How to play like the Best Carries in the World (6k MMR Alchemist + MK Training)

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BananaSlamJamma

BananaSlamJamma

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@bananaslamjamma
@bananaslamjamma 3 жыл бұрын
It's been awhile since we've had a high mmr coaching session on the main channel (most coaching sessions are available to view via the basic patreon level) - if you want to watch more coaching, replay analysis, extra content feel free to check out the patreon here: www.patreon.com/bsjgaming
@no3ironman11100
@no3ironman11100 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the content man, you were a bit sleepy at the start but it turned out to be a good session of dota to watch
@Nutei_Ralte_Lelhchhun
@Nutei_Ralte_Lelhchhun Жыл бұрын
Why u dont win Ti when you know how to carry ???
@chuifongtam4703
@chuifongtam4703 3 жыл бұрын
Man I love the brutal honesty that BSJ says. He is so brutally honest and really wants you to improve.
@matthewdelano1755
@matthewdelano1755 3 жыл бұрын
The guy getting coached was a great fucking sport.
@ZechMadox
@ZechMadox 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone should be
@xuxu2020
@xuxu2020 3 жыл бұрын
This is how u go high
@robbyheckman7813
@robbyheckman7813 3 жыл бұрын
Loving the content man. I feel like I'm terrible about actually thinking critically *within the game*. It feels so easy before or after.
@bananaslamjamma
@bananaslamjamma 3 жыл бұрын
Keep it up, progress and growth will come
@Manysdugjohn
@Manysdugjohn 3 жыл бұрын
rewatch your own replays
@whotookjimirocket
@whotookjimirocket 2 жыл бұрын
savage coach straight up love his input, really breaks down laning to such a basic level
@fatiguejras
@fatiguejras 3 жыл бұрын
That comment about potential is quite accurate. It is similar to what we call in physics as potential energy. To draw a parabole to Dota imagine a bow and an arrow ready to shoot with bow's string way back and ready to release. In that MKs game when he has stun and ult, he is just like that fully drawn bow ready to shoot. Once his stun is on cd, it's like it's mid way. Potential is there but not full. Less threatening. You don't want that going against heroes you know you could fuck with.
@Jazzeinberg
@Jazzeinberg 3 жыл бұрын
6k here and this jungle camp stacked farming tip hits close to home, i always was focused on killing creeps faster thinking that me getting xp as a pos1 is more valuable than this offlane sucking off the xp and never really thought about this xp denying process,, ty bsj
@danielgunchev3791
@danielgunchev3791 3 жыл бұрын
BSJ again man so nice content for players around 6k TY SO MUCH MAN!!! You are my coach N1 without knowing it :D
@SoulReaverPL
@SoulReaverPL 3 жыл бұрын
BSJ is the hero we all deserve! ❤
@janicesileo9107
@janicesileo9107 3 жыл бұрын
It feels like the difference between being high and super high mmr is the grasp of what to do in the extremely niche situations
@hellshot8
@hellshot8 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like there was a ton of broad advice here. It concerns me you think the situations brought up here are niche
@ashtonduda9971
@ashtonduda9971 3 жыл бұрын
@@hellshot8 it is very specific lol specific to this matchup.
@hellshot8
@hellshot8 3 жыл бұрын
@@ashtonduda9971 not really, a lot of these tips work for any greedy carry
@nathanroberts1708
@nathanroberts1708 3 жыл бұрын
@@hellshot8 i agree this session had alot of broad strokes to it but bsj went into alot of detail on why you are executing these strategies and even gave several examples of heros that come into similar situations. broad points 1. Think a few steps ahead as mentioned around 30 seconds. 2. Know when you are at advantage or disadvantage and punish enemey when at advantage or mitigate damage when at disadvantage. Think outside of the box to solve solutions instead of just accepting that you have to take a lesser option. Have a lower smurf account to practice on ( i admit i am not dedicated enough to do this ) Force reactions from the enemy whether they are small reactions from a am / alch or larger ones from a more threatening carry early . Tons more broad advice given as well but i feel i have wrote more then I originally planned.
