How to Get IFR Clearance in a Private Jet - Tech Tuesday

Here is a short video of me requesting (and receiving) my IFR clearance for a short flight in out Hawker.
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[@BrentFreyEsq]

For anyone unfamiliar with a standard IFR clearance, it follows the CRAFT method (starting at 3:49): C = Cleared to = BUF (Buffalo Airport) R = Route = Radar vectors, HHOWE 3 departure, BROKK transition, DKK, BUF (destination) A = Altitude = 3000 feet initial, then FL250 10 mins after departure F = Frequency = 132.35 T = Transponder = 5163 The "Q830" route they were talking about beforehand is a published airway; think of it like an interstate with defined on- and off-ramps.

[@jeffr532]

Thanks Brent! Us non-aviators appreciate the insight.

[@peterawsome]

We use CRAFT+V at our Flight school, with the “V” standing for void time since we operate at a non-towered airport. (Basically how long you have to get off the ground and contact ARTCC). It can be as long as 15 minutes and as short as 3 minutes sometimes. Just a little additive to already good info :)

[@kodkid]

Agree with Jeff r This one was pretty over my head, but for some reason I still think it is cool. I like the analogy, that helps me understand better.

[@williegillie5712]

I guess they are saying you need to know your craft before flying IFR. Some of them waypoints get pretty long winded. Good thing they have you read it back. Thanks for exposing it small Shaun. A good tech tuesday

[@shawnprice9399]

Nice tech Tuesday. It would be cool to see a flash of the route filed vs the route that was given. Maybe next time? Love the videos keep up the cpl

[@dougf94912]

+1 for putting up a screenshot of the routing for clarity!

[@ritag.9078]

Hi Shaun. I live in Buffalo and our home is situated on the crosswinds flight path. On final approach l can actually stand on my backyard deck and wave. Would have flipped to have seen you flying in and for sure would have given you thumbs up. Safe flight always, Captain.

[@jimhal5553]

Although I never finished my private pilot's license, I understood all of that. Must have learned something after all.

[@niceguy2171]

A place I used to fly in and out of often years ago (Pontiac,MI) so that brought back a bit of deja vu. Hope to see some flight videos coming soon ;) and hope you and the family are having..and have a wonderful Holiday Season, along with anyone reading this.

[@dickmoore7341]

Good way to show us with a twist to make it very real what can happen when your getting it set up. Or what could go awry.....lol I don't know how cold it was that day for you but I live on the west side of Michigan straight across from where you were and the real feel tonight will be 2 degree's F.

[@annnonymous9791]

Your last post was just hilarious! ...can't help cracking up whenever I see your name now.

[@dickmoore7341]

@@annnonymous9791 So is it my name or my reply that makes you laugh? As long as your smiling tho ;-)

[@jeffr532]

Nice change of pace for the tech Tuesday Shaun. I would be interested in learning about the different types of approaches (VNAV, RNAV, ILS).

[@jimmykosko]

Are you doing ok... on vacation we haven’t heard from you...just concerned viewers

[@ArizonaCowboys]

He sounds like lars ulrich.... love you man !!!!!

[@relativeair]

funny you say that because to me he kinda looks a bit like him too and I thought a while ago he reminds me of Lars

[@timcrawley7184]

Hey Shaun. All ok? The channel has been quiet for a while.

[@dustinpruente1920]

That’s my home airfield. I’ve been flying from there since I was a small child. Nice to see you guys up here

[@Repented008]

Haven't seen you post this year, bud. We're missing you out here! Lol. Anyways, Happy new year, and godspeed. See you on the next vid, which I'm sure is coming soon.🎄🎆🎉🎉❤

[@alanlake1799]

hope everything is good with you------- wishing you and your family a happy holiday season

[@mikewhite2831]

It would be great to see a flight planning from beginning to the craft read back . I think non IFR folks would then understand where these crazy check point names come from .. great videos

[@ericlozen9631]

👍X's 2 ~ I made my first solo (Cessna 152) from KPTK in August of 1985 from runway 9L; I was 17. At the time ATIS was on 124.450.

[@mikedupree832]

Cool, I live near PTK and fly in and out of there. In your intro that caught my attention. Good flight. Glad to see places I know about

[@BenA-bu1cz]

Good to see u again.

