How vegan burgers can help save the planet

[@akashdobhal9893]

I am from India where 30% of the population is vegetarian, even though I eat meat I have never believed that vegetarian food is boring. People mainly in the west who think this really need to try real vegetarian cuisines and should not limit it with Brockley and salad.

[@SoleroStrike]

Outside of India, vegetarian usually means you’re eating a lot of salads and other foods that are very healthy but don’t usually have a lot of flavor. A friend showed me Indian vegetarian dishes and it was the first time I realized a vegetarian dish could have just as much flavor as a meat dish. I’m still not vegetarian but it was an incredibly eye-opening experience.

[@codered4422]

In India people live in warm climate and mostly do nothing but selling fairytales about Krishna. Here in the world of adults people need energy and toughness to work hard in often harsh weather conditions.

[@akashdobhal9893]

@@codered4422 First of all India is a continent size country where in someplaces temperature go as below as -23 Degree Celsius and as high as 40 degree Celsius.

[@LennarthAnaya]

I'm vegan and I love Indian vegan food, it's just a matter of experience the west doesn't have yet.

[@maudepotvin8660]

Indian cuisine is the best ! So many spices and taste ! I'd eat vegan Indians cuisine anytime over a steak !

[@makatogonzo]

Just make it cheaper than meat. It costs like 4 times as meat at the moment.

[@The40yearoldVegan]

@Deise Vilela disease, antibiotics, drugs, chemicals, pathogens and risk of zoonotic diseases come from meat. Nah,I’ll eat a black bean burger instead.

[@BirdmanVeganFuture]

Gov subsidizes factory farms

[@Adolf_Hitler283]

Try indian food. It tastes better than a lot of Meat dishes and costs like 3-5x lesser

[@Melanie____]

Great idea. ✔️ Write to your local MP with your idea .. they could subsidise it.. perhaps even tax a polluting company to subsidise plant based meat.

[@MrToritani]

I'm from Japan. The most interesting thing to me in this video was the fact that 76% of British people say that they care about the environment. I have never seen people who care about the environment in my country although I have met many people from different social backgrounds. Also, I have never seen vegetarians nor vegans in person here. This makes me wonder if people in Japan will switch to meat alternatives ever after the prices get lower and the quality gets higher.

[@olgapawlak2197]

Maybe you can check out Ryoya Takashima's channel. He doesn't speak much about why he is vegan, but he does interact with environment activists and participate in many events. He also has an amazing cooking channel with a lots of vegan recipes. It's called Peaceful cuisine :). From the Japanese people I know, I actually feel quite opposite of what you said. They do care about the environment more and more, but they consider it more as a part of local and social responsibility. People in UK do say they are concerned about the environment but I feel like without saying it, Japanese people also do quite a lot. It's just not as much covered in media :)

[@dewaldt8104]

@Shep Raynham that is just going to cause more conflict in the public sphere.

[@S2Tubes]

@Shep Raynham You can't convince politicians with the tiny amount of support you'd have, so it will never happen.

[@GustavMahlerHorn]

Really? That's crazy considering Japan is one of the few countries with a Chinese influenced Buddhism tradition of not consuming meat. (Shoji ryori). Besides, the fad diet "macro-biotic" is Japanese and you can find such restaurants all over. Lastly I've been to Japan often and have met lots of vegans and vegetarians in Japan. It just depends on your social circle, similar to anywhere else..

[@mcdoogs3037]

@@olgapawlak2197 Interesting, are you from Japan? Or is this from a KZbin lens? Just curious.

[@drrd4127]

Meat alternatives? The truth is dairy alternatives are taken over the world. My mum is obcessed with dairy and I am vegan, she asked me if I drink Oatley milk. I was thinking "my mum knows about Oatley milk" LOL. It is a product becoming as common place as milk itself.

[@someguy2135]

The dairy industry is on the run. Consumer demand change is a big part of the reason that two of the biggest dairy companies have recently filed for bankruptcy, and many dairy farms are closing. We can do the same for meat, if enough of us boycott it. Every time you make the right choice at the store or restaurant, fewer animals will be bred into existence to meet the demand. (Edited for typos.)

[@normhanson981]

That’s great to know.

[@normhanson981]

A significant part of the population of Asia are lactose intolerant, plant based milks will be adopted faster in that part of the world.

[@ruffuzx4058]

more than 6 billion people consume dairy products in the world you are delusional, milk is healthy and makes you stronger :p

[@someguy2135]

@@normhanson981 More than 2700 dairy farms have closed recently. Here is a quote from the Washington Post article. - "Borden Dairy filed for bankruptcy Sunday, becoming the second major milk producer in as many months to seek Chapter 11 protection. Chief executive Tony Sarsam said the company’s debt burden, coupled with industry head winds, left Borden with few options. “This was our final resort,” he told The Washington Post on Monday. Dean Foods, the nation’s largest milk producer, filed for bankruptcy protection in November. From major corporations to small farmers, milk processors are seeing their margins pinched as wholesale milk costs climb and consumers gravitate to dairy-free options such as almond, soy and oat beverages."

[@doingtime20]

Vegetarian here for over 20 years. It amazes me how big the milk alternative section in the supermarket has become. It used to be very small and extremely expensive. Now it's on its way to overtake the milk section, it's incredible.

[@turtleanton6539]

Yuuup

[@sarahbank9365]

I think part of that is due to more people becoming aware that they might be lactose intolerant and the symptoms of it.

[@benlewis5312]

It has more to do with people realizing that they are partially lactose-intolerant, but yes milk alternatives have taken over. It would be nice if they could do the same with cheese

[@Melanie____]

I encourage you to go wfpb vegan for the environment.. everyone of us needs to take ‘their next step’.

[@CesarCepeda2014]

We, middle clase /working people, are simply price sensitive. Make it cheaper and appealing and we will go for it.

