How To Repair A P1298 Electric Load detector code on A Honda

[@65elcamino283]

This is EXACTLY what i needed to see. This P1298 code is the last of the bugs i've been chasing down on this car. First it was a crank position sensor, then the idle control valve, and now this P1298 is the last code to fix on this car so i can smog it and register it. Thank you for the detailed and informative video. Much appreciated!

[@jimthecarguy]

I'm happy to help. Thank you for watching.

[@Peelerusa]

Thank you for the great video, Jim. As usual, a great walk thru that saved us lots of aggravation and money. I spent more time driving to the dealer to get the part then it took to actually replace it. In my case, this one part took care of two trouble codes: P1293 fir the ELD and P1457 Evap canister leak. Be sure to call several Honda dealers for pricing, because they all charge what ever they want. My two local dealers were $30 apart in pricing, and I was able to purchase for $51.00. (I needed it fast otherwise I would have ordered online for less.)

[@LongTimeTTFan]

Thanks a lot. Very clear explanation. Detailed demonstration of the whole procedure. Good camera angle. Good lighting. Top notch video, as always.

[@jimthecarguy]

+LongTimeTTFan Thank you for your feedback

[@josedejesus6185]

Excellent, excellent tutorial! Step by step, how to do it! This is what I was looking for! Thank you very much! Now I can fix my 2007 Fit! 👏👏👏👏👏

[@aznnp77]

Thanks so much Jim! I was having a rough idle, especially with the AC on. I would get random fluctuations in RPM, car felt bogged down, and idle surges at traffic lights. I didn't have a check engine light, but I ran the code scanner anyways. Pulled up a P1298 somehow and the electrical load detector came up on google. Grabbed one from the dealer, and with the help of your video, had it changed in no time. I pulled the fuse and reset the ECU, drove it around the block, and the idle surge seemed to have stopped. When I got back I checked the code and it was no longer there. Hope that was the ultimate issue and my car starts running well after my ECU relearns my driving habits.

[@jimthecarguy]

Thank you for watching and your input

[@blackprelude1]

aznnp77 had the same problem with my 02 crv was idling high coming to stops or shifting gears .thought it was the iacv.no check engine light but ran codes and pulled that up replaced and fixed the problem runs cherry as can be now

[@jimthecarguy]

Thank you for your input and for watchung

[@alazanjoe]

Stuck on this same issue thank you for the video you learn something everyday

[@fredosauce5165]

Currently at AutoZone swapping out the old one for a new one thanks for the video

[@Ashursardan]

Performed the repair according to your demonstration. Super helpful! Thank you!

[@eastcoastmostwanted710]

My God bless the engineer of this car

[@Sedonalegendhelenfrye]

Great post Jim, I so wish my 2001 Honda Civic EX 5 speed manual was this easy, I'm being told that I need to replace the entire fusebox as the ELD cannot be removed for my model. Wish somehow I could get around that, as $270.00 is a lot of money to pay for such a small part. My code reader shows the ELD, and the car has developed the dreaded searching 'up and down' idle. By the way my engine compartment is so 'like new' compared to the car you serviced. LOL! Thanks for the excellent video.

[@jimthecarguy]

Thank you .Merry Christmas

[@jeffallen6459]

My dealer said the same thing about needing to supposedly replace the whole fuse box but he said the ELD from as CRV will work in a civic as the part numbers were the same. So I used the crv part in my civic and it works fine. HTH

[@luishulkrikan3692]

THANK YOU!!! I saw another vid but they suck in detail but with this vid i was able to fix my car in less 30min.. 🍻🍻

[@jimthecarguy]

Thanks for watching

[@feeneysmechanical6215]

Thanks Jim for another awesome video. I learned something new about Honda's because I don't know much about them because I don't work on them a lot. Thanks again.

[@jimthecarguy]

+GREG Feeney Thank you for watching and your feedback.

[@feeneysmechanical6215]

Your welcome

[@bobm549]

nice vid, I have a 2000 civic showing this code and a P0700 and car and trans are going crazy.

[@joellord65]

I’m having intermittent battery light on 07 odyssey. Alternator is good, battery good and belt is good. I was going to change the ELD but the Honda dealership told me I’d have to buy entire fuse box. They didn’t sell the ELD separately.

