Hyundai Ioniq 5 N-Line 84 kWh 1000 km challenge

[@nicholast.9827]

The phantom breaking when overtaking trucks happens with Tesla as well, especially when the truck is close to the left of its lane.

[@winstongarcia7183]

Hi Bjorn, It will be great if you produce some videos about Bjorn-car-ranking for different categories. What are the top city cars? what are the top family-travelling car? and so on. You could use some KPIs like reliability (with the experience of your workshop partner) , software maturity, the typical things that you analyze in your fantastic videos. It will be great to have an excel file similar to you 1000 km challenge. Please think about this idea and thanks for your videos.

[@droneabb4259]

That will be great. It will be very useful for people looking for a new EV. Also you can add the related link for visiting your previous videos about the cars.

[@winstongarcia7183]

You got the point

[@darinezambrano2641]

Fantastic idea

[@winstongarcia7183]

@bjornnyland what do you think?

[@johannesmuller8214]

I had similar problems with the ESP back in the early 2000 with my Alfa 147, when i was making sharp turns. The problem was indeed a defective abs sensor😅!

[@Angusoksen]

Great. Now We just need to see the regular Ioniq 5 LR RWD 84kwh do the 1000km Challenge. with a claimed WLTP range of 570km. Maybe that one can do it in 9H 30min!?

[@mmm1826]

Hyundai really are the kings of ev lately

[@williammccormick1092]

Im happy that tesla gets some real competitors. Its good for us consumers.

[@M-hq9xz]

But Ioniq 5 is their only good looking one

[@SkaBob]

Especially with their low cost models coming out. I think the EV3 has upto a 81kwh battery good for something like 380 miles, over 100 miles more than our Ioniq 5.

[@Zedus-rl9hp]

Yes, we also looked at the 5 / 5N to see if it was suitable for the company fleet. The high consumption meant that it was quickly ruled out - fast charging, where the E-GMP scores, plays a minor role for us, as we almost exclusively charge at 11kW AC directly at the company. This would mean that the Ioniq 5 would have to be plugged in for 10% longer - this would probably work out, as its battery is a bit bigger, but would clearly be detrimental to the TOC.

[@Banzai83]

High consumption? It’s very close to the most efficient thanks to its heat pump.

[@Zedus-rl9hp]

@@Banzai83 10% higher

[@sargfowler9603]

@@Zedus-rl9hp Hardly much higher than a MY

[@patrickf2386]

@@Banzai83 it seems relatively efficient at colder temperatures. But the shape and frontal area are still a problem at higher speeds and in summer. I don't see this car ever achieving

[@ErikHenriksson_]

​@@patrickf2386 The Ioniq 5 does

[@supermongis]

The TC/ESP/ABS problem affects several cars, including my car which was delivered a few weeks ago. If someone claims that this is "normal" phantom braking or that it has something to do with poor road grip/driving conditions, then they are wrong. My experiences have shown that it has nothing to do with other cars nearby either. This is a critical and dangerous error because TC/ESP can kick in suddenly and override engine power and brakes. The first time it happened to me, it created a dangerous situation during an overtaking. Hyundai must find a solution to this before it leads to a serious accident.

[@francescvidalodina]

It is not phantom braking, the TC lights comes on. I have experienced this in my new ioniq5 and so other owners I reached out on Reddit. This is something you could ask Hyundai with your connections

[@michaelcollier8768]

I experience it "sometimes" in my Ioniq 6. Most often when I am behind a big truck in the fast lane and it pulls into the slow lane and I go to pass it. Not sure why. Maybe I am moving a little too quickly for the crash detection. In 45,000 miles hardly ever when the big truck is running in the slow lane, properly. If the truck is on the edge of the line then it also happens sometimes but I don't think that is a bug.

[@10secondsrule]

I don’t get why can’t Hyundai offer a more efficient wheels on this trim. I like the N-line steering wheel and interior (but would prefer a lighter seats in a summer). I think 19” wheels will get another 10% improvement in range. Standard 20” also look much better than these wheels here - seems more efficient too.

