How To : TFSI TIMING BELT and CHAIN

[@rupertellis7976]

Thank you so much for the simple timing explanation, the forums are awash with cryptic and incorrect information, and you're extremely straightforward!

[@DecimalTenths]

Cheers, the forum pages are indeed a load of crap generally 🤔

[@BabyCharlotteschannel]

**there's some great info on the forums, but if ya arent mechanically inclined and sometimes even if you are, it can be really hard to separate fact from fiction .. Great video brother!

[@DecimalTenths]

@@BabyCharlotteschannel True dat bro. Cheers man 👍👍

[@Sam-kn7oi]

Here to say thank you! Did the cam chain on my edition 30, made marks on the cam’s and cradle before I took it off but for some reason was half a tooth out when I put it all back together, still had it’s full power but revs would hang, idle high etc etc. Attempted to sort it a couple of times since but I never got it right, then I came across your tutorial for the chain. Been about a month now since I’ve done it, and touch wood, it seems to be all okay. Counting and marking the chain links away from the brass link was a massive help. Had to subscribe because of it, and will check out more of your videos.

[@DecimalTenths]

Thanks very much pal, glad it helped you out 👍👍

[@Iceman68415]

I also have to thank you, had to replace the chain and the tensioner in my golf 6 r. Never found any precise info on the right marking/counting according to the chain even in the VW repair guide. With your simple explanation you saved my day👍👍👍. Dropped a like and a sub. Much appreciation from Germany 😉.

[@DecimalTenths]

Nice one!! Cheers

[@manix475]

Had the pleasure of meeting Nick yesterday. Top man! Brilliant video Nick...helps a lot for someone one like me who didn't know much about what this work involves!

[@DecimalTenths]

Pleasure to meet you too pal. Thanks for the custom 👍

[@sidbobby3233]

Sitting in every mans place of freedom "the bog" and low & behold my fav popped up, be here now till dogs need walking. Looking forward to this one. Peace and thanks Sid

[@DecimalTenths]

Hope it doesn't disappoint, and you get to finish "it"...😝

[@sidbobby3233]

Finished that mega job in toilet (well thats what i told her). Now going to get in bed and watch again 😆😆😆🙏

[@derkjanspeelman2113]

thanks mate. I head a leaking head gasket, leaking valve seals and a bunch of other stuff. did everything myself besides the head: brought the head to a specialist and they repaired the valves as well. BUT.... they put the intake cam 1 tooth off of the cam chain sprocket on the intake cam..... I was done waiting, so your video helped alot. thanks

[@DecimalTenths]

Nice one pal, glad it helped and you got it fixed.

[@Roman-tl6ff]

So i have befor this job at mwb93 = -6 and after the job -2 ( all INA parts ) THX for this great timing chain video👌👌👌👌

[@DecimalTenths]

Great stuff! You're welcome

[@M00DS87]

Just had mine changed ended up taking it to a garage for them to do it. Costly job but no more rattle on cold start and of course peace of mind 👌🏻

[@DecimalTenths]

Cool, nice to see you definately needed it then 👍

[@reecehandley4662]

Very in depth video. My mk6 golf r has the same trail of oil down that side of the block with a bit of pink in it which im guessing is coming from the water pump. The oil builds up round the bottom pulley is this likely to be from the turbo like you mentioned?

[@DecimalTenths]

Either that or rocker gasket, head gasket. Coolant could be water pump.

[@sbr1160]

I've just come across your channel, and I just say I am super happy with finding out your 20 minutes away, I need the work that you're doing done so will be contacting you real soon

[@DecimalTenths]

Nice one cheers. Give us a shout and we can sort you out 👍👍

[@markymarktt8697]

Excellent content nick straight forward guide got love this guy never fails to deliver

[@DecimalTenths]

😁😉

[@DimityrIvanov-o4j]

We just replaced the timing chain on a Seat Leon 1P 2009 thanks to your guide. Great job! Keep up the good work!

[@DecimalTenths]

So welcome. Thanks 👍 😊

[@kelkela97]

Great video! One question though, I’ve done the same job and after doing the job on block 93 I have 1kw degree instead of -1kw. Why is that?

[@DecimalTenths]

The timing correlation is 1 degree tighter instead of slacker. Perfectly normal 👍

[@stevenmccarron-talesfromli4831]

Absolutely fantastic video. I have a Mkg GTI and Im looking to get this looked at with regards to all the timing!!!!

[@DecimalTenths]

👍👍

[@lennybeuker]

you gave me the confidence to do the timing belt and chain on my cupra 1p 2.0 tfsi thanks man! gonna buy me the skf kit tomorrow

[@cruiseedwards4657]

Did you end up doing it yourself?

[@ori0nzbelt]

Thank you for this excellent video! It cleared all confusion before I attempt this job. Cheers!

[@scottyeoman6656]

Thank you for this video and the other one on rounded cam bolt removal. The technique worked perfectly. Needed to check my cam timing as something wasn't right on a car I bought. Turned out to be a broken cam locator pin so the variator had moved slightly causing sluggish performance. The video allowed me to confirm I had assembled it properly. Cheers

[@DecimalTenths]

Nice one dude, glad it helped.

