How To Win As Black Against The Fried Liver Attack!

[@ChessVibesOfficial]

If you tried this as black, comment below and let me know the result!

[@iMarc89]

I know it's 4 months old, but this was a very helpful video. I like to play the two knights defence against the Italian, but I've always avoided the fried liver with the exact line you showed at the start of the video. No more! I have already won two games with these tips. I won't go for it all the time, but this has definitely given me another weapon if I'm feeling like a bit of excitement.

[@junwei8480]

@Adeetya Naarvekar lmao what

[@dimensionalblade2778]

I saw this video to know more about fried liver and opponent played Qh4 after I took on f7 and I was like wtf

[@iMarc89]

@@dimensionalblade2778 Haha, got their order mixed up. Classic.

[@petremunteanu2941]

I'm having a hard time luring opponents in even when playing as white - everyone shies away with Na5...

[@nonameee0729]

"As long as you don't get checkmated, you gonna win the game." Chess Vibes 2021 9:14

[@ChessVibesOfficial]

😂

[@ChasseAuxHiboux]

Draw: am I joke for you? xD

[@Antonio-wh8lh]

Pieces die when they are ki-aptured

[@wenchelardo]

@@ChasseAuxHiboux stalemate _.

[@ChasseAuxHiboux]

@@wenchelardo threefold repetition, 50 moves without captures and pawn moves, not enough material for checkmate

[@InfiniteQuest86]

So awesome! No one talks about this as black! I'm gonna try it. At the very least it is practice with defending, which I think a lot of puzzles and trainers don't prepare you for. But actually a lot of the lines are very logical as you point out. If you remember the ideas, you will probably be able to rediscover the right moves even if you didn't memorize them perfectly.

[@ChessVibesOfficial]

Great! Let me know how it turns out! 👍

[@3NR85-LTX85]

I usually play the traxler when a fried liver is played. If you haven’t heard of it, I highly recommend it! :)

[@asai6201]

@@3NR85-LTX85 It's all fun and games until White rejects the bishop sacrifice.

[@scoutbane1651]

@@asai6201 isn't taking and then Kg1 technically better than just hiding? Like, it's a good move but I'm pretty sure you can just take and still be better if you're careful. Most people implode if you protect for the next 2-3 moves

[@nategar412]

I love it when I'm black and white goes for the Fried Liver Attack. Not so I can play these lines, but so I can play the Traxler Counterattack.

[@LDw-rd4rw]

I had black three times in one day OTB. 3 wins against this. I've found that once you've survived until move 8 or 9, the players who tried this as white are totally flabbergasted realizing it didn't work and start to fall apart. Thanks, man. Chess (good) vibes!

[@WindReader]

Honestly really great way of presenting. Love how when you went back to certain positions you would recap the options we had in the position and the right move for the line you just covered before moving on to another line. Really helped to remind me of the position and the options available and our responses before learning the next line.

[@Evilanious]

Good video but I'm not playing that. I like king safety.

[@ChessVibesOfficial]

Fair enough!

[@scoutbane1651]

Honestly I might start playing this to start being more careful about king saftety in other positions

[@barza-gaming445]

Yeah it’s like the easy way and the hard way, the easy way is to play normal chess. The hard way is to watch this video 10 times spend 10 hours a day till you memorize it..

[@jerrywhat4799]

Coward.

[@INFJ-ThaneTr]

King is never safe.

[@chingizmusayev]

What a great video. Today I finally was able to apply the lines in real game and have got 99.2 score. An opponent hanged his queen though but it's his problem ) Really appreciate your effort Nelson

[@ChessVibesOfficial]

Good stuff!

[@CST1992]

_An opponent hanged his queen_ Nice bonus!

[@shahnwazhusain9967]

Dude your channel is a GEM.

[@junwei8480]

I like gems, I even steal them

[@fruitlessbeast]

“If you don’t get checkmated you’re going to win the game”. Love that.

[@kruksog]

Really love seeing a full analysis of an opening like this. Great stuff.

