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[@SirPugger]

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[@randyz1616]

You should check skeletal wyverns there a bot in every world in full torags and a whip

[@kaydog890]

Mmm overpriced microwave meals for those allergic to Vitamin D

[@MrCazjd]

Yeh looks gross 🤮 who eats that crap?@@kaydog890

[@bigtrippy971]

hey sir pugger theres a lot of bots that have like 110+ thieving and 70ish farming 50 agility 50 combat and hp 33 construction at draynor pickpotting master farmer

[@inkboyzrell8156]

Please go to zalcano I was just doing zalcano with the rank 2 and 3 bots

[@jules6949]

that factor meal looked absolutely fucking disgusting ngl

[@Iamaguyandthat11]

”1 ticks into a staff of water” Bro he just equipped a staff

[@hulkhogan2113]

I myself 2 tick single items I'm just that slow

[@ignatiushazzard]

​@@hulkhogan2113first clicks are always a drag

[@bloomleaf8310]

I mean yes but what’s being pointed out is that there is no delay between the not appearing and the other bot equipping the staff.

[@Iamaguyandthat11]

@@bloomleaf8310What do you mean? He is standing there a good few ticks before equipping the staff

[@bloomleaf8310]

@@Iamaguyandthat11 i did get the bot wrong idk why i was thinking the streamers bot equipping it first so i guess its the one that logged in starting its movement and equipping the staff at the same time?

[@SlimStarCraft]

Imagine that, a bot killing a bot killing a bot.. good work jagex

[@bionikpulse]

inception bots

[@Jarkkopauk1917]

Fagex

[@deathpyre42]

I wonder if it's meant to be a muling method to pass loot on without trading.

[@SlimStarCraft]

for real lol@@bionikpulse

[@__Brandon__]

The botting ecosystem is pretty advanced. If it makes money somebody is botting it

[@awwitsHurts]

this game is a full meme at this point, nice jagex

[@PLmatiPL]

2024: You find out that your Best friend on OSRS is a bot.

[@kyleedwards1156]

"1 ticks 1 item" im dead

[@Destiny4Travail]

The rev bots are so high in number that it hurts my heart. Constant competition for spots... please Sir Pugger, help us.

[@scottpake3984]

They always tele out though?? So no competition for me

[@Saviorborn]

Theres also pk bots​@scottpake3984

[@TheMegatuz]

He can't. He's a reporter, not a politician.

[@lcdsoundsystem33]

they stopped teleing for me recently, they just pot up and attack the rev. if i attack them they throw on prot range and fight back, have to bring a DDS to make them tele. @@scottpake3984

[@notachance3444]

The games dead, come to terms with this and move on

[@robyn147]

Anti cheat team really have the botters shaking in their boots lol

[@RothmerGaming]

At this point i think the Anti Cheat team are Bots themselves!

[@montgomeryfortenberry]

Wait a minute, its all bots!? Always has been

[@MrCazjd]

I’ve always theorised this, they feed the g.e@@RothmerGaming

[@bum36901]

Anti cheat team is on permanent holidays

[@wassahap]

totally

[@RoxieDubbleU]

Yeah I can't even do revs anymore. After two months of fighting bots for rev spots the script owner made it where if you attack the bots three more accounts log in one will attack you after the other bot teleports and the other two bots take both revs...

[@MyNamesIris]

I can't lie, I love that the botter streaming called it "menace mode"

[@hulkhogan2113]

They have pvp bots with shit talking scripts I get so butthurt getting 1tick blood barraged while he types out 30 messages and cry emoting

[@GAMMA_AF]

Yeah, mental illness is a real trend right now

[@luke_zxy]

calling the person with 4 viewers a twitch streamer is like calling the friend who gives you a piece of gum a philanthropy hobbyist

[@sarahtasker2207]

💀 you’re not wrong

[@CaptnBeeBop]

Everyone starts someone bro cmon use your head

[@scott4361]

What else would you call them?

[@r8gg]

​@@Tomahawk-BearDid you miss the point bud

[@Squiddys]

😂

[@user-zq8hk8fb1d]

In the game NieR: Automata, robots are fighting androids without truly understanding their purpose. They mimic human behavior, even if it provides no purpose. They kill each other, and improve themselves to be better at killing each other. The resemblance here is really interesting.

