how to test and repair motorcycle CDI electronic ignition module coil system spark failure

In this video, I show you how to test and resolve Handa CID box module and coil issues related to an electronic ignition system spark failure. Sometimes it best of just upgrade to a more modern system. After riding this a bit more, Jake might want to convert it to a café racer or brat style custom bike - bad ass !
Video skits and parodies are for entertainment purposes only.

[@crate8293]

How to fix your ignition system. Step 1. Light the old one on fire. Step 2. Buy a new one.

[@IchibanMoto]

that's over-simplifying it a bit ;)

[@marko17190]

:D

[@jEDAKISS999theshogun]

step 3:piss on it

[@surajpatel4559]

Ichiban Moto .

[@wcjcnc]

I thought the same thing. Lol. You can see he broke the circuit board trying to pry it out. Then says, ummm, I see some rust I better, buy a new one. Need to change the name of the video. Lol

[@charbxcreation]

This videos feels like it comes from another dimension seriously: @02:10 "Make sure you don't heat it up too much. You don't wanna damage the fragile electronics" Proceeds to blazing it to hell. @02:25 "Now that the epoxy is off the circuit-board, I can carefully pry the board from the case" Proceeds to obliterate the circuit-board with a flat screwdriver Lmao

[@JosephSalas07]

don't heat it too much because of delicate electronics, the next shot you see is that it's on fire HAHAHA

[@michaelcluxton8057]

What is the part #to the boshe system u used

[@ronbrown9147]

michael cluxton did you find out the name of the part

[@janbradcaraan6951]

Joseph Christian Salas HAHAHAHAHA

[@rohanbansal2324]

LOL ikr

[@martyflint3849]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@edgarmejia3876]

We need a full tutorial for connecting that Bosch Ignition system, and where to find it, great video man, greetings from Mexico

[@workingclassandproud84]

Yes agreed , any links pkease got a xs 750 virago here with a knackerd igtion lol.

[@spencerbrown6325]

I’m wondering the same thing.

[@mikefennelly3310]

Me to im in uk can't find it anywhere here 😢

[@lornespry]

You gotta like it when there is no heming and hawing, boring waste-of-time blah blah - just economical narration that expressly applies to problem and solution. GOOD!

[@mitsuiworld]

Brilliant! Brightened up my afternoon no end. Thanks!

[@davesstuff1599]

That little Bluetooth test light is awesome..

[@advancednutritioninc908]

Amazing the guy can fix anything with a broken screwdriver and a small pair of vise grips! :)

[@tonycampbell9996]

Q

[@davidwilliamson9162]

So it’s now a points ignition

[@walterkersting6238]

@@davidwilliamson9162 yes, it fits in the case as shown and secured with screwdriver and vice grips.

[@PistNRods]

Bosch sure knows how to make some amazing parts.

[@IchibanMoto]

PistnRods those Germans make good stuff.... just look at the ShamWow !

[@dropembowman2720]

@@IchibanMoto was wondering if that could be used on a Honda shadow vt1100...

[@tomzeigler6432]

I liked that you gave it (6) 5 out of 5 Ichiban Moto stickers! You might have been a little high from the fumes after burning the potting compound.

[@nexpro6985]

@Ichiban Moto This reminds of when my buddy got stuck out in the desert with no sparks. Luckily I had one of those dollar store electronic cigarette lighters. We replaced the thumb button with one of my buddy's stainless crowns from his back tooth. Then using Nickletown assembly tape we got that sucker jammed just right in the spark plug hole. The piston would push on the lighter at just the right point to give a spark at BTDC. Couldn't have done it without inspiration from you dude.

[@martinrea8548]

Cool story, bro!

[@jasonludwick8634]

...this dude rocks! Love the baby vice grip shot (lol)...

[@nathanjenkins4011]

Had to come check out the comments on this one after watching this epic masterpiece. I need those tool skills and that magical screwdriver. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@randyelviss4801]

I have just subscribed and I realise that your wealth of knowledge and expertise is just what I have been missing in my at home repair work. thanks for taking the time to share your acumen and insight with all of us. Cheers and five Ichiban Motors stickers to you.

[@IchibanMoto]

+Randy Elviss yay ! stickers !

[@kunalmehta9857]

@@IchibanMoto can share a link of the bosch ignition system or a description and where we can find it

[@MrSuperpat]

Are those metric vice grips?

