HUMANKIND - The "Civ 6 Killer" | One Year Later... Is Humankind Better?

HUMANKIND is a 4X historical strategy game from Amplitude Studios that many consider an immediate rival, suitable comparison, or familiar experience to Civilization 6, Civ 5, and the countless other historical strategy games from within Sid Meier's Civilization, and beyond. In this Humankind video I'm reassessing Humankind - One Year Later. This is my video response to all who asked "how has humankind game changed?" "should I play civilization 6 or humankind?" and "has humankind changed much?". This video is aimed at people familiar with Humankind, and those new to the channel, possibly Civ 6 and/or humankind players considering civ 6 vs humankind (or looking for more information on Humankind and how it has evolved over the last year). Was Humankind the civ 6 killer? I'd say no. Unlikely it would ever remove Civ 6 from it's position - more it offers a unique and enjoyable take alongside. #civilization #humankind #gaming
CONTENTS:
0:00 - HUMANKIND - Has It Evolved? Intro
1:30 - New Content
4:05 - Game Conditions
7:00 - Balancing - Cultures, Units & Opponents
14:55 - War Support & Surrender
19:22 - Rapid Fire
22:00 - Humankind vs Civilization 6
26:00 - Conclusion & What's Next for Humankind?
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Title: HUMANKIND - The "Civ 6 Killer" | One Year Later... Has It Evolved?
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[@JumboPixel]

What d'ya reckon? Is Humankind better, one year later? And perhaps more importantly for next time... what should it do in its "year two" to better itself?

[@junecarter2455]

I like humankind better purely because I think it's more true to real humanity. Civ 6 sometimes feels more like an elaborate puzzle game - setting up exactly what you want to do and then releasing all the parts like in a game of mouse trap towards your decided goal. I kind of prefer the more fluid progression system that fame has to offer. They're both p different games imo

[@TBOooder]

If humankind could be played on integrated graphics, I would say it's better than Civ 6. I'm stuck playing Civ 6 because of this reason.

[@kipo8454]

Civ 5 & 6 hotseat ability makes them better than humankind no matter what tbh. Can't roleplay with friends on this terrible game

[@SuPaKidge]

Humankind 2 will be better than Civilization 6, Civilization 7 will be better than Humankind 2.

[@kipo8454]

@@SuPaKidge Perfect comment tbh

[@davidhole8175]

All fair comments. I love Humankind. What I really want to see is a real earth map with "true" start locations. This has been shown to be possible by the modder Gedemon but something official and frequently updated with DLC would be the icing on the cake.

[@IsaacBatistapns]

Just the dream

[@pintoffanta2510]

How would that work? You can't pick your culture at the start of the game. If one of the AI is placed in Europe but decided to play as an African culture for example, that would defy the point of true start locations

[@davidhole8175]

@@pintoffanta2510 there are 2 mods required by gedemon that handles this. The mod has zones and if you settle in that location with a city you can pick specific location correct cultures between era. In theory the AI does similar.

[@thatguy6789]

Play hoi4 with millennium dawn mod or play eu4 or Victoria 2 (3 is out soon 🎉)

[@mahari893]

My only gripe with the game (and Civ VI I guess) is the city sprawl. It’s kinda jarring seeing an entire continent filled with buildings, hence why i miss Civ V’s central city that progressively grows bigger with vast amounts of farmland and mines in the distance.

[@capycapy8920]

This is actually why I prefer Humankind. Its so cool to see a massive civilization just taking over the land

[@Deilwynna]

i think humankind is too different from the civ gameplay to be a civ killer, imo the territory system in humankind is the main reason i see it as a completely different kind of 4x game compared to civ5 and 6 but also the fact you can switch culture every time you go to a new era. humankind and civ does have a big overlapping playerbase but i dont see how humankind will kill civ, there are gameplay features i love in civ more than i do in humankind, like how cities in general work feels much better in civ5 and 6 but districts feels much better in humankind than in civ6

[@akkoismydaughter3573]

That's the One!!

[@akkoismydaughter3573]

It's because the population system weird the city system out sometimes, but you definitely hit the nail on the coffin, it does districts better, wars more fair, and and territories also feel better. But like you said, civ does feel like it does cities better, I think it's cuz humankind focuses more on territory, whereas civ focuses on specifically the city

[@RaVNeFLoK]

Districts in civ 6 are silly to me. I’ll give humankind a spin

[@Deilwynna]

@@RaVNeFLoK districts can be even sillier in humankind, specially in earlier version of the game where the bonuses stacked in a weird way making a single industrial district generating something like 150+ production, combining that with the fact that you can build nearly infinite amount of them in a single city, you get silly amount of production. and its not only industry districts, also farming districts and such are affected by similar bonuses

