How to Get the Right Axle Size for Your Honda- AXLE TECH

Swap Axle Length: Don’t lose time to busted axles!
By Brian Gillespie
So, you have your swap all buttoned up and you’re ready to kill the game at your local meet, track event or just drive thru. You’ve cleared all your engine codes and it sounds bad ass. You let off the clutch and start to pull away. It feels good, really good. So, you really hit the throttle to let it really sing. Then tragedy strikes and you’re going nowhere fast with axle grease coating random parts and worse case scenario, bashed parts smacked by a free spinning axle shaft. So, you are stuck asking yourself, “WTF just happened?”
We know what most likely happened, your axle wasn’t the right size. Carter and I are here to spread the knowledge so you can diagnose axle issues related to the length of your axle and check them for proper length.
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[@Steve_S419]

With Brian’s knowledge and all the supporting cast vtec academy should have all Honda enthusiasts subscribed to the channel and showing their support for all the work they put in for the good of the community Keep it going guys and stay safe

[@geoffw1372]

It'd be great if you had a library of axle lengths and specs on the hasport site too. Stop the Internet lies from a truthful source

[@mattliston1215]

By far one of the handiest things to learn about when doing swaps. Thank you! This will make my K24 Insight project far easier to verify and tidy up prior to initial drive.

[@AC-bf9dq]

Keep schooling me. I like the new video series, keep’em coming.

[@makehondagreatagain6357]

Great Video Brian, Thanks for all that you do!

[@tantanracing2361]

GOOD THING I got my Hasport Axel’s don’t have to worry about anything they pretty damn beefy too💪🏻💪🏻

[@Busydadgarage717]

You just saved me a huge amount of wonder and heartache. The DA I have separated 5 reman axles for previous owner. Suspension was maxed low and bearing was trashed. Now I can measure before I drive it to make sure my replacement parts solved this problem.....THANK YOU!

[@marcobanuelos408]

What axels u get

[@Busydadgarage717]

@Marco Banuelos I ended up using stock axles. The issue I actually had was the previous owner slide into a curb. The suspension components were all replaced, but the motor and trans were pushed 3/4" towards the passenger side. I ended up having to fabricate and weld in plates on the chassis mount locations to move engine and tans back to stock location. That fixed my problem. Car has not blown an axle since.

[@theedge5584]

Another gret video....thanks keep em comin...Much love to all

[@ariesr4883]

Wish I knew this back in the day when I bought the first EK HaSport mount kit, axles, and dc sport header package before the EKK1 back in 08. Great info to pass on guys!! Btw HaSport hybrid axles lasted til the end of 2018 :) even with that horrible axle angle lol. Still got that all glass intake pipe? Keep up the good work and love that you share your knowledge to everyone!!!

[@m.b3995]

Thanks very useful info 👍🏼. I had this issue with my crx swap k24 the axle came out like this dud axles and mount both from hasport and it happend. I replace the inner joint with h22 axle I hope it works fine to the end

[@elcesarnavarro]

Great timing, been struggling with axles for my k24 ej2 👌

[@VTECAcademy]

Cesar N we made this just for you. 👍🏽

[@jamzempire]

sooo what axles did you end up using?

[@elcesarnavarro]

@@jamzempire for passenger side, ep3 and not sure about driver side since i bought it from someone that didn't know but just told me it was for k swap but its a little too long so when the suspension compresses, it vibrates pretty bad 😕

[@jameshaulenbeek5931]

Very good information! When I first replaced the axles in my EF, I wound up getting a pair with smaller diameter spline shafts. I didn't realize it at a glance. Once I tried driving though... that nut loosened up fast! (Luckily I was in a safe area - private property, no traffic) It was an important lesson to learn. Oh, and the computer system at the parts store had them labeled as "standard" and "accept standard" 🤷‍♂️?

[@paul06660]

Looking forward to buying my k swap mounts from you guys once the stimulus comes in. Hasport is a true American company that deserves to stick around once the pandemic is overwith.

[@pFbSpecV]

I have experienced this with my k swapped integra!! Bearing busted but so far I have luck with the autozone axle.

[@ocean8930]

Thanks!

[@B.E.R.T.]