[@joelunchboxx]

Great info. Part nos would be nice. Local Honda dealer had bupkus for info.

[@gabrielpesima2389]

You did a good job the only problem you disconnect the negative always disconnect the power one you never know if the negative will touch metal and gets grounded thank you. you did a good job

[@elgatogordo9523]

Thank you for your informative video. Will this procedure be similar for a 98 Honda Odyssey?

[@1mw4tch1ng]

Not sure if I heard correctly, did you say the car will overheat if driving for a long time while the thermostat is stuck open? I would think will will be fine stuck open but the issue when cold in the morning will take a while for the engine to reach normal operating temp.

[@1mw4tch1ng]

how is the car overheat when the thermostat is stuck open? in fact will take a while to heat up to normal temp when cold and will slightly run cooler since there is no controling the temp.

[@tylermelodia3116]

Is this the same thing for a 1998 acura CL 2.3? I have this and a VVT switch that popped up and the switch will be done by acura but this seems straight forward

[@jimthecarguy]

Ok I will keep that in mind thank you

[@jimthecarguy]

I get it at the dealership (under $50) and ask for an electronic load detector.

[@michaelparkes155]

Very helpful. Great vid. Cheers

[@joelmccoin9727]

Thanks Jim, always learn something from you.

[@jimthecarguy]

joel mccoin Thank you for watching and your feedback.Jim

[@joandelacruz4683]

please help my honda accord 2006 has problem; while driving at night my dashboard with the rpm and speedometer, headlights, radio turning on and off repeatedly for 2 to 3 seconds eratically especially when i hit pot hole. could it be bad ELD? I already checked the alternator and battery and its all good. Checked the grounds also and its fine. Please help!!! thanks

[@StagArmslower]

My friend's Honda Civic 2006 got code P1298 and the fuse box looks like one in the video. I noticed also that battery is being charged at idle 14.2 volts. Is there a connection to bad load detector? Great video, thanks

[@gianfrancoa]

Thanks for the video. Interesting to see how car manufacturers deal with this kind of issues. So it's known there is an issue with the ELD on the car, they issue a TSB but still the owner has to pay for the parts and labor to get this fixed. I'm wonder when something is considered Recall and when is TSB.

[@jimthecarguy]

gianfrancoa Thanks for watching and your feedback.Ya if your out of warranty the TSB says "Out of warranty: Any repair performed after warranty expiration may be eligible for goodwill consideration by the District Parts and Service Manager or your Zone Office. You must request consideration, and get a decision, before starting work."

[@jgizzy]

Not everything becomes a recall, in fact most issues do not. A TSB is a technical service bulletin, which are created when a more common issue/concern/fault is associated with a car. The primary reason for these bulletins is to assist repair technicians in more quickly finding and understanding the issue like: where to look for the fault, what the symptoms are, what causes it, how can it be fixed. It's to make techs diagnose and repair more quickly and consistently. Most good techs will read through as many TSBs as possible, sort of like doing homework. But what a TSB is not, is an admission of 'bad design' or a free repair campaign for the issue. Though some TSBs will talk about repair for free if under warranty or consideration for 'goodwill gesture' in which the manufacturer may pay some percentage of it or even all of it, at their discretion.

[@ColinWilson-nk7ug]

is it the same process for 2006 Honda accord

[@arod31085]

Will this work for a 2001 honda accord 2.3l i have this issues same p-code my lights they dimm from time to time and I feel like a electric load change

[@RULAS41306]

hello my car has a code p1298 and p0420 it came on after I was "racing" a friend which I never do I was going kind of fast and a couple days before that I jump started my truck I'm just curious been trying to diagnose before going out and buying a new catalyst converter ,what do you think?, thank you for your time

[@jimthecarguy]

If the light was not on you should just clear the code and see if it come back on.Is there any exhaust leaks ?

[@jimthecarguy]

If the light was not on you should just clear the code and see if it come back on.Is there any exhaust leaks ?

[@scottthompson6729]

RU

[@bruceguzzi4942]

my 2001 civic came up with code P1298 but does not indicate ELD, but "Manufacturers control fuel air metering" also code P0128 coolant below thermostat temp. Are these codes the same

[@2tonetommy998]

Thank you for that info that helps me out with one problem in my car another problem is the Vtec solenoid would that interfere with that and cause it to kick on and and back off and it smokes real bad and burning oil. I have a 2003 Honda Civic EX 1.7

[@nic9131]

How many miles do you have on it??

