I Asked Massad Ayoob About Modified Triggers

[@possiblepilotdeviation5791]

Massad's voice sounds like he should be singing for the Oak Ridge Boys.

[@CIRCLEDARK]

He probably smells like an ashtray.

[@fasnuf]

NASCAR

[@travistucker7317]

Daddy sang bass...

[@brandonmccormick1571]

🤣

[@patrichardmvp]

Years of chain-smoking will do that to you.

[@eravelo]

Been reading Massad's articles for forty years. He is the standard.

[@davidschaadt5929]

Yes I remember reading his articles from back in the early eighties.he gives excellent real world, practical advice.

[@oldcop18]

Agree. I met him in the Fall of 2016 when he interviewed me for an article he was writing for American Handgunner.

[@J_Braz_]

He really is. He's the guy Hickok45 listens to when he wants to learn something.

[@gmcjetpilot]

He is pretty consistent...

[@alphaomega5721]

Agreed.

[@Mrgunsngear]

A lot of logic and wisdom here.

[@tomrkba4685]

...5...4...3...2...1... Half the gun community will discount this and do what they’re going to do.......

[@petesheppard1709]

Absolutely! I’ve been following Mas since the late ‘80s. There are many outstanding trainers, but none that go into the legal aspects of self defense like he does.

[@Jane.Doe.]

@@petesheppard1709 Yes, I know right? He's just such an all around *brilliant* man while having that down to earth, make you comfortable, genuine, never arrogant, just that really kind way that he has. This might sound silly but, if I'm feeling stressed or anxious.. I'll watch a Massad Ayoob video and it just calms me right down! 🧘‍♀️ Take care -

[@anthonylewis9256]

Your right the comment section is full of wise people

[@mef9327]

Massad Ayoob is so amazing at explaining and expressing concepts in easy to understand ways. Einstein once said “If you can’t explain it simply, you don’t understand it well enough”. Ayoob, is the Einstein of self-defense. I would love to take a class by him.

[@robertalonzo5725]

Totally worth the time and money! We did the MAG 40. Best time and money spent

[@LostintheHate]

You are officially an Ayoobian

[@InGratitudeIam]

True words of wisdom. The word "attorney" comes from the French words, "attornment and tourner" which mean to "turn or twist." Know your enemy.

[@alwong604]

Attorneys are tools. They can help and/or harm you. Get the best tool you can afford.

[@HighSpeedNoDrag]

Your comment is why I read the comments, interesting.

[@roryross3878]

@Black Pill Just prosecutors.

[@dom4020]

I don't know...French is my first language and attornement isn't a word🤔

[@bluetv6386]

@@dom4020 tu lis Villon dans le texte et parles le vieux français couramment?

[@mcmiller233]

Even Chuck Norris recommends listening to Mas.

[@donwilson9939]

When Massad speaks, everybody listens (at least they should).

[@bps20]

Doesn't mean we understand him. What's he saying aroun 14:30 ? I'm trying to find the case but the name is unclear. I get that it probably isn't important to read and will only reinforce his statement of not painting skills on firearms. But I want to read it.

[@762x69]

arizona vs brailsford Shooting of Daniel Shaver

[@samo8204]

I never will understand why the prosecutor just "Wants to win" Vs. seeking justice.

[@HighSpeedNoDrag]

Amen.

[@TR5T]

@@samo8204 PRIDE, EGO, BRAGGING RIGHTS.

[@boatdetective]

Mas speaks with the calm authority of someone who has spent decades honing his opinions. The interviewer deserves some respect for being gracious enough to allow Mas to hold the stage. Good team work, guys. I could see countless additional videos of Mas offering real world gems of advice.

[@michaelmcgee335]

Except the man in the red shirt can’t be more wrong. There is a reason “you have a right to remain silent” is in place.

[@googoo-gjoob]

@@michaelmcgee335 , after all, he only has 43+ years as an expert witness.

[@wilcoxtactical3716]

John Korea . Active Self Protection

[@SullyCortez]

Dude.... best.... video.... YET! No John I’m being serious, this video just changed my ENTIRE outlook on triggers. I’m making sure all my triggers break at 4lbs AT LEAST from now on. Never once has it been how “smooth” the trigger was... it’s always been how “light” the trigger was.... words of wisdom. PLEASE John, more videos like this with legal experts! Keep killin’ it!! Mas is amazing!