[@alessio272]

Filling out that craft the old fashion way.

[@sethvalentine8240]

PTK is my home airport. Great controllers. Multiple flight schools and a very busy field and they do a great job. Usually we contact ground 121.9 for clearance not 118.25.

[@davidsteinberg3663]

Informative video! What I think would be even better is if you could put up a map on screen showing all of the IFR fixes being discussed and the actual route of the flight plan. That would help to visualize it, especially with the modified routing. Good stuff!

[@grumpygrandpa1371]

Oh man - y'll were right in my backyard today - would have been cool to come over to the airport and meet !!! I njoy the videos-next time if you know you will be parking at Pontiac give us fans here in the area a shout !!! Safe flying !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@ProPilotPete]

Enjoy the videos, looking thru the side window it looks like you’re in a shopping center! Keep them coming! Especially the tech Tuesday’s!

[@123twins7]

Thanks Shaun for this sweet video. As an aviation enthusiast (possible future pilot) this is much appreciated. As the kids get a little older it may be something to dive back into. Thanks again. Daniel

[@edlapinski341]

Thanks for taking me down Memory Lane either KHPN and KBDR!

[@nikimayster1]

hey.. i like a lot what you're doing.. and I would like to suggest a subject for a Tech Tuesday.. I am going along slowly with my PPL license, did my first solo flight, so that was huge progress.. and I tried filming it.. using just the gopro of my son.. no special audio recording setup.. I am looking to improve on that for my next flights.. so, how about you showing us one day how you do the recording, how you setup the cameras, the sound, maybe also how you do the editing later.. thanks again for the great work! :-)

[@OMG_No_Way]

nikimayster1 I was the same way when i started recording my flights. For the audio, get on Sportys website and buy the cable. It’s like $25-$35. Basically it’s a Y that plugs inline between your headset and the GoPro. Super super easy to set up.

[@notar187]

Good luck

[@MattyCrayon]

Good timing. I did my first navex into a controlled airport the other week (YPAD) and was reviewing how I got out of there, clearance etc, yesterday. Thanks for the review 👍🏻 🛩 Oh yeah, I recently posted my first aviation vid about an airshow for kids if you know anyone who’d like that 👍🏻

[@greggclark1]

Another great video. I love tech Tuesdays. Maybe take it one step further and show how you enter into the FMS. Sure, every FMS is different, but would be great to see you put a PDC into the FMS. Don't think you've covered that one in a tech Tuesday yet.

[@dancharnas6374]

Thanks Shaun. Another fine tech story. Would be fun to see how you notate this clearance on your iPad in real time. Pro pilots catch this fast-paced information so effortlessly it seems. Also, just a thought, would be cool to see the route you had anticipated and the route they provided. Can one insist on a specific routing? Thanks again.

[@ColdCanuck50]

Hell...you were fifteen minutes away from me, I'm south of Pontiac, MI (the State of disrepair lol)

[@caseyflint6815]

I loved the look on your face when you looked up and saw the camera falling! Keep up the good work!

[@rahmahmihat6570]

Good morning to pilot and good job

[@mostlyHandicapable]

Cool! I live a half hour from Pontiac! Thanks for the shoutout to Michigan!

[@jeffreyg3831]

Merry Christmas to you and your family Shaun! 🌲🎁🎁🌲

[@videopokernetwork6824]

Best Tech Tuesday of the Week!

[@lancegardner7486]

Dang man that's a nice jacket, looks very warm and comfortable.,

[@dustinpruente1920]

Lance Gardner it’s really cold up here in SE Michigan today. We’re at 25 F on the ground today

[@Pintuuuxo]

We always like the Tech Tuesday. :-) Thank you Shaun.

[@Jay-wc4yz]

That was a good one it was cool they had a reroute maybe not for you but for the video. Love tech Tuesdays

[@oldschoolnomad813]

Most of the IFR clearances I have heard the controller very rarely do they spell out the fixes so that one was kinda different.