[@jonerpills]

I have an 09 Civic si. I’m unable to remove the fuse box housing because it’s factory zip tied to some sort of hose full of cables. I don’t even think if I cut the zip tie I’d have enough slack to invert the box. I can’t find any videos to confirm that my generation of Civic even uses the ELD like these earlier models. Any ideas?

[@lily.4377]

How much does NAPA charge for this job I have a 1997 Honda and I was wondering

[@davef5208]

would that cause a rough idle, cut off sometimes, and be really sluggish, like if the cat was clogged?

[@jimthecarguy]

No not likely. Did you scan the car for codes? Watch for the next free tool giveaway coming soon.

[@federberer3681]

Yes

[@josesalas1045]

Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge 👍

[@jimthecarguy]

Glad it was helpful!

[@201950201950]

Thank you now I know how to take the fuse box off.

[@jimthecarguy]

Thanks for watching

[@adamhonda98]

Can this cause the A/C to not detect me turning it on because this is the only code I have and if I bypass the switch it works perfectly

[@Aviador1010]

Question: Would a bad ELD cause my 2009 Honda Accord headlights to flicker/pulse?

[@jimthecarguy]

Yes it is possible. Did you check the output of the alternator

[@Aviador1010]

jimthecarguy..Hi Jim..Yes I checked the Battery and Alternator.I also had a Parts Store checked them and they all checked good. I went as far as cleaning the ground-wires and all lights still flicker. I also noticed the belt tensioner moving quite a bit and the two arrows on the tensioner do not aling. Could this be the reason for all the lights to flicker??? Thank u again.

[@jimthecarguy]

@@Aviador1010 When you check the charging of the battery what is the voltage and does it stay steady.

[@Aviador1010]

jimthecarguy the voltage is mostly steady at 14.9 but it drops momentarily to 13.0 when the A/C clutch kicks in. Just for a second tho.

[@antoniogonzalez8507]

Very good video and explanations of symptoms!!

[@jimthecarguy]

+Antonio Gonzalez I hope I was helpful.Thanks for watching and your feedback.

[@antoniogonzalez8507]

+jimthecarguy Check this case, I have the same car on the video and also the same problem of P1298 and over heating. I'm surprise because it's rare both problem show up at same time when I don't see relation between them. The over heating problem was fixed by flushing dirty coolant and changed the thermostat. Again thanks for the video.

[@jimthecarguy]

+Antonio Gonzalez I'm happy to help.

[@TBKwolfwolf10]

I have a 96 acura integra that was a JDM B20B enging swap and i have the code P1298 but heres the catch my under the hood fuse box doesnt have the so called ELD and now im at a stand still any ideas?

[@Mike-tr6km]

That darn plug was a pain to line up. Finally done though!

[@woody_2245]

Ok so I've researched dim lights but only on low beams n it says to replace this fuse or load detector...not sure if this will fix this issue or not ugh any words of wisdom? Have u dealt with this issue in Honda Elements by chance?

[@LuisGLenero1369]

I have changed two times the O2 sensors, and after a while, one or two months, the same code comes again, saying the sensor 1 high voltage problem. What should I do or check about this? I ask you about this, because I see how clear you talk about this issues. My car is a Honda CRV 1999.

[@eduardozavala91]

Did u ever figure out the problem

[@thedominican829]

I have a honda civic 01, codes p1298 and p1259 came on. I replaced the ELD and the Vtec selenoids and fix a few oil leaks. However the codes came back

[@johnbatten8689]

hi wilkin minaya did you finally fix these issues as I have the same codes and issues on my Honda crv 2002

[@thedominican829]

John Batten I fix the code p1298 by cleaning the plugs under the fuxe box and the p1259, I havent fix that code yet but since my car is misfiring and I have tried everything, the. Ext thing will be to check the timing on the car since all those problems started afted a headgasket replacement

[@indigo_dreamz]

How do you know when it's rhe detector verses the alternator

[@jjreal9910]

I have a 2012 Honda Civic Si, How hard would it be to show how to run a bypass on the ELD? I have a huge sound system with a auxiliary battery in the trunk. The ELD is preventing the alternator from outputting and staying in the higher current mode when I need it too. I also upgraded to a High amp alternator (Ohio Generator) but it doesn't matter if it pumps out 1000 amps the ELD still cuts it to 12 volts in order to save on gas mileage. The ELD is such a pain for people with large sound systems in their cars. I just want to run it old school, but with a switch so I can manually turn it back to "Gas Savings Normal" when I'm transporting the elderly.

