How To Get CRUSHING GUITAR TONES with TWO CLASSIC AMPS!

[@jarilindholm1845]

Auto captions: "Hi, I'm El Governor", what could be more fitting for a Marshall video? 😂 Still waiting for them to get your name right though!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Hah! 😁

[@allboutthemojo]

​@EugeValovirta230V you did a video recently about master volumes on amps and explained how it's not really a master because it affects the power amp tubes ( distortion). So in your opinion, if one wants to play the big amps like the dsl 100hr or the 5150 ( 100 watt) at home, is the best way to use an attenuator after the amp between the amp and speaker cab?

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Yes attenuator is the way to go then.@@allboutthemojo

[@allboutthemojo]

@@EugeValovirta230V 👍

[@Joey.Darkwoods-Studio]

800 + sd1 for the win! But your tone is always massive. Great video and info as always.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks!

[@kazabubu10]

Internet listen to Mr. Valovirta VERY carefully....his video documented knowledge saved me from selling my TSL602 (cause I foolishly thought it didn't have enough gain 🧐) and buying another amp...it turns out all I needed to get some serious modern metal tones was a f%$#!g overdrive....Keep up the great work man...🤘🤘🤘

[@EugeValovirta230V]

👌🤟. Thanks!

[@VaiSolo]

Euge! Hey man, I've been away from the channel for a while but it's so good to be back. Your tone is always killer and your playing never fails to put a smile on my face, and then I just have to grab my guitar. Fully agree with you about the EMGs but was wondering, have you ever tried their Het Set? Would also like to see you light up a Splawn Nitro with KT88s. 👊

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks and welcome back! Yeah I had them on one guitar but I don't have the guitar anymore :-).

[@jedininjaknight8733]

I could watch Euge vids all day long...

[@dalejacksonmo]

I think you play amazing I only wish I could play like you and your right I own some great gear...I can't play as good as all of you badass amazing players...I do have really bad arthritis tho..I keep on plucking tho

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks!

[@trenceraponer]

I like emg 81 and used them for years. That being said I started using Duncan custom sh5 a few years ago and I think I like it more. It’s somewhat neutral and leaves me a lot of room to work with. Cheers to you!

[@metalceesie219]

Great video again!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks!

[@jroz8111]

I love this tone. Really Killer tight and its wide with the two amps. IT really opens it out through my speakers even on small laptop. Sounds killer

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Glad to hear! Thanks!

[@tmysty]

Thanks man!!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

You’re welcome. Thanks!

[@Paul-dw2cl]

I like that sound a lot 6:34

[@EugeValovirta230V]

🤟

[@vintagetone22]

Nice.just get 2 marshalls jcm 800 and boost them with keeley filament distortion .oh and full volume with a nice gibson les paul.and job done.👍👍👍👍🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Can't argue with personal preferences but if it sounds good it's good 😉.

[@BS-gj5ot]

great sounds as always

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks!

[@brandonjackson5865]

A lot of the crack and snap on the lower strings the chugs comes from your right hand technique and Euge, has a fantastic right hard technique. The Marshall though with the SD1 that’s the sound man! The 5150 is great and it’s sorta like a demo saw, but the Marshall a scalpel and the percussive clank from a boosted Marshall is the shit . Both amps sound great and especially blended together, but if I could only have one give me the Marshall with a SD1 all day long! The speakers and cabs are the most important part of the signal chain and guitar players are starting to figure it out. The cats out of bag. Speakers aren’t sexy like amps and pedals but you’d do better to have a couple different cab and speaker than a bunch of different amps.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

I agree 100%. Thanks! On this one I dialled a bit more "demo saw" tone from the 5150 than if I'd use it alone. Just to make it even more different than the 800.

[@willchug]

Excellent. 🙏🤝🇦🇺 I use a 6505+ and a DSL100HR with the Mimiq pedal for crushing single guitarist live tones. I agree, when I use 2 of the same amps it not even close. Blend 100%

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Cool!

[@Wild2MildAlan]

I learned this technique a few years ago. I have a Boss GT-8 programmed with a few stereo rigs: Clean-JC120/Fender Twin, Rhythm 1-5150/Marshall, Rhythm 2-5150/Mesa, Lead 1-5150/HK Triamp, Lead 2-Soldano/HK TriAmp. They sound killer for a digital box, not like your rig, but for the basement guitar player it's badass. Jay Yuenger of White Zombie recorded AstroCreep 2000 with 4 halfstacks of Randall, Marshall and Mesa components. Every song has all 4 stacks in the mix with the levels adjusted differently on each song. Incredible tone that is somewhat impossible to duplicate.

