How To Get Whole Home Backup Power For Under $1000

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@k.b.tidwell
@k.b.tidwell 10 ай бұрын
The best thing about my generator setup which is functionally the same as yours is that it is MAGICAL. Most of the times I've used it, right after selectively shutting off the water heater (I'm all-electric), dragging out the generator, connecting the cable, getting things cranked up...wait, I need to fill the tank completely up first to get maximum runtime, and usually all of this is in a downpour, and finally switching over the breakers, the MAGIC happens and line power immediately comes back on. It's turned into a meme in my family. "Dad! Get the generator out so the power will come back on!"
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy 10 ай бұрын
🤣 that’s awesome
@jahnkaplank8626
@jahnkaplank8626 10 ай бұрын
what's taking you so long!! lol
@Dav5049915
@Dav5049915 10 ай бұрын
I've steered hurricanes away from my house with my generator. Might've lost power for a total of 15 minutes over the last 5 years after buying my generator.
@jafo4u508
@jafo4u508 10 ай бұрын
That is hilarious!😂 never heard that one before.
@Freight_Train
@Freight_Train 10 ай бұрын
I hear you. After rigging a series of hidden heavy duty extension cords to various parts of the house to use my generator, our first power outage lasted 15 minutes. I was so disappointed the power came back on and I wasn't able to really test the whole system.
@TroyStevensStelzerPaintingInc
@TroyStevensStelzerPaintingInc 4 ай бұрын
Your vids are absolute gold for us average dudes who just need some guidance. Thank you for all your contributions.
@HeritageWealthPlanning
@HeritageWealthPlanning 10 ай бұрын
This guy crushes! Don't know half of what he's talking about but man it's cool to see dudes who know what they're doing.
@mfb6310
@mfb6310 3 ай бұрын
Oh me neither!! Still gives one hope, though!! Especially if my one remaining brain cell makes an appearance at the same time I'm watching!
@user-tk1ec1hd4e
@user-tk1ec1hd4e 14 күн бұрын
Haha i was thinking the same. Cool to watch but I will hire a guy to do this for me
@shenmisheshou7002
@shenmisheshou7002 10 ай бұрын
I live in Texas and after the big freeze 2.5 years ago that killed about 600 people, I decided to put in a generator inlet and interlock kit after that because I never wanted to be near freezing to deay again. I went with an inverter generator, which is much quieter and much more fuel efficient (though if you are running on NG, that is not so important), and while my generator is not big enough to run the AC even with a soft start kit, most of our extended power outages are in the winter and spring where keeping central heat is more important than AC. This past winter we were out of power for 3.5 days and I was one of the only people in the entire area that had power. My inverter generator is 5000 watts continuous, and this was more than enough to run everything in the home with the rare exception that I could not run both the microwave and toaster at the same time (we have a full fridge, mini fridge, and small chest freezer, and all of these were kept running as well.) It worked so well that five of my neighbors decided to put in 5000 watt generators with an inlet and interlock. They know they may never need them, but they now have the ability to keep their families worm for days at a time if the power is ever out again. If I lived where there were hurricanes, I would probably go with a standard backup generator, but for these 3-4 day outages, the interlock setup is fantastic.
@SaltySouthTexan
@SaltySouthTexan 10 ай бұрын
Killed 600 people? In TEXAS? I went through the SAME freeze and didn’t hear of no 600 people dying. Unless you mean nationwide? Texas lost 28 people according to Tx officials
@Emmilythecat
@Emmilythecat 10 ай бұрын
I bought one of these from Costco 3 years ago. Ran it on propane the whole time. Had to run extension cords. I do not have the generator inlet box yet or a natural gas outlet yet. It is one of my goals to install soon. When we had our hard freeze, we were able to run medical devices and keep our fridge going. Very happy with our generator.
@lancet3767
@lancet3767 10 ай бұрын
Do you have a video on splicing and replacing a bad or worn low-voltage wire on the outside unit?
@Moondoggy1941
@Moondoggy1941 10 ай бұрын
How far is the gas generator from the gas meter?
@suespony
@suespony 10 ай бұрын
How many amps draw is the Mr cool? Is the amp draw different in the Mr cool heat mode vs the cooling mode?
@caddothegreat
@caddothegreat 9 ай бұрын
What was the size of generator ? How long did it run on a propane bottle before refill ?
@Emmilythecat
@Emmilythecat 9 ай бұрын
@@caddothegreat 7500W from Firman. I could run it for at least 8 hours on a 5 lb tank.
@benkanobe7500
@benkanobe7500 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for always answering the question we DIY guys (and gals) don't know to ask. You are always just one or more steps ahead.
@danpeppers5564
@danpeppers5564 9 ай бұрын
very impressed with your whole set up and your explanation of how it works and how to set it up was very clear and easy to follow, great vid! i didn't even know they had QD for natural gas!
