How to sound like SLEEP

[@hyperstimmed]

The price for that Matamp was actually much lower than I expected. There are brand new amps that cost more and aren't even rare

[@moonicproductions]

That's right, for instance the Matamp GT1 has gotten much more expensive over the years

[@IanHaghighat]

OTU! A friend of mine sent me this video and I’m like “oh shit, I know that guy!” I used to watch your videos all the time back on your old channel a decade ago, and the shootout you did against your brother’s amp is what made me ultimately decide on the AD30 all the way back in 2009. Anyway, killer video and I’m glad to see you’re still making videos!

[@moonicproductions]

Oh nice dude! The AD30 kicks ass and it's still in my main rig haha

[@moonicproductions]

If you want this tone, the ProCo RAT is without a doubt a great choice in my opinion. Here’s an affiliate link to the RAT if you want to get one (meaning if you buy it, I’ll get a small commission): www.thomann.de/fi/proco_rat2.htm?offid=1&affid=1741

[@drpibisback7680]

I swear by the Rat. It's the best pedal, makes even my crap Behringer Bass amp doom hard.

[@michaelorourke7032]

I have been chasing this tone for over a decade. You have nailed it and mastered the sound. Thank you for sharing the useful information. The Orange AD30 is next on my big purchase list.

[@RobbyKing]

It’s funny that it was only a couple years ago when people were still skeptical of the quality of modeled amps.

[@doomgeneration2674]

Make sure you get 8 hours of SLEEP a night.

[@paulstanley2194]

i have said it before, your stoner-matamp-orange tones are a benchmark !!

[@moonicproductions]

Thanks man!

[@Michael_666]

Therefore, it is important for circus companies and the performers themselves to take steps to prevent drug use and promote a healthy and safe working environment for all. This may include implementing drug and alcohol prevention programs, providing access to mental health resources and emotional support for performers, as well as a positive and supportive work environment.

[@K707OR30]

I watched this yesterday because I recently got an AD30. Which is a sick amp. Anyway today I was recommended to re-watch your left hand video. I remember watching it a few months ago. Point being: Not once while watching your AD30 video yesterday did I even notice your hand. Anyway just figured you might find that interesting.

[@wallofsheep5645]

You are awesome dude. Cheers.

[@captainnuggie1831]

I just noticed that you have your guitar upside down? quite the interesting way to play. Is it more comfortable for you that way?

[@zackmano]

I watched this whole video and I still can't sleep! 😮‍💨 But my guitar tone sounds like a jet engine so it's all good 🤘🏼

[@slctdmbntwrx]

Cheers man, I owe you a beer or something that's all I gotta say.

[@moose1689]

Could you do "How to sound like SOAD"?? I've found quite good Daron tones with amp sims, but would be interesting hear your recipe.

[@acidfebruary7693]

please make dopesmoker 1994 version! Such groovy and dirty riffs but such lo-fi

[@moonicproductions]

I love that version! I actually made a cover of it 10 years ago. I wonder if that still exists somewhere

[@acidfebruary7693]

@@moonicproductions thanks for your answer dude! Really like your content. Greetings from Russia

[@moonicproductions]

@@acidfebruary7693 Thanks man!

[@BSIII]

Early 94 version is my favorite. Pike's Green Matamp tone is insane

[@pissguzzler1404]

I really appreciate how direct you are about the info, like no rambling about histories or some product, just advice. Nailed the sound too.

[@clintgordon5488]

Dude I've been watching your videos on your other channell since day one. The progression of your work has been awesome to watch. I had your Kaiser band practice vids on heavy rotation way before the album dropped. This new channell is very cool and helpful. Question. What plug in suite do you use for guitar tones? I'm looking at buying something new and for the price it looks like amplitube 5 has the most variety for the price. Thoughts?

[@moonicproductions]

Thanks for watching throughout the years man, that's awesome! I've never used Amplitube, but I've heard a lot of good about it. I personally use Guitar Rig 5 for the tones : )

[@ChainsawSlammer1.3.8]

I think this man likes Orange amps.

