How to install an external sounder | Alarm wiring

This video shows how to install and wire an AZ-Tech external sounder unit to a Honeywell ADE Gen 4 Burglar alarm panel. Brought to you by www.ultimatehan...

[@silverwhizz]

I bought the same aztech, after hours of scratching my head your video solved my problem in minutes, excellent and thank you for the video

[@ultimatehandyman]

Great to hear!

[@ultimatehandyman]

@james murphy Yes, I am much better thanks. I hope to get the PA video made sometime next week :-) The Master Blaster was about £120 (they are not cheap)

[@tgpfireandsecurity8786]

***** Master Blasters are quite expensive you are correct even eBay sell them for about £130. Not cheap. I have bought 2 P.A for my burglar alarm and is sitting inside of the panel getting ready to be wired in. Also when you get Your P.A wired in could you press it so that you've tested it please. :-)

[@tgpfireandsecurity8786]

***** I tried wiring the P.A button earlier but I still kept seeing a fault light on the main control panel so it seems to be how I'm wiring it. :-( (I was using 4 core cable) I'm going to have to wait until you get the video made :-)

[@ultimatehandyman]

james murphy Try this- How to wire a PA button to a Burglar alarm ;-)

[@ultimatehandyman]

@urbex2007 Thanks for the info ;-) For some reason I can't reply to your comments!

[@3353]

Great video,helped me solve my problem as instructions were no help,thanks very much

[@ultimatehandyman]

I'm glad it helped Thanks for the comment

[@ultimatehandyman]

@Daniel Campagne Not sure about regulations but you should get permission from the Landlord ;-)

[@brianmilligan1787]

WHAT you mean

[@TheNeverposts]

thank you so much for showing how the inside circuitry of my external alarm works. I had a power out and I couldn't keep it from ringing, I managed to silence the internal alarm but that one wouldn't shut up... now it's finnaly over Man: 2 Machine: 0

[@ultimatehandyman]

Well done ;-) Thanks for the comment

[@DanielCampagne]

Are you aware of any regulations when it comes to drilling holes/placing the bell on the facade of a small block of flats in the UK? do I have to ask permission to anyone as I'm renting? Thanks a lot, extremely helpful videos!

[@robertsingleton2364]

Hi the set up around the 3 jumpers do they have 2 pins each jumper and I need to swop them over on the pins for the 3 of them before closing the box ? Thanks bob

[@ultimatehandyman]

Can't remember, sorry. It should have a diagram in the instructions? Thanks for the comment

[@Petertronic]

There's more to this than I thought. Do you know why there is a pcb full of electronics in the bell box, why isn't it just the sounder & strobe light?

[@ultimatehandyman]

Years ago you used to but a empty bell box and then wire it up to a sounder and strobe but now they are much better. They are now full of circuitry to make it a self contained bell unit, so they now have a backup battery in the actual bell box (which is useful if someone cuts the cable going to it). They also have reassurance LED's and can also be configured easily be moving any of the three jumpers. I must admit that in the past you had to think when wiring these up, but this AZ-TECH sounder (made by Kinetic) has brilliant instructions, as it has diagrams on how to wire it to several different alarm panels! Thanks for the comment ;-)

[@Petertronic]

***** Interesting - learning a lot here! Thanks

[@craigaseddon]

Any ideas of how to get rid of the PA lockout on this alarm. Thanks

[@ultimatehandyman]

If the PA button is not stuck in, you should be able to reset the alarm by inputting your number and pressing the X key twice. If it won't reset there is a problem with the PA circuit, either the switch needs looking at- or you could link it out in the panel. Thanks for the comment 👍

[@mattheww3116]

Hi Handyman, is it safe to run a power cable next to the bellbox cable. ie. In the same trunking ? Thanks Matt

[@ultimatehandyman]

Not sure, sometimes you can get interference when running cables alongside each other, especially with telecommunications etc. If the power cable is just for lighting or sockets it will cause much less interference than that of a cable supplying a 9KW shower. It's best to keep them separate if you can.

[@angrymark1389]

Hi can you give me some advice on how to wire my bell box as I can’t get it to work?

[@AllenGoldsmith]

if you have cables running on the outside of a house do you try and run them inside the house or run them in trunking/conduit?