@billballoo7881
@billballoo7881 10 ай бұрын
I wish this guy lived in GA, I'd hire him in a heartbeat
@jeepguylv80
@jeepguylv80 10 ай бұрын
I love that generator, I have the previous version I bought a few years ago (gas and propane dual fuel) for $600, it gets more use in my business then it does at home but I haven't found anything it won't power as of yet. was looking at upgrading to this one because of natural gas, not having to fill up gas or replace propane bottles. been wanting to put this system together, thanks for showing us.
@MD.ImNoScientician
@MD.ImNoScientician 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video. It is exactly what I needed to see in addition to the Soft Start and Power Surge videos. We just bought a small house in Central TX where power outages are the norm in Summer and in Winter.
@Nolaman70
@Nolaman70 10 ай бұрын
My 4 ton went from inrush of 120 Amps to 40 Amps for reference. I have a similar setup but don't run my Central A/C with my portable generator. It does run my entire inside breaker box. I do not have a main breaker or shutoff on the outside box, pulling the meter is the only way to disconnect power to the main outside box. I just shut off the inside box, outside, then run the inside box from the generator. My Central AC is on the outside box. Works great for me as I can run everything except Central, Oven, Hot Tub.
@Jury.13
@Jury.13 10 ай бұрын
New subscriber here! Thank you for your willingness to share your knowledge. I am a trades instructor for one of our local colleges. Not for the money but because I feel there is a real need to pass on what we were fortunate to have others teach us. Thank you and I love you “down to earth” methods!
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy 10 ай бұрын
Thanks man! That means a lot to me
@tedhardulak7698
@tedhardulak7698 10 ай бұрын
I am so glad you choose to do this. This "Old Timer' have a lot of knowledge we can share with the youngins . I would love to be able to pass on what I have learned over 50 yrs. Running a business. Also. Learning the People part. Not much I cant fix. Especially small engine stuff. Blessings to you and your students. I so Pray that some can learn the satisfaction that comes with a hard days work and seeing what you did that day.
@tedhardulak7698
@tedhardulak7698 10 ай бұрын
Oh and I looked at a your web site. I 100% agree about getting rid of Qualified immunity.
@jimdandy6452
@jimdandy6452 9 ай бұрын
​@@diyhvacguyHow long can you run that generator without stopping?
@gaylanbishop1641
@gaylanbishop1641 10 ай бұрын
Great job. I applaud your willingness to do a video like this. Engineers and electricians are a bunch of know-it-alls so you will definitely get tons of nitpicking.
@fearlessfreep
@fearlessfreep 10 ай бұрын
Living in Austin, TX. The past two winters have produced storms that knocked out our power for days. I invested in this generator (bought for $600) and a shed to store it in. We've had to break it out once since then, but by the time my son and I got everything hooked up and running the juice returned (of course). At the end of summer we have a pool being installed and I'm going to include running an inlet box to the main panel when the electric is installed for the pool.
@barrios1100
@barrios1100 9 ай бұрын
Awesome vid ! Setting this up here in Texas. The last few years have been brutal on both extremes hot and cold.
@harleyrdr1
@harleyrdr1 10 ай бұрын
“68”? Holy crap! I live in Phoenix and I have my Ecobee set for 82! 🤣
@chrisdeanndavison3626
@chrisdeanndavison3626 10 ай бұрын
I have virtually the exact same setup. AC soft start and a Firman Tri-Fuel. I opted for their 10kW (when running on gasoline) generator because I have 2 older refrigerators and 2 older deep freezes as well. I've never had to use it, but in testing, it will run my entire house. While using a portable generator is a little bit of work to get the power back on, the generator is not limited to backup power only. I can use it for other purposes.
@GaryScruggsElectric
@GaryScruggsElectric 10 ай бұрын
Good video and info. I’ve done 4 50 amp generator back up hook ups with the manual transfer switch. I’ve ran it on my house. I haven’t installed any of the soft starts but I may look into that.
@masterlee4370
@masterlee4370 10 ай бұрын
If you were in south Louisiana where Hurricane Ida kept us out of power for 3 weeks you would never run out of work. I would hire you in a heartbeat. "The Cajun Ninja's Dad"
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy 10 ай бұрын
Thanks man!
@DaPlainTruth1
@DaPlainTruth1 9 ай бұрын
Anywhere down South...guy could get rich in no time!!!
@DaPlainTruth1
@DaPlainTruth1 9 ай бұрын
Live in South Alabama my box is on the outside as well. House was built in 06. Never had any problems or concerns with the elements and we get all types of CRAZY WEATHER!!!
@Bassguitarist1985
@Bassguitarist1985 10 ай бұрын
One thing to note with soft start devices, they lower the inrush current at startup. THEY DO NOT LOWER THE RUN CURRENT OF AN AC COMPRESSOR. Soft start devices do not save your money (in reality its very negligible) in electricity bill costs, but they greatly save your compressors life span minimizing wear and tear since it's not hard starting with a partially for fully locked rotor from the pressures inside. Great video!
@Watchyn_Yarwood
@Watchyn_Yarwood 10 ай бұрын
👍
@Jeremy-vb6tv
@Jeremy-vb6tv 10 ай бұрын
just curious, if soft start is beneficial that way, why don't the AC units come from the factory that way?