[@USNBOT]

This was a great walk through. I play fried liver as white AND black cause at my ELO rating of 1200... ...not many people know the lines all the way through so i come out ahead either way. The plan is to get my rating to go up as high as it can before everyone else catches onto the full lines.

[@MadGamer_666]

Damn I should start playing this I am 900 now. Without fried liver, it was a struggle from 500. Elo. 😅

[@australium7374]

Don’t depend on just the fried liver.

[@jesusd.b839]

I got an ad for liver health 😂

[@ChessVibesOfficial]

🤣

[@AlKidd]

I haven't listened to and watched a better chess tutorial. Fantastic. Now, if white will kindly accommodate us by letting herself become fully committed to the fried liver attack . . . Wow!!!

[@vladimirmokeev2856]

"I checked with the Stockfish, Stockfish says it's better for black...". Man, Stockish lost by black against Alpha Zero or Leela Zero in Fried Liver Attack

[@gamingpuzzled7532]

Stock fish is better…

[@justinpreston4152]

I love when new videos appear saying '100% win rate by doing this' or '90% win rate just by doing this' and you or someone else make a video and show how to beat them :)

[@jeffmassura1650]

Very helpful! The mousetrap illustration made me laugh too :)

[@sudheerreddy4520]

@13:27 When black king moves to e7, queen can move to f7 check and protect white bishop. Then take the rook with knight. Sorry if I missed something.

[@emze563]

after Kd8 its still -4, how does the knight take rook?

[@edoardopetrovic5150]

I analyzed the position with stockfish, after the knight takes the rook, you give a check with your queen forcing a queen trade, and try to exchange your knight for White's light square bishop. This way, the material should be more or less equal (you'd be a pawn down by following Stockfish) but the position in -2. You have the bishop pair, and white's knight is basically trapped

[@des7795]

if you continue check the king with the king will that be a stale mate?

[@danielyuan9862]

@@edoardopetrovic5150 You lost me at "give a check with the queen forcing a queen trade". I don't see a move that does what you said.

[@rasik1173]

This is the most underrated video

[@ChessVibesOfficial]

Thanks, Rasik!

[@Lordridam14]

bro thank you seriously no one gave this kind of content for free keep it up bro u will get a lot of success

[@coxscorner]

I played the Two Knights in my 2nd tournament game many years ago and suffered a Fried Liver and received a double checkmate lol. Id much rather play 5...Na5 or 5...Nd4

[@LennoxLewis86]

Great video! Before watching this I won a game with black going into the a3 line and after Nxd5 I tried walking out of the diagonal with Kd7 instead of playing Qh4. I ended up winning, analyzed the game after and learned that my defence was wrong, and that only Qh4 saves the game. I got lucky. My opponent resigned a few moves later because he failed to punish my mistake and his attack dissipated. I was just up a rook, lol. I found your video looking for ways to defend against the fried liver. I think the two knights defence is great because if they don’t go into the fried liver, then black has a really comfortable game. And if you study navigating the mine field, you’ll have decent chances to stave off the attack. Most players will not be prepared beyond the first couple of intuitive moves. I’m struggling to understand which bishop to block when inevitably retreating my king. Sometimes you need the light-squared bishop, sometimes the dark-squared bishop. I’m relatively low rated though. Maybe I need more practice.

[@lsaille1]

Hey Nelson, I remember watching this video when I was trying to wrap my head around the Fried Liver and it helped me a lot. I've just gone and made an even deeper video (an hour long one) on this subject following as many move 9 variations white could make in the Fried Liver and how it could be countered by Black as well as many mistakes that could be made as the position gets more complicated. I also found one of the most ridiculous engine lines I've ever seen with three brilliant moves involving sacrifices. It's a really fun opening and I try and play it often especially with Black.

