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[@PhilipDeFranco]

Zoella or EA?! If you had to spend money on one, what would it be? 😂😂😂

[@xuchia117]

Philip DeFranco screw them both

[@doubledragon1215]

EA

[@SadMarinersFan]

Philip DeFranco neither.

[@jinchuriki7022]

Philip DeFranco Ea so i can get lootboxes that fund great games like star wars battlefront 2015

[@phill82245]

Neither. Both are hot garbage.

[@MrTempestilence]

you forgot to mention that EA removed their refund system once people started refunding and cancelling their pre-order.

[@planetaryewe739]

Honestly, this is the worst part of the whole thing. How can you even get so scummy?

[@WyvernWolfe]

Wait, isn't there customer protection against not being able to refund for something you haven't got yet? Shouldn't that apply to pre-orders?

[@aloysakai4454]

To be clear, they removed the refund button on their page. You can still call them up and get a refund. Takes a lot longer and is bad on their part

[@KawaiiLolaa]

So they made it harder wow.

[@darvenberdrer6019]

If you understood how the EA page works, the refund button only shows up on the actual release date of the game, meaning if you want to return it wait till the 17th

[@supercanadian0640]

Can't spell steal without EA

[@Kenchana_]

Can't spell meal without EA, i don't know what it means tho

[@asalways1504]

Another word you can't spell without EA is cheat.

[@andriod8014]

The Ace Of Spades Nothing new, EA always done this. FIFA, you could buy in game currency and then buy packs to get better players.

[@Przemko27Z]

Plunder.

[@Przemko27Z]

Loot.

[@EmzaOVods]

I dunno. The Zoella thing rubs me the wrong way. That so much money for a couple cheap things with her name on it

[@VanV1408]

EmzaO she just said something about it, the prices aren't up to her its up to the retailer selling her stuff

[@SharpStudios0]

people can charge what ever they want especially for a brand, a picture of a guy on a horse (ralph laruen) stiched onto the corner of a shirt goes for way over priced then it should. Also Zoe had no control of the price.

[@lafxcraft]

The fact that it doesn't tell you what you're getting is what's bullshit about it.

[@SuperBigblue19]

lafxcraft- It does, at Boots.com. By the way, Zoella or someone else said "there's a sucker borne every minute". Oh, right P.T. Barnum said it.

[@flybriur]

Vanessa V -- that isn't an excuse though. She and the people that help manger her business dealings should have made sure that they have input or veto power as it relates to pricing, as well as other controls, and if they didn't get certain controls that would help ensure quality and satisfaction with the product and/or promotion, then they shouldn't have done the deal to begin with. Claiming you don't have control or claiming ignorance is not an excuse -- she should have known and she should have had more control over the promotion. This hopefully is a learning lesson to her, and it may also be a wake-up call that she may also need to get different people around her to help manage her business dealings, because this one was a clear failure. I would never give my name/brand over to any promotion without knowing every intricate detail of it, and neither should anyone else. If you do, you deserve some blame (and should humbly accept the blame as well) if there is understandable backlash due to the customer being shortchanged in some way.

[@srishtiverma1701]

What I don't get it she put fucking confetti in it like wtf how can she be proud of it 😂

[@andrewb4499]

I don't feel like the IGN story was sexual harassment at all. I feel like the guy definitely did not mean to offend her in any way. I, again, don't think this was sexual harassment at all.

[@2Papinos]

Dude your comment made me fell quite happy. Those to lines 'was sexual harassment at all" line up perfectly... WELL DONE

[@jamesoren7238]

Nah, if it was unwanted attention, it was... but like the lowest form of it. Don't get me wrong, that's still not right, but when the conversation is rape, sexual assault and industry wide cover ups, it's not really the time to dilute that conversation and start talking about flirting in the workplace just because the guy works for a rival media company

[@budemawa411]

Wait... WHAT?!? With that IGN story it just seems some guy being flirty, a girl getting uncomfortable, reporting him, then him backing off. This is a straight forward story, the man should not be fired nor should he face legal charges. Lumping this in with the actual sexual assaults happening in Hollywood is ludicrous.

[@toddydog3]

It's less about how he handled it and more about how the company handled it. She brought up she was unconfortable. He was her boss. If my boss flirted with me Id be pretty uncomfortable too. Everyone has the right to feel comfortable at work. The fact that the company came back and put the blame on her was wrong. Saying if she wasn't a women with big boobs this wouldn't be a problem.

[@frederickray129]

toddydog3 he wasn't her boss. You don't have a right to be comfortable at work.

[@mandolen3317]

BUT SHE'S ANXIOUS NOW... NOW THAT POOR THING HAS TO EAT DOUBLE OF HER USUAL DOSE OF BENZOS

[@Firth33300]

Oh, you don't ? Because you do. That's why harassment is forbidden.

[@creamskye]

People aren't saying he should. The story is more about IGN's handling not the guy.

[@Dauntless1]

Defranco advent calendar out next year?

[@Satherian]

Containing 12 pencils all with the name 'Philip' on them at a cost of 100 pounds

[@chayden153]

Dauntless I'd buy it

[@Chem2011]

The pencils can have the background pillow pattern. Lol

[@CastilloOfficial]

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[@tazzy191]

Oh snap. Yes. This needs to happen

[@courtney4128]

I used to be barista at Starbucks and had this customer come in quite often. He was middle aged (I was 21 when this happened), married, a teacher, and had a kid I think. It started out really harmless and then he started doing weird things like asking me if my car was the blue one parked outside, gave me a copy of a book he had written with all his social media accounts written on a post it on the inside cover, asking me if I had read it endlessly, found out I was pregnant and got my baby gifts (we barely knew each other and I hadn't told him--he had overheard other employees talking about it), started messaging me on facebook quite often then when I wouldn't respond would come into the shop and ask me, (etc etc etc) to the point where I blocked him because I was starting to get weirded out. I didn't want to deal with it anymore in case it developed into something creepier. My fiance was pissed when I told him and agreed these were creepy things for someone to do when they barely knew you. A few weeks later this guy apologized to me for making me uncomfortable (a co-worker had explained to him why I was suddenly trying desperately to ignore him). I accepted his apology and he never bothered me again. I would never in a million years try to get this guy fired or ruin his life becasue he made me feel uncomfortable though. There's a huge difference between someone raping you or touching you/explicitly talking to you sexually VS someone being a bit creepy and making you feel uncomfortable. It bothers me that a lot of these allegations are just coming out now. LADIES, if a guy sexual harasses you or rapes you SAY SOMETHING. Report it immediately. Get him in a situation where it can be proven, whether it's in a room where there's a video camera or something. There needs to be proof. That sucks for real victims out there, but you can't expect everyone to believe you "just because well I'm a woman and well that should be enough." Women lie allllllll the time. And these matters have to be taken just as seriously as any other crime, which means there MUST be evidence.

[@courtney4128]

Exactly. I had a civil disagreement with one of my friends over this and my point was you wouldn't expect everyone just to believe the victim coming forth saying "this person murdered my dad" or something like that. Everyone would look to that person and ask for proof, evidence. Rape is hard because the evidence is only there for a short amount of time. And that's what makes it so harmful. But I feel if we put more effort into teaching girls (and boys too!) what to do if something like this happens to them, that they should go to the hospital straight away after, then things could improve. An allegation isn't enough. Which is unfortunate, but just because someone claims they were raped doesn't mean it's true. Especially now adays where we have people accusing others just to ruin their lives/careers.

[@jamesrussell2936]

I've definitely creeped girls out before, and frankly it was because I just want to be liked by beautiful women. Not all of them of course, that's ridiculous. But I can't help it sometimes. I just want to be liked. And if a girl who looks like Kallie (like at 0:54) shared personal info with me regularly, it would really give me sense of worth. And I know I'm not supposed to hold other's opinion of me as my personal view of my own worth, but I get worn down sometimes and I'm just like "Dang, I wish I had someone like that," who doesn't really think much of me. "Oh, I view you as a 'mentor'." Yeah, "thanks." And to but blunt and rude (sorry to him), a guy like Vincent Probably hasn't had hardly any attention from women at all. Although, I have no clue, really. Sometimes I'll see some girl on the internet or TV or something and go "Wow, she so beautiful..." and imagine what it'd be to talk to her about things I think about sometimes. Similar to how Vincent told Kallie that "Men don't like skinny girls. You're perfect" and she would appreciate that. But I know that's weird and simply will never happen. But it still makes me said. But that's how it is. Sorry this was weird/creepy, but I was a bursting bubble just wanting to get this out.