[@mertcankesici7922]

Bjorn it's so cute when you say "oh sheeieee" with your daughter 😂

[@daveprice1608]

In the second generation Ioniq you get nice buttons to press to disengage lane keep assist and smart cruise control. Im very impressed with technology, range and space but waiting for bugs to be sorted!

[@TheViolatorSWE]

e-GMP cars has it's charging power limit related to the temp in the coldest cell in the battery. It changes by every 5°C difference and it needs +25°C in the coldest cell to get full charging speed. It only heats the battery until the coldest cell is +21°C or down to 9% SoC (in the MY22-24 it stopped heating at 20% SoC😢)

[@skejpa]

Nice test. I am looking forward to your test of Ioniq 5 RWD 84kWh in summer :) It will probably attack the best times ever.

[@c.brinker4387]

50 kWh within 15 Minutes are amazing. It would be interesting if Hyundai has better and easier options to disable the bingbingbing after the facelift🤔

[@stiansolberg]

I had the same problem with traction control on my new 5 N. I also try the tyre pressure but went away after turning off and on traction conrtol on the left side of stering wheel while driving. After doing this once i never had the issue again.

[@kjlovescoffee]

I notice the phantom braking happens each time you overtake a big truck. Many many moons ago I drove a scar small and light enough to be thrown around by the wake turbulence of a big truck. When overtaking, there would be a sudden feeling of a surge forward. I assume this is as the aerodynamic drag drops off as I exit the wake. I think what you're seeing is, as you're approaching the truck, aerodynamic drag increases and the car increases power to compensate and keep at speed. Then as you overcome the wake, there's a sudden drop off in drag and the car has to compensate, which looks like braking in an EV.

[@sinoevc]

Your video has been incredibly helpful to me. Thank you

[@antoniocirino8444]

Same heat pump for cabin and cooling the battery, it should be a total heat recovery system in this situation.

[@SkaBob]

There is a software update for the North American Ioniq 5 that addresses the rough road warning coming on for no reason.

[@hammerhoj-dk]

The most relevant is the longest-range version. Meaning LR RWD. You should test that version too. Would be very interesting to see how much the consumption is lower .

[@Scout14885]

Yeah, that’s the test, i‘m most interested, too. The smaller tires should effect efficiency, too.

[@davidz1264]

Pro tip: Tire pressure is measured with „cold“ tires 🤓

[@reynoldichi1090]

Really?

[@davidz1264]

@ ​​Yes. It‘s a different pressure with warm tires. All car manual, that I have read, say this.

[@bjornnyland]

I know and I already took account for it. No time to wait for cool down.

[@08047870]

about the fanthom breaking in the left corner, its mayby because is sease other car turning left an it thinks that car wants to change lane. the car in front turns left sooner than you and crosses the forward sensor making it beak.

[@Scout14885]

Very sweet family! ❤

[@simonengvall7433]

Gr8 1000km. The chargeport is curbcharging friendly!

[@SverreGaarder]

Regarding the phantom braking: My experience is the same, but I found the reason: the car seems to be warning if you in a curve on the highway is holding the steering wheel a little to tight against the curve. As soon as I just lifted the hand a little, or just “aided” the steering wheel into the curve, the phantom breaking disappeared.

[@trojan7330]

Could you test the range of the BMW i4 m50, they update the system and the battery.

[@Scout14885]

One question: if it overheats at the first charging stop in Winter….what will happen driving with it to italy in the summertime?

[@skejpa]

Nothing. As you could see next stops were with no problem. I was running Kia EV6 to Italy in August and it kept 230kW at all three stops we have made on Ionity. Looks more like some not correct battery preparation on first stop.

[@Scout14885]

@ is that so? As we know, the heating system takes heat from the battery (which won’t be possible in the summer) and the battery cooling system is a new design (not comparable to older IONIQs and EV6s). It appears, this system cannot sufficiently cool the battery while charging.