@Bassguitarist1985
@Bassguitarist1985 10 ай бұрын
@@Jeremy-vb6tv more complexity, added cost, manufacturers want to sell units and given this is about a $400 upgrade USD not many would opt to do it unless it was absolutely necessary.
@greggpurviance7252
@greggpurviance7252 10 ай бұрын
Note: most modern units have time outs that generally keep compressors from starting with a pressure lock. Soft start units do reduce start amps, so batteries or generstor can start the unit
@Bassguitarist1985
@Bassguitarist1985 10 ай бұрын
@@greggpurviance7252 yes, a time delay on relay. I have a variable one 2-10min delay for my outside compressor.
@eastmanresearch3143
@eastmanresearch3143 8 ай бұрын
this is a perfect setup for anyone living in the city on city water where you don't need a well pump. Otherwise you'll need a much larger generac LP/NG setup. Thanks for showing it. Very versatile.
@TheStevedie
@TheStevedie 3 ай бұрын
I have a 315 foot deep well and run my wellpump on a 6250 running watt generator. I can run it even while the electric (heat pump though) water heater is on along with the refrigerator and backup freezer. I usually turn those off while showering just so we don't over tax it.
@PincheDante69
@PincheDante69 9 ай бұрын
Simple good to know info. No crazy intros. Subscribed
@auxpowerunit
@auxpowerunit 8 ай бұрын
Incredible coincidence, that I have the same generator, power inlet, and gas quick-connects that you have. (I even used to have a Goodman AC). I've only tested my generator with our mini-split AC because we spend most time in that room. But thanks for telling us about soft-start devices, because I think I'll need one for our other AC.
@hdcsp3
@hdcsp3 10 ай бұрын
Bro. That is a bada** setup. Literally all you need. Once past the initial cost I'd say it pays for itself within the first couple times of use. Maybe even after the first time from a peace of mind type scenario. In gonna price it all out and see what's what. Good clip
@jsp7205
@jsp7205 8 ай бұрын
Had a small generator and it didn't have enough power (5500) to run several appliances or my AC. I bought a bigger (13000) LP and need to upgrade the transfer box. Your video was informative,thanks.
@johnhansen8272
@johnhansen8272 8 ай бұрын
This is a great idea, I wish I knew about this before my own budget whole home generator build. Fortunately for me, my generator runs my home including ac without this great device but I wasn’t sure until last week. I still may upgrade so thanks again
@ahent1975
@ahent1975 10 ай бұрын
Please remember all generators are not created equal and to run electronics it is safest to have one with a Total Harmonic Distortion (THD) of less than 6% or it can ruin computers, DVD players, and other sensitive electronics.
@TrungNguyen-jf2sg
@TrungNguyen-jf2sg 10 ай бұрын
Yup that’s true. The only generator I can find out there that is 3% THD is a Westinghouse IGEN 4500DF but it’s only 120v. My outdoor Unitary Heat pump is a Coleman HMH7 with an inverter board. My natural gas furnace is a 2 speed variable ecm so it also has a board that requires good sign waves. I was going to buy that Firman he’s got but I think the THD on it is too high. I’m an Hvac tech as well and did this research with a help from the supplier tech support. I’m surprised that Firman powered up his minisplit as well but how do you guys feel about wear and tear on those boards with that high THD? Bad thing about this Westinghouse is it’s only 120v 30amps so it’s only good enough to give me natural gas heating but no AC is we’re out during the short summer here in Seattle. Great video, just my thoughts and also if anyone out there that knows any portable Generators like those that can do 240v 30amps any type of fuel with a low THD roughly 3-5% is what I’m trying to find. 👍
@PaulCyclist
@PaulCyclist 10 ай бұрын
I added a $100 ups and my electric stuff is safe with the same gen set
@ahent1975
@ahent1975 10 ай бұрын
@@PaulCyclist I am worried about the electronics on just about everything and I have a 4,500 sqft home so I got the SUA10000EC from Costco for less than $800 and it has a THD of less than 5% plus it's big enough to run almost everything in my home if needed (of course not the washer and dryer). Luckily, I haven't had to use it for that but I have been happy with it for what I use it for.
@ahent1975
@ahent1975 10 ай бұрын
@@TrungNguyen-jf2sg if the neutral is bonded to the frame of the generator make sure you wire in a disconnect before hooking it up to your breaker box or else it can mess up some stuff. Bonded to the frame is great for using it on its own, but your house is already grounded so I wired in a disconnect wire I can use to break the neutral free of the frame if I need to use it for my home.
@ahent1975
@ahent1975 10 ай бұрын
@@TrungNguyen-jf2sg I got the SUA10000EC by iPower from Costco and it has less than 5% THD. It was a great buy at the time (less than $900 if I remember) and it will run 240V at 50A. Once I wired in the bonded neutral cut off it was good to go.