[@chriseddie4281]

Right on time Nick, I'm servicing my GTI and doing the belt when I get home 😄

[@DecimalTenths]

😂 do it pal. Its not all bad on a mk5 🔥

[@chriseddie4281]

@@DecimalTenths I managed the chain and tensioner without destroying the engine so belt should be a doddle! Will give you a shout once it's all sorted to finally get to the bottom of that wastegate problem. 👍

[@BabyCharlotteschannel]

​@@chriseddie4281whats up with the wastegate?? I liked the one vid showing putting a little more tension on the spring to get that little bit more boost out of it.. Think it was here, i e seen a whole lot of really helpful vids here which is nice since i have always done EVERYTHING myself.. guess being a mechanic has some benefits.. lol

[@edgarmora7747]

Thanks from Mexico man! I have a question for somebady to know, Why the phase possition number does not appear?. I have vcds19.6.1

[@DecimalTenths]

Same engine? If there is no phase, then there is no correlation. Timing is out.

[@edgarmora7747]

@@DecimalTenths same engine yes. Thank you. Hope more videos

[@kristofarsabev4123]

How did you know the oil leaks from the turbo? Do you see it drip from the turbo or do you assume? I have oil leak on the same spot, but my turbo is dry on the inside and the outside. So now I don't know what it could be as my dv connector had oil on it too, but around my dv was completely dry. If you have any ideas, please feel free to reply. I can use the help. Thanks in advance!

[@Marijuanajoseph]

hoping you put out a full intake camshaft replacement video, all the ones ive seen on here dont go nearly into the detail or clarity of yours.

[@noahreiboldt9956]

Servicing my 06 jetta gli with the tfsi today. My timing belt cover is stuck in a cut out on the passenger side motor mount. in the video yours pulled straight out….

[@DecimalTenths]

It can sometimes be a bit tricky due to the mount and the turbo water return line that runs down there. Just got to be gentle when removing. If it comes out no problem, then it's generally been trimmed by the previous guy who changed the belt. Early TFSIs came with 1 piece covers which are appallingly bad to remove 🙈

[@breashea]

You saved my life with the chain marking everything else I found said the copper piece went on the exhaust sprocket and my car ran like shit for the last 5 months no boost p0016 code and I new it had something to do with the timing but couldn’t figure out what and I switched the chain to tha way you showed and she’s back to herself thanks again

[@DecimalTenths]

No problem, glad it helped. It's irrelevant which side the link goes on, but I use it in this way to make install easier. 👍

[@miked.1134]

Very good information especially using VCDS. One thing that I did see is you didn't replace the motor mount bolts. On the Audi with the stretch bolts this is a necessity. Is the VW different?

[@DecimalTenths]

No they are the same, so "should" be replaced. I didn't on this one admittedly as first of all it's mine.., and secondly I knew i had to pull them off again a week later as the engine came out to fix a snapped stud

[@tony080577]

Thanks for the video. Very well explained. I followed the explanation and changed the chain on my audi a4 b7 2.0T fsi because it had the p0016 code and the readings from the measuring block indicates specified 28kw and actual 31.4kw for the camshaft adjustment. After changing the chain, the readings became 28kw specified and between 27.5 and 28 kw, yet the p0016 code is still there. Please kindly help me, what do I need to do to clear the p0016 code. Thanks

[@DecimalTenths]

What's the phase position in block 093? Check that, and also log the car whilst driving to make sure the req vs actual agree.

[@marcocardoso6560]

What brand and viscosity of oil do you recommend for this engine?

[@BMD786]

Great video! I done all this but my car still knocking and rattling, sometimes the oil pressure light comes up and then goes away

[@DecimalTenths]

Drop the sump, clean and check the pickup pipe. 👍

[@ruthlessdubs3052]

Do you have a part number for the control rings? Vw couldn’t find them on the parts catalogue

[@keepitreal3453]

How much do you charge mate fit new chain . Would love travel down to you someone that good at dealing with these engines

[@DecimalTenths]

Cheers! Genuine chain job is £599 with us currently.

[@kocio999]

I changed cam belt 3 months ago, today chain and its -2 is it ok?

[@DecimalTenths]

Yes perfectly acceptable readings

[@kocio999]

​@@DecimalTenths I did check it today after 8 months. On idle its spec 28, actual 26.5-27, on revs its still follow tide. Is it alright? :D -2 still.

[@sergej08080]

15:38 Tried this method, engine chokes! Is it different for two liter FSI, if yes, how many links do I have to count? Thank you in advance

[@DecimalTenths]

No different if it is the same family of engines.

[@crussyrangwani7938]

I would like to thank you very much i did a timing chain change for my mk5 gti like what you showed us simple and straight forward I did the test with vcds before it was -4 after installing new kit it reads 0 Thank you so much

[@DecimalTenths]

Nice one well done 👍👍

[@ABF16V]

Ever seen the dowel on the variator shear off?

[@DecimalTenths]

Yep, a good few times now.