[@extremereclusefallows5779]

Pontiac has a lot of business jet traffic. The final approach transmitter is 1/4 mile from my house. The aircraft are 800 AGL going over my home. I get to see so many types to include four engine turboprop cargo transports and helicopters. Pontiac is one of the poorest cities in America. It just got out of bankruptcy. They lost their police department which is county run now. Oakland county is of the wealthiest in the country. Pontiac and Flint were magnet cities during the 50s, 60s and 70s. If you wanted a good paying job this was the place. Now, you could not intice any business to move here. An absolute ghost town. Bars are the only businesses that thrive here.

[@davidharris2519]

Sean just curious is everything okay haven't heard anything from you in over a month hope all is well and miss all the videos

[@ericsprague4273]

This was great! I was wondering if you could show someday how you would setup a flight plan. Maybe you could do it right on your tablet or home computer as example.

[@slipman]

More info on radio protocols in particular HF on Oceanic routes and VHF of Over land routes (one assumes) would be interesting.

[@dr.jeffpanozzo1180]

Very nice

[@m1lk_n_c0oki3s2]

Hey KPTK! There’s where I got my private, the controllers there are so nice!

[@mkDCguy]

New subscriber! Absolutely awesome vlogs and thank you for providing such detailed and helpful aviation information for us novices!

[@XX-166]

Thanks that was cool.. looking for more of that.

[@daveneely8692]

Now I want to know what the mount is! I would personally like to see how the digital end of that works one day, maybe as a short bonus to a tech vid. Again, thanks for the awesome stuff

[@OMG_No_Way]

LOVE IT. More please.

[@bruschi8148]

Dude creepin in the background.....lol

[@TheMerryPup]

My guess is either that's 1) the co-pilot or 2) a very confident stowaway 🙃

[@parker73711]

well done on the bleeping (so to speak) call sign!!

[@larrymayberry2312]

Hopefully they will give us what we already have or something close to it...you jinxed yourself LOL

[@rikspector]

Thanks Shaun, That made everything clear.. as mud:) I really got it... Cheers, Rik Spector

[@SmittySmithsonite]

Thanks, Shaun! 👍🍻

[@davidhearrell5598]

Shawn, great videos. Love that jacket. Where did you get it?

[@johncurtis909]

Hi Shaun, I've just subscribed to your most inspirational and informative channel and I thank you. I'm from the UK and 63 yrs old. I'm a driving instructor (car). I never thought for one minute I could ever be able to ask a serious question about safety, regarding pilots. So, here goes. Is there no requirements regarding head restraints on pilots seats. It's just that I noticed there were none on this plane but all other aircraft KZbin channels pilots aircraft have them. I'm pretty sure your followers and family want you to be safe and keep us informed as you so professionally do. JC

[@patrickmorrissey8754]

Look....you do these TechTuesdays and I appreciate the time and effort you put into the, but, it would have been better if you showed the route on Foreflight. I really want to see how the automated clearance is obtained obtained. Patrick ...from Albuquerque

[@Mark-zc3mx]

I didn't hear the collision alarm when the camera fell....

[@billnicholson2470]

The other guy in the video? Was he a passenger or the co-pilot? Also just curious does Alerion have any female pilots? Nice video Shaun. Thanks

[@bts650]

He's the co-pilot (if Shaun stays in the left seat:)

[@donc9751]

Interesting that whoever that was sitting in the plane just past the entrance door got up to hang some clothes up on a hanger in the closet behind the cockpit caused the plane to move just enough to tumble the video cam over. Not sure if he was a passenger, or your copilot just chilling out in back while you do your video thing, I'm thinking not a pilot from the way he was looking towards the cockpit like hes checking it out like I would as a non pilot. Happy flying Shaun!!!

[@zoozolplexOne]

cool !!

[@davidmaltz5697]

Question: The ATIS said to call ground on 121.9 for clearance. If you call on the published clearance frequency instead, will you normally still get through to the ground controller?

[@chadpollman7970]

You’ll get whoever is providing clearance delivery. Just so happened the ground controller was working both roles/frequencies at the time (a common practice when workloads are light enough).

[@ashdownnazarene]

I would like to see how to create a flight plan?

