I Bought This $12,000 UTV For $2,200. How Bad Could It Be? (HUGE RISK)

[@MatthewSmith-to1hz]

Assembled in the US means: 1. Bolt on roll cage 2. Fill crank case 3. Fill gas tank 4. Put wheels on That's it

[@gman77gas]

"China"😅

[@thebigguy8306]

🤣🤣Texas is to the US what Mexico and SE Asia (China, Taiwan, Korea) are to the rest of the world

[@Slutparm]

So just like Ford and GM😂

[@jeffgoodrich643]

Was just about to post the same comment. It's like "real fruit juice" drinks and "USA beef"(imported)

[@martinwidmer5961]

How many percent of the value add would trhat be?

[@palcolandcattle4259]

I'm guessing the head and cylinder might be slightly warped. It wouldn't hurt to take some 600 grit wet sandpaper on a plate of glass and do a figure 8 pattern with the cylinder and head to make sure they are good.

[@vettepicking]

400 or 320gr is ok

[@AnthonyRBlacker]

Joe I would TOTALLY put an electric water pump in there. There were some comments about that already that I read about that being viable.. forget about splitting the case, replacing it and 600 miles later it blows again.. nah, screw that!

[@wesleyblanton2432]

I was going to come to the comments and ask if You could just put A electric water pump in. You answered my question.

[@CLPRPSD]

Might be a good, worthwhile investment to buy yourself a good reference tool for checking flatness of heads etc. If that engine has overheated, it would be worth checking the head and then wet sanding it out on a perfectly flat surface if necessary.

[@rvmonkey1669]

Definitely check to make sure the head and cylinder are not warped love your videos always look forward to them!

[@MrPerry61]

They come in a big crate, the distributor puts on the wheels, crash cage, fills the crankcase and fuel tank, and now its " Assembled in America"

[@dougaranda6187]

Yup, none of the Chinese or Korean toys are shipped with any fluids.

[@thebigguy8306]

Sounds like what the US did with 6x6 trucks in WW2. Made in Detroit (GM) and South Bend (Studebaker), disassembled, put in crates, shipped to England, Russia, and Iran, and reassembled.

[@toyhunterslasvegas]

With metric tools.😁

[@16driver16]

​@dougaranda6187 sometimes they accidentally ship them with oil... It's aweful, mess everywhere, box falls apart etc

[@susdad]

@@gpw203and the US is dumb enough to buy

[@thebigdustin]

Joe, get a borescope with a recording functionality. Preferably one with an end that articulates. Give us better views and be easier for you to see in those cramped spaces. You can also look at valves and cylinders without taking them apart. Not too expensive these days.

[@daniel_kisss]

Hey it’s been a while since I’ve been to your channel just wanted to say I love that your still making these as a passion it’s really entertaining to watch in the morning🔥

[@akawireguy1197]

It is a pleasure to watch you diagnose and repair. I have dumped channels where the owner has access to all these cars and trucks for will it start and when they get into them they flail around like a carp someone caught and threw up on the river bank. Lots of motion and flailing around and going nowhere. That drives me crazy.

[@cenccenc946]

The trick to buying Chinese stuff, is finding a good copy designed by someone else. Like a friend (an engineer) found a company making copies of German tractors in China. In fact, they apparently were next door to the orginal German tractor factory in China (probably the same chinese company). They had just added some crappy lights to the dash. He ripped those out, and had a German designed tractor that costs 1/3 the orginal.

[@SwPiotrek]

What brand this tractor is?

[@johnnybgoode6466]

The real trick is not to buy the crap at all and stick with better made stuff - that will have parts supply and resale in the future.... look at how much the UTV has lost in depreciation...