[@Helgacabbage]

@James Russell: There's a difference between using lame chat up lines / bad flirting and sexual harassment. That girl just needs to learn the damn difference. (I say this as a woman). So please don't worry about telling someone they're pretty or whatever, just try and pick up on social cues to be sure you're not making someone uncomfortable. If you think you might be, back off. It's straight forward.

[@jamesrussell2936]

I agree with you. I've always had trouble with people. I partly boil it down to my parents not having social skills, and therefore can't teach me something that that they don''t know themselves. But step by step, am I right?

[@mcnultyssobercompanion6372]

I understand this comment is 2 months old but I'm just coming upon it now and I have to say it's a bit brilliant. I'm not a feminist but as a leftist I'm sympathetic to feminism (or any ideology advocating for oppressed minorities). And I'm more than happy men like Weinstein, Kevin Spacey, and Bill Cosby are being justly crucified. But the last month or so I've personally become very uncomfortable with how closely the MeToo-Movement is inching towards "Salem Witch Trial"-territory. This IGN-story is a fine example. Clearly the dude-in-question is a creepazoid who needs to work on his boundaries (not unlike your creepy baby-present-buying coffee-customer). But shutting the whole joint down and not working because HR wouldn't go ahead with axing him (or whatever they would've preferred) is, frankly, disturbing. I actually give a shit about the MeToo-Movement, a just movement, and would rather not see it brought down by a precipitous loss of credibility. I remain hopeful but wary.

[@tamaram3119]

Ok... as a woman, I feel obligated to defend other women, but a PERSON SHE TALKS TO EVERY DAY AT WORK TOUCHED HER ARM AND TOLD HER SHE HAD A NICE FIGURE. Come on! The dude thought she was into him too and flirted a bit, she wasn't, he backed off. He's not some ''blow me or you're fired' monster, obviously. She's making actual sexual assault cases be taken less seriously.

[@greenanubis]

Yes, its tragicomical.

[@chrisparker5796]

Fake fake fake Lina.

[@shaft9000]

something drives this frivolity... unscrupulous attorneys, perhaps.

[@TiagoTiagoT]

As a human being, I feel obligated to defend other human beings, regardless of gender; and this includes people accused without evidence.

[@Bill-zp2mt]

TiagoTiago Agreed! Does not matter if you are a girl, boy or man, woman. I feel obligated to defend any human being, not just "Women".

[@allon3word]

Just saying that EA's comment the most downvoted comment in history doesn't quite do it justice. The second most downvoted comment in history is only -24k. This is a HUGE difference

[@scitechian]

Sounds fishy to me.

[@zacharymiller613]

AND the 2nd most downvoted comment literally asked to be downvoted

[@Godivarealness]

Fckn confetti.. oh come on. LOL I could easily buy all of that stuff from the Dollar Store and it would be the same quality as that shit.

[@ravynramon]

Real talk. Seems like shes just trying to cash in on her popularity.

[@shitariajackson9707]

EA is about to be under more fire if my Sims 3 game crashes again..

[@KesumaofEO]

Is there something wrong with it? Mine keeps doing that too for weeks crashing randomly within 10min so I thought it's my PC

[@shitariajackson9707]

KesumaofEO Mine was doing the same thing for a few days. I uninstalled and reinstalled everything and it was still crashing. Apparently one issue was that NRaas updated their mods recently (my mods were working fine without updating until this issue occurred), the game stopped identifying my graphics card so I had to tweak Graphics Rules and something else.. A .dll file disappeared, and some cc randomly corrupted. It still crashes when I try to save the game sometimes, but I think it's because I leave the game open for hours before.

[@blindtreeman8052]

Shitaria Jackson my pc caight fire trying to run sims 3. Its an old potato

[@berrycharm]

Shitaria Jackson try cleaning cache files

[@snozeberry99]

You can't win Anakin, I have purchased "The High Ground" paid DLC.

[@mzamethodman7134]

You just won

[@whogivesashit5118]

"YOU DONT KNOW THE POWER OF MICRO-PURCHASES!"

[@Apek1120]

Internet gold.

[@thenolifegamer8520]

Gus Woolf hi my iPads glitches I have to comment sorry

[@Hollyclown]

Gus Woolf YOU WERE MEANT TO DESTROY THE PAID EMOJIS, NOT BECOME THEM!

[@KazumiKiguma]

Looking at the IGN guy's stuff as well as her claims, as a guy who's generally the one people go to so they can vent and such, I'd hate to have a co-worker like her. If what he's claiming is true, of course, then she basically just used him as a tool and when he tried to actually be, you know, a human who felt like he was close enough to her because of their talks that he could try to make an advancement (and not even anything really sexual either, even she's not claiming that he felt her up or anything), she starts making claims on him? That's fucked up. If you don't want to be anything more with someone, just be honest about it with them, don't get management involved unless it's actually a serious problem, but from even what she's claiming, that doesn't sound like a serious problem.

[@GOffUnit]

Amen. I feel way worse for this guy than I do for her. Kinda reminds me of shirtgate all over again.

[@michellenguyen3987]

not many people commented on the zoella story, but what they are doing is almost to the point of false advertisement. although the pricing is controlled by a third party, zoe herself has contributed to the mess by approving of the product using her name and brand.

[@AmeerahMuhammad]

Michelle Nguyen that makes no sense. Its her product. So of course it would have her name on it. But the pricing is the retailer’s choice. They are literally two different things

[@MrStylesp9]

At 14:46 I was like 'oh man Phil brought his sexy voice. This is going to be bad for Zoella' 😂

[@tylerchannell6868]

As for the sexual harassment claims, I personally find it hard to believe what he did was sexual harassment. I also find it odd that when he asked what he did wrong BOTH women refused to tell him in what way he made them feel uncomfortable. How can you expect someone to do better if you never express what they did wrong... just my thoughts.

[@rabbitguts2518]

Tyler Channell exactly! It would be like shouting at a puppy for pissing on the rug 3 days later. If they don’t know what you want them to stop doing they’re obviously going to keep repeating the same mistakes.

[@JokeRmakesPie]

Exactly!!

[@KaleSerpent]

That ....... is exactly how I was thinking about the story. But IGN pussied out and apologized anyway.

[@taleril5815]

I kinda feel like we're going to be seeing a lot of this for awhile. Also I kinda don't blame them for trying to protect their brand, with this # boycott everything culture we have in 2017.

[@CaptainSweatpants90]

Exactly! I believe Plagge when she says she FELT harassed, but I also believe she never showed any signs of feeling this way to Ingenito himself. Because for some reason, people tend to act like everything is fine and then go behind each others backs.

[@PixelJunks]

Micro-transactions are the cancer of video game industry.

[@tammyreid46]

Nick Otaku *amen brother*

[@DeepakKumar-ch9un]

Nick Otaku and the developers are making billions treating the cancer instead of curing it by removing it completely. Just like real cancer.

[@maxdrags3115]

Nick Otaku Nope, stop lying to yourself.

[@rebeccamiller3248]

As a woman this is going to get me shot. A lot of these women have been traumatized. As a rape survivor and childhood survivor of molestation I feel their Pain. But some of these coming forward now feel like they are blowing minor stuff out of proportion. I wasn't there so I can't testify to what happened. When your young you may say things in a joking manor that leave you open and even though you were horrified at time. You still have to take some responsibility in life and determine if destroying someone for a comment and not a physical action such as actual sexual assault is worth being public opinion against you are them. The comments are wrong but you were raped you got feelings hurt. Time to grow up kids words hurt but they don't break you.

[@rebeccamiller3248]

Sorry you were not raped and public opinion being against you and them. I hate typing on phones.

[@mitigozman-pop2]

Preach!

[@degen83]

Rebecca Miller I was sexually abused when I was younger, I know this type of stuff happens. But all of these modern cases of "sexual harassment" are females being told that if a guy talks to you that is harassment, so they are blowing things out of proportion. They assume everyone has taken their women studies course that didn't exist 5 years ago and comes from the same mentality of "all men are sexist". These women are not traumatized, they are just told they can get benefits and attention or free things or special treatment just for being a victim. And modern culture promotes this victim claiming. The media tries so hard to latch onto all cases of a female claiming to be abused by a male and so does social media. When I was growing up men would make compliments and it was understood as a compliment. Now if a man dares to speak to a woman it can be sexual harassment if any woman decides it is. And this is not progress. Nobody benefits fro this, least of all women who learn they can just complain to an authority figure who fights all their wrongs. They do not have to learn to put on their big girl pants and deal with things in life.