[@gira_8961]

I know this video is a little old but I'm happy to say 2 days after i saw this video I went up against this as black and completely won my game glad to learn and get better from watching you

[@Demian_R]

It's worth learning every line against this. Over half your games as Black will probably involve some form of Bc4 & Ng5 shenanigans all the way up to 1500 or higher. I'm teaching a friend every way to play around it as they approach the 800 level because of how prominent it is. Thanks for the video. 😀👍

[@ShankarHegdeAstrologer]

After 8)...Nb4 9)Bb3 line is not discussed. I won lot of games in this opening till 1990 influenced by P. Morphy. During those years there were no engines available in town limits. We had to depend on books. Max. Eue's How to play King Pawn openings discusses the variation of King moving towards queen's side. But when I played it with IM Ravi Hegde he went for the option Na5 attacking the bishop & I lost 10 games.

[@jmagicd9831]

I don’t know whether it’s more fun to refute the Fried Liver with this, or just play a Traxler CounterAttack

[@alt-32]

yes

[@zanti4132]

Alright, another iconoclast! Several years ago, I got into an on-line debate with a chess coach who was telling all his followers (presumably mostly scholastic players) that the Fried Liver Attack was awesome and would win tons of games for them. I decide to play Devil's Advocate and suggested some lines for Black to show the variation was at best unclear - a kid who did his homework could turn the tables by surviving the attack and retaining the extra piece. After a few more exchanges, the guy called me an idiot and banned me from his blog. With that said, the move 6. d4 instead of 6. Nxf7 is legitimately dangerous. IMO, 6. d4 rather than the knight sac is a better reason to avoid this variation. Heck, if you can provide some strong lines against 6. d4, I may start playing it myself.

[@IgorYagolnitser]

6. d4 Nxd4 7. c3 b5! 8. Bd3 h6 9. Nxf7 Kxf7 is playable.

[@09kaustubh]

Just played it today... mind boggling game. I had to give up the queen for two pieces in the middle of the game. I had a rook, a knight and a bishop for the queen. It was great for the win and then I blundered the bishop in the end to end the game in a draw.

[@trainerpreben]

I just really enjoy your videos! Your channel is just blowing me away with really awesome content! Thank you!

[@ChessVibesOfficial]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@TheMineA7]

I played the Traxler into the Fried Liver. I was winning until l made a blunder by missing a check. Then lost hard

[@ChessVibesOfficial]

Yeah Traxler is so tricky

[@magerehenk7579]

I love playing the fried liver against the traxler. because if I dont take the bishop but just move my king, people often dont remember the theory and start to blunder. ofc that stops working at high level, but this opening sees most play at lower ratings anyway.

[@sushantrao1998]

Such detailed prep🔥👍👍

[@谢礼谦]

5:05 I think the best move for white here is Bb3

[@vgzimrlankey5682]

Thank you for the depth!

[@kingrex1931]

Whenever I saw the fried liver I saw Nf6 followed by Bc5 for black. In this situation if black Nxf7 then Bxf3+ and gains a winning position over the next several moves

[@kondor4920]

This variation is called the traxler. There is a ton of theorie on the traxler out there, almost every chess youtuber has already done a video about it, including chess vibes.

[@nope6358]

There's also a counter attack on the fried liver called the "Traxler attack or defense..."

[@alt-32]

yes

[@bernardvanvliet521]

Thanks for this. I've tried it a fee times now and at my level (round 1200) it seems that white doesn't know what to do if black survives till move 12 or so, and starts to make mistakes

[@joelpenley9791]

I usually play 5...b5 as black to avoid the Fried Liver, and have found most people do not know how to respond to that move and it takes them out of their preparation. But I like your analysis and will have to look at it again to see if I want to try it. The most difficult thing with the Fried Liver as black is remembering all the best moves, because like you said, one wrong move for black and it is over.

[@deadlypendroppingby]

cant they just take it with the bishop?

[@joelpenley9791]

@@deadlypendroppingby yes, but this now deflects their bishop, which allows black to play Qxd5. If white is not prepared for this, it usually throws them off. From what I remember, best for white is now to retreat the bishop all the back to c1. Unless the theory has changed on this, I studied all this like 15+ years ago.