[@IchibanMoto]

of course. it's a Honda motorcycle

[@josephpettus3718]

That's hands down the best set of tools In service ,, I thinking the brand is "wrap-on" on that screw driver and this should be watched with the best you can get for free video tutorials.. the style of his Dis/And reassembling show what a master can achieve with years of knuckle busting

[@rtrmotorcycles]

These Videos are great. I LOL at every one! Great SOH!

[@billrussell7672]

+Daniel Hegarty im a master mechanic but we can be really stupid about humor now that I get ichy I dropped 40 pounds per square inch on my blood pressure

[@billcogneeto7286]

yeap this is the first time I have seen this and new its a joke. The use of tools? lol and throwing the cover on the floor. so much fun stuff going on.

[@barryrhyno3190]

thanks a million just installed one and it fired right up! very simple fix for no spark

[@tomwinney4977]

Where can u get it my honda dead too

[@jakobdavis93]

"Make sure not to heat it up too much..." Sets it on fire.

[@rapturedreamvision7205]

Holding the spark plug is a fine way to get a nice shock. You were lucky this time, Ichiban. On the bright side, the shock tells you it's working. Heck, you don't even need a spark plug when you test it that way. :) Yesterday I realized there are a couple of sets of points in my electrical box. They're going to stay there too. You never know. Also it is kind of an old times' sake thing.

[@morrisbjorkvallehrling6494]

those tools are so badass!

[@andramalmsteen4807]

You need to come to Indonesia then i will teach you how to modify it with cheaper CDI but you can still get a good result. This old motor bike is so easy to modify if you are in Indonesia, we did it many time just because so many customer come to the workshop but they still love this old motor bike so much then the new one.

[@bentonrodeheaver2596]

Andra, please tell me if you know all about ignitions. I have a honda cmx 250 twin motor that is going into an off road frame. I will not be using any of the wiring from the bike. I just want an ignition that will produce spark to both cylinders. Does this exist? If so, I will buy it. I have machining skills also so ignition that is close to size I can modify. Thank you.

[@richardc7516]

GORGEOUS ... You are really crazy. Love...

[@TrucksNRats]

Where did you find that new ignition system? I need one for a 1983 alt 125 and a 1982 sp125

[@cshopper1]

Love the tools!!!

[@Thehumbleguy]

I came here because i got honda rebel 125cc and it has no spark. Couldnt solve it myself. Sent it to shop they fixed it and it cost like 100 euros. In Latvia quite expensive since monthly AVG wage is about 500 eur. Then i run it for 1 day and it died again. Basically i turn it on it runs great and while warming up after 1 minute it died. And no spark. Then i took it to another shop and spent another 150 euros and it ran again. For a few days. Until same happened. I came in the morning to warm it up then it died. It's like it ate all the fuel from carb and died. But there is fuel. Thought it's cdi, but if cdi dies it stays dead. As much as i understand i took apart some stuff and checked wires and fuses. All good. (not 100% sure about wires) I am lost. Maybe you can help. P.S. Good luck with your channel! Subbed :)

[@jamofalltrades9527]

thank you for the upload

[@hiturbo1918]

Step by step to inspect current flow 1. Check Battery Voltage 2. Check starter relay 3. Check fuses 4. Check the starter magnet coil 5. Check Ignition coil 6. Check ECU 7. Check fuel lines 8. Check the ON switch.

[@milldabeast519]

I'm here for cdi repair we alrdy did all that bs. He melted it with a match and got a new one...really helpful

[@loganwork7024]

Forgot about the kill switch!

[@Shabass]

you make my day :D

[@paddymccune8512]

I like that skew driver with the band aid on it

[@steveneastland4128]

Absolute comedy classic, ‘make sure you don’t heat it up too much’😏

[@Headerflame]

Legendary!🤘🏼 Can I use the updated Bosch ignition lobe feeler with my Lunati big lobe ignitorator?

[@johnnycactus0]

vintage chic with modern reliability....ichiban does it again!

[@luckyfreeman5079]

i ned to get my bike working need to speak with ITCHIBAN [e-mail] no spark no juice at kill switch coil seems to go to ground on all contacts...need bosch kit number and how to instructions....please help thank you

[@paint951]

That's got to be the most awesome screwdriver I've ever seen LMFAS

[@IchibanMoto]

OG GAMER I have a video on how to make screwdrivers

[@submoto]

Awesome! :-p (Yoda voice) Natural selection at its finest, your videos are!