[@shawnnance3670]

This came up at my trial after an on duty shooting. The prosecutor alleged that I was a "loose cannon" who modified my glock trigger so I could shoot faster. Thankfully I still had the factory box that has the label showing I bought it from glock with a 4.5 lb pull. Same prosecutor alleged I was militant because I wore a BDU style uniform instead of class C's. Of course it didn't matter that I was a K9 handler and constantly running after the dog and suspects shredded my class C's. Liberals will say or do anything to make you look bad. Thankfully I was acquitted and returned to duty but later left law enforcement after the bitter taste wouldn't wash out.

[@glennrishton5679]

I know this is an old comment of yours but I wanted to add some thoughts. I am skeptical of prosecutes in general so often they are either elected officials or their boss is. Guilty verdicts are how they keep score and a high score looks good come election time. Next as you experienced are the complete firearms idiots typified by the two dolts in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial, I dont give a damn how many people certified that AR was not loaded still do not point a gun at anyone with your finger on the trigger. I know of no better system than a trial but a trial is not to me a search for truth and or justice. It is a contest between lawyers of who can evoke the strongest emotions in a jury. Facts and common sense be dammed. Example is you wearing BDUs. Things like the BDUs can be explained but a misleading idea could be planted in the jurors minds.

[@brianking9215]

@@glennrishton5679 yes, sadly most of the time they don't look at people as PEOPLE only wins and losses

[@nohero178]

You're obviously still bitter. I hope you find peace.

[@shawnnance3670]

@@nohero178theres always a smart ass. It was 20 years ago, I'm good...

[@OnceShy_TwiceBitten]

@@shawnnance3670Yeah, the irony is HE'S Bitter lmao. On something, so he's so jaded he projects it lmao.

[@BoHumphries]

"Most of you listening to this [have probably been lulled into a deep sleep]" joking aside, a lot of good info. Massad is a real deal OG.

[@ASPextra]

His voice is so deep!

[@hello_newman3116]

This has solidified that I should just train more with my stock trigger. Thanks to you both!

[@knndyskful]

This is the first time I’ve heard Mr Ayoob raise his voice

[@AusyG]

I feel like if he were to raise his voice in anger I'd feel very scared

[@universeconsciouscitizensc592]

I read this man's books in the 1980's and he was my fave instructor-from-afar. I'm so glad to see him as wise and articulate as ever, and now I know he also has the "voice of power". This man is sharp and experienced, so listen up.

[@sb859]

Thank you John for this great data and knowledge. His actual court room experience is good as gold.

[@kwongyeang]

I love that this is clearly filmed in a church. Fantastic sermon. Mas is a legend. John is a future legend.

[@dominicgaraycochea704]

John, you’ve been killing it with the content lately ! Keep it up brother

[@obliviox]

When i see people with the punisher skull on their pistol... 🤦‍♂️

[@Namedeeznuts]

Yeah not the pistol but the holster if you’re into it !

[@perrythomas6971]

Seems like something the Yankee Marshal would do!😏

[@adamr9720]

What about "Smile and wait for the flash" on the fore end of your rifle? I've seen that.

[@garynelson9538]

obliviox you mean I shouldn’t carry my Punisher 1911 with the Extra-Hair Trigger loaded with my Diablo Super Spatter-666 Exploding Guaranteed to kill you & yo mamma ammo?? Damn, what this country coming too??

[@da.reverend]

@@garynelson9538 LOL. :-)

[@dalekidd420]

MAS: "I wrote an article for Combat Handguns magazine back in the 80's where I interviewed..." ME: "Holy crap, I remember reading that back when it first came out!" Damn, I feel old...

[@ASPextra]

The old age bus comes outta nowhere...

[@victormudrack3406]

Dale, I am RIGHT there with you, man. Read all of Mas' stuff.

[@getoffmylawn8986]

You too, huh?

[@jpoeng]

😆Right?? Lol Mas has literally helped shape now 2 generations of responsible gun carriers. Conversely, when I hear someone rant about “Mas is full of bs...” that pretty much tells me all I need to know about *their* opinion... 🤣

[@1Knightwolf]

@@ASPextra And sometimes it backs up.... just to make sure it did a good enough job.

[@patmcmahon1720]

Mr Ayoob is the gold standard in these things. Listen , heed.