[@KH-dz9nk]

You should fly to Eppley Airfield ( KOMA)

[@aileron48]

haha I always thought that G.A. got the difficult routing, and corporate got priority routing, then again I'm in SoCal. "Could you give that to me again 100 times or once, more slowly, please?"

[@briancraigkennedy3153]

Sup Stefan!!! Shaun- don't look so serious!

[@govbradford]

That was cool!

[@stevek8099]

What's squawk?

[@cfletch2racing938]

After filing the IFR flight plan do you have to give an estimated time of departure or can you depart when you want

[@vonw.3294]

You try to be wheels up at the time you scheduled your departure when you filed your IFR flight plan. There is a thing called Clearance Void Time. This is when ATC expects you to be airborne by that time. So if you are not able or choose not to depart by the Void time you have to contact ATC within 30 Mins, If you don't then they will dispatch search and rescue operations.

[@dijbee]

Great to hear you have problems just like us little guys. Nice to know we're all humans and have to watch everything. Curious, do you guys practice complete electronic failure in the air? My instructors have always made sure we're aware of our position and be able to fly VFR if there is a failure. I image it's much much harder in a machine going 500 mph but it might happen. What's the procedure?

[@edpippin]

Not answering your question directly but there was a video where a Citation medical flight lost both engines out of Florida due to a weird incident where the Jet Fuel tech but a diesel additive into the Jet fuel by accident and the plane loDt both engines and thus some instrumentation and ended up gliding to an emergency landing in Savannah Ga. They reenacted the incident sort of and went through the processes they followed to get safely down.

[@notar187]

Great videos ,have any videos of you going into a holding pattern?

[@robertg5393]

Love your jacket - where can I get one (!).

[@equaltothetaskaviation6440]

gday mate, cool love tech tuesday

[@danielmeans4498]

Are you going to Sun and Fun? if so do you know what day? Keep the tech videos coming

[@Freddy735]

Bummer could have recommended a couple of places to eat, layover permitting.

[@timpearn9383]

I'm a small plane pilot and was always curious how much fuel you burn on the ground during startup and taxi. I remember being told you burn as much on the ground as you do at altitude in a jet but that sounds far fetched.

[@isaiahanthony713]

Why didn’t you pick up clearance on 121.9 like the atis info said?

[@chadpollman7970]

Not sure whether he did that on purpose. Had I done it, it would have been because I missed that remark in the ATIS and just went with the clearance frequency shown on the plate. Happily, the ground controller didn’t make any fuss about it (nice guy!). 😎

[@OMG_No_Way]

isaiah Anthony If you listen, ATIS said contact Ground on xxx.xx. He might have used a different frequency, but Ground still answered.

[@markmcdaniel3975]

Didnt CD say dunkirk vor, there is no vor at dunkirk, what am I missing?

[@lkm5462]

How do you write that down so quickly? Lot of info

[@chadpollman7970]

Shorthand, familiarity with the format, good anticipation (having a fair idea of what to expect), and lots of practice.

[@Sokeresa]

Shorthand mate. There IS a follow. I think is called CRAFT. It's like a waiter talking your food order Haha. You don't need to write everything, just the identifiers of fixes/vor departures, and altitudes. After a while it kinda becomes a second nature since the format is ALWAYS THE SAME, kinda like food, first appetizers, then entrees, and lastly desert. Hope that makes sense

[@mouscj3]

Great Video... One thing i have always wondered is how you are able to capture/record for your videos you post, all headset communications from Pilot to CoPilot or Aircraft to ATC, or Aircraft to Ground... With having multiple cameras setup in the cockpit, do you connect one to the onboard Comm Systems or connect some type of audio recording device to the Comm Systems??? And if so, what do you use and how do you use it... Have a Great Day an... Thanx for sharing...

[@Captain_Al_320]

Is it not a requirement for both pilots to listen to the departure clearance? If not do you think it would be a good threat mitigation strategy?

[@TheRipper5418]

Neat Video. And Nice Looking Jacket. Can you say where you bought it at?

[@grandpa1687]

Shaun; two weeks? Are you ok?

[@attackspeed9]

Him, I would ask dispatch about that routing. Sounded weird to me.

