Hungarian past of Ukraine's Transcarpathia (Honest History. Episode 4)

This is the fourth episode of "Honest History" by the Kyiv Post, a series that aim to debunk myths about Ukrainian history that are used by propagandists. The series is supported by the Black Sea Trust, a project of the German Marshall Fund of the United States. Opinions expressed do not necessarily represent those of the Black Sea Trust, the German Marshall Fund or its partners.
Read more about the history of tensions in Ukraine's Zakarpattya (Transcarpathia): bit.ly/2m3S966
Read other stories from the Honest History series: bit.ly/2um35zs

[@sujoms]

Dear Kyiv Post, Without any anger I would like to point out that here in Hungary, Slovaks, Romanians and other minorities have the right to study and educate in their own language... I will just leave this here. I think it is enough to make a point. Kindest regards.

[@balbalblaify]

Dear hungarian Without any anger, nobody is forbidding you to have lessons of hungarian language in schools or speaking hungarian with the closed ones. What we demand is for you to know the official language of the state you live in - ukrainian. Just as you, demand the immigrants to learn hungarian in Hungary, so we demand foreigners to learn and know ukrainian in Ukraine.

[@balbalblaify]

@Janos Musatic 1. We're in the 21st century. Your country affiliation is directly connected to the borders of the state you live in. So if a Hungarian lives within Ukraine's border, he's automatically a foreigner. Same story with Poles, Russians or any other nationality. 2. Nobody is forbidding you to speak or learn your language. We demand you to know Ukrainian. 3. Don't want to remind how your country treated ethnic minorities back in the days. So be happy we didnt forbid you to speak hungarian at all.

[@julianaxxo3626]

Janos Musatic so Basarab is the descendant of Genghis Khan? .... and Romanians are actually Albanians? interesting, but I don't understand how the hell there are more than Hungarians, Bulgarians and Albanians together ?? to understand that they came into possession of a land that was not inhabited? .... by the way, the Moldovans from where they emigrated, I think they came from Africa, right? :)))) When I want to find out history, I always ask a Hungarian, they know everything every time! :)))))

[@julianaxxo3626]

Janos Musatic “Your language is Latinised”, what? how do you know what nationality and language I have? Have you already labeled me?

[@julianaxxo3626]

Janos Musatic How did you make the association, so if the Bessarabian dynasty are descendants of Genghis Khan, obligatorily and the population he leads, is a descendant of the Mongols :)))) while the Hungarians, although they had hundreds of years kings and emperors of other origins and nationalities, they are still Hungarians :))))

[@stevetrosok9438]

This land belonged to Hungary for 1100 years.

[@attilademko2601]

Well, Ukraine broke a bilateral treaty between UKR and Hungary with the education law. That is different from other neighbours.

[@attilademko2601]

@Eric Perez What lady? The issue here is not territory, but breaking the very friendly relations we used to have between 1991-2014, by destroying the education system in Hungarian above class 4 and lack of respect for Hungarian language and culture in general. That is the problem since 2014, nobody talks about territory. The spirit of the treaty was clearly violated by Ukraine, if not letter.

[@catnap387]

@@louisecorchevolle9241 Says the Russian!!! We should all look to Russia to show us what democracy is

[@Baso-sama]

@@catnap387 who gives a fuck about russia? stop pointing at russia because we could not give less of a nonexistent fuck about them. we care about what's happening in ukraine and it is literal nazies marching on our streets who want to slit our throats.

[@szalard]

Hungarians in Transkarpathia are not some migrants who moved 10 years ago, but live from 1100 years ago there, while the Ukrainians moved only 50-60 years ago. The old buildings, cultural institutions (theatres, universities, schools, etc., or the castles and fortresses which were built to stop the Crimean Tatar invasions comming from the direction of todays Ukraine) there were all built by Hungary before 1918. Because that region belonged to Hungary 1000 years. The Hungarian education which Ukraine wants now to ban, has a 1000 years history in that region, long before any Ukrainian lived there! This is also true for the Hungarian language, which is spoken from 1100 years ago there! The Ukrainian language started there to be spoken only after the Soviet Union received Transkarpathia from Hungary in 1945. Mayn Russins lived there before that, but they are more Russians than Ukrainians, as their name show this. Ukraine, which received these territories as a result of the falling apart of the Soviet Union (which received the territories as a war bounty from Hungary after the II. World War), today wants to take all these away, assimilate or chase away the original inhabitants of that region, take away the schools, churches, built by the Hungarians. All these contravene the international treaties about the rights of national minorities, which Ukraine had signed, and also the Ukrainian constitution, which say that the minorities have the right to learn and speak in their language. With these laws Ukraine tries to forcedly assimilate the minorities in Ukraine, and the Hungarians too. Hungary helped in every way possible (it was the first country to vote for Ukraines acceptation as a partner state of EU, let families of the Ukrainian fighters against the Russian separatists from Donbass to stay for free in Hungary in holyday, let Ukraine to use the gass pipe line, etc.), and it was very friendly to Ukraine prior they issued their anti Hungarian and minority laws. So to accuse Hungary of uniting with Russia to take Ukraine apart is a big lie! Hungary said that it will oppose Ukraine's adheration to the EU and NATO, only after Ukraine started to make anti-Hungarian language laws, and the Ukrainian terrorists backed by the Poroshenko government started to attack the ethnic Hungarians, burn the Hungarian cultural institutions seats, and threaten the Hungarian minority persons. Hungary cannot accept that the Hungarians from Ukraine to be persecuted, and their language to be banned. And it said: until Ukraine it will try to assimilate by force and terrorize the Hungarians from Transkarpathia, it will block Ukraines adheration to the UE and NATO. If the Ukrainian government will take back these anti-Hungarian laws, and if it will stop menacing the Hungarians, will stop terrorist organizations to burn Hungarian institutions, to declare the Hungarians as enemies of the state, to put death lists with the names, addresses, id numbers, etc., of Hungarians on internet sites, menacing them to be killed, etc., then Hungary will vote for Ukraines entrance in the EU or NATO. So Hungary wants Ukraine to join EU, but before that they must stop harrassing and trying to assimilate or chase away the Hungarians from Transkarpathia.

[@jenniferbucci6987]

U are on point Keep up the great work I will lobby my Congress to stop supporting Ukrains military

[@szalard]

@@jenniferbucci6987 Thank you very much. God bless you!

[@sargonvonkaizer8925]

the indigenous population of Ponnonia and Transcarpathia is a Slavic tribs, and not the descendants of the Huns and Ugrians

[@szalard]

@@sargonvonkaizer8925 You do not know history. Didn't you knew that before any Slavs in Pannonia or the Carpathic Basin, were the Huns (from the 4th century until 456), then the Avars (from 568 to the 9th century), and they are the ancestors of the Magyars. The first scattered Slavig groups came in the 7th century, but they were minority. So the ancestors of the Magyars were here far earlier than the Slavs.

[@sargonvonkaizer8925]

@@szalard If you understand genealogy, then you will understand that the DNA of modern Hungarians has nothing to do with Avars and Huns. This is an imposed Pan-Turkic stereotype. But genetics clearly made it clear that Hungarians are 70% Slavs and 30% Germans, Central Asia and the Urals 0) I am already silent about the haplogroups.

[@szalard]

And when we hear that the Ukrainian government accuses and persecutes the Hungarians from Transkarpathia, because some of them have double citizenship, is desgusting and outrageous! How about half of the representatives of the Ukrainian parliament, which at least half of them has double citizenship? How about former or present Ukrainian ministers, like Saakashwili? How about Natalie Jaresko former Ukrainian finance minister? How about Aivaras Abromavičius Ukraines former Minister of Economy and Trade? How about Alexander Kvitashvili, former Minister of Healthcare? How about Ulana Suprun, the actual Minister of Healthcare of Ukraine who is double American-Ukrainian citizen?

[@erikaskyba8514]

How about Transcarpathian Rusins who cannot learn their history, culture and traditions but Ukrainian ones which are made up by Russia? Ukrainian Constitution does not prohibit double citizenship by the way, so they better learn their own laws!!!

[@alekshukhevych2644]

@@erikaskyba8514 Wtf are you talking about. Bro you on some next shit!

[@alekshukhevych2644]

@Alaskan Wolf Hungary for sure has a larger RIght Wing presence.

[@catnap387]

@@erikaskyba8514Because Rusyny are Ukrainian. A very small proportion view themselves as a different ethnos and these views are fuelled by outsiders. Leave Ukraine to rule themselves without foreign wolves waiting at the door!!

[@Baso-sama]

@@catnap387 lying peace (intentional) of

[@yatumux]

The normal basic form to handle a minority is to give them autonomy. Like Barcelona you know 😀 more than 150.000 Hungarian living in Kárpátalja the mass of the other population are NOT Ukrain but Rusyns... they also need autonomy. It is easy to understand.

[@beelazy3882]

Rusyns are Ukrainians. Greetings from Transcarpathia))) No autonomy

[@yatumux]

@@beelazy3882 I see! This is what you’re doin at your eastern border. Oh my gosh. That is NOT your border anymore... Learn from the lesson ! Ruszin people are not ukranians at all 🙂

[@dusi9998]

@@beelazy3882 no, I don't consider myself ukrainian!you are not part of Transcarpathia!

[@balzug]

Exactly, Serbia gave autonomy to Hungarians and also recognizes the Rusyn language as official. Btw, Ukraine does not even reconizes the Rusyns as ethnicity. That's all a bad joke. And a very good example to show the chauvinism of Ukraine.

[@catnap387]

@@balzug How you comment on Ukraine and no comment on what russians are doing in Ukraine. That's a joke. But hungarian putin supporters always admire imperialist leaders like the one they have now

[@JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly]

By the end of this entire war, every neighboring country will grab their slice of Ukraine like a pizza!

[@nini11261]

hopefully yes

[@darthtyranusd378]

@@nini11261 uzzhorod hungary🇭🇺 Odessa romaian 🇹🇩 Lvlv Stanisławów stanislavov poland🇵🇱

[@Playstionful]

🇭🇺🤞 time to return

[@Playstionful]

@Washing Machine time place ?

[@catnap387]

@Washing Machine How sick is your mind!!. Is that how people in poland view women. Germany and Czechia might want their territory back from poland.

[@aliengalaxy6096]

Ukraine exist since 1991 :) Any question? Ukraine made up from Poland, from Russia, From Hungary and from Romania, and in the center part is the original Ukraine.