[@lanz637]

Massad Ayoob has been one of my practical shooting heroes for quite a while. ASP Rocks for bringing him on.

[@GalloPazzesco]

I had heard that rumor about Ayoob and the modified trigger thing (as well as the hand loaded ammo thing) decades ago. Glad to have it clarified - much appreciated.

[@DesolatorMagic]

My 7 pound MP Shield trigger was unusable. I put a 4 pound Apex on it. Now i can shoot it more accurately. THE END.

[@doddgarger6806]

Absolutely unusable I dumped mine for a Taurus much much better

[@tonyovermyer5368]

I find the 6 lb trigger on my Walther PPS to be just fine. I havent shot a shield 9mm in quite some time but I dont remember the factory trigger being that bad. I definitely agree with Mas that it's the smoothness, not the weight that makes a good trigger.

[@jeffholm3503]

I did exactly that with my Shield. My G19 has a 4.5# Ghost connector. My EDC is a P365 with a stock trigger. Trigger pull is between 4.5 and 5 lbs and all 3 are smooth with similar trigger pulls. Consistency within established limits is my goal.

[@Snubrevolver]

Man y'all are spoiled. Revolvers run 13 pounds on double action and they shoot just fine.

[@TheWilferch]

You missed the point.....not THE END of the story as seen by a jury.....YOU MODIDIFIED IT TO AN UNSAFE LEVEL ( they will say....and be hard to defend to a "non-gun" group of people)

[@minicoopertn]

I love Massad. Everytime I listen to him I learn something new. I love how he gives legal arguments like he is in the court room. My question or statement is a standard Glock advertised trigger is 5.5lbs which in reality when tested is about 6.5lbs. I have a 4.5lbs drop in trigger bar and a titanium safety plunger which does not affect the trigger pull weight but the smoothness of the trigger pull. I believe my personal gun pulls at least 5lbs or just above which nearly everyone out there would still consider safe. My point I am making is that the advertised trigger weight is normally is little lighter than the actual pull weight since gun mfr's do not want to be sued. In my personal opinion if your actual trigger pull weight is within 1/2lbs of advertised trigger weight then you should be fine. Just make sure to follow common gun safety rules including don't place your finger inside the trigger guard unless you are going to shoot. Also make sure to get several days worth of extra training including things like deesculation, medical, force on force with evidence of course completion. I personally was surprised when doing force on force and shoot/don't shoot exercises how easily it was just to react and shoot without thinking when already stressed when someone unexpectedly jumps out of a doorway less than arms length in front of you waving their arms screaming for help. How you think you would act and how you actually act are not the same.

[@miker1721]

Don't modify the Glock trigger, even if they are Glock factory parts from another gun. Reference court case SANTIBANES VS. TOMBALL(HOUSTON), 2006. americanhandgunner.com/the-ayoob-files/unintended-shot-the-santibanes-incident/

[@Snubrevolver]

@@miker1721 Fantastic link, thanks for sharing.

[@louisbecker5941]

Always good content when Mas is speaking. I view him as the ultimate firearm Guru.

[@woodzman991]

That guy is the coolest man ever. Thanks for the time with a legend John.

[@hblegal8309]

Also, don't use a "Shake Weight." They will say you made your hands stronger so the trigger will be lighter. It might go off in your hand! :)

[@sheepdogoutdoors7006]

The smiley face isnt enough for alot yo know this is a joke. God help them😂

[@vpiRY]

Hahahahahaha😂😆😂😆

[@omnivore2220]

It's refreshing to hear a voice of both experience and knowledge.

[@BuddhaKat1]

Good info John, thank you both for the interview.

[@Gooch292]

Massad’s voice is a defensive weapon in and of itself!!!

[@emptech]

Through many years of going through firearms training, I've heard the same thing that Massad has said. The opposing side is going to say that you intentionally had that firearm modified to make it easier to kill someone. I am proud to say that have also been one of Massad's students, an experience I will never forget. Some say his techniques are "old school," he doesn't follow modern techniques. If you have ever seen the gentleman shoot, there is nothing wrong with what one would call "old school." Jim

[@bobjoned3398]

Never cock a double action revolver Shows intent to shoot.

[@jnick1909]

Attorneys will say anything to make you look bad and bolster their case against. Don't worry about what they might say. Worry about why you did what you did and be able to explain it. They tell you you modified the trigger to kill easier, you say I modified it to shoot more accurately.