[@rebeccamiller3248]

degen83 I agree with you. Saying or doing something to a child. Physically molesting or groping or out n out physical assault is wrong. Threatening you about work or hiring you is wrong. Sorry most guys are over grown children who think telling a woman she is beautiful by saying, " Nice Ass Baby!" Is not sexual harrassment it childish on the male part n over grown emotions on the female. Yes it makes you uncomfortable but you don't ruin someone's life or career over it. Again people sticks n stones break bones words don't hurt you physically. If a man says something that makes you uncomfortable say it to him..."I don't like or feel that comment was needed let's keep it professional." Make sure you say or write it down hell if you have to record it but handle it right there n then. In this case she did but he felt there was evidence it went both ways. Don't just share your experience because all are on the band wagon to do it. Again any one who had this done to them under age of consent should speak out. But grown ass adult women grow up. A guy telling you he wishes he could get his youth back n "go all night" is not sexual harrassment unless he tells you to your face he wants you to help him try to do that. In this report nothing like that was said. You felt uncomfortable you reported it you felt unsatisfied bringing it up years later because a creep like Harvey w or Kevin S are finally caught doesn't make you a hero it makes you an attention seeking child. And you diminish the real victims and make their stories seem like not a problem. Perfect example 4 year old in a bath tub grown uncle comes in touches the kis then shoves his appendage in said kids mouth is wrong and soul scaring being told your beautiful and he would like to be able to go all night is just him being a jerk and you saying you were afraid of losing your job but you still went to he n they investigated and found you both responsible isn't a crime. It's just being petty. And for those interested that was one of my first memories my grandmother caught him then bought my silence with toys. As an adult I found out he had raped my older sister when she was 7. That's sexual assault and having to meet him at family gatherings n be nice is a bitch but you service it. Happy ending to my story he lost his family, his home and income and walked in front of a train. Karma is a bitch.

[@degen83]

One of my first memories was being abused in a foster home by an older kid there. I was doing what I thought was ok but looking back at it it totally was sexual abuse. So i Know this happens, but teaching women and girls that when a guy compliments you that is harassment is not helping. The message it is sending to guys is don't talk to women, and it is not teaching girls that there is a healthy way to talk to boys and that not all boys are just waiting to sexually harass you. If someone says they are abused we need to investigate and gather evidence. If there is, we need to have the processes in place so we can hold them accountable for what they did. But if there is no proof we cannot just assume guilt based on no evidence, or just because the accuser is female and the accused is male, that is just sexism plain and simple and if we are trying to progress to where there is no sexism than nonsense institutionalized sexism like that has no place and must be called out, exposed, and ended when it happens. A man complimenting you is not harassment. A man saying nice tits is not appropriate for the workplace, but a man saying nice tits on the street is not harassment unless he walks up to and makes a lot of those types of comments or he starts touching. It is not going to get him any dates but I take it as a compliment from someone who doesn't know how to talk to girls and less of an attack on me. A man saying nice ass or nice body is not by default harassment. It is not polite to say that but it is just like when we think to a guy nice ass or nice abs or nice chest, the same thing so why is one harassment but not the other? If one is, both are, but if both are then everyone is sexually harassing every hot person they see every day and that gets quickly out of hand and absurd. But touching, exposing, and even some of the more lewd comments if they just keep coming, and some comments even if they are told just once is harassment. We need to teach the difference to people so they do not just have a bad day and do cry harassment. If you have consensual sex with someone and later regret it, that is not rape, the person is not a bad person because it was consensual at the time, consent cannot be retroactively retracted. I am so sorry that happened to you and your sister and family. That is why we need to investigate these claims but maintain innocent until proven guilty. If there is no proof then there should be no legal consequences. Of course if it happens and there is no proof you should distance yourself and not be around them, but it is better than the logical conclusion of just accepting peoples words in criminal cases without proof where everyone who wants something accuses another of stealing and they can just take their stuff, or they get into an argument and accuse the other person of a crime that never happened and the police put the other one in prison. I would rather we have a burden of proof before punishment and we do not just accept someones word as truth because they are female.

[@ScorpioMaxwell]

The Zoella thing is obviously a scam but companies do this stuff all the time. They clear out inventory and backstock adding it to special bundled items in order to turn a profit rather than take a loss on unsold items. This way they can trick the consumer into thinking they're getting something special when in reality they're getting one over priced exclusive item and a butt load of filler items no-one want to buy separately. Personally I think when your filler items include things like stickers and glitter, items valued for less than a dollar at party city, you have officialy become a con artist.

[@holly169]

Especially with that meet up scam she was involved in I think it was called hello world makes her look worse

[@johns9940]

How is anyone supposed to find a significant other if flirtatious comments and hugging is sexual assault?

[@SALEENS7GTR5]

Osama Bin Fappin i guess it's harassment unless you are attractive

[@intj1434]

No no it's easy, you have to be attractive :) apparently that's how it is nowadays. I feel sad as a fellow woman. The IGN story is part of the reason why we can't tell which sexual harassment allegations can be trusted and not. Kallie "accepted" Vincent's apology and thanked him for being considerate. I'm sorry if I'm being harsh but I've been taught that it's called being a snake.

[@imaginaryfanboy]

The Zoella debacle is exactly why I look at unboxings and videos on KZbin before I buy anything so I know *exactly* what I'm getting. lol

[@nickbakernzl]

ɪᴍᴀɢɪɴᴀʀʏꜰᴀɴʙoʏ so true,before I buy anything I watch at least a couple videos to confirm that it's worth getting

[@LoriCrabtree31]

The diabetes comment made my day! :)

[@spiff2268]

Good plan.

[@jamesoren7238]

Just as a side note, man the way youtube has changed my life - I totally do the same. Like even buying a new phone this year. I know it's basically going to be the same as every other smartphone I've bought in the last 6 years, but still sooner check it out on YT than get harassed by an 18 year old on commission checking it out in a phone store. Similarly I don't think I've had to buy a technical book or pay for a handyman/repair for anything other than a car service in about 5 years lol. Thank you rando's of youtube!

[@whitneywillie4471]

Me too. These advent calendars remind me of all these videos of eBay mystery boxes lol. But all of her items look like dollar store/target dollar store cheapy items.

[@EvostarSC]

I love your videos Phil I wish they had close caption so I can watch a work when I have nothing to do. Keep up the good work!

[@slamblamboozled1245]

This is turning into a witch hunt, even Joe McCarthy would be uncomfortable with how far this is going. The guy misunderstood their relationship, that's not sexual harassment, not even close. People calling petty bullshit sexual harassment completely trivialises the concept and it makes things much harder for the people who are actually harassed to be taken seriously.

[@alexanderje8336]

Sam Lemke Agreed, AT LEAST keep that option open and do investigation, and keep an open mind until then. Communication between men and women is complicated for many and misunderstandings arise easily. This should be taken into account. I also think the response from the accused showed a lot of empathy for the girl, he seemed very understanding and distraught. That can be an act, but again, let's have an open mind instead of a witch hunt. (I'm also blaming the girl for anything at all, her feelings may have been very much justified. I'm just saying that we should be open to the idea that this wasn't the intent behind the actions of that man. It could even be that he was attracted to her, misinterpreted her signals and acted in a clumsy way. I think training for men, women and management on how to deal with this kind of situation would be smart.)

[@alexanderje8336]

And the manager and that "damage control" reply shouldn't get time on this show, it's the same BS as always which simply relieves them from responsibility from a lawyer perspective. Just link to the reply, they're empty words. I get why it's covered but my suggestion is to ignore it or keep it brief. Let's focus on the actual problem.

[@Cherrycolabaybee]

it's about the fact it happened at work, not the fact that it was inappropriate in general... the work place is not a dating site and he was making things awkward for a coworker.

[@kellyness6]

It seems that the female ign employee over exaggerated the situation. She may have felt uncomfortable with what her fellow coworker said which is not okay but the guy apologized for it as soon as he found out he may have been in the wrong. She made it out like she was sexually assaulted and no one cared about what may have happened to her. I find females that lie or over exaggerate about things of a sexual or flirty nature happen to them are absolutely horrible people. You make it even harder for the people who actually go through severe cases to want to come forward or believed by others... certain females love to abuse the privilege they have as being a woman yet in the same breath claim they don't have the same rights as men.

[@podtherod9304]

Agreed, mate.

[@isaibaez50]

What? That doesn't seem like sexual harassment, that sounds like a young girl having anxiety and reacting defensively. Bad communication and such.

[@liquidminds]

I don't get it either...

[@vitalstatistixthegaul770]

Im sorry if this is controversial, but I don't think what happened with that woman was sexual harassment. Yeah, some guy who is kind of close to you (because you made the conscious decision to tell him personal stories), makes a few jokes about how you are ATTRACTIVE, and how HE IS ATTRACTED TO YOU, that made you uncomfortable, so you told him to stop, he apologized, and stopped. Ok, that should be the end of the story, and a perfectly reasonable thing to do, THEN YOU COME OUT A WEEK LATER WITH HARASSMENT ALLEGATIONS?! How is that fair?