[@AnthonyRBlacker]

I don't think it's that simple, the cost is being cut somewhere, probably in the quality of the steel and wiring and all the rest. It's not JUST the engineering that goes into it, there's real value in using good metal

[@OyesGbs-f5i]

Brooo so true look at all the cloned Honda engines

[@xephael3485]

​​@@AnthonyRBlackerthe overhead in Western companies are insane... The Chinese don't have to pay some it eight figure executives a multi million dollar stock bonus each year. They can strip out a lot of the unneeded junk from the design as well. I'm not saying that the Chinese produce something which has the same amount of quality control or is good as a western produced item that's made in China with oversight... But at the end of the day the Western companies are piling on to the cost of the item! Sometimes the Western companies don't even provide any value they just take the profit. I just ordered a filter spark plugs and fuel filter for a Toro mower for 9 bucks. The Toro dealer wanted $100. They work just as good

[@Lenkan1]

Put in an electric waterpump. I did that to my scooter after the waterpump seals worn out three times. And to change it i had to split the engine every time. When it started to leak the last time i sealed the impeller with some RTV silicone and removed the chain that drives the pump. Then i put in an electric motor instead in the waterhose. Works like a charm!! No problem so far. It was about a year ago, and i drive that scooter almost every day to work.

[@gman77gas]

Great idea

[@jakeowens1770]

Factory racing Yamaha replaced their water pumps with electric a few years ago. If it's good enough for them???

[@navigatorx1013]

excellent.

[@johnnybaker317]

Which engine is that a clone of ? It kinda looks like the Kawasaki 750 twin.

[@Slane583]

I can see what you did working quite well. In the GY6 modding community the largest big bore kit you can buy is a liquid cooled model that changes your top-end from a 2-valve to a 4-valve head. Because GY6 engines are air-cooled they don't have water pumps so for the liquid cooled jug to work they offer a electric water pump for it. I'd love to do something like that to my scoot but it's quite expensive. :)

[@Mr.SuperDuper-idk]

Just so you know I TOLERATE COMMERCIALS to support you! 😂 only channel I really make the effort.

[@scottnyc6572]

I didn’t see any commercials when watching this video.I don’t recall seeing any commercials in his other videos either.

[@Mr.SuperDuper-idk]

@@scottnyc6572 ads - commercials blah blah so cleaver

[@AnthonyRufo-py4yr]

I always like 👍 before I even finish watching the video & I've never been disappointed. Always great content on this channel.

[@canadatransistor]

i jumped when you opened the rad cap. I'm glad you were not burned.

[@gobbleknot]

Hey Joe - love your channel. I hope all is well with you guys. I haven't seen Jade or Vinny lately??? Gotta ask - how did you learn all of the stuff you do with all of these items? Wish you lived closer - I'd be giving you a holler - that's for sure! 😂 I'm 65 - just bought my first 4 wheeler 2 days ago - a 2007 Suzuki Eiger. 👍🏻

[@raimoe4512]

Amazing that they can't find an easier way to make access for such a critical part. Good job

[@bodge6886]

We have three lovely old John Deer buggies with oldest one about twenty years old now and five years ago we bought three Kubotas and they are now in far worse state than the old JDs so you get what you pay for. We have the buggies running constantly for up to 12 hours a day 360 days of the year.

[@staygold902]

New machines are like Bic lighters

[@JoeHamRadioGuy]

No thermostat 🤔hmmm Hope you can find parts for it, seems like it will be easy enough to get back in running condition. Good luck keep up the good work 👍🏼

[@scott729]

Nicely done, Joe.... I am impressed. Pretty thorough recon

[@neutonrenda2303]

Wow, I can't believe that the water pump design is so bad that you have to slit the case. I would never have thought it could be a problem with such low mileage, that's really bad. Luckily we get to watch you sort it out.👍

[@xephael3485]

It wouldn't be a water pump design... it would be the gears inside that are having an issue but we don't know yet because he hasn't got to that part of the video

[@mikeg3529]

Ive seen other versions of these cheap side by sides at tractor supply, a cheaper version with a single cylinder engine.... One thing I found interesting is how the engine on the one I looked over, looked as if it was retrofitted with liquid cooling after the fact. Like, it looks like they took an engine thats normally air cooled and just installed a different cylinder and head on to it. This is probably exactly what they did to save costs. Instead of designing something new, they took a design they already had and just slapped some improvements to it so it could be used in a side by side lol.

[@willmc42]

Kawasaki mules were terrible for dealer assembled issues, overheating and blowing head gasket usually on the 1st or 2nd time they were driven. It was usually a air pocket in the cooling system, dealership employees being untrained mechanics, usually the salesman who have zero mechanical experience putting the peripheral components on before selling to unsuspecting buyers. The warranty division had to repair or replace a lot of engine before they revised the cooling system assembly process. This is probably a copy of the original, with a buyer doing the final assembly.