[@RaVNeFLoK]

@@Deilwynna I don’t understand why modern games have this mechanic. It’s not how ancient cities work at all. You don’t show an old European city and say: Look here’s the neighborhood where we keep all the schools and libraries - and 15 km from here is a suburb where we keep all our churches and temples in a big lump - for people that like going into 3 churches at once. Want to see our dedicated “cultural district” as well? It’s neat. 130 km out of the city and behind those mountains over there we keep all our theaters, circuses, concert halls and art museums in one big circle. Yes we are deranged like that. I get modern cities have dedicated industrial districts and perhaps shopping malls but that’s it dang it. ;)

[@Dirt1061]

Ooh no more turn limit? Man I have not played the game since release, but will need to with all of these changes. Thank you for making this video! Gets me excited to try the game again

[@StoNe-ji6bc]

Hey JP, bit of feedback. I love your enthusiasm and passion towards the game. I think a gap is your dialogue with the visuals, talking about sliders for abundance vs rare, is unclear unless you show the imagery of the settings panel, and examples out in the real world. The random imagery seems more of a distraction than a benefit. But please note, you are my first go to for Humankind progress and news

[@TheMandalore65]

I agree - @JP love your channel and follow, but this is the one thing I think could take you from great to amazing, though I know the level of effort would also increase to do this.

[@allenaztec8065]

Nice video. The turn limits killed it for me. I did not know they removed that. Guess I’ll have to get back in and check it out.

[@DustinNuttall]

You have a such a calming voice, like a meditation voice. This review was absolutely perfect, so many details and everything that needs to in a review video.

[@gailonebell2154]

This game is so good. After about 400 hours in CIV VI, Humankind is the perfect breath of fresh air. I am loving this game, it's completely awesome. I guess I understand some of the criticism, it's not perfect, but I think it deserves way more love than it seems to be getting.

[@kevinisnotscargaming7296]

If they improve the optimization of the game or add a setting that makes it run faster for dogass pcs like mine I'd replace CIV games for this. The game for the little I could play it is incredible the fact that you could switch cultures between eras make it so that it doesn't feel repetitive the longer you go through a run. Wish the CIV games could do something similar like a unique thing per era

[@Rootiga]

I loved civ V, i hate civ 6 and i REALLY hated humankind. such wasted potential

[@TheSwiftFalcon]

Comparing to Civ 6, I personally don't think Humankind is better in its current state, not by far. I am happy to see Humankind being steadily improved, though, and am hopeful that it will reach a state where it is compelling enough to me that I want to return to it from time to time. Unfortunately though, my biggest problems with the game are kind of fundamental, and I don't see them changing much: * I really don't like the artificial regions the map starts out with. Part of the joy of games like Civ for me, is scouting out the map, finding nice places where I want to settle to exploit nearby resources, and then executing that plan. The fixed regions mostly takes this away, and so also takes most of the joy out of exploration for me. It subdivides the map into a very low number of "mega-tiles", and the result is that the map feels quite small. I wouldn't mind regions being a concept in the game, if it were either a thing which happened gradually through the game as the map was being settled, or a discrete underlying thing, like continents in Civ 6. * City development is not great, and cities are way too sprawling. I'm not saying it's terrible, but compared to Civ 6, I find it a lot less enjoyable. I think part of the problem is that there are simply way too many districts to place down, which makes me lose interest in placement very early on, and just go with whatever the UI suggests most of the time. In Civ 6, at least in the early game, each district is a significant and important development for a city, and I find myself constantly planning out how I want to build my cities. The fact that cities take up so much space on the map also does nothing to help with the map feeling small. As I said, I don't think these issues can really be fixed, as it would require fundamental changes to the game. Some may not see them as issues at all, but judging by how many Civ players bounced off Humankind, it may be worth re-thinking parts of the design if they are doing a sequel. To improve Humankind as it stands, though, I think they are generally on a positive path. Another fundamental problem with Humankind is that the factions end up feeling kind of anonymous, not having the clear and recognizable identity you had in, for example, Civ. They seem to be making some strides towards improving this, though. The new empire names help a little bit, but I'm hoping the World Congress and beefed up diplomacy of the expansion will do more. I would love to see them go even further, and try to infuse the leaders with a bit more personality, and maybe even some abilities of their own. Another area where the game could be improved, is religion. I think the system is underdeveloped and needs a complete overhaul. For one thing, it is quite passive. For another, it seems to pretty much "stop" 1/3 of the way into the game. I think it would be cool if you could customize your religion more, have some unique buildings to build, and maybe tenets which feel like they are impacting your society somehow...you know, something more immersive than "+1 Money on religious extension". I also think that faith should be less oblique in how it works. Turning it into an actively used currency like in Civ 6 might not be a terrible idea.