[@hannyverryna3891]

In my country, meats are quite expensive, egg is the cheapest option. So, for middle class, we barely eat meals unless for a special occasion. However, chicken is still affordable and easy to find. So, being a vegetarian/ vegan is quite hard if we want to eat outside, because vegan meals is far more expensive than chicken meals.

[@Deathmastertx]

The big problem is that meat is largely not priced at its true cost. Producers and consumers are essentially subsidised because the global population as a whole pays for the emissions from feed, methane and deforestation. If there were a carbon/greenhouse gas tax, then people would face the true cost of meat. And it's not just meat vs non-meat. Beef would become more expensive more than chicken under such a tax, and meat producers trying to reduce emissions or use novel methods - like lab-grown meat - would pay less tax. It's really the most all encompassing, efficient and market-based way of dealing with emissions but because it's a big scary tax, many governments have had to resort to more haphazard and inefficient means like many different subsidies and regulations.

[@monkeyman321]

In my country, meat consumption is a luxury most can’t afford. If the developed countries just stop subsidizing the meat industry, a lot of our climate problems will be easily solved.

[@BirdmanVeganFuture]

Gov subsidizes animal products and factory farms tho, Defund them

[@GarudaLegends]

@@monkeyman321 no thanks. no one wants to eat your peasant food. meat for life. i will just spend all my money on meat.

[@ellis_artyana]

I'm not vegan nor vegetarian. But I mostly eat veggies because I like them and simply can't afford meat as my daily food. Meat is not cheap here.

[@GabeMiller2SpoonsOfDoom]

by design. They're trying to get people used to not being able to afford the foods people actually need. Look at how countries are being locked down, their people treated like assets instead of humans. Trying to get populations weaker, hungrier, easys to opress.

[@Deathmastertx]

I try to have a vegetarian dinner or two every week or so to save money and environmental reasons. It's not much but if we all did it it would help at the margins. I'm from a quite English-derived food background where meat is often the centre of the dish and, personally, the easiest vegetarian meals for me are vegetarian Indian curries. They have a real depth of flavour where you rarely feel like you're missing anything.

[@SuperBhavanishankar]

hi mam. which country is it?

[@Magnulus76]

Economic vegetarianism is a thing. In some countries its not rare because typically meat costs alot more to raise and transport. But in the US, there's huge agricultural subsidies for meat that obscure its true cost.

[@Magnulus76]

@Deise Vilela "Vegan Deterioration"? The people that do those videos have no expertise to come to the conclusions that a vegan diet is unhealthy. The American Dietetic Association doesn't believe vegan diets are inherently unhealthy.

[@eddiejohnhurst1]

You will never take my MEAT!!!

[@GoVeganForTheAnimal]

It's not yours. It belonged to the sentient being whom it was stolen from. Everytime you eat meat, you are stealing someone else's life away from them.

[@GoVeganForTheAnimal]

@The Blue Manchester 🔵 Why do you not care about innocent sentient beings who are being oppressed?

[@mecdrum7]

Been vegan for 10 years just getting healthier at 69 heart like 16

[@normhanson981]

Well done , tremendous, I’ve been veggie for 40 years , no aches and pains at 58.

[@someguy2135]

I'm in my mid 60's and after years on a pure plant based diet I still have more energy, and a lot fewer aches and pains from inflammation. I love to do chin ups, weight training, hiking, and Freestyle Frisbee. I always get blood test results suitable for framing, and need no meds. One of my doctors said I am "disgustingly healthy" after I went plant based.

[@normhanson981]

@@someguy2135 well done mate , fantastic. It’s the only diet . I never thought about it but it’s reaping rewards now .

[@someguy2135]

@@normhanson981 My partner who is older than I am was a vegetarian for many years, and now a vegan. We both reap the benefits, and love to hike and play Frisbee together.

[@gurdevkaursandhu5323]

Im a vegan, and im very proud of it, go vegan, be a hero, save the world.

[@codered4422]

The only way to save the world is to stop multiplying poor people.

[@trinity824]

@HunterBidensCrackPipe Than how was Siberia on fire

[@gurdevkaursandhu5323]

@Deise Vilela thats yr opinion not mine.

[@afcfan9310]

Correction: not, we humans eat a lot of meat. Westerners eat a lot of meat. We Asians also eat meat, but how much meat we eat in a week, westerners eat in couple of days. That’s the problem.

[@maudepotvin8660]

I've almost stop completely red meat a year ago. It's better for my health, it's better for my planet's health and it's better for my pocket ! It just make sense !

[@kunikloy477]

If plant-based meat or lab meat can reach at least 80% deliciousness and about the same price, I am happy to stop eating live stocks.

[@Phoenix-qu3ot]

except youre now eating processed junk that will give very little benefit, even from synthetic vitamins. the human body grew on and depended on meat for millions of years and it actually contains almost everything you need in nutrients and even satiation. Many animals even those we believe herbivorous will eat meat, nothing wrong with nature when it comes to health and human functioning.

[@kunikloy477]

@@Phoenix-qu3ot People can live perfectly fine only eating vege for more than a thousand years. Human is omnivore, not carnivore, don't overstate the importance of meat. Humans can live without meat, but can't live without plant. Look at those heavy red-meat consumed countries like USA, Australia, Argentina, their obesity rate is pretty high. And I don't know how you get your information from, but herbivores cannot digest meat, physically. FYI, lab meat is identical to natural grown meat, but doesn't require to slaughter billions of live stocks annually and can reduce pollution and destruction to environment greatly.

[@blueisthecolor3463]

@@kunikloy477 Well then people should be encouraged to eat more chicken than red meats then. No need to give up meat while also getting necessary proteins. They are way easier to raise, less resources needed and also popular already. Realistically most people won't give up meat to become vegetarian let alone vegan.

[@kunikloy477]

@@blueisthecolor3463 You are not wrong. People have been encouraged to eat chickens and fish rather than red meat for decades. However, if we have the alternative to grow meat in labs and produce little emission, why not choose lab meat. I am not the biggest animal lover, but if you know how chickens we eat nowadays are produced, any human with heart will feel disgusted. Small chickens are crushed in blenders. Chickens live their whole lives in a extremely small cage, waiting to be executed when they are ready to be eaten. So, if we have the opportunity to spare billions of lives every year, why not.