[@skejpa]

@@Scout14885 you may be right but I doubt that they would come up with heating/cooling worse than previous version :))

[@Scout14885]

​@@skejpaI sure hope so.

[@daemigeo1]

I love this car!

[@michalvaner3167]

I wonder about one thing. Some cars (I don't think Hyundai is one of them) have this weird system of DC fast charging points and it slows down if you do too many DC sessions in a row over a short time. Would such car get unfair benefit from the kindergarden run break? Also, I have Ioniq 5 RWD, with „only“ 160kW. It's powerful enough for me. I'd say it's based on driving style, how much is „enough“.

[@damijanstankovic3494]

Hei Bjørn, what do you think about vibrations. You mention that you noticed it on many cars. Is it only on specific speed, how bad is it ?

[@M0rd7ust]

Could it be that at the first charge in cold weather conditions, the battery is not cooled until it's too hot, so that cabin heating can run in scavenging mode for longer? Because more than just one single charge on a long trip is - statistically - rather unlikely.

[@mikecaroftheyear2363]

27:00 😂❤

[@jrundertsasnaas7671]

Du kan holde inne «mute» på rattet for å skru av speed limit warning

[@dimontecor]

That was added in the last software update, for all Hyundai/Kia cars with the ccNC system. But only for EV. It doesn't work on my Hybrid Kona. That's karma for keeping burning dinosaur juice :(

[@markussavolainen]

@@dimontecor It does work on my parents NQ5 sportage phev so definitely not EV exclusive(atleast on Kia side of things).

[@dimontecor]

@@markussavolainen maybe it's only to "pluggable" cars, and it says only EV because there is no PHEV Kona 😅 I'll try with the Tucson 😊

[@Erigion]

There's gotta be something wrong with the cooling logic when DCFCing. The Battery Heater temp sits at 26C even as the Batt Min/Max rise and rise. But when you go back to normal driving, the battery heater drops to 15C to cool the battery.

[@bjornnyland]

Nothing wrong with it. Works as designed.

[@carlosorff]

I don't understand Thai, but I understand love.Lovely family...wish all the best. Enjoy the quality time with them all.

[@kevins718]

He speak English all the time

[@Pewpewsogge]

isabel is going to make one hell of a german citizen :D

[@jesper0202]

Livestreaming soon? 🥰

[@apuspok]

Hi, do you have plans for Kia EV3 tests in the near future?

[@larslie2456]

Hei Bjørn. Does it still have the jiggle left and right on lane-following as in the video on the older models?

[@TheViolatorSWE]

In the previous models it's an easy fix, hold your hand at 3 or 9 o'clock an rest your arm som it becomes a weight. Then the jiggle stops.

[@De4dCert]

Hyundai better than Tesla…. So nothing has changed since 2019! More efficiency and more range wins again. No phantom breaking!

[@zachlafond2652]

I thought Hyundai had garbage software. The Out of Spec guys on the i90 3000 mile trip were complaing they can't even use the navigation on Ioniq 6 it is that bad.

[@skejpa]

Efficiency is still on Tesla's side. But the rest is in Hyundai's hands. That charging is insane :) And if he goes again in summer, it will attack the best time there.

[@jasopolis]

I think Hyundai software is pretty average for a legacy manufacturer, which is pretty bad objectively 😂 iirc the refreshed 2025 has updated software, but not by much. They do have carplay/android auto though! Plus Tesla has a history of doing sketchy things with their software (e.g. disabling autopilot 1s before fatal crashes to evade responsibility from authorities) so I definitely dont trust them with data privacy either personally. It might be more worth it to others though!

[@AbroadinChina]

12:54 come on, there's an empty lane that you can drive on as fast as you can on the right. everyone knows that's where you go when traffic backs up. that and emergency lanes. *that was sarcasm in case someone didn't get it

[@gautearefjord]

The Asians make better quality. That's just a fact. Everybody talks about efficiency but the most important is quality over time.

[@powershin12]

25:50 hahahah teach her from the early age

[@MyMizin]

Hi, what program do you use to get information from the car?