[@imaanwallace9298]

Thanks so much for making this! It must've taken a lot of time to put together. But it's really helped me understand how much has changed! I was worried the game would sputter and die out, but it seems like it's gaining momentum. Still a fair way to go I think, but it's actually showing promise and that it's delivering on more than good intentions, so I'm feeling optimistic about its future. I still don't quite understand how the voluntary surrender works. Is it something only human players have access to? Or can the AI for example refuse your own surrender if you're losing a war? Prior to watching this, I did play some of the game (after like 6 months away), and I did actually notice the change to empire names! It must've been the first time I paid attention to their names and personalities, it really did a lot for the immersion, even though it was a small thing

[@JumboPixel]

It did take a bit of research, etc yeah! Glad you liked it. Essentially the now 'voluntary force surrender' gives players the option to prolong a war, even if their opponents war support is at zero. Goes either way - but the aggressor must also be aware that their war support will likely be falling too under the pressure. I made a full video about it at the time if you want more: kzbin.info/www/bejne/omarlKhnhNmBZ9k

[@imaanwallace9298]

@@JumboPixel ah thanks for the recommendation, I'll defo check it out! Sure it'll be just as useful!

[@kcw1879]

I have not even thought about Civ since I played this game a year ago. And I played every Civ since 1. It's an amazing original game.

[@ex0stasis72]

25:08 This is part that convinced me to try Humankind. I never played Civ 6 because when I played Civ 5 I would get so addicted, not because I was having fun because it felt so good but because it always felt like it was about to get good, but it never came. As I learn more about my game tastes, I think I like the journey more than the destination. Another example is for MMOs. I can't seem to get into WoW because it's all about the destination (at max level) whereas FFXIV is all about the story (the journey as you level).

[@Syngrafer]

I've played WoW since 2007. I genuinely believe that it's impossible to get into for newer people at this point - only those who have been grasped by nostalgia way back still play it. It's a bloated, putrid mess, a shadow of what it used to be, and not even classic WoW can get away, simply because the players have changed.

[@gunnarstew]

You should try ESO! Level scaling means you can experience all story content no matter your level. You’re pretty much just enjoying the story instead of focusing so much on leveling to get to max level

[@babress3119]

Me and my friends share the opinion that it just fails to be as replayable as civ. And we've found that production is just too strong to make other cultures worth it.

[@ericphillips5264]

Great review. I thought the same about the war support updates.

[@DmytroBogdan]

I tried Humankind at beta and own Civ 6 with both major DLCs and must say Humankind is more difficult for casual players like myself which makes it less popular overall. Watching your video makes me think Apmlitude is trying to narrow the difficulty gap while maintaining its unique feel.

[@milosstojanovic4623]

Now thats the comment i was searching for. Im casual Civ player, and this game looks way more cluttered with information and events and others things. I mean i somehow got the grasp of Civ game building "tactic", but this game looks way more complex or more likely complicated. Somehow i doubt i gonna like it because i just like to play it casually at slow pace, sometimes even using cheats for gold because i dont have time or patience to wait too much.

[@jameslong3058]

I like the combat on HK more than C6 , I also find the transition from relevant culture to culture in a given time period is a better mechanic than the immersive breaking old civs in modern times that is normal in civs Also I really like the ai persona mechanic of HK where you can load your game with human made ai personas

[@robertdomico3622]

Like you said, I think it is unfair to compare a year old game vs a 6 year old game. I currently, I like Civ 6 better. There are a few things about Humankind that I don't know if I like. One is the regions. I like how in Civ, you settle a city. The region things seems strange to me. I am not sure why. In Civ, I really like the excitement of finding out who my neighbor is. If I find it is a warring civ, I know I will have to maintain a larger army. In Humankind, it is hard to keep track of your neighbors changing cultures. I think I like the victory conditions better in Civ, but I think both systems have issues. I really like the combat in Humankind. I also like how in Humankind you can make several cities work on a wonder.

[@Nukestarmaster]

The regions are a holdover from Endless Legend (which Humankind is technically a sequel of). But they don't work as well on Earth as the fantastical Auriga.

[@daytonman]

Humankind’s system where you dont forget pick one culture or civ for the whole game but one each era instead is just awesome

[@TheWraithkrown]

As someone who loved Civ 5 and hated Civ 6, where does that leave Humankind? Due to the mixed reviews I have not picked up Humankind yet, but the comparisons to Civ 6 are one of the things that have prevented me from trying it.

[@artemiusz69]

Still no steam workshop support. Having mod support is vital in extending the game's shelf life and keeping the community alive especially in these kind of games

[@JumboPixel]

Humankind has mod support through Mod Io, not Steam workshop. There are some fantastic mods there, so it’s worth highlighting that in case people are confused by your comment and think there is no third party mod support.