@bubbles2438
@bubbles2438 3 жыл бұрын
i love this BSJ-coachingsessions. i always also try to give the right answers to his questions before his pupil does. feeling like in the show who wants to be a millionare :D you should make a game out of this coachingsessions BSJ. With answers to choose: like A,B,C,D with jokers and stuff :D so exciting evry time GG
@leoken8034
@leoken8034 3 жыл бұрын
This was really great quality content and advanced level stuff with the usual basics... Learned a lot!! Thnx 🍌🍌🍌
@vanguardas9927
@vanguardas9927 3 жыл бұрын
this video actually solves theproblem i sometimes have with my ranked games, my team isn't making space for me and this move will make space for myself
@MunchinOnDew
@MunchinOnDew 3 жыл бұрын
The better description you're looking for at 10:50 is: when you use abilities, use them with their CD already in mind and play around the 2nd time you'll want to use it. Think ahead. It's just like chess in that way.
@Antido0
@Antido0 3 жыл бұрын
32:55 as an offlaner i can tell that i dont enjoy playing on 6k bracket, most carries are so passive and i feel like am playing against bots or something and most of the time i own hard the lane just because of that, idk how other people look at it but if enemy player isnt competitive i dont enjoy playing a game
@kamekazi1123
@kamekazi1123 3 жыл бұрын
Start making it fun then. Doing weird shit. Building weird items. Experimenting
@bazu6001
@bazu6001 3 жыл бұрын
then just go crazy and ruin their midlaners game and give farm to your pos4
@louiec6159
@louiec6159 3 жыл бұрын
Me too bro. Just a phx offlane. Carries even smurfs cant handle shit.
@Antido0
@Antido0 3 жыл бұрын
i mean im playing to win but im not really having fun against people that are too bad i dont play actively at all, playing once or twice a week and going up slowly because its boring and almost everyone tilts easily too so even if im owning its not fun, messing around with items used to be one of these things i used to do but if i want to do that i just go techies and for some reason i have a decent winrate with that stupid hero lol helps to tilt people real quick and at least ill keep playing casually til 7k~ then see if people are more skilled there because i see almost no difference between top 1k+ immortal towards divine 3-5
@abrahamjunarno9395
@abrahamjunarno9395 Жыл бұрын
I watch all of your videos and I gain mmr from 3100 in the old days and now I'm 7k mmr. until today I'm still watching all of this to refresh my mind when I'm losing it's a great help man but sometimes my team are sucks and this things can't be done if your team is noob and the all of the towers are so early to get destroyed.
@HowLegit
@HowLegit 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else say "JAM!" right at the end of the intro reel
@nanik2808
@nanik2808 3 жыл бұрын
cringe
@arielperez3434
@arielperez3434 3 жыл бұрын
At 1:18:00 you say "you could have avoided the fight top, but you could have killed 1 more creep wave". ... Doesn't him walking up to WK lead to him dying if WK chases him and holds the stun as his team runs top?
@popops7879
@popops7879 3 жыл бұрын
About the first acid spray, what I thought was that using it at all was Bad, considering Alchemist's mana bar and the fact that because of the double wava alch could get all the creeps for free
@andre881
@andre881 3 жыл бұрын
Love the content. Brasil loves you
@gincin5231
@gincin5231 3 жыл бұрын
45:28 is my mom trying to teach me maths when i was a kid but i didnt know what i didnt know
@jacep9147
@jacep9147 3 жыл бұрын
As usual, fantastic content
@Ptitnain2
@Ptitnain2 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video.
@raoufben9792
@raoufben9792 3 жыл бұрын
5:14 yo bsj imho i think they could acid and time the pull so the tusk had chose between tanking the creeps under acid or let it pull and he won't be able to contest jakiro at the pull too.
@dusc4
@dusc4 3 жыл бұрын
holy shit that fort tip really was eye opening to me, def would try it from now on. i always thought forting creeps was only a mid play...just wow
@amiththomas3884
@amiththomas3884 3 жыл бұрын
Same, I was not expecting that. Really great info !