[@IchibanMoto]

+SUBMOTO I practiced my Yoda voice in front of the mirror for three hours, then read the comment again. If everyone did this, your comment would have something like five kabillion thumbs up !

[@risc19]

A spork would have made light work of that epoxy.

[@doknosee7053]

Bad ass, nice video.. gracias senor.

[@ninjanelly3506]

Awesome as ever! I think all new bikes should come with that new CDI system......a real leap forward in terms of reliability and simplicity.Much better than the old system that needs constant adjustment and replacing every five minutes.Where can I get your test light.... that really is BAD ASS!

[@IchibanMoto]

ninjanelly350 It will take the industry time to catch up to advanced technology.

[@ninjanelly3506]

That's why you are at the cutting edge of technology Mr Ichy,leading the way as always!

[@techmaven5900]

Next time you need to remove black epoxy, don't fight it with a match and cutting tool, just wait for a sunny day and use a fresnel lens from an old projection TV to burn it off. It takes badass to a whole new level!

[@IchibanMoto]

+john robert oh! top tip !

[@richardgoodwin3087]

More like 6 out of 6 stickers! Lol great videos though keep up the good work!

[@nathanhollenbeck1878]

I upgraded my 77 kawasaki to that exact same bosch "modern points system" so sweet, requires no adjustment and prob Gained upwards of 50 hp😉

[@IchibanMoto]

Nate H bad ass ! that reminds me- I still need to build a diy dyno

[@jamiefoersch4048]

+Nate H what did you use i need to know

[@Mindoff85]

Nathan where can i get one of those ignition system?

[@billcogneeto7286]

At a joke shop

[@bloodyhell451]

Ignition systems. Piece of cake ! Oh how we laughed....... Bad ass.

[@kennethlyon3829]

Lil campfire! Nice preparation. (It might work...) Thanks.

[@IchibanMoto]

+Kenneth Lyon ........smelled like marshmallows ;)

[@dareallucifer3680]

Nice video man! Good job

[@alpurl]

"New state of the art ignition system." That was a breaker points and condenser trigger system. My 1974 Pontiac had that system from the factory. And they are older than that. They also require periodic maintenance, adjustments, and replacement.

[@sebastianreyes-schulze3276]

So would you not recommend putting it in your motorcycle?

[@alpurl]

@@sebastianreyes-schulze3276 never said that. Besides, my current bikes are the same model, one 83, one 85. Both use the same type of trigger that failed in the bike in the video. Those pulse generators are no longer available from the manufacturer. So, if mine ever do fail, I may have to resort to the same fix as was used in this video. Besides, the beauty of things like breaker points is that they are purely mechanical. They are completely EMP proof.

[@oluffriesthomsen7680]

Serious, that Bosch Ignition system is really a step backwards, points has not been used since electronic arrived. Just remember to adjust, now and them. Hope, that you get some better tools, and at the same time learn to use them.

[@michaellazerdog242]

Thanks for your information & work, Could you please post a link to the BOSCH IGNITION SYSTEM? THANKS in advance.

[@kinetikhockey8120]

I would like this part number of the Bosch item as well but I don't see it anywhere in the comments ...please/thanks

[@trashyjunksters7630]

sure wished you lived in Port Huron Michigan, I got a 77 TS 250 giving me hell with the wiring

[@bikesound2]

If this is real substituting points to replace a cdi is brillant.

[@billrussell7672]

+Randy Smith hahahahahahahahahah

[@lessurette4772]

Installed points on my Honda big red up on the cam when I was 12, It almost ran but Backfired when I pulled it over and my whole forearm tuned black and blue. About 1982 those were the days lol.

[@JoeRocket-sf6qs]

Dude you just put that bike back in the dark ages,fucking points.

[@martind349]

TCP squared away too well done socket 2ME needs ductape space tho

[@asankawitharana5379]

it's good sir wish you all the best

[@yannkitson116]

I just switched to the same modern Bosch ignition system on my GY6 motor. Now even a scooter can be badass...

[@IchibanMoto]

+Yann Kitson I need to get a scooter project

[@claudiodiaz9752]

+Yann Kitson Careful, the excess power can crack the engine block.