[@stevesowerby3333]

Cool. I have a Schecter omen extreme through a Behringer superfuzz into the clean channel of a Blackstar combo amp. (Mid gain, fill volume, full mids 3/4 bass, 1/2 treble) It doesn't match that Classic Sleep sound but I like the noise it makes. And I reckon finding your own sound is important.

[@moonicproductions]

That sounds like an awesome setup and finding your own thing is definitely the key. I love Schecters and Blackstar also makes some very serious amps

[@Louzahsol]

Sweet, mine is a epiphone sg with dirty heshers and a bigsby. My amps are some old peavey 150watt 1x15’s and a envoy 110. Pedals are just a superfuzz, a vox wah and a tc rusty fuzz

[@moonicproductions]

@@Louzahsol Nice, I haven't tried the dirty heshers but I'm really digging the dragonauts

[@Louzahsol]

@@moonicproductions they hit really hard and they have a ton of low end. I really want to find a set of lace lifers though

[@Alexroberts666]

Ever since I saw the 'Sleep in a Box' (sunless Green 100) demo on your other channel I've been tone chasing the Stoner Doom sound - pretty life changing as I've now got an OR120+PPC412, Gibson Les Paul and a fuck tonne of pedals

[@moonicproductions]

Thanks for watching! Haha that's a very serious setup. I'd love to play the OR120 someday

[@BSIII]

That sunless green pedal is where I first found you, as well. Theyve rebranded that pedal as Sunless Cold Lands. I'm doing everything DI, and am using a Two Notes M Cab. I havent gotten a real amp, yet. I'm still getting good tone, but the Dopesmoker tone is tricky for my set up. I might try the Dunwich, though dunwich doesnt exist anymore. Another company is still making those pedals, I believe. It took me months, and timing, just to buy my Sunnless lol

[@akosbev7757]

@@BSIII Does it Doom now sells all of Nick's pedals, and they are all geared up for serious Doom tones. Prices are super fair, and no I have nothing to do with them.

[@furin121]

Watching this in one tab, ordering RAT on reverb in another. Damn you. edit, just saw the amazon link.. i'll show you some love brother.

[@moonicproductions]

Haha awesome, thanks so much for the support dude! Watch out, that thing might make your ceiling collapse.

[@r.edward5701]

Hilarious. Did the same thing

[@acoustov]

i fucking love this tone, i was already going to invest in getting some orange amps, looks like i'll be getting a rat and the big muff

[@TacticalHyena]

i remember you having dreads, attitude, and thick f-ing tone. sad to see the dreads are gone but glad everything else is still here

[@fuzzatface]

Impossible not to thank you, well done!

[@Michael_666]

Therefore, it is important for circus companies and the performers themselves to take steps to prevent drug use and promote a healthy and safe working environment for all. This may include implementing drug and alcohol prevention programs, providing access to mental health resources and emotional support for performers, as well as a positive and supportive work environment.

[@TheGrowingDead]

I had an or15 definitely get a sabbath distortion without even trying

[@philzviel5273]

This is such quality content for a nichè music genre... i love it!!!! Your advices are so haptic!

[@paradox7743]

spot on- ORANGE ROCKERVERB IS PURE FIRE. I got a few Gibson S G that bring me to God of thunder territory. Six string is fine. But I want the fuckin right bass tone. Using Music Man Erie ball Stingray n I'm running a Wampler RATSBANE direct and it sounds fuckin great but doesn't give you that sludgey Dragonaut bass tone. The Rat is great but doesn't have the versatility of the Ratsbane. I know that you went digital which s fine but to really nail the bass it looks like an early 70's Green Matamp is the answer. Also check out DEEP TRIP/ Fuzz second to none.

[@reneebear3641]

I doubt it’s really possible to sound anything close to Al without at least some kind of Ric

[@FalconTheMotorhead]

Hello, Otu! Thank you so much for the video ! You are a legend ! Best wishes from Russia !

[@moonicproductions]

Thanks so much!

[@iakovmarkov7448]

Great video and even greater tone. I've sold my amps a year ago and went completely digital ever since. Works very well for me since I live in appartment building. I'm using AmpliTube 5 - it has the Rat sim (called PROdrive) and AD30 sim too. I got reasonably close using your settings, love it! Out of curiosity - do you mind sharing what amp and pedal sim you used for your video?

