How to Recoat Ruin Sublimation Tumblers by Sanding Painting and Coating with PolyGloss

[@atprints]

Watch how to compare a coated PolyGloss tile vs a prepared subllimation tile 👉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKS3fGiNjLWKgMU

[@debbiesmith6703]

🤩🤩🤩🤩thank you. I'm sure loving all this information your providing. And I'm going to try it! Thank-you so much🍾🍾cheers from Ontario Canada. Stay safe. Have a Blessed day🎈

[@atprints]

@@debbiesmith6703 thanks so much and I’m happy you are going to try it.

[@laurahobgood5606]

Well done and helpfull. One of the best videos I have ever watched.

[@atprints]

Thank you for your kind words. I appreciate your support.

[@ediecarver5333]

You are my new go to guy. Your tutorials are very detail and informative. Thanks

[@atprints]

Thanks very very much for your comment and support. It means a lot. I appreciate it.

[@meganguillorylee6905]

Using CitriStrip stripping gel removes and restores sublimation tumbler to stainless steel 😊

[@atprints]

Thanks for your comment and for the tips. Awesome.

[@Waylons2ndMama]

I have done this with some of my mess ups, what do you do after on the stainless steel? I also did this on a glass jar and it came off, but now nothing will sub on it

[@atprints]

@@Waylons2ndMama Can you give some more clarity on your process. I would love to assist as much as possible. You can also send me a message on Instagram @allan21thompson

[@bobbyboy1962]

one of the most in depth vids i have ever seen. Thank you

[@atprints]

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for your comment and support.

[@katherinesolberg4685]

Very good!!! Thank you for sharing! Nice job😊

[@atprints]

Thanks very much for your support and comment. I appreciate it a lot.

[@margaritaramos9485]

Thank you your great at teaching

[@atprints]

You are very welcome. I try my best. Thanks so much for the support.

[@Reag713]

I loved your video thank you ❤❤❤❤

[@atprints]

You are so welcome! Thanks for the support.

[@arethareynolds302]

I am new to sublimation. This was very helpful. Thank you

[@atprints]

You are most welcome and thanks for your support.

[@elizabethvallely4044]

Really enjoy your video as you explain it all in depth! Thank you so much for sharing it was awesome! Liz 😊

[@atprints]

You are most welcome. I enjoy going in depth to give viewers a great understanding and to possibly answer all questions before they are asked. Happy this video helped you.

[@debbiesmith6703]

Thak you🍾🍾🍾cheers from Ontario Canada. Love your info thanks Stay safe friend🥂

[@atprints]

Thanks so much for watching and also for your support. I truly appreciate it.

[@LovesHerEagles]

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you!! I've been searching for info like this! You are a lifesaver - appreciate your willingness to share!

[@atprints]

You are most welcome. I’m happy you got value.

[@paulachapin7081]

Thank you! I have several tumblers that are messed up and have been wondering how to fix them. Now I know. Not sure what method I’ll be using but I know, all ideas will work ❤

[@atprints]

Thanks for your comment and support. It's great to hear you got value and you have a plan forward to redo those tumblers.

[@jalisaclarke5086]

Great tutorial.. I love that you were very transparent and you are always willing to ensure others reap greater benefits and learn alot from these videos. The tumbler with the high heat paint really came out awesome. Keep it up Allan!!

[@atprints]

Thanks very much for your support and comment.

[@vikki92411]

The best how to sublimation video I’ve seen! Thank you so much! 😊

[@atprints]

You are most welcome.

[@sworley1956]

This is the best ever tutorial that I have seen to take messed up tumblers and refurbish them again you did such an excellent job showing step-by-step the imperfections that you did and what not to do. I was suggest not to use the type of brush that you use to apply the poly glass. I will use a smoother brush like the silicone brushes just to avoid any lines that may show but still apply two coats with silicone brush that will go on a lot smoother. Bravo!

[@atprints]

Thanks very much for your comment and support. Sometimes I get lucky with the brush and sometimes I don't. But good idea about using the silicone brushes.

[@marissastrang6848]

I love this video!!! I was going to try this on my own. I asked groups and nobody knew the answer!! I didn't even reach for this but I found it!! your awesome

[@atprints]

Thanks so much for your comment and support. I truly appreciate it and hope others can benefit from this video.

