HOW DRUNK was the engineer? Citation Needed! [3/4 Idiot Show 2x01]

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[@Railman1225]

Something else that was mentioned is that due to CSX adopting PSR, one of the ways they cut costs was starting the practice of furloughing a bunch of their employees, INCLUDING THE DRUG AND ALCHOHOL TESTERS. So not only did the engineer himself fail to show up to the scheduled tests, but there were also less testers available to handle him and all the other engineers and conductors on the railroad!!

[@Hyce777]

oh wow, that would, in fact do it...

[@drewbarker8504]

It sounds like it was something of a perfect storm. It always seems like companies cut costs to save money, and it’s always in the wrong departments.

[@leightonmoreland]

Oh no…it’s the consequences of their own actions!

[@drewbarker8504]

@@leightonmoreland Youte right-you shouldn’t drink and railroad-even if you are hauling literal garbage in Ohio

[@sawyerawr5783]

I keep saying it: PSR is just the worst ideas of the bad old days of the 60s repackaged.

[@emilpersson8250]

The engineer was drunk enough after six hours that had he been here in Sweden he would have gone to prison for up to three years.

[@leechowning8728]

0.08% is illegal to drive in most states... He was so far beyond pickled that I would have to call him a salted fish.

[@MillBrookRailroad]

This reminds me of some of the stories I've been told by old New Haven guys about five man crews and the only one sober enough to prop the engineer up to leave the yard at the beginning of the shift was the junior member. Because he wasn't an alcoholic yet.

[@sawyerawr5783]

That is entirely believeable for the NH

[@davemachoukas6175]

America back then common

[@skylershummingbird1667]

Reminds me of similar stories about the Delaware & Hudson.

[@EpicRails]

What do you mean “yet?”

[@daniellewis1789]

I enjoy the Railroad Accident Comedic Review Board format.

[@robertbalazslorincz8218]

It's essentially Well There's Your Problem but short and railroad-focused

[@daniellewis1789]

@@robertbalazslorincz8218 I didn't want to say that, since it's not a derivative work - but the vibes are very similar. Fewer slides here, though. "It's an engineering podcast. With limes."

[@MrGrumpyToast]

As a current resident of Ohio all of these things you said were painfully true also you cant leave... the roads are either closed because of construction or ice.

[@nightjuice2764]

I left twice and was pulled back

[@AliAling-qy1ih]

Horay for cheap housing in crappy places!

[@BandanRRChannel]

4:31 The little "Boing" at the end of the crash description sells it. 😂

[@Pentium100MHz]

0.4% blood alcohol content is considered the "lethal" limit, but some people can go above that. For example, one guy in Lithuania was caught driving a car with 0.84% alcohol level. Yeah, double the lethal limit.

[@jlwalker2965]

I think you mean legal?

[@Pentium100MHz]

@@jlwalker2965 No, the legal limit here is 0.04%, so the guy was 20 times over it. 0.4% is the LD50 (AFAIK), it means that there is 50% chance you will die when you drink that much alcohol. However, different people have different tolerances, someone may die from less alcohol and someone can drink double that and still be conscious and somewhat able to drive a car.

[@ryank1273]

if they're living after doing something like that, neither Jesus or Satan want them. Sound very untrue, but people survive wicked crazy things still.

[@General_Taylor]

2:16 Lime-age chart! The Citrus begins... 2:32 Citrus-age 2 7:15 Citrus-age 3 7:45 Citrus-age 4

[@sawyerawr5783]

Did you notice how 20 gets unintentionally Limed at 2:38? She's probably over there thinking "What the hell did I do?!"

[@davidwhiting1761]

I went and read about this collision on the NTSB's website. What makes things worse for the engineer is that in post-wreck testing not only did they find a high blood alcohol level but they also found marijuana in his blood, but were not able to conclude as to whether or not marijuana contributed much to the accident. So not only was the engineer drunk but he was probably stoned off his rocker, too. Nah, if he didn't get suspended for a while he definitely got fired after the accident.

[@sambrown6426]

Oh, good lord.