@cherub0nyx
@cherub0nyx 3 жыл бұрын
Just say aloud what you will do on a lane and what the enemy is abt to do.
@trevormills3339
@trevormills3339 3 жыл бұрын
Like a real coach, it seems like you don't really care about your students feelings. Respect. Also; it's more entertaining this way.
@stopmdot
@stopmdot 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Learned a lot.
@josephwjs
@josephwjs 3 жыл бұрын
BSJ, can you do an MK itemization video especially safelane role? Phase/treads into bfury/maelstrom/aghs. When do you go echo sabre/witch blade (or never).
@__scarcia__3814
@__scarcia__3814 3 жыл бұрын
nice content man, very clear!
@adamparkins9809
@adamparkins9809 3 жыл бұрын
i was recommended this video from the onion news articles. However I'm not sure what to make of this.
@Celinestu333
@Celinestu333 3 жыл бұрын
Lol bruh I've been watch onn a lot these days too
@Felix-tp8ch
@Felix-tp8ch 3 жыл бұрын
@@Celinestu333 i have too, i came here from onion
@whotookjimirocket
@whotookjimirocket 2 жыл бұрын
i wonder what the coach thinks about getting a pt into stun
@leonardoleite1085
@leonardoleite1085 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best!
@yoink9148
@yoink9148 3 жыл бұрын
Noob question. When in teamfights do you press a button to attack or just right click? and in the fog of war if youre chasing someone do you right click or press a button?
@wallthemart
@wallthemart 3 жыл бұрын
in teamfights usually just right click but im not too sure about the pros. if chasing in fog, definitely use A click. i have it on quick attack and smart attack so i just have to spam a in the fog and my hero automatically runs and attacks the moment it sees an enemy. really good for disabling blink if the enemy reacts too slowly. but in most cases it doesnt make too much of a difference unless your autoattack is set to never. then i highly recommend getting used to using A click alot
@yoink9148
@yoink9148 3 жыл бұрын
@@wallthemart this is what I do too but theres problem when a clicking on the fog it just go to a creep kzbin.info/www/bejne/nmare5ythKZjq5o I encounter this a lot in my games what do you when this happen?
@UnIucker
@UnIucker 3 жыл бұрын
@@yoink9148 attacking ground is good for chasing through fog, but never use it when enemy creeps are nearby, because if you lose vision of the hero it will default to the creeps. you just have to gauge the situation and do what is best.
@MunchinOnDew
@MunchinOnDew 3 жыл бұрын
How much are these one on one coaching sessions? $100 or something?
@SK3564
@SK3564 3 жыл бұрын
Hooolyy, I really feel like the more I know the less I feel I know
@vanguardas9927
@vanguardas9927 3 жыл бұрын
Hey BSJ, could you make a tidbit about what to do if your pos5 is shoving the lane (unintentionally) and it stays near the enemy offlaner's tower and i can't farm (think im at lvl3 where i can't jungle yet)...what's the best thing to do?
@captainjack1819
@captainjack1819 3 жыл бұрын
pull and farm small camp
@vanguardas9927
@vanguardas9927 3 жыл бұрын
@@captainjack1819 hmm makes sense...what i usually do is leech exp and beg my pos5 to pull the small camp...kinda feel like we will lose out a lot of exp in lane if i don't leech exp
@Md-lq9ry
@Md-lq9ry 3 жыл бұрын
Breh. Can u cast/analyze pro games from dpc. As gorgc do sometimes. Like the main ones.. Nigma, og, eg etc like those. Ty 👻
@sebastianlangemann5141
@sebastianlangemann5141 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, he is at EU DPC as Analyst and Commentator. OG, Secret, Nigma ect.