[@artemiusz69]

@@JumboPixel never knew about that. Granted I haven't played humankind since the initial release

[@larikoproduzimentos4501]

I've first played humankind when it was released on gamepass, my first impression was that humankind borrows from civ 6 and endless space 2, but isn't good as neither of those. Guess I'll give it another shot

[@Nukestarmaster]

Honestly, the game that Humankind borrows from the most is Endless Legend, to the point that Humankind is almost Endless Legend 2.

[@SuperAnthonyBennett]

I'm a long term civ player, this video made me decide to give this a go.

[@frederickherrmann9719]

How is it going so far?

[@SuperAnthonyBennett]

@@frederickherrmann9719 TBH I've had a few games and I'm enjoying it. I feel it's not CIV it's very much it's own game.

[@pabloquijadasalazar7507]

16:24 I want them to add War Supply Lines: they function like trade routes, except they start at your cities & follow your troops around, allowing your troops to be sustained far from home. If your enemy can blockade or break your Supply Lines, your troops become demoralized & vulnerable.

[@Alister222222]

I have tried and tried to like this game, but it just doesn't click with me. On the other hand, I feel in total love with Crusader Kings III as an empire builder, (and not because of the sims-like characters). In CK3, cultures diverge, or they hybridize based on local conditions. Humankind's great failure in my mind is that it seems to misunderstand what culture is and how it arises, and makes it seem strangely arbitrary, to the point of being silly. French today, Aztec tomorrow, why not? For me, the why not is 'because that isn't how it works... that isn't how anything works'? On top of all of that, by giving you the option to 'build your own' culture by putting together a stack of existing historical cultures like lego bricks, seems to contradict its own goals. What is it: your own culture, or existing cultures? Their answer to this seems to have taken the worst of both worlds and smoosh them together. The game starts you off in the time literally before nations, with a wandering tribe, and if there was any game at all that would let you be something unique, this should have been it. This is not it.

[@Sam-ui1ll]

Very well put. You just put into words the main issue I've had with this game which is the arbitrary culture swapping mechanic. It just makes it very hard for you to get invested/immersed in the game when your empire is just made up of haphazardly put together cultures which share no relation to nearby geography or geopolitical contexts.

[@Ifaneti]

I really wanted to love Humankind, but I find it hard to get into it. I'm not sure what to do and feel like the AI is miles ahead when I first meet them. I can't figure out what are good spots to settle in, or which buildings or districts I should focus on first (and why). That said, I've never given it a fair chance by trial and error, like I've done with Civ - but because I haven't done that, I can't get into it :/

[@Onebadterran]

I really deeply hate the way cities are set up on the map. Default borders are really annoying and means I cant build my borders the way I want. There is no reason a tiny brand new city should cover a massive area by default.

[@YT-xv8tg]

Jumbo Pixel, I would like to propose to the Humankind developers to implement the possibility of hosting the game (the server) on a separate PC. The player who creates the game is the host of the server, which means a lot of work on his PC and leads to a very noticeable slowdown the further the game progresses (especially in manual battles). Perhaps with this, those of us who have 2 PCs at home can use 100% of the power of one of them to host the game. I really find it very annoying to play the late game with that slowdown in battles. I have to say that my processor is the Ryzen 2700x 🥴 I don't know how to get the message across to them, maybe you do. 🤙🙏

[@HUMANKINDGAME]

We're always watching and noting feedback😉

[@justrynnagitthere1430]

This is set to release on Xbox Game Pass in early November. I hope we get it with these big QoL updates ready to be patched in on day 1 if not already included with the main download.

[@acer3573]

I still think resources distribution LOT of improvement. Instead of requiring 2 or 3 of one resource, change it to deposits of various amounts. Units require different amounts of each and technologies improve exploitation.

[@small3687]

Humankind made improvements by adding more complexity to maps through elevations. Cities and art wasn't as engaging as civ. Humankind loses to civ in a head to head of their city building requirements. Having an increasingly more difficult and resource intense requirement to build another city wasn't fun. It limits going wide in a typical 4x strat. Humankind has a better combat system by introducing stacking limits. Civ makes things too simple with unit interaction. Civ takes the cake overall still though.

[@JS-kr8fs]

It's a good game in its own right, but it it really shot itself in the foot trying to be a Civ killer, by using district spam instead of careful district planning, the Fame system that makes it feel like your people and civilization means less than what's good for your leader, and changing cultures just knocks a lot of the feeling of permanence off. And I hate calling out a specific person like this, because he put the work in, but the narrator's whimsical style just does not fit the monumentality of what you're doing.