[@ABF16V]

@@DecimalTenths a new replacement variator (and maybe some new intake valves!) sorts the issue? I should have added, really enjoy the TFSI based vids I've seen on here and subscribed.

[@07frbaiz]

Great video, do you have any videos doing a timing chain on VW golf 5 FSI engine?

[@DecimalTenths]

Cheers, sorry no we don't see many of them 😬

[@charles-336]

Is it possible for block 91 to be showing 6 percent but block 93 to show 0%? As if the chain is perfect but the belt needs done right?

[@DecimalTenths]

Be careful what you are looking at. Block 091-02 showing about 6% is normal. That is N205 duty cycle. If viewed on vcds and 093-03 is blank then there is no correlation. It can be at 0kw which is basically perfect.

[@charles-336]

@DecimalTenths so 6.3% on 091-02 is normal? It was at 4.5 when I bought the car. And has gone up in only 4 months. 093-03 does show 0°kw. And I don't have vcds I'm using obd11. Thank you for answering me. Finding definitive information can be hard.

[@charles-336]

@DecimalTenths I've been having issues with rpms being higher than usual at idle, engine load runs higher than usual, occasional misfires, and on cold start the other day it had a noticeable tick for about 10 seconds then went away. Not the normal noisyness.

[@ARocketScientist85]

Hey, thank you for the video, that is actually the single best for that repair. If that bolt does strip, though, what would be your go to solution? Drill it out or go for one of those stripped bolt kits with the left-threaded drill bits? Thanks in advance for your response!

[@DecimalTenths]

I've made a video on the bolt stripping 👍👍

[@ARocketScientist85]

@@DecimalTenths Awesome, I'll check it out right away! Thx

[@Flishlakv2]

I appreciate the content nick do you think you could provide a part number for the vvti oil control rings as tps have no idea what I’m talking about much appreciated

[@Flishlakv2]

any update for the part number? :)

[@christopherhargreaves3820]

Mate please explain how you remove the intermediate engine mount that bolts to the engine. Do you have to remove drive shafts to allow for enough movement? I see when you're putting back together you have the intermediate engine mount in, but not timing cover on, my timing cover is all one piece so cannot fit after mount is on, please reply you legend.

[@DecimalTenths]

Hey pal, I assume you have an AXX engine with a 1 piece cover? If so then the procedure is to remove the drives haft and disconnect the exhaust to allow the e gine to tilt enough to remove the cover. Most people snap it off and replace it with the 2 piece covers. The 1 piece was a short lived shit idea...

[@kufal22]

Hi, great tutorial video! I recently bought a GTI and checked the engine group 93 values - it looks fine (-1.0KW). I didnt check group 91 tho. What does that mean for the timing chain and timing belt? Are they both in good condition or I can only be sure about the chain? I am a little bit worried about the cover next to the fuel pump (yours has white "GTD" writing on it) mine is very dark and oily - what could that possibly mean? Previous owner stated he did some work on timing 13k miles ago.

[@mark.r8900]

Hi, if the timing chain and tensioner was set correctly the slot on the intake sprocket should be exactly at the 12 and 6 o'clock position to accept the vacuum pump? Thanks

[@DecimalTenths]

Irrelevant... if it is in a different position, then rotate the vacuum pump to suit 👍

[@KINGOFFILMSDUDE]

Did you notice any change in idle and cold start noise? Thinking i'm needing a new belt and cam follower soon, so would be good to listen for pointers.

[@DecimalTenths]

If you have timing issues then you will notice a difference. You shouldn't notice a difference though if everything is OK

[@liamfirth3594]

Thanks for the video. I'm going to be doing this on my edition 35. Do you have a part number for the oil control rings please?

[@DecimalTenths]

Sure 06F198107A 👍

[@liamfirth3594]

Are they on the edition 35s as I rang TPS and they cannot find them

[@old.yfzr6280]

Huge question tho before I do this. The crank tdc mark is spot on the cam is 1/8th off just like a sliver.. it was running an driving before the cam chain tensioner just broke so I figured Id do it all at once. Which one should I make sure is spot on since when the cam is at the tdc marks the crank is a little before it… when crank is at tdc arrow the cam is a little past it..

[@DecimalTenths]

The cam marking is on plastic so could be slightly out. Confirm it by measuring tdc down the no.1 spark plug hole. There is a way of doing the belt by counting teeth also.

[@martinprice8935]

Has the oem chain got a brass link?

[@DecimalTenths]

Yes, I'm fitting an oem chain.

[@bobg1901]

Hello mate, my son did his servicing for a 08 Reg Golf TSI but after few days he found the engine warning light on. I connect by OBD an cleared the fault. But now the engine is not starting and the AA said it's possibly the timing belt as it's not starting at all. I doubt it as everything was perfectly fine until I cleared the fault. Do you think it need the crankshaft sensor changing. There is no knocking sound when turning the engine.