[@moonicproductions]

I use Guitar Rig 5 and go with the Hotplex and Jump heads. Nice, I've never used AmpliTube before. It's awesome that those sims exist, I had no idea. Gotta do some digging!

[@piggybackride89]

Would be sweet to hear the amp alone, then with the pedal! Great video though!

[@sevynn3970]

The Rat is a killer pedal! I am actually using a rat with a tonex with OR120 capture. Will have to look for an AD30 or matamp capture.

[@oli__lange]

subscribed!

[@BigMuff75]

I guess, if you added another mic like the Royer 121 or RE20 for some more low end, this would slap.

[@jacobgroszmann9610]

Are you doing one for how to sound like kyuss

[@KomboAndy]

Here i am. With a strat bootleg from Yamaha, a EHX Big Muff and no fucks to give. (I have the time of my life)

[@ryel21]

Awesome tones as always! What ampsims and VSTs are you using for the digital sounds?

[@dervpool]

Amazing video. I've somehow managed to get really close using Marshall Valvestate 8100 100W head with a OP-Amp Big Muff. Weird setup but works amazing.

[@moonicproductions]

Thanks so much, sounds like a killer setup! The Op-Amp Big Muff is a beast

[@kalle3940]

You can also get a rat clone for under 30$ from harley benton, but you need to run it with a plug bc you cant use a battery with it.

[@christineblack4654]

great tone. I used to have that pedal and hated it lol I was more into metal. now I love stonner doom like the band Clouds taste satanic and many more. I got the fuzz way huge pickle somthing like that. lol I will try it out and see how it does.

[@user-sg6fb4ip5h]

Awesome vid! Thanks. Im gonna get a rat! Ive got a orange jim root head. Is it a good one for doing this?

[@moonicproductions]

Thanks, no prob! I'm not sure if I've tried the Jim Root one but I've heard it's excellent. I think I played the Dark Terror which rocks!

[@riothood]

weed dragon 5000))) where can I find this amp XD

[@SisterRose]

I ordered a Zoom G1x Four recently - been looking to get a new cheap multi effects for ages. Even the cheaper stuff will get you some good results, and the OR120 Sim on the Zoom is actually pretty good. I might get a real Rat to throw in front of it though. The Nux modelling is also really good - I have the Mighty Plug which is unfortunately somewhat Doomless, however it was recently updated with their higher end models and does have an *amazing* AC30 model - Green Lung actually use AC30s! The AD30 is basically Orange's take on the AC30, so with a bit of tweaking you might get surprisingly close. And of course the bigger Nux modellers have more suitable models.

[@RobbyKing]

What pickups are in your SG600?

[@chriskiefer7493]

You are now Doctor Sleep.

[@stephenbisbee3234]

Which RAT pedal are you using?

[@mike-i5u6b]

Thanks for letting me Know, Now I can Avoid them.🤣

[@thestarsarefadinx]

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[@moonicproductions]

Thanks!!

[@JackKapral]

Ok, now tell us how to get this tone virtually - tell us about plugins and so on :D

[@xxxslayedxxx]

Thanks for that mini-shout on the DA120. I think for a more straightforward approach RAT into an amp as you show it here or Russian muff into amp is probably a better approach than the DA120. Also good examples are like any of the Windhand records.

[@moonicproductions]

No prob man, I absolutely love the DA120 and it’s my main pedal to this day. Oh yeah, Windhand’s got some seriously killer tones

[@BSIII]

I am dying to get my hands on a da120

[@mr.spaceaids5379]

*me thinking this would be a tutorial about sleeping* .....i really need to sleep XD

[@moonicproductions]

Haha now that's a tutorial I'd need, I've gotta sleep too!

[@kpm6016]

Thats a cool hack 😀

[@moonicproductions]

Thanks!

[@MisanthropicOath]

Back in the mid 90s when I first started playing, I used a combo of the RAT and an Ibanez Thrash metal pedal and to this day my friend and I still regard that as basically the best distortion for metal we ever heard haha, even after 30 years of getting good gear. Rat pedals can really add a new layer on top of other distortions.

[@Zanzabar5]

Plus you have to be stoned or you will be too bored with the riffs you write.