@burnafterreading7335
@burnafterreading7335 6 ай бұрын
This is a great video. I am in the process of setting something like this up. Thanks for making this video
@mikeham5465
@mikeham5465 10 ай бұрын
I have that same brand I bought in 2014.. I was upset that i was supposed to get a Goodman but got this we went back and forth.. anyways 9yrs later still working like a champ only had to replace capacitor last summer.. besides that nothin not even a charge 1.5 ton here
@4WingView
@4WingView 8 ай бұрын
So very happy i found this. Living in florida so needed this info.
@gr8705
@gr8705 10 ай бұрын
I had a great set up at my old house, but now I don’t have natural gas. I spent about $3,300 for everything including the electrician to install 50 amp outlet, natural gas conversion kit and hose, plumber to install gas outlet, MicroAir soft start and Duromax 13000eh generator. It ran a 4 ton AC just fine. This guy is only powering a 2 ton AC.
@rwstarke
@rwstarke 10 ай бұрын
FYI .... According to the T07571 manual, the maximum is 31.25A. I have the same generator. I have seen a 42A peak at startup using the Micro Air soft starter, but it is usually 36A. Then the A/C runs on 13A. When the A/C starts, I still have the refrigerator, HDTV, desktop PC, LED lights and other small devices on without a problem. I think that the generator is producing more watts on NG than what is stated in the manual.
@attimus02
@attimus02 10 ай бұрын
Are you running a FIRMAN generator like he has or an Inverter? I have the same FIRMAN and was told not to run electronics off of it due to the dirty sine wave of electricity that could harm sensitive electronics
@rwstarke
@rwstarke 10 ай бұрын
@@attimus02 Same generator, same model. It is not pure sine wave. I do have four UPS's on my HDTVs, computers, routers, external hard drives, Xfinity X1 box and have not had a problem except the UPS's will beep and click when using the generator. I have a stupid power strip plugged into the UPS battery backup side with items plugged into the strip. All I have to do is move one plug to the surge protector side. And then turn off UPS. Surge protector with EMI/RFI Filter will still work. APC PowerChute has a sensitivity setting which may help with the clicking. If I don't use a UPS then I do have APC surge protectors. My Fisher & Paykel Dishdrawers will beep. As a backup, I have two 1408Wh and two 666Wh power stations, and eight 100W rigid solar panels which I made into four suitcases to set up in the back yard. I could also use the generator to charge the power stations and use on anything sensitive.
@jrumlr
@jrumlr 10 ай бұрын
Man you rock. Thank you very much for your time and knowledge sir.
@robavis4906
@robavis4906 10 ай бұрын
I just installed the icm870 in my a/c unit today. I got one because of one of your videos and i think Taddy Digest did a video on them also. I did it mainly to help extend the life of the unit. Hopefully my generator will start it up. Mine went from 70 in rush to about 26. That is a big change but my generator only has a 30amp twistlock. i guess it is borderline but ill have to test it out to see if it will start it. Love your vids man. I watch a few of u hvac guys and u put out some great info.
@bobjeffrey8863
@bobjeffrey8863 10 ай бұрын
YES,, LOVE my FURMAN 7571,, YES it runs my house A/C and most everything else,( NOT H20 heater)...I do have the soft start for the A/C,, Thanks for the video
@boathemian7694
@boathemian7694 10 ай бұрын
I’m a generator tech and personally own two Firman gennies.
@mmane257
@mmane257 10 ай бұрын
you sir are very helpful and informative to us diyers.that’s why i am a subscriber to your channel.
@artvelcro
@artvelcro 9 ай бұрын
Great video. So well done with none of any trivial BS.
@dustinlashley1
@dustinlashley1 10 ай бұрын
Awesome video Dave. Happy surprise to see this in my KZbin suggested feed 😃
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy 10 ай бұрын
What’s up dude?! It’s been a minute! Send me an email I’d love to catch up! Diyhvacguy@gmail.com
@betomusik
@betomusik 10 ай бұрын
Great information. Thank you, as always.
@patricknelson
@patricknelson 8 ай бұрын
Awesome… this was super informative in my particular case because #1 you can get refurb tri-fuel generators at a reasonable cost and #2 I (a novice) had no clue those quick release valves existed (it seems obvious though, I know). Now I’m thinking this is an awesome supplement to a more expensive setup too for whole home battery backups. If the power in the battery starts to get low, you could maybe use this to recharge your batteries for completely uninterrupted power supply over long term (cheaper too since that generator uses 72cuft/hr when completely idle but 101cuft on full load).
@jvazquez53
@jvazquez53 10 ай бұрын
Good info, been using whole house generators for over 20 years. Right now I own three generators: One of those Firman and two Honda EU7000is. BTW, those Firmans are great but NOISY!!!
@TrustworthyExpert
@TrustworthyExpert 10 ай бұрын
I bought one, got it all hooked up but haven't ran it yet. The muffler is huge for a small engine, but I guess you are comparing it to those ultra quiet hondas.
@kcgaidin
@kcgaidin 9 ай бұрын
I went to the link in the video description and it claims 72db...is this claim bs?