[@dennislum4460]

Show us where that's ever been successfully used to get someone convicted.

[@Ozzyjunky]

Massad is the real deal. Always enjoy listening and learning from him.

[@sfertonoc]

Sht, my unit commemorative gun has its motto on the side: “strike to kill”... I guess I will carry something else.

[@TR5T]

Have it engraved "It squirts, heavy"

[@tedgoebel5907]

I know every time I see/hear Massad, I will learn something important about firearms. Thanks for the class time John!

[@jrf5418]

as always a wealth of knowledge Massad!

[@WestCoastChicano]

It's common sense. Even Jerry Miculek doesn't carry a 2 pound trigger for self defense. There are no absolutes but carrying a trigger made for speed shooting I'd say there's a high probability that you'll shoot an unintended target in a high stress situation. Gr8 vid. 🔫

[@82lowe36id]

Love hearing from Massad. Thank you for making this video.

[@hackptui]

I guess this means carrying a Polymer80 "ghost gun" is out of the question...

[@doddgarger6806]

Nah just use a standard trigger parts kit in it

[@Aspen910]

Dodd Garger I disagree with you. As a gun grabber it’s easy to accuse you of having made a homemade gun so that you could kill my client and attempt to never be caught for doing so. A P80 should just be a range gun.

[@newerest1]

@@Aspen910 that should be easily debunked in court when your attorney points out that you called the police to report the shooting and waited for the police to arrive

[@brandonschwertley2723]

Yea, pretty much. If a zealous prosecuting attorney can jab at a lightened trigger, you bet they will jab at a home made firearm. if it is not serialized yet, even more fuel for that fire. That makes you look like a criminal, you didn't want the gun to be traced to you. Besides from a reliability standpoint, do you really trust your workmanship more than a gun made at a factory? With skilled laborers, maintained tooling, quality assurance personnel, and a proven track record. Plus you can practice with these guns for thousands and thousands of rounds, to ensure they are indeed reliable with your carry ammunition. I have personally seen a P80 lower where the rear and front rails for the slide were not level with each other. It actually worked with a glock factory slide, but not the aftermarket slide the owner was trying to install. IMO, a P80 is a range toy or a science project, never something to be seriously carried or used.

[@sfertonoc]

P80 really is for shtf, not something I would go public with.

[@thomaswhite2802]

This is incredibly helpful, Masaad obviously studied laws and it’s incredibly helpful to know. Well done

[@Beltfed45]

I have always respected Mas.

[@awidesigns]

Super good information as always. thanks John keep up the good work, and stay healthy, from your fellow Phoenician.

[@hoosierdaddy2308]

Maasad is so good and so well thought out about these legal subjects. Great stuff. Just found this and I subscribed. ❤

[@christopherbrady8962]

Great info. Thanks to you both for sharing this with your followers.

[@chgofirefighter]

I have yet to see cases of people being prosecuted for modifying their pistols or modding them… at the end of the day, you’re the safety! Training and fundamentals are key!

[@dennislum4460]

There is absolute evidence that this could cause you more hassles and an overzealous attorney could use it against you to get you into the courtroom . The student is antiquated And stuck in 1970. He also has a video where he says you should immediately tell everything you can remember to the police so that it gets. Recorded in case you forget later. Let me remind you clowns that the police are not your friends and they aren't here to make sure you have a Good day.

[@celticspride133]

You would hate to be the first one though

[@tv92taylor]

Honestly, the idea that a prosecution is going to argue a shooting was accidental/negligent while the defendant argues the shooting was intentional, but justified, is a bit ridiculous. If you intended to pull the trigger, it doesn’t matter how light it is, and it doesn’t matter who modified it. Cosmetic modifications can be a different story.

[@user-pv9pv4xf9c]

Yeah my buddies and I have had long conversations about this back and forth. I was originally the "never modify the trigger!" kinda guy, until I realized just how much more accurate I can be by changing just one or two things on my Glock. It really does seem like you'd basically be hitting the unlucky powerball lottery to actually have a case where you lose because you modified a trigger a little bit. One of my main concerns when conceal carrying is mass shooter defense. That's why I always carry at my church, and I'm being trained by the head of security there. One could argue that you'd never need to make a 40-50 yard shot, until someone with an AR takes a shot at you or someone else down a long hallway or out in a parking lot at that distance.