[@DecimalTenths]

Hi there, This is the type of fault in which I could diagnose pretty quickly if the car was in front of me. You can check the output of the crank sensor in a decent diagnostic tool which will give you the answer. I wouldnt recommend guessing and firing parts at it. Best to book in here or somewhere local to you who can diagnose for you

[@pravvvy4756]

Hello, I changed cam chain But now the car doesn't pull. At idle I now see 28 KW Cam Adjustment Intake B1 (spec) and 55.5-57KW Cam Adjustment Intake B1 (actual). So nearly double… With the old parts, these used to match (28 and 27.5) I also don't get a value for phase position in group 093 anymore. It's just blank, can you help me?

[@DecimalTenths]

Yes your timing is very wrong. Time to strip it down and redo it.

[@pravvvy4756]

Thanks! Could something have happened if I drove 7km like that?

[@chriswilliams1607]

Fantastic video, looking to check my timing soon, in block 91 i have a requested value of 28 degrees all the time and my actual between 34 - 36 degrees and no phase value, have you seen this before?

[@DecimalTenths]

Yes pal, Your timing is incorrect. For that actual value with no phase then I'd suggest that your belt is a few teeth out. Possible chain also, but start woth checking the belt first 👍

[@chriswilliams1607]

​@@DecimalTenths spot on, was exactly 2 teeth out. turns out the shop that did the cambelt 2 years ago messed it up. i owe you one buddy

[@DecimalTenths]

@@chriswilliams1607 Nice one, glad it helped pal 👍

[@manup2008]

Great video, given me the confidence to attempt it myself. Should I lubricate the chain and tensioner with fresh engine oil when assembling? And maybe put a few drops on the camshaft too?

[@DecimalTenths]

It won't hurt, but it's not needed.

[@BabyCharlotteschannel]

I try to keep everything clean and dry so i dont get oil or anything on the gasket surfaces or anywhere its not supposed to be.. but like he said it wont hurt and it will have oil all over it the second its started...

[@Andi11144]

Hi, we changed the belt and chain, chain is installed 100% correct but we have -12 degrees on block 93. Looks like we are one or maybe even 2 teeth off on the belt. We didn't have cam and crank locking tool. If I now loosen the belt tensioner which direction do I have to turn the camshafts clockwise or counterclockwise?

[@DecimalTenths]

Yes sounds like you are a few teeth retarded.

[@Andi11144]

@@DecimalTenths that means i have to undo the belt and turn the cams clockwise right?

[@Andi11144]

Update: do not trust this value. On my BWE it doesn't mean anything. We changed the belt 2 teeth over, still -12, 4 teeth in the different direction still -12, starting rough. Then we unbolted the front and set it correctly still -12. This value does not show crank to cam correlation!!! nor can it show difference between intake and exhaust cams!

[@rickydub6950]

When my mates mk5 gti was in to get the timing chain done the mechanic that was on it phoned in sick the next day when it was due to be built back up 😁 horrible job which you made look straightforward 👏😎

[@DecimalTenths]

People do tend to fear it, and it can go wrong when the cambolt rounds off which this one did...🙈. Check put the next video 👍

[@rickydub6950]

@@DecimalTenths will do man 🙂👍

[@markshone4606]

I always do this and transfer marks over from belt too belt always easier in my opinion

[@DecimalTenths]

Cos you know pal 😉👍👍

[@TehNouk]

How could you move the intake cam gear when the camshaft where locked?

[@DecimalTenths]

There is always a tiny amount of slack on the cams. It doesn't lock them completely. The cheaper cam locks are appalling and they let the cams move a lot. We modified ours so it works better.

[@l.e.v.c9710]

My oil control rings where metal, but they broke when i took it apart, can i just replace with the plastic ones ???

[@DecimalTenths]

Yes you can, but inspect the inside of the variator as it might be worn due to the metal rings.

[@adhizzle9985]

Finally put a new chain on! Thoughts on phase position being at +1KW? My adjustment is 27.5-28KW. Car has no codes. It has a jerky rpm randomly which I can't figure out! Pulls good though. New plugs, New coils, New pvc, New crank position sensor, injectors cleaned with new orings, clean intake valves, clean throttle body. New 75/80/205 sensor/etc. New battery and alternator. I'm so lost lol. Vcds shows no codes

[@DecimalTenths]

Yeah +1 is fine 👍

[@danellis7548]

What about + 5 on phase position ?

[@MrR4H33M]

Which is the right kit to buy as many part shops just say it’s a 2 item part and some say it’s got more than 2 things etc. I have an 05 plate AXX engine.

[@amankhan-lj9uo]

Need help , my mk6 edition 35 , CDL engine timing is off , booked in with vw themself , had the belt and tensioner replaced but timing is still off the same , should be showing 28 but actual is 41 ???!!!

[@DecimalTenths]

They havnt a clue what they're doing then! 🙈 We can help if you need it sorted.