I'm experiencing what you stated about violent steering wheel jerking to the left in direct relation to wheel rotation. Along with a clicking noise when turning right. I have a 91 Honda crx with a JDM D15B 3 stage vtec swap from a 98 civic ferio. I unfortunately lost the list and part numbers we used for the swap.... Let the fun begin

[@garettmalate7015]

Great content as usual! Definitely handy for the k swap I'm doing for my CRX. With that said - do the stock axles from an 02 RSX Type-s have an acceptable length to use in a CRX once the k motor is in?? I planned on getting new hasport axles but might need to save some budget and wondered if I can use what I have from my type-s; the axles are still in great shape. Figured I'd ask the experts but I can check too based on this video ;) Stay safe and keep doing what you do!

[@BrianGillespie_brianathasport]

The Type S axels have too large an outer joint for the CRX unless you use the Karcepts 36mm hubs. As for being the correct length, I haven't tried those so I can't say for sure.

[@Jstn190]

sweet crx in the background

[@BrianGillespie_brianathasport]

That's actually my EF hatch with SiR front end. Video coming soon. Look for project Backmarker.

[@shionnsr8684]

Goat Gems thank you but I'm going hasport anyways so I'm not worried about measuring ;)

[@mercedescherokee6853]

I swapped in reman axles from drivetech and developed horrible vibrations when accelerating or braking, very difficult to diagnose where it was coming from, oem, rebuilt oem, or reputible aftermarket are worth it!!

[@BrianGillespie_brianathasport]

A bad vibrations is usually an axle that is too long.

[@Novablendz602]

Question do B series axle fit stock eg hatchback hub assembly or I need the one for that swap.

[@Shaferziroc]

Everyone says swapping k into a 5th gen prelude you goto run tax axle . But they are to long the half shaft binds with a 6 speed

[@jdmnuggets]

Absolute bloody legends! Hopefully my rd5 axels are going to work in my rd1 kswap. You should do a video on swaping b series outer cv with abs ring to a k outer. Or transferring an abs ring. How to retain abs , Cheers ❤🍻

[@michaelfermin1030]

I'm new to honda swaps, what axles to use for a gen2 kswap? Is there a company that makes one?

[@user-bu6xj7xi6x]

I have axel problem I'm making my own j32a2 axels 32mm foe My ek but can seem to get the j32 axel bearings on any other axel shaft other then rsx shaft

[@cstcomputers]

I wish I had seen this video before I tore my cv axel out for the second time because it was vibrating like crazy. It's for an 05 Honda accord hybrid 3.0L V6 and I ordered it from e-bay because I broke a lower ball joint and it tore the original one out and ruined it. (whoops), after researching numerous sites I found that the overall compressed length for stock axels should be 22 and 4/5ths but the one I got from eBay was and is 24". So too long was a problem and I ordered another. It would have been nice to know that in vehicle measuring trick... I will know when the new one gets here this week... Not sure how someone can send a "New" CV Axel for an 05 Honda accord hybrid and send one that is over an inch too long???

[@NZLOWCRX]

Hi Brian! Love your videos, but I stuck atm, rsx basemodel axel on 1st gen crx is too long, hasport and insane shaft has nothing available, any tip?

[@VTECAcademy]

We have axles. Just email [e-mail].

[@luistech1000]

Best axle for ekk1 mount ?

[@corn4854]

Dang live stream ended I think brian said rsx base axles will work with the tsx trans, also will I need to use a tsx or rsx cables i already have a ktuned shifter but no cables yet

[@BrianGillespie_brianathasport]

You need the K-Tuned shifter for TSX and Accord. Then the TSX or Accord cables work. For the axles, anything that works with the RSX engine in your car will work as long as you have RSX manual or 02-11 Civic intermediate shaft. If you use the TSX intermediate shaft get the Hasport axle for that swap. And it has usually been my experience that one of the base RSX axles is on the short side.

[@punkaddic]

Your axles are the right length but your wheels studs aren't ;) Good info Brian !!

[@bobbydelamar606]

So for a budget 1989 CRX with a K24A2, what axle to I need (hubs are factory)? I bought new base axles but also don't have the intermediate shaft. Which intermediate shaft do I need, cause I heard the carrier has different mounting brackets? And where can I get one?

[@VTECAcademy]

According to the internet, you should be able to use the RSX base axles. You will need an intermediate shaft from an manual transmission RSX or 2002-2011 Civic Si.

[@god084]

Now someone needs to make an axle that can handle Motorsport applications

[@thehaloguy9381]

Great info brian! what rotors are on that civic? i bought that same wilwood brake kit for my wifes 89 crx and the disk seems to be about 3mm to far inboard and hits the caliper any advise?