[@Lapeno456]

With the next expansion adding better spionage and a world congress thats quite a leap for improvement, next changes would be a better religion system and more crítical a better climate system, would also be great being able to play against more civs than just 11 but with the previous things done id say it can be head to head with civ 6, putting it simple

[@lunais1433]

I don't know what it is about Humankind, but no matter which cultures I pick, every game feels more or less identical. Ancient Era: start-up Classical Era: defeat aggressive neighbors Medieval Era+: grindy, no more threats Humankind is also a lot easier. I mean, after a half-game to get used to the mechanics, I beat it on the highest difficulty on my first full playthrough. Civ 6, on the other hand, has so much more variation. Especially with the policy cards. I'm constantly forced to think about the best choice for the situation (best construction project, best district, best policy cards, etc.) and/or how to optimize the tools I'm given. I really like Humankind's truer approach to world history. But as a game, Civ 6 is just more fun. (P.S. I play single-player, on highest difficulty.)

[@milosstojanovic4623]

Interesting. From gameplays i watched it looks cluttered and complicated too much, at least from my perspective. I mean Civ vi is also complex with its "building tactics", but this looks way more complicated and confusing.

[@lunais1433]

@@milosstojanovic4623 That's what I thought at first, too. But having played both, I have to say Humankind is complicated but simple. For example, all of Humankind's buildings can be simply grouped into categories: Money buildings give Money, Stability buildings give Stability, etc. Civ 6 is like that too, but I feel Civ 6's buildings have a lot more synergy between different yields and game aspects. You'll quickly learn Humankind in a game or so. You'll also quickly learn that most buildings are unnecessary, and that wars are a joke. (Note: I've only played the base game, so the AI may be better now. I don't know.)

[@milosstojanovic4623]

@@lunais1433 cool, i may try it. Civ 6 buildings and their synergy is vastly complicated with a lot of micromanagement, i still think i am not familiar with all of the buildings and traits they can provide xD

[@lunais1433]

@@milosstojanovic4623 If you do try Civ 6, make sure to play with all the expansions. The AI of the base game is terrible.

[@milosstojanovic4623]

@@lunais1433 i do play civ 6 from the release date, its my favorite turn based (and the only one i like) strategy :) Have all dlcs except the last pack or whatever they released :)

[@davidbacon9244]

The game is better, the change in war conditions was awesome, way improved the playability, but there are some changes that are overdue: combat zone - the ability to use an army to control a territory and prevent enemy movement without challenge. The current system makes controlling a vast territory a complete pain in the bu**; trade routes protection- the ability to assign units to guarantee trade route continuity, the current system is so unstable that it becomes impossible to play with a economy based on trade routes, at least in my experience; internal trade routes - set a mechanic that makes you set trade routes to distribute resources, so you can have trade routes even if don't have international connections. After all, most trade routes are national irl, and in game you have machanics that depend on them; better diplomacy- it should be easier and more flexible to maintain relationships throughout the game, give us more options and nuances instead of having an Ally getting pissed at you for no reason and etc. Allow us to force trade and to avoid wars through show of force, etc. There's more, but those are my main desires for the game.

[@sid-alitelab8958]

i think Humankind's wayyyy better

[@michaelhill6453]

Do I need to pay for the existing DLCs to get the updated rule changes? If so, it seems to be a bit rude paying for a "pre-release" game and then being asked to pay for the "almost released" version.

[@JumboPixel]

No, the only paid content I cover was the "New Content" (the two paid DLC culture packs). *All other points,* including the game settings, were included in free updates. I'll make it very clear if something is behind a paywall - if I don't, assume otherwise.

[@bishop918]

As a relative beginner to historical 4x gaming, (having dabbled in Civ4 and Civ5) I am enjoying the heck out of HK. I find it to be more intriguing than the Civ games, which seem to be somewhat bland in comparison. Complexity and learning curve are raised, however for a game that requires heavy consumption of info and strategy to master, this is not much of a bad thing. I find it a challenge to explore possibilities as the map and eras unfold during a session, whereas Civ quickly becomes an exercise in micromanagement.

[@mattnykamp2861]

I played humankind when it first came out. I should try it again to see if I enjoy it more. Big civ and ck3 player My main issues were that the pacing of humankind just was bad. The game eras changed super fast and you basically were forced to mass produce the same district over and over just to keep up. Never got much else built besides the special districts. I really liked the combat system though.