[@Wild2MildAlan]

BTW you have a great channel and I'm really digging your work with your bands and solo music! Thank you for your creative content and awesome tunes!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Cool man! Indeed.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Oh thanks man!@@Wild2MildAlan

[@jackmurphy8696]

Marshall does sound the best though I will always love my 5150

[@MrJingles021]

That tone was so good. Glenn Fricker would love it, too. Are there any IRs you'd recommend to help getting these tones?

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks! Jesn Bogren’s IRs are great. If I use an IR instead of a real mic’d cab I use those. Mostly my signature IR ’Valovirtuous’ from his Lead & Clean pack and SoundOfGod2 & GreasyBeard from his Rhythm pack. All of these works great for cleans, rhythms & leads IMO. With my link / code in the description below you get a discount 👌.

[@jcmmnx]

Hard to beat that massive sound.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

I agree 😎.

[@innate7260]

coolest dude on the tube

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Don’t know about that but thanks! 😎🤟🙏

[@InDecemberOfficial]

Man, please join In Flames and make them great again. Many thanks.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

😎

[@InDecemberOfficial]

@@EugeValovirta230V or even better, do something with Jesper 🤘

[@EugeValovirta230V]

We do: cyhra.com/@@InDecemberOfficial

[@THEJOEDAVISBAND]

I dig your videos

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Glad to hear! Thanks!

[@massimodezio4506]

Hello Euge good morning. Terrific useful stuff: very clearly and logically explained, Compliments! Would you mind to answer a question? Do you have a sistematic process to establish when it is time to go on from what you are practicing today to new stuff (basically pure technique)? My problem : I cannot normally bring my studies to the bpm speed i want to because it would last forever, and of course I have also to integrate new material in my routine. What are the signs you notice (or the process you use) to put that particular thing to the side (and maybe revisit it in the future?) and bring in new stuff to learn? i hope this make some sense :D Thank you in advance and keep rockin´! maxx

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Glad to hear! Thanks! I just play & write music all the time. If I hear a lick / line etc. in my head I’m not able to play good enough IMO I just work on it until I can. That’s pretty much it.

[@These_go_to_eleven_1959]

Even though i do not use one in any of my guitars i still defend the EMG 81 as a incredible p'u for Metal and heavier styles and even not so heavy tones like some have shown the EMG 81 also will work for Blues /Rock. Gary Moore use a 81 in his Charvel's but also played and used Les paul's with Gibson P.A.F's. There are others in music that are not Metal that use 81 and get great tones. Shame it has a rep for being a Metal only pickup.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Indeed 👌.

[@chemloaf3020]

As a wannabe guitar player, I LOVE this style of playing.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Glad to hear! Thanks!

[@erikwagonblott3334]

Over the years I've discovered that many of my favorite recorded guitar sounds were a 5150 blended with some kind of Marshall. Sounds huge!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Yeah it works pretty much always 💪.

[@ruhrpottflo2249]

Intro song is like a Parkway Drive Song. This content ist awesome my friend !!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks! Really glad to hear!

[@satarello]

Love these amps. !!!! Great classic selective sound..

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Likewise 🙂. Indeed.

[@bc454irocz89]

you are right about the emg vs passive I agree 100%

[@EugeValovirta230V]

👌🤟

[@zandig666]

I wish my amp made those sounds 😄😄🤟🤟💪💪 love when it's flubby then I click my ds-1 on and it's toit, toit like a tiger 🤣🤣😋

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Yeah! :-)

[@joebrostout9897]

Hi there! Great tones i must say ! Have you some kind amp switcher there also ?

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks! Yeah KHE and I’m controlling that with my board: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5C6oaiQjJdlepYsi=qTuOJIiOoVZfc3Zz

[@s1wheel4]

I love the “bullshit” line. 💯correct with me as well.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Good 😎👌

[@riffmondo9733]

I own them both! Great mix brother!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Cool! Thanks!

[@gilbertostefan]

What a tone! But the song was sweeeeet!!!🙌

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks!

[@acbenitez3614]

It is in your 🙌

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Pretty much

[@jessesaira6120]

Hello Euge, Your channel Rock's hard 🤘🤘 Could you please inform why you have the Warm Audio Tone buttons on while recording guitar? I guess it gives more mid focused tone?

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks! That’s the API crunch. Without it it’s just a clean pre. Kinda. Explained here: warmaudio.com/wa412/

[@jessesaira6120]

@@EugeValovirta230V Allright, thanks for the tip, Ill try recording guitars with the tone button engaged next time! 💪

[@fearlesstrooper8536]

Hey Euge...this is an older video from you but still interesting. What do you think about the Fishman Fluence modern PU's as an EMG fan guy?

[@dickieradd]

Dude YOU are my KZbin guitarist crush.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

😁

[@jackmurphy8696]

All it takes is to record two different emg or fishman fluence loaded guitars in a daw and play them back to know there is a difference between guitars with those pickups.