[@obeefenn]

Yann Kitson everyone has asked ickaban for the name of the Bosch part so they could do the same thing, but he has never told anyone the Bosch part# or the info to use the same part. could you please tell me what exact Bosch system you used so that I can get one? I would totally appreciate it 🤔 thanks

[@obeefenn]

@ichiban could you please tell us what exact Bosch system you used? I have the same exact bike and problem and your video doesn't help if we don't know where to get the part or what Bosch part for that matter. Thanks my friend 😊

[@louisasheppard6147]

Love the Frankenstein looking screwdriver

[@douglascoulter3986]

Can we get a product number on that part

[@nmrc7778]

what is the part number of that bosch ignitor switch do u think it will work on a 85 xt600 dirt bike

[@farhansamsuddin4946]

so it dosn't use CDI anymore ? is it give more power than original CDI do ? im just asking

[@stevecobb76]

no, but it is much easier to diagnose & repair. with points, you can see every part of the system and make adjustments or troubleshoot individual parts. This also gives you the ability to repair your bike's ignition on the side of the road with only a minimal set of tools. it kind of sucks when your motorcycle breaks down in the middle of the night when your on some dark country road in the middle of nowhere with no cell phone reception and creepy, foggy cornfields on both sides.. this is the type of mod that will save your ass from being stranded!!! and yes, I know that sounded suspiciously specific. :) and I know this is a old thread. but his question needed to be answered.

[@emiliovianello4251]

This video is.. BADASS!!!!!!! 🤘😂😂😂

[@samdeleon06]

Also have a Honda Cm450. I would like to know if do you have any part number for the bosch CDI or a link to where can I purchase one? Been searching to ebay and can't find to see a bosch cdi fit for the cm400/450.

[@bentonrodeheaver2596]

Being a twin you're working on there, I want to replace the ignition on a cmx 250 motor that's going into an off road frame. So an alternator delete is in order. Need to know if this ignition will work for this swap? Thanks.

[@mac711]

Taped together screwdriver and vise grips. BADASS!

[@Rudeboycycles]

Ichiban is the number one go to Moto tutes on this here interconnected set of tubez! Bad ass!!

[@davesstuff1599]

Awesome glass insulated motorcycle cdi ignition troubleshooting instrument light.

[@IchibanMoto]

+David's Favorite Videos it's vintage, however still works like new !

[@thecelt4807]

awesom mate greets from australia hope all is still going well

[@robertensley8216]

which wire do you connect rhe pick up coil to the points with also will it work any different if I destroy my cdi with a torch and a 30 ton press

[@covky5486]

Can you tell me what the name of the part is that you use to bypass it with please

[@lorddeuceington6043]

those honda cm's are indestructible little bikes!

[@me666ism]

Hahaha I love this video!!

[@rustysalami8088]

I did the same upgrade on my bike but i put the Bosch points on my handle bar so I can open and close them manually, you can fine tune the bike while you ride.

[@IchibanMoto]

oh, top tip! skill level ninja !

[@rustysalami8088]

arigatou gozaimasu

[@nedj10]

what is the part number on the bosch system? does the trigger sensor that comes with the bosche system completely replace the pick up coil?

[@jeremyhardig8397]

is there any link on the part number from the bosch part?

[@christianhitrancis5380]

"make sure you don't heat it to much.".he says., ( as cdi box engulfs in flames ) nice!

[@thecriticalpoint]

It would have been helpful to see where the wires from the new module went.

[@omarhaider3035]

Thank you so much

[@christiwerner5465]

I didnt see how that cover fit over those points, and he forgot to mention the the timing is going to be off by 10 to 20 degrees. OR the part # for the point set. Im going to try this on a Chinese bike Im having trouble with. Im going to use a car coil, condencer and what ever points I can get to fit...if it works, Ill let you know.

[@phrodendekia]

Did it work?

[@ashleylloyd7445]

Christi Werner of course it didn’t work

[@CheezburgerBrown]

What timing did the original CDI provide? did it change at higher rpm? it has fixed timing now.

[@marcoantoniogalindolucches8085]

Nice a cm400, I'm rebuilding mine and looking for the caps for the ignition coil or a kit where I won't have to rejet my carbs.