[@amankhan-lj9uo]

@@DecimalTenths please 🙏 Wher can I find you ??? , I’m based in Leeds , West Yorkshire , the car has gone back in to vw today to recheck the timing of it’s still showing off please help lol

[@DecimalTenths]

@amankhan-lj9uo Were in Newcastle so not too far away from you. decimaltenths.co.uk/find-us/

[@CR15PY1]

I just got my exhaust sprocket off. I had a chain guide failure top and bottom. Can I reuse my stock vvt sprocket? Looks in good shape, I do have a replacement though . Non oem

[@DecimalTenths]

Hi yeah you can reuse if its in good condition

[@KitrinomavrosTimoros]

Nice video man!! Had cam chain & tensioner replaced on my s3 8p and timing now looks same as yours, spot on!! Can you please also explain in block 091 what the cam. adjustment int bank 1 6.3% means??? If it means anything of course.... Thank you!

[@DecimalTenths]

Cheers dude. That is the duty cycle on the VVT (N205) solenoid. Essentially how hard it is working. It will change with revs to make the actual cam position match the specified. Around 6% at idle is perfect.

[@young1855]

Hi I am using OBDeleven but it says 3.00 degree does that mean minus or posative?

[@DecimalTenths]

3 = 3, -3 = -3 😁

[@martinnrhave6832]

My "Cam. Adjustment intake bank 1" in group 91 is 43,1% at idle. Any ideas as to what could be the probem? Also the "Phase position bank 1 intake" in group 93 is -9 degrees. Just the chain or also the timing belt?

[@DecimalTenths]

Check them both. Easiest to check the belt end though. Sounds like there's a big error there though

[@martinnrhave6832]

​@@DecimalTenthsI ordered both the chain and the belt. Might as well change them. Do you think this will solve the cam adjustment or just the phase position?

[@katlarelomolapisi5467]

I wish I had seen this video before changing my chain. I have VCDS but didn't think to check the chain stretch. Anyway, good thing I did change the chain and tensioner.

[@DecimalTenths]

Defo, sadly they do snap if not maintained

[@troll473]

I have the code p000A, in block 091 28.0 in block 093 -5.0, where can I start looking for the VVT fault or the rings? Thank you. Or am I in tolerances? Audi s3 8p 2008 2.0tfsi. Stage 3

[@DecimalTenths]

I'd recommend at -5 you should do the timing chain and inspect all components whilst doing it. You will probably either find your problem or inadvertently fix it at the same time.

[@eonesyafiq4844]

Hey there...just wondering I have a reding of +5.3 for the camshaft adjustment/adaptation value on my 2.0 ea888 engine...does it means something is wrong? Because my my dash is giving intermittent 'Engine fault:Visit workshop' with epc light only about 1sec and then it goes away, in addition the engine will kind of stutter when the warning is on...the only fault code I get is (P0341:cam pos sensor circuit range/performance), this problem occurs frequently after I drive in in WOT conditions and let go of the throttle, not during WOT, but sometimes it happens during normal driving condition... hopefully you can share some advice in tackling this problem, tq in advance 😃🙏🙇 (sorry for my broken English 😂)

[@DecimalTenths]

Depends what generation of ea888 you have. If gen 3 then it's most likely cam magnets.

[@eonesyafiq4844]

@@DecimalTenths I think 1st generation.. it's a 2011 VW passat CC

[@crussyrangwani7938]

Well explained thanks man mine is on -4 so I'm going to change the timing chain asap

[@DecimalTenths]

Class. Do it for the peace of mind pal

[@PetrTolar-nh3uk]

hi, I have a problem with the performance of my car when it doesn't want to drive much over 5000rpm and I suspect the adjustment according to the position 91 spec is 28kw actual is between 15-17kw position 91-2 is still at 5.9% still unchanged even after revving the engine. ... there are no values ​​for block 93-3 and errors are entered in the diagnostics

[@DecimalTenths]

Hi there, Your timing is incorrect. It is most likely the belt is a tooth out. Could be other things such as seized adjuster. But check your static timing first 👍

[@jamescarney1519]

I'm completing this job on a b6 passat right now. Where does the ground point attach to the camshaft timing cover. I'm not sure if I have it in the right spot

[@DecimalTenths]

It attached to a metal bracket which bolts to the top of the cover with a multispline headed bolt

[@JosipZelenika-pb4zc]

Hi @DecimalTenths I changed my chain and tensioner last weekend (INA set) my readings before were -3/-4 after changing the set now it is on -2. BTW I used your video as a guide. visually when everything was mounted the chain looked exactly like yours. I was hoping to get to 0. However, when doing a cold start I can still hear some very short chain rattle for a tiny bit of a second. is the tensioner maybe faulty even if new? best regards

[@DecimalTenths]

Hi there, -2 is an OK measurement. It's common on the non oem kits like INA to have some tolerance. The tensioner is oil fed so drop your sump and clean out your pickup to ensure it gets good flow from startup.

[@JosipZelenika-pb4zc]

​@@DecimalTenths after hearing some minor rattling on cold starts, I decided to take the new set off after only 200kms. What I noticed is that the chain became really "stiff" and if it seized somehow. Now I don't know what to do. I ordered another set, maybe the chain was faulty or maybe there is another problem with oil preassure. I installed a 1.8t oilpump and a bolt on oil Filter housing from a fsi first gen. Only checked the oil preassure once before starting the car since IT was a complete rebuild, the oil preassure was building up to around 2.5 bar at starting (without ignition)

[@JanHruby-xb7ew]

sorry for my english translator what causes the idle speed to fluctuate 720-760 is this normal? I have the same thing and it jerks with the whole car

[@DecimalTenths]

Generally boost leaks or duff injectors

[@nickvigors8751]

Hi Nick, do I need to be a TDC when I time up the cam chain? Thanks for the videos. Nick.