[@ultimatehandyman]

I always try and run cables internally, but sometimes it's not possible such as when installing camera's in difficult locations. In such circumstances I run the cables in plastic conduit. I am running a cable for a PIR to an outbuilding soon but this will not be in conduit, but I have purchased special exterior grade cable for this purpose. Thanks for the comment

[@AllenGoldsmith]

***** if someone had a brand new kitchen installed, and on the other side of the wall wanted lighting wall mounted to the exterior would you run the cables inside? if so would you chase the walls?

[@ultimatehandyman]

Allen Goldsmith No, I'd run the cable externally in conduit. When you asked about external cables originally I thought you were asking about alarm cables as this video is about alarm wiring! There is a page here that shows permitted zones for running mains voltage cables- www.ultimatehandyman.co.uk/how-to/electrics/permitted-wiring-zones

[@MrLH25]

Could you please post a link to a PDF file of the book for that bell box please?

[@ultimatehandyman]

MrLH25 I have just checked the manufacturers website and there does not seem to be one, sorry!

[@MrLH25]

D:

[@ultimatehandyman]

MrLH25 I have scanned my manual for you- www.ultimatehandyman.org/PDF/kinetic.pdf

[@SPEEDYFITZ]

hi pal, I have an HKC alarm that has started ringing at the bell box without being set, EXT Bell Temper is displayed on the keypad, I got a ladder and opened it up, the temper switch looks to be ok so was wondering if the Bell Box battery was bad would it give the same fault

[@ultimatehandyman]

Not sure, but most bell boxes start playing up after a few years, as water often gets into the box at some point. I guess you could try replacing the external battery, if that fails you might just need a new bell box. Thanks for the comment 👍

[@AllenGoldsmith]

can you buy that sort of cable from screwfix or somewhere like that ?

[@ultimatehandyman]

Yes, screwfix sell alarm cable. It's about £25 for 100m

[@AllenGoldsmith]

nice one cheers mate :)

[@tgpfireandsecurity8786]

ultimate handyman if i lived near you i would've let you borrowed my ladders which are very tall and you would not have had to stretch that high.

[@tgpfireandsecurity8786]

Ultimate Handyman where are you from if you don't mind me asking.

[@Dreamweaver787]

We have the same system as this, randomly the alarm would just go off, changed in int battery to no avail, then got tamper lock out on the control panel, after some messing, I by passed the tamper to the external bell box and cleared the message. However, the outside bell has stopped working but able to set the alarm, removed the tamper bypass the bell box now lights up and if you remove the cover sets the strobe and siren off but get the tamper lock out error again. Checked all cables to box and panel and ok. Someone suggested that it's the bell box batteries need replacing but I cannot see any batteries in it. Before I get anyone out can anyone shed any light on what possibly could be at fault.

[@ultimatehandyman]

I’m not an expert, but at my last house the alarm was playing up and it turned out to be the bell box. Over time they get water in them and it causes damage, or sometimes the self-contained battery leaks onto the PCB. I replaced the bell box and the problems went away 👍

[@Dreamweaver787]

@@ultimatehandyman Thanks fella, I thought it might be a weather-related issue but it's only 3 years old, and when it shows the tamper lock and not bypassed and you open the box up the strobes go off, the siren blarts out and the leds light up which I would of thought if water related damage these areas would be faulty. Tis a strange one.

[@marksneyd1262]

What did you set the jumpers to please? Thanks

[@ultimatehandyman]

Can't remember, sorry. I just followed the engineers manual.

[@woopdairitiz]

help! i am not getting 12v leaving the panel to my sounder? any ideas why?

[@ultimatehandyman]

There are a few glass fuses on the circuit board, perhaps one of those has blown?

[@kcvocalentertainer]

If you only have 4 wires available, is it possible to wire the sounder and the strobe only? The bell box is that high it doesn’t need the tamper.

[@ultimatehandyman]

It should be possible, but you will have to remove the SCB from the external sounder.

[@kcvocalentertainer]

@@ultimatehandyman thanks for that, I’ll give it go.

[@kcvocalentertainer]

@@ultimatehandyman I’ve messed up somewhere and now struggling to get the system working. I have an Accenta G4 panel and a AG6 external sounder. I’m using the old wiring on a 4 core cable. At present the external sounder is wired V- = Black, V+ = Red, S- = Yellow & TR = Blue. My external sounder should have 2 alternating flashing LEDs but nothing is showing now. Any ideas would be appreciated.

[@ultimatehandyman]

@@kcvocalentertainer You said originally that you wanted to wire the sounder and the strobe, no mention of the reassurance LED's You'll need two more wires for the reassurance LED's You might be able to wire the strobe and sounder on one pair of wires and the reassurance LED's on the other pair of wires, but you won't be able to test the strobe and sounders independently.