[@jaysmith1408]

When some fellows from the Highway Patrol walk you off the job….he will never work in a safety sensitive environment for the rest of his career, or shambles thereof….when he gets out.

[@Rararawr]

I always found that peak train operating performance is when you're around .1% BAC per mile of train behind you

[@zachman1394]

oh, I can already tell this is going to be a good season if Jimmy is around the whole thing. the puns are real and worth it.

[@Midland1072Productions]

Hot damn, I knew this would be amazing and yet it is even more amazing. I love this this, yes to all of this. Really hope this can be a live show some day.

[@Hyce777]

We can dream.... here's hoping!

[@Ostermond]

Layton has slotted PERFECTLY into the Gary Brannan slot in this game.

[@HubrisInc]

I can't decide if Brett is Chris or Matt

[@WolfInOverdrive-tz4im]

@@HubrisInc Brett is Chris and jimmy is matt

[@tomstech4390]

​@@WolfInOverdrive-tz4im Hate to play into the "I am X person in the X" type stuff... but when you're right, you're right. I live on the internet/Presenter: Hyce = Tom Scott Tall bearded lumberjack type: Brett = Chris Potential aspy "I bought a trainset/ice cream machine type": Jimmy = Matt (and me fwiw). The older dad-jokes guy with glasses, probably married, a hoody, a flat cap because yorkshire: Layton = Gary

[@AnimeSunglasses]

@@tomstech4390 ...your reasoning looks impeccable to me!

[@weird1012]

Finally! The second season! *Air compressor blast sounds*

[@wilfstor3078]

Seven!

[@QuebecGamer20]

The 3/4 idiots videos are the best things on this entire channel.

[@Lex_Illovici]

Y'all share 3 braincells but 2 of em are on fireup duty.

[@Octopat]

Glad to see this has returned, can’t wait for more

[@CMDRSweeper]

My only comment to this is, it is too short! But don't take this too harshly, because I would probably say it is too short even if it was 5 hours or even 5 days long... Yup, I am definitely in love with 3/4 of an idiot show, just remember to switch PTC to NTC (Negative Train Control) if it gives you problems! :D

[@cubeq7974]

The engineer wasn't drunk, the engineer was hyce 😂

[@bjrnfrederiksson2505]

I cannot begin to say what was the best, that you guys made a new 3/4 of an idiot or the beginning, Jimmy from the cooc video is there and he's AMAZING and hilarious puns in the beginning or just Brett with his SHEEEEEEP XD

[@kenrickman6697]

I can’t speak for other railroads, but today (2024) on NS, restricted mode does not in any way prevent you going pat a stop signal. I love this format, by the way!

[@BeckaReus]

PTC restricted mode will still allow you do anything you want to this day. The only change they did was make restricted mode complain if you moved too long in restricted mode.

[@MainlineThruTheRockies]

Common CSX L

[@BeckaReus]

Oh that brings back memories. The east bound train crew was from my terminal.

[@themanformerlyknownascomme777]

I can only imagine east bound train's engineer and Conductor collectively going "fuck." When the noticed that West bound train wasn't stopping.

[@Ultra4115_]

Wow, imagine walking in on these guys lmao. Keep up the great work, you guys are awesome :)

[@OfficialDenverRioGrandeWestern]

At the grande we don’t think PTC is a safety feature we call it die like a man

[@leightonmoreland]

we die like men here.....in a mangled flaming heap at the bottom of a curve just like General Palmer intended

[@OfficialDenverRioGrandeWestern]

@@leightonmoreland Air brakes should have prevented this

[@southerncrescentstudios]

CSX (crash, smash, explode) "How tomorrow will end"

[@dafrog55]

Why didn't PTC prevent this crash (my guess? Super train had something go wrong mechanically and blew up. ((Before seeing story))) Edit: Oh it's two trains. New guess is picked a switch in a crossover. Double edit: I still say Layton was right. It was PSR. Profit over safety. Triple edit: wow. I was way off. Dude was hammered!