[@DecimalTenths]

Yes, really you should, but as long as the cams are in position so that the timing tool slots over, it kinda is irrelevant. Defo TDC whenever doing timing work though for me 👍

[@TheLewiscroker]

Just wondering if you could help explain my readings please. Upon initial testing block 91 had 4.0 difference and block 93 was at 0. After a 50% throttle rev and returning to idle block 91 was only 0.5 different and but block 93 was reading +3

[@DecimalTenths]

Would need more info from logging to see what was happening dude.

[@TheLewiscroker]

@@DecimalTenths thanks for getting back. May take it for a little drive tomorrow although I do have a cam belt kit along with cam chain and cam follower arriving this week any how

[@ryangilliland2938]

Great information! I got my chain kit ordered. Wondering what is the name of the tool you use to move the intake cam back to get the exhaust gear back on?

[@DecimalTenths]

It comes in the TFSI chain tool kit 👍

[@Khercules]

First, I want to say thank you for this incredible video. You have no idea how helpful it was for me. Second, I do not have VCDS but I do have an Autel MS906BT. how do I find such values there? I am handy with mechanical stuff, but when it comes to the software side of things, I fall flat on my face. Any help will be greatly appreciated! I have a 2007 VW GTI if it helps. Thanks a lot for making these videos!

[@DecimalTenths]

We don't use that system sadly dude. But the measuring block or love data always has the same numbers regardless of system, so look for love data/measuring blocks 091 093 👍

[@Khercules]

@@DecimalTenths great, that's plenty of help. Thank you again!

[@khsmith6242]

Terrific video mate, is this the same for a Mk6 golf R then?

[@DecimalTenths]

Cheers! It is indeed the same pal 👍

[@khsmith6242]

@@DecimalTenths thanks mate, how long a labour job is it? Bit too much for me to do myself thinking a garage would charge 3/4 hrs in labour?

[@DecimalTenths]

@KH Smith Belt is 3-4 hrs, chain is 3-4 hours. Expect 6-8 hours labour total for both

[@CR15PY1]

I was wondering if you took off the timing chain cover without removing the vacuum pump? It’s hard to tell, any idea as to why my vacuum pump was stuck?😂 I took of the 3 bolts and it wouldn’t budge lol, was it because it put it in tdc?

[@DecimalTenths]

No they can be stuck sometimes, and we've even seen them jammed up with silicone from previous removals too. It will come out with the 3 bolts removed.

[@simontompkins3300]

Great video, really well explained and nice to see you do the actual job and explain what your doing.keep them coming.

[@DecimalTenths]

Cheers 👍👍

[@schneggie]

well i spoke to soon, have an oil leak that i have not been able to find where it is coming from. The engine is a left/right configuration, timing belt is on the left side when standing in front of the car. So when i get under the car on my back i can see the exhaust manifold. It looks like there is a rail or something that the oil is coming from. The exhaust manifold does not have any oil on it, the turbo assembly is completely dry. Any suggestions would be helpful, I'd send you a pick but don't think that is possible. Thanks again!!!

[@marcusclements341]

Hi bud, first off the video spot on saved me some money! But my vcds is saying its 6.0kw and not 0? I stripped it down again and checked and everything is timed correctly any other suggestion?

[@DecimalTenths]

Would have to know more to help pal. What is block 091 saying? Fire me over an email with info if you want. [e-mail]

[@marcusclements341]

Hi bud Thank-you for the reply email sent

[@Ableee]

Hello. Thanks for video , it's perfection. Im having problem with 091 mine cam adjusments are different one is 24kw one is 27.5kw. what to do. Everything was fitted new 2 months ago and i had no error , yesterday p000a jumped out . 093 is at 0.0 . Car runs fine . I just forgot to change oil control rings , can that cause problem?

[@DecimalTenths]

You must have an AXX engine so your request will be 24 instead of 28. Is your 093-3 at 0.0 or blank? Are you reading it with vcds? 27 actual on your engine is wrong and suggests an issue.

[@Ableee]

@@DecimalTenths yes its an axx . My 093-3 is 0,0 . Yes , with vcds. Cam chain set new , oil pump new , n205 new, belt new had no problems untill yesterday . Could it rings groove in phaser and now thats making problem ?

[@DecimalTenths]

@Able Sounds like there's an issue in there yes. What is block 091-2 at?

[@Ableee]

@@DecimalTenths 091-1 760rpm , 091-2 83,9% , 091-3 24.0kW 091-4 27.5kW . I changed n205 once again . But code keeps jumping after giving it gas above 3k rpm. I have 1 wire open on harness which goes to n205. But error would stay always if that is case i think.