[@80s_kid]

Great content! Classic guitar recording with microphones.👏Euge, if you want, make some IR files with your V30 and Greenback speakers. There could be four IRs: both speakers would have a "right" and "left" version with slightly different microphone positions. ( I have your Bogren IR but it's not enough.😅)

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks! I might do that in the future since quite many people have asked for those.

[@80s_kid]

@@EugeValovirta230V 👍

[@Mar33322]

Euge can make a 20 watt Gorilla amp sound like a million bucks !

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Don't know about that but a few bucks 😀.

[@sjcortese]

Both amps sound great! Thanks for these vids, always informative. Do you track with those eq's as part of your template, or do you add them when it's time to mix?

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks! I track without any processing and when it’s time to mix I add what I feel is needed.

[@johnp.3225]

Euge, thanks for such an interesting video. About cabs, not speakers, do you know if the Marshall 1960BV and the Marshall 1960B sound the same? I dont know if one or another were made to match JCM 800 or JCM 900 or none of these two necessarily. Also, I dont know if they have the same wood quality and dimensions, as well. Thanks for your attention, mate.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks! I think they're exactly the same cabs but I'm not 100% sure. I think the only difference is the speakers they come loaded with.

[@teemunator]

EMG 81 is quite a sterile pickup, but gives more room to dial tone from amp etc.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

And the tone of the guitar really comes through. My fav bridge pickup since early 90s :-).

[@johannalvarsson9299]

Yeah, and honestly, with that much distortion on it, "sterility" does not really matter.

[@timothy5974]

I own a 5150combo, how different is the head only? Thanx Euge always great to see a new video. Rawk N Roll🤘🤘🔥🔥🤓

[@EugeValovirta230V]

I'd assume it's the same amp but in a combo format and less power but I'm not sure. I've never played with one. Thanks!

[@johannalvarsson9299]

The resonance frequency of the "cab" is a lot higher than that of a 4x12. That makes a massive difference. The preamp-circuitry should be basically the same.

[@timothy5974]

I do also run it through a 5150 straight cab when I want to piss off the neighbors. Thanx 🤘🤘

[@MichaelSorensen-bl3ec]

Really enjoying your recent videos featuring Japanese guitars. They are so underrated. And it helps that you can play them so well!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Glad to hear thanks! Indeed.

[@DimKAt21]

KIller tones friend 🤟

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks!

[@alexandermsanchez]

Great video Ev. Next time talk about your new gear setup. " New console".... and all's stuff s !! Cheers.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks! I’ve done a few videos about the SSL stuff but there’s probably more to come.

[@alexandermsanchez]

@@EugeValovirta230V really I learn a lot of things. Of mixing. And mastering.. thanks for spread you knowledge. To all of us...

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Glad to hear man! Thanks!@@alexandermsanchez

[@TexAgsArmyVet]

I'm wondering if you could run a stereo rig with these two amps. As in, hit both with the SD-1 then go into an analog chorus pedal. I wonder how it would work/sound. 🤘🤘🤘🤘

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Sure like with any two amps.

[@TexAgsArmyVet]

@EugeValovirta230V I appreciate that you reply to comments on your videos! I've spoken to you a couple times via email. Thank you for responding and being a genuinely good dude! Your tone is always fantastic. I hit up the email address you gave me when I inquired about buying one of your signature guitars...still waiting on them. Rock on Brother! 🤘

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks man! Oh that’s cool!

[@GarryParker]

Hi Euge, that sounded amazing, thanks for the tips. I recently managed to pick up a Marshall 1960A quite cheap and it's loaded with the standard Celestion G12T-75. It sounds fine to me, but what do think of those speakers? Would you swap for V30s or maybe mix them?

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks! I have two T75s on my 1960BX Greenback cab but I hardly use them. If I do it's just blending them. The mids are really strange on those speakers. They sound pretty good when you stand in front of a cab but mic'd it sounds like the sound is coming from far away in a strange way. I'd swap two of those to Marshall Vintage speakers. Not Celestion V30s; they're good too but the OG Marshall Vintage is better IMO. It's much fuller without any harsh upper mids.

[@GarryParker]

@@EugeValovirta230V thanks so much. The main issue I have with the cab is that it's extremely directional. If I stand just a few degrees off centre it sounds completely different. Thanks for the advice, I'll see if I can find some OG Marshall Vintage.

[@Arkadius87]

Are you still using Iridium? Want to buy one. But I'm nowadays a bit stuck, should I buy Iridium or maybe Tonex..

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Yeah absolutely. It's my main live amp: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nprCioKBq7qUrJosi=CXqnccqLUABJE48d

[@xuliofb6726]

Love your videos!!!!! One question...when there's 2 guitarrists in a band to record metal rhythm chuga chuga, should they use the same equipment to record, Amps, cabs, mics...??? And should only one of them do rhythm?