[@meldiacalcod1602]

Rishi Arun the problem lies with HR, regardless of whether or not he actually harassed her she obviously felt uncomfortable and did the right thing by taking it up with HR, all they have to do is look into it and resolve it or what most do is just sperate them and have them no longer work together because usually when someone you work with or work under makes you uncomfortable you feel embarrassed and don't want to speak to them because it's awkward and you feel bad even, sometimes they can make you feel ashamed which is why HR is there. to help employees be comfortable and happy, healthy etc.

[@Nelcomarproductions]

Rishi Arun women are emotional creatures, so to them everything that does not make them feel good is sexsual harrasment, Rape, etc.

[@Nelcomarproductions]

Rishi Arun for that reason ia why islamic laws state that a womans testimony ia only worth half of a mans.

[@Nelcomarproductions]

Rishi Arun best part is this will affect women in the long run. Men will not talk with them or ask them out. Hell women are now more likely to not receive CPR. Emotional thinking never gets you any where.

[@shiroyasha7324]

Rishi Arun yup

[@andrewcorbett4478]

EA also removed the ability to receive refunds for pre-orders oddly at the same time this happened.

[@utsux3]

As a survivor of sexual abuse, I am also sick of public accusations. I understand that the sense of solidarity can provide someone with the strength to face their own situation, but it is teaching people to handle it in a way that can cause more harm than good. I was 12-14 during my abuse. I had a mother who took charge and handled things through the legal system. I had to sit in front of a judge and jury and explain in painful detail the things that were done to me, that I was groomed to do. I was in therapy and support groups to help me understand what happened and guide me on a path of healing. I was instilled with strength I didn't know I was capable of because of my mother and all of the people who had dedicated their lives to helping people just like me. I used to dream about writing an autobiography, because life handed me dozens of lemons but no sugar to make the lemonade sweet. Blow after blow, trauma after trauma, for a decade of my life - I was somehow still going, still smiling, still strong... and I thought my story might help people. And hey, if it sold, maybe I wouldn't have to worry about money anymore. But how could I possibly do that to his daughters? His little girls, who had never done anything wrong in their short lives. They didn't need to grow up with the world looking at them as daughters of a pedophile. His parents didn't deserve that shame. His wife. My mother. My brother. The people who shared our names. The collateral damage was shared amongst too many people as it was, and the man responsible was sentenced and jailed and no longer a risk to the public. He will always be on the registry for his offenses, he will never be allowed to go unnoticed thanks to the systems in place. The rest of us deserve to live our lives in peace without leaving that kind of public mark because we are MORE than what that man chose to do.

[@striekr13577]

👏🏾

[@JakeBowenTV]

An aspect of all these sexual assault stories that no one is talking about is how the new platform for announcing them has become social media. I'm not sure how to feel about this. One the one hand, it obviously gets the word out quickly and forces the issue to be dealt with in a way that a quiet police report rarely does. On the other, it makes the accusation - and the accompanying stigma around the accused - immediately public. So while I'm happy that so many victims are seeing some action being taken, I'm concerned about how much this feels like we're creeping toward Salem-style public accusations that create a de-facto guilty-until-proven-innocent atmosphere.

[@samscholz5024]

Jake Bowen the solution is to go to the police or sue them. Done simple then after that has proven the person guilty then you can go to social media.

[@vxrdaunt]

EXACTLY. That's why, as bad as this sounds, we have to assume these women are lying from the get-go. Because any ex-girlfriend who carries a grudge can do a lot of damage by simply making the allegation. If we assume she's lying, then that doesn't happen. If she's not lying, great, dude gets punished and we're all good. If she is, also great, she gets tried for defamation. Problem solved.

[@xxspicygurlxx]

I agree, when something becomes a trend there is the possibility of people making false accusations for attention as we have seen in the past for false hate crimes. It is sad but true. For the first story, I am kinda leery of the sexual harassment, especially since there was a lot of personal text between the two people. Male and female friends can sometimes make sexual jokes between one another and sometimes one person can take it too far that makes the other person uncomfortable without knowing. I'm not saying he's not guilty but I can see a possible misunderstanding in this situation that made the company say it was both parties fault for not staying professional at work.

[@JakeBowenTV]

Fair points, but I think this trend is a result of how ineffective the standard route often is. Look at all the women who watched Bill Cosby go untouched for decades. In principal, I think this social media accusation trend is wrong, but I still recognize the reality that the alternative is often fruitless for victims. And all that said, this IGN one sounds fishy. I don't doubt she felt the way she felt, but his behavior doesn't sound beyond the pale to me, either. Man, this stuff is rough to sort out.

[@person2.022]

I completely agree with you there, but I’ve noticed that in a lot of these cases the victims actually did go to authorities, be it HR or the police, before making it public. When going to authorities didn’t work, they sort of gave up on getting justice until now, when social media has given them a safer/more effective way to get their voices heard. Doesn’t change the public crucifixion of alleged attackers without trial, though. Since it takes so long before these cases actually come to court and go on trial, the public has gotten used to deciding on their own, which is potentially dangerous. And social media makes it easier than ever to spread and find information related to the case, making people feel that they’re opinion is justified even if they are working with limited information/evidence.

[@GreenOnionBrother]

Why does that event calendar only have 12 boxes? You don't even get a complete Advent calendar. WTF?

[@AndrewN553]

I like Phil don't get me wrong but he is always VERY politically correct... She never said he inappropriately touched her or even said anything that was undoubtedly a sexual advance. If what he supposedly did is enough to be called sexual harassment then we are in trouble moving forward. Her statement "this was a man who preyed on me" just doesn't seem to be grounded in reality. Seems to me like he thought they were closer than they really were; likely due to her "sharing very personal information, looking for advice". I don't know it all just seems a little shady with what we know right now. He seems forthcoming with his information and it comes off as genuine (in my opinion). I think this is a case of "older guy who has made sexual comments (not advances) and because I am not attracted to him it makes me uncomfortable" We don't know the context in which his comments were made under so it is very difficult to say whether he is in the wrong. It's either this: 1. He is a creep, HR completely failed her and he is a really convincing liar OR 2. She is a drama queen and has over analysed his behaviour

[@zhawkmoth3653]

No. The real issue, that EVERYONE is missing, is that HR is to blame for ALL of this... Vince would still have a job, and she would have been fine and felt comfortable if HR had done their job right. That man lost his job so the company could save face. He was collateral. If HR listened to the girl's complaints (not blamed her for instigating advances with her clothes and SHAMED her), then simply made sure the two were properly separated, none of this would have happened. He simply seemed like a silly guy that didn't get the message. That's fine. He just needed to be told by the higher ups to stop and not to go near her. This didn't happen, or at least, did not happen the way it should have... This is the companies fault. They were fools and THEY cost that man his job.

[@AndrewN553]

I don't think we can be so definitive about our conclusions just yet.... I wouldn't disagree with what you said, only problem being that it assumes everything we know thus far is accurate. I personally just have a hard time believing HR "insinuated" that she is provoking him with her chest... I mean seriously.....even her wording around this part becomes less definitive using words like "basically" and "insinuated". This to me shows that it might be a matter of interpretation. If she has a victim complex she might interpret everything as an "attack" on her, this is becoming more and more common nowadays. My main point is this. Let's not jump to conclusions so quickly based off limited information ESPECIALLY when it just doesn't add up. But Phil is always quick to side with the politically correct even when (like this story) the information we are given is limited and inconclusive.

[@zhawkmoth3653]

I don't like to assume guilt in this situation. It's possible that she exaggerated, but if people start concluding that(which many are) and they are wrong, you are looking at literally blaming a victim which is a truly terrible thing to do... Also, if nothing actually happened at all, and she really was entirely at fault, Vince would not have admitted to it (which he did, albeit he stated that he assumed she was okay with it). Mere verbal harassment w/o anything physical should have been something handled properly by the company. I do firmly believe that many companies do have issues ignoring and helping their employees in these kinds of situations. This includes harassment targeted at either gender. This story is very sad, but I am hoping they get BETTER people at the company that are trained to deal with this sort of thing. I personally don't feel it really right to be terribly harsh on either the girl or Vince. Yes, PC bullshit is getting out of hand nowadays, but we can't assume all victims exaggerate because of it. I hope (if he was just a silly, oblivious guy) that he can get proper work again in the future. It'e a terrible shame. :/ I am getting very tired of seeing all of this bad news. Sorry for *TL;DR*

[@AndrewN553]

Vince never admitted to nothing....he simply said maybe she was uncomfortable with their perceived closeness. He was essentially saying "tell me what I have done" to which she wouldn't give him an answer. You said you don't like to assume guilt but you already blamed HR only based off what we know....which is very limited. In one of Vince's tweets he said something like "she shared very personal things with me".... why would she be so close with someone she says preys on her? Why does she use such indecisive language? If this was without a doubt a case of sexual harassment how did HR let it slide? It is these types of questions that raise issues with the whole situation. But still we have Phil saying he (Vince) must do more to prove his innocence....what happened to innocent until proven guilty? I just can't imagine a HR meeting going something like: Her: "he is sexually harassing me...." HR: "but you do provoke him with your chest... so here, sign this (or you lose your job) and from now on don't provoke him" She is saying it went down similar to this... I mean if that is even close to the case then HR is 100% at fault. There is no way it went down like that. Surely. My rational brain just can't comprehend HR being so blatantly unprofessional. There has to be more to the story.