@JerryWillis-ub9lb
@JerryWillis-ub9lb 10 ай бұрын
I like the idea of having a portable generator for home back up instead of a stationary. Propane fuel would be great for off grid camping.
@jdc1978
@jdc1978 9 ай бұрын
I have that same generator. It is great and believe it or not it’s easy to pull start also.
@johnclyne6350
@johnclyne6350 2 ай бұрын
Firman’s are very LOUD! I have been on one job where they had a Firman. I was underwhelmed. Great presentation though. I have a hard start capacitor for my 2-1/2 ton central a/c. I need to upgrade to a soft start kit. I have my eye on one. I have the same side generator. I have the Honda EU7000is. It is phenomenal in my opinion. I have used it several times & is much, much quieter. Plus it puts out steady clean power. I have an interlock in my CB panel. My unit uses less gasoline than most & with a auxiliary fuel tank only need to fill it every two days.
@JimmyKSimmonsOfficial
@JimmyKSimmonsOfficial 9 ай бұрын
Sold my sticks and bricks end of 2019 - live full time in a 45' Grand Design "mansion on wheels" - I have a generator that is propane/gas powered just in case - there are soft start options for Rvs in case you need to run multiple AC's and everything else, which my home has 3 hence 3 soft starts needed - but - I can be completely off grid in moments if needed - good on you telling home owner's about soft start options - most people by a whole home Generac or solar at a MUCH higher price point for the same results HA! Next time there is a major hurricane etc. this video count will go way up!
@jamegrabham9992
@jamegrabham9992 10 ай бұрын
Great video...I have the same setup here (less the "soft start")...same Firman generator running on clean NG...no worries about "gumming" it up with gasoline...I also installed a separate Siemen pony panel for the generator with the proper disconnects...then moved home essential circuits to that panel...the AC, unit did not make the cut...I hope that we don't have to use it, but you never know???
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy 10 ай бұрын
Awesome thanks for sharing!
@humbledrummer777
@humbledrummer777 10 ай бұрын
Running your AC at 66. My kinda bro! You must live in Houston!
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy 10 ай бұрын
Haha us hvac guys gotta make sure our system cools to 66 on a hundred degree day 🤣
@victorvega8800
@victorvega8800 9 ай бұрын
We have used the kzbin.infoUgkxOTeIs0vv4_9B5hsmnLsk9r930uDQLu_Y for probably 30 hours with our camper and it’s been great! The noise level is really only noticeable when running the AC and other appliances like the microwave, hair dryer, or coffee pot. It’s not huge like other ones and it has wheels so even at 90lbs, I can move it!
@r.patrickcraig7659
@r.patrickcraig7659 10 ай бұрын
great video, tons of info I needed!
@whiskeycast3785
@whiskeycast3785 10 ай бұрын
This is a good way to show people how to burn their house down and blow the pins out of the air conditioner This is also the reason that in order to pull a permit for a generator install you have to do it load calculation because people will just hook up a generator and assume it has enough power the entire house
@strykerentllc
@strykerentllc 10 ай бұрын
Your doggo was the star of the show. LOL
@joecoleman288
@joecoleman288 3 ай бұрын
I wish I had 1% of this knowledge. I'm so jealous! Unfortunately I have no time to learn a whole new trade right now. But this content inspires me!
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy 3 ай бұрын
That’s the power of KZbin academy baby! You can learn anything 👊🏼
@robertcearley7777
@robertcearley7777 6 ай бұрын
Something VERY IMPORTANT that was not mentioned. You need a 240 v generator not 120v. Most generators are 120 volt. After buying 2 cosfco generators, a parallel kit and paying an electrician $1500 to do the electrical work to put in an inlet and an Interlock kit I found out the hard way, that my two firman generators would only power "every other circuit breaker". The electrician confirmed that the only way to power the whole house is that you have to have a 240 volt generator. Unfortunately 240 volt generators are expensive and I lost a lot of $$ since I waited too long before finishing the project and had to sell off my firman generators. Sure costco allows returns but if you return too many items or too many big items you risk getting your membership terminated.
@user-ze6dz1mf4m
@user-ze6dz1mf4m 10 ай бұрын
Great information. Thank you, as always.. Great information. Thank you, as always..
@thomasalison6188
@thomasalison6188 10 ай бұрын
You're a wealth of great information!
@dewholdingsllc1050
@dewholdingsllc1050 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the content. Gathering information. I knew about the soft start boxes from the RV world and how they allow RV AC to run on much lower amps. Including a small generator. Good to see the generator is working to power Home AC. I have a NG pipeline at a new property but not electric service so I’m having to plan on doing a non grid tie solar array and a permanent NG generator tie in with a solar power cell for storage. Electric power equipment is in extreme shortage right now in USA and really expensive because of the shortage and the electric coop says it’s a year or more out to obtain a new line. They require a 25kva outdoor rated transformer and I have not been able to locate one in this state and one I did find in South Dakota was $7300. If I buy the equipment and the cables to run the lines I don’t get reimbursed, just donating the equipment in order to get a new line. I personally would rather invest my money in a NG generator and solar array and storage system. Keep these low budget low energy content coming.