[@labossymane4690]

I think with the expansion coming out on Nov. 9th, and all of the other updates the game will be pretty good. I too played it when it first came out last year, my game crashed when I was in the 5th or 6th era.. had an amazing game too, much heartbreak. Never played since hahaha. Going to give it a try in November

[@francispham6113]

If becomes great, the strategy nerds will come

[@jackhew93]

Not having an essential strategic rss in civ six can be a heavy blow, niter is the biggest one, it’s just really impractical

[@aldaron1021]

Are there any strategic resources or any significant resources in the Seas and Oceans like for example in Civilization? If not what is really the point to play with big Oceans?

[@pvt.prinny759]

Civ V is still the best 4x i've ever played and i doubt it would top that

[@EroPantherH]

I wonder if Humankind will ever add great people into their gameplay...

[@aristideswade2046]

Looks like I need to fire up a game and see how it is now.

[@hungrymexican3431]

I wish they would add way bigger maps I want to be able to go all out and add hundreds of leaders but who knows maybe the game isn't made for that

[@jonahd6978]

Ok question how do you you move armies through train stations and airports as advertised

[@alvaroneto9214]

Have 4000 hours of civ6 and 50 hours of humankind that is currently uninstalled.

[@mikodine]

Where do you live in NZ? I'm in Auckland!

[@kriticalsergi]

Mods killed by updates is depressing.

[@dark_bork]

I played both, but civ 6 for 200 hours and humankind for like 2 hours because it wasn't fun for me

[@Xamarin491]

24:35 The question of which game is better (Civ 6 vs Humankind) *is* a fair question because they are similar games that share the same 4X strategy genre. The comparison is not apples to oranges on the whole here because these are games that are directly competing with eachother for the same player base (4X/Grand Strategy game players). These games may not be exactly the same, but they do not need to be exactly the same in order to make a comparison (in fact, you can compare any game to any other game based solely on a quantified, relative scale how much you enjoyed playing it). Liking both games does not make you biased, just pick a game you think is better. Multiple times in the video, you say Humankind is not the Civ killer, but then you immediately liquify your own opinion by giving excuses for Humankind, like "it's still new" or "I'm biased, don't blame me", and none of this is very helpful to people who only have time or money for one of the games here.

[@johndonaldson3890]

CIV 6 - buggiest release I've ever played. Constantly crashes to the desktop and happened on two different PCs. So I will be very slow to purchase the next Civ release. While I appreciate Humankind, I'm not a fan of how they present their tech trees and other information needed to compare game decisions. I wish the two games would have a trist and Civ would return to being a stable game, and Amplitude would pick up some of the good of Civ's tech trees and in-game information resources.

[@dewaard3301]

Just a similar, but ultimately different game? A large part of why I still play Civ games, is because they are Civ games. And nothing is going to change that for many people.

[@selenevalkirya]

I enjoy a lot both games because they are quite different.

[@TheNicaragua1979]

I have 80 h of gameplay, i play in single player mode and I think is equally with different perks, is good game. I give 8.5/10, for civ5: 9/10 and civ6: 8/10, yes for me is better than civ6.

[@yafes_han]

Being "civ killer" is only popularity contest and consumers are not that flexible to change their favorites

[@blakegurrola]

I'm going to start by saying my opinion is based the entirety of Civilization and not just VI, as VI is the weakest one to-date. HumanKind is fun, smart, and all around enjoyable with other smooth mechanics. That being said, it is less complex, intricate, and much more of a casual strategy game compared to the entire series of Civ. Some of the "stand-out" features in this game are features that have been present in previous games, and while sectioned warring seems fine in theory, it pales in comparison to the incredible sieges of Civ IV. The events, or general distractions in the game are definitely different, but no different from PlanetFall or other related world builders so it doesn't feel...new. Also, the territories remind me a lot of PlanetFall. If we are splitting pure game-play mechanics to try and differentiate these games, then I have to give humankind an A+ for being as close to Civ as possible without completely copying it.

[@everquestfan]

Steam sale 70% off +4 dlc i'm on the fence.

[@michaelschneider1365]

this or age of wonders 4. or both. also how is crusader kings 3. is 3 of these games 2 much. or all different. it’s overwhelming how huge these games are. so is it worth it for slow burn short bursts playing

[@shallendor]

It is fun, but i don't like the territory system, the same problem i have with Age of Wonders: Planetfall!

[@laresilience5829]

It was already a problem in endless legend My biggest issue with it

[@HernanM019]

Another thing I don't like is if you're a little behind and someone else goes to the next era before you, you basically lose the opportunity to get the culture you wanted. A problem that does not happen in Civilization. You pick a civ and that's it. You know your bonuses and your advantages right from the very start of the game. This is the first time a videogame officially includes my country to be played with. Imagine my frustration when I realized that the AI picked it and I could not choose it anymore because of that. I just don't get it, mixing the cultures and changing them and the territory system they chose to go with. Also, why would I engage in a fight to eliminate someone else if that's not going to win my match after all? If the AI has more "fame" than me, I would lose regardless if I send them into oblivion. That doesn't make any sense to me. This isn't a CIV killer at all. I did not enjoy trying this game, it was more frustrating than fun.

