August and company! I don't think I can describe how appreciative I am for all the content you guys create. I've been climbing for 3 years now and, not to brag but, I've had seasoned professionals (20+ years experience) compliment my climbing style and proficiency in the tree. I would like to personally thank all of you for the seemingly limitless amount of information you put out there for others to learn/ take advice from/ emulate. Many thanks guys. Someday, I'd like to shake hands with you all. Peace be the journey.
@ItsFishh3 жыл бұрын
I felt like i needed safety glasses just watching this 😂 Great video
@leifvejby80233 жыл бұрын
Not me, got a screen made of Gorillaglass!
@ImCruise3 ай бұрын
i flinched after the first test lol
@marshalltjones3 жыл бұрын
I'm a metallurgist. I'm not surprised that the aluminum body broke before the swivel. The swivel is steel, has easily twice the strength of the aluminum. High strength Aluminum like that which would be used in the body also has limited ductility (
@AugustHunicke3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@falfield2 жыл бұрын
Yes, good comment - and in addition, the force of the ball (which pushed the casing apart to break it) was acting as would a wedge, and so was being increased.
@Cam-fz1if2 жыл бұрын
Is the swivel definitely steel? Looked close at mine and it looks like aluminium to me..
@gregoryensminger44103 жыл бұрын
I use my zigzag quite often and after watching this video I have a lot more confidence in it now! Thanks
@iannewman20ify2 жыл бұрын
I wasn't even going to watch thr video 😂😂 didn't want a bad thought in my mind but I will now cheers 👍
@jimhubbell83643 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Your comments about the relative pros and cons of the different devices and hitches are very helpful as well.
@user-rt6tj4kt8e2 жыл бұрын
Seen the title, I was like ahh shit, now I gotta throw out my zigzag. Watch the video and am now happy with my bomb proof zig zag. Awesome video
@j.debolt2 жыл бұрын
I've had a couple zig zags for probably the last 8yrs., been climbing on the unicender for years now but after watching this vid a time back, I broke out the zig zag and absolutely love it for drt/drs, not so much for srt/srs... thank you, cause of this video I feel fully confident in this device now and moving thru the trees easier then ever.😀
@betternfred3 жыл бұрын
Most entertaining break test I have ever watched. Thank you!
@brianmerkerson24143 жыл бұрын
Richard Mumford also does some great videos on breaking strength of different gear
@1975dbryant2 жыл бұрын
After witnessing these experiments, I am obliged to say, I am proud to be an owner of the "ZIGZAG PLUS". Thank you Petzl and Thank you August👏❤🇺🇸😉😁👌
@raestipher9789 Жыл бұрын
🎉Thank you
@terrycahhal58973 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I always had confidence in mine. But it’s nice to see it was well placed.
@shawnablake51023 жыл бұрын
You got me. I thought you fell. I was like, Really? The Monkey Beaver fell? Nope! Glad you're still alive and well.
@cayman98732 жыл бұрын
Its the guy on the phone that feeds your line in the chipper that will hurt you.
@ButterBallTheOpossum3 жыл бұрын
I'd imagine it's probably designed to slip in order to absorb a little bit of energy in case of a high fall and sudden stop.
@benjamindaigneault9436 Жыл бұрын
Slips at 2000 pounds in drt, if you fall and have it slip, you probably won't feel good, ☠️
@lindaarbogast64993 жыл бұрын
Wow the zigzag was stronger than expected. The rest was a surprise! Didn’t expect it to tear so quickly!
@SolidStateH2O3 жыл бұрын
Cool thing about the engineering behind it…if intentional or not. It slips at the point that a fall and sudden stop would over G and hurt you. It slips and slows you down before coming up tight! 👍
@christopherderycke36033 жыл бұрын
I’ve used the little zigzag for about 8 years. Not the same one but love it. That’s a reassuring test
@letsdomake2 жыл бұрын
Me, too, man. I've been staring at that little shaft (stop laughing) for years, wondering if it's going to kill me. I heart my zig zag. I actually bought the one w/o the swivel when it came out, but had I seen your video.... Cheers from San Juan Island.
@420fro13 жыл бұрын
Please do a side load under tension on the links . As if u cross loaded them going around a limb. And with the chicane please cross loadings going over a limb. U guys are amazing.
@osagejon89723 жыл бұрын
And to think the first time I used my zigzag I had a blakes hitch above it because i wasn't so sure of its integrity.
@wilsontv45782 жыл бұрын
Hey August loved the vid. I’m pretty curious how much load the prusik hitch can handle and maybe different variant hitches knots have more load or start to slip. Would love to see it!
@timberhitchllc2 жыл бұрын
See Richard Mumford's channel. He has performed exhaustive testing on tree service specific knots, ropes, and spilces. Also check out HowNOT2 for all sorts of other climbing gear strength and break testing.