@shenmisheshou7002
@shenmisheshou7002 10 ай бұрын
The soft start does not reduce the running amperage, only the in-rush that lasts about 1/3rd of a second. If the AC takes 2000 watts to run, it can take up to 6000 watts to overcome the locked rotor amperage, which is what the compressor needs to overcome the static pressure in the system. The Locked Rotor Amperage (LRA) is written on the spec plate of the AC. For example, my 3.5 ton unit has an LRA of 109 amps, but once running, the system (including the circulation blower) runs about 4000 watts but even with a soft start, the draw starting draw is too much for my 5000 watt (6250 peak) inverter generator.
@JohnSmith-uy7sv
@JohnSmith-uy7sv 10 ай бұрын
You're a lifesaver. So thorough. Not that it's a big deal, but could you use one for the hot water tank? I always turn ours off in a hurricane and if we need to use it, turn off all the lights and run it. More important to have A/C and lights than anything. I just have to see what size ICM870 I need for my 3.5 ton unit. Thanks again. 🙂
@generallee0178
@generallee0178 4 ай бұрын
The portable Generator I found that puts out 5% THD is the Westinghouse WGen11500TFc - Tri- fuel which retails for $1700
@gimaru1
@gimaru1 9 ай бұрын
Good video. Sounds like on gasoline you could get a little over 4 amps extra draw from that generator.
@jimdavidson5208
@jimdavidson5208 8 ай бұрын
6.3 amps draw on the common? Off a 2 ton compressor and fan? Is it a multi stage unit? What is the LRA on that 2 ton compressor? Oh your soft start is where it's at. Wow that is working like a charm.
@truthseekerKJV
@truthseekerKJV 10 ай бұрын
There is always a downside to running the HVAC through a generator. The power just isn't the same as grid power, but it's better than sitting in a hot house with no lights.
@dammitbobby283
@dammitbobby283 8 ай бұрын
The problem with this setup is it's exposed to the storm that knocked out the power in the first place which means the person starting the generator is exposed. Nobody wants to stand in a storm. Also the generator will get soaked by rain.
@mwredfern
@mwredfern 9 ай бұрын
This is a great video! Can you answer a question for me? Are you running the fridge also? How many fridges. And if needed, are you able to run a tv and a gas oven with this unit. Also, water heater. The reason I ask, cause I feel like there’s some misconception out there with how big a generator is needed. I have a townhome, with 2 ton AC, 2 fridges, water heater, electric washer dryer, 2 tvs, 2 computers, a Wi-Fi router and of course lights throughout the house. Not everything will be ran at the same time. So I feel like something under 10000 is big enough. Thanks again for this awesome video. Look forward to your reply and anyone following the comments.
@l31007
@l31007 4 ай бұрын
Excellent video! How would you know when the grid power comes back on?
@donarndt9525
@donarndt9525 3 ай бұрын
You forgot one very important thing. If you are connecting to your circuit panel you need to unbond the ground from the frame of the generator. You don’t want two locations where you bond the neutral and the ground. There is a jumper on the generator you need to pull off. If you are using a cord right to the source, not through the circuit panel you have to put it back on.
@davidmojonnier1034
@davidmojonnier1034 10 ай бұрын
It's kinda cool being the only house in the neighborhood with lights on. Must have if you're watching out for frail family members in the Southwest.
@robertr1096
@robertr1096 10 ай бұрын
There are some 220 volt, 9500 watt, inverter type generators, for those concerned about damaging electronics with a portable generator such as this Firman. But they are a lot more money and probably use gasoline only.
@bubbatime
@bubbatime 9 ай бұрын
Champion model 201176 is a 9000 watt tri-fuel inverter generator. Wen also makes and sells one. As does Pulsar and Duromax
@spadaro1129
@spadaro1129 4 ай бұрын
Only a view minutes in and first time Seeing your channel what a nice video and helpful
@punkrockford
@punkrockford 9 ай бұрын
You should not start the generator after closing the breaker. You should start the generator and then close the breaker. When you switch back you should open the breaker and then turn the generator off. Generators should not be started or stopped under load. It can cause stator failure.
@SmoothbassmanStudios
@SmoothbassmanStudios 9 ай бұрын
It wasn't started under load. The power delivery switch was in the off position on the generator when he fired it up.
@mpgravol
@mpgravol 10 ай бұрын
Good Demonstration, BUT.....Be very concerned about potential damage you can do to sensitive electronic equipment ( AC , TV, Computer, etc.). I own the same generator and according to data posted on the Firman website it is rated at 11 to 14% THD. This is way higher than what is recommended for sensitive electronic equipment. The power supply for sensitive electronics should have < 5% THD. I would hate to damage the circuit board on my inverter based AC ...or even my two speed compressor as it would be a very costly fix. I like this generator, but wish it put out cleaner power. Any thoughts on how to address the PQ issue with this generator? I live in South Louisiana and ran multiple window units with the generator and didn't have an issue. Sure would be nice to be able to run one of my central AC units.