[@chrisrutherford3862]

Nice do like the bit with marking the old belt too

[@chrilleman16]

so i did mine and it all seems fine, no weird sounds or anything, sounds amazing on idle and revs just fine, but ive noticed tiny small backfires when the car is cold and i rev it, and i honestly dont think ive had that before. as soon as the cars gain temp the pops stop. could the timing be off?, i think i need to get my self one of those readers

[@DecimalTenths]

It is possible that your timing is out. Best to check it and know for sure 👍

[@eng-izzabualrob3576]

is that the same timing chain marks and the number 18 and 19 in chain like vw passat 2.0 fsi 2007 ?

[@DecimalTenths]

Yes 👍

[@eng-izzabualrob3576]

@@DecimalTenths think you 👍

[@CR15PY1]

Just finished 30 minutes ago. My gti started up so quiet and smooth 🎉

[@DecimalTenths]

Sweet 👍👍

[@CR15PY1]

@@DecimalTenths she sounds like a beast again. My tune sounds much heavier & my power has been restored. The fixed timing is also excellent

[@DecimalTenths]

@@CR15PY1 class mate. Good to hear 👌

[@zoltanmagyar3991]

Hi! I have done the same job, and it starts ok. But after it gets the choke period done, my idle is very rough, and shakes the hole car. I have a p1093 fault code. The car runs well, and have a good engine sound. Any ideas, how to fix this problem? Ohh, and i didn’t see any air flow in the real time data... i tried to pull the air flow meter, but it didn’t get any better.

[@jpra64]

So the cam timing delay (-4) comes from worn out timing chain tensioner? would this be the same case for the 1.8t engines? On a cold engine I can lift up on my hydraulic tensioner and cam timing 1 will be -2-3 but driving it usually finds it way to -3.8-4 but the belt is tight would this be chain tensioner or chain?

[@DecimalTenths]

It can come from any part of the system that wears and allows a bit of slop. The principle is similar on the 1.8t engine, but generally not a problem as long as it is all timed up properly. Best to check vvt actuation by logging on an 1.8t to see if there's an issue.

[@jpra64]

@@DecimalTenths I'm going to go to a manual timing belt tensioner cause I dont want a bad hydraulic tensioner to take me out, just wasnt sure if I should throw a new chain chain tensioner at it as well which I probably will, my timing marks line up but does -4 mean the cam timing is -4 degrees out? Like if I had an adjustable cam gear and advanced it +4 it would be zero?

[@thebugman401]

why cant more people go into more depth explaining stuff like this

[@DecimalTenths]

Because they don't want you to know...😉🤣

[@LinusF_]

i have somekind of nocking sounds between 1500 and 2000 and then its gone thought first it was something loose behind the dashboard but coudnt find any, but its hard to hear from outside cause sport exhaust -.- and then i was thinking maybe it is the timing chain and i checked group 91 and it had 0.5-1 degree and group 93 it was always 0. i have also problem that on cold start sometimes the engine hesistate/stutter to start and need to hold key for like 2-3sec and sometime it start immediately, could that maybe be cause of severe carbon build up i think its never cleaned and the gti have 230000km on it.

[@DecimalTenths]

Most likely needs carbon cleaned, injectors serviced, boost leak and pcv test and runner flaps checked for correct operation 👍

[@LinusF_]

@@DecimalTenths yes i will do carbon clean pretty soon and the injectors are already serviced, boost leak i dont have but how do i test pcv and runner flaps? can obdeleven do some testing? and do u have any clue what can cause the nocking sound at those rpms? i have also checked those channel 91 and 93 few time through out the days and funny thing is going from perfect to like 25.5-27 on C91 and C93 -2 to -3

[@cameronpayne4761]

Great content, just binge watched a load on your channel lol. Back to this vid as struggling to figure out my values. Should these all be measured at idle? On idle my duty cycle sits at 5.9%, 28° spec and 24.5° actual. Block 93 shows -3°. However if revs are increased slightly, the spec and actual in 91 tighten right up. Is this normal? Cheers

[@petervoll]

Hey indeed great video and very entertaining. I did this job once and will need to repeat it. Can i ask how do you deal with the bolts? Do you just tension them by feeling and reuse the old ones? I am a bit of a newbie, and the guidelines keep saying replace the bolts since they are yield-bolts. But I am assuming that its a bit of a fuzz

[@DecimalTenths]

Cheers 👍 Depends which bolts. Tensioner, VVT unit then replace. All others such as rocker, chain end cover, engine mounting bolts in a DIY setting I'd reuse. In the workshop we would assess them and either reuse or replace depending on condition and ability to get to yield again.