[@BrianGillespie_brianathasport]

The rotors that came with the FastBrakes kit. 11 inches in diameter according to Brian at FastBrakes,

[@TheWarrenWalker]

I know with OEM brake upgrades on an EF, there needs to be a spacer between the hub and brake disc. Sounds like this would solve your issue too.

[@thehaloguy9381]

@@TheWarrenWalker that had crossed my mind, i was hoping that wasn't the norm because that would put my tires closer to fender rub and i like the way its sitting right now on the coilovers. thanks for the .02

[@Kevin-zo6nz]

@@thehaloguy9381 you can mill 3mm from the 2 caliper bracket flange surfaces, there are shops that specialize in this service for Hondas, but any local small machine shop will do it, very well documented mod for OEM brake upgrades on the EF. I have it done on my crx to run ITR calipers and didn't want to run a spacer . $50 problem solved. Cheers

[@cartergillespie5942]

That is actually the 11.75 STL big brake kit from fastbrakes. It fits under only a few 15” wheels.

[@astutenomad2879]

K24Z7 9th gen 6 speed swap in 88 CRX with DA hubs, what axles might work? Any OEM solutions?

[@VTECAcademy]

Base RSX supposedly.

[@astutenomad2879]

@@VTECAcademy that's exactly what my research tells me as well. I'm going to give it a shot. Thank you!

[@xAKALISx]

Definitely learned something new. However, for the few swapping into a non Honda chassis with a Honda engine and trans: (FWD) what about measuring for a custom one?

[@BrianGillespie_brianathasport]

Start with any axle that sort of fits and then measure to see what needs to change. Then you can start with the compressed axle length and ask you axle builder to make one longer or shorter per your measurement

[@marvinreyes6270]

How many mm the clearance the right size axle

[@VTECAcademy]

A quarter inch is about 6.5MM

[@DELREYGUY]

Not me. Had 2 sets of Honda Accord 94-97 Level 0 "Drive Shaft Shop" axles, on stock VTEC 2.2L motor manual trans 5 speed (EX Coupe). Both failed on inner CV joints. City driving in LA. just 6 month's life. Might as well get remans for $50 each that last longer. Over hyped on DSS, RAXLES, Insane Shafts.. Used original Honda axles are better...! Or reman cores.

[@VTECAcademy]

Remans usually work well.

[@MariaTorres-hp6wx]

Hey I just put two axles cuz they keep breaking I got a b20 in my 97 Honda Civic and I put on axle from a 98 Acura Integra u think that one's shorter

[@BrianGillespie_brianathasport]

The 94-01 Integra axles are all the same length and are the correct size for a B swapped 96-00 Civic as well as a 92-95 Civic.

[@MariaTorres-hp6wx]

@@BrianGillespie_brianathasport o ok so why u think the keep breaking

[@BrianGillespie_brianathasport]

@@MariaTorres-hp6wx Are they OE Honda or aftermarket?

[@MariaTorres-hp6wx]

@@BrianGillespie_brianathasport oe

[@lamontwolverton8959]

Great info, thanks, but "no level" :)

[@justinguarino201]

My DS Axel was going out (started slinging grease). I replaced the axle, but once I started driving (it still drives fine) I noticed this sort of screeching noise (a noise similar to bad breaks). Any ideas on what it could be causing the dreadful noise? It occurs on both straight driving and turns.

[@BrianGillespie_brianathasport]

Screeching isn't usually associated with axles. I suggest jacking up the car front of the car and putting the wheels in the air so you can run the car in gear and sweep the wheels right and left to see if you can recreate the noise. Make user you use jack stands to secure the car and don't let anyone stand in front of the car while you are doing this.

[@na93prepre]

I spy another Prelude being worked on. Hopefully, this means some of us Prelude guys can get questions answered during the live-sessions.

[@IllusionsSecret]

@VTEC Academy, can i use the EP3 type R axles for my EG civic with B16/B18 outers? Best regards from germany.

[@BrianGillespie_brianathasport]

Will the B16 outers go on that shaft? If they do, try them out and measure them using the above technique. It's usually been my experience one of the axles is slightly too short.

[@IllusionsSecret]

@@BrianGillespie_brianathasport Thanks for the quick reply, I will try to find out.

[@EJ2BSeries]

Ja kannst du.

[@99Lezard99]

müssen glaube ich nur von links nach rechts getauscht werden? bin nicht ganz sicher 🤔

[@joshuayammer1994]

That 4th gen on the lift thooooo