[@rosebarnes9625]

tv92taylor. I'm thinking the same thing.... If I felt my life was in danger and I shot the perp, how can someone else possibly say I'm guilty for a negligent discharge? But then again, pretty much everything else in the world is completely insane right now, so kinda fits in...

[@BooyaCS]

I think he meant that the prosecution would argue you don't know where or what you are going to hit. If your trigger is so light you may have got away with hitting the intended target but what about an errand shot? What do i mean? If you are in a defensive shooting and the person you shot had 3 bullet wounds but you only have 6 rounds left in your magazine. Where did the rest go? They could argue negligence that you put others in danger because of the modification to the gun (not that you were a bad shot and missed).

[@mahituna1]

It will come up big in the civil lawsuit, as he explained the lawyers will paint you as negligent since it's a wrongful death lawsuit

[@user-pv9pv4xf9c]

@@mahituna1 I guess the bottom line is we're really at a point with our criminal and civil justice system that we can't really defend ourselves. You can furlough the actually physical assault to your body, but then basically the state will just steal everything from you afterwards from a financial sense, all because you had the audacity to not be a helpless lamb that is completely and utterly dependent upon the strong arm of the government.

[@johncollins5021]

One of your best one yet.

[@ytbenavraham9553]

I had this same discussion with another operator last week. Glad to see the master speak on this subject.

[@adamwaffledivision3282]

@gothael1 vey!

[@jonmeray713]

You operate a microwave

[@gregoryunderwood4121]

Great!!! Knowledge is power. Thank you for sharing that!!!!!

[@RailGunZ-wf1df]

I'm a believer in stock. Most quality pistols these days will outshoot most shooters. I like to change out grips but none of that punisher skull crapola.

[@Crangaso]

Exactly why I love Walther's PPQ / PDP with the manufacturers flat metal trigger installed and not the competition trigger springs keeping the factory duty trigger pull weight.

[@Painterrap]

Yeah, this is good advice, and it may not be the way it should be but it's the reality of the criminal justice system in America. I actually had a buddy who was carrying a Glock 43 for his everyday carry and he did some upgrading to the pistol which included some TFX sights, stainless steel guide rod, grip enhancement by way of stippling, improved slide cuts by way of custom milling, and he added one of those little streamlight laser/light combos that actually attaches around the trigger guard cause you know there's no rail space on the 43. With all that said he didn't do anything to the internals, no upgraded trigger shoe or trigger bar, nothing. Well I was totally fine with the pistol and thought it was very nice, that was until I saw the one upgrade I just missed until I actually looked it over in person. He had replaced the factory rear slide plate, you know the one you have to remove to take the striker out and such, with a aftermarket aluminum plate that said "Infidel". I gave him a circumstance in which that could be seen or interpreted by a court of law as a very negative or even potentially radical word to have on a firearm, and while the odds are very low as a standard civilian, in terms of you actually ending up in an encounter that results in the discharge of your personal protection weapon, their high enough that millions of people including myself carry on a regular basis. I didn't even get into the what if scenario where the person or persons you end up in a deadly force encounter with would happen to be of a particular religion or decent.

[@Boondocksaint1PSN]

Awesome advice from a true expert! Absolutely love the video and lecture from an amazing person.

[@ASPextra]

Glad it was helpful!

[@yesterdayshero2916]

Excellent presentation John. Keep up the good work.

[@mikeO31082]

Thank you for the great info in this video. Was considering a trigger upgrade on my sd9ve. Drop the standard 8-10lb trigger pull down closer to 5-6lbs. I decided to reached out to Smith & Wesson first, to find out what thier min trigger weight spec is from the factory, and they actually recommend a 6-7lb trigger as the min. The trigger upgrade would have dropped the pull weight below what the factory recommends.

[@dennislum4460]

You could also just not go With the lowest class of firearm you could purchase.

[@sealevelbear]

Excellent segment, thanks to you both! 🤠

[@mychaelpierce8049]

Massad is the expert in this area. Listen well! Thanks for sharing!

[@godspeedforevertv]

I seen exactly one video from Massad and I love him. Not sure how I never heard of him but better late then never. I can listen to gun talk all day

[@jpjp3873]

Great video! I don't understand how there can be any questions about trigger weight if you intended to shoot and hit what you were aiming at. "Ladies and gentlemen, the deceased was shot while committing an armed robbery." Case closed.🙂

[@jayzenitram9621]

That's because you still think that the goal of a trial is to find the truth, when in fact the goal is to convince a jury and you can bet each side will use every underhanded tool at their disposal to do so.