[@kcvocalentertainer]

@@ultimatehandyman I need to mention they worked before I messed with it, using only 4 wires TADB. I thought by disconnecting the tamper on the bell box and connecting it to strobe, that it would work. Sadly it didn’t. I put the wire back as it were now nothing.

[@tudomerda]

Is it possible to decrease the volume of the external sounder siren ?

[@ultimatehandyman]

It’s not something I have ever done, as people normally want alarms to be as loud as possible, but you might be able to put a resistor in the circuit supplying the siren 👍

[@tudomerda]

@@ultimatehandyman alarms that have human response are predominant where I live hence a loud siren just annoys the neighbours, I know I speak from experience. It took a lot of effort to get my neighbour to investigate the false alarms which were due to improper/lazy latching of doors windows. their alarm sounded six times in one day.

[@calumr2051]

do you have 2 burglar alarms, great vid btw

[@ultimatehandyman]

Yes, one for the whole house and a separate one for the workshop. Thanks for the comment

[@slykboy1039]

Can you do a video on pyronix deltabell x, the manual is so confusing

[@ultimatehandyman]

+SlykBoy Sorry, it's not something I intend doing as I don't plan on installing any more alarms soon.

[@tgpfireandsecurity8786]

***** Could you do a video on how to replace bell box batteries in the bell box you have please :-)

[@Musicalbluewolf666]

when i move jumper from test to 20 minutes the bell sounds, on your video it didnt. am i doing something wrong

[@ultimatehandyman]

Not sure, is it the exact same bell box? Thanks for the comment 👍

[@Musicalbluewolf666]

@@ultimatehandymanactually a real problem I'm having is it's showing pa fault and zone 7/8 fire, I don't have any of these zones connected, any idea?

[@ultimatehandyman]

I would try putting a link wire in that zone, that should disable the zone.

[@armzbarmz]

Good job mate! Would you know if you can wire a second bell box to the same terminals in the alarm panel? Thanks

[@ultimatehandyman]

+armzbarmz Yes, I'm sure that you can wire up two bell boxes to the one panel but best to check in the instructions if you still have them.

[@tgpfireandsecurity8786]

+Ultimate Handyman Are you feeling any better? if you are that's good, im just gonna say how much did you pay for the master blaster?

[@scowlsmcjowls2626]

Can i put 3 sabb bell boxes on a hkc 1070?

[@ultimatehandyman]

I have no idea, you'll have to check the manual!

[@philtaylor3098]

Not all the wiring is the same as I've just found out from trying to install Optima g3 ag6 bell so treat the instructions with caution.

[@ultimatehandyman]

Thanks for the comment

[@TomMurnan]

What is the make

[@ultimatehandyman]

The sounder is- AZ-Tech external sounder unit And the alarm panel is - Honeywell ADE Gen 4 Burglar alarm panel

[@MikeHenrick1]

That bell box is to low, and the only reason for putting it there is to make it easy, or your telescopic ladders don't go high enough, i worked in alarms for years one company was ADT, if its easy for you to reach its easy for a criminal to reach. As for loud external sirens they are pretty much a waste of time and money, your better off install several sound bombs around the inside of the house so if someone breaks in the can't stand to be in the house, they will oscillate off each other and become really irritating, external siren just annoys people but how many times do you hear a house alarm go off and ignore it, all the time everyone does. good locks and great alarm, external security lights is the way i go, just be careful about the sound bombs. if you have pets.

[@ultimatehandyman]

+MikeyZ Synth-Eti-Cut That bell box is installed on my garage. It's almost at the maximum height of the garage, hence it is positioned where it is. I do have about 4 other ladders besides the telescopic one so reaching higher up is not a problem. There is a master blaster in the garage, which I guess is similar to sound bombs. Thanks for the comment

[@ultimatehandyman]

@ james murphy Darwen, Lancashire ;-)

[@tgpfireandsecurity8786]

***** Hi, its me James I have made a new KZbin account as I was getting spammed! But anyway I'm just going to say are you any good at electronics???

[@ultimatehandyman]

Not really my thing to be honest. I can look at a circuit board and find a burnt out diode/resistor and replace it but that's about the limit of my knowledge ;-)

[@tgpfireandsecurity8786]

Ok. I was about to say can you make a video on how to replace bell box batteries in the one u have please. Mine hasn't got one