimmyfallon2484]

Get the ALF

[@anmar813]

Get MSE treatment. asap for the girl

[@kimchee-ys8qw]

@@anmar813 what is Mse?

[@zbenzine270]

Mewing has not been scientifically supported. In fact, studies on tongue posture demonstrated that placing one’s tongue on the roof of the mouth decreases heart rate variability.

[@firebird7479]

What if you're biting the sides of your tongue?

[@Ahmed_Lol986]

I have a narrow palate but I can keep my Tounge up in the roof of my mouth but it not fully touching the palate

[@Ahmed_Lol986]

I am 17 years old

[@abram-br2dd]

Does myofunctional therapy work with people that have braces?

[@morakghazali8391]

cn this work with adults?

[@PowerRedBullTypology]

Hi Sarah. Were you also a mouthbreather before? From your looks, i'd guess you were? And I assume you have correct or more optimal tongue posture now than you did before. I was wondering if you (still) notice improvement in your facial form? (for example, wider face, wider palate, wider jaw, etc etc)

[@sarahkh12]

Hello, yes I was a mouth breathing kid for sure. I have all of the facial growth and skeletal/dental problems as an adult that result from that, unfortunately. That's what lead me to get into this field :) I think if I didn't know about myofunctional therapy (correct tongue posture and breathing, etc) I'd have sleep apnea and chronic TMJ issues or much bigger problems by now. I have definitely seen positive changes to my appearance over the last 8 years, but more than anything, I know the problems are not getting worse as I age, so that's good! Great observation though :)

[@jayheart8099]

my dentist said i have the smallest mouth they’ve seen.....

[@ray_x6959]

rip you

[@prince_sach50]

same lol

[@jamie615]

I had all of my top molars extracted a few years ago bc of damaged root canals...im getting implants...do you think that the implants will help my face look more like it used too less narrow and more full? I have a narrow palette but my tongue is always at the top of my mouth, i dont breath through my mouth, but I do feel some restriction in my nose breathing...should I relsease my mild tongue tie, get implants, and do palette expansion? thank you!

[@veronikarachek4845]

Would u like to exchange experience? I got my 2 premolard extracted, and now my palates are pretty narrow although I do not breathe through my mouth and my posture is correct. I am thinking of widening my palates and getting implants. Where r u from?