[@colinmarshall6634]

I gave up the voidwaker grind on my iron because of the bots. They are EVERYWHERE in the wilderness.

[@bionikpulse]

As soon as the spooky music track comes in the video becomes so much more interesting 👽

[@financialfraternity]

if jagex banned all the bots they would only have 5-10k concurrent players at any given time. with all the bots they can claim they have 100k concurrent users and jagexs parent company can attempt to sell it for way more then its worth. the community and/or the devs need to come together and buy jagex

[@oppx9525]

God, theres more than 10k consistently bro, relax. Theres minimum 30k that are players. A good 50k are probably bots.

[@casualBob7]

that's a weird take. any respectable company would investigate bot/real player numbers before doing any business with jagex. And if jagex claims it cant "determine" if an account is a bot or a player then it's a huge red flag to the other company. Bots buy bonds, jagex profit primarily from bonds. It's that simple.

[@financialfraternity]

@@casualBob7 recently jagexs parent company the carlyle group have shown interest in outright selling the company. Theyve made comments about wanting 1bil for jagex but undisclosed private equity firms have stuck with offers around 800mil… nobody cares about the bots on this side of things. They care about the amount of dollars jagex generates.. with bots without bots who cares besides the players actually playing the game.

[@ElonDusk14]

Sir pugger doing infinitely more work than jagex when it comes to the botting problem

[@ItsOleg]

its cuz jagex need bots, 70% of the servers are filled with them and keeps the servers looking full. not beneficial for jagex to actually get rid of them at all

[@ElonDusk14]

@ItsOleg yeah forsure. I don't even mind bots that much but it's a little out of hand currently

[@dustyroflman8926]

I can assure you regardless of how bad the botting in the game seems - Jagex does way more than Pugger does

[@usernametaken3098]

all he does is talk about em?

[@watercrystals9744]

genuinely sub zero iq take lol the only reason it looks like jagex does nothing is because you don't see all the accounts that do get banned, and this is what is known as survivorship bias, and instead only see the instances where something slips through the cracks and considering botters are literally pumping out hundreds of accounts every hour, yeah no wonder there's tons that constantly slip through futhermore, most bots are using scripts which you can only get by paying for them through disc and other places like sythe, and make extensive use of machine learning and AI to better emulate how an actual player behaves and that doesn't even account for the fact that bot script devs are constantly changing their scripts to stay ahead of anything jagex can do since jagex only do bans in large waves to stop the botters from identifying what got detected in their scripts to lead to their accounts getting banned there are gaming companies that pull in 10x as much as jagex does yearly and can't solve anti-cheat, so it's not unsurprising at all that it is a massive issue in a game that is as easily manipulatable as rs is

[@defeatedskeptic311]

Hmm, the only way I could figure to scout those insta-telly world hopping slayer bots would be a custom script alert script and a lot of volunteers. If a person is in the wilderness and hops and sees someone, the script records the name and sends it to an external database. The volunteers at the GE would then have a script that checks this database against players entering there vicinity and would update the database with the most recent world they have been seen in. Moreover, if you record the sequence of worlds instead, you may be able to find a pattern. I am not sure if such a plugin would be technically legal though. On the other hand, a similar idea would be a script that records the items the bot have as they teleport away. You could then make an average gear profile for them and the walk around the GE or Ferox and see if anyone fits the bill consistently. I have to assume they are using an odd path or a rarely used teleport into the wilderness if the bot creator is so determined for them not to be tracked, so sitting at some of the less traveled entrances into the wilderness may yield some results.

[@seamusmcloughlin7150]

I mean they also have to get to the spot so if anything ud be better off if you could have a bunch accounts just on at random worlds waiting

[@abusethesun]

Or just stick an account on every world and the bot will never get to farm since it'll always see someone there

[@Doransdomain]

Easy method for the Slayer bots is to have multiple people on each world scouted out waiting for them to arrive before they even get there.

[@trevorvancamp3354]

We killed a few of the slayer bots, u have to get lucky and catch them returning back. They bug out before getting back inside to cannon.