[@sleepysteve111]

I'm still very disappointed with the game. The "expansion" better be appropriately priced, as in like 10 bucks or I wont buy it just like I haven't bought any of the other stuff.

[@GreekIrish]

Hard to enjoy Humankind when Vox Populi for Civilization 5 exists.

[@ValvtaSilent]

Yes!

[@arthurbrucecrawford6896]

I am still trying to understand it, as I cannot get past anything. It looks and plays amazing, but it's an entirely different beast altogether.

[@shokew2241]

Humankind is great and is better then civ 6 for me but the main problem is it needs more multiplayer incentive because its hard to find match's while civ 6 its very easy cause very old growth of the community. I think more sales and updates will broaden the player base much more for tis future.

[@tak1203]

Yes, I think so too! PS4/5 is getting to play Humankind as well in November. I still don‘t know whether PS and PC can play together which would be awesome to broaden the multiplayer community

[@DuoMaxwellDS]

There is no way it could be Civ killer. A game can only be killed by itself, as you can see from big title like WoW, SimCity, etc. What I wish for the future of Humankind is more way to interact with other players "peacefully". Right now I feel like after a while everything will come down to military combat, and even though I adore their battle system, I prefer pressure others with culture/religion/economy more than direct war.

[@iggbomb]

Well you’re in luck, the upcoming large dlc proposes to do exactly that

[@HUMANKINDGAME]

@@iggbomb 👀

[@queotzcatl3980]

Just play civ VI. AI is militarly non existent.

[@viarnay]

Despite the civilization saga look Humankind has deepley different mechanics in almost every aspect: battles, managing cities and diplomatics...

[@OleNesie]

I wanted it to be good because I can't play civ 6 anymore due to their launcher

[@mikicerise6250]

Humankind started bugging out for me during battles and I stopped playing it.

[@Reincarny]

I just want Endless Space 3

[@Pvrge.]

Humankind has now 700 concurrent players XD

[@niallreid7664]

The entire idea of a franchise "killer" is a silly immature one. Its never true, as we saw in the 2000s and 2010s with the waves of COD/Halo/WOW "killers" and if I see an article or website pushing that narrative I basically just dump them. Not worth listening to. A franchise kills itself when the quality drops to a point where fans jump ship. Anyway good video.

[@dnaseb9214]

I mean I like it more. I hate the civ 6 mobile game art style. But I donno if Humankind managed. If this game would have been made by endless legend team, and not B team. Ya sure.

[@drthmik]

I bought Humankind a month ago wanting to like it, But for reasons I cannot figure out it just CHUGGS on my system Mouse movement is laggy and imprecise and so slow that I just cannot deal with it for more than an hour I cannot find any settings that would fix it and I've already turned everything down as much as I can, to no improvement at all Civ6 on the other hand always runs smooth as butter Other people may not have this problem, but it is a game killer for me

[@milosstojanovic4623]

What are your specs? if you have decent specs and it works like that, that would be one more reason i will not try it, dont have patience to struggle with unoptimized games...khm.. last of us...khm...

[@neonmoose315]

Well I still play civ5 because my pc can’t handle Humankind nor Civ6 😭

[@tonastytogrimey3888]

Tons of mods seem to be dead at the moment.

[@JumboPixel]

Yeah, I reckon there’s probably two parts to that: 1. Modders are often volunteering their time 2. Humankind is updated semi-frequently

[@Deilwynna]

@@JumboPixel i think it also has to do with unity engine, i personally find it to be harder to work with mods in unity than directly write a mod in xml and sql for civ5 and 6. with how i have experienced unity engine modding, you have to mod a game file that might make it incompatible with any other mod without also making a compatibility mod for each and every other mod that mods the same game file as your mod. meanwhile with how civ handles mods, as long as mods dont use same id's as each other, they are generally fully compatible with each other

[@JumboPixel]

Point 1 - time consuming, huh!

[@itgbeatmakerz3709]

I think Humankind is the Battlefield to Civs Call of Duty

[@motokuchoma]

I wanted to make my own AI factions I can play against like in Stellaris and I'm still mad at them for not implementing it, considering its by far the most requested feature for years.