[@chrishoneycutt548]

Is there any way to get the part number for the part you added on? I have a 1980 honda cm400a that is doin the same thing

[@Technie87]

I both like this dudes videos and hate them whenever I actually need to know the exact method to repair things . .

[@yonatangirma8669]

Hello Ichiban Could you please let us know the Bosch pickup part number you used. I'm planning to resurrect a 81 Suzuki SP 500.

[@markthryselius3991]

Do you have a part number for the Bosch ignition system

[@DAMHA73]

i need help with the 1988 gs 450. i have a spark on both sides but on my left side sparks is missing sometimes. if i move the wire away an inch way from the plug the spark is fixed only on higher rpm s. have changed my plugs now what is left is the pulsar, cdi and ignition,. any thoughts? n how do u make that testing light bulb

[@conraderb]

Haha, amazing ignition system.

[@stevecobb76]

I subscribed after I saw the last 5 seconds.

[@2stroke4me]

That's the problem with those high performance, high tech bikes. That's probably a 2014 model, the 2015 model requires a supercomputer hooked up to it just for a diagnosis. Nice to see the problem could be solved with that modern Bosh module :) Does it give any performance increase?

[@IchibanMoto]

+2stroke4me oh, yes! Bosch makes good stuff !

[@brianroagers9016]

How do you get the light bulb to light up when testing power? Doesn’t look like yr holding it to an actual ground and a power like a normal test light? Yr just holding it near a power and if power is present on the circuit the bulb lights? How?

[@tonyjeffery3]

you rock mr ichy

[@michaelhudson3598]

WHERE CAN I BUY THIS PART.

[@sebastianreyes-schulze3276]

Have you found where yet?? Can’t find!!

[@brianrcaissie97]

@@sebastianreyes-schulze3276 looking 4 one to

[@021mr5]

Nickeltown Customs they sell these.

[@pollopiuytre]

This dude don't give part number I can't find the f part either

[@dimmytihon]

You just said in your post that you show us how to test the CDI but it wasn't the case .anyone can replace CDI just like you did 😢

[@brentneilson5103]

i like what i seen , can i ask you if you , the bosch part you used on this bike can you give the part . i'm have probem with my 2004 eton 50cc i put a new wire harness , new coil , starer , NO spark new battley to. please help

[@TheMotorman1981]

It seems fixing a used cdi box is impossible..Only way is replacement..BTW can the ignition coil,CDI Box or the magneto tested with multimeter for its voltage output?

[@engineerkohat]

You made it ugly. You converted this bike from CDI back to point ignition system and point ignition is the worst ignition system. CDI ignition replaced the point ignition. Anyhow good video as you brought the bike back to life.

[@tengin1990]

will this work on my 83 honda sadow 750 it has two cdi ignition boxs though

[@davidrogers1410]

something's off center here, just can't put my finger on it. I would like one of those adjustable metric torque wrenches though, you get that off the snap on 🚚?

[@ronryman5843]

This cdi would be nice for a 87js650sx jetski without spark. Hunting for inspiration here in MD. Very interesting power tester what's its description??? Thank you 😊

[@md123420]

so that plugged into where the cdi did ya? so what is in the cdi case that was so easy to replace with a new one?

[@chaceoliva2842]

what's the Bosch part number or a link? would this work on an atv or a ttr225 with bad cdi's?

[@RioLajasWolF]

Nice video. Sir. I have a Honda Rebel (cmx) 450 from 1987. Recently my right spark doesn't have ignition so I started with the cheapest. I changed the sparks and still no spark on the right one. Then I changed the wires that goes to the coil. It worked the first time It started. The second time I started the motorcycle I had the same problem. When I was testing with my hand if there was pressure getting out from the right muffler I accidentally touched the muffler and I got an electric shock!!! Im thinking there a wire out of place and maybe the ignition coil got busted. any recommendations will be gladly appreciate it.

[@ashleylloyd7445]

Abimael Rivera Rivera yes check your wiring

[@ChaosExplained]

i have a shineray 125. so its possible to do without the cdi box?

[@robertfassy2875]

What is the part number to that Bosch Kit?

[@mickycoutinho1409]

Great video Sir, just wanted the part number of bosch ignition point.

[@haywoodyoudome]

You got KZbin but no Google? Look that shit up yourself. Stop begging.

[@jeffschlund8622]

can you add a link to where someone can purchase this ignition system please? thank you