[@netstormuk]

Good video as always, thank you Pugger.

[@dylanwalser3138]

Pugger, at this point you’re probably solely responsible for more than hundred thousand bot bans

[@LEGOkabeb]

Idea for the wilderness slayer Bots. Beat them at there own game. Have someone make a bot that logs in and switches to every world. The bots will all tele and never get any kills. Just an idea

[@Saviorborn]

Just afk bots but they'd probably be caught on to pretty quickly

[@__w__o__w__]

mindblowing that Jagex are incapable of auto-detecting such blatant botting

[@TheFBerger]

NEW BOT FARM: south east fleshcrawlers stronghold of security. 4-5 bots on every members world all wearing addy armor with either granite longsword, sara sword, or rune scim, was hopping for like an hour and didnt find any empty or any with less than 3 bots before another popped in a members worlds

[@Thewizard_ofwaz]

Surely Jagex has the anti-cheat detection software to handle this problem by now. Seems like they profit off it way too much to do anything serious about it

[@JH4RPlp]

theres accounts with 1000s of hours botted and still remain unbanned. the system needs a total overhaul

[@FunniesRS]

bond sales would plummet if they actually got rid of bots, then they'd use that as an excuse to mtx the fuck outta the game, it's a catch 22 sadly.

[@JJ49672]

Im honestly curious and would probably be upset to learn how much bots contribute to the actualy online player count in a given 100k online is it >50%?@@FunniesRS

[@watercrystals9744]

there are gaming companies that pull in 10-20x as much as jagex does yearly and can't solve anti-cheat and rs is a brainless game to be able to cheat in because of how everything runs off of predictable tick cycles, so if you seriously think this is an easily solvable issue, you genuinely must be terminally online

[@thetomnatorosrs]

there is no anti cheat software lol thats the biggest bs lie ever. They will never do something about it, because the bots pay their salaries and there are rumours that jagex is going to be sold to another company, by having the bots around they can boost their active player count for investors and potential buyers

[@toxicfox9966]

And this is why I don't go to the wildy. There's pk bots now at chaos alter. Level 100ish run in twos. No ancients only range and mage

[@DevelopedGames]

bots pking eachother and then saying sit is some crazy dystopian shit

[@Austinpowas]

2 sir pugger videos in a week? Its a miracle!

[@elexi5]

i found a lot of bots in skeletal wyverns and if you leave bones on the ground they go stand there before they see the bones

[@99huntlife33]

Unreal! Keep up the good work sir pugger never wear the uggs!

[@MrFastlaney]

next to the yanille bank if you go doen the stairs you can find lvl 80s with sara swords on almost every world

[@GotNoKarma]

It's the bot circle of life

[@SummerCherry]

I just want to say thank you so much!! Earlier this year my account was hacked to be a bot with those stupid cannon balls, you helped me get my account back!! I was signed into Apple game cloud n my account got hacked, I got it back by changing my password.

[@lucasbonzoforrest]

The worst part is that most things in the game are constructed or rigged in favour of the bot farms. Countless times where those rev bots have crazy RNG whenever they are low/out or close to a safe zone or tp timer. I have even 0 9 straight times on a bot that was afk. And lm a maxed 1 def pure. I 0 9 straight times when he was 5hp. Also look how the revs are constructed. Agility shortcuts.. (webweaver bot)and much much more to help bot farms.

[@unarmeduim2150]

this game is full of felons

[@NNickGarcia]

watched this 28 times. Certified spoon kid classic

[@Bowserex]

TF?