@jarodshaw7483 жыл бұрын
I've got one of those "little" zig zags. I wouldn't give it up.
@dukeflem3 жыл бұрын
I've always liked the ZigZag while climbing but I like the way you can put the Unicender on anywhere on the rope.
@joshuasoom7960 Жыл бұрын
i just picked up my first petzl zigzag because of you and i freaking love it!!!! this definitely solidifies my decision was the correct choice
@HiLineTree3 жыл бұрын
That zig zag is impressive. Nice work on the test👍
@shanesouza43033 жыл бұрын
I have the same older model w/o chesty hole that comes on the plus. Knowing its rated to near climb line inspires alot of confidence.😁 So ummm ya. After testing that old zigzag, are you sure you want to switch to the uni? 😆
@javoncarroll17014 ай бұрын
I'm always a little nervous using my Zigzag....but now I'm like I'm Good. Damn the old ones are the size of the Zillion. Dope video Bro and this I'm sure Answered a lot of questions of a lot of people 💯
@briananderson6758 Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty old school, did tree trimming in my teens and early twenties, then I got into lineman apprenticeship. We do a lot of crazy rigging still in our trade. Do these “mechanical hitches” ever fail involving injury? Do they clog up with sap or bark/chip debris? I’m just so use to my knots.
@stevebrough3043 жыл бұрын
These tests are always cool and interesting. Plus you can write off whatever you test. Your accountant will make use of this information. Nice to see the Monkey Beaver staff in action. Is that Esmeralda laughing in the background lol Laughter is contagious, keep it flowing...
@AugustHunicke3 жыл бұрын
Love her laugh
@adambowhuntz2 жыл бұрын
Bought one a year ago, thanks for the reassurance video on strength of the zig zag
@jackberdine3 жыл бұрын
I like that the new zig zag is bigger.
@angryjay06 Жыл бұрын
August ,what rope do you feel works best with the ZigZag
@Billster19553 жыл бұрын
Well that test was interesting. The Zigzag was tougher than I thought it might be. I can't wait to see you make some videos with the Unicender. Is your new Unicender going to have the new drum and wear plate? I saw it in one of Richard Mumford's videos back in May. It looks fantastic now.
@kevinbprice74483 жыл бұрын
Ditto, the zigzag always looked fragile to me compared to the Uni. I have 3 and have never had any issues - just get them rebuilt when they start to show signs of wear.
@jaredeberly9724 Жыл бұрын
Update: he doesn’t use a unicender
@Michael-qj4vj2 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to side load the links and see what they can take?
@craigmize43953 жыл бұрын
The CC was there on this vid. , I figured it was a Utube thing because its inconsistent on the other channels I watch , Love the new strength test machine !
@birdisinfire2 жыл бұрын
So glad you made a video, I’m gonna give my v2 zigzag 5 more years 😂😂
@terravitamantenimiento572 жыл бұрын
Thank You for that breaking video. I can see the limits now.👌
@billyshumate8533 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Stronger than what people said. Take care and GOD BLESS and I'll see you on your next vidja.
@alancanfield59792 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting my mind at ease..
@alancanfield59792 жыл бұрын
I love my zig zag..
@danpowell37503 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you've seen the test videos out there but I saw one roughly two years ago where they did a break test on the zigzag. I think I have it bookmarked on KZbin. Anyway it blew out exactly like yours did. The swivel ball blew out the side of the aluminum side plate. So from what I'm seeing it's pretty consistently the weakest part of the zig zag in a straight line pull.
@InDisTREETV3 жыл бұрын
I am definitely more fond of the older smaller zigzag but only for SRT...now that it has some wear and tear it have purchased the Zigzag plus and I never use it ....bigger isn't always better Awesome video gentlemen
@thecanopyclimber2 жыл бұрын
13:12 hahahaha "we'll trying pulling you through there and see...". great test. really helping me with my pro/con list! be safe y'all.
@Kdot_osrs Жыл бұрын
I’ve have my old zig zag a few years and my links are crack. Probably about 4 of them with minor loading. I still use it and it’s fine. Just some slippage from time to time probably from my rope getting worn.
@williamsolomon1307 Жыл бұрын
LMAO! “Tomorrow, we’re gonna break the links.” HahahahahHaha! Thank you for breaking the old zigzag August. I’ll feel better climbing with the new one, tomorrow.
@dastock13 жыл бұрын
Have you tried the Notch Rope Runner pn 51420
@erlendgreulichfrontierbigw2182 жыл бұрын
Most tests never test the zig in srt w/out the tether system…great to know, really. The 2019 has more room for the swivel in that configuration (steep angles) without pressing against the alu housing…in essence the zig used this way turns a static line into a dynamic one per se in case of a fall. Very informative- and what I am saying here is in no way suggestive…thanks all
@sinelocum Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Certainly inspires confidence in the equipment. It would be interesting to see the zigzag offered in case hardened stainless with metal-on-metal components treated with RF-85. Perhaps made in a smaller size for smaller diameter ropes, or the same size, but for rescue scenarios with multiple people on the same rope. I’m not suggesting Petzl R&D a new product - just thinking about the metallurgy and the physics in play.