[@zanti4132]

One of my former students had excellent results with 5...b5 in scholastic tournaments. As would be expected, most of his opponents played 6. Bxb5, when after 6...Qxd5 he got a position very much to his liking. His bishops were especially nice once they came out to c5 and b7. As for 6. Bf1, yes that is considered advantageous to White, but it's doubtful anyone who isn't familiar with the theory on this opening would play it.

[@masterbeta4480]

11:45 and 13:27 What if white play queen F7?It checks the king , protect both the knight and the bishop, black king has to move while white can take the rook with his knight and still being able to retreat the knight.

[@kryli..7471]

The move i like the most in fried liver is bishop c5 playing the traxler counter attack because most people dont know how to deal with that

[@moothechicken8904]

2:57 I play Nb4 here

[@Knightmovesfirst]

Very good video!! Love the mouse trap illustrations hahaha too funny!

[@GlobalWarmingSkeptic]

I've always just done the anti fried liver to avoid it, but it would be interesting to go into the lines and learn to step through the minefield. I'm rated about 1050 and I think I can probably get to 1300 just on memorizing these lines given how often this is played at my rating level.

[@crazyrun2024]

anti fried liver just wastes a move and lets white bust open the center with d4

[@alexanderroc3359]

thanks for this video....nicely in depth and helpful....will apply this next time someone plays the fried liver attack

[@Girish-Navani]

17:38 Bishop should be moved to c8 as the pawn is pinned. You should check mate king with queen

[@acousticpon]

Thanks for the clear instruction. You are a natural teacher of the game. Can you give us some background on how these various names came into being? Fried liver attack for instance😂

[@HakobYackobster]

11:39 , after Nxc7, white could move the bishop to e6, that would save the bishop and attack the king.

[@enlivenrex9997]

UNEXPLORED ATTACK - At 23:16 when the white queen is at f5 and the black king is at d6 and it has only c5 and e7 squares that are not under check then a check by the white knight when it moves to b5 has not been explored by you as that is a forcing move instead of the line you pursued from this point by moving the white queen from f5 to f7. Or let's go to 23:21 with white queen at f7 and the white knight gives a check through b5 then the black king would have no option but be forced to move to c5 and putting it at the most forward point of the black line.

[@othmanzaza4898]

At 12:30 there is a queen check the king if white plays the queen before the night takes rock which is queen f7 check which is bad with all due respect

[@natecz8141]

I'm just a casual player so correct me here, but @11:26 if you can get the first bishop, the only way for white to stop you from taking both bishops and the other rook would be to sac their queen... That would be crushing

[@ChessVibesOfficial]

Not sure if that's the only way to stop it, but you're right that there is certainly the threat to get both bishops and other rook if white doesn't be very careful. Thanks for commenting!

[@natecz8141]

@@ChessVibesOfficial hey, thank you for the reply! Really glad I found your channel - very informative and a calm, easy to follow delivery.

[@joeldick6871]

It's also important to know that if white goes 8.0-0 black should go 8...b5 because then if 9.Bxb5 you can go 9...Nd4. If he retreats with 9.Bb3, you can also go 9...Nd4. The best try is 9.Bd3 and then 9...Nd4 10.Qe4 c6 11.c3 Nf6, and now if 12.Qe1, there's 12...Nf3+! 13.gxf3 Qxd3. A nice little trap.

[@WindReader]

Yoooo, just played a fried liver game and won. The difficult thing is everyone never plays these lines. They just play the moves that start it. After Nc3 you have no idea what they are going to play. I’ve had a lot games where I had to review afterwards with the engine to discover the best move. I’ve slowly been getting a better idea of the moves I can play in certain positions and it finally payed off. I just played solid defense and then eventually my opponent started running low on time bc it took him forever to decide each move. Eventually he just blundered away the game once he got under 20 seconds.

[@jaideepshekhar4621]

But what do you do when the opponent plays King to d1 first, before attacking your Knight on b4?

[@robertnewshutz1081]

The problem is that white has a stronger move than 6.Nxf7. 6.d4 ! and black suffers just as much, but is not up a piece.