[@lisakirkendoll59]

Great video! Thank you for sharing.

[@atprints]

You are most welcome and have a wonderful day.

[@rodelpelo840]

Allan all of that can coated blank metal.

[@atprints]

Yes please, you can coat blank metal.

[@tracyseals3833]

This was excellent thank you.

[@atprints]

You are most welcome.

[@kaydavis8569]

Loved your tutorial! it helped so much! But would love to know how to do the same exact thing except on a ceramic mug!

[@atprints]

Thanks for your comment and support. Are you referring to a mug that already has a design on it? If you are referring to a plain mug here is a video to help - kzbin.info/www/bejne/i17cnnupr7OarpIsi=n-ve5rofwh6pAChr

[@amybarefoot271]

What would happen if you painted one with extreme heat and one with the 2x paint primer, not put the polly gloss on, but went ahead and sublimated? Would that work?

[@atprints]

Thanks for your question. So if you paint the tumbler with extreme heat or 2x paint primer the paint will stick to the tumbler which is good. However, the problem you will have is sublimating the tumbler. In order for a tumbler or stainless item or even if you want to turn an item into a sublimation product, the outside of the item must have that special coating that allows you to sublimate. In this case if you just use the paint, when you go to sublimate the tumbler you may see a little of the image on the white but will not bake in and will wash off in a flash. So this is why we would use the polygloss which would help. So you paint your tumblers, coat you them after with the polygloss, let them dry, bake them for a bit and then you can sublimate. I hope this answer helps.

[@STILLSWEET2]

hi, Please, if you haven't done so already, put in little fan in the area to help dispel the fumes from these products. great work!!!

[@atprints]

Thanks for your comment and advice. The area I work has a lot of windows to blow the fumes away. But very good advice when it comes to health or you can also use a mask to help.

[@eunicecolon7355]

You are awesome thank you so much for this video I learned alot!!! One question I use a tumbler presser what temperature you I use when I re-paint the tumblers

[@dtoc69]

I love this guy. So helpful

[@atprints]

Welcome 👍🏾

[@lianazambrana1387]

@allan Thompson can you do this process with glass and do you have to use polyglass or can I just use the high heat spray paint?

[@atprints]

I am working on a video where you can use this process to sublimate onto the glass. My process would be without paint but I can also create a video with and without paint. However, If you just use the spray paint, you wouldn't be able to sublimate onto it. Remember the polygloss is used as an add-on to help sublimate onto items that are not sublimatable. I hope this answer helps and feel free to ask more questions.

[@ashleypearl2751]

This is exactly what I was looking for, I truly appreciate you for making this video because i wanted to be able to recoat my tumblers to use for sublimation again. I almost gave up hope but you brought it back. I will just be using Citristrip before instead of sanding. Do you have any advice against using Citristrip?? Also, I am concerned about the amount of white spray paint thats going inside of the cup. Any suggestions to reduce this paint inside the cup?

[@atprints]

Thanks very much for your comment and your support. I am truly happy you got plenty of value from this video. In relation to using Citristrip, if it removes the paint, that's totally ok. I just chose to use the sanding method in the video but they are so many different types of paint removers that can work. So yes please, use the Citristrip. In relation to the concern about the paint inside the tumble. Try your best to fill up the tumbler with cloth or even paper and make sure it is covered at the top of the tumbler. You also have the option of using tape to cover the top of the tumbler. I hope this answer helps and feel free to ask more questions if you do have more.

[@ircather]

My question is, can I so this whole process without using an oven? I only have a heat press. Thanks you.

[@ircather]

So mainly my question is. Can I cure the polygloss flask using my heat press?

[@atprints]

Thanks for your question Yes you can once it’s a mug press.

[@atprints]

@@ircather please take a look at this video I did. Once it’s a mug press it would work for the flask. If it’s a heat press it wouldn’t work. See the video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYKqdIitqMmMg9Usi=LoqDcLb56HwD-9bH

[@ircather]

Great I just saw your other video on using the mug press to cure the flasks with polygloss. 👍👍 . So informative. That's a million!! I just subscribed also. 👍😊

[@atprints]

@@ircather thanks so much for your support and subscribing. It means a lot and goes a long way.