[@aliengalaxy6096]

@B Roli The center part is the original Ukraine. I think Russia also came from the Kievian Rus.

[@alekshukhevych2644]

@@aliengalaxy6096 So is the west Ukraine. It was the Rus Kingdoms of Galicia Volynia. So no, center and west Ukraine together with Carpathian is original Ukraine.

[@romania1918]

Ukrainian its cossack. Cossack on Dniper river

[@kazior6521]

@@alekshukhevych2644 Technically, and I say mostly you are correct. The borderland parts of Kievan Rus had ethnic minorities. Who dominated, I’m not sure. For example, In the 9th and 10th centuries there were branches of Lechitic aka Polish tribes inhabiting areas of Red Ruthenia/ Eastern Galicia (aka the Red Towns), which occupied up to most of today’s L’viv oblast. These “red towns” were disputed since the early formation of Poland and Kievan Rus nations.

[@alekshukhevych2644]

@@kazior6521 There were no branches of lechitic tribes inhabiting red Ruthenia, which ones are you talking about? As far as I know Galicia is territory of White Croats. Perhaps you are right, I am not sure. But those Polish minorities were indeed just that, minorities.

[@pixelprintpkuchannel1348]

Google says transcarpathia historically belongs to hungary

[@yordanstefanov5570]

It belongs to Ukraine. 4/5 of transkarpatian population are ukranians. Hungarians are only 1/10 and rusyns 1/50 , meaning its ukranian.

[@catnap387]

Zakarpattia is Ukrainian

[@aaaaaa2206]

@user-wc1sh3ym8r Ukrainians are the invaders in Transcarpathia. Ukraine annexed Polish Galicia, Hungarian Transcarpathia, and Moldavian, Russian territories as well. Ukrainians killed Hungarians in Transcarpathia, burnt their community house down and vandalized it several times. Russians and other minorities are not allowed to use their native language in their annexed native homelands. The Ukrainian state is braking it's own minority laws, they deliberately oppress minorities. Avdivka is being encircled by the Russians as we speak, thousands of soldiers are trapped in the settlement. Russian advancement on the frontline is accelerating. Soon Ukraine will not be in a position to decide about the faith of Transcarpathia and other annexed regions, but Putin will.

[@Usererror405]

My Google says it is belongs to Ukraine Treaty of Potsdam says

[@verestamas3920]

@@yordanstefanov5570 Thanks to Ukrainian xenophobia. The Hungarians and their hundreds of years of historical memories are destroyed, and the Ruthenians are denied as a people. So if Transcarpathia becomes Hungary again (Will not), then we must act similarly to the Ukrainians, and after 100 years, 90% of everyone in the area would be Hungarian. (it won't happen, because on the one hand, there is no such effort for territorial recovery in Hungary, and even if it were to come true, ethnic minorities would not be treated in Hungary in the same way as in Ukraine)

[@Vladtepes1111]

What a bunch of crap. What is a 40 million population Ukraine afraid of the 150 thousand Hungarians. Treat your minorities right and they will stand by you. Why should Hungary not care about its ethnic minority abroad? Would you not stand up for your own Ukrainian minority in similar situations?

[@Baso-sama]

a sensible Romanian. always a pleasure to see one.

[@ArpadiusTheGreat]

In otherwords ukraine has no legal or legitimate claim to the region and needs to hand back the territory to Hungary.

[@YummYakitori]

1:55 Umm the Avars were definitely not West Slavic lmao

[@alekshukhevych2644]

Yeah....our channels got some work to do lol.

[@jurajfilin7180]

Slavic tribes constituted the dominant population but Avars were the temporary occupiers of the territory.

[@jurajfilin7180]

In Slovakia two biggest minorities (Hungarian, Ukrainian-Ruthenian) have the whole system of elementary and grammar schools with teaching completely in their language, with Slovak as a foreign language with final exam. That is a quite liberal model, maybe suitable for others, too. There are also theatres for minorities. All that is financed by the state, of course.

[@Baso-sama]

​@QWE being able to learn stuff in school in your mother language on a land which you and your ancestors live on for more than a thousand years is not irredentism you absolute tool.

[@losonczibalazs]

Sorry but in Slovakua the Benes decrets are still a part of the judiciary system that punish the Hungarian minorities collectively and also you have a language law that forbids for example discussion between a Hungarian doctor and its Hungarian patient in Hungarian. Also you do not provide any territorial autonomy and when the new regional system of Slovakia was founded, it was a very important goal to create regions in Slovakia without Hungarian majority. So, no, Slovakia is a multiethnic state though but simply not an example of preserving its minorities. This is not a coincidence that the numbers of Hungarians in Slovakia decreased from 650 000 to below 450 000 in 30 years.

[@anuszbizsergetokommentek2171]

@QWE than maybe give those lands back to hungary? Oh yeah I forgott than slovakia would lose its independence

[@catnap387]

So tell me what sort of interference and war has Slovakia fought since 1991. Where has Slovakia got its financial support from?

[@empat8052]

The kievan rus never controlled that area just for your information :)

[@erikaskyba8514]

What a shame! How much are you paid for this shit?

[@irenmolnar221]

It has more than 156000 Hungarian and YES they took their right!!!!! We want that territory back it belongs to Hungarians!!!!

[@yordanstefanov5570]

Ukraine twice offered to Hungary to return Beregovo. Hungary refused. So your government doesn't want that. Only your vote.

[@yordanstefanov5570]

One poor city and its suroundings won't make you richer.

[@albapatriotproductions1198]

​@@yordanstefanov5570 did Ukraine offer Hertsa to Romania? I don't think so, even if that land is 95% romanian.

[@yaroslavbouchet]

The population consists of 80,5% of Ukrainians and 12% of Hungarians. About what right you are talking about?

This is mindless propaganda. First Hungary does not want back Transcarpathia, secondly the new Ukrainian language law violates the rights of the Hungarians. With this kind of law Ukraine will never will be part of Eu nor Nato. The Ukrainian education law stipulates that secondary and post-secondary education in the country will be only in Ukrainian, and children from national minority groups will be able to study in their native languages only at the primary school level. While the law entered into force this year, the full switch to Ukrainian language-education is scheduled for September 1, 2020.

[@rommelnyk]

if Ukrainian citizens of Hungarian origin doesn't know Ukrainian language at all what should the Ukrainian government do?

:) And according to your logic the answer would be to deny Hungarians education in their language thus depriving them of their rights. Thus Ukraine is violating international law because according to the law the rights already possessed by ethnic minorities cannot be revoked. It is one of the most important statutory instruments of the EU. The situation with new Ukrainian law is plain and clear: it's a crime and violation of international law because denies the ethnic minorities a right to have access to education in their first language. It's an obvious step back from the previous state of ethnic minorities and it breaks the international law and the existing treaty with Hungary and it is not respecting the verdict of Venice commission.

[@rommelnyk]

Hungarians will still have the primary education in their native language. But it will be balanced now and let them learn Ukrainian.

[@zakhysnyk_vilkh]

Ukrainian media is a mess. It’s anti everything that isn’t ethnically Ukrainian.

[@alekshukhevych2644]

@@zakhysnyk_vilkh Ukraine is a post colonial country that is trying to salvage and safe what is left of its ancient language and culture.

[@CRI_PL]

Zakarpacie jest Węgierskie

[@ferencvarosfan2702]

Transcarpathia is hungary 🇭🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺

[@louyachty9037]

Come and take it

[@louyachty9037]

Why just talking? Take it and you step closer to great hungary. Or how you call it? magyarichurkastan?

[@louyachty9037]

@Washing Machine poles lithuenians... speak for your nation churka. Come on turul warrior.

[@mickpeterson3722]

​@@louyachty9037hey where did all that territory go in the east? Just wait till the west finishes betraying you

[@maniac7979]

Забавно,жаль что так получилось,нужно исправить это досадное недоразумение,это территория венгров

[@andrew_alxf]

Transcarpathia is Hungarian

[@soul_in_balance6923]

And soon Hungary will get it back. 🇭🇺♥️🇷🇺

[@navjeetrakhra7672]

Galicia and Volyn region is Polish. Poland will get it back. Russia 🇷🇸 Poland 🇵🇱 Hungary 🇭🇺

[@boni6717]

@@navjeetrakhra7672 true shit

[@aliengalaxy6096]

You explained well. Transcarpathia was belonged to Hungary more than 1000 years long. Any question? This is justice to get back to Hungary. By the way do you know Kiev founded by Hungarians in the 9th?

[@julianaxxo3626]

aliengalaxy.....You are incredibly crazy :))) your land is in the Urals, you Hungarians came to Europe and conquered the land of others .... don't cry so much, you should be grateful that you have a country among Europeans .... only in your brains do you believe you are the masters of the world, idiots :)))

[@aliengalaxy6096]

@@julianaxxo3626 Huns was the Carpatian Basin before the Slavs. Hungarians are descendants of Huns/Avars/Parthian/Scythians New DNA tests prove the connection between the Huns and Hungarians. journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0205920 Area of the horse-archer nations: maghon.weebly.com/uploads/2/0/0/3/20035969/szkitia_002.jpg In the past always was connection beetwen Europe and Central Asia and Hungarians came back as the descendant of the Huns. Hungarian old chronicles said "Hungarians came from Scythia." Also contemporary documents call Attila the Hun is the king of the Scythian. Same warfare, same art, same culture. The Szekelys are held their is the nation of Csaba Princess the son of Attila the Hun. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythians www.stormfront.org/forum/t430217/ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szarvas_inscription en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tărtăria_tablets en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treasure_of_Nagyszentmiklós en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythian_art en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Hungarian_script www.google.co.uk/search?q=Treasure+of+Nagyszentmiklós&client=opera&hs=u1l&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiGs6--5o_mAhVjmVwKHf4CDh4Q_AUoAXoECA0QAw&biw=1920&bih=1090 szkitahun.wordpress.com/2016/10/23/atilla-sword-of-god/ www.google.co.uk/search?q=scythian+deer&client=opera&hs=44l&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwij65ac54_mAhVxolwKHWOYBiYQ_AUoAXoECAkQAw&biw=1920&bih=1090 www.google.co.uk/search?client=opera&hs=hQR&tbm=isch&q=horse+archery+hungary&spell=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiowa6354_mAhXEzIUKHXFdD4oQBQg9KAA&biw=1920&bih=1090&dpr=1 Jordanes embellished the report of Priscus, reporting that Attila had possessed the "Holy War Sword of the Scythians", which was given to him by Mars and made him a "prince of the entire world" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordanes en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gesta_Hungarorum Anonymus writes of the Hungarians' departure from Scythia Anonymus states that the Hungarians "chose to seek for themselves the land of Pannonia that they had heard from rumor had been the land of King Attila"whom Anonymus describes as Álmos's forefather. Also the chinese alphabet use the same font for Huns and Hungarians only, no more meaning of this font, check the definition section. en.wiktionary.org/wiki/匈 The Habsburgs (and Ottomans) destroyed the old castles, churches, cities, books etc. The Habsburgs immigrated many other nations to land of Hungary because they want break the Hungarians and use the other ethnic groups against them (because Hungarian fought a lot against Habsburgs), after the Habsburgs made the fake Finno-Ugric theory to take the real Hun-Scythian past from the Hungarians. Every old contemporary documents, chronicles reffer Hungarian as Scythians.