[@zhawkmoth3653]

Sorry, but saying "rational brain can't comprehend" is ridiculous. In fact, it simply tells me that you may need a bit of a reality check when it comes to big companies and their behaviour towards their employees. I can absolutely believe the behavior of those working at HR trying to take both sides but in that attempt, accuse the girl of being too friendly/her attire and making her sign an agreement along with the man. I never claimed they blatantly said "your shirt is bad", but that sort of thing can be worded differently. It seems that you have blatantly chosen to side with the man in this situation. It seems you are the one determined to take sides here. I believe he made silly comments, but should not have been fired and blasted for it at all. Me taking issues with HR isn't a witch hunt against an individual, its criticism of their company and hopefully they will do better in the future.

[@Juggurosh]

In my experience, the internal IGN response is fairly typical. In a previous job at a very large corporation, I was friends with all of my co-workers. I'm a male, and one of my female co-workers would ask me about other women in the office regularly. "Isn't she pretty?" and "Wow, that skirt looks great on her, right?" were typical questions she had for me. But even in that situation, I understood that there was probably a double standard, and I only agreed with her, providing no further opinions. After several months, my boss called me into his office, saying that someone wants to file a sexual harassment claim against me. After describing a few conversations that I had with the female co-worker, I knew who it was and told my boss that she had initiated every conversation. He said that she was "convinced" not to file harassment by her female boss, and I was told very clearly to NOT discuss the situation with her or her boss. Afterwards, I was told to avoid her whenever possible, and was forced to attend a sexual harassment course. According to my boss, she was not required to attend the course because she said she would go to HR if she had to do that. Within the week, everybody heard that I had sexually harassed her, even though I hadn't done so, officially or unofficially. On the one hand, it's good that charges weren't filed against me. On the other hand, it's disturbing that everyone just wanted the whole thing to quietly go away...except for my punishment.

[@abdullahalmosalami2801]

Juggurosh That is absolutely outrageous.

[@WhooFlungPoo]

Juggurosh you monster

[@LordVader1094]

+Juggurosh That's just sad, and far too typical of the modern day. People will judge someone guilty based on accusations rather than proof.

[@MilaKanev]

Zoella and EA are equal... Equally bad

[@RezaAfsar]

Mila Kanev nice to see you mom

[@MilaKanev]

Nice to see you too Reza ^_^

[@Derethl2]

My seventh sense is detecting a PDP fan

[@Victoriascarn]

PHILIP DE FRANCO PLEASE ADD CAPTIONS

[@Ianna80]

My BF & I play Borderlands 2- The Handsome collection. It came out after the initial Borderlands 2. The Handsome collection comes w/ ALL the DLC’s that came after the original Borderlands 2 came out by itself...... It was about 70$ with the 2nd game w/ ALL the DLC’s included...... also included ALL 3 lvls of difficultly: Normal, True Vault Hunter mode & Ultimate Vault Hunter mode (UVHM). We tried about 5 times to play UVHM with our normal gear but couldn’t. We discovered we could really play with the “legendary” guns/gear witch is the (mostly) best gear in the entire game....... we NEVER had to pay for ANY of them..... we had to farm for them..... witch is worth doing & something to work for, with the “pride & accomplishment” with NEVER HAVING TO SPEND REAL MONEY!!!! Maybe try that EA games??? You can make $$ WITHOUT pissing your entire audience off!!!

[@Spartan_Mello]

As a professional, and a dude, I am beyond scared of being named in some harassment claim and not having the benefit of innocence before proven guilty. I'm afraid that someone who doesn't like me could make a claim against me to get me fired or to just punish me, and future HR departments would want to act so quick that I would not have a chance to defend myself before getting sacked. Am I being unreasonable with this fear?

[@RogueFox2185]

With so many accusations coming out lately it would be wrong to not be a bit cautious these days.

[@Intangible_Jack]

No dude, you're right for feeling that way unfortunately

[@andrewswitzer6334]

Working in a school this is my second biggest concern (even a false accusation could end my career for life and I'm still young). My biggest being dealing with the everyday crap my students have to go through because of where they live. That said, I don't let my concern for such things interfere with giving my kids the best education I can. So if a kid needs to stay after for extra help, they'll get it. I'm just careful.

[@Bill-zp2mt]

One lesson you should learn, never work with women. That's just my personal belief.

[@huey6248]

Why would anyone accuse you of anything ? What have you done ?

[@alfredr3476]

Zoella should of just said it was a loot box instead of a calendar and people would've bought five.

[@McKinleyGriggs]

Great stuff as per the ushe Thanks, Phil you fill my heart with wonder.

[@XanosKnyghtshade]

In the advent calendar, you get stickers to put on presents so people won't look in them. The 12 Days of Christmas....starts after Christmas.

[@4xdblack]

On the topic of the IGN story.. I feel like Vincent is the victim here... Somehow during all this, the lines between dirty jokes and sexual assault got blurred. The dude told a few dirty jokes.. Was it inappropriate? Probably... Is it worth this much backlash? Fuck no.

[@jordylyons4648]

£50 is it personally delivered🤔

[@Syndixal]

Jordy 54 😂😂😂😂😂

[@hunterzolomon5090]

Still wouldn't be worth it

[@koreankid116]

&:

[@FernDaily]

in a world where people don't read a full newspaper on the daily or watch the morning news, your show has done a great thing by giving information in a consumable and enjoyable way. Keep on doing what your doing :)

[@hayleyduff]

i spend so much time looking at the background couch & all the things on the wall lol

[@DevinEDB]

Why is the bar for sexual harassment becoming lower and lower each day?

[@BiggusThiccus]

Because if everything is worthy of outrage, nothing is, and hence leftists can keep their rhetoric without looking like hypocrites

[@frederickray129]

Thinkofsomething You treat women like children. Seems a little sexist.

[@lordzaboem]

...because in the 21st Century, we base more and more standards on feelings. I'm not even talking about sexual harassment anymore so much as everything. A court ruled this year in the U.S. that police may use deadly force based upon nothing more than whether or not the cop feels scared for his life. Criminals are prosecuted and convicted differently not based on simply what they did but largely upon how they felt while doing it, thus the existence of hate crime law. It's all about the feels which will always be arbitrary and inconsistent.

[@AbelR91]

That’s sexual harassment, you said “lower” made me feel uncomfortable

[@125loopy]

Thinkofsomething "aggressors"?? This guy doesn't deserve all of this backlash

[@LeeAnnStar]

I miss the days of cheat codes and game genies.

[@huey6248]

R those real

[@trippingkanga134]

The simpler time now we have to pay for things for extra stuff if you want to do good

[@SensuixShinobu7]

I miss getting the full game when you pay full price rather then a full game being split up in season passes. it sucks because I really wanna play this game but I really REALLY hate microtransactions.

[@LeeAnnStar]

SSJ BLAIRE WHITE Sama yeah it's all bullshit like wtf I'll just play snes

[@SensuixShinobu7]

This is why Nintendo is king. No season passes or microtransactions to fight bowser. Too bad they don't give us online party systems.

[@nadiajuarez4763]

"Can you put a price on happiness?!" I'm dead lol

[@scoobydookp]

What happened between the 2 IGN employees is actually ridiculous. How over dramatic can you get by saying his comments were 'manipulative and abusive comments'?!?! Vince said they discussed personal matters, perhaps she told Vince something that her boyfriend had done or said and Vince in response saying that he was a boy (or acting like a boy or in other words in a childish way and not like a grown adult - a man) because the way her boyfriend was treating her was not a way a man should treat his women. And the comment regarding the 'uncomfortable compliments' that he gave her, GOSH!!! If this is what sexual harassment is then I have been sexually harassed more times then I can remember.

[@KreativeHogwartsLegacyGUIDES]

thats what im thinking. i tell girls theyre cute. now im really scared. fine theyre ugly. dafuq am i supposed to say?