[@NNickGarcia]

if you know you know. @@Bowserex

[@gophermole2903]

@@NNickGarcia Spoon would fumble the bag on this one

[@lucasjan3555]

thx for all the great videos keep it up

[@Dilexro]

Reported a bunch of rev bots yesterday, they all had same pattern to restore stats and just came in 1 by 1. Was about 15 bots from same world in just 1 min

[@gwiggle5966]

The staff of water mode is literally on the stream called menace mode. Can just enable or disable it

[@brgasdfew5315]

@SirPugger in the dungeon west of mage bank in the wilderness theres a bunch of bots telegrabbing wines of zammy its in lvl 55 wild and the bots are all lvl 27, seems like every world has one

[@Wessel1271]

Imagine youre not playing this game and this is what you see; I'm at a loss for words. Its beyond sad and makes me feel sad about the future of the game

[@spitalovic9455]

This is getting way out of hand lmao, good shit jagex

[@birdpiss]

It's like watching a bots fighting for the top of the food tree lol

[@TheMuddbudd]

I love the channel and the videos, I just wish it wasn't always a depressing state of the bots in the game. The fact that bots can have even over 1000 kills is absurd, let alone 15k to 17k or taking nearly every single spot in the top 100 of every boss. I've heard a mod say it's about 5% of the playerbase that are bots, but that's either an underestimation, a willing blind eye or complete bull and they have no idea.

[@ST-xq2zh]

I think I know what’s up with the bot killing the other bot at the caves. I’ve seen the bots hit them with a staff of water and it got them off the revenants and I noticed it works for almost all of them so I used it to get them to hop, but it seems either there’s a way to break them or just a smaller farm around who’s script doesn’t work well because you can kill those ones if only using a staff of water. Just got one like yesterday.

[@TheSuperghdude]

I remember tipping you off about the medium clue bot farm some time ago, the botting is getting so out of hand these days I refuse to try to go for a rev weapon on my iron it's just unplayable

[@OverlordC]

Enjoying your content & subscribed. Returning player and beta tester of RS2 here. I've been watching your vids to catch up on what's changed. Can't believe what a bot infested dump RS has become. Literally been bragging for 20 years, in other games, about how proactive Jagex is keeping trash out of their game. They were my example of good dev. Apparently I've been lying. Please do a video on what average players can do to help Jagex clean house.

[@deathpyre42]

Could it also be that they're attacking other bots for the sake of deliberately drawing aggro and dying to a mule account? Since if they mule normally they'll get caught, but if they kill their own accounts it'll get mixed in with every other pker hunting rev bots.

[@danielhystad5375]

@sirpugger that wildy slayer helm bot looks alot like one that me and my team killed the other day. We caught it on its way to the slayer cave. i think we reacted quick enough with the tb. it did not try to run or anything after that. just went into the cave and stood still

[@einar5384]

Most of those bots from the last farm in the video seem to have been turned into nex bots

[@L1ghtweaver]

The Bot Wars have begun

[@anthonydannucci6362]

I guess what I’m asking is could A J mod go to the slayer caves or rev caves and just kill the bots like any other pker would do but with powers to make the bot unable to retaliate or evade

[@nicholaspanagopoulos1481]

Could you wait for the npc aggression timer clock to run out at the black demons then you might be able to get closer to the bots then tb them?

[@Cultist-Cat]

runescape has become sentient

[@metalspoon69]

I think those callisto bots all joined the same clanchat so maybe they could detect who is a member of their group to detect pk'ers or something? If you do it that way you don't have to keep a database of bot accounts I guess.

[@spitalovic9455]

And then leave the cc open for anybody to join? Ok buddy

[@basicguy99]

Bots upsetting other bots is unironically a great form of bot control.

[@brandonballman4915]

Lol with the emote bug rn this would be wild

[@PdxGod1999]

This is crazy lol I’ve always wanted to make a dwh build I wish i had one I’d hop off league and go bot hunting 😂

[@BlackLemonDemon]

Just for curiosity, does factor work in europe? I've seen loads of sponsors from them but they are in the US also look out for a mage pure, just saying ^^

[@Allbut27]

that xfactor meal looks like i mine aswell eat it on the toilet

[@nickvanbebber7579]

YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE KURASK BOTS THERE EVERYWHERE!! Freminick slayer caves they are everywhere!

[@infectedsquad6810]

sirpugger you can kill the bots at wilderness crab teleport some of them dont hop and risk alot like 2m some times but you have be quick

[@bryancalmon6440]

What if we're just all bots...