[@solteszgergelyzs]

@@julianaxxo3626 You are misinformed my friend. Archeologists found a Tatarlakai Medallion in Transylvania ("Tatárlak" in hungarian) by N. Vlassa an archeologist in 1961, which has hungarian runic writings on it, they estimate it is 6500 years old. Actually "we" were here before slavs and germans. This is no shady secret, it is solid evidence not some tale, you can look at it in a museum with your two little eyes, it is in Romania, Cluj-Napoca (Kolozsvár in hungarian). These perpetual lies you just spewed have ended sry.

[@aliengalaxy6096]

@@solteszgergelyzs More info: www.quora.com/What-do-you-know-about-Hungarian-history/answer/David-Szabo-60?ch=10&share=668926d7&srid=ui6O1N

[@alekshukhevych2644]

@@aliengalaxy6096 Huns have nothing to do with Hungarians. Hungarians are an Ugro-Finnic people which came from the territory of modern central Russia. Slavs were there long before Hungarians.

[@balzug]

1) Hungary did not get Transcarpathia in alliance with Nazi Germany. Hitler did not support Hungary. When Hungarian troops moved in there were villages where German minorities were awaiting the German army with 3rd Reich flags and were surprised due to the Hungarian soldiers. 2) The numbers are not the strong skills of the girl. There are 9,8 million people living in Hungary and about 150000 Hungarians in Transcarpathia.

[@noodlyappendage6729]

Transcarpathia belongs to Hungary 🇭🇺 not Ukraine 🇺🇦 Love from 🇬🇧

[@DanTheHedgehog]

If Hungary decides to occupy Transcarpathia, it will be deplorable for Hungary itself. Against an experienced, motivated army with a large number, the war cannot be won.

[@noodlyappendage6729]

@@DanTheHedgehog I’m just telling it how it is. It’s been a part of Hungary for far longer then it has Ukraine.

[@zoltanzzolt]

​@@DanTheHedgehog? Russia is going to make ukraine capitulate , you wont recieve from nato anything nor enter nato and EU untill our lands are given back

[@aaaaaa2206]

@@DanTheHedgehog When Russia steamrolls Ukraine, makes the left over members of the Ukrainian military surrender, and wins the war, there might not be a need for Hungary to take Transcarpathia by force. It is in Putin's interest to create a weak rump state out of Ukraine so maybe he will just give the region back to Hungary.

[@erikt1713]

Hopefully the situation of the Transcarpathian Hungarians is also going to improve after a peace deal with Russia. Potentially, Ukraine will learn to treat its minorities a bit better. The opposite could also happen. Ukrainian nationalism might get even stronger in the remaining territory after the war.

[@JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly]

After reading all I could about the origins of this current war over the past three months, I see the opposite as likely…even inevitable.

[@painkillerkhalil]

east and south ukraine to Russia, transcarpathia to hungary, galicia to Poland. at the end of this war ukraine will be split apart like a pizza. everyone will have a slice of ukraine at the end of this

[@soul_in_balance6923]

@@painkillerkhalil Let‘s hope so. Ukraine is an artifical state, that‘s for sure.

[@catnap387]

Pathetic reply since Orban is a close nationalist buddy of nationalist putin.

[@painkillerkhalil]

@@soul_in_balance6923 yep exactly

[@somethingirreversib]

There were no "ukrainians" in Transcarpathia in the 9th century, but slavs and non-slavic avars . By this logic Ukraine also stole the lands from the tatars and Dombass, Crimea is an illegitimate ukrainian territory, so nothing to cry about. So thats a bad logic I guess. There is also no historical Ukraine, but a Kiev-Russ principality, which was never close to Transcarpathia. Speaking of of the region, it was inhabited by majority russins as a matter of fact, it was annexed to seperate Poland from Hungary. The region was pretty wealthy in Austro-Hungarian times, but now its suffering in a failed state. Also imagine USA prohibiting spanish in California and then complaining about Mexico, your argument is just wrong.

[@catnap387]

The old name for Ukrainians is Rusyn

[@ulanten892]

@@catnap387 no.ukrainian and rusyn is two different think

[@yordanstefanov5570]

@@ulanten892 its almost the same thing. Rusyn/ruthene is the old austrian term for ukranians. Also the region was one of the poorest in Europe with no industry. Mostly rural, uneducated folks with medieval mindset in early 20th century. Great governing from hungarians! Even russians did better job with the region.

[@ulanten892]

@@yordanstefanov5570 actually none of them are ukrainian.ruthenians are no ukrainians.they were an east slavic group in the middle ages.they destends are belarusians ukrainians and rusyns.but that doesnt mean that they were ukrainian.and rusyn is not same as ruthenian.rusyns are an east slavic nation in subcarpathia eastern slovakia vojvodina and small part of poland.even rusyn language is 99.9 the same as ukrainian but they are different languages and call them ukrainians is pretty ignorant.rusyns have own national identity and they love hungarians and they protest together with hungarians for call ukrainian state for stop oppressing them.they want join to hungary and being part of oppressor ukraine

[@catnap387]

@@ulanten892 No thinking from you. You are a loyal putin follower.

[@presh3681]

Transcarpathia is Hungary!

[@TheOlgaSasha]

Just in your wet dreams...

[@TheOlgaSasha]

@Stuka Obergruppentruppenstuppensturm сontinue to dream...

[@harmathi6968]

@@TheOlgaSasha just wait and see whats about to happen with russia from the east and then the west will come

[@TheOlgaSasha]

@@harmathi6968 It will happen as in 2014 - thousands of Russians were killed and buried nowere in Ukraine. You are next, welcome...

[@SpanishEnthusiastt]

@@TheOlgaSasha it's gonna happen 😈😈😈😈

[@zoltanzzolt]

Give back the territory

[@darchness9272]

Hm...? Majority population of that area is Slavic and was for centuries. Hungary at its current size represent areas where Hungarians are majority. No need to enlarge Hungary with more Slavic territory. Just accept Trianon and stop making troubles.

[@RomanII499]

⁠@@darchness9272We aren't Ukrainian, we are Rusyns. Ukraine is suppressing out culture so we desperately want to be part of another country.

[@hollywoodhh5646]

100 000 hungarians in Ukraine have hungarian passports that is totally false. If 50 000 is maximum. Many families are mixed outside of maybe beregszasz or chap those are majority hungarian but those places are very small. As for 500 000 hungarians having hungarian passports outside of hungary who cares I live in Canada and have a hungarian passport that means absolutely nothing. And lastly even Ukrainians in trans carpatia would be better off as part of hungary. As this biased women even said wages are 5 times higher in hungary and even Ukrainians as a minority in hungary would have a much higher standard of living than in Ukraine. Ukraine and Ukrainians never had any standard of living at any time. That's why there are so many here in Canada and still coming here for over a century. Keep eating your cabbage and praying to your Jebus in your pointy orthodox churches nothing will change. And lastly this Russia nonsense Russia and hungary are not so called best friends hungary is a part of NATO have American military base and is part of EU hungary gets alot of gas from Russia so therefore they must have an amicable relationship thats it end of story.

[@SokkingBTtulaj]

Dont forget that they doxxed the Hungarians who had dual citizenship (basic right by EU law) and their gov sponsored the hate crimes in transcarpathia.

[@rysio92]

Ukraine got west Ukraine, Carpathia and Bukovina nad part of Besarabia as a bonus from USSR. They did't conquer it, took or someone voted to be in Soviet Ukraine.

[@rosintruder6867]

Czech got sudetenland, poland got wroclaw, silesia, gdansk, pomerania - parts of eastern germany as a bonus from USSR . They didn't conquer it, took or someone voted to be in czech and poland

[@rysio92]

@@rosintruder6867 Polish Army and Red Army conquer it. 1944/45

[@alekshukhevych2644]

@@rysio92 Those areas were and still are populated by majority ethnic Ukrianians!!

[@rysio92]

@@alekshukhevych2644 After deportation of Polish, Hungarian and Romanians. Southern part of Carpathia is populated by Hungarian majority. They should unite with historical country.

[@th-uh2oo]

@@rosintruder6867 Polish government NEVER agreed to change of Polish borders After WWII. In Response Allays of Poland USA, England. France and Russia dissolved Polish government by acknowledging communist government under jurisdiction of Russia. Newly created communist government agreed to the change of borders. Deportation of Poles from this territory began in 1944 . This map was completed in November 1941. The date on the map "March 31 -1942 " is the date when the map entered Library Of Congress . Please read No34 in map description. www.loc.gov/resource/g3200.ct001256/?r=0.129,0.171,0.819,0.284,0

[@salamyaya162]

Lol everyone wants a piece of Ukraine.

[@gyorgynemeth8008]

Propaganda?

[@theday2918]

Es ez

[@alekshukhevych2644]

Of course propaganda, it is about time Ukraine had its own. Our fight is not with Hungary, but with Russia. But sadly Budapest is not making it easy for us. Orban seems to like bending over for Putin!

[@gyorgynemeth8008]

У Орбана хватит вратить права венграм што им собрали а всё би било в порядку

[@alekshukhevych2644]

György Németh ohh why is my Hungarian friend speaking Russian all of the sudden?

[@gyorgynemeth8008]

Викручуешся з теми знаю і по українськи

[@belafesztbaum9005]

В киевских летописях Карпаты называются Угорскими горами. Подразумевается, что в XII-XIII веках в Киеве считали, что они не имеют никакого отношения к этой территории. Если бы в районе Карпат жили славяноязычные жители, которые имели отношение к Киеву, они бы не назвали эту местность Угорскими (венгерскими). Вероятно, именно после монгольского завоевания славяноязычные жители Киевской Руси бежали в Карпаты. До прихода монголов предгорья Карпат могли быть венгерским протекторатом, что вполне вероятно, поскольку Львов, Черновцы, Кишинёв имеют венгерские собственные названия.