[@petervoll]

@@DecimalTenths Hey thank you for your reply, yes of course rather uncritical bolts such as engine mounting bolts. I dont believe they need the 100% specified torque, however each time i reuse I am scared that it will sheer

[@rickykenny2626]

Done my belt all lines up but cam adjustment actual jumps about fell like 17 to 24 and car seams to idle low at 720 any ideas

[@DecimalTenths]

Belt timing is probably out a tooth. Seen it lots of times. Post up 091 and 093

[@S38P]

My block 93 phase position is + 2 is that normal that it's in the plus not minus? Trying to chase an idle miss. Thanks for the vid 👍

[@DecimalTenths]

Yeah they can be positive also. All comes down the chain and other components, and they're health. +2 isn't anything to worry about in terms of phase, but if you think the cam timing is an issue then logging 091 will confirm if its able to be controlled under load. I'd suggest you investigate the injectors/coils

[@S38P]

@@DecimalTenths Thankyou for the reply. Its had 4 Apr coils, plugs,injectors, valves cleaned ,pcv, chain, timing belt, compressions checked. God knows 😂

[@larcherdam]

Job done 300kms ago, now i get the error p0011, replaced chain and tensioner and the 3 control rings, the car runs perfectly but i get always the error code after a few miles. Could it bee the 3 control rings because they not entered easy in the vvt like in your video?thanks

[@DecimalTenths]

It would take more investigation to find out why the code keeps showing. Yes it could be the 3 rings, buy nit just because of that though.

[@larcherdam]

@@DecimalTenths i have some doubt about them because the cover entered also very hard, but if the car runs perfectly could they be broken? Now i dont get anymore the p0011 i get the p000a

[@YOYO-vl6xr]

hello, GTI MK5 here. In group 091 I get 28 degrees (spec) and 26.5 degrees (actual). on group 093 I get -3.00 degrees. What I have wrong? also do you recomend replacing the cam adjuster when doing the chain? thank you in advance!

[@DecimalTenths]

Hi yes you should replace the tensioner. You don't need to replace the adjuster if yours is in good condition. Did you use Genuine parts?

[@melchioremter681]

Hi I turned on the measuring block 093 in Obdeleven and the value -5 ° is constantly displayed even when the engine is switched off! Is this normal why does nothing change. I drive an A6 4f c6 2.0 tfsi BPJ 2006. Is that normal? and also the -5 ° value? Chain and tensioner were exchanged last year! Unfortunately, when the engine is warm, you can currently hear rattling noises every 2 - 3 seconds! I'm going crazy!

[@DecimalTenths]

-5 and rattling suggests there's an issue.

[@yankamil4958]

Got me fully Gassed thinking I should have done my own but is there any chance of doing another a3 petrol this one is not a quattro got genuine crank belt timing kit all we need is cam chain oil pump chain oil pump sprocket seem you know what your doing effortlessly let me know

[@DecimalTenths]

Cheers, what you asking pal, I don't understand?

[@yankamil4958]

Are you in london because I have my partners a3 timing belt kit cam timing chain oil pump chain and sprocket that has to be done dam near sounds like a diesel and it a petrol if it's possible how much like your work

[@santosteam6308]

Hi friend , great video , why or at what point , do you put the pin in the tensioner ?? Before installing the locking tool , did you set the engine at any point, moving the wheel ? Or this is not necessary ?? Many many thanks

[@DecimalTenths]

The pin stays in the tensioner until the bolt is tightened, and then the pin is released.

[@33gall]

I take it same procedure on a mk2 TTS? Can you remember what brand of tensioner you used?

[@DecimalTenths]

Yes same procedure. We only use Genuine parts for these.

[@33gall]

Cheers 👍🏻

[@NolTee2]

Quick question @DecimalTenths I changed the chain & tensioner but I'm not happy with how it idles. So I re did it & it's still not right. Before I do it again.. What do you think of this. When I do a scan this is how it reads Block 91 Engine speed 720/760 Cam adjustment intake B1 74/76% At idle. It has a new vvt. So it's not that. What could be causing such high readings. It's doin my nut in. Cam adjustment B1 specified 24 kw CAM adjustment actual 24/25kw Block 93 Engine speed 720/760 Engine load 13.5/14 (yours is 16.5%) Phase position B1 is -1. That's at full temperature too Any help please It's a 2005 axx engine

[@sonicboom4053]

What was the difference in price for the genuine kit/waterpump and gates kit/watsrpump for thid car

[@DecimalTenths]

Not worth using gates on these. Genuine everytime. The cost difference is tiny.

[@sonicboom4053]

@@DecimalTenths thanks

[@chaddavis4901]

Followed this video for a cam chain, tensioner and VVT replacement today, phase position was around +6kw before and is now sitting at +10kw!! I have stripped it down twice and same reading!! Any ideas? Thanks

[@DecimalTenths]

I would log the car on a pull, for block 091-2/3 req vs actual. If they agree with no fault codes then its doing its job. You could leave it with the peace of mind that you hVe replaced the chain and tensioner. If you wanted to dig further then check the oil control rings, n205 vvt solenoid and cam position sensor.

[@russell_parsons2153]

Did anyone have a hard time putting cover on because of the control rings? I can’t get my cover to slide on. It seems like the rings are to big. Thanks

[@DecimalTenths]

Most people have a hard time getting it in because the ring is too small, not big 🙈🤣

[@ProjectArjun]

I have +2.3 on Bank 1 and +3.8 on Bank 2 (this is for a 3.0T TFSI Supercharged), should I be concerned?