@Bassguitarist1985
@Bassguitarist1985 10 ай бұрын
There is no way to clean up high THD at this size of generator. Its simply not economical in cost. You would need a sizable load reactor device that is matched to the loads in your house. This would basically absorb all the higher harmonic voltage/currents above 60HZ and convert it to waste heat but leave the 60hz power alone for your loads to use. Over time high THD can and WILL cause damage. The bigger enemy is actually voltage surges since portable generators at this level while many have brush type AVRs or brushless capacitor excited, the regulation will never be as "tight" as utility. A heavy load starts, the engine momentarily drops in speed before the engine governor responds, and the AVR drops in voltage and takes a moment to recover the voltage back to the preset level. The AVR can "overshoot" the recovery for a very brief time where high voltages can be seen by your devices and damage them. To your point thats not good. Sufficient surge suppression like MOVs in a circuit can help absorb these transients sacrificing themselves before your inverter based AC.
@Bassguitarist1985
@Bassguitarist1985 10 ай бұрын
@@N-M424 not necessarily. I have tested generators with an amp probe meter and at half a load for a 6,500 watt generator with a 3000 watt resistive loan I've seen THD as high as 16%, and would only get worse from there. It comes down to the build quality of the powerhead.
@Bassguitarist1985
@Bassguitarist1985 10 ай бұрын
@@N-M424 it was a Generac GP6500. Full load it was closer to 20%. Doubtful it would be that low for the Firman.
@Bassguitarist1985
@Bassguitarist1985 10 ай бұрын
@@N-M424 that is what the firman website says about the model yes, but Id be willing to bet with a resistive load that THD would be more.
@Bassguitarist1985
@Bassguitarist1985 10 ай бұрын
@@N-M424 agreed. Between James Condon and myself we are testing THD one portable generator at a time!
@VinniePepperoni
@VinniePepperoni 10 ай бұрын
Great video and info
@benh580
@benh580 8 ай бұрын
Awesome setup. My power went out for 8 hrs the other day. I have two ac units (upstairs and downstairs) I was able to run everything except the upstairs ac with a 12000W generator. I wonder if i added a soft start for both ac units if i could run them both. One system is a 2.5 ton and the other is a 3 ton.
@cfitt
@cfitt 8 ай бұрын
Hi, thank you so much for this video. We just bought the newest version of the Firman from Costco with Tri-Fuel. We have plumbed LP in our community and I am setting up the Firman as you have with a quick connection to this gas system. We live in Maui in a community north of the fire we just had. I realized we were totally unprepared and luckily found this generator after the fire and we are quickly becoming prepared. I would just like to ask you what is the best way to estimate how much gas we would be using from the community system to only power with extension cords. We would be powering for now only our deep freezer which is 7 cubic and a refrigerator 13 cubic and a Starlink satellite. In the future, I would love to set it up like you have to have a connection to the house but electricians are hard to come by right now during this crisis. Thank you for your help and God Bless.
@jeremygallimore3042
@jeremygallimore3042 10 ай бұрын
Hey man I’m an HVAC guy in Salt Lake City and I have to say I’m pretty impressed with your set up. I’m sure this is a yes but did you have your refrigerator & deep freeze running? It’s not a huge load just curious. Great video my man. Keep up the good work!
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy 10 ай бұрын
Yes, I had two regular fridges (home and garage beer fridge) AND my deep freeze running 👍🏼
@user-tk1ec1hd4e
@user-tk1ec1hd4e 14 күн бұрын
Just subscribed after watching this. I still cant pull off doing this alone so will just pay someone 🙈
@marylandgal5286
@marylandgal5286 3 ай бұрын
Thank you i rarely see vid about how to run hvacs on generators. Had never heard of a soft start kit! Can you run heat with this too? Or just AC ?
@johnjames5842
@johnjames5842 6 ай бұрын
Only problem is in most states the natural gas is pumped using electrical powered pump stations, so no power in a wide area, and you may have no natural gas. The solution is a Tri-fuel generator, si you can use Nat gas, propane or gasoline, in freezing temps propane wont work, pressure is too low, you need heating blankets on the bottles . everything else in theis video is awesome and very helpful, im in the process of buying all the stuff to do this at our house, in case we have a weeks without power from a freeze or storm.
@mfb6310
@mfb6310 3 ай бұрын
So what are you going to do? I have NG but yes it is tied to the area's pump stations. If I chose propane, I'd have to get a big propane tank, the gen and wire it all, and keep it all warm. Huge battery bank is almost as expensive as a standing generator. I'm no electrician. Solar is too expensive to just decrease a monthly electric bill, if not in inclement weather by chance. And geothermal is expensive! Curious to your solution.