[@danielhenry2711]

@@jayzenitram9621 exactly

[@greytallcloud5695]

no he was not idiot look it up

[@hackptui]

@@jayzenitram9621 So true. I've sat on a couple juries and both times, I saw them make comments that they knew would be overruled and expunged, and the judge would tell us to ignore the statement, but they'd say it anyway because they knew we'd remember and it would at least subconsciously bias us. Disgusting.

[@jacobcastro1885]

If you can't rely on a jury, or prosecutor to carry out justice... what have we become? Cops too... there's good ones and bad ones. Now even the good ones don't want to work, and who can blame 'em.

[@danpetty3607]

The Legend has spoken. So let it be written; so let it be done.

[@magus1017]

John is like a boy in a candy shop talkin to Ayoob lol

[@2nd_a_dad4791]

This might be the most relevant video your subscribers ever watch. Thank you, and thank Massad Ayoob.

[@daviddale3624]

How to remove the "hair trigger" argument posed by unscrupulous attorneys...have only factory spec carry/duty triggers.

[@zionkid28]

Great vid and great points from a great expert

[@Babybeamergirl]

Perfect logic for the use of a brace on the AR pistol 💁🏻‍♀️

[@rogerj412]

Brailsford is a former police officer is Mesa, AZ who engraved his duty rifle with "you're fucked" and Molon Labe. He later shot and killed a suspect who had pointed a pellet gun out of his hotel room. The suspect died and Brailsford was charged with Second Degree Murder and ultimately acquitted.

[@MobiusUSAH]

And the engravings were not really part of the trial. They were the reason he was fired from the police department, but reading some of the cases, I don't see anything about them in the judgements. Not disputing, but also not really seeing how it's relevant.

[@jakehansen3418]

He wasn't charged because of what he had on his gun he was charged because he shot a kid who wasn't a threat at the time.

[@williamgrissom1995]

Great video! I haven't felt a need to change anything on my second Gen CZ P-10c, and after hearing this, I'm so glad I didn't. But I wish I could afford a good lawyer in case that horrible need to defend myself or others ever happens.

[@RealHankShill]

Get insurance, thats what its there for

[@1guncrazy1]

Almost bought a PT-10C for that reason. Out of the box, the trigger was smooth as butter and the reset was instantaneous. I hear they aren't produced anymore, which is sad

[@williamgrissom1995]

@@1guncrazy1 they still make the CZ P-10c.

[@kylewood8327]

Excellent listen, me personally, I never change the stock trigger. YOU learn to shoot whatcha got, good! Obviously what we heard here proves it can/could save you jail time and millions of dollars

[@jnick1909]

If you have a good self defense case, you will likely never be charged. If you do get arrested and the prosecutor is resorting to how your gun looks, and they type of ammo you used, etc. They are pretty desperate. Think about it, why would punisher skulls on your gun matter to anyone if someone broke into your home and threatened you? Reminds me of the Rittenhouse trial. That case was obviously self defense and the prosecution was desperate. At one point they were chastising Rittenhouse for using FMJ ammo and his basic response was he didn't really know much about ammo, ammo is ammo to him. Needless to say, he was acquitted of all charges.

[@kylewood8327]

@@jnick1909 all sounds good and logical to us but you and I know even if living in a pro 2nd amendment state (some) DA’s are not 2A friendly and will spin there side of the story any way possible to get you convicted. Why give them anymore possible reasons to get you convicted?

[@jnick1909]

@@kylewood8327 I hear what you're saying but where's the data on this? Can you find me how many cases where people were convicted based on how their gun performed and looked vs the case itself just being a bad or imperfect self defense case ?

[@kylewood8327]

@@jnick1909 This isn’t a debate about I’m right and you’re wrong.

[@jnick1909]

@@kylewood8327 I'm not necessarily saying that, but I think having data points vs. just anecdotal stories is a better bet. All I'm saying is if you are wanting that apex trigger, or whatever upgrade you want, don't be afraid not to get it because of a situation like that. Attorneys can say anything. You can also respond by saying I got it because it makes me more accurate, it looks cool, or I've got diminished hand muscles and it's easier for me to shoot, etc. etc. If your attorney is worth their salt, I'm not even sure how arguing about how your gun looked or the trigger pull is even relevant to bring up, and not subject to an objection. Relevance and prejudicial?