[@BlackMamba-lt8oe]

@@kunikloy477 why should i have heart for others , do others feed me when i m hungry, i will eat real animals and ur talking about disease, what do people of japan eat 😂😂😂😂tell me

[@dr.tafazzi]

friendly reminder that there's an extenction on the chrome plugin shop that lets you see the dislikes

[@jay_chappie2026]

whats it on this video?

[@nancypeiffer6427]

You should do a video on the meat-substitute consumer food sector in the Netherlands. Consumers buy a lot of non-meat meals here. There is a large range of meat-substitute meal products in the regular supermarkets in NL. Some of the statements in your video do not represent the daily choices of people living in the Netherlands.

[@PHlophe]

Nancy Pfeiffer , I hoped over to NL from BE last month and i was curous about this. but yikes its greasy AF and is very very bland in taste.

[@elenacortes8239]

It is mainly a cultural question and also being vegan or vegetarian costs more money,That’s is a reality

[@muratsuyur]

if Messi, if Lewis Hamilton , if Serena Williams can do it with Vegan diet , that boxer guy can easly do it too, so we should stop searching for excuses and stop cruelty , stop destroying planet now.

[@coop2011r]

No matter how delicious that vegan meat, it will never ever replace the essential amino acids that we get from real meat. Look at those people in Africa who are 90% vegans, they all have protruding bellies because of hormonal imbalance and their average life years is 50. Humans have no special intestinal bacteria that could convert plants into protein and essential amino acids. We will start to see 20 years old that looks 50 because of Confusion and irritability, Diarrhea or constipation, Fatigue, Headaches, Irregular or fast heart rate (arrhythmia), Muscle cramps, muscle spasms or weakness, Nausea and vomiting, Numbness or tingling in limbs, fingers and toes.

[@MHjort9]

It's nutrition VS environment. Nutrition wins every time for me.

[@abiscan00]

This is BS, Uruguay it's one of the greenest un-polluted countries in the world and we are a mayor meat producer (free roaming) and I'm still waiting for argument that make sense. Gracias

[@PHlophe]

Pedro, iHola! bandit. we are talking planet, not single tiny country. Chico loo further than your house.

[@henrychan8954]

Is India the largest vegetarian country in the world? What do you think about their environmental conservation? Natural vegetables, fruits are better options where we get a balance diets compare to these man made meat.

[@Melanie____]

You’re right - Whole food plant based it best for health.. but plant based meat is a fantastic step for those who eat meat. Plant based meats are certainly better for your health than meat.

[@blabit4983]

Great video. The animal ag industry is so cruel and wasteful.

[@EveHyland-in8jb9ti9y]

Yeah, I mean I only really eat eggs but always make sure they're free range or from the farm beside us. Some of those videos especially the massive shut in pig farm industry is absolutely horrifying, the way they are kept and treated. They would get shut down if that happened here I would think. But places like the US are massive pieces of land for animal control to keep a check on. China has the worst emmisions in the world and they'll never fall in line.

[@Brookhaven_evil]

Time to eat bugs.

[@aabahdjfisosososos]

Wrong

[@oliverko3072]

@@EveHyland-in8jb9ti9y you're eating a babys you should be ashamed 🙄

[@someguy2135]

@@EveHyland-in8jb9ti9y Kudos for being an ovo vegetarian. You should look into how all eggs found in stores use a system of killing newly hatched male chicks by grinding them alive or suffocating them. Egg laying birds are a different breed than the ones used for meat, so that is why they don't use them for meat.

[@someguy2135]

The narrator in the video said- "...plant based alternatives seemingly an acquired taste..." Some of them, like Beyond Meat, and Impossible burgers have been getting rave reviews in blind taste tests. I saw one video here on KZbin where 5 of 8 meat eaters preferred the taste of the Impossible burger over the cow burger. If anyone wants to see it, let me know, and I will try to find the link.

[@GabeMiller2SpoonsOfDoom]

poison, just like the baccine sir thanku

[@cocoanene1775]

Go vegan. And give a chance to the voiceless! They feel pain and fear just like you ! 💯

[@anulfolantigua6291]

Wao I am agreed with The Economist in this one

[@lofaszjoska6336]

Would eating people solve methane issue and overpopulation? Asking for a friend.

[@aarondoyle4717]

“When the food runs out we’ll still have each other” Jeffrey Dahmer(probably)

[@perlasandoval7883]

eat a dead body it's legal

[@1LuvMLPFiM]

sus

[@normhanson981]

The uk government still subsidies meat and dairy , madness.

[@krishvids608]

@You Tube no?... Subsidies can be pretty useful for lowering prices whilst not having inefficient state bureaucracy

[@GoVeganForTheAnimal]

US government subsidizes the cruelty to animals too, even more than UK... that's why it's less common to see vegan options in fast food places in the USA than in UK

[@geetaramakrishnachow]

Telling same lie over and over doesn’t make it true

[@feffermickel]

There’s an incredible amount of vegan options in UK supermarkets and more every month or so. its a lovely step

[@Nighthawk-8050]

I live in Chicago I'm willing to try plant base meat. The price of meat in the stores are outrageous

[@Melanie____]

Do it!!!! ✔️ 😊 And try adding other whole food plant based meals to your routine! 🌱 Like a Mexican bean meal or something Everyone needs to take ‘their next step’ toward the change the planet needs! Oh and the more whole food plant based you go the more chronic health conditions you’ll write off in your 50s onward. ✔️ It’s such a win!

[@clemericaarcilla766]

I hope it’s AFFORDABLE.

[@dylreesYT]

I'm down for cultured meat and impossible burger. I'm proudly part of the masses on this issue. If it uses less land and less water then hopefully it can be made cheaper too (depending on the cost of infrastructure and whether it'll become more or less labour intensive). I'll pay 10% more right now for it to be an impossible burger. I want them to become ubiquitous.