[@stevetrosok9438]

It is pure Hungarian land that was stolen at the treaty of Trianon. Ukraine has no business on that side of the Carpathian mountains. They are ethnic Hungarians and there is no denying that. Why are they there, ask yourself that before making uninformed comments like in this video.

[@aaaaaa2206]

Russia is gaining territories in the majority Russian populated east Ukrainian oblasts. It makes sense for them to take the regions east of the Dnyeper river, which is a good natural defense line and a suitable border. The Russians want to capture the whole southern coastline of Ukraine to make it a land locked country. This weakens Ukraine economically an it also makes it easier to defend the majority Russian annexed regions. Most of Ukraine's population is gone, they escaped to the west to Europe and they most probably won't be coming back to Ukraine when the war ends. Today Ukraine's population is maybe 15 million. The economy is shambles, significant portions of their farmland is owned by American, Dutch and Arabic investors and hedge funds. Ukraine as we know it is gone. The minority populations of Ukraine were treated like second class citizens (including Russians and Hungarians), and the territories they live in belonged to other countries originally before WW2. Putin stated that he doesn't want Russia to rule over peoples who hate them, they just want their ethnic Russians in Ukraine to be safe which is why Russia annexed their lands. Russia will most likely win the war and when the peace treaties happen, they will propose to give the territories annexed by Ukraine from Poland, Hungary and Moldova back to their respective countries. This means that the Hungarian and Rusin populations which live together in Transcarpathia will probably choose to become part of Hungary. I think Hungary will ask the Transcarpathians in a referendum about it. Their answers will very likely be to belong to Hungary I think.

[@michalcukan2616]

people like you should be punished for such a hitleric commentaries.Your wet dreams will never come true!Putler is terrorizing milions of Russians and Russian speakers in Odess or Kharkov.And Poland is clearly supporting Ukraine in its effort.If by chance Orban would start some provokation let me recall you that south from Uzhorod there are mostly plains that are harder to defend.So instead of gaining a control of what used to be a homeland of Gens fidelissima of Rakoczy in early 1700s, they could risk some more diminution of their land.Many Hungarians are not living in the past, they live for the past!And they do not want real good to the Carpathoruthenians, just to let you remember that the illiteracy rate in that region was the highest in the former Kingdom of Hungary, within the duality of Austro-Hungarian empire.And dont get me wrong- I have Slovak, Ruthenian,Ukrainian and Hungarian too I like Hungarian culture, I hate Hungarian chauvinism.It is very blind even to themselves..I dont want to see armed conflicts here anymore!

[@AS-zo6um]

Amen!

[@mirekpilsudski]

Honest history on this channel usually means the complete opposite.

[@DanielMirk]

She is reading everything. How pathetic. lol

[@hungary8955]

Nagyon nem bírom, ahogy magyaráz...

[@hungary8955]

@Δ Persze nem említi, hogy ott többségben (baráti) ruszinok élnek, kik szintén Magyarországhoz tartoznának. Meg valahogy külföldön nem értik sose, kinek jár az igazság. Valamiért 10-ből 8 biztos Ukrajnát, Romániát, Szlovákiát, stb... pártolna.

[@DEDAFERENC1967]

Check the history of Ukraine. Who create and when this country ?. If you notice it's one young more young then Hungary maybe gonna find why the native hungarian use to have right to they land and are ready to fighting for keep this rights. Sem for this bolsevik propagandist film.

[@AcidProphecy]

"Good job" on connecting Jobbik with Transcarpathia, giving the impression that this was the sole reason for their rise in the last election. Nobody voted for Jobbik for that ridiculous notion to "take back" Transcarpathia (or any revisionist phantasies for that matter), which is just utterly nonsensical. They did some absurd statements like that before the 2010 election (the first time they got into parliament) but since then did a 180 and completely left all this talk behind to draw in left wing voters, mainly disenfranchised voters from the MSZP (Hungarian Socialist Party) who saw in Jobbik a stronger contender to curb the popularity of Fidesz, they were the ones who voted in their favour which explains their growth. Connecting vague, out-of-date information and drawing conclusions for the current state of affairs in Transcarpathia shows irresponsibility on your part.

[@fureszadam3160]

35 like 68 dislike no comment Khm........propaganda

[@catnap387]

Depends who watches the video.

[@nikolatesla708]

@@catnap387 yeah for a German, this is regular, everyday stuff.

[@adriankovacs4169]

Giv back

[@jozsefkiss7853]

Great things from Hungary to Hungary!! I hope the ukraine give much more money to the ukraine land and try to show how reach this place.. oh sorry this is Hungary.... and Hungary gives money... ukraine?? oh no... no money no roads NOTHING.... BECAUESE THIS HUNGARY! This is Hungary and will be forever! blue flags....

[@beelazy3882]

what a fool I read?

[@maryanchabursky9148]

Bruh hungary has worse medicare even with all the billions of eu grants.

[@SokkingBTtulaj]

@@maryanchabursky9148 How? Ukraine's healthcare is even more dogshit. Ukrainians working in east Hungary pay to have Hungarian health insurance, lol.

[@mediaaccess2]

Great job. I'm fighting with Hungarians here - I'm USA born, but the fake news here is real.

[@Andre-ll1yg]

Ukrainians need to gtfo of our land the thieves

[@___E]

Zakarpattya should be given to Slovakia as an autonomous region.

[@catnap387]

And Slovakia would give up its territory with magyars in it! Nice planning!

[@albapatriotproductions1198]

Transcarphatia should, indeed, be given to Slovakia as an autonomous region.

[@ZoltanHetzer]

Enough of this witch talk propaganda. Ukraine should observe minority rights. Rights of ethnic groups living on this land that. Millions of people whose right to use their native language was nulled. And that was just one, as basic as it gets. But after this disastrous adventure for a NATO membership ends hopefully smarter people will be elected.

[@billybonecollector7276]

You will give it up.

[@karolynagy2620]

It starts with phrase: "Honest History". Wondering then why the honesty and the historical are missing in the video....:-) Most porbably because in Transcarpathia, there is nothing Ukrainien, but Ruthenian and Hungarian...and by the way not just honestly and historically.

[@catnap387]

Ukrainian = Ruthenian, Ruthenian = Ukrainian all very simple!!!

[@torokkecske-tv]

​@@catnap387No, the Ruthenians (Hutsuls) are a separate people. The Russians there also identify themselves as Ukrainians, so Ruthenians are not Ukrainian or vice versa.

[@catnap387]

The Hutsuls regard themselves as Ukrainians. RuZZians DO NOT identify themselves as Ukrainians. "Ruthenian" is the Latin word for Rusyny and the term that Ausrto-Hungary gave to the Ukrainians it ruled within its empire. Ukrainians were known as Rusyny in their past history. All still is very simple!!!.@@torokkecske-tv

[@WarriorOfSteppe]

Long live Russia Viva la Putin

[@nikolatesla708]

Putin ❤️

[@catnap387]

@@nikolatesla708 You must be sick!

[@danender5555]

@@nikolatesla708 You are just a pathetic imbecile who steals a famous inventor's name. Smelly Bolshevik fart.

[@nadsv93]

The law on education impacted Romanians as well

[@vladmateescu2488]

"Independent" my ass

[@Razzle_Dazzle-]

It's over Khohol 😂 No one believe your stories anymore

[@etammag2228]

Honest History.. haha good laugh :)

[@soufiane726]

Forgot about it ukraine 😂😂😂😂🤥

[@szjakesan]

I think the problem is that they're trying to aim at russian language but those methods hit other languages too

[@ReinCarnation-yu4je]