[@donball7896]

I wish all the controllers talked that slow and spelled everything out

[@johnfarr2738]

Don Ball the controller sounded like he’s been smokin up a bit

[@FBCStuttgart]

No kidding. I had a guy ar Razorback control the other day that sounded like an auctioneer.

[@micahgreene4573]

But don't most controllers slow down a bit when issuing clearance? Knowing the pilot is writing and has to read it back?

[@donball7896]

No, most talk fast so they get to the next person

[@Hedgeflexlfz]

I'll be starting my instrument rating soon, any advise?

[@mostlyHandicapable]

Hit the books and practice practice practice!

[@percyolson3069]

Not sure how comfortable you are with the radio, but listen to LiveATC.net and practice reading back ATC instructions. Made me a much better radio guy when I did my IFR.

[@Hedgeflexlfz]

@@percyolson3069 good idea

[@NeedALift766]

I envision instrument flying like a Venn diagram with three realms; attitude flying, infrastructure, and the human factor. Infrastructure is a loose category that includes everything from the paint patterns on the runway, GPS system, and then paper charts and the FAR/AIM. These are ground school topics you should master before you start flying. It all falls into place, but could be overwhelming when you try to give full attention to all three realms at once.

[@111477cheech]

You still flying? Where you’ve been?

[@fed8925]

After you receive this information, how do you enter in such information into the FDC? I'm not sure if you have a video on this already, clear skies.

[@Luzermeisels]

1) Tnx for your awesome content you’re doing a phenomenal job 2) given the fact that you can’t share with us the callsign then what’s about the passenger that we see more to the end of the video I Bruin the callsign is confidential then probably the passengers as well correct? I’m not trying to mock you down I’m just trying to understand and in case I’m ignorant then sorry for my ignorance

[@Yjdrake]

Lazer Meisels that might have been the other pilot - or cabin crew - realising what he was doing and just letting him do his thing. There is zero chance Shaun would show a pilot.

[@bigd-1-channel514]

Souds typical I hate those PDC where they old you to a certian time release

[@UnBoxItwithMaureen]

I have a question.....I am not a pilot just a lover of aviation and your channel. When looking up at the planes flying over my home (live near an exec airport and an airport) do the lights that we see on the plane have any significance i.e. green and red blinking lights.

[@peteralberti]

Yup. The red position light is on the left wingtip and the green one is on the right wingtip. There is also a beacon light on the tail. They don't blink - they are solid. These allow other planes to determine the direction you're heading for see-and-avoid. There are also other lights (anti-collision strobes, landing/taxi lights, etc.) and they all have a specific purpose. In fact, the Federal Aviation Regulations (or FAR's) specify which lights must be used for different situations. Hope this helps.

[@UnBoxItwithMaureen]

@@peteralberti thank you so much....I knew they had to mean specific things and now when I see a plane coming in for landings over head I will know. Much appreciated!

[@Parker-di7ef]

How early can you pick this up? When I was doing my instrument training we always picked up the clearance after engine start. I’ve always known jet pilots get the clearance before start, just didn’t know if there were rules for it.

[@TreetopFlyer1116]

Parker B you can pick up a clearance 30 min before and up to 2 hours after you filed departure time.

[@johnreiten6473]

What is that black coat you are wearing? I like it!

[@Searider76]

Do you plan and file your flightplan or does the company dispatcher do it for you? If you do it all, when and how do you actually file the plan with ATC?

[@jerrymullen9661]

New pilot might have had a meltdown!

[@nedy08]

How soon do you pick up your clearance before starting the engines? I'm assuming you're either on a GPU or maybe the APU was already running if you knew you'd be ready to roll soon after?

[@falopio67]

in wich cases can you to vfr then ask for clearance on the air to expedite getting quick of airport

[@vonw.3294]

Hey your near me!

[@notar187]

As a vfr pilot only, and a aviation enthusiast, where am I more likely to see aircraft go into a hold on flight radar sights ?

[@dayp87]

You could have watched down in the Caribbean over the last few days. TNCM/SXM has had quite a bit of traffic lately. Anywhere where the weather is poor might lead to holds.

[@Glenn7915]

I have same question how long is clearance good for? Do you need to depart in so many minutes after getting ifr clearance?

[@doctwiggenberry5324]

What is the BRACK transition?