[@alemarchitelli1866]

Hello, great tone! So you run the rat in a orange dirty channel but not cracked, I'm I right? Thank you!

[@ETA555]

Sound alot like corrosion of conformity

[@snapcult464]

Another great option is the Reeves custom 12 watt 1x12 combo. It’s basically a handmade Hiwatt.

[@kentelmore7871]

Well at least we know if Matt pike dies. We have a replacement

[@rockstarscat]

How about a Tone X capture of your amps?

[@Freakinsweet1234]

Hey man, I’m looking at buying a Matamp to achieve tone like this, would you recommend a GT1 for something like this? I’m a little skeptical since I’ll be playing it at home for the foreseeable future, but I know the MKii is switchable down to 25 watts so maybe it won’t be so bad.

[@Freakinsweet1234]

Thanks for the quick response!

[@dedballoons]

well it's just a lot of zzzzz's really isn't it?

[@Spoon8lld]

Any advice on getting the orange th30 to this tone?

[@majik_man]

Can some people recommend some other bands that sound like Sleep? I really fell in love with them when i heard em.

[@leemark63]

What kind of tuning? Drop D?

[@askoseppanen3779]

Well, I have 1970 Laney Supergroup 100watt, I have 1986 RAT and I have old Epi Les Paul and 4x12 cab with celestion 12G75🤔 I have selled nearly all my stuff and will sell these also. I have 60watt Laney klipp also and used to play those two amps with ab box, big muff, rat and two full stacks.. Was it loud, heck yeah😄

[@moonicproductions]

Now that's a monstrous setup, A/B:ing amps is destructive. I used to combine guitar and bass amps together with a zVex Fuzz Factory which was brutal!

[@rebelguy9487]

Isn't Laney what Iommi played back in the day?

[@askoseppanen3779]

@@rebelguy9487 yeah same amp

[@thomasjohnson7712]

Its easy to get that Sleep/stoner/doom tone...it really dont matter about the amp. I get the Sleep/Electric Wizard tone with my Rat and a little Fender Rumble practice bass amp and when using my main rig which is a Friedman Wildwood PT20 (Pink Taco).

[@IrishRepublican1922]

How man? Whats the best sort of eq for this? I find no matter what i noodle with on the amp it dosent sound great

[@Crankedamp779]

How about the Dark terror

[@eugeneslament20]

The Laney VC 30 reaches the dopesmoker tone with a Boss Blues Driver and a Boss DS-1. The Traynor Darkhorse 15 will also reach dopesmoker tones, especially with a RAT and used on it's "pure" circuit.

[@moonicproductions]

Nice, I've never tried the Laney VC 30 before!

[@eugeneslament20]

@@moonicproductions I've never tried the RAT with it, yet. You also don't need to run an overdrive and distortion together, but it does require that extra push.

[@moonicproductions]

@@eugeneslament20 For sure, I'll also punch in both my Dunwich DA120 and Fuzzlord FU-2 together. Makes the earth rattle!

[@rk28984]

Or just get a Laney AOR. The AOR channel sounds exactly like Sleep and I got mine for 300 bucks.

[@moonicproductions]

Nice! Yup, that one's a real goodie

[@poloniumsugarcube611]

Thanks man you are great 👍nice job thanks . You should check out my old band from years!!!!! Ago . The drummers left hand is the same as yours he ripps on the drums . Volplus , punchbag studio video Thanks again !

[@moonicproductions]

Thanks for watching man! Oh cool, that's awesome and killer music, I checked it out : )

[@marijuanian]

4:03 i want to look like this when on stage 😢

[@ushnicyuvnikof2748]

Just do Stoner! Your best at this!

[@dippitydooiseeu7926]

How would the rat fare on a fender amp

[@SirBoycie]

HX Stomp: Vermin distortion, Mandarin Rocker (Cali V30 with Dynamic 57 mic) with your settings sounds spot-on.

[@MrDonc78]

I've had quite a few orange amps, including a 74 or120. The or120 was the best but I think the ad series captures the 1st & 2nd position on the fac pretty closely but with more gain on tap. They're more Vox than Marshall and more Princeton than Deluxe imo. I have the ad140htc and ad200b. Couldn't be happier with them.