@TheKde258 ай бұрын
I would love to see how much weight the zigzag would hole without a knot at the end of the links. Can you not a do a test of one, as its supposed to be used DRT??
@sukaschultz Жыл бұрын
can we take a moment to appreciate the zig zag,,,, and how you guys were putting your fingers in a metal hand slicer with 2500 lbs on it... that was balls
@hickshickory3482 Жыл бұрын
August I’m a traditional prison climber and I do use a zigzag but looking at the swivel when I’m 80+feet up u know can feel sketchy but this video put some fears to rest the petzel is damn strong brother ty
@danielhepp5413 жыл бұрын
I love your tester Did you guys build it if so did you do a a build video what strain gage is being used that talks to your phone really want to see more of the tool
@AugustHunicke3 жыл бұрын
More to come. There are other videos on the MonkeyBeaver YT channel.
@zlinky11132 жыл бұрын
Brilliant Video! 😄😄😄
@nico_albrecht2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this interesting experiment. 😅👍
@HerrAhl2 жыл бұрын
Please make a breaking test on a quicke 🙏🏻
@Justatreecutter3 жыл бұрын
Peace be with you August and with your house.
@blakegraham39572 жыл бұрын
Because you've tied the knot at the base of the link stack, you're only testing the MBS between the knot contact point (bottom link) and the anchor point on the winch side. The fact the rope slips through the linkage prior to breaking anything makes further testing unnecessary, however if you wanted to find the true weakest point of the ENTIRE mechanism you would need to pull from the absolute top and bottom of the device. Great test tho!!!! Thanks for the sacrifice lol :)
@cvictor19833 жыл бұрын
Q:what rope works best with zigzag?
@BG-vq9fd3 жыл бұрын
I am glade your title said you were ok.
@mariomannelli9887 Жыл бұрын
Amazing bro!
@travisdadson44482 жыл бұрын
So reassuring I’ve been on the same zig for about 4 years was questioning it lately. Solved
@alfadoofus3 жыл бұрын
also you might wipe the glass cover down and a couple of led light strips dimmable might help.
@jamesford92222 жыл бұрын
I currently have the latest zigzag. If you don’t mind me asking what made you decide to go to the Unicender?
@AugustHunicke2 жыл бұрын
More versatile plus midline attachable.
@rayclark96433 жыл бұрын
OH NO...you just voided the warranty on that Zig-Zag:( LOL!
@sabarslax2 жыл бұрын
thank you for making me feel safer.
@davyoh89862 жыл бұрын
A thousand and maybe 10 thousand thank yous... Ramborista bro!
@sethhaun44403 жыл бұрын
That ball joint is what's always concerned me??not the xhain.there's nothing like goid old rope?for assurance
@christianarcos4333 Жыл бұрын
Is it ok to buy a used zigzag?
@sethhaun44403 жыл бұрын
Man I want that old one.he he hee.got the mumford drum kit ..it's much diferent wanted the reon, with the tender . seems almost better THE way it was but after one use uni was deeply scored' with out it.pine had that thing locked up in sap.but it grabs no doubt
@lynntraylor16463 жыл бұрын
How close is the actual load in worst condition with a human.
@jackberdine3 жыл бұрын
I saw a test where the links were bent and the links were actually the last thing to break. You can find it on youtube if you search it.
@Deezle_Gaming3 жыл бұрын
I really love my ZigZag for DRT work but in SRT it's just unwieldy. Love the Unicender in concept but it seems to have a couple poorly thought out design elements that have to be fixed with mods. Roperunner Pro is looking pretty nice.
@AugustHunicke3 жыл бұрын
RR No good for pitchy rope. Dealbreaker where I live.
@Deezle_Gaming3 жыл бұрын
@@AugustHunicke Yeah I'm PNW too, good point.
@pfv3462 Жыл бұрын
2 tons before it breaks! unbelievable, and without a knot in the rope it was not broken. this is indeed a safe device if used correctly, and the new one is even more robust. still nice to have looked at this test, it may not be small in size but it is safe!
@rogerbamatutz19273 жыл бұрын
That was an interesting and fun test August. Will you send it to the Maker?
@AugustHunicke3 жыл бұрын
Nah. They don’t even make that version anymore
@Daniel_4.272 жыл бұрын
So as long as your inspecting your links for cracks and there are no knots in your line it will never break only slip
@maxburgess24593 ай бұрын
Real test is the strength of a stopper knot!