[@jameshedrick605]

Kind of funny seeing you work on that. I'm working on the same one for a friend replacing wheel bearings and control arm bushings

[@hardluckvintagegarage6968]

I have a friend that does engine work on UTV's for motorcycle shops. The mechanics hate to work on them. The engine is placed perfectly so that everything will have you bent over with your arms outstretched. Your lower back will get ruined working on them. Motorcycles are just easier on your body.

[@scottnyc6572]

That Mess-imo looks like the mileage is actually only 77.7 miles on it not seven hundred and seventy seven.There appeared to be a gap between the last two sevens,i may be mistaken though. “Assembled”,”Designed”,”Engineered” in the USA is how many foreign manufacturers try to mislead consumers looking for American made products.The “made in the USA” label is highly regarded as you know.Don’t get thrown off by made in “America” either.Made in the USA 🇺🇸 means a certain percentage of American made components have to be manufactured in the USA to meet the standards for the Made in USA label.Looking forward to seeing your next video.

[@ionracer3284]

U can have a leaky head gasket where its just blowing compression into the cooling system and not mix with the oil. I see it in cars all the time. Just depends on where the gasket fails

[@gregmcclure2640]

At this point I agree with your diagnosis! Good job!

[@Troy-f2h]

Nice find youre smarts are paying off with some labor and some money you got this great job

[@DJJDSKREWED]

Id open that port hole with the 3 10m bolts holding it on above that water pump you might be able to see that gear from that hole.

[@kenjohnson5498]

The funniest description i read about Massimo UTV's was it was a fusion of Texas with Chinese flavors in the end.

[@columbiaindieband4717]

Like adding noodles on a steak 😂

[@twintwo1429]

Excellent videoes. Great camera work. Methodical. Allows us to keep track of whats going on and why. Hope you well in the future.

[@BlairGuinea]

Good one Joe...............you are the Master, thank you for your time

[@johnhicks735]

Joe check the thermostat first and coolant level to. I think the thermostat isn't opening and closing properly myself.,or is has air in the system.,or just really low to almost empty on coolant due to the overheating issues it had after changing the crankcase positioning sensor on it already to.

[@jimdriscoll9404]

I think with it building that much pressure instantly it is probably a blown head gasket and or warped head. First thing to do is to check for milky looking oil on the dipstick.

[@rickcleaver4697]

Wow! I am impressed with your systematic approach. Bummer tho. Dig dig dig!

[@Steve-MN]

Love your videos. I've learned a ton from them. Many cars, motorcycles, and ATVs are assembled in the US in the same way. There is good and bad, though.

[@deliveryguy7402]

My favorite part is watching you ride these things after the repair. Also like Vinny.

[@fordteebird]

Hey Joe. Great video as usual. Very optimistic of them by putting a 6 digit odometer on these!?!?

[@862057]

That loose head bolt was due to running it with a bad head gasket. For some reason the bolt will feel loose when disassembling in the area that the gasket was blown.

[@johnhicks735]

Change both head gaskets Joe and the water pump and thermostat on it trust me. I recommend you checking out the water pump also very good for bad impeller yes due to water pump is shot.

[@andrewchild1592]

Where do you advertise your vehicles....I would definitely buy one from you 👍

[@keithmon1234]

Head gasket or gaskets gone. No thermostat because it was overheating so previous owner took it out. Nice shiny part of piston on 1st one removed as it was getting steam cleaned. Head(s) warped need skimmed possibly. You should buy a leak down kit then you could diagnose before you take everything to pieces.

[@nickgruber2593]

For new money I would buy a Polaris ranger 10 out of 10 times. For $2k not bad. Love the content as always. Joe I would love to see a Suzuki Lt80 on here one day You going through one would be great because there isn’t really any good videos on how to diagnose and fix one

[@Kev-N42000]

Someone brought a Hisun 700 into the local scrapyard to be crushed , I picked it up for $250 it had 2000km, the cam bolts had fallen out, I put a new cam and chain and it’s been running great lol, seems to be pretty decent, single cylinder

[@joshballou8432]

"That does not sound good... hahaha" got me cracking up.😂 4:53

[@wreckum56]

Was that a heli coil in the crank sensor hold down bolt hole?