[@gibson2623]

They dont use a pro co rat at all....plus this is not a fuzz pedal either..... Anyway your tone is pretty cool dude ;).....Must be the amp doing the wizardry ;)

[@DemonDog444]

Total Cathedral vibes. FrOzEn RaPtUrE!

[@jjjjj1930]

Onko millanen kaula tuossa yamahassa 🙂

[@mountainpeakcloud8442]

Question for you. What do you think about the Sunn Life V3 pedal? Do you think it's worth it, or would be better to just get a RAT and an octave pedal?

[@perustimo]

high volume! no bs!

[@danielemella1758]

Uso il rat da un po' di anni..con il mio JCM 800 che amo sopra ogni cosa ❤️😇🐐!!!!!!!! HAIL DI'AUL 😈🐐. ❤️

[@JayandLiza]

Ok you got me. This video is 🔥. That tone is spot on...hitting that subscribe button now

[@RiffHarvester]

I first saw you in one of your demo videos for the Green 100 pedal from Sunless Effects. The funny thing is, I bought that pedal from Sunless Effects and they said it had been used in demos, so I think I may own that Green 100 pedal you used! (Unless you kept it, lol)

[@nocturnalsurf7021]

Bring on the Doooom! Hell yes! Loved Moonic for a while, may actually discuss some recording in the later future. Gotta do some stuff first.

[@bak1358]

I had a Frantone fuzz with an old 4x12 silverface combo that gave an almost identical tone. I loved that rig

[@12345Flipside]

Nice Sound! How loud you must play to get this sound...? Can i have it also with low volume in my rental apartment :-)

[@M43STR0_dnb]

On the original recording Matt used an mxr distortion plus which is itself a pretty cheap pedal

[@nirvana77811]

Awesome video, using a marshall jcm 2000 60w with a big muff OP Amp and it gets about the same sound you have, I might be looking into digital amp sim for recording, had no idea Matt used high mids, gonna have to try it out

[@mrpirra]

i need to get rat : D

[@moonicproductions]

Dude, the RAT rocks!!

[@mateuszdolinski4206]

I find it very difficult to fail a Sleep sound. Just select that fat gnarly neck pickup and you are set to go. Also important is to learn how to play in the style of Sleep. I find it the most important step, actually..

[@connordix1859]

I use a boss me-80 multi effects unit with a fuzz with a lot of lows and mids and i roll off the highs with a lot of reverb with a epiphone les Paul with stock pickups in drop c

[@inperf3ct]

So a RAT pedal was all I needed all this time.. huh. Interesting. But thank you!!

[@hyperstimmed]

Recently saw the AD30 combo with the dual cab for $900 Canadian wanted it so bad

[@dead_horse8913]

Holy mountain is better than dopesmoker- change my mind

[@sadasivam123]

How do we do it digitally. There's no other video that describes that. Your sound is great.

[@CaseyChristopher]

I have the AD30 head with the 2x12 as well. Also the Micro Terror. I have a variety of fuzzes but I do not have the Rat fuzz. I also use the M-audio interface with protools which I use with Amplitube and the orange amp pack. Emulation used to be blasphemy but now they sound really good so I use them quite a bit.

[@miska.1912]

Kiitos, Otu! I’ve been fan since your dreadlocks days!

[@hollunderboy]

thanks for doing what you do

[@khadesru]

did that setup in bias fx with mouse pedal and od30 amp, ye, that's exact that sound

[@buckethead1095]

MAY THE HOLY BONG BLESS YA FAM, FINALLY A GREAT TUTORIAL !!!

[@Slayer821]

I just made this setup on my HX Stomp and its sounds great.

[@praisethesunn6541]

Great video! I’m basically a jazz/blues guitarist who loves metal too. My set up is a strat into a Princeton reverb. On a total whim I decided to buy a Earthquaker Devices Acapulco Gold and a Rat pedal to see if I could get a doom sound out of my tiny amp.. and by god I did! The amp is so small that it sounds like it’s about to blow up which I think kind of works for this sound. It’s not THE sleep sound but it’s crazy how close I got just with the right pedals.