[@GoVeganForTheAnimal]

Does that mean you are vegan now? Growing plant foods is already cheaper than animal products and it's a lot better for the animals & environment too!

[@dylreesYT]

@Deise Vilela before I even looked up what you asked; I knew you meant "inherently" not "by definition". Don't make that mistake again. I looked it up and there is an argument to be made that there is iron, vitamin B3 and phosphorus in beef burgers which isn't in the impossible burger. There's also the argument that the impossible burger is higher in calories than a regular beef burger which may be interrupted as less healthy. But there's calcium and dietary fibre in the impossible burger which isn't in a regular beef burger. There's also more potassium and sodium in the impossible burger compared to a regular beef burger. Over all, considering the similaires and differences it would be more of a subjective debate for an average person and arguably without longer term studies it's arguably hyperbole even between arguments by nutritional experts. I'd say they're both as unhealthy as eachother but, if all goes well, the impossible burger will have a drastically smaller greenhouse gas impact on the world. If scaled up, there's potential (but far from a guarantee) that it will become cheaper to produce than animal products. I do see your point but overall I would argue that exclusively based on the example of impossible burgers versus beef burgers that impossible burgers win. As for vegetarianism in general, they've got an uphill battle to convince me (and the world) away from chicken. As for veganism, I don't believe that will ever become dominant in my lifetime.

[@dylreesYT]

@Deise Vilela Veganism BY DEFINITION is "the practice of eating only food not derived from animals and typically of avoiding the use of other animal products". You made the mistake again. As for your argument about many of those nutrients not available in plant "foods", they can be added- which they are added in processed foods like the impossible burger. They are available in tablet form so therefore they can be added to plant-based (emphasis on the word "based") food. You may never get those nutrients if you just eat some wheat from a field but you can add it to wheat-based products. The impossible burger has Vitamin B12 added (Source: cookinglight article "What Is the Impossible Burger-And Is It Even Healthy?")

[@GoVeganForTheAnimal]

@Deise Vilela That is one example. Vegans don't exist on only beyond burgers, most vegans don't even bother with those

[@SkyP1e]

Enthusiastic vegan since June 20th 2016 (Yes I marked the date and celebrate annually) Also if it helps anyone, Impossible, Beyond, Gardein and Lightlife imitation meats taste GREAT.

[@macombus269]

Thank you for being vegan! 😃🌱💪🏾

[@kalyanchakravarthy8433]

Again... money always wins in this capitalistic society. Making them affordable is the only option 💸

[@normhanson981]

It is the only way to wean some of these dumb people off the meat that is killing them .

[@Blaze6432]

Sadly they need to cut all government subsidies and let people pay real prices on animal products.

[@kalyanchakravarthy8433]

@@Blaze6432 still these organic products and alternative meats are considered as elite people food. More research should be done to bring down the costs and make them accessible to masses.

[@GoVeganForTheAnimal]

The cost issue can be resolved with enough people who care to encourage social change. Pressure government to remove subsidies to animal agriculture so plant alternatives are more affordable. Eating vegan is already cheaper but premade meat alternatives are where the kicker is.

[@kalyanchakravarthy8433]

@@GoVeganForTheAnimal agreed but eating vegan is not at all cheaper. People have got overly habituated to diary and poultry products. U jus can't expect them to completely avoid them. Alternative meat products, soy milk, almond milk, plant based protein powders etc.. work to an extent but they are so much costlier and Taste is also a major factor here.

[@d3w3yd3c1m4l]

Maybe talk about overpopulation.

[@5267w]

overpopulation isnt an issue land usage is

[@d3w3yd3c1m4l]

@Nushia Nobody wants to live like the third world. Facts.

[@d3w3yd3c1m4l]

@Nushia dafug you talking about, out of the top 10 most populous countries, only the US appears on that list. Out of the top 20, only the US/Germany/Japan, together accounting for a fraction of the third world/developing countries. Overpopulation is a problem.

[@SuperBhavanishankar]

Hi. Do prawns feel pain? is it ok to eat prawns?

[@NAEMA911]

I'm not sure abt this, some says prawns never feel pain. I practice pescetarian, because eating seafood doesn't need to slaughter them.

[@entropicpedro]

If it has a central nervous system it feels pain...

[@SuperBhavanishankar]

@@NAEMA911 i like it

[@SuperBhavanishankar]

@@NAEMA911 what do you think of fishing i mean using that equipment it induces pain

[@guesstime6445]

How is meat causing or effecting climate change?

[@kerruo2631]

If you want us to eat plant-based meat, you've got to make it cheaper first. The prices are ridiculous.

[@mr_manhunter]

The only reason traditional meat/dairy is so cheap is because the government spends hundreds of millions to subsidize it. If those funds instead went to vegan meat alternatives (as well as an increase in demand) the prices would drop dramatically. It's much cheaper to grow soy/peas/other ingredients used to make meat alternatives than it is to actually raise cattle to maturity.

[@leedclinton5026]

They should call it "LAB BASED" not plant base.

[@JP-dl5rt]

In large quantities they wouldn't use labs

[@iain3713]

There is an actual distinction, lab based meat is too expensive to really be a thing right now

[@robccastro]

They are not the same thing. In the video they presented both plant base (e.g. impossible foods) and lab grown (like the chicken meat)

[@GoVeganForTheAnimal]

Doesn't matter much what you call it as long as animals don't suffer.

[@razvancristiandan9533]

The guy with the vegetarian girlfriend reminds me of children’s behaviour. He wants an alternative. Like when parents trick their children with: “you want this or that? but you can’t have both”, i.e. changing two wanted items for a unique choice. Unfortunately, there is no Planet B. “Alternative” (tasty or not, sic.) is a choice forced by necessity in this situation.

[@razvancristiandan9533]

@Deise Vilela , do you have some reliable sources for that? Food production is responsible for about a third of emissions , according to some stats (can find them, if needed).