@justinjones92552 жыл бұрын
Off topic but to sharpen your 1/4p Panther chain do you use a 5/32 file or do you prefer the slightly larger 3/16? Also is there a raker gauge that can be used for the chain?
@AugustHunicke2 жыл бұрын
There is a special file. Smaller than 5/32
@bumpin88332 жыл бұрын
This is an old comment. But Stihl recommends 1/8 in file for their 1/4 pitch chain. I would imagine it would be the same for the Panther chain.
@mikesr34073 жыл бұрын
Oooohhhh your going to do it like that ! I kinda want one of them pretzels dealioze ! LOL
@mikesr34073 жыл бұрын
Now I'm sold , wish I could afford 2 so u could break one ! Way cool test ! 👍👍👍
@ButterBallTheOpossum3 жыл бұрын
If you like content like this check out How Not to Highline. He break tests all kinds of equipment
@brandontreecare9542 Жыл бұрын
Hello cool vid, I actually cracked two different zig zags I was in Virginia and New Jersey, it was heating it up zipping out fast when it was cold outside not side loading
@brandontreecare9542 Жыл бұрын
Only one side of the links on one side, Petzl gave me a new one each time with ten year warranty
@darrengarlough51212 жыл бұрын
I always climbed on a lockjack sport. Any thoughts on that?
@boiledelephant3 ай бұрын
Fewer points of failure in the design, but also fewer points creating friction on the rope. I'd be interested to know as well. I suspect it wouldn't have this same slipping behaviour (and that's probably bad, because as others have pointed out, the slipping behaviour is good in a fall for reducing force extremes).
@magnumtreefalling64003 жыл бұрын
I just gave up the blakes hitch for the zigzag. Lovin it
@torbendk27773 жыл бұрын
year mee too I'm order one today
@rrssmooth66432 жыл бұрын
Lucky I never bought that one, though I did get a heads up when I was looking. Bought next generation though.
@alfadoofus3 жыл бұрын
Nice break test . how much is that new one ? a slow mo camera would make a good shot
@AugustHunicke3 жыл бұрын
It’s on my website, I don’t remember cost.
@alfadoofus3 жыл бұрын
@@AugustHunicke on the way I hope it makes it I don't know your address or why there would be a shipping fee, but oh well
@alfadoofus3 жыл бұрын
@@AugustHunicke another thought , If one of your crew has one replace the new one with theirs and test that .
@TravorAhern3 жыл бұрын
Unicender !!!!!!!!!..... Welcome to the club !
@ItsFishh3 жыл бұрын
What have i been missing lol
@markbeatty173 жыл бұрын
You guys are monkey Beaver crazy what were you trying to break next love the video
@jeffbaker36433 жыл бұрын
Can you show the dyno, this kinda does no good if we can’t see the load cell/ dyno??
@AugustHunicke3 жыл бұрын
I showed it 🤷🏼♂️
@HiLineTree3 жыл бұрын
Break a Blake’s Hitch. I’m curious because I’ve used them to hold equipment in position on a hillside. Curious 🤨 Thanks
@AugustHunicke3 жыл бұрын
I think it’ll just slip
@HiLineTree3 жыл бұрын
@@AugustHunicke I’m hopeful for that but if you could try it I would like to see at what point with a tight knot. I am going to buy some hardware after seeing your test. Thanks. Appreciate the video about your mom. Reminds me of my own who is no longer with us. Family is everything
@evanhooten44593 жыл бұрын
You said you're a buck60. Are you sure? I always pictured you as 6'12" and 395 lbs
@WetCoaster2 жыл бұрын
Petzl should be donating a new one for product development.
@Vic-wi2qx3 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome like the videos.
@joshpomponio29933 жыл бұрын
I liked mine before the test an really like mine now great test love the results
@imrox89052 жыл бұрын
It hurts to see them braking that zigzag I've been struggling to get one here in las Vegas 😂😂
@boywithdrone0910 ай бұрын
That's not a srt that is a bad way to climb on your Zigzag, you need the chicane for Sr t.
@manjifera2 жыл бұрын
Links must be tied end to end with rope and not through inside it.
@mfahim19953 жыл бұрын
Time to dispel all the nonsense regarding mechanicals being unsafe! Thanks August and crew for contributing to the industry. 🤙🏻 Long live mechanicals haha.
@SLOCLMBR3 жыл бұрын
'We need 32' 😆 I love it.
@NancyBryantIdeas3 жыл бұрын
I screamed, "No, a chess set would be cheaper."
@arleyvelasquez23932 жыл бұрын
Buena prueba de resistencia
@doublebitoutdooradventures2 жыл бұрын
I really like my zigzag and definitely like it more now
@jaxturner72883 жыл бұрын
Turns out, the links are the last thing you need to worry about failing as long as you use it right.