[@philvanderlaan5942]

At train heading west and a train heading east ? Nobody told me there would be math involved

[@TrainsAreReallyCool]

I have lived in Ohio for 16 years, and I can confirm that this state is pretty boring, except for Northern and Southern Ohio. Those areas are nice. However, it isn't boring when it comes to trains, as we're a pretty big crossroads state, with a lot of good and well-known railfanning spots. But, the traffic, especially in Marion, is often hit or miss.

[@Quackagate]

Slightly higher budget? Thanks Ezekiel Edit 1. As a Michgander i supprt the anti Ohio sentiment.

[@PikaPetey]

Oh my God I'm laughing so hard you ripping on ohio!!

[@anthonyj.adventures9736]

Ok the word play on CSX reminds me of when i was still a conventional highway flagger. I am a D.O.T/S.E.O crash and cone truck operator for freeways/expressways but we flagged for a utility company called henkels and McCoy and the running joke was they were called crinkles and destroys. They used to be notorious for not useing stabilizer pads and the outriggers would crinkle roads. and the work they did would need to be fixed soon after installed or they would destroy stuff as they rushed working. Lol they are an excellent professional group that do great work nowadays but years ago, fuggin crinkle and destroy.

[@anthonyj.adventures9736]

Leyton kept mentioning animals. Lol. Fun off the cuff fact did you know that the live stock car was patented by a Mr Zadok Street in if i remeber correctly 1870, he submitted 2 designs.i beleave 1 was the livestock and the other was the more enclosed poultry car which well the cargo is still live stock. But Live stock cars were used all the way until early 1980s out lived the caboose by a few years. They no longer transport animals in bulk by rail anymore no need cattle drive from texas north to transcontinental to ship east to be killed when there are so many slaughter across the nation now its cheaper to use trucks and ship by rail in refer cars as steak and milk. .

[@blue6619]

First time watching an episode of 3/4 Idiots and i'm already in love!

[@captainkrazee7726]

Hey Hyce, what makes an engine more powerful than another? Is it the boiler size and pressure?

[@Hyce777]

Boiler pressure, cylinder size, wheel size.

[@lizzyobrien2376]

Basically, what Hyce said, but to expand on that, there are a lot of things that play into it. For example, if two locomotives have the exact same boiler and wheel arrangement, but one has smaller wheels, the one with the smaller wheels will be ‘’’’’’more powerful’’’’’’ because of tractive effort. The one with the bigger wheels will have a higher top speed. This doesn’t take into consideration superheating, feedwater heaters, bearing type, what type of valve gear you have, firebox size, tube size, draughting ability, and other such things which all have small impacts on performance.

[@DadoMimi]

Is that the moment where we as fans step in, write fanfictions and then ask for a video of them reading said fanfictions? 😂

[@PikaPetey]

This has "that 70s show" style vibe.

[@IndianaNorthWestern]

I think Ohio would appreciate garbage being spilled rather than... you know.

[@Xsteelx94]

Love your show, dudes, I usually rewatch an episode on lunch break. Never not puts a smile on my face, can’t wait for more

[@The_Lord_of_The_Beans]

Beans

[@maman8929]

indeed

[@zippy3377]

Yes

[@rescues_greyhounds]

Thanks! Here’s some money for more paper and writing utensils

[@Hyce777]

Thank you :)

[@thatonecaledonian812]

2:38 THE 20 GOT LIMED

[@Redwagon2012]

SO FUNNY

[@joepincombe66]

Don't let Markiplier see this video you've seen when the lady from the game red dead redemption that was the first time I found out where he is from hadn't known before then

[@LunaGen-eh1ws]

20 and 491 are sitting there like "These idiots and their *insert Huber 6 chime here* LIMES!!!!"

[@juletid99]

Oh yeah. It is good to see you guys back in the Roundhouse.

[@seankaiser2505]

Jimmy From the Cog looks like Bandicam Gary Brannan

[@bluescrew3124]

Brett: a wetland with a mouse lol

[@bluescrew3124]

Oops, sorry I mean Leighton

[@Rekuzan]

"Cool whip" "Cool Huhwhip" "Cool Whip!" "Cool Huhwhip!" Probably didn't think anyone would catch that one!