[@leanne7832]

Thank you. This is a great video! I have several tumblers that I need to resublimate

[@atprints]

You are welcome and feel free to message me on Instagram or Facebook so I can see your final results

[@leanne7832]

@@atprints I did my first tumbler yesterday. I didn’t paint it. I just added poly gloss to the silver tumbler. I used a brushed metal wrap & the name was done so that the name was the color of the tumbler (silver). I don’t have instagram or Facebook so don’t know how to share the picture. I love the way it turned out. This weekend I’m going to paint some white before adding the poly gloss

[@atprints]

@@leanne7832 I am very happy to hear of your success. You can email me some pictures [e-mail]

[@feleciashavers4358]

Could you just burn off the image via heat gun or oven, then spray with high heat paint? Then continue with your steps? If the tumbler image is faded to the highest point that it can fade off. Just curious if you would still need to take the tumbler to the stainless steel state.

[@atprints]

Thanks for your question. The method you mentioned could work but in my experience what I notice is that the oven takes forever with this process and the heat gun takes even longer. In addition, even if it's faded, what happens is when you apply the heat paint, sometimes the faded images start to arise back on the tumbler. So this is why I rather clean the entire tumbler and start fresh. Please bear in mind that different chemicals can be used to remove the old image. For me, at the time I preferred the machine.

[@joeflores1668]

Thanks a lot

[@atprints]

You are welcome.

[@V3RS4TIL3]

Hi, thanks for all the info. What's the grit you used to take off the paint and after did you use the 800 or 1200 for the final cleaning?

[@atprints]

Sorry for the delay I used a 60 Grit Sanding Disc with the machine and then the 1200 to get a smooth surface.

[@seniorklass3436]

The inside of the second tumbler looked as if it had darkness inside. What was that?

[@atprints]

Hi, Thanks for your question. I think it may be a shadow from the lighting but otherwise than that you can send me a picture of where exactly you see the darkness. My Instagram is @allan21thompson

[@mgb426]

Hi, so now that you did these tests, is it worth it to buy the white heat resistant spray paint or not? Just curious... If the regular qhite one is cheaper, is it worth spending a few more $$ for heat resistant spary paint? TIA

[@atprints]

Yes please, its worth purchasing the heat paint because it can withstand the heat when it comes to curing and also sublimating.

[@sweetdominicanbeauty]

Hi. I would not have thought to use a sander. Great idea. If I put my tumbler back in the press, would it help the sublimation ink to disappear? Also, I love your accent. Do you mind me asking where you are from? You sound like you are from the VI. lol

[@atprints]

Thanks for your comment and support. If you put it back in the press for a long time it might fade but I can't give you a full answer since I never tried that method before, however, if you want you can put it in the oven for 45 mins to 1 hour and the ink should fade.

[@atprints]

Sorry I realized that I did not answer the latter question. I am from Barbados.

[@sweetdominicanbeauty]

@@atprints thank you. I'm from St. Croix in the Virgin Islands.

[@atprints]

@@sweetdominicanbeauty Wonderful. Very happy to meet you.

[@ircather]

If I do cure in an oven do the tumblers need to be wrapped? I didn't see that part know the video. Thanks.

[@atprints]

Thanks for your question. The tumblers don’t need to be wrapped when they are curing. When you are sublimating the image onto them you can wrap the tumblers.

[@ircather]

Thanks again! 👍

[@atprints]

@@ircather you are welcome.

[@marcialynch8695]

I did your process, sanding, painting with Heat proof paint and let them cure for about 5 days. Today I applied the poly coat and it took the paint off the tumblers. I continued to apply and will dry and bake but if they do accept an image but it will have to be a dark, busy wrap to cover the lines in the paint. What did I do wrong?

[@atprints]