it exists a forgotten ancient connection of iran (antique media kingdom) with the eastern-carpathian regions, mainly with the hutsul people who are living there (in romanian suceava, maramures & ukrainian ivano-frankivsk, chirnivci, zakarpatia), they were called in 1100 AD huci tribe (later came an romanian -ul ending). hutsuls have earliest roots that go way back to the median busi tribe who were listed by herodot (lived around 450 BC) as one of the ancient westiranic median tribes the busae. an oldiranic typicalness of some languages/dialects was that not rarely the bh sound shifted to h sound: busi>husi/huzi>huci & some variations of hutsul in romania are huzul or hutan. herodotus the historian wrote about colonists from media called sigunians (shuhani is the main luri dialect & the lurs count as one of the descendants of the antique medes) who settled before herodot's time in transylvania. sigynians wore median clothing, had many median customs and they themselfes said (to herodot) they are descendants of the medes. i can bring some proofs/facts/wordsimilarities/explainings/theorizations to show the direct connection of proto-hutsuls with the medes, concretely median busae tribe & the sigynnian branch who settled in westromania. genetically hutsuls are in first case a mixture of dacians+vlahs+slavs but from their origin (the old substrat) an iranic sigynnian people. about when these median colonists sigynians came to transylvania exist 2 options, they left their homeland and moved via turkey to there around 630 BC (when kyaxares were made for 28 years to a vassal in his own kingdom) or 540 BC (when the median kingdom collapsed and persians took over). the historian strabo (63BC-23AD) wrote about siginians who lived in the southwestern caspia sea/western elborz-mountains region (by the way elborz and east-carparthian areas look in some places similar) like gilan, mazandaran, ardabil, zanjan, qazwin, these siginians were the ones who stayed in media and didn't leave like herodot's sigynnes. strabo said about these ones that in general they practise persians' customs and he mentioned like herodot their small horses race which were shaggy long haired flat-nosed/short-snooted ponies that pulled a chariot/cart in a four-horse-team, maybe that small horse race is related to the eastcarpathian hutul-horses/ponies (as a newer mixed breeding that originated from the sigynnian horses). i go back to the topic with proofs that the hutsuls were in fact of iranic median sigynian origin, the ethnicon itself (besides the most possible explaining that it comes from the median busi tribe name & a s to ts dialectical sound-shift existed sometimes in ukraine too) has also another 4 theories of it's meaning (until today nobody could proof what the ethnonym hucul really means), the 4 other theories what it means are all median cognates: 1. it comes from the gilaki word for "mountain"="quh", that could lead to guh+ul(noun ending) so the huculian ethnonym would mean "people from the mountains". 2. gilaki word "houz" for "lake" would mean hutsuls are "people who live by the lake" 3. northern garmsiri word "guch"="ram/ibex/capricorn/battering-ram/mountain-goat" would mean ghuculs are "people associated with rams/got something to do with rams" 4. gilaki word "ghut" for "immersion" would mean "(water)divers/aquanauts". herodot speculated what the name sigynni could mean from what he heared or knew, he used to associate the name with the meaning "spear" and on the other hand with "traders/hucksters". the proto-hutsul ethnos was surely formed in the maramures region and some bordering north-transilvania areas/northwest-romania where the sigynians sometime between 100-500 AD mixed with the surrounding dacian population & vlahian shepherds, a bit later came the slavic component(tiverians & whitecroats) into their ethnogenesis mainly in the ukraine-romanian bordering regions since 600 AD. sigunnians had 2000 years ago surely 2 median identities: the word siguni has to be the same as shuhani, what means one of the main dialects of lur people aka western-luri language, so it showed their median branch language-identity, but the other identity was the tribe-identity, the word that would later become the ethnicon hucul what means they had seen themselfes as belonging to the husi/huzi/huci tribe what is a dialectical changing of the word busi, their busae tribe identity. also i think that the meaning "sigynni" can all in all be understood as "people who are originally from a stony mountainous area or region" cuz if you take a talishi etymology for that then "sygh" is "stone" (or the dezfuli word for "stone"="seg") or if you take the kurdish etymology then "chiya/shah" is "mountain". talishi plural-suffix -un speaks also for a talishi alike dialect that formed the word "sigunni"(how appolonios wrote the ethnonym). in iran are mostly the galeshi people but also kurds or qashqais known for beeing pastoral-seminomadic like hutsuls are it often too. galeshi people could ethnically fit as descendants in first case of strabo's siginians if not the lurs (by the way the lurish traditional headscarf style is very similar to the hutsulian one) if sigynnian really stands for "mountain-man"(like galeshis who are an ethnicity whose homeland are the whole alborz mountains & they speak around 4 dialects who belong to both gilaki & mazandarani languages) and not for "person from the susanian region"(where in first case live the lurs that means the land shushan that was mentioned in the bible), but the name sigynni could speak rather for a proto-kurdish dialect origin if it comes from the word mountain=chiya/shah (in the case that sigynni is not the same as shuhani from the western luri territory or in other words if it doesn't mean proto-luri people or the western-part of them). herodot's sigynnians really could be people who mixed on the way with other different west-migrating iranians (rather from mountainous areas). the word for an "inhabitant of the mountains" in hutsulian itself is "sus", maybe the etymology of that word (in the case if it's not symbioticly identical with kurdish "shax"="mountain"/"qysh"="rock") and also of the name sigynn and even hutsul really goes back to the name of the ancient metropolis susa (today shush) from the copper-age and the region susiana where that city was included (through mixing the meaning? because susa's etymology is unknown but the region has actually enough mountainous areas too & it is strongly assumed that around 500 BC in susiana were spoken both languages median and elamitic/hatamitic because a textual sources study shows that in the neoassyrian period not only media but also further to the west like elamitic areas had a population with iranian-speakers often as majority and most sources say the whole susiana was 2600 years ago part of the median kingdom but some sources say only the northern/eastern susiana areas or that susiana was after the elamitic reign only part of assyrian and babylonian kingdoms idk wich ones are true) and used were also the names shushun, shushan & sugan, today susiana is the province xuzestan and was called already by persians from achaemenidic times hujiya & huziya, susi(ana)/xuze(stan) remind of the word sus(=mountain-inhabitant=hutsul?) and the ethnonym hutsul that is also often spelled husul(husanesc) & huzul(huzulei) is without the newer romanian ending huts/huz/hus but in that region itself is known a doubtable folk etymology for the word "xuzi" explained as "sugar manufacturer" or "sugar cane cultivator", so far one can just only speculate whether sigynnes & hutsuls have something to do with susiana or not because the shuhan district lies not in the historical susiana region but in ilam (xuzistan's northern neighbour province) and the luri shuhani dialect is also mainly spoken in ilam and not in xuzistan, it's more realistic that shuhan(i) is directly connected with sigynn(i) while susiana was surely lesser populated with medes....................

[@XCashfull]

Dont hate the regular ppl pls

[@444MissScarlette]

I believe this land belonged to Rusyns (Ruthenia), and it was eastern Slavs who lived there and became Rusyns.

[@salamonisti]

Honest…😂😂😂

[@andriystehnovych810]

За ради справедливості ви не згадали, що на Закарпатті у 1991 році проголосували не лише за вихід з СРСР але і 75% Закарпаття проголосували за автономію в складі України.

[@Михаил-о2ъ9ы]

в Україні проживають різні етноси. але вона завжди має залишатися з українцями. ми не хочемо ні Путіна, ні Орбана.

[@JohnDoe-kv2ki]

American hegemon is dying without it states such as Ukraine or Kosovo wont last long. and as of Zakarpatia region it was taken away form Hungary by Stalin in 1944 and given to Soviet Ukraine which was part of Soviet Russia at that time.

[@botowner8623]

this us a much much less important issue than Donbass or Crimea

[@matefulop5066]

yeah, now sending young hungarians from zakarpattya to die for the marvellous Ukraine, because of what? for not being able to use their language and violating their human right and fucking them over once again? ukraine is the same shit as russia, both human rights oppressors...... russia just happens to have more weapons..

[@GigiDuruDuru]

This is a very hot patato to handle, but fortunately, international treaties settle for this matter three times, and all parts involved signed to obey it . Once in 1921 and again in 1947 and again in 1991, those are the internationally recognized borders, and no border disputes should be settled by violence. Everyone in Europe at one point in history was on the wrong side of the border, specially Hungary. The only insane person to violate those International Treaties sits in the Kremlin and his main cheerleader sits in Budapest. World of advice for revisionist adventurers, don't start wars and lose them , the nonstop whining and sobbing after for the historical injustice is hilarious and lame.

[@samuelmatys7294]

When you lose a war you lose land you sign a treaty simple as that

[@nikolatesla708]

Then what? Is this a reason for the American and the Neonazi gov't of Germany to get involved?

[@matefulop5066]

keep that in mind, it might age not well.

[@SokkingBTtulaj]

We didn't lose transcarpathia during trianon, we lost it in 1991 when the soviet communists pulled the "let's make a country called Ukraine" out of their arse. Anyway, can't wait until you lose territory in the current war and this line YOU typed out will validate Russian claims. As the previos comment hinted: Your words might age like milk

[@danender5555]

@@nikolatesla708 Using a name of famous inventor of all time does not make you any better. Bolshevik rants won't help it either.

[@ReinCarnation-yu4je]

the following words are typical hutsulian & have ties to westiranic median modern descendants' languages: an interessting exclusive huculian word (that is not to be found in ukrainian language) with etymological ties to neo-median(=luri/gilaki/balochi/kurdi/behdinani/laki/garmsiri/sohi/zazaki/mazandarani/sivandi/semnani/talishi/tonekaboni/kiliti/tati/rudbari/kaviri/raji/dezfuli/shahmirzadi/shabaki) cause it sounds related to these 2 gilaki words by meaning "hooz"(lake/pond) & "ghut"(immersion/diving) is the huculian word "ghuk" and means "waterfall", further it's also connected with the taleshi verb "hynj-/hänj-" what means "to drink", "ghuk" is also related to the verb of south-tati kiaraji dialect & soi/sohi language "hönj-" meaning "to water/to sprinkle". another huculian word is "kutüga"(also "kotüga") and means "dog" while in the luri language "katu" & in kurdish "kuti" and "kuchik" is "dog", these words are really close to each other. a huculian word (not in ukrainian language again) for "farm-animals/domestic-animals/livestock-animals" is "marga" what you can compare to the luri word "morg" for "chicken" and galeshi word "märg" for "hen" what surely is related together, "marga" might be also related to the sorani-kurdish "manga"="cow" because also in the tati language the word for "cow" is "maragou" (but that word could have in a symbiotic way the part -gou as the meaning cow), in mazandarani "magu" means "cow" and "marshan" means "young cow", hutsulian "marga"(sometimes is also used the variation "marzhina") belongs definitely to median dialects from origin because only indo-iranic languages have that word "morg" and in no other indoeuropean languages you can find it. then of course the romanian and hutsulian word "branza" & "bryndza" (in the 14th century also as a variation with a ch sound brancha) is translated as "cheese", also often as "cream-cheese", it's a word from the romanian and southwest-ukraine bordering carpathians & many romanians, hutsuls and ukrainians try to find the origins of that word, i searched for the translations of the word cheese in the most languages and no language has a similar word for cheese like branza, so it sure don't came from slavic or romance languages, the only language i found that has similarities with that word is the westiranic balochi word "ponch" for "curd/cream-cheese/cancoillotte/processed cheese/pot-cheese/junket-cheese/strained yogurt-cheese/quarg/cooking-cheese/farmer-cheese/runny cheese", so if you look that in the 14th century the word branza/brynza(commonly variation bronza) had also a ch sound variation, then broncha would be really close to the balochi ponch and has the same meaning, but also important is that it is connected to an other hutsulian word, to "banosh", a traditional dish of hutsul cuisine, a "porridge/gruel cooked in sour cream"(pork and cheese are mostly also added), both banosh/banush & branza/brynza/bryndzya are originally from the carpathian hutsul region and other neighbouring regions or countries adopted that food, but etymologically both words are westiranic median proto-balochi closest related in their origin, "banush" is a creamy porridge (mostly prepared from cornmeal) and etymologically identical to balochi "ponch"="cream curd cheese/processed cream-cheese/cooked cheese/soft processed cheese" cuz i principially see the etymology of ponch & branza & banosh as connected with the meaning cream,mash,curd,yoghurt,porridge,puree,creamcheese,pesto,paste,gruel,ect. as their roots and not with the meaning real cheese or directly corn groats, but the possibility that "banush" originated from another western-iranic word of mazandaranian kojuri dialect "bänj"="rice" can't be excluded too. the second hutsulian word for "cheese" is "budz", that word is also related to balochi "ponch"="processed curd cheese", budz & brynza are both of a cheesetype that is rather something between mozzarella and feta-cheese and cottage-cheese while the balochi ponch i think is more like the greek labneh creamcheese. when hutsuls are in their final phase of manufacturing cheese they put saltwater on it and that "saltwater" is called "sorovicya"(-ovicya is a slavic female noun-ending that means it is made of sor-), the luri word "sur" for "salty" and kurmanji-kurdish "shor" for "salty" are very close to that hutsulian word-root, these westiranic words "sur"/"shor" and hutsulian "sor-" are identical and of the same median origin (it's also often called in the ukrainian manner "syrovicya" then it's more compareable with the natanz region's dialectical word "shir"="salty"), sigynnians influenced also the romanian language because the romanian word for "salt" is "sare" (while in latin "salis" is "salt"). an ukrainian verb that came at least 1000 years ago from southwest-ukraine/north-romania into the language is "shanuvati"(-vati=verb-ending)="to be a fan/admirer/liker/follower/honourer/lover/appreciator of someone" and has roots in iran, it's identical to persian "jan"="dear/liked/adored/favoured one" & "soul" but in older persian 2000 years ago it sounded like "hyan", the kurdish equivalent is "chan" and "chänik", in ukrainian dictionary "shana" is translated as "the feeling of being esteemed", also the romanian word "chinsti"="to honour/esteem/appreciate/adore/value/respect" proofs that the original word (of shanuvati/shana & chinsti) was from east-carpathians/north-romania because you can see that -sti is a word-ending and that word is surely not of a romance language origin and also fit well together chinsti with kurdish chänik, oldpersian hyan & ukrainian shana, the germany/poland-theory about that word is not right, on the other hand has the balochi word "shan"="glory" an obvious relation with "shana" & "chinsti" too (beeing glorified & beeing esteemed is nearly synonymous) and that word has a possible relation to balochi "jwan"="good". in western-ukraine is sometimes used the dialectical word "chugha"="ungrown mountain", it's related either to gilaki "quh"="mountain" or talishi "sygh"="stone" (taleshi and gilaki are neighbour-languages from northwestern iran) or kudish "chiya/shah"="mountain" or kurdish "qyj/qysh"="rock", to notice is that the bashkardi word for "stone"="sah" sounds similar to the kurdish word for "mountain"="shah", but that talishi word "sygh" is of the same origin and close in meaning related to another word, to hutsulian "chughilo"(-ilo is an noun-ending with adjective character)="notch or indentation in a stone" and "flowstone", both ("sygh" & "chugh-") have actually the meaning "stone", they are similar so hutsulian "chughilo" is of median talishi-alike (atropatena-media) dialect origin, but also of proto-kurdish origin because there's a kurdish word "qax"="indentation in a stone or rock", it is even much closer in the meaning to "chughilo" than the talishi word. a typical ukrainian word what means untypical for the other slavic languages (really possibly borrowed by ukrainians from the carpathian regions where hutsuls live) is the word "gharniy"="great/super/terrific/prodigious/bodacious/grandiose" which can be compared to the garmsirian bashkardi word "gohrt"="big" or kurdish "gaura"="big" or zazaki "giran"="great", but better would be to see in first case the balochi word "shar"="good"(sometimes also "beautiful") as of the same origin/roots/meaning with the ukrainian "gharniy"="good/great/fine/nice/excellent/wonderful/brilliant/super/fantastic/marvelous/magnificent/awesome/swell/dandy/bodacious/terrific/prodigious/outstanding/grandiose/splendid/admireable/amazing/gorgeous/stunning/beautiful", most close related to the ukrainian "gharniy/gharno/gharna"(-niy/-no/-na is an adjective ending)="good" is mazandarani "xar"="good/fine", kurdish "haure" for "friend" is surely also connected with that word-root, in hutsulian you can say "gharen"="good (in the scence of helpful/worthful/useful/needable)" and it's origin goes back together with balochi "shar"="good" & kurdish "gaura"="big" to elamitic "rshara"="great"......................