[@TrainBandit]

More exits for Ohio lol. I bet that train stunk

[@Berserk_Loon]

Control Point Springs, I know that location very well. I spent many hours driving conductors around Carey, OH putting together stone trains. It was a fun job but the pay was bad(non-railroad employee, 3rd party contractor). I watched a SD40-2 partially derail at a grain solo switching job. Frozen switches suck!

[@AverageOhioan1903]

as a native ohioan all roads lead to columbus. there is no escape.

[@katies6426]

God. Great job as always guys, this was hilarious… LIMES!!!!!

[@Astro_dreagonz]

Well that explains the derailment they were down in ohio

[@ProtonTheProtogen]

Guess the engineer should have gotten a DUI, for driving a train under the influence

[@jenniferbutcher8393]

I live in Ohio. Your collective impression of our state is spot on 🤣🤣🤣 I can't stop laughing!!!

[@SilentMustang]

Man do I love 3 quarters of one idiot. And this like game thing

[@jacksmith4846]

You limed the 20 you monsters!

[@railfanmaximstill7279]

5:25 There's the joke I was looking for lol

[@wesleystuff4882]

Collegedale Tennessee wreck

[@thatonecaledonian812]

Oh god Eric shapeshifted

[@doczock1487]

THERE ARE CAMERAS IN AMERICAN LOCOMOTIVE CABS??? I would never allow a camera in my cab.

[@mikeytrains1]

Layton cracking the Airplane! jokes right off the bat tells me we’re off to a flying start…

[@Lectrikfro]

MYSTERY CITRUS!

[@Hyce777]

Limes

[@BMMEC6000]

🍋

[@railfanmaximstill7279]

4:03 Only in Ohio

[@randompersonwhocomments3645]

Smells like Kenosha

[@MilwaukeeRoadJames]

16:23 poorly

[@Mooxystrains]

if you want to feel as drunk as the engineer, just put the video on 0.25 speed! (if 21+ hide in some beer too!)

[@jasonwhitler4167]

Ain't much to do in Ohio other than drink. Pretty sure the Geneva convention mandates a BAC over 0.1 to exist there without it being considered cruel and unusual punishment.

[@DEATH7712]

Wowowowow! Knocking on the home of Lima steam works! Home of Goodyear tire, home of buckeye steel that made bolsters/frames,knuckles and a lot more, the original home of the highest iron ore that clad the monitor and the marimac, I mean really! How much history does Colorado or Washington have in comparison! You really should check your facts before knocking a state that still has a huge manufacturing and technology based jobs

[@crystalrock18]

This is more on the state of Ohio. Even though yes it’s sort of in the Midwest and yeah it’s not that glorious but remember this; NKP number 746, SPRR number 4449, and PMRR number 1225 were built in Ohio. AND Orville and Wilbur wright were natives to Dayton Ohio and it’s the home the other awesome museum the USAF museum. I know Colorado is a superior state. But Ohio built superior steam engines.

[@themigmadmarine]

This just makes me want to see you on a Well There's Your Problem episode...

[@1TruNub]

This is why we can't have nice things

[@johniacono3725]

Too much joking around. Can’t follow the story because of all the joking around. Be serious for once.

[@andrewframe8046]

Barely 3 minutes in and I wonder if y'all brought enough limes...

[@justnotg00d]

Where is your poster for Rocky XXXVIII ? No, I do not watch Gladiator movies anymore. // You are back? When were you gone?

[@jacobramsey7624]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mp_KoqmYfdx9h8U Hay hice!! I'm not sure if this would interest you, but here is video of the Conway Scenic Railroads railfans weekend in the 1980s. I think this would be a cool video to commit on in the future as stuff tourist Railroads used to do. Also go to 16 minutes and check out what they do with a steam locomotive that is non Operational.

[@nickm9123]

Hey I'm from New Jersey... and they are totally right. It sucks here, though up north isn't bad.