[@mxr572]

ersatz meat sales are down 10% now from last year. expensive, poor taste, chemical ingredients. read the labels. natural lean meats, the best.

[@conanclarke9308]

Measuring carbon footprint is a very complex process, for example most land in the west of ireland isnt sustainable to produce crops. It would take a lot more of pesticides, fertilizer and more draining of wet land to produce crops in adequate yields, and their is a high chance of harvest loss because of the damp climate. Beef farming in a lot of cases supports Biodiversity , by cattle low grazing grass allowing light for a lot of plants to grow and its dung to nourish the soil. Also a lot of beef farmers lead very simple lives they dont travel long commutes to work, less likely to travel on foreign holidays, and are great for repurposing things that be other wise be thrown in landfill, like tyres, for preserving pit silage ie winter feed. I think a lot of urban eco warriors are very ignorent of beef farming.

[@tivanleak1372]

KZbin comments are cool, but reading the science in reputable journals is better.

[@firstname4337]

don't try to use logic with liberals -- it makes their head hurt

[@firstname4337]

@@tivanleak1372 so you've got no actual facts in your rebuttal ? typical

[@jerrymiller9039]

@@tivanleak1372 The science does support grazing in many places. Read about the dustbowl in the US that came from growing wheat. Now they graze cattle there and it is much more environmentally sound

[@jamestodd7419]

All I'm reading are excuses to not go vegan. It's pretty well established that animal agriculture is a major culprit to green house gas emissions. Even if beef farmers do all of the things you've listed... it doesn't change the fact that beef is horrendous when it comes to emissions. And for what? A cheeseburger? Everyone cares about emissions until you tell them they shouldn't eat meat. It's single handedly the most pragmatic way to cut emissions.

[@deansmith3540]

Does the factory use electric power to produce the patty? If so how clean are those powers?

[@someguy2135]

Should I follow the advice of a bro who does kickboxing, or an Oxford professor who has done extensive studies on the subject? Watch "The Game Changers" documentary. Some world class athletes eat a plant based diet!

[@jessetorres8738]

"I respect the fact that you don't eat meat. Please respect the fact that I won't eat fake meat."

[@leedclinton5026]

✔️✔️✔️

[@Timotheeee1]

did you actually try it ?

[@merrymachiavelli2041]

Sure, nobody is forcing people to eat things, but those aren't equivalent positions. One is based well-evidenced arguments about sustainability, ethics and health, the other is based on what? Not wanting to something 'unnatural'?

[@michaelkruck-weimuller31]

I respect the fact that you have a low negative impact on the environment. Please respect the fact that I have a high negative impact on the environment.

[@jonathanedwardgibson]

@@michaelkruck-weimuller31 I do not have to accept grade-b characters like yourself choking my son’s life huffing petroleum-fed critters. You do know oil is a vital component of the fertilizers and nutrients we feed to crops and animals… but that is ‘clean’ somehow? I see you standing on my son’s neck. You can’t make me not see that.

[@seiwarriors]

If it's cheaper than the traditional way then I'll change and most people will since if your working class you will always change for the cheaper price, generally.

[@zhuoyuelyu]

I think insects are also an option? I've heard they are high in protein and easy to breed. 🤔

[@radiocorrective]

Watch Earthling Eds video on insect farming itll explain the pros and cons!

[@dentatusdentatus1592]

I AIN'T EATING NO COCKROACHES!!😝😝😝

[@MikeEchague]

@@dentatusdentatus1592 I think it's more of crickets and grasshoppers that are being used.

[@kaisat1025]

@@MikeEchague they have tobacco you support tobacco cancer causer!

[@ClevBaek]

For the vanity and self-centeredness of some, we will all pay the price of losing trees and biodiversity. Maybe we'll need to go through pain and despair in order to wake up everybody...

[@oliverko3072]

Well it is your own problem you will never force everybody not to eat meet. You can't even force everyone to vaccinate. And if government will try to force ppl there will be rebellion cause eating it's very personal

[@ClevBaek]

@@oliverko3072 It's not a matter of forcing anybody. And it's not my own problem. I'm talking about taking care of the only place we all share and live together. Not talking about stopping meat consumption. If you prefer thinking through a self-centered perspective, I can understand you. Cheers!

[@EdeYOlorDSZs]

Great topic Economist! Thank you

[@syedmaricar9946]

Everything takes time to get going.

[@syasyaishavingfun]

There's no point trying to tell people what they should eat. What you should do is have stringent regulation on the part of producers and only allow certain type of practice. For example, cows should not be penned in tight enclosure and given some space to walk around. This will naturally increase the cost for the producers and that transfer to the consumers thus they will eat less. People have no problem not eating meat, but if they have money of course they will eat meat. Instead of telling them to eat fake meat just make the price of meat higher.

[@Jimmy4video]

The first step is to stop subsidising meat production. If meat were competing on a fair market the price would already be much higher. After that as you say, adding legislation to how meat is produced would help a lot.

[@CompulsivePageTurner]

But sadly cows penned in tight enclosures are better/less bad for the environment than their grass fed counterparts in most cases. And I think there's a point in trying to tell people what they should eat because one day we will have to choose between producing crops for livestock or producing crops for us humans. There's simply not enough space anymore for meat production, and deforestation for cattle farming is already alarming. As more people worldwide make it out of poverty demand for meat will increase (the price doesn't matter since the richest are already the biggest consumers) and if we do not talk about these issues and offer alternatives to meat we're doomed, climate change and soil degradation will reduce the space available for essential crops and loosing precious calories by producing meat will be absurd. (7 plant based calories are needed to make 1 calorie of meat, and don't get me started on CO2.)

[@sadieesther9721]

You know that calves are born and raised outdoors for up to 12 months right? And are only confined and fed for 30-90 days… right?

[@syasyaishavingfun]

@@sadieesther9721 you know different place have different regulations right?