[@federberer3681]

Lol

[@texmex8615]

Nice video, I have a 97 prelude with charging issues, a new battery has been installed and the alternator was rebuilt and tested fine afterwards off the car. When I turn on car it starts at 14.1 volts then slowly just draws the battery down, when electrical load is applied it reads about 13.5 and eventually the battery light and E brake light on gauge will illuminate. I cleaned up the grounding points and checked cables for excessive resistance and even tried my obd 1 ECU to see if that could be the problem, same results occured. No CEL light has came on but do you still think this could be the cause and not allowing ecu to send the signal to alternator? I am still going to remove and visually check it meanwhile. Do you have any other suggestions, thanks in advance.

[@monster1176]

Tex Mex 86 was this the problem. I have the same problem with my 01 integra

[@repeatman]

You have a bad alternator. I have had this occur when I installed a "New" Aftermarket alternator and I got "13.33 Volts" when I first started it and as It kept running the voltage went down as low as 12.22 volts. Swap alt, with another one and problem solved.

[@allanpitargue2006]

repeatman I don’t believe this is true cuz I am having the same issues I am not getting 14 volts when my car is runnin and if I keep my car on it slowly goes down in volts and I brought my car to Honda dealership a few days ago and they said it was a bad alternator and that I shouldn’t use an aftermarket one so I buy a used oem alternator out of the same accord I Own and change the battery terminals and it didn’t fix anything at all so at this point I’m going to install a new eld but I don’t know what else it could be. I’ve installed 3 alternators from autozone and then a day ago a used oem from junk yard that came from the same year make and model installed it and still not getting 13 or 14 volts at all and just slowly drains my battery while the car is running

[@iketheranter9126]

Jim, CRV has gone crazy. Brake lights won't go out, numerous gremlins all over car, some things work, then don't. All electrical 1st gen CRV, early 2000-2003. Any ideas? Could this thing be the problem?? Thanks..

[@jgizzy]

Find as many ground points as possible and inspect and clean them. Many times single ground points have up to 6 wires going to it and so one bad ground can cause a lot of electrical issues from seemingly unrelated systems.

[@Javi-od3gg]

I can’t found it on Honda odyssey 2005 where should be that relay

[@martinarrieta7779]

nissan murano 2006 3,5 code p0021 what do you recomend to fix it

[@bryanlamontagne2914]

Hey Jim, just curious, how would the car overheat if the thermostat is stuck open? I thought that would just make the engine run cooler never reaching operating temperature, but would overheat if the thermostat were stuck closed. Thanks in advance.

[@jimthecarguy]

Actually if the thermostat is stuck open the coolant will just circulate and get hotter .The thermostat when it closes will hold the coolant in the radiator for a short time to cool it down and then when the thermostat opens the cooler anti with exchange for the hotter coolant.

[@Echopoet233]

I'm having trouble taking the the eld of I'm pushing the little latch but it's not wanting to come off

[@jimthecarguy]

Horacio Ulloa The plastic has dried out, if you use a small screwdriver to assist it will help get the clip out.

[@rudymaldonado6620]

i have a 1998 honda civic. the p1298 code comes out on the car scan and i need a new eld but i cant find one for a 98. will a 2001-2005 honda eld fit in the 98 fuse box?

[@jimthecarguy]

+Rudy Maldonado The best thing to do is call the dealer and ask them

[@kavindasudesh7049]

i have replace the ELD,ECU ,FUSE box but still CEL 20 is showing .please help me

[@jaimeherrera9464]

hey i have the same code on my 99 civic but i did replace twice and i still have the same problem ? any thought

[@KrookedMob]

Can that cause the car to keep dieing even after new battery and alternator

[@SuperChef1990]

Thank you so much

[@luciaflores5835]

Hello this problem affected for smog check?