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that bashkardi-garmsirian word "gohrt" fits really good to another typical ukrainian word "gurt"="group", a group is big so synonymous to the meaning big/large, in kashan county (part of isfahan province in central-iran) is used the local word "gurd" for "big", the zazaki equivalent is "gyrd" & the mazandarani one "gat" & the raji one "gord", the zazaki word for "group/drove" is "garan" and tajiki for "group/team" is "gurökh", by the way that word "gurt" i really think has etymological ties to the ethnonym "kurd" cuz there are 2 versions explaining the ethnonym of the kurds either with the meaning collected group/extensive group of related tribes/people-group or a more chauvinistic meaning like the big ones/huge and strong people=xurt (of course the most common theories about kurds' ethnonym is that it came from an adopted word from iraq "kard" meaning "nomad" used by arabs and persians for kurds or it came from the name of a mountain range in southeast-turkey "gudi/gurdi/giordi"), but there is also kurdish "gurz" & "xurdjik" for "bundle/sheaf/bunch/bale/batch/fardel/bavin/bing/wad/faggot/posy/bouquet/cluster/bindle/shiralee/sheave/fascicle/pack/stack/stock/tuft" what plays also a role in the etymology or meaning of ukrainian "gurt" & another kurdish word "girde"="collected/composite/compounded" or "giredai"="bound/tied/bonded/linked/ligated/trussed/attached/twined/annexed/hitched/corded/knotted/combined/enlaced/connected/fixed/enmeshed/clasped/catenated" too, probably together with two other kurdish words "gerdene"="collar" & "gerdani"="jewelry-chain/collier"(these 2 are rather not in the direct scence connected with the meaning of gurt). the hutsulian and ukrainian word/equivalent "gerdan" itself with nearly the same meaning "traditional decorative loombead-collar"(as part of the costume) sounds the same in persian "gerdan" but in persian the meaning is "neck" like in turkish and crimea-tataric (these laguages adopted that word from persian) who are assumed by many etymologists to have brought that word to west-ukraine (some also say it came from hungary to ukraine) but possible is that sigynnians already brought that word with the same meaning like in kurdish (gerdene & gerdani) to the carpathians long time before that. there's another word that is only typical for ukraine "khata"="house" what shares the same origin/meaning as the yazdi-behdinani word "khäda/khda"="house" and sorani-kurdish "ghat"="house". the hutsulian word "daraba"="raft/float/catamaran/bobber" is generally of westiranic origin (maybe also with some influence or a bit fusion of slavic in that word), it seems that "daraba" is identical to oldpersian "daraya"="sea/river" and the second meaning of "daraya" in oldpersian was "holder", it's possible that from a mix of slavic "korab"(or romanian "corabie")="ship" + achaemenidic westiranic "daraya"="sea/river"(the second definition "holder" could really be also included as a factor in the scence "something that holds one on the water") resulted "daraba" (for example in german is the word for river nearly the same as for float/raft too), in balochi "daryab" means "perennial river", there is a similar word in kurdish "derav" for "water-channel/watercourse/water-ditch", furthermore could played a relevant role for daraba's etymological process kurdish "därabe"="podestal/podium/stairtop/landing/landing-platform/landing-place/dais/base/socle/platform/stage/stand/resting-place/stage-riser/plinth/enclosure/palisade/stockade/paling/railing/fence/louver/grating/grid/lattice/grille/trellis/graticule/espalier/fender/handrail/parapet/tafferel/banister/rail/breastwork/barrier/blockage/cove", on the other hand is in first case "daraba" most likely a combination of 2 westiranic words (like tajiki or persian) "daro"+"aba" and would be understood as the "enter/input/influx/addition/entrance/lead-in/ushering/insertion/interpolation/inlet/access/ingress/way-in/passage/pass/transition/transit/transference/committal/admission/admittance/accession/bringing-in/reaching/entry (for or to) the water", but more possible is the combination of kurdish "dar"="wood/timber/lumber" + "ab"="water"(also romanian "apa"="water" is here possible because it's surely an iranic sigynnian word that came into the proto-romanian language), that would be resulted in "water-wood/water-timber" (in the scence of a water-board), one last possibility is behdinani "dyr"+"aw", what you can understand as "something for being distant in the water" or "something that gets far via the water". the ukrainian and hutsulian "kulish"="thick soup/pottage/millet porridge with meat,mushrooms,tomatoes"(in the carpathian version the porridge is done sometimes from maize) is said to be mostpossibly of hungarian "köles" origin but alternatively it can be of westiranic median origin when you compare it with northern kurdish "kelink"="cooking/boiling/simmering/seething"/"keli"="scalded/cooked/fumed/heated", that kulish/kulesha/kulisha/köles is of median proto-kurdish dialect origin can proof the word-meaning if you compare it with some other indoeuropean languages' meaning of the words millet & grits and related words to millet like germanic hirse(=millet), gries(=semolina) & grütze(=grits) or slavic grechka(=buckwheat), these words have originally the meaning "made warm/heated" so very close to kurdish "keli" by meaning, but etymologically are kulish and köles very close to "keli" or "kelink" or to the sorani-kurdish verb "kolin"="to boil", that dish has to be originally from southwest-ukraine/northwest-romania (most likely transcarpatia) so many hungarians have lived in the western border-near zone there in some times, the balochi word for "wheat" is "galla" and seems to be related to hutsulian "kulesha/kulish" too, wheat are grains from which can be made wheat-grits/wheat-porridge/wheat-gruel so it's similar to kulish.......................