[@syasyaishavingfun]

@@CompulsivePageTurner i agree that rich nations like ours will still continue eating and ruining the world but the fact of the matter is nobody cares why a McD burger is so cheap. Eventhough I said there should be regulation on animal treatment so that I know people will vote for the person that will make the burger cheap regardless of the environmental impact.

[@ironboy3245]

At this point the only thing stopping me from going to cultured or plant based proteins is cost. Once it becomes as cheap as or cheaper than traditional meats we'll probably see a mass switch

[@lorddabian5030]

I believe that meat should face the same regulation as cigarettes, a tax on it, no advertisement, scary packages on the meat, and "meat kills/meat causes" or "meat is bad for the environment" Why you might ask? When they introduce these regulations, cigarette consumption has declined exponentially leading that the younger generation does not have the interest to use it because there isn't aggressive marketing on it. As a result, these younger folks prefer the alternative (vape -> plant-based meat). Rising demand for this alternative meat would lead to innovation within this industry, making it cheaper, greener, and even tastier as a result. I would appreciate feedback on this thought. kind regards,

[@lorddabian5030]

I believe that meat should face the same regulation as cigarettes, a tax on it, no advertisement, scary packages on the meat, and "meat kills/meat causes" or "meat is bad for the environment" Why you might ask? When they introduce these regulations, cigarette consumption has declined exponentially leading that the younger generation does not have the interest to use it because there isn't aggressive marketing on it. As a result, these younger folks prefer the alternative (vape -> plant-based meat). Rising demand for this alternative meat would lead to innovation within this industry, making it cheaper, greener, and even tastier as a result. I would appreciate feedback on this thought. kind regards,

[@ironboy3245]

@@lorddabian5030 yeah no, that wouldn't work. We've been conditioned for generations to know that smoking is bad, and even before said conditioning there was slowly mounting evidence of smoking having health problems. The issue is that meat has been proven to be relatively safe for consumption. A meat tax would work, but what really needs to happen is for prices to drop. People will take the cheapest option available most of the time, and if that's plant based/cultures meats so be it. There is no real need to artificially inflate prices, get the cost low enough and the market will self-correct

[@katazggolam9619]

What about animals?What if it was dogs. Would u still wait or do something about it?

[@ironboy3245]

@Benjamin Do the issue with that thought process is that even tripling the carbon cost of plant protein still makes it ~10 times less costly to the environment

[@JayendrenSubramoney]

Once plant based/cell based meat scales and hits the tipping point, its pretty much over for traditional meat. Animal agriculture will collapse dramatically because they will not be able to compete on cost and production.

[@lekabadu8749]

stop jet travel could also save the planet it represents half of the co2 emissions

[@Urallrobots7313]

Yes this is the future 🙌👏🤟

[@AlessandroMarcolin]

this really is a huge improvement, but people are stubborn; how to you convice them to quit animal meat and switch to animal-free meat ? I coundn't even convince my wife ...

[@AlessandroMarcolin]

@Deise Vilela my wife has not looked at any nutrition data, hers is just a prejudice as it is for everyone else and I beg to differ on the fact beef from animals is superior. Carbon emissions come from a multitude of sources and beef production is one of the biggest, with so many negative externalities that one could write a book.

[@snowqueen6158]

Do vegan meats have harmful preservatives ?

[@theresasecore9372]

In 2016 vegan UFC fight Nate Diaz beat Conor McGregor, you don't need to eat meat to sustain your muscle levels, in-fact most people consume more than 2x the amount of protein their body needs, which can have deleterious impacts to your health, least of all shortening your life span. Many elite athletes are vegan or plant-based during the season, you can recover faster, causes less immflamation in the body and supplies your body with clean protein, the more veg you eat the healthier you'll be....you should be tracking fiber targets not protein, most everyone will hit the recommended protein target w/o even trying (people that don't hit the protein target tends to be intentionally malnourished or can't get enough food ie. food shortage) - if you can't live w/o meat, at least eat cultured meat, do it for earth

[@perlasandoval7883]

you either eat meat or take huge amounts of meat alternatives those are the options

[@dewaldt8104]

Nate Diaz eats fish and eggs. Also vegan athletes are a minority.

[@mencken8]

What will “save the planet” (sic) is way less two-leggers on it, and I’m not talking birds. Various people have made attempts at figuring the carrying capacity of the Earth re: the human population. They vary, which is no surprise, but most are an order of magnitude less than seven billions.

[@Mr1159pm]

I will consider meat alternatives when bill gates and his ilk start flying commercial

[@EDVM13]

Thank you.

[@SASSJMSCBC]

The guy from What have I learned should watch this video

[@teethompson7756]

Like most people I was against any type of artificial meat but I've come around slowly. I do like Burger King's Impossible Whopper but I don't like Incogmeato, but for the most part I could live without meat.

[@josuefernandezcgtic]

Entonces los patrones ya pidieron que nos quitarán la carne.

[@annahmwendar-chaba8904]

I hate how these videos put the majority of responsibility on solely consumer choice! Let's spend some time talking about availability and affordability of vegan products in different socioeconomic areas, cities, countries! Within the US alone take a road trip through the middle of the country and see how many vegan food option you're able to find! This is only exacerbated on a global scale! If we don't start tackling MACROlevel policy and change as the MAIN priority when it comes to addressing climate change aka GOVERNMENTS', MAJOR CORPORATIONS' roles in making sustainability possible for ALL, we will not make any progress. Individual consumers can only impact so little when the entire social and economic structure/system of the world is built to destroy it. And trying to guilt or shame people into becoming vegan will never work if they can't even afford it or find these products in their localities... (not specifically done in this video but something I've seen a lot in vegan communities)

[@smiffff]

Supply and demand determine a lot of things, if there would be a huge demand of alternative meat I think there would also be a bigger product range

[@msallies]

Agree! The same people that were cutting down rain forests to grow cattle for profit are now saying don't eat meat. They can't have it both ways. Constantly, profiting off of mother Earth.