[@jimthecarguy]

Thanks for watching.

[@juanjo9318]

Hi, I have a problem with my honda civic 2001, when I start the engine and turn on the air conditioning the lights on my dashboard go down, I thought it was the alternator, but I changed it for a new one and the problem still remains. I put the scanner and me Came out the code p1298. What do you think the problem is?

[@loganjohnson1638]

Did you ever figure it out man?

[@asadsafdar5860]

Hello Sir iam Asad from Pakistan I watch your videos I want to know i have Honda civic 98 D15B NON-VTEC automatic transmission what is the stock setting of Trimport (ELD ) accurate Setting Which is given by Company manufacturer waiting for your Love Thanx

[@Stronger2gether]

Could the cause of this is the battery? I got the same code on my car and the engine light is on? If I was to get this done does the code have to be clear although the engine light goes off after?

[@jimthecarguy]

No it is not the battery. After the repair the code should be cleared out.Thank you for watching . I'm happy to help. Don't forget to subscribe.

[@Stronger2gether]

@@jimthecarguy Thank you Jim for responding and for your help. Great video by the way very helpful!

[@BammaT65]

help - I have a 1995 Honda Odyssey. The engine is in great shape. The battery loses a charge. I have a check engine light codes 14 and 41. I have changed the alternator, I have changed the battery, changed the battery cables, checked the alternator belt and connector to the alternator. The car runs with a fully charged batter at around 14-13 volts. After running for about 3 hours with the lights and radio on it drops to 12.2 and then to 11.6. After another 2 hours the car dies. Voltage at battery once it dies 1.82 - any ideas - suggestions. I appreciate your help, I am lost!!!

[@jimthecarguy]

+Teresa Duran The codes that you have can not cause the charging problem.The 14 is for the air bag and the 41 is for a wheel speed sensor.To me it sounds like you have a bad alternator but you will need to have the charging system checked when the charging voltage is low.Keep me posted.Jim

[@MrAgsProd]

I have an Acura TL type s, with same p1298 codes, will this be the same fix for my vehicle

[@donhartwig6294]

i have a 03 honda crv 5 speed and after driving it for about 45 min if my rpm is over 3000 it takes away my gas power will slow me down from 70 to under 60 and then will not let me go faster then 60. can you help

[@jimthecarguy]

Did you scan the car for codes?

[@MBZXZ]

autozone sells this for $35 it’s called battery current sensor, i don’t know how good is the product but oem eld fails easily

[@davef6105]

Thank you.

[@harrells2012]

999q

[@Doodlebob626]

So i dont have a connector or even wires for the ELD what do i do in this situation

[@williamrivera1650]

I'm looking for that part for Honda Civic 99 or 2000

[@vincentsago4920]

Can you explain the Po652 "OBD"

[@dieahassan621]

I have the same code on a 2002 accord v6, but the part does not exist for this model and honda said to replace the entire fuse box. Is there a way to replace it or should I just got ahead and replace the whole box? Thanks for all the videos you post; very helpful.

[@Walterseay123]

I am having the same problem aith my 01 accord did you ever resolve this problem?

[@lbrown112989]

A p1298 in my 97 integra just showed up need help with this problem

[@TruckmonkeyT15]

Great video, Thanks!

[@jimthecarguy]

Thank you for watching . I'm happy to help. Don't forget to subscribe.

[@albertovillegas623]

Do you have to clear out the code? when u r done changing it

[@jimthecarguy]

+A.B Yes it is always a good idea to clean any codes.

[@ryanmendezz1524]

Is this gonna cease the overheating issue,,would I need a new thermostat after

[@feeneysmechanical6215]

Sorry for responding back so late. I am only a few hours west of ya. I am in buffalo.

[@gerrymcelyea6988]

What if its eld voltage low? And would it be the same on a 97 prelude

[@jimthecarguy]

Did you check the output of the alternator?

[@balloney2175]

I change mine but still that engine light and P1298 is still there... HELP!!!

[@ceftokes]

Just noticed you’re in the Bayonne area , I live in Jersey City was wondering if you can check my car out im having the same code issues

[@JT-bm5xu]

is there a way to clear the codes without the handheld device?