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another hutsulian word is "dyadühna"(-na is an adjective ending but it's an noun)="fever", there's a good possibility that it's of westiranic median origin because it could be identical to balochi "thäf"="fever" or kurdish "tehn"="temperature/warmness" or on the other side it could be related to kurdish "derd"="illness/disease/affliction/dejection/agony/suffering" (if you see -ühna as a word-ending), kurdish "derd" is maybe also related to hutsulian "didko"="devil/satan", -ko is in ukraine an adjective ending in the scence of -alike and a male-name ending so it could fit to a personification. the ukrainian and hutsulian word "gudzik"="button" came really sure from median leki and zazaki alike dialects, you can compare "gudzik" with zazaki "gozage"="button" & leki "gijik"="button". the second meaning of "gudzik" or "gudz" in hutsulian and ukrainian is "knot", it's close connected with kurdish "gurz/xurjik"="sheaf/bundle" & "giredai"="bound/tied" (and they have likely the elamitic verb "harak-"="to press" as their origin and they could also be related to elamitic "sarra-"="to assemble") that means with the meaning "something that is tied up tightly" but the r disapeared in hutsulian "gudz(ik)" (probably like for example the r from kurdish "derd" disapeared in the hutsulian "dãdühna"). the hutsulian word "galica" or "galicya" for "snake/serpent" and "gala" when it's a "viper/asp/adder" could be identical with the persian meaning and etymology "lair/den/animal's construction or burrow/fox's earth/hidey-hole/bolthole/safehaven/cocooning/loophole/shelter/covering/coating/sediment/seepage/ooze/silt/alluvial sand/quicksand/driftsand/fluidized sand/flowing ground/mud/squidge/brickearth/clay/sludge/slurry/slop/pulpy mass/barbotine/engobe/muck/loam/gunk/pise/quarry/argil/mushy dirt/soggy soil/alluvium/suspension-load/grime/slush/slime/pug/gunge/gloop/sloshy mess/silting/casting-slip/slipperiness/messy semifluid matter" and is called "gel" in persian, that word has a characteristical connection to hutsulian "galica" because a snake has a behaviour/comportment/nature/character/attributes/properties/features/peculiarities/appearence/look that fits to persian "gel" like for example in the scence of behavior 'sliding/gliding/burrowing/crawling/wriggling/slipping/seeping into or under something like sand or soft earth (like dug soil) or a hole or a pile (of leaves)', also are many snake-kinds (like pythons,gaboon-vipers,copperheads,green-anacondas,some boas,some cobras,etc.) known for 'having a coloured camouflage' (some are even known for changing their colour between day and night), a snake is 'often in a hideout or camouflaged'(delitescence) so another word the kurdish "hilan"="hidden/preserved" have to be also related to it, or in the scence of appearence/look & palpation/tactuality but also style of the motion/agility/movement 'slick/slippery/smooth/glibbery/squidgy/supple/sleek/sludgy/squishy/slippy/slithery/pliant/pliable/malleable/gungy/smeary', a snake is (or moves) as 'flexible as one can knead muddy clay', so -ica in "galica" is a later slavic female noun-ending that was combined with "gal-" what is related (via sigynnian language intermixing in the east-carpathians) to persian "gel" and kurdish "hilan" (verb "hilanin"="to hide oneself from someone") and also to zazaki "chale"="pit/burrowed or digged hole/groundhole/hollow/cavern/cavity/fosse/rift/trench/shaft/duct/slot/underground mineshaft/burrow/gully/excavation space/dig/recess/foxhole/sewer/ditch/dugout-shelter/funk-hole/pothole/delve/lacuna/grave/graben/sump/tailrace", i see here similarities with the kurdish verb for "to burrow/dig/grub/excavate/trench/mine/carve out/delve/sink/scoop/gouge/rift"="kolin" & kurdish "qälish"="cleavage/splitting" & kurdish "xali"="hollow/cupped/vacant/concave" & kurdish "kulek"="grave", further relevant could be here for seeing better the whole spectrum the kurdish "qul"="hole" and kurdish "gol"="heap/pile/stack/accumulation/deck/spoil/overburden/load/mass/mound/soil-embankment/deposit/detritus/rubble/landfill/tip/midden/termitarium/molehill/dumped material/scrapheap/manure-hill/compost-mound/discharged bulk material/bulk commodity/bulk-items/staple-goods", also important to mention is kurdish "qalik" for "shuck/husk/pod/case/legume/capsule/sleeve/peel/shell/rind/carapace/cortex/peeling/periderm/furfur/scab/crust/bark" and that seems to share a close related meaning and etymology with the persian word "gheld"="shell/case/cover/husk/peel/dust-jacket/wrapping/pod/casing/packaging/cocoon/outerlayer/cover-sleeve/sheet/shielding/envelope/protective film/peelable coating/sheath/key-pouch/encasement/jacket-flap/mailer/courier mailing bag/shipping cover/file/document-protector/binder/sachet/gusset-bag/wrapper/giftpaper/tarpaulin/shrinkwrap/poly-liner/pack-pod/clamshell/fomentation-pack/wrap-compress/turn up cuff/insulating protecting material" or persian "gelaf"="etui/carry-case/glasses-case/passport-wallet/purse/travel-pouch/jewelry-casket/dopp-kit/pencil-box/tabatiere/needle-tin/cycling-softcase/toiletry-clutch", appropriate to it is also "veil"="xäli" in kurdish, noteworthy could be persian "galiz"="viscid/viscous/sizy/ropy/syrupy/molassesy/tight/dense/hampered/bulky/rubbery/gooey/poor-flowing/slow-flowing/sticky/tenacious/stodgy/pappy/chunky" what is probably close related to persian "helt"="mucus/sputum/phlegm/slime/mucilage/goo/guck/glutinous viscid mass", persian-speakers in afghanistan use the word "xelm" for "snot/gob/loogie/expectoration/mucosity/gobbed stuff/mucopus/rheum/purulence/excreted pus/ulcerousness/mucopurulent discharge/sanies/pimple/hickey/bogey/slimy booger/nasal secretion/phlegm/mucus/snuffle/lump of sputum/lung-cookie/sticky mass", that is connected with the kurdish word "zäliq"="glueing/adhesion/glutinousness/tackiness/adherency/stickiness/splicing/pasting/adhesive bonding", one can mention that a snake moves forward in it's habitat like it's kinda glued on the surface and on the tree too without falling down somehow in the scence that 'it looks like if it's always adherenced or sticked to the surface', furthermore has a snake similarities in the appearance with a "belt/strap/strop/tether/vang/shoelace/gun-sling/lifting-sling/mountaineering-cord/galoon/festoon/ribbon/ligation/lanyard/tie/tapeline/strip/streamer/garland/tape/vinculum/ligature/bond/band/bandage/brace/warp/wristlet/circlet/chain"="qulanch/qol/jol" in kurdish or a "streak/hank/strand/skein/stripe/line/shank/leg/extremity/arm/limb/bough/tail/pigtail/hair-lock/tress/twirl/curl/plait/braid/coil"="guli" in kurdish, interessting here are 3 things that can be compared, that kurdish "qol" can be translated as "(paper)streamer" what in switzerish literally means "paper-snake"="papier-schlange" (or in german "decoration-streamer" literally means "air-snakes"="luftschlangen) & kurdish "qulanch" or "qol" can be translated as "sling" what in german is "schlinge" and etymologically the most close to "schlange" what is again a "snake" (etymologically related to it is also russian "shlanga"="hosepipe") & french/english "queue" has many meanings like "tail" or "stick" or "stalk" or "pigtail" or "waiting-queue/waiting-line" that shows the synonymousness also to the meaning snake because in german "schlangestehen/warteschlange/menschenschlange" means "waiting-queue" and is literally translated as "snake-standing/waiting-snake/human-snake", so there are 8 options of which meaning is directly related to hutsulian "galica/galicya" and that is either "shell/casing/covering/etc."(the camouflage) or "hole/grave(could stand also for the unexpected deadliness of a poisonous strangling snake)/hiding/etc."(the hideout) or "pliable clay/sticky ooze/viscous gloppy substance/etc."(the attributed features) or "dug land/dirt or loam heap/pile/etc."(the habitat) or "slimy expectoration/sputum/mucousity/etc."(the snake-venom) or "ribbon/belt/line/etc."(the look-similarity) or "strand/sling/chain/etc."(the snake-strangulation) or "scab/furfur/bark/etc."(the skin-similarity), but there is also a word from the neshalji dialect in the raji language "qalbeja"="lizard" that could have something to do with hutsulian "galicya", snakes plus lizards added up are squamates (the animal-order). the second meaning of "galica/galicya" (another variation can be "galüga") in hutsulian language is "parasite" and "bad harmful worthless one" what has the same origin and meaning as kurdish "zilo"="parasite" and that really might be a close related word to kurdish "xiler"="dirt/filth/mess/smut/grunge/feculence/grime/pollutant/muckiness/smudginess/drek/ordure/smutch/sully/ash-dust/rubble/scuzz/squalor/foulness/trashiness". the third meaning of "galicya"(also known as "gaľman" or "glota" but in ukranian "yurba") in hutsulian and lemkian language is "crowd/multitude/throng" and is related to kurdish "gol"="accumulation/pile/stack/mass/overburden/bulk/load" or is even closer related to shahmirzadi "xale"="many" but has also a lot in common with balochi "xalgh"="people".......................