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Glad to hear thanks! There's no wrong or right; whatever works / sounds the best in any given situation/song etc. For example on the latest Cyhra album 'The Vertigo Trigger' I played rhythms for certain songs and Marcus' for certain songs. It was just like "ok you do this one, I'll do this one" etc. And I think on some songs we both played rhythms 'cos it also seemed to work just fine. We used all of my amps, cabs, mics etc. and I can't really remember anymore which one used which amps on different songs but for rhythms it was mostly like on this video except we used several different mic pairs just to get even more variety.

[@xuliofb6726]

@@EugeValovirta230V what I mean is for rhythm its better to not change speaker and mic position for the same stereo pair guitars??...amp and guitars eq you can change for tone...but for speaker and mic position??

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Whatever works is the way to go. I've recorded many times with two SM57s in the Fredman Style to other side and then this pair to another side and sometimes, when I've done four tracks, I've used two more other pairs for those. Just whatever seems to work the best. I have always four pair of mics coming in from my cabs (1960BV & 1960BX) to my mic pre and sometimes I record them all and then just choose which ones I'll use when I'm mixing. You just have to make sure that those are all phase aligned with each other.@@xuliofb6726 .

[@tilperose]

Why you like the Blockletter logo and brand name in front of the grill and not on the back? :)

[@EugeValovirta230V]

I don't care how they are. They were like this when I bought the amp back in the day. But it looks kinda cool when there's no wooden thing in front and you can see the tubes glowing 😎

[@RG_1991]

Both amps very cool, but i think Marshall be better in mix☝️

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Yes. Depends on the mix obviously.

[@evilmetalrobb9721]

If you play with balls, out of amp will sound balls. I remember your advice. Very wise.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Indeed 😎💪

[@SuperTech123451]

What kind of guitar pick do you use?

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Basic purple Dunlop Tortex 1,14mm

[@monsteralex3098]

Hey Euge! Thank you for great tutorial! In my case upon your recommendations from the past videos I am using for recording Suhr Reactive Load and Impulses from Jens Bogren (Sound of God EQ2). I have better results with quad tracking as those guitars sound much bigger. Using Engl Fireball 60 and Czech Boutique amp ESH Series 2000 hg 50/2. Just want to ask you if it is necessary to EQ those Impulses from Jens or they are already made to fit the mix? Thanks man!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Cool! That’s obviously impossible for me to know since I have no idea that what is the mix you’re referring to. But if it works without doing anything while mixing then I guess it’s mix ready 😎. But since every recording, production, mix, and probably what is the ”targeted sound” is different is very unlikely that something just works for anything without any post processing.

[@monsteralex3098]

@@EugeValovirta230V I understand. Thank you for your reply. Appreciate it a lot 🙂

[@MotoRiff77]

Have you tried the 24v mod with your 81? I’ve been using it for awhile and still not quite sure how I feel

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Haven't found the need so no.

[@brevink01]

Hi ! favorite boost to push a already dirty Superlead/Plexi type amp? also the SD1?

[@EugeValovirta230V]

SD-1 and Zuta’s TRIAX clean boost is really good. I’ve been using it a lot with my Plexi lately. My old TS-808 works also great.

[@user-zf9gk2ss7i]

Fucking great sound.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

🙏💪

[@lovecraftmusic8717]

Hi Euge, how would you describe the emg81 eq wise? I just installed one and the tone seems pretty balanced and clear (no specific freq boost or cut ). Am I right? I'm not familiar with this pickup yet 😅

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Like I said in the video that it has a great mid focused tone and not flubby lows or ear piercing highs. So it’s really balanced indeed IMO. Great choice! 👌🎶

[@lovecraftmusic8717]

@@EugeValovirta230V ah ok, sorry I didn't understand it when you said it... 🇮🇹 Thanks for the reply 🙂

[@dalejacksonmo]

I have a big question brother...if you had to choose between a Marshall dsl100hr or 5150 iconic...about the same money which would you prefer for heavy rock and metal

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Damn that’s a hard one. They both can do the job really well so probably the one that would cost less 😎.

[@dalejacksonmo]

@@EugeValovirta230V Thank you it is hard .but that's where I've narrowed down my budget and next purchase..you demoed both and I like them both..I was quite surprised by the big difference of dsl and jcm800 bad boy...it's a lot louder and Fulkerson than dsl

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Yeah 800 2203s are different full blown tube beasts than those two 😎💪.

[@dalejacksonmo]

@@EugeValovirta230V definitely if I could afford it I would get the Marshall Zakk Wylde 2230 I think

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Yeah it’s a great amp. Quite a bit cleaner than my other 800s but a bit more SD-1 into it works or putting Legendary Tones’ Mr. Scary Mod in there which just ”wakes the amp up” in a really juicy way 👌.

[@ShadovvV]

I think most of the crushing tones you get come from the chair you're siting on.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Absolutely.