[@rmkkkk]

3:04 ESP IS working there, is it slipping?

[@jasopolis]

Add on the native NACS connector in the US/Canada this year, and the Ioniq 5 is finally shaping up to be the Tesla killer it was supposed to be :o

[@jasopolis]

okay, minus the sad thermal management LOL…guess we can dream

[@johannesmuller8214]

I drive the ev6 now over 2 years and never had any problems. The reason might be, that i only discharge and recharge the battery in a 70% window. The resulting range is more than enough, the stops are shorter (15 min for well over 250km) and its better for the battery. So there are no disadvantages for me. ​@@jasopolis

[@Maarten_vd]

​@jasopolis Having a 'start Stop' button 😂😂?

[@danielpenov]

It won't because it's 800v and the legacy tesla chargers are 400-500v, so it won't charge quick on these.

[@Wasssup3232]

@@danielpenovit will charge just not as quick. It about matches a model Y on a Tesla charger now

[@kennethsmyth]

The back seats are too low and uncomfortable over a distance unlike the model y

[@saml4537]

This over the MAGA Y all day long!

[@benedetti9000]

6% for Battery Care and Climate 1%? Why is that?

[@dasunikat1534]

Preheating before fast charging.

[@janmortensen9314]

Are Tesla owners taking over the left lane from the BMW owners?

[@bjornnyland]

No. Norwegians are. Regardless of brand.

[@vhol93]

nice

[@zaaz7721]

I hope tesla introduce 800 v with 85 battery on Juniper.

[@frankstocker5475]

When Hyundai have the same charging system as Tesla then you can say it might be better. Yesterday I was travelling on a French motorway when I pulled into a service station for a break, I noticed 52 Tesla chargers and two chargers for other cars. What chance is there to sell EV cars with this appalling infrastructure on the motorways.

This is not a problem in Norway. Sounds like the French need to get their act together.

[@rogeriogomesosorio4755]

Hyundai lost two of it most important features when it started selling EV cars: they weren’t expensive and they where very efficient. The ioniq original and the kona where great EV cars. But now, I find it difficult to consider it a great option over, for example, a Tesla Model Y.

[@ebe84]

I just choose Ioniq 5 over Tesla Y. Tesla Y has best price, space and infotainment. The Ioniq 5 have better sest comfort, drive comfort and regenerating options. Battery, charging and range is pretty much the same. So it’s all up too whst the buyer think is the most important features.

[@deko1983]

Its like a TDI without a T hahaha

[@Kavyatej]

youtube Classic

[@gokkiyoutube]

omg that map screen is so stuttery, what's wrong with it?

[@karla6999]

As long as a car has a Start Button and is not capable of OnePedal Driving, it‘s definately not better than Tesla!

[@manuelkong3611]

There is One-Pedal-Driving and 4 levels of regen to play with.

[@EiAinaVoi]

​@@manuelkong3611 don't forget the auto-regen 😉

[@hakonpettersen4140]

Tesla wins because if superior software. Not to mention the 12V and ICCU problems of Ioniq5s..

[@DavidMrvar]

Try to drive both and rethink. Sure Tesla has some software advantages but all in all I would always choose HI5.

[@Maarten_vd]

Not better than Tesla, but on par looking at the temperature, while using a lot more energy than Tesla 😅

[@rolandjarrett611]

And your point is?

[@johannesmuller8214]

The Temperature Difference caused at least 50% of the Extra consumption!

[@Banzai83]

Well if you look at battery status after 140000km Hyundia/Kia is better

[@sworksm552]

​@Banzai83 not really, because Hyundai has a huge puffer...

[@Banzai83]

@ that delivers the right netto capacity after many years.

[@matsjohansson5664]

presentera billigare elbilar. Typ MG4!