[@jrmorrisjr1471]

Can I just carry Mas instead?

[@possumpopper89]

I have 2 hi power pistols and both had the magazine disconnects removed when I got them. I don’t carry them but Intake them to the range a few times per year. They have 4.5-5 pound triggers.

[@shortyberg1425]

Great informative video.. Massad and John know their Shit ! Well done again and thanks for the information 👍🙏

[@ChristopherAlexander22]

Any body have a link for the case he spoke about at the end, Arizona vs railsberg ? I couldn't find. Thanks.

[@gator7303]

Brailsford?

[@JBNPhoto]

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver

[@allmac600]

Arizona v. Brailsford That was the case when the PD shot an unarmed and fully compliant man in a La Quinta hallway. The AR that the PD used had a dust cover with "You're fucked" written on it.

[@linwoodj004]

Yeah, I got curious and had to go look it up too. Turns out that the offensive wording and logo on his rifle was motivation for the prosecutor to bring charges. Judge did not allow that “evidence” into the trial. www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/mesa/2017/09/08/profane-etching-ex-mesa-officer-phillip-mitch-brailsford-gun-inadmissible-daniel-shaver-murder-trial/648709001/

[@jthrelf]

@@allmac600 that was also a ridiculously unjustified shooting

[@kayakdog121]

Massads's voice makes my dishes rattle in the kitchen.

[@SigAXG320]

Really informative-- really appreciate listening to Massad. I recently went through a reputable place in CZ Custom to smooth out my triggers on my p-07 and p-01 omega models. With the swapped out hammer and recoil springs, the DA weight came down to about 7.75 lbs, and the SA pull is now 3.5-3.75 lbs. The did some polishing as well. The trigger is much smoother on the p-07 than on the p-01. It makes me wonder if I'm at risk having modified them after watching this video, if the 'standard' is considered 4 lbs for any striker fired or SA gun pull, even though I went through a place who modifies thousands of CZ's for both competition as well as personal defense.

[@katweirdman9817]

Can we have a link to the Arizona case in reference? Or atleast a written title i couldnt quite catch the defendants name

[@Timboykee]

google: arizona vs officer brailsford

[@valravn126]

@@Timboykee Only thing I can find is a officer who shot and killed a drunk man, has nothing to due with his points of not using stupid ammo/guns/decals.

[@scottrhodig2244]

@@valravn126 Brailsford had "F you" inscribed on the dust cover of his AR

[@truecrimson1]

​@@valravn126 "An internal investigation report revealed that Brailsford had violated department weapon policy by engraving his patrol rifle with the phrases "You're fucked" and "Molon labe" (a Greek expression meaning "come and take them").[28]" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver

[@jayzenitram9621]

Well, using that case as a reference actually contradicts the point of this video since the cop that murdered Daniel Shaver got off.

[@JoRocket77]

Loved this. Very useful information.

[@cheeng1]

Good info Massad & ASP

[@dookfields2362]

Damn even John was silent and absorbing Massad the GOAT

[@doddgarger6806]

My 3.5lb Glock 17 drop in makes me more accurate and less likely to miss, I'd rather be alive and sued since I don't have squat besides a bunch of guns anyway

[@Snubrevolver]

3.5 pounds is highly unnecessary. Don't underestimate the justice system. It could destroy your entire life and render you penniless.

[@gvi341984]

You will not be sued only -prison time -possible death penalty depending on date -media attention -prison rape

[@doddgarger6806]

@@Snubrevolver the single action trigger on my g2c is about 3.5 from the factory... So is the g3...

[@KenpoBill]

Great information.

[@laughingatjeffisencouraged1975]

John Moses Browning may be long gone but the next best thing is Massad Ayoob. Thank you both for the information. You don't have to agree with everything that is said but if you disagree I suggest you do more research.

[@Jb429421]

Did Mr. Ayoob show you the back up revolver in his pocket?🤔

[@loganhoy2265]

Lol you noticed the left hand too, huh?

[@alwong604]

Willing to bet Mr. Ayoob also has nice ankle jewelry? The man is BOSS!

[@justaguy427]

ASP... this is your best type of content. Great job.