[@n.bcritical9819]

played this when it came out , the game was kinda .......... too pipelined i don't know how to put it in english but there was something lacking in how the game develops in the mid to late game

[@ConnorNolan]

I love humankind but goddesses it needs work

[@craftsmenMC]

I’ve been wanting to get back into the game since forever. I love the hell out of it. But none of the changes to it since then have changed the most frustrating thing about it: the early expansion. 3/4 games end early because I’m boxed in by other tribes grabbing territory around me to the point that I only have TWO TERRITORIES. I literally cannot expand because the AI continuously grabs anything and everything around me and leaves me with absolutely nothing and no way to catch up. Then there’s the early point leads leaving me in the dust, and whenever I manage to catch up in points, the AI rockets ahead of me again, leaving me zero way to catch up in points. I love this game, but the early game is way too frustrating for it to be consistently fun.

[@OddityDK]

I played it for a couple of months, but I just couldn’t come to terms with the idea of changing cultures, it just ruins the immersion for me. I much prefer leading a specific culture through the ages and had it been more like a tech tree giving you choices for modifying your starting culture with the era changes I would have been more inclined to stick with it.

[@whitelivesmatter2]

same here.

[@rwentfordable]

It is more realistic to have cultures adapted overtime. That's more immersive.

[@rwentfordable]

@@whitelivesmatter2 It is more realistic to have cultures adapted overtime. That's more immersive.

[@milosstojanovic4623]

This game (i wanted it to try from the first day) looks so confusing and cluttered with menus, infos, popup windows and notifications. And on top of that all those explanation sounds to me blah blah blah...war...blah blah blah...culture...etc xD I came to see a reason to download and install it, but i end up deterred from it... 😬

[@Nukestarmaster]

I'll be honest, I hate the entire Era and Era Score system. I hate how all influence/production/gold prices arbitrarily inflate when you advance, I hate how you loose access to your previous emblematic district/unique unit, I hate how wonders and technology are gated behind era. The idea of adopting new cultures over time was interesting, but your nation ends up utterly incoherent and looses it's identity behind a half a dozen different globe spanning cultures. Also, I hate the exponential food consumption of population, it's absurd.

[@Lornext]

Should have been named Mankind. This game was forgotten in less than a month for a reason.

[@dudududu1926]

What's the difference?

[@dagdriver4412]

I never played Civ 6, but I always found combat so underwhelming in the Civ series. While not perfect, I think Humankinds aproach is far superior.

[@jimbo5603]

Too many words to say not that much. Video could have been half the duration.

[@ghastlyghandi4301]

It’s kinda like civ 6 now, except 70% less charm, less interesting district mechanic (you can place any amount and move them so it doesn’t matter if you put one in a bad area), and a weird combat system that slogs the game down everytime you have one battle. But more importantly, this entire “civ 6 killer” doesn’t even have Gandhi! And don’t make the excuse of “oh you can make ur own Gandhi” it’s just not the same! At least there’s nukes..

[@gummy5105]

hey internet historian

[@bandolin1216]

I've been playing Civ since the very first version. Civ6 was a huge disappointment for me. Humankind doesn't need to be a Civ killer. Firaxis is doing a fine job all on their own. Sid Maier and Microprose were doing just fine upto Civ III.

[@milosstojanovic4623]

Lol, thats bollocks, civ v and vi are excellent games, very good to replay number of times.

[@viarnay]

Wow this game is the same as civilization...after 160 turns still stucked in the ancient era and my people is starving🤦‍♂️🤦‍♀️🤦

[@milosstojanovic4623]

Lol 😆

[@sandranichols4922]

without watching the video... nope, humankind isn't very good

[@auraguard0212]

People play Civ 6? O.O

[@milosstojanovic4623]

Yeh a lot of people play because its excellent game !?

[@mediaserver1330]

Humankind has far too many bugs to be seriously considered a contender. The multiplayer code still has sync issues even after a year.

[@rafaelfelix3482]

Civ 6 has hotseat, Humankind does not. The choice for me is clear.

[@newguyiswinning]

Playing a bunch of both, i think Humankind is far better than Civ 6. Very interesting and revolutionary gameplay in this genre. I think the biggest issue is the learning curve is much bigger than Civ 6

[@queotzcatl3980]

CIV VI is for 8 years old whiners. It was an adult, pc gamers game, thats why Civ V got more credit than VI. And IV was even more tuff. Its just natural that at one point a mediocre title could dethrone the king. It went corrupted. It lost focus, going after easy pleasure and gold....

[@wyqtor]

Old World is probably better than both Civ VI and Humankind.

[@reddragon7762]

i bought this thinking it would be good. T'was not that great. have played thousands and thousands of hours of civ. own all civ games.

[@fall190]

No civ has any flavor and the only difference between your enemies is their color. This game is the death of culture. The sludge must flow.

[@funbucket09]

Omg why are you rolling your R's today?!? SlidERs, playERs etc etc. Just the R's at the end of words. I don't understand why but it is driving me mental. Maybe because you don't usually do it.