[@beachthor1]

What does he mean when he said the coolant washed out the rings on Piston #2? How can coolant do that to piston rings? 20:53

[@jmj267]

Don't let Vinnie get to that coolant. A neighbor maybe.LOL. Great job Joe. I'll wait to see part 2. I would also say edit this one as part 1 .

[@jl4091]

I love the UTV content.Thanks Joe

[@paule4696]

I had a Cadillac Northstar that did something similar. The geniuses at GM put iron Head bolts into an aluminum head. I guess they never heard of Cathodic Corrosion. Anyway the bolt would lose torque as the head corroded. The engine would idle just fine but under a load it would put exhaust gasses into the cooling system causing it to overheat. It would build that pressure. It didn't really burn the coolant. The exhaust gasses would just purge the cooling system.

[@ozhoo]

Pretty sure that that's a rebranded Hisun HS800. Plenty of available parts. Check ODES as well.

[@airmailman1971]

I know that some Honda UTV's can be adapted to take a Harbor Freight engine. Would this one be suitable for that?

[@murrayoguinn5923]

Have you tried the prius electric waterpump fix? I am in the process right now. waiting on the 04 to09 toyota prius power inverter cooling pump to come in the mail. 35.00ish fix. hope it works..

[@johnhicks735]

It's A combination of all three things most likely. I highly recommend checking the water pump and thermostat to along with changing the head gasket to Joe. It's the water pump not working right then.

[@johnhicks735]

Check the impeller ⚙️ gear.,an the thermostat might need to be replaced in it to.

[@PoooShooo]

Tesla wheels. i love the in depth i really appreciate the time taken. the little things mean a lot.

[@everythingateds2350]

If the head or head gasket is leaking on the exhaust side you will not necessarily get water in the coolant. You will getl exhaust gasses in the coolant though and a lot of pressure

[@chrislyons649]

Ebay has the chain tensioner you need along with the gaskets there reasonable on price good luck buddy.

[@stkyfngrszmooth]

To do it right, you should've had the heads pressure checked and milled. Especially since it was overheated more than once.

[@richardb8492]

There is a thermostat but it is not in the thermostat housing. Page 266 of the manual shows it farther down the outlet close to the cylinder head. They don’t call it a thermostat in the manual it is called ‘Save Temperature’ and it’s attached to the ‘water outlet connector, cylinder’.

[@greathornedowl3644]

When if anyone, YOU should have known better. Putting your knowledge and patience to the test. Lots of learning moments, even if what not to do.

[@johnhicks735]

I'd try getting the metal.,or aluminum ⚙️ gear water pump assembly online to. If one is available for that engine possibly.

[@bryankerr69]

The one thing nice about those Side by Sides Is that they come with turn signals and everything to make them road legal. All Side by Sides should come that way standard. You would think that the big companies would get the hint.

[@chrisanderson4799]

What’s sketch is how you tied it down. Go through the rims as a 1st choice or over the axles as a 2nd choice. If you hit a bump the suspension will compress and the straps come off or snap. Seen it happen dozens of times.

[@jsvallee567]

i remember that (wilderness brand atv )they were selling at canadian tire back in the days ! pretty much the same quality you got with that utv

[@alanblenkinsop2775]

Joe in the u k we have a solution called quick steel it cures blown head gaskets I have used it many times and is very effective mate still loving the content as usual 👍

[@jeno6969]

Any chance to use an electrical water pump? Because when it's a problem in the design, a new gear driven water pump won't fix it for long.

[@Peanut_butter_banana]

That’s the best tie down job I’ve ever seen!

[@DesmondBorcherds]

Hyosung Corporation is a South Korean industrial chaebol, founded in 1966.

[@johnhicks735]

Joe check the crank positioning sensor again.,an thermostat and the temperature sensor. I'd check the water pump and impeller ⚙️ gear. Cause the water pump could've went out on that.,or A worn out rubber impeller and bent out of shape now to.

[@18wheeler77]

56:58 awesome video. Bummer you have to remove the engine. You should get an engine hoist.

[@mikga45]

Blown head gasket? Mixing fuel and water. Check thermostat and water pump also.

[@ThatGuy_Hunter]

Just because there is no mixing in the case doesn’t mean it can’t be a failed head gasket. There’s combustion chamber leaks, external leaks, passage leaks. You have an external leaks and a combustion wreak

[@WaRn00b85]

Brother! 2x little 8mm bolts to keep the seats in. That's wild. Hahahaha

[@user-cl5ov9dx5o]

HEAD GASKET VALVE PROBLEMS...Pressure building from head gasket leak...only milky if oil passageway is part of head gasket blown.