@MadsWorld34
@MadsWorld34 10 ай бұрын
wow its hard to believe that a generator that small would even run a house. i have a 8750 /7000 harbor freight and love it it runs my entire house. but it dont have a 50 amp plug. GRRR and i really like your power inlet box once in a while mine will work loose and i will lose have my house and thanks to you i just ordered one. even though it is only 30 amp. and the only gas we can get around here is propane so i more less have to stay with gas. another GRRR.
@brentbrowning
@brentbrowning 9 ай бұрын
Great video!
@clivewarner2162
@clivewarner2162 8 ай бұрын
Have a 5KW gen similar and it easily powers 2 mini splits, a 1.5Ton and a 2Ton.
@jackwhite6030
@jackwhite6030 8 ай бұрын
Excellent video....
@markadkins9290
@markadkins9290 9 ай бұрын
Great stuff!
@goldblueberries326
@goldblueberries326 10 ай бұрын
Is there a solution for a well pump soft start to reduce the start pump Amp draw?
@natestakely1478
@natestakely1478 8 ай бұрын
Neighbor just did this, he's now operating a portable AC in 100 degree temps in Louisiana while they look for a condenser fan motor.
@CaptK-py8rq
@CaptK-py8rq 8 ай бұрын
We were looking at this same generator at Costco. We have a single 5-ton AC unit, house is 3000 sf, will the soft start work with this generator with an AC this size? I know you said yours is only 2 tons. I was wanting to go this route since we have Nat-Gas. Last outage I used my gasoline only 7.5K generator. I wired in the 6 circuit Reliant transfer switch years ago but do not have the AC on it. Thank you and thank you for all of your informative videos!
@boomni99y
@boomni99y 10 күн бұрын
Do you have a video on how the transfer switch box was wired up ?
@franksinatra2278
@franksinatra2278 8 ай бұрын
You really should let the generator idle for a few minutes before drawing power. My owners manual makes a big point of that as it will extend the life of the generator.
@jhariette
@jhariette 10 ай бұрын
I need a generator like this!!!!!
@keiths1
@keiths1 9 ай бұрын
Could a similar set up be used for an emergency solar connection? Any recommendations for a generator that is a little more quiet? Or are there not many quiet options for generators that can handle all that power load?
@aspitofmud6257
@aspitofmud6257 10 ай бұрын
Thank you. 👍
@raulsanchez4493
@raulsanchez4493 2 ай бұрын
I need info on those soft start units & how to install them. I have 2 Goodman 2-ton units & I have a 10kw natural gas generator. I’m sure I can run both if I had those soft starts installed.
@justinjones6810
@justinjones6810 10 ай бұрын
Just interested what brand of mini split do you think is the most reliable with the least amount of breakdowns
@bubbatime
@bubbatime 9 ай бұрын
Good video. Only thing I would do different is sell that generator and buy an inverter generator. Your generator has 15% total harmonic distortion which can and will destroy circuit boards in your house. Check out the Champion 201176 tri fuel inverter 9000 watt generator. It has less than 3% distortion
@mikeperry2814
@mikeperry2814 7 күн бұрын
I assume you turned off the dryer, stove and electric water heater (if applicable) breakers.
@briananderson7030
@briananderson7030 10 ай бұрын
If I have a heat pump instead of an air conditioner do I still need that soft start if I want the similar set up? I live in Indiana so it is used for heating and cooling
@philipmartin2622
@philipmartin2622 3 ай бұрын
First, during many types of emergencies your natural gas will be shut off to prevent fires. Second, during an emergency your central air, electric stove, electric dryer and electric furnace use too much power and should not be turned on. If absolutely necessary, you can get a 5000-8000 btu window unit and only run it for a couple hours before bed time with the bedroom closed off and it should stay cool enough till morning. A microwave can do most of the cooking in just minutes on 1100 watts. You should be able to get by with a 3500 watt generator or inverter which will use far less fuel. While living off the grid, I have never found it necessary to run the generator more than a couple hours per day. Just 10 gallons of stabilized gas will easily last all week. A couple indoor/outdoor wireless thermometers keep track of the refrigerator and freezer to minimize run time. Always connect several items at once to more efficiently use your generator time. An oil lamp with a few quarts of lamp oil and some cheap solar yard lights($3each) can provide all your lighting. Using a smaller generator and being prepared for a long term power outage makes more sense than having something that powers everything but will run out of fuel in just a few days. I also use two heavy duty 50 foot extension cords and plug the appliances in directly to the generator rather than waste money on an expensive transfer box. Some people may have different needs but I don't want to waste money on a $10,000-12,000 whole house system just to use every convenience.
@Johnnysokko168
@Johnnysokko168 8 ай бұрын
I have same setup but no gas in my area that would be so nice to have and not keep so many 5 gal cans around. I also have the suicide cord but i know what im doing i just back feed through garage panel. I am interested in the soft start for air thats the one thing i cant run on generator currently.
@Ezekiel33USA
@Ezekiel33USA 10 ай бұрын
I have this same setup, but I have a 2 ton and 5 ton AC units. I can run the 2 ton without soft start as long as I don’t have much else running on it. I am wondering if I could run a 5 ton with soft start.
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