Thanks for your question, for commenting and sorry for the late response. It would be great if i can actually see how your final result came out so i can have a much better understand but i will surely breakdown the steps for you so you can try again. Step 1 - Sand the tumblers Step 2 - Try to use a sandpaper with a little more rough surface on the tumblers after you have fully sand them. What this will do is give the tumbler that ready done prepareness for the paint process. Step3 - Make sure to wash those tumblers with soap and get off any greese, oils or anything that would be on it and leave to dry. Step 4 - You can apply multiple coats of High Heat white paint. I would advise that you give each coat 30 - 45 min gaps to dry before applying another coat. Once your tumbler has been coated with the High Heat paint and has dried we can move to the next step. Step 5 - Mix you polygloss solution and make sure that you mix it the correct way. Step 6 - Apply the polygloss to the tumbler, you can use a paint brush, spounge or silicon brushes. You want to make sure that when you are apply the polygloss with a brush that you gently apply it onto the tumbler in one motion. This part is very important. Refrain from painting the polygloss back and forth or left and right but in one motion from top to bottom and turn the tumbler until it is fully coated. Once it has been coated, make sure to allow it to dry on its own and look for streaks in the tumbler. If you are seeing streaks it means that you may have put too much pressure on the brush when you were applying the polygloss. Step 7 - After it has dried on its own, you can take a second look at the tumbler to see if you missed any spots and if so you can give a second coating and follow the steps from above. Step 8 - You can cure the tumbler in the oven or in your mug press. With the oven use 320F for 10 mins but you have to monitor it, so the tumbler doesnt discolor. To play it safe check it every 2-5 minutes. With the mug press you can use 320F for 3 minutes with parchment paper and light pressure. Step 9: Allow the tumbler to cool on its own, then apply your design to the tumbler and place it in the oven for 350-380F for 5minutes to bake. Step 10: Remove from oven after the time has past and take a peek to see if the ink started to transfer onto the tumbler before fully taking off the paper. I know the process maybe long but once you follow step by step and you practice, it will become natural. Important points to look out for is the temperature when applying the polygloss as you want to make sure outside is not to cold. Also to avoid streaks on your tumbler by using one montion. May sure to check the tumbler while it is curing so it does discolor. If the polygloss is left in the oven to long it will discolor. I hope this helps and feel free to write me if you need anymore help or have any more questions.

[@orvillemoore6641]

how do you avoid getting streaks when coating with poly gloss?

[@atprints]

Thanks for your question. The best way to avoid streaks on your items is to dip your brush or sponge into the Polygloss but when you are applying it to the item make sure to gently pass it over the item. If you apply too much pressure then there is the possibility that you will incur streaks. Another way that can work is to allow the item to sit after coating for 10 mins, then bake it in an oven or mug press.

[@marlafoster8249]

I'm still struggling with the streaks even after leaving for 10minutes. Is there a special type of brush I can use? Would it help to use a tumbler spinner? Can you use hands?

[@gjorn1988]

The PolyGloss made the paint come off when I applied it on the tumbler. What am I doing wrong???

[@atprints]

Thanks for reaching out. What kind of paint did you use and how long did you bake the tumbler for? Feel free to reach out to me on Instagram @allan21thompson and send me pictures so I can help.

[@CreationsbyDESign]

Can I ask? If you sublimated and like the design but after removing the paper it's now dull, can you use poly gloss on top of a design? Thanks!

[@atprints]

Thanks for your question. If you sublimate a tumbler that came prepare for sublimation and it came out faded, and you want to re-sublimate it then the best thing to do is to either put it back in the oven for 45 minutes to 1 hour and let it bake until the design fades or you can sand it down, paint it, then apply the Polygloss after. But if you are saying that when it comes out of the oven and faded and you want to just put Polygloss to sublimate again it wouldn't work. It's a process and the tumbler would have to have that white base background first. I hope this answer helps.

[@medicsteele]

Thank you very well presented and informative. One question, would paint remover work better than sanding?

[@atprints]

Thanks for your comment and support. Yes please paint remover can work. I just choose to use the sanding method.

[@apriljones5590]

Won’t it start a fire to sublimate after sprayed w paint

[@atprints]

No please, it wouldn't start a fire. Heat-resistant paint is made for heat and can withstand high temperatures.

[@tanyakerr6392]

What did you spray at the end of the sublumation. Did you coat it to prevent fading?

[@atprints]

Thanks for your questions I sprayed a clear finish to help protect the paint and the sublimation.

[@sworley1956]

@@atprints what was the name of that clear finish?

[@sworley1956]

Lol You gave me a heart on my question but you didn't answer it

[@atprints]

@@sworley1956 the name is Rust-Oleum Semi-Gloss Clear and here is the link amzn.to/3Hejaey

[@atprints]

@@sworley1956 Lol i normally heart and like and then answer after lol.

[@MissHollywoodsPage32]

What type of brush are you using

[@atprints]

The type that I am using doesn't have a branded name but it's 1.5" and 38.1.mm.