[@johnhalpin1847]

I discussed this with the local DA and basically if you intend to shoot the person in a self defense situation the modification of the trigger is mute , however if you carelessly or negligently fire the firearm and someone is injured or killed then you'd be liable. Basically if you shoot someone make sure you are able to articulate the facts justifying the firing of the firearm in self defensive. The law here states if justified according to the law you can not be criminally charged or civilly sued. #2 As long as it's justifiable and intentional weight is not an issue, you made it smoother, more trigger control to make sure I don't hit an unintended target by being able to keep my sights properly aligned as I pull the trigger in self defense.

[@richardefriend]

Thank you for this timely and informative video. No trigger upgrades for me now. Reminds me of the old joke: What do you call a thousand lawyers lying dead on the ocean floor? A good start. And what's the difference between a dead skunk lying in the middle of the road and a dead lawyer lying in the middle of the road? There are skid-marks in front of the skunk. Want 1 more? What's the difference between a lawyer and a catfish? One's a scum sucking bottom feeder. The other's a fish. Finally, there's the standard definition lawyers have for a jury: 12 individuals not smart enough to get off jury duty. Kinda all fits with the central core of your video.

[@JugglesGrenades]

The trigger pull on my 1911 has been modified. It is one pound HEAVIER than stock. It has 1/32 inch "slack" or take up, then breaks crisply at 5 pounds.

[@jackmehof247]

Guess I won’t ever be using my g43 with the backplate that says f around and find out 😢

[@urbantreesteve2805]

Great video...Slow is smooth and smooth is fast

[@ccarper9660]

I have one question. What if you meant to put the bullet/bullets in a home Invaders chest and didn't try to say the gun accidentally went off? Maybe I missed something but all I heard was negligence and if I did then I apologise. There's no negligence in defending your life and what if the closest thing to you is your competition rig? My edc is either a stock p365 or hellcat so I'm not a hater just asking a solid question.

[@jamesquinn5281]

I've had a Zev Tech in my G19 for about 10 years. Carry it every day, have put about 10k rounds through the gun with no problems (maybe 20 malfunctions). The improvement in my shooting is worth any very low (less than .2% of chance) chance of malfunction.

[@silvermountainman2562]

Wow … knowledge bombs dropin left and right. I think I’m gonna have to watch this again, to make sure I caught them all … 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@dano1956]

Massad is the man. ACLDN Member

[@arthurb8631]

Thank you

[@Aonghuis]

Heck Mas could host Coast to Coast, even Art Bell would listen from beyond the grave. Talk about a voice made for radio.

[@jeffainsworth362]

Great information, excellent video!

[@AusyG]

Dang that just made it click. "Don't worry about a light trigger pull, but a smooth trigger pull" I've shot many revolvers that weren't quite there on the trigger but were incredibly light. Whereas I've shot many Glocks that have that 5-7 lb range that was smooth and crisp break.

[@KMondy]

That is a pot of GOLD for information! Thank you!

[@eugeneharrelson3933]

Great info and discussion. Thank you

[@eronfitz]

I’m curious how a jury will react to an Apex duty/carry trigger kit in a M&P shield with a manual safety?

[@sheepdogoutdoors7006]

Thank you for this. I was considering removing the manual thumb safety from my training gun to test whether or not I like it better as I have been having to train to not activate it upon drawing because of how high my grip is. This advice makes me realize that may not be ideal.

[@RicArmstrong]

Next time, just buy a pistol without a safety.

[@michaeldoe4805]

We are living in the golden era of firearms, so many options of styles and calibers, with a little patience one can find the almost perfect fitting carry gun and not have to modify it to be workable... (Maybe some grip tape and painted sights)

[@sheepdogoutdoors7006]

@@RicArmstrong That wasn't my option at the time but thanks for the obvious random internet stranger.

[@sheepdogoutdoors7006]

@@michaeldoe4805 grip tape and different sights are def in the future for my carry gun and as I told ricochet a better firearm wasnt available to me at the time but what I have was my choice at the time all things considered and Ive trained to be proficient with it despite its operational features. As per the patience part that was also not on my side when I purchased this fire arm but I do agree if possible waiting to find a firearm that fits you best will always be best but I also firmly believe that something is better than nothing especially if you have the skills to operate it. Attitude,skills,plan. -the cobra king himself

[@TheColonelJJ]

That was most excellent!!! Thanks!