[@tridrean]

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[@kituchudy]

😂

[@Darknight00744]

Erster

[@akrobet]

Soo, with all these issues with ABS, charging, overheating, limited power and a lot higher consumption, how exactly is this better than Tesla? 😅

[@sargfowler9603]

It did the run quicker

[@akrobet]

Did it though? Conditions for two tests are never really the same, different temperature, road congestion, charging anomalies, tire pressure changes.. This is more entertainment than objective test results..

[@sargfowler9603]

​@@akrobet Even if it's just the same, it shows that Tesla is no longer miles ahead of the competition. They have caught up.

[@akrobet]

@@sargfowler9603 Well, if you only look at how fast you can do a roadtrip, yeah maybe. Efficiency is still not there, but comparable. It comes down to other aspects, like software, and the type of interior one prefers. But the Ioniq 5 is definitely the better alternatives out there for sure.

[@SkaBob]

We have a 2022 Ioniq 5 and it has none of those problems.

[@BeyondWrittenWords]

Since Norway is most anti-Trump country in the world, can we get ATB marking on the video, denoting this video is politically Anti-Trump Biased. Because Elon etc...

[@zachlafond2652]

I highly doubt that. Trump loves Norway.

[@TheEdmaster87]

I wonder why the car manufacturers dont add 125-150kwh battety packs. Yes that is more heavier a little more expensive, but that will break the 1000km wltp range, later on when the batteries are improved with more energy density allowing same range with less weight/capacity the 125kwh-140kwh car will not fall in value that much..

[@sunseeker-yb5qt]

Most people drive 20-30km per day…so for them 300-400km range is perfect now and in future🤷‍♂️

[@TheEdmaster87]

​@@sunseeker-yb5qtI drive 44 km a day. Yes for small driving its OK. But I still want 1000km+ range so I dont have to recharge that often in winter time. If we are able to drive further due to higher capacity or better battery density, we will be more flexible everywhere, dont stay in charge ques during holidays, dont have to recharge that often, use the car's battery capacity to power your house/cabin or other supplies and tools more easily, relax the energy grid etc.. its alfa and omega. So even if people only drive short trips, its still great to have a larger tank even if you dont use it all st once. I can imagine having a full tank for a month instead once a week or 2. That would be amazing.

[@chrishar110]

@@TheEdmaster87 Your power consumption would increase 25-30% for just one journey, or even two in a year.

[@DavidMrvar]

​@@TheEdmaster87I am sure you have a 5 meter long dining table in the house for those twice a year friends and family gathering occasions, right?

[@thk4711]

ABC - Always Broken Car ;-)

[@Felmea]

E-gmp is in my opinion one of the most disappointing platforms yet. Highly capable specs wise, but the execution is so unrefined in so many aspects.

[@Angusoksen]

Also more dissapointing than the CMF-EV (Scenic and Ariya) or the STLA medium (3008/5008) platform? I don't think so.

[@Mr.Relaxed]

Better than Tesla...nahh, it wasnt

[@KirksAudioSanctum]

8:40 Why use a battery? The Hydrogen cars are so much better. You fill them like a petrol car, there is no waiting around and it is still electric! So why are they all using slow batteries, Bjorn?

[@ErikHenriksson_]

Since Hydrogen is normally made from natural gas (Steam Reforming), you can just go with a gas/diesel car and save all the trouble.

[@KirksAudioSanctum]

@ErikHenriksson_ the one they have is 2024 Toyota Mirai.

[@jost4786]

Most EVs charge in the garage at home. Hydrogen cars is useful in the many countries without sufficient electricity network to fast charge cars like in Norway, as long as low CO2 hydrogen is used

[@ErikHenriksson_]

The problem is that "low CO2 Hydrogen" doesn't exist in practice, because it gets outcompeted by fossil-generated Hydrogen (in particular in parts of the world which lacks a stable electricity grid). Hence, Hydrogen cars end up mostly useful as green washing for the fossil fuel industry.

[@jost4786]

Fossil generated hydrogen (blue) can be as low CO2 as green hydrogen. Value chains are being developed slowly as people does not want to pay more for renewable energy. People vote on politicians. So humans get what they want. Slow transition!

[@tridruankham2657]

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