[@falsificationism]

1. It's not just about climate change. It's also about environmental destruction (of our waterways, our old growth forests, and biodiversity more broadly which was mentioned). 2. More importantly, it's a moral atrocity on such a massive scale most of us can't comprehend. And let's not include ocean plastics and the collapse of the populations of sea creatures. 3. Protein fear-mongering is overrated. Dude, most of us are working at Best Buy. We're NOT professional kickboxers. Let's stop assuming protein is some insurmountable barrier and keep it real: this is mostly about habit and taste pleasure taking precedent over our collective responsibility for the planet, and our personal responsibility to non-human animals.

[@someguy2135]

I agree! Watch "The Game Changers" documentary that features plant based world class athletes, including mixed martial arts fighters. One of them, Nate Diaz beat Connor McGregor for the title.

[@someguy2135]

@Nushia The largest organization of nutrition professionals officially declared that a vegan diet can be all you need to be healthy. “According to the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, appropriately planned vegetarian, including vegan, diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits for the prevention and treatment of certain diseases.Apr 27, 2018" Link on my channel under "About."

[@falsificationism]

@Nushia Which vitamins? You realize iodine in milk comes from the iodine used to sterilize cow udders, right? That's somehow NOT a supplement? You realize the B12 in beef comes from injections given to cows, right? Omega 3? You realize that comes from algae, right? A vegan Omega 3 supplement from algae is a more direct source than filtering it through the life and tissues of a fish. Protein? Yep. The only place on earth where protein is synthesized is inside of...wait for it...PLANTS. Do go on. Actually, don't. Just do your homework before commenting mindlessly to defend your fee-fees.

[@falsificationism]

@Deise Vilela 🤣🤣🤣

[@someguy2135]

@Deise Vilela Eating meat also includes dietary cholesterol, excess saturated fat, and IGF-1 which promotes cancer growth. Many meat eaters are B12 deficient, as well as being fiber deficient. Vegans have lower rates of cardiovascular disease, type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, obesity, and multiple types of cancer. That was the finding of the Adventist Studies. They also found that the only dietary group studied with an average BMI in the recommended range was the vegan group. "In the United States and the United Kingdom, approximately 6% of adults younger than 60 years have vitamin B12 deficiency, but the rate is closer to 20% in those older than 60 [33].Apr 6, 2021"- NIH Link on my channel under "About." then "Chronic"

[@marianasalles242]

We need to eat vegan🌱🌎🙏🏻✨

[@wwlee5]

I still bench 275 into my late 40's. Rarely eat beef but mostly tofu. Tofu fulfills all amino acids meat provides. Where I live, soybeans are cheap and Im a cheapskate.

[@oliverko3072]

Soya and rice are one of the biggest emitters of methane

[@michele1009]

@@oliverko3072 Yes, and 80% of soy grown goes to feeding livestock. It's an inefficient system.

[@oliverko3072]

@@michele1009 soya naturally emitting a lot of methane

[@ryynerwicked2762]

Cool I can do the same thing an I eat what ever meat I want soo big deal

[@michele1009]

@@oliverko3072 Yes, if we weren't feeding 80% of it to animals there wouldn't be as much methane. You get double the methane when you grow soy and feed it to methane producing animals.

[@beatrizcascelli]

Amazing!

[@mta1567]

They took out the dislike counter for these types of video 🥱 🥱 🥱

[@lucasito7332]

meanwhile i'm eating popcorn

[@alparslankorkmaz2964]

Nice video.

[@bycarlsjunior]

Nearly 89 % of carbon comes from to top 1 procent... Thanks

[@esa2236]

I actually like this idea. Sometimes a veggie patty can taste like meat.

[@kirkstinson7316]

No, no it doesn't. Ever

[@lvcsilva]

I WILL NOT EAT THE BUGS!

[@rslowfan]

Growing Kobe quality beef will trickle down from fine dining and pretentious foodies to general public.

[@containedhurricane]

I thought the lab meat is the future

[@RaceLever]

Plant Based Meats > Lab Grown Cloned Animal Frankenmeats... ;-)

[@someguy2135]

Plant based meats are healthier. Red meat is a type 2A (probable) carcinogen, according to the WHO. After lab meat is available, I will try it out of curiosity, but only once.

[@mr_manhunter]

Absolutely. I don't think many people who are currently vegan would eat it (myself included), but for those who refuse to adopt a plant-based diet, it's a much better option for the health of the planet and the well-being of animals.

[@farismustafa5389]

@@someguy2135 yeah but I will have to eat tons of that meat to get enough protein

[@someguy2135]

@@farismustafa5389 Beyond Meat has more protein per ounce than cow flesh burgers. Just Google the nutrition facts for both.

[@Jenny-613]

I just feel that some people want the vast to make efforts to satisfy their own greed.

[@phucnguyen-ce8qx]

Whatever my meal needs to have different types of meats, seafood, vegetables, fruits, and carbohydrates. Missing one of those makes me feel a lack of something, I used to have a full vegetable meal and it was like sh** so no more

[@turtleanton6539]

Agreed !

[@jarrodyuki7081]

yes.

[@Shivaroz9]

I read the comments and… Fist stage of grief: DENIEL.

[@sardoriskandarov3681]

The future of the world is at steak!

[@tz__ii.u2759]

Y el cáncer por la comida genéticamente modificada y artificial? Nada? Jeh.

[@Sky-jj3mt]

I am an Ethical Vegan for over 1 year. I love all animals and I do not want to harm/suffer any animal to get their own meat, milk, egg, leather, etc, or any cosmetics which is experimented on animals. I just want to say if meat comes from the chicken cells it means a poor, voiceless animal suffer. So it is not ethical! Also, a plant-based diet is not veganism actually. There are Ethical Vegan people like me who stay away from any kind of animal products. Also, there are healthy vegans (plant-based) and environmental vegans. These are doing this because of their own health or environment, climate concern not for animals. I hope this kind of video can raise awareness.