[@joonakiiski8185]

Exactly! It's called Lolli Attack. In many lines white also sacrifices a knight to f7. There are dozens of lines which are very dangerous for black. And the line is probably also objectively good for white. So what's the point of refuting fried liver if there is something much more dangerous to deal with?

[@IgorYagolnitser]

@@joonakiiski8185 6. d4 Nxd4 7. c3 b5! 8. Bd3 h6 9. Nxf7 Kxf7 is playable.

[@IgorYagolnitser]

6. d4 Nxd4 7. c3 b5! 8. Bd3 h6 9. Nxf7 Kxf7 is playable.

[@ethanguo4219]

This is so true. Many people act like it's some trap after black accepts fried liver when it's only maybe 0.7 at best for white. Even with perfect play, white still will be down material until the endgame where maybe white can get pawns going for some chances. I would much rather prefer to be black here and parry the threats rather than being white and finding some ten move tactic with maybe a pawn going in the end or hoping my opponent blunders a mate. White cannot get the piece back, period. Engines can get a few pawns and play. For humans a piece is way better than some pawns.

[@ukgamerzhd8181]

6:53 "And I went very deep with the chess engine" 😏

[@ytbqiqayon]

You say the two moves White can choose from for move 9 are 9. a3 and 9. O-O, but I always thought the best move for White in this position was actually 9. Qe4, defending c2 and pinning the e5 pawn, in preparation for d4 (which both attacks the now pinned e5 pawn and opens a line for the c1 bishop...). It would be nice to see how (or even whether!) Black can defend against _that_.

[@bmebmwmm]

Engine is saying something else, kd1 early or qf5 and white is up +2

[@cuberchez818]

One word : *TRAXLER*

[@dinogiancola6261]

Commenting again amazing video. Can you do one playing as black against the danish gambit accepted? It’s a similar idea if there’s a way to maintain your advantage with the 2 pt lead

[@theonlyron]

Mousehunt! That's one of my favorite movies ever!

[@rocker1260]

16:40 this is wrong. Qd1 is much stronger with Re1 to follow.

[@tgunsofficial1208]

Fried liver:haha so powerful so good Traxler:HAHA shutdown go brrr

[@ChessVibesOfficial]

Oh yeah I need to do something on Traxler too

[@VocabClub]

excellent explanation.

[@joeldick6871]

The a3 ...Nxc3 a/bxN ...Nd5 motif is very common.

[@mikeroll9868]

Awesome video. I am glad to know a way out.

[@robingemanaru1547]

4:30 New objective:Survive

[@simonharris4873]

6:33 The king isn't defending the knight while it's being attacked by other pieces.

[@learnwithdowan]

This video is great and very useful for my children

[@karelspinka3031]

At 5:26, the computer recommends Bb3. What should be the next line?

[@Philip8888888]

I couldn't find a good response to Bb3. I always end up in a losing position after that.

[@godfreyofbouillon966]

When the engine says black is better what it means that black is better with both sides playing perfectly on an engine skill level. In other words it means precisely jack**** in a real game between two human players. Especially so if you are below master level. And as one chess Olympiad showed even grandmasters cant always see/remember all the perfect moves you have to do as black to avoid getting fried despite black being "better" according to Stockfish.

[@chair1694]

Lol, the comparison at the intro was on point

[@archimedeis]

Coming here after I lost to this in 9 moves. Hope to end this threat once and for all.

[@juka88juka]

I prefer traxler defense for fried liver attack.

[@TheSusBus64]

No one: Nelson: Objective Survive

[@bradkirsch9529]

Or just do the Traxler gambit. But Its great info for those of us who like to play fried liver as white.

[@jeanphillippes2196]

Reminds me of trying to defend a 1 - 0 lead in a football game against Brazil.

[@RahulPandey-xb6gb]

Yes i am very good at the King Sacrifice

[@ChessVibesOfficial]

👏👏

[@AustinNagy]

Thank you bro

[@laskerflesto4078]

Lol I was surprised to see that my usual response to Nb4 as white isn't even analised! I play Qe4 defending c2 and threatening a3 the next move (and I think the position is unpleasant for black from there, they have to save both knights and you can continue attacking with stuff like d4/castle/rook e1). Is this bad? I guess not being a good line explains why my opponents usually seem confused by it.