@hertendibalazs7676
@hertendibalazs7676 3 жыл бұрын
Eg KEKW
@bazu6001
@bazu6001 3 жыл бұрын
pro games are not practical they know what they are doing and understand everything and waits or forces their opponent team to make bad move and punish that but pub games never ever be that kind of level so its useless instead analizing 6k match will help you more than analizing pro games
@Md-lq9ry
@Md-lq9ry 3 жыл бұрын
@@bazu6001 lmao can u c the word cast with that..+there's a diff....like draft r prediction
@Md-lq9ry
@Md-lq9ry 3 жыл бұрын
@@sebastianlangemann5141 oh..ty for telling me..lmao,,,,he does'nt cast all....+he's more into na....by cast i mean a live r recorded session uploaded on his yt chan.
@racer_AB
@racer_AB 3 жыл бұрын
BSJ is a God!
@muaazkhalid9525
@muaazkhalid9525 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video BSJ, What is the most IDEAL MK build this patch?
@Md-lq9ry
@Md-lq9ry 3 жыл бұрын
Well! It depends on the draft/pos. 👀
@wallthemart
@wallthemart 3 жыл бұрын
you want to get away with maxing w asap. getting to the W damage talent asap. if farming real quick and all over the map safely using trees nonstop, then i think maelstrom aghs into bkb into abyssal and whatever you need after that. even in bad lanes i came back after the bkb aghs. its strong as fuck. the ult is like an ult from an offlaner but you also have your own offlaner and it makes your teamfights strong as hell. you can go battle fury in place of maelstrom but imo the hero misses some early opportunities if u go bf
@muaazkhalid9525
@muaazkhalid9525 3 жыл бұрын
@@wallthemart appreciated your reply! Thank you!
@asdfzxcv12345
@asdfzxcv12345 3 жыл бұрын
@@muaazkhalid9525 wallthemart’s answer is correct to a very high degree
@martinslavchev1858
@martinslavchev1858 Жыл бұрын
It's funny how he's at the level 4 stage of the game 1 hour into the video xD I enjoy the content, don't get me wrong, but still xDDD
@st4ysob3r
@st4ysob3r 3 жыл бұрын
51:06 im laughing my ass off about that high voice xDDD
@DeadlyShadow7
@DeadlyShadow7 3 жыл бұрын
interessting, that also heralds like me find this interessting. I just know much, much more in general than I can execute in game (which is nearly nothing :D) ty bsj, i like your vids alot. If you only had more mid beginner content :D
@sabranfauzan2158
@sabranfauzan2158 3 жыл бұрын
just make new account and maybe u will get better rank
@BB8enjoyer
@BB8enjoyer 3 жыл бұрын
The mindset of a farming carry
@pcxxy
@pcxxy 3 жыл бұрын
TLDW 1 - glyphing to protect creeps vs sand king 2 - pickup creeps and bring everything to you when you're strong, but split things up and dodge when you're weak
@tckgkljgfl7958
@tckgkljgfl7958 3 жыл бұрын
You missed the most important parts
@KanoN2502
@KanoN2502 3 жыл бұрын
Could you share the id game?
@Vinisito
@Vinisito 3 жыл бұрын
Bsj is is so clear omg só much knowlege.
@Talk3rs
@Talk3rs 3 жыл бұрын
Am I correct? 22 minutes, discussing acid on creeps - I would as well argue, that he is going to have double wave (from small camp pull), so it actually makes sense to keep the creeps higher, so he is not pushing right away from his tower, so he will be exposed or forced to jungle once it pushes into enemies (together with lacking mana and CD for next wave)... Is my thought process right?
@Talk3rs
@Talk3rs 3 жыл бұрын
never mind, they discuss it 2 minutes later... :D
@kmastermaster
@kmastermaster 3 жыл бұрын
Informative
@ahmadsiraj6383
@ahmadsiraj6383 Жыл бұрын
If he didn't use acid spray creeps wouldn't be in tower until next of his wave dies... Because of acid push went in tower fast...