[@aarononeal9830]

The economicist needs to talk about Ecosia they are a search engine that plants tress.

[@noelsoong777]

How can one enjoy Grey steak like that

[@GoVeganForTheAnimal]

By letting the innocent cow keep his/her flesh. Leave the cows alone

[@organizedchaos4559]

No, I don’t think things will change til we have lab grown meat

[@徐鑫-q3t]

even if we eat meat , that doesn't mean we don't concerned about climate change. what we need focus on is how to eradicate the emission of food system. other than just let people give up their right to eat meat.

[@Mesterjakel7]

To '' eradicate the emission of food system'' we need to stop eating meat, dairy and eggs, it's wildly inefficient. Not to mention the cruelly of the animal ag. industry, furthermore it creates pandemics and anitbiotic resistance, clears forrests and destroys our water ways, just to mention a few reasons to ''give up meat''. It's not about what we give up, it's about what we gain; compassion, ecological stability, cleaner drinking water and better health.

[@smarmyskits]

I'd eat lettuce provided it was coated in cultured meat heme the thing that contains that addictive taste Meat possesses

[@RaceLever]

Try the impossible burger , it has plant based heme iron to help you satiate your vamp bloodlust addiction... Although you should try to get over the heme since it is showing itself to be problematic for your body as we learn more about nutrition... ;-)

[@Phoenix-qu3ot]

@@RaceLever So now insanely processed lumps of something that mimicks what we crave is much healthier and reccomended than the very thing you still crave and try to mimick on a vegan diet and that we have eaten for millions of years?

[@anulfolantigua6291]

@@Phoenix-qu3ot Meat has PUS Tumors Antibiotics strogens etc etc if I were youI Wouldnt consume that garbage

[@Phoenix-qu3ot]

@@anulfolantigua6291 source?

[@RaceLever]

@@Phoenix-qu3ot... Yes Buddy, considering eating animals/animal products is linked to most of the top Human killing diseases and a ridiculous amount of other problems I would say the plant based mock meats are still better for you overall and at least certainly not any worse in most cases and they are certainly better for the nonHuman Animals and the environment... ;-)

[@FearTheImpaler]

focusing on meat is what the oil companies want. the carbon cycle in meat is a circle. it all comes from plants that regrow. its a cycle. but oil is a one way street.

[@Derizo]

Following that logic we should still cut animal agriculture, as it is taking up so much space that we could use to reforest and capture carbon.

[@FearTheImpaler]

@@Derizo not necessarily. if we depopulate, sure, but as we are a growing planet still we need more sources of food. animals are often grazing on rocky grasslands unsuitable for vegetarian cultivation. you can make the "lets go back to rainforests" comment about literally everything. parking lots, spread out suburbs (much less space efficient than apartments), etc etc. rainforests are great, but we are going to expand one way or another. no aspect of human life is infinitely sustainable the way we do it now. suggesting we target the people keeping us all fed under a false assumption it will do anything to help the climate is bad journalism. eg all those plant burgers are vaccuum sealed in plastic, etc. even the solutions have their issues

[@Opti-Mystic]

The truth is that most of us will not be able to pay for the meat when climate disasters ruin the animals' food production and the price of meat skyrockets. Then, we will be struggling to grow plants for _us_ to eat.

[@Opti-Mystic]

I miss the flavour of meat so i compensate by dousing my veggies in gravy. It helps 😕

[@BirdmanVeganFuture]

What about birds who are most abused in the largest quantity

[@aabahdjfisosososos]

I’m not going to eat bugs.

[@Jimmy4video]

Who mentioned bugs?

[@aabahdjfisosososos]

@@Jimmy4video me

[@Jimmy4video]

@@aabahdjfisosososos why, no one expects you to eat bugs

[@aabahdjfisosososos]

@@Jimmy4video I don’t want to eat bugs. Not interested. Also, if you ever been on the internet, you’ll find many articles saying how eating bugs has more protein than meat and how people should eat it

[@stephaneroux5866]

I beg to differ. How much energy do you need to produce a similar quantity of proteins in a lab vs. having a cow grazing on a crop of land ?

[@radianceray3034]

The future is *"Everything Sanatan"* .... if you debate fairly, there's no denying it

[@malichali]

Its people from the West who eat a lot of meat and not "we humans".

[@rasputozen]

I really think we can do this. This gives me hope!

[@rasputozen]

@Deise Vilela I see the opposite in my life; omnivore/big-meat-eater deterioration all around me. The vegans I know are the healthiest and most vital. And I'm not vegan for environmental reasons, I'm vegan because I like treating animals how I'd want to be treated if I was them. The fact it's better for our health and the world being vegan would nearly eliminate global warming by itself is a nice bonus though!

[@JoseFranciscoCosta-py5fs]

I have a question for the meat eaters in the comments. I'm curious, would you eat dog or cat meat? If the answer is "no, that's cruel" or "no, poor dogs/cats", then why eating cow meat is just fine? They also fear death and feel pain.

[@razvan50087]

I won t because I am not used to it. People in China eat dog without any problems. It s just a cultural thing.

[@slicer2938]

i actually have eatin dog, not cat but yeah i would eat a cat. not my pet cat but a cat in general i would eat. plus i would go saying that as for some meat its against their religion and so on.

[@someguy2135]

@@slicer2938 Be sure to tell that to people when you meet them. It will save time later when they find out and never speak to you again.

[@allyip6403]

We should also stop cryptocurrency when it comes to greenhouse gas too...

[@NotDanValentine]

Switching to plant based and cell based meats needs to happen relatively quickly in the first world. It's not a matter of choice, but rather a matter of survival, to drastically shift away from the destructive legacy method of meat production to these more sustainable future methods.

[@someguy2135]

@Nushia The largest organization of nutrition professionals disagrees- "“According to the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, appropriately planned vegetarian, including vegan, diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits for the prevention and treatment of certain diseases.Apr 27, 2018" Link on my channel under "About."