[@jimthecarguy]

Thank you for stopping by the shop.On some cars you can just remove the battery cable and that will clear the code

[@ckasprak22]

John Trankle go to your nearest auto part shop, they have the OBD diagnostic tool that will reset the code. For free.

[@Dank04]

Thanks!

[@ceftokes]

How much was the eld from Honda dealer ?

[@jimthecarguy]

It was not to expensive. I think $25.00-$35.00

[@pedrorodriguez2778]

HEY JIM MY SPEDOMETER DONT WORK COUD IT BE MY SPEED SENSOR LET ME KNOW THANKS JIM

[@jimthecarguy]

+Pedro Rodriguez Yes most likely it will be.

[@pedrorodriguez2778]

THANKS JIM

[@StrainLover420]

is this a coupe or sedan?

[@carmelolizards2350]

What is the part called?

[@TheJanda1231]

Good Video ! :-) Next time you can try with Dorman - OE Solutions Electronic Load Detector (601-019)

[@CaliLivin34]

J and A Auto & Truck Repair for a 98 Honda Civic ?

[@jgizzy]

Maytee, no your Civic does not have this sensor. The 601-019 ELD model fits newer Civics 2001-2005, and some other models

[@tshidisoking798]

my car don't have a pushplag for a ELD

[@feeneysmechanical6215]

Hey question are you in New York city?

[@jimthecarguy]

+GREG Feeney Sorry in New Jersey.Bayonne to be exact.Jim

[@jimthecarguy]

+GREG Feeney If I can help let me know.

[@parales03]

I switched that 1298 code and it’s still on.

[@JoshToldYah]

would this cause my car to not start?

[@jimthecarguy]

+Josh Breyette No usually this will not cause a problem starting.When you scan the car was there any other codes?What happens when you try to start the car?

[@JoshToldYah]

One day I was driving my Integra. It bogged then died. Every time I would start it, it would run for five seconds, then slowly decline then die, when I would try to give it gas to keep it running it would die quicker.

[@jimthecarguy]

+Josh Breyette It sound like you have a fuel problem.You will need to check the fuel pressure.

[@chiko691]

i have this code AVD 14-02 eld voltage high . 04 civic Will it be the same issue ?

[@ckasprak22]

chiko a Yes. Your electronic load dectector (ELD) is at fault, usually when these pop your O2 sensors go bad so keep that in mind

[@amadorosario-xs4zb]

can you share the part number please

[@jonathanlibreros1332]

@jimthecarguy Hey I have the same code on my 98 manual civic sedan but I did replace it 3 times and I still have the same problem it keep showing the same code? Any thoughts

[@bobbyd6680]

Did you clear out the codes before driving it and then rechecking for the code?

[@jonathanlibreros1332]

Yes I did

[@jonathanlibreros1332]

Yess I did and the check engine light was on again and telling me it was the p1298 and p0135 and p0141

[@joecasiano2449]

@@jonathanlibreros1332 Hey just got that same problem with my 99 civic manual. If you find out what it is help me out please!

[@jaimecudjoe100]

how to repair not change

[@ginoj.9057]

note: why cover the part # when u r showing us the new part from the dealer! do u have any idea the time we ALL can SAVE, if u just move your thumb out the way! lol sorry dude

[@mikelacoste9690]

Maybe close the door so we can hear you and not the damn traffic

[@paolaayala3260]

Why u covering the part number bozo

[@jimthecarguy]

NEXT TIME I MAKE A FREE VIDEO FOR YOU I WILL BE MORE CAREFUL BOZO!

[@dyccworkshop1271]

what function this ELD..

[@chiko691]

i have this code AVD 14-02 eld voltage high . 04 civic Will it be the same issue ?

[@jimthecarguy]

chiko a Yes it will be the same issue, it's very common in that car.

[@chiko691]

+jimthecarguy Thank you last question where u recomend to buy it autozone or dealer ship ? i what part do i ask for?

[@jimthecarguy]

chiko a The dealership is where I buy it (under $50). Ask for the electronic load detector.

[@chiko691]

+jimthecarguy thank u so much for the info and fast response like ;)

[@mikebanks2721]

Does this apply for a 2000 honda civic si??

[@jimthecarguy]

Yes. Thank you for watching . Don't forget to subscribe.