[@steeljawX]

"There was a train traveling East and a train traveling West." "Oh, that's bad." Me: Well at least there wasn't a train traveling up and a train traveling in; two of four alternative adjective directions that could be used in theory, but would actually be super frightening in reality. I mean, what would a train traveling in detail? Is it imploding in on itself and shattering a hole in reality? And if a train is traveling up, someone forgot to pay the gravity bill.

[@jamesoke7414]

Crash Bang Explode is Hyce in derail valley.. It'll be fine...

[@triggeredfloof]

Limes 🟢🍋

[@SteelWardogs-8913]

3:50 here’s a state for you guys, North Carolina and possibly South Carolina IDK if Csx runs in South Carolina I would think it does

[@jerseycentral833]

New Jersey jokes huh? Thought we were friends smh.

[@Hyce777]

As soon as they started down that rabbit hole I was like "well this is going to get me in trouble" lmao

[@MickelyMC]

Hi yes I'd like to report a crime - against the State.

[@wildcatindustries8030]

Me realizing a dude who wrecked a train was half as drunk as I was when I wrecked my truck

[@The_Pennsy]

If you live in Erie County, you will know of the cars from Ohio that are missing parts.

[@tiam4152]

haha hadnt heard that joke on CSX, but heres one that works for this first story... Crash, Smash, eXchange...??

[@andrewframe8046]

Leighton deserves another retro point for PSR. The NTSB meeting regarding this incident is up on KZbin and they spend a considerable amount of time talking about the PSR factors that potentially contributed to this incident.

[@andrewframe8046]

Particularly in the maintenance areas of the railroad, as well as the fact that we're dealing with a 2-mile-long train and the eastbound 4-mile-long train.

[@GreenRanger090]

lets go OH IO, Ohio is the worst place but ive been here for my whole 16 years on this earth and i got to say man its pretty mediocre. lol, very boring but we have farms

[@Armageddon_71]

I HAD IT IN NOTCH 8! IT WAS 100+ CARS IN OHIO!!!

[@Lectrikfro]

Anything to get out of Ohio faster

[@AidenOstrander]

3/4 idiot show makes me laugh every time I watch an episode. Hyce keep it up

[@kleetus92]

.2 and you'd be horking your guts out? Bro... you've never been to college?! That would be a fun friday night!

[@Hyce777]

Lol, believe me, been there many a time... Different when you're older and operating heavy equipment :P

[@Nareimooncatt]

Kinda surprised he got away with missing so many randoms. I'm a trucker and missing a random for any reason (except something like being in the hospital already) is considered an automatic failure and DOT suspension from driving a commercial vehicle until you complete a return to work program. And that's just from missing one test, even if it's as simple as you don't yet need to tinkle in the time window you have to take the test when called up. Also, anyone else notice the random people in the window in the background? Maybe set up near the window and turn this into something like The Today Show with their crowds watching from outside and getting to be on TV? lol

[@Hyce777]

That's why the NTSB / FRA came down so hard on the CSX. I didn't see the people until editing about the fourth time through, so surprised you caught it, lol. There weren't really any visitors at the museum that day, and we filmed almost at closing... oh well. lol

[@OldIronVideo]

Ohio isnt that bad we have a pretty cool roundhouse :)

[@fluxthelycanroc9603]

psr no fun. that being said im amazed with all the checks they do these days they managed to slip through the cracks here

[@jamesboykin7319]

I thought CSX stood for Chicken Shit Express.

[@iggyjill]

It reminds me of a derailment and collison where the engineer on dope at the time drank 10 litres of water in 11 hours went into water coma and had to be airlfted to hospital.

[@michaeldearden876]

Hyce, I need details on your mug. What clan are you repping there?

[@AtkataffTheAlpha]

Lol Mark your unintended pun. Limes!

[@TrainMedia00]

Oh no you stoled Henry's Welsh coal as a flavor and as for 491!!

[@LilyandOllieTv]

The answer to the question is not drunk enough😂

[@One_Silly_Shark]

I actually guessed the state right! (Only in Ohio)