@Vladimir5024
@Vladimir5024 3 жыл бұрын
I used to be a good chess player when i was young. Now i am a beast doto player still playing chess. *Smiling ezalor style* Hehehehe
@sleepLess33
@sleepLess33 3 жыл бұрын
soorrry i am 500 mmr to understand it xDDDD
@rd2master832
@rd2master832 3 жыл бұрын
#BSJ HOW TO PLAY AS PA VS OGRE AND VENOM I GET DESTROYED MY OFFLANER DONT COME MY MID WAS GANk once kill both but i cannot laně Vs these cancers so i should leave ?
@deadwinglullaby
@deadwinglullaby 3 жыл бұрын
I'm in the debs guild POGGIES
@Janwinkelmann0202
@Janwinkelmann0202 3 жыл бұрын
How to play like the Best Carries in the World? Avoid russians that refuse to speak english in your games and instantly steam-report them for alot of stuff.
@zaslayer
@zaslayer 3 жыл бұрын
Glyph is my 5th ability literally on T
@d3vi7_insid3
@d3vi7_insid3 3 жыл бұрын
bsj is the best coach but i cant pay him to coach me 😭😭 pls make more videos of safe lane and how to counter their offlane heroes
@gorebello
@gorebello 3 жыл бұрын
CREEPS! CREEPS! CREEPS!
@ARES-CodM143
@ARES-CodM143 3 жыл бұрын
"Im only 8.8 " Lol im like really?? I thought he was 8800+mmr
@BB8enjoyer
@BB8enjoyer 3 жыл бұрын
Gg go next he said! XD
@gustavopedrini
@gustavopedrini 3 жыл бұрын
bsj is such an acid person, I wonder if dota did this to him or if hes the one who's done it to dota
@pcxxy
@pcxxy 3 жыл бұрын
nice
@thecookies6109
@thecookies6109 3 жыл бұрын
@1:10:32
@tenzingsherpa5511
@tenzingsherpa5511 3 жыл бұрын
para para
@GeryRydell
@GeryRydell 3 жыл бұрын
30:30 Smurfing literally destroys the gaming experience for all lowbobs like me... it is not fun, and if you wanna learn, play unranked...
@rwhooper9887
@rwhooper9887 3 жыл бұрын
You're missing the point... Yes, some people smurf to be trolls and roflstomp us noobs in weird ways, but what BSJ and other high level players do is different. They use their smurfs to practice different heroes/roles and genuinely try their best to win those games by playing normal dota. At that point their "smurf" has an accurate MMR for the heroes/roles they play, so they're not ruining anything for anyone.
@LucasMarodindepaiva
@LucasMarodindepaiva 3 жыл бұрын
Do this in a 3k mmr matchup where even your supports want to farm more than you lol
@leonardoleite1085
@leonardoleite1085 3 жыл бұрын
Then you have to forsee the move of 3 enemies instead of 2
@bazu6001
@bazu6001 3 жыл бұрын
@@leonardoleite1085 omg you nailed it!!!
@ivanramos6530
@ivanramos6530 3 жыл бұрын
Wow how is this guy 6k MMR if he cant answer bsj
@UnIucker
@UnIucker 3 жыл бұрын
Like bsj was saying, the guy farms fairly efficiently. he is doing a lot of things right, but he doesnt consider the enemy players. If he plays against anyone 3/4/5k the lane will look massively different to how it does now.
@bazu6001
@bazu6001 3 жыл бұрын
if you understand your hero and get the balance between farm/fighting, hey you are 6k now :))
@zishanahmedshaikh
@zishanahmedshaikh 3 жыл бұрын
first
@sepskifahrer9217
@sepskifahrer9217 3 жыл бұрын
Great content. but for the love of god end your sentences before you start a new one. Clearly you are thinking faster than you can speak.
@indicator27
@indicator27 3 жыл бұрын
the cooldown timing ... visible on screen when u asked reasons why waiting to acid spray was a bad idea @ 8:30 with his medium duration cooldown he cant use it on the final wave clash too late before the wave is under the tower or he wont have cooldown, kind of the same concept with waveclear spells like kotl, have to use early in the wave. as far as linking that to getting a feed kill from him under tower, the concepts match up edit: also he is wasting mana regen because he was full mana another reason to cast sooner tho i am not an alch player
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