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some have the factless/unlogical opinion about the hutsulian word (that already is integrated into the ukrainian language) "legin'"="youngling/teenager/subadult/adolescent/youth/younker/stripling/youngster/pubescent/springchicken/manboy/juvenile/fledgling/minor/teenybopper/teen-boy/bachelor/greenhorn/boy/youthful young male" that it comes from the word "legionnaire" but it comes without a doubt from a proto-zazaki or zazaki-alike ancient dialect from media and is identical with the zazaki word "layik/lajek"="young buck/young adolescent/young fella/knave/sonny/boyo/boy/whippersnapper/callow-youth/junior/youngster" (-in' & -ik/-ek are just male noun-endings), i think the romanian word "flacau(sh)"="fellow/boy/young man/callant/youth/bachelor/youngster/gossoon/swain/teen/adolescent/young buck/sirrah/buster/sonny/schoolboy" is also of the same sigynnian origin or influence (if you take away the f at the word-beginning it would be obvious), also the hungarian equivalent "legeny"="young man/stripling" has a origin with sigynnian background (most likely from transcarpatia or far northwestern romania where hungarians lived too). "gun-barrel" is a new word/meaning but it's somehow surprising that in kurdish and hutsulian it doesn't sounds so different, in hutsulian "lüfa" and in kurdish "lüle", that point what is the gun's opening/exit (called gun-muzzle or gun-point) is in the second scence also understood as "lüfa" and in kurdish "point" means "lutke" (sometimes also translated as "end-point" or "ending part") so sounds halfway similar too, "lüfa" is also good compareable with zazaki "lytene"="to suck" as example like sucking a liquid through a drinking-tube or sucking for air under water through a snorkel-tube, "lüle" & "lüfa" had originally the meaning "tube/pipe" like in kurdish it's until today so, that's what's interessting for the next word, ukrainian and hutsulian "lüľka" or "lüla" what means "tobacco-pipe", "lüla/lülka" can be seen obviously as of the same origin as the kurdish "lüle", but it's possible that the word came to ukraine not through the sigynnian but through the turkish language that has that adopted word from the persian language but interessting is anyway that "lüfa" and "lüla" differ only in one letter and have both the main-meaning "pipe/tube", the armenian music instrument "blul" is the same as kurdish "bilul", both mean "flute", my opinion is that the word-stem of these words is westiranic "lul-" (like of the word "lüle"="pipe/tube/gun-barrel") and not "bil-", so another similar kurdish word "bilur"(there are also other variations like "blur" & "balur") a traditional pastoral-seminomadic kurdish "shepherd-flute/caval-flute/syrinx-flute" shows a kurdish or generally iranic l to r sound-shifting, then there is the romanian word "fluier/fluer/fluir/fluiera"="pipe/flute/whistle" what really have to be identical to kurdish "bilur/beluer/blur/balur" (the romanian sound f is here in kurdish the sound b), so it seems that the romanian word has also sigynnian influence or roots and accordingly the hutsul mountain pipe "floєra"(also "fluyara" and "floyara") too (most etymologists say that "floera" & "fluer" is of unknown origin). the hutsulian word for "lord/master/boss/landowner/householder/family-head/man in charge/manager/sovereign/potentate" is "gazda" and has it's origin most likely in the elamitic word "kat"="throne" while the elamitic word for "lord/master"="katri" has a -ri suffix that has the meaning "someone who belongs to it", but it came surely via western-iranic into hutsulian because you can compare well "gazda" with dari (afghani-persian) "khaja"="master/honorific title" or with the kurmanji-kurdish words "hosta/hoste"="master/authority/adept/professional/gifted man/hotshot/champion/chief" and "häja"="lord/his nibs/bigwig/man of status/monsieur/sir/high-up/swell/top brass person/boss/vip/quality-man/meritoriously honored eminent man" and "hwedi/hweyi"="owner/proprietor/possessor/titlebearer/holder/originator/occupant/occupier/household-head/man of the house/goodman/homeowner/landlord/manorial-lord/patriarch/paterfamilias" and "säyda"="master/big player/wise scholar", the hungarian word "gazda"="owner/landholder/laird/seigneur/overlord/potentate" is of the same median/sigynnian origin, noteworthy is the zoroastrian term "yazata" which is understand in a more general sense in zoroastrism as "worthy of worship or veneration" and the yazatas collectively are seen as the "good powers", the word "yazata" is avestian and that means many centuries older than median and oldpersian so since 1000 BC avestian "yazata" and elamitic "kat" could form in a symbiotical etymological process newer words or meanings/understandings in languages and dialects of iran of the following time/centuries so it's possible that both "yazata" and "kat" are related to hutsulian and hungarian "gazda". the hutsulian "zhebrak"="beggar" is of the same origin as the kurdish "devrash"="beggar". hutsulian "zheb"="pocket" is the same as kurdish "jev"="pocket", it was probably combined with another kurdish word "räsh"="dark/black/dusky/murk/sombre/caliginous/swart/gloomy/tenebrous" and they together resulted into the meaning "beggar"(="jevräsh"=hypothetical proto-word of zhebrak & devrash) either in the scence of "dark/miserable/lousy/negative/bad/poor/unfortunate/dreary/woeful/wretched/lamentable/deplorable/abortive/futile/deficitic pocket" or "dark/empty/devoid/void/unfilled/contentless/unutilized/idle/vacant/unsubstantial/clear/blank in the pocket", both would mean something like "one who has nothing in his pockets (symbolically no money and no possession at all)". the traditional hutsulian "upper-garment/garb/cardigan/jacket" is called "gunya" and seems to be related to zazaki "qynje/qynj"="clothing/raiment/apparel/robe". the ukrainian and hutsulian word "vatra"="campfire/bonfire" exists also in the serbian language but it's still possible that it's of median sigynnian origin (via banat region or western-transylvania where a lot of serbs live?) because that word is close related to gorani/hewrami "atar"="fire" (gorani is seen by many as part of central-kurdish dialects and the central-kurdish equivalent is "ater" & by others as closer to southern-zazaki/dimli where "adyr/adär" is "fire") and to the reconstructed old median word "*atr-/*athr-"="fire" (old armenian borrowed that word from median in form of 4 words that begin with "atra-"). hutsulian or generic transcarpathian "cundra"(or "tsundrya")="rag/tatter/frazzle/junk-clobber/dud stuff/shreddy or torn fabric" is identical with medieval persian "žanda"="worn-out/shabby/threadbare/shoddy/frayed/obsolete/run-down/tatty/ratty/seedy/raggy" or with another persian alternative form "shänder" with the same meaning. the last word is hutsulian "bardka" for "axe" while in the "modern-zoroastrian" behdinani/gabri language (spoken by the behdinan people in yazdi dialect) "barda" is translated as "spade"(including spade-chisel?), they are surely related words from media kingdom originally because of the similarities in the appearance of a spade with a hutsul-axe, a parallel example to it seems to exist and that is kurdish "ber"="spade/trowel" compared to kurdish "biwr"="axe" or kurdish "peraw"="pickaxe", the romanian (mainly in bukovina region used) word "baltag"="axe/hatchet" compared with kurdish "bel"="shovel/spade" is maybe another such parallel example (in the case when baltag is not a turkish borrowing but anyway it wouldn't be a word of real turkic/proto-altaic origin but a loanword that came into turkic from sakian or sogdian or wusunian but that -ag ending speaks for a typicalness of the balochi language that has often that dispensable additional word-ending).

[@Batmax192]

That's not even a minor conflict in our Milky Way Galaxy.... Please seat at the round table and make some agreement... Opresing minorieties is however something what we try to avoid in other solar systems, but we also don't like too many border changes... I see from a distance that Ukraine in past has been home and in many cases still is - to many nacionalities - Jews, Poles, Czechs, Crimeans, Moldovans, Romanians... and some Aliens also... So - I don't care about the others, but if You won't respect Hungarians we will put war on You...!!! GReetings from TS 604 Tri Star Solar-Jupiter System...

[@catnap387]

Such imperialist comments from Romanian, Hungarian, Polish viewers here. New nations are formulated throughout history - Ireland, Saudi Arabia. Pakistan, Bangladesh and others in 20th century. The US in 18th century. What about Australia, New Zealand, Canada and UKRAINE! The Ukrainian people finally began to govern lands they inhabited for centuries.

[@_ndr_s]

In glad you compare “ukraine” to bangladesh and saudi arabia. Nice one

[@catnap387]

@@_ndr_s Australia, New Zealand

[@catnap387]

Slovakia, Finland, Latvia, Germany and Italy in the 19th century. Your sarcastic reply above shows your lack of respect to some countries. Shame on you Andras Marik!

[@_ndr_s]

@@catnap387 i have no respect towards a 3rd world nazi country who stuck in the bronze age and oppressing its ethnic minorities who were there long before ukraine was created. Shame on you for supporting a bully

[@catnap387]

@@_ndr_s Wasn't Hungary a nazi supporting country? Not that Orban has a good reputation in the West either nor does he have much respect for a sovereign nation's laws. There is no persecution of Hungarians or Rusyns just some Hungarians looking for ways to incorporate Ukrainian lands into Hungary.

[@atl1981]

good luck Ukraine..haha

[@LewisJohnsonIII]

One of my Hungarian friends got mad at me for supporting Ukraine. Saying Ukraine bullies them. Apparently this region was only lost to Ukraine over time due to Hungary alliance with Nazi germany. Karma if you ask me.

[@Andre-ll1yg]

hungary was never cooperative with nazi germany we refused to help invade poland and they viewed us as inferior subhuman

[@catnap387]

Long live Ukraine and its people!

[@mutav2166]

FREE SOMOGY 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦

[@Alex.Kalashnik]

Lots of Hungarian trolls in the comments lol

[@jenniferbucci6987]

The US should stop supporting the Ukrainian military. Ukraine should allow minorities to use education in their own languages

[@aliengalaxy6096]

Ukraine exist since 1991 :) Any question? Ukraine made up from Poland, from Russia, From Hungary and from Romania, and in the center part is the original Ukraine. Ukraine has no any history...

[@xenq_4566]

Polski Lwów

[@alekshukhevych2644]

@@aliengalaxy6096 When Ukraine had a thriving European civilisation. Your nomad ancestors were fucking their horses!!

[@th-uh2oo]

@@alekshukhevych2644 Not only in Europe, according to your historians ancient Ukrainians build the pyramids of Egypt, Aztecs, Wall of China and dig up the Black Sea. We appreciate your encores contribution to the development of the human civilization but the time has come to pack you suitcases and return to your motherland, planet Venus. kzbin.info/www/bejne/epDNhWBnm5msnck&feature=emb_logo

[@romania1918]

Transcarpathia is a romanian land

[@tigrincs318]

No

[@ulanten892]

dude wtf

[@SokkingBTtulaj]

Yea, everything between Tokyo and Washington DC is Romania. In fact, the moon is Romanian land too. Romania has a claim to the south China sea since ancient times. Xi Jing Tepes, proud leader of the Romanian People's Party sets his sights on the Sun next, planning to send the first Romanian Uruk Hai astronauts to set foot on it after they pull King Arthurescu's sword out of a donkey's arse and lay Romania's rightful claim to London's red light district.

[@ulanten892]

@@SokkingBTtulaj you are wrong whole universe is romanian oh sorry for idiotism i want to saywhole universe is ROMANian44444!!!444!!4🇷🇴🇷🇴🇷🇴🇷🇴🇷🇴🌏🌎🌍=🇷🇴!!!44

[@SokkingBTtulaj]

@@ulanten892 You mean Hole universe is Romanian including Uranus? Unacceptable .That calls for intergalactic war.

[@EBAYvillager]

Good JOb, keep this up, thank you

[@AS-zo6um]

salva putin

[@romania1918]

Transcarpathia is a romanian land

[@gancarzpl]

You are late, please queue up Romania and wait your turn... XD

[@romania1918]

@cornpotato tomato yes, in a paralel univers

[@tigrincs318]

No

[@SokkingBTtulaj]

​@@gancarzpl Yea, everything between Tokyo and Washington DC is Romania. In fact, the moon is Romanian land too. Romania has a claim to the south China sea since ancient times. Xi Jing Tepes, proud leader of the Romanian People's Party sets his sights on the Sun next, planning to send the first Romanian Uruk Hai astronauts to set foot on it after they pull King Arthurescu's sword out of a donkey's arse and lay Romania's rightful claim to London's red light district.

[@gancarzpl]

@@SokkingBTtulaj Crazy or something? All of the territories you are talking about are Polish, then Hungarian, then Romanian. As of the Moon, the 'black eye' is Romania, the 'smile' is Hungary, and the rest is Poland. Everything in the direction of the Sun is Ukraine. Look up: Ukrainian language come from Venus. Did you come out directly of the Stone Age or something?