[@mbrusyda9437]

You mean Ng5?

[@dinogiancola6261]

Very first game after watching this got the Italian as black, then won with this main line 😂

[@tomasletko7198]

Thanks for this tutorial,it saved me a Game.

[@yugang4430]

What movie scene was that?

[@japman5699]

I had to subscribe after seeing your this video. Good channel Good presentation with great content.

[@nevg9932]

Love this man!

[@Robi2009]

0:00 Wow, I wish I've seen this video earlier. I had this exact position in a simul against 2600+ GM and blew it :( I made it to 40 move mark, but then the GM had mate in 2 so I resigned. Could've played it much better

[@firefeathers8121]

Don't worry even if you know these moves you would probably still lose. With perfect play white is still slightly better and gms know how to capitalize that advantage. The only thing that would change that gm would be probably impressed by ur theory

[@willsterjohnson]

After Nb4, stockfish plays Kd1... what do I do here? I've been playing against a 3200 engine for an hour... I can't find a path that doesn't lead to M20 for white

[@Bradex.]

What about surviving the lolipop attack? (d4 instead of Nxf7)

[@ChessVibesOfficial]

I need to research this more - first time hearing the term lolipop attack!

[@Bradex.]

Its actually called the loli attack

[@polychromaa]

@@ChessVibesOfficial its called the lolli attack, after Nxd5 you can play d4 and it can get super tricky, perhaps even more than the fried liver

[@Bhuvan_MS]

Lollipop attack 🤣

[@IgorYagolnitser]

6. d4 Nxd4 7. c3 b5! 8. Bd3 h6 9. Nxf7 Kxf7 is playable.

[@triplayzatd1347]

9:25 Ne4 and Qf7 mate

[@MoonBurn13]

Isn’t one of the better defenses for Black against the Fried Liver - I forgot its name (Max Lange Counterattack??) - but anyway it’s where Black counterattacks with …Bc5.

[@leeharper8513]

Yes it's the traxler counterattack literally played it against white and won.

[@Safarimark50]

Thanks for that great vid on what's becoming a much more common white attack. Now that's 2 types of fried liver I love . Great vid very informative and entertaining how about if black puts the fried liver on white has it a name and if not can I call it the fried Kidney attack.

[@joeldick6871]

Just won a classical game with the Fried Liver as black.

[@jonathanwork7070]

I don’t play Nxd5 on move 5 because of the Loli attack where white plays d4 after nxd5.

[@advayagarwal9929]

I like how fried liver is so overpowered that all you need to do is "survive" to stand a chance against it 😂

[@mikaeljiskovkristensen7861]

i played black a match with these following moves. white used thee fried liver attack. white played E4. then i played E5. then white played Knight F3. I played knight C6. Then white played bishop C4. I played bishop C5. Then white played pawn D3. I played pawn D6. Then white tried the fried liver and played knight G5. Then i played bishop E6, and blocked whites bishop from the F7 square. Then white took F7. I played Queen F6 with a double attack on the knigh and whites F2 pawn. Then white took H8, and won my rook. Then i played queen take F2 check mate. I know he didn't know my little sweet trap. If he wanted to survive that one, he should had played rook F1, to defend that F2 pawn. Yes he would had lost the knight, and been a piece down, but still in the game. But instead he fell strait into the big fat trap. I don't kno if that trap is invented. But i figured that scholars mate trap out. And now all that fried liver players have something to play with.

[@waklu6683]

At 23:59, what if white plays queen f7 check!

[@Mallor998]

One word for you: Traxler.

[@taranin7817]

13:29 - What happens if white queen goes to c2, instead of taking the rook or bishop?

[@usernametaken017]

Great stuff

[@bubbahottep8644]

¿12:31 ... Ke7; Qf7+ protects the bishop and allows Nxa8 next move. What'd I miss?

[@davidwhite533]

Can't White force a draw by following Qf7+ with Qd5+?