[@16m49x3]

That woman at IGN has not provided any evidence. The man Has provided evidence. The man seems sincere in his description. If anything he is insecure and has trouble reading people If anything that woman is manipulative, and it backfired on her when he misinterpreted her confusing signals. If anything the woman is unable to be candid. Like hell as if she deserves an apology. That man deserves an apology, from her.

[@thelasab.9368]

I mean considering that a lot of Zoella’s viewers are children who won’t look up what’s inside the advent calendar, before asking their parents to get it for them, it really does feel like a scam. I also feel that you should somewhat care about the pricing and quality of the products that carry your name on them, even if you have nothing to do with the process.

[@Mazzmaker69]

I don't think you can call it a scam. Seriously, you're buying something that you have no earthly idea whats inside of it. How can you get scammed when you are buying an item that is designed to have a bunch of mystery content? Now you might call it a dick move, but honestly I'd say that maybe these people should have tried asking the people selling the calender about what it contains before forking over fifty bucks. Seriously, this is pretty much the same thing as me going : "Hey, I have this sack here with something in it, it's yours for a fifty". Am I the idiot for selling it, or you for buying it?

[@simply_geri]

I agree, she even said sometime ago that she wouldn't put her name in a product that she doesn't genuinely love, but here is an example that where that failed. She should go back on what she said i hope she addresses this soon... I really believe zoella is a good lady & good businesswoman.

[@SolNacht]

Loved watching Train to Busan, thanks for the recommendation

[@Isabelle-gg9dg]

I love that you speak as fast as I read and I can still understand you.. nice!

[@orionizaqt]

In regards to the IGN story, I really think we should know what the "harassment" was. I think it's unfair to the man being accused that we don't know what he's even being accused of. Beyond that, his response to it seemed very thoughtful and sincere. I don't think he intended in any way to harass anyone. My dad was accused by a co-worker of sexual harassment after being friends for months. He never did anything to her for her to accuse him of that. One day she just told him that she didn't want to hangout with him anymore and he told her it was fine. They stopped being friends and months later she's accusing him of harassment for no apparent reason. Call me a skeptic, but I just don't know.

[@expressrobkill]

innocent until proven guilty, not vindicating but just not aggressively victimising him for somthing from what it sounds is a complete over exaggeration, i mean at this point verbal harassment is sexual harassment and sexual harassment is rape and rape is worse than murder, the issue is that rape really shouldn't be worse than murder, definitely up there but you have to account for murder being final and rape is word of mouth, i.e anyone can say it so lets not start the guilty until proven innocent trend only for that.

[@alexzander2211]

this is what happens, when radical and extremistic third and fourth wave left wing feminism take over. i feel sorry for America (and sweden) that their own country have a cesspool worse than death bombers, they dont take serious. together with the leftist bias mainstream media they have slowly taken over the (normal peoples) media outlets. phil is making news on this cancerous and he dont even know it is bad (prolly because he is a leftist) before people point it out with critical thinking. leftist hollywood currently have a meltdown and are pointing fingers at men, so a feminist frequency leaded female leftwing feministic movement can take over and lead the world into misinformation. i feel sorry for left wing and right winged Americans who have to suffer through this. they did not deserve this, no one wanted to listen to the *crazy* people who warned them. its too late. enjoy your suffering.

[@bentwookie348]

+alexzander2211 - Wait, there's now a 4th wave of feminism? Ah shit, the world still hasn't healed from that 3rd wave bullshit. Can't we wait like a decade or two before the cancer returns?

[@AttitudePark]

Two of Zoellas past tweets she states that she is proud of her product AND is involved in everything because she is too much of a control freak to allow third parties to do the work for her. If that's the case, then either she is A) to blame and is trying to get your money for nothing or B) a liar. Also, if she is proud and invested personally then why has she stayed silent about the whole thing?

[@flybriur]

But Zoella should have only done the deal if she would know what the price will be, and if she doesn't agree with the pricing, than the deal doesn't happen. If you sell over your name/brand for a promotion, and you aren't aware of every aspect of that promotion, there is a good amount of blame that you deserve. Claiming ignorance is not an excuse.

[@anyabarnett9342]

Unfortunately we don't know how much information Zoella had at the time or her intentions behind the calendar and why she waited so long to speak out which us why this story is blowing up as much as it is. The only things we have to base our views on are the opinions, facts and judgements made by consumers, retailers, management and Zoella which will nearly always conclude in a bias result.

[@anyabarnett9342]

mimimi I understand completely where you are coming from I just think that for something that she is incredibly proud of why would she not have access to the information to the pricing? Even if she didn't the consumers were quick to pass negative judgement on that aspect and I just find it hard to believe that she didn't know about it until now making it hard for me to believe that she is as upset about the product as she claims. Obviously I could be completely wrong but like I said it's frustrating cause we will most likely never know the true story.

[@bibisingt7268]

Half of KZbin is about marketing. Now let's get over it and sing along to my song parody "How it REALLY is" (on my channel) ;-) I am sure you will love it

[@ANoteToSelf]

Looollll just like how she was “involved” in writing her books?? (She has a ghost writer if you didn’t know).

[@mutantxdoll]

I loved the tone of voice he used for the zoella calendar description

[@h_m_johnsen]

Too Funny to Fail had me nostalgic for a TV show I wasn't even alive for.

[@SaintBison209]

So he says he was told to keep correspondence work related. She says he walked near her desk and ask her work related questions... Just seeing what she says he said is like IDC. I have agreed with every single sexual harassment allegation that has come up in the last year but this feels weak. Its like wtf can you say anymore that doesnt result in a I was harassed case. I watch the Philly D behind the scenes stuff thinking oop. That was a semi sexual joke there better watch out guys. I'm over this one already

[@dark3rthanshadows]

yeah sourcefeed staff was ALL about jokes like that we would have the whole female cast claming sexual harrasment

[@mbe1432]

+VizZzion I agree and it looks more like someone trying to get attention. She just got mentioned to more than 200,000 ppl and yesterday probably didnt know her name. Especially considering we're talking about IGN that has been dying for a while now

[@cassandra1234ization]

Makes you question your decision to believe all the last stories.

[@ZandXProductions]

Stories like this IGN one are how you get the public to stop taking the term 'sexual harassment' seriously.

[@cfcfcfcf]

Matterking Agreed. She's acting like a child, and the way she reacted to his 'harrasing' statements is infantile. If she doesn't know how to deal with people maybe she should just stay at home where it's safe and sound.

[@TheSolaceOfSilence]

It is harassment, not sexual abuse, but it still exists and it is a problem. We need to make a clear distinction between "abuse" and "harassment". You can still be harassed verbally. If you were sworn at or yelled at by a coworker, that's harassment. Sexual harassment is exactly that, being verbally harassed to a point of discomfort, in a sexual manner. This story shouldn't have been made public, it's definitely something that should've been dealt with internally at IGN. But we should be careful about "not taking sexual harassment seriously".

[@DangerofDeath]

I looked in a pound shop and found everything in the advent calander (The majority of the stuff was bigger) for 12 pounds and it would be cheaper outside of a pound shop.

[@Venatis]

I seriously know how you feel about bad traffic and audible. I used to *HATE* traffic but with audible, I actually LOVE to drive because I get to listen to my audio book. I even take longer routes sometimes just to be able to listen to my audio book more!

[@HappySqrl]

I could be wrong but the IGN story sounds more like a middle aged man not understanding how his relationship will be seen by a young woman, a young woman who was too immature to enforce boundaries on her relationships, and hysteria over harassment leading to this being a news story.

[@JYLEDH]

Well when someone in power makes a move, its harder to say no. He was an editor and more established than her I think. It shouldn't be up to girls to have to deal with dense guys. That is kinda like saying when will ladies learn to not walk alone at night because guys are rapists. How about guys just work at work and take the more cautious approach when flirting with girls.

[@HappySqrl]

david yang, Expecting people to read your mind in order to keep you comfortable is never a good strategy; and not defining clear boundaries is an excellent way to find yourself in a conflict caused by a misunderstanding. Setting a boundary isn't that difficult, and it doesn't require you to be at an equal power level. Simply saying something like "I'm uncomfortable having this conversation at work" will work for the vast majority of people out there; and if people don't respect that then I think it constitutes harassment.

[@louierhmann7681]

I feel like if she is the person speaking out about it. Then she should release all the messages and encounters with the accused. It just doesn't seem fair that the accused has to back his own back and as showed by Phil that he clearly didn't want bad stuff to happen. To me it seems like she is just trying to create drama for the sake of it because she hasn't really backed her statements up with texts messages which could clearly rule out if it was both parties fault or just a one sided thing

[@thepiffy1]

I love intelligent conversation and information. You deliver Sir. Thank you.