[@reginahardaway7454]

What grit sandpaper did you use?

[@atprints]

Thanks for your question. For the first second of the video where I used my hand to sand the tumbler the grit sandpaper was 600 and 1200. However, when i used the machine it was a 60 Grit Sanding Disc.

[@tanyakerr6392]

To make it easier...you could place the tumbler in the oven at 400 for an hour that would release the original image..you wouldnt need to sand. You could also resublimate over the image after it is faded. I havnt had a lot of luck with polygloss after a while the image fades even after curing it fir the right time

[@atprints]

Thanks very much for your comments. Yes I do know about leaving the tumbler for a long time in the oven but in this video I was showing another way for those who may not have an oven or for those who may have more time and rather sand off and use that method. However your comments are indeed correct and true and persons who are reading the comments can definitely benefit from them. Polygloss is a process and I find you have to be very careful with it. Since I used it until now none of my items faded. I believe if you expose them to Sun after a while they might fade. I have some other videos on polygloss I’m not sure you saw them but if you do get a chance you can check them out and tell me what you think.

[@devangwolf]

Can we remove Sublimation printing from a coffee.mug using paint stripper??

[@atprints]

You can try but I am not a 100% sure.

[@keyshots4u2]

Is PolyGloss the same as Epoxy? I am new to sublimating and I have messed up about 5 tumblers that I need to repair?

[@atprints]

Thanks for your question. Polygloss and Epoxy are different. Which Polygloss you can coat it onto the tumbler, cure it and print an image onto it. When using Epoxy you can put like stickers or glitter on the tumbler and then use the epoxy to cover your work. So in other words the epoxy is like a protective sealant.

[@lisalewis8899]

can the poly gloss be found here?

[@atprints]

Thanks for your question. I am honestly not sure which country you are in, so you would have to disclose that information so i can assist you. However, the company is located in Scottsdale, AZ 85254 and here is a link to there direct page bit.ly/3CYZqu1. They also ship the product to you if needed. I hope this helps.

[@lesanderson2791]

Sorry not resin I have ordered the dye poly gloss you were using very expensive but I saw it worked

[@atprints]

Great. It really does work and is a game changer.

[@leanne7832]

I cheated, I decided to try using Citristrip instead of sanding the tumbler. Painted it on, wrapped in foil and left for hours. I left some wrapped up over night. You can tell when they are ready to be washed off because the paint bubbles up and and is litterly sliding off and you can see the metal tumbler. I still haven't had a chance to spray paint because of the weather.

[@atprints]

Thanks for your comment. I wouldn't say you cheated, it's another way to speed up the process so great idea. In this video, I did the sanding method but you can also use paint remover, the brush-on version, or the spray-on version. So there are so many different ways you can remove paint and I am happy that you found a great method. I hope to hear and see some of your results when they are finished. You can email me or message me on Instagram.

[@Waylons2ndMama]

what are you going to be spraying on them to sub them?

[@michellehill367]

So I noticed that some of my images where faded and we have the same oven so my temperature is too high and my time is too long thanks for making this video you're fabulous

[@Dolla362]

Tried this method and it doesn’t work, my paint melts and everything comes off

[@atprints]

You should probably take a look at the about of heat you are applying to the tumblers.

[@Dolla362]

180 degrees in a mug press

[@Dolla362]

How long did you let the paint set before you sublimated?

[@atprints]

@@Dolla362 I did for 1-2 hours. On other test off screen I left it for 24 hours. Once the paint is cured properly you are good to go.

[@atprints]

@@Dolla362you can take a look at my other video where I used the mug press.

[@LanceMcGrew]

So bottom line just throw the mistakes away and start with new? Seems like it costs more time and money than it is worth.

[@jabtdesignengraving6132]

Next time if you want to remove the paint, use goof off.. like magic the paint comes off returning the tumbler to its original messed up sub form

[@devangwolf]

Hello brother

[@atprints]

Hello

[@MeredythJoe]

I’m 8 mins into the video, and I feel like at that point, you’ve spent more on spray print, spray primer, & the sand paper than you would have spent on just buying new tumbler blanks, and that’s not including the cost of the poly covering.

[@diannebrinker9883]

Love your tutorials, but maybe a little less talking and repeating the same things over an over.

[@atprints]

Thanks for your comment and support.