[@MusicSensations1971]

Hey Joe instead of taking the engine out and splitting the cases why don't you see if you could bypass the water pump with an external one and plumbing all the radiator hoses

[@monsterkxf]

Whats the news on the garage build? 🤘🤘

[@bencameron4153]

Yes! I want to know also! He needs the extra space for working on his project!

[@neutonrenda2303]

I've had a Jetta blow the cylinder head gasket and not get the oil milky. It was blown from the cylinder to a water jacket and would push all the water out, but no water contaminated the oil at all. It ended up being a cracked cylinder head.👍

[@jodyferguson3068]

It's like a box of chocolates you never know what you're going to get great analysis on motor hopefully it won't cost very much to fix hell of a lot of work

[@SwPiotrek]

What happened to previous UTV that ate it's piston? Did you repair it or sold as it was?

[@benschlack5814]

You need a new head and cylinder I just did a cub cadet 750 hi song motor, over heating, tried everything just go on eagle bay and spend the money it's about 800$ for the whole kit. A very common problem on those junk boxes

[@eagle777dh]

Did you watch the video? Head and cylinders looked fine. If he checks them and they are still flat there is no reason to replace them.

[@benschlack5814]

@@eagle777dh I don't understand how people are so fn stupid 😂😂😂

[@laurencehastings7473]

Great systematic diagnosis to source the origin of the fault.

[@billstigliano5700]

I just have to ask you why you never pressure wash your machined before you start working on them? I've been doing repairs for years and I HAVE to have my stuff clean before I tear into them. It's saves the risk of debris getting where it shouldn't be. Just asking because it drives me crazy

[@yellowduck104]

The hi sun motor is just fine we got a utility hi sun and it's a beast not fast but with a nice locker in it goes anywhere and hauls a shit ton you got a work mule not a race horse no what u got

[@dinosaur6756]

Like buying anything Chinese made from a chainsaw to a motor scooter, you pretty much have to disassemble them and go through everything before they work properly. Even if they are brand new. Plan on upgrading a bunch of parts.

[@johnhicks735]

I know of another way to change out the plastic nylon ⚙️ gear from plastic to aluminum.,or metal of some sort is order in the nylon one and take it to A local machine shop to have A different one made for it. I'd get A few of them made.,an have them make A copy pattern to keep their selves for making some side cash flow to.

[@kevinim300]

just a blind guess at this point - but could metal gears be better instead? depending whats stripped i suppose.

[@ジョシュアコーエン]

ok, dumb question from a neewbie gearhead: where do you put all the screws, bolts, and hardware when you remove them so you know how to reassemble stuff? I mean outside of the completely obvious.

[@walk4718]

Your weariness with this one is very apparent 👍

[@cyclepilot2]

Joe. What happened to that cub cadet UTV you had a while back. Were you able to fix it ?

[@markhoward9936]

What do you do with the machines that you fix?

[@shawnandcoraself7321]

Have you repaired any cfmoto products. What's your thoughts?

[@MPulicci78]

Wow went from 15 comments to 141 in less than a minute…. Joe, what happened to the Kawasaki SxS you pulled the motor from.. did you ever make a video of you finishing it?

[@LEE-jj4yk]

Joel a lot of these type engines we’re done with super crappie head gasket \gaskets in general made too a budget

[@shedenvy691]

I have not watched the whole video yet but if the head gasket is blown and your getting coolant into the combustion chamber you will burn coolant and get exhaust gases in the coolant system causing overheat without yhe oil and coolant mixing so no milky oil.

[@RonaldAlmon-hv7jw]

thanks for the great vidz ...fun watching keep up the great vidz

[@jeffreytodaro5269]

Great video, good lord you have a lot of patience, keep up the Awesome work thanks for sharing waiting on part 2 . Peace Turtle

[@jasonjavelin]

You know when 2vintage picks up a UTV is gonna be interesting!!!

[@charlesmccoy2087]

Pull the timing chain tight to see if the pump grabs then

[@RATADATUAVELHA]

every quad of that type is a pita for you...but very interesting for us. 😎