[@MC1250]

The biggest thing I see wrong with the Zoella thing was all the gifts were cheap crap from the dollar store.

[@Lex-jj7hb]

"I'd rate our company a 10 out of 10" -IGN

[@timmyq6324]

Alexis Ford I'd rate us 7.8 too much water

[@coolcool5181]

7/10 too much water

[@hellodownthere3763]

nah a perfect 5 out of 7

[@jorgeroman3307]

From all the evidence presented this isn't sexual harassment, it's pure miscommunication. If you're friends with someone you want to make them feel good about themselves and that's what he tried to do. Now if they didn't know each other at all and never spoke and that was their only interaction then yes that would be fucking weird. But he has proof they spoke on a deeper level than coworkers and her inability to voice how uncomfortable she was until the week before she reported him just shows she's shit at communication. If being called "not fat and perfect the way you are" is sexual harassment then we should just stop having girls and boys work together. I wonder if a man would ever report that as harrasment...

[@jacobbuchanan6076]

Jorge Roman if they did they would be laughed at and be reprimanded for wasting company time

[@jorgeroman3307]

Rudie McRudeface Well first of all, yes I call my grandmother (my parent) Beautiful all the time because she is. My relationship with her doesn't allow for me to talk about my sex life without it being a little weird, but I totally know people whose parents are like their best friends and they talk WAY WORSE than this. It's all about the relationship and he misunderstood theirs and ADMITTED that.

[@Cron0s91]

Dude, he got a complain about this same shit a year ago, so HE KNEW. Even the boss called her a "stucked up woman", literally.

[@vr6535]

I was just at World Market and some advent calendars retail for $29-$49. And they're just filed with chocolate. The $49 doesn't have anything in it, it's just a wooden house.

[@richelleguilbault9229]

How do you pick your Secret Links?

[@PhilipZeplinDK]

I'll be honest, I find it horrifying how fast people are to demand justice with no evidence these days. It's like they assume that no one lies about anything. Innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around. If anything bad happened, then that person needs to pay for that - but only on the condition we can actually be sure something bad DID happen.

[@dominantpersona3326]

Philip Zeplin Only men lie according to the book of third wave feminism

[@KudaroKoi]

I remember your Japan videos years ago, good to see you're still active!

[@abigailfowler1843]

Elad As well as basic human societies. Would you want your life ruined because some jealous or overly zealous person sought out to destroy everything you are via accusations?

[@LordVader1094]

+Elad It also applies to basic human societies with even a shred of decency, numbnuts.

[@Cron0s91]

So, what about the other way around ? Your claims should be listened and analized no matter what, not always the evidence is concrete and each case need some level of research including the context, witnesess, etc. In this case even her boss aknoleged the harrassment claim but justified it saying that she "seduced him". The evidence is right there, even IGN stated that it was poorly managed. So idk how you can find THAT horrifying and not the ridiculus amount of harrasment cases that went under the radar all this time.

[@Syrus7sk]

"Guys don't like skinny girls. You're perfect" is sexual harassment? Sounds like something you tell an insecure girl who thinks she's too fat.

[@alanarose1201]

The advent calendar is close to $90 here is Australia.

[@JojoButler2012xx]

Man who tf spends £50 on a calendar. That's most of my Xmas shopping budge for the year

[@bonnybruzos5343]

Even if Zoella didn't directly price the items, it still seems a bit odd that she would describe her incredibly cheap product as having, "...12 amazing and exclusive treats..." This whole situation just seems a bit manipulative.

[@republicdecease]

Wouldn't suprise me if Zoella had barely anything or nothing to do with it, I mean it's merchandising and in most cases that is handled by the management. It does show though that buying someone's stuff for any other reason then to give them money is pretty stupid. It does seem kinda shady though that knowing the age of her audience, they are pretty much trying to extort money from the parents since they will get the backlash if they won't buy it.

[@ryliecronk1138]

How is any guy gunna find someone to date if even talking to someone is harassment....

[@MiguelMoreno-sg9bj]

Rylie Cronk give it a few more years. We’ll get them sex droids :)

[@ryliecronk1138]

Miguel Moreno haha

[@helenlesley5810]

What happened to innocent until proven guilty? There is false accusations you know, you cant just believe everyone's sexual harassment story.

[@channelofmojos2779]

Something I have seen mentioned here and there and can attest to myself with my own observations at a few companies is this: HR is there to protect the company, NOT the employees. While many companies do have non-retaliation policies that theoretically protect an individual who reports someone from that person, which typically is there so if an employee reports their supervisor their supervisor cannot fire them the next day. I say theoretically for two reasons, one such policies do not act as a "I can do anything now" shield. In other words if you report your supervisor for something, and they are still your supervisor after that if you do something that warrants disciplinary action it is that supervisors job to deal with that matter as they see fit within the bounds of their authority and company policy. While you could argue they were looking for you to screw up if you screw up you still screwed up. And as long as there is history of that supervisor dealing with similar infractions with other employees they are covered. The second reason I say theoretically is because non-retaliation is specifically on the reported on individual, if, such as seems to be the case with the IGN situation, the HR representative handling a case feels its is in the company's best interest to put everyone involved in a situation on notice, doing so is not retaliation but a "protective measure".

[@demontoarch]

Hell, it's not that were tired of hearing about the sexual harassment stories, it's just that these stories have little evidence to back them up and when the accused tries to defend them themself they are still slandered without any due process. Whether it happened or not, after that story gets out, the damage has been done to them.

[@sarahroach8527]

My policy is, question everything and support both sides. Basically be Switzerland. Let the courts do their thing and when its all said and done, condemn the asshole whoever it is. Demand evidence, but don't be a dick about it. Just "Do you have proof? You shouldn't go public or take it to court until you get evidence or else you'll ruin your own name and be put through so much worse". Because that's the truth. Women who go t9 court without proof are put through hell during the trail. They end up being questioned and their lives are the ones that are looked into. Don't pit yourself through that. And to the dude "get as much evidence as possible, understand what you're being accused of and remember your sixth amendment".

[@demon2441]

True, but in some cases where would the proof come from? Unless your recording video and audio 24/7, there's no way to know who's in the right especially if the perpetrator is smart enough to cover their bases. I have no doubt that people would take this movement as an opportunity to ruin people who oppose them on some level or even just to be a jerk.

[@seigeengine]

+Anurag What fantasyland do you live in? They don't bend over to these allegations,. They deny them. They also often pay people off so they shut up and don't make a fuss about it, because paying them off is, in their opinion, worth it. Same reason people settle out of court so often.

[@tiagomnlmnl]

Exactly.

[@demontoarch]

demon2441 yes, but, from what these seem like, they are not violent cases, I am sure that if there might be something fishy going on, you'll have time to whip out your phone and put a voice recorder on. Most phones come with one.

[@diogoalves4822]

average gamer spends 6h a week gaming? those are really, really rookie numbers

[@Azron945]

Maybe we are not average XD

[@aussieguy1012]

6 hours LOL.Thats a small session.

[@khensang1907]

Aussie Guy literally a day worth of Dota 2

[@Naruto31132]

I play if I'm not asleep, at work, or something hygienic like shitting and showering. Maybe one day a week will be spent outside.

[@cassandra1234ization]

Those numbers are the only way Phil can call him self an "average gamer".

[@jobriq5]

Reminds me of CAH's black Friday sale where they sold nothing for $5

[@mazparko]

Boots are one of the UK retailers known for having incredibly over priced gift sets at Christmas. The thing that isn't being mentioned is that most of these gift sets are included in 3 for 2, buy one get one free, buy two get two free etc promotions. Boots also used to have the tactic of dropping these items by percentages every week in the run up to Christmas, so some items would become 50% or more off the original price. It's really scummy of them to charge so much for this item, but it's definitely a tactic to try and get you to take advantage of the 3 for 2 offers to make you think you are getting a better deal by buying more of their tatt.

[@wheatleycore4838]

Why is everyone so afraid to make a statement that goes against what people think? As soon as one of there accusations of sexual harassment come out, it seems like it’s strictly off limits to question the validity of these claims. When you broke the story of this woman getting “sexually harassed” I was really skeptical as I was with the rest of these stories but, the way you presented the story made me feel like it was just some guy trying to get with a woman and the woman didn’t communicate with the guy who was hitting on her. Imo getting hit on should not be considered sexual harassment.

[@addangel]

Wheatley Core getting hit on *at work* by a *person in a position of power* when you did nothing to elicit or encourage those comments *can* and *is* sexual harassment

Wheatley Core asking for sex from a coworker is sexual harassment, especially when you outrank them (that comment about how when he was her age he could go all night)

[@isaiahcooper7429]

Bob Pickleson he wasn't asking for it from her. Making a statement about something like that isn't sexual harassment. He made no remark towards her. He did nothing wrong

Isaiah Cooper it depends how he said it tbh. One could be a friend joking around with a friend about sex lives. Another could be him suggestively saying let's fuck.

[@TessaBain]

Ada No, it's not. It can be if they threaten you for not complying or continue to do so after you respond in the negative but it is not by default harassment of any kind. You don't know what harassment is if you're classifying it as harassment by default in which case I would suggest a dictionary. A legal one in particular. And no, it shouldn't be classified as harassment either.

[@pokedude104]

Sounds to me like shes trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill here, like really, a couple mildly sexual comments towards you made you wrecked with anxiety for months? Come on now

[@nastybigJim]

pokedude104 I agree this is hurting real victims.

[@SamJG99]

I try not to watch your show too often, not because I disagree with your views, but because it causes a very stressful surrounding. I think you handled that situation VERY well and I thank you for this level of professionalism.

[@Fidasaind]

Also Advent calendars look like they can be cool. Master of Malt does them for drinks every year. And yest they are expensive but I keep hearing people say that the whiskey calendars are generally worth it. If only shipping to the States wasn't so expensive.

[@JRT.9]

The IGN story is so blown out of proportion from the information provided. The guilty until proven innocent thing really needs to come to an end because of stories like this.

[@roryos]

That moment when Obi Wan was able to beat Anakin because he purchased the high ground DLC.

[@Geoffreyvexer]

Obi Wam was a shill confirmed.

[@xato-1]

Is mayonnaise an instrument? This

[@OwlMoovement]

Heh, I'm sure you didn't mean it, but I enjoyed your choice of words at 14:00. "Massive Effect" in an EA story :D

[@Sizdothyx]

Phil, I can't seem to find the Ridiculously Expensive Mug on your store.

[@leifstoye]

The IGN story was a big scare for me . I work with a lot of younger girls and during lunch breaks they would talk about boyfriends and would occasionally ask my opinion about how men think or what they do . From now on I am going to eat outside , just in case . I would rather seem " stand offish " than have to deal with this shit .

[@ice_exia9789]

Not Convinced this is what shouldn’t happen right? You shouldn’t feel afraid to talk to your coworkers or being accused for these alleged sexual harassment claims

[@MM-zw8sm]

Better to avoid, times are bad now... as they Prevention is better

[@lRecon]

False claims will still get you fired =/

[@ravynramon]

I literally carry a pen cam in my shirt pocket for these situations, I do everything I can to not be alone with ANY female at work. But there are unavoidable situations, to which I click my pen and record the instance from start to finish, sound paranoid and excessive I know, but this shyt is rampant, especially in my field(law enforcement).

[@Nr2reaper]

@ravynramon good idea... but be careful so they dont go apeshit about recording them without their knowledge...

[@kayla33269]

As much as I want to believe the victim by principle, I have to say that Vince's response is fairly reasonable. It seems to me that the biggest issue in the sexual harassment story was a lack of communication from all sides. Vince says clearly he didn't believe Kallie was comfortable with the level of friendship he was. At the same time, Kallie may have been misreading the situation because there was a lack of communication between her and Vice, but to be fair, HR really seems to have just goofed it all in general. I don't know who to believe, but I sure as hell don't trust HR to tell the truth here.

[@dxnnxxmc]

Seth G exactly. Yet everyone in the comments think Vince is a saint and Kallie is the devil trying to ruin his career. IGN should've just handled this situation better and this wouldn't be that big of a deal

[@rawwhide]

What the fuck happened to no means no. Did she tell him no. WTF is level of friendship. Are you not allowed to hug or touch people nowadays. Can I carry around a hug bot? I hope I don't brush up against some womens at a job and then get fired for harassment.

[@sivert30]

So with the calendar story, what I want to do is make a comparison with the chocolate calendars I've seen in stores. Here in Norway, at any rate, the calenders per kilo price is about 500 kroner (NOK), that is about 60 US dollars. Normal chocolate (of the same type as the little calendar-chocolates) on the other hand costs anywhere from 150-250 kr per kilo. My point being that when you buy a calander, you really should know thet you're mostly buying overpriced stuff with fancy design. But I agree... pretty unexciting stuff in there.

[@igeorgoudi]

My thoughts on advent calendars, is that there is one type that you can never go wrong buying it and that is chocolate advent calendars

[@daviddavidson931]

Wow i cant believe how minor that "sexual abuse" was esspessically since they were friend's

[@meerule]

While Sexual harassment news are very disappointing to hear, it breaks my heart to hear story like with the Kallie where it seems that the guy was just flirtatious with the lady and she wasn't liking it, but could've been solved had she asked him to leave her alone. I cannot say for certain without Vincent releasing his full text-conversation but If we link the dots through out the situation its seems that - Vincent was being Flirty with the Lady, -He might have been trying to impress her or possibly wanted more from her -She took it as harassment but given that she and him text each other, she still didn't feel comfortable enough to tell him so complained his behaviour to HR -HR didn't find enough evidence to dirty Vincent (or might have schemed against the lady) -He then texted her asking what he had done to upset her so much. -Then She comes out publicly after all this. Now what I conclude from this timeline is that, this might be her trying to take advantage of all the harassment situation around the Hollywood and because she didn't like the person just one bit at that time, she was reminded of the "harassment" during. This is a situation where you hate the person so much you get annoyed or disgusted by slightest of their twitch. According to me If I were a beautiful young women like her, I would also not be into a men like Vincent, and when a person I don't like tries to get close to me I will start getting annoyed by everything he does and take offence. This is what fuelled everything I suppose. Its nothing more than this snowflake generation Enforcing Political correction and regarding every advance towards a women as harassment. These kind of cases more than often steal thunder from the actual harassment cases that require the attention of mass and the media. NOTHING SHOULD BE CONSIDERED HARASSMENT IF ONE WAS NOT FORCING THEMSELVES ON ANOTHER AND THIS CASE IT SEEMS THAT VINCENT BACKED OFF AS SOON AS HE GOT THE NOTICE FROM HR. GENDER PLAYS A HUGE ROLE IN SUCH SCENARIOS OBVIOUSLY. FOR EXAMPLE remember the Adam Sandler movie "thats my boy", now imagine if a Male teacher has had sex with a female student in that movie and she beared his child, would that movie still be considered comedy? Its similar situation here Because she's a girl, her words have to be taken seriously and none of the evidence would matter. Its like the custody of a child situation where mother is favoured during. Why? I am confused do people want Female Superiority or Gender Equality?

Mirul Khanal it's still sexual harassment when it's done in a workplace environment, but I agree if it hadn't been in the environment it was in

[@hellowe308]

Bob Pickleson I don't understand this sexual harassment work environment thing?

[@CapucineNighly]

As a lady myself, and a not half bad looking one, I totally agree with what you said. I feel like this didn't feel like a sexual harassment issue at all. Just bad flirting where the dood didn't get the signal. No offense to guys, if you don't tell it to them straight, they won't get it. And if he don't back off after that, then ya, sure that can be an issue. Otherwise it feels like a highschool drama where a pretty girl wanted to make an average Joe's life miserable after not taking a hint. I rather not jump on crucifying someone without getting both sides of the story first. While we got the lady's side and a good amount of the guy, I saw nothing that warrants a "law suit". I just want to know, when did it become a taboo to talk to another gender as friends? Did it get that bad in America already? When did using our gender as a weapon for a lawsuit became popular? I've already seen the Race card used waay too much. This just telling me the lady is not suited to work with other people, mostly the opposite sex.

[@moop4793]

Wow, my thoughts exactly

Hello We when you go to work, you go there to make money and if you love your job, do whatever that is. Not to pick up someone of the opposite sex. Especially when they are in a lower ranking position than you. _Maybe_ out of work. _Maybe._ But _never_ on the job.

[@loveisinportant5570]

A thing you didn't notice/mention is that the absurd cost of these things. Not only do you pay full price, but then they expect hundreds of dollars if you want even part of the full game experience.

[@hannahm4770]

I LOVE CHRIS AND JACK! SO GLAD YOU GAVE THEM A SHOUT OUT PHIL!

[@Christopholaes]

Someone was made to feel slightly uncomfortable, better guilt the rest of the company into line...

[@tony7986]

Hey Phillip I saw you on the Joe rogan podcast and decided to check out your channel and omg im glad I did. Love your stuff man keep it up!

[@FamiAoi]

Reading the situation and having her picture up, I absolutely could not focus on anything DeFranco said. *shrug*