[@jimbobob9385]

took a 6 month break come back and my 120m+ bank wiped went to play quickly logged off like its ridiculous

[@elkedge]

You keep this game fun 😂

[@aztecking2]

Insane that no mods at jagex can just log into the game and not see this

[@Oldplayer363]

they know and see, they just dont wanna hit the fan ....

[@yannaedc5934]

4:50 that's just hilarious

[@deadvesu]

Can u investigate the edgeville dungeon bots there are sooooo many of them in every world

[@joed6207]

next time for callisto freeze the bot then freeze the boss when its next to it so it cant come towards you

[@MegaFroggieman]

Have you ever been to the gaurdian of the rights, there is literally bots just standing still in the game there

[@yellaviz_on]

Sir pugger vs ecosystem

[@cris25266331]

Bot Wars 2023!

[@wrs900]

Bots are in cc to reduce ban risk and to appear as legit team

[@brandonwenger7611]

I got one of the slayer bots the other day it was 101 you have to wait inside the slayer cave and tb them right when enter but I only got 1 risked about 800k

[@buleleader]

Also can't help but notice the botting stream didn't count the death when you killed it :P

[@ryanbrown910]

@sirpugger Possible bots world 331 at the Edgeville furnace, all lvls 33 or 31 with the same exact stats including 30 mining and 80 smelting, 31 crafting, 30 strength, and Atkk. Really weird.

[@jasonbored8319]

Jagex is behind it. They stream it to fog the acccusation. Player base dying. Company buyers/investors peak intrest

[@henrydiegert]

Great video! After everything I have looked at over the past few weeks. OSRS is 30% players and 70% bots. Bots are everywhere, doing everything and not being banned. I think at this point, if they banned all of the bots and kept new ones from being made. The games economy would crash. I hope this theory is wrong.

[@DescendingVelocity]

You are correct. If every single bot were banned the economy would collapse. All of the runes, supplies, rares under 10m would be impossible to buy. Only way to not be affected by the collapse would be play Ironman lol

[@BAMFshee]

70% matches what I was getting when I was comparing the ban numbers that Mod Tyran was posting on Twitter to the tracked official playercount online a couple of years ago; the ban numbers per day on average were equal to little over 70% of the average playercount per day on average. And those are just the ones that were caught; the real number is probably closer to 80%, maybe even as high as 85%.

[@henrydiegert]

@@DescendingVelocity I hope the try and do something to fix it. In the meantime, I will start an ironman lol

[@henrydiegert]

@@BAMFshee I believe you are right! I wish people would spend their time doing something better than ruining a 20 year old game to make a little money.

[@ZachisSublime]

I have a theory that they join the clan chat because they probably are legitimate people on the other side and probably multi boxing or doing something else while their bots are doing the work.

[@GrandePinoche]

Crazy that jagex hasnt just hired sir puggar as head of the anti cheat team by now

[@2small_paul]

Maybe jagex needs to add more requirements to sending rev caves? Maybe require at least 100 wildy slayer tasks and have a total level req of 1500 or something? I dunno something. Do SOMETHING to bottle neck revs please.

[@Clustehh]

Honestly at this point jagex should invest in another company’s bot protection to use rather than their own. Time and time again they’ve shown how incompetent they are…kasada, Akamai, shape - all 3 of these bot protection services are amazing, I bot shoes and these 3 companies were the biggest pain in the ass when I was at my peak. They work extremely well, and sometimes COMPLETELY deterred all botters except for the elite ones because of how effective they were at pissing off botters

[@aarons6935]

You're trash for botting.

[@Shneebly]

Those services mitigate things like automated web scraping, I don't think any of them are in the anti-cheat industry.

[@dustz7415]

Botscape

[@buckets0663]

Remember when you used to pk :( good old days

[@RaviPatel-rz3lq]

Jagex should hire you. No wonder why everyones so rich and always have unlimited cash

[@austiniscoolduh]

I happen to have a low level obby pure, im going to try this! I quit using it because i suck at pking, but these guys dont fight back so its perfect! haha

[@ollilund5360]

Pk bots have been regular sight in south revs for atleast 2 months.

[@mikepow8077]

Sir pugger can you check out the anglerfish bots this is insane I went through half the world and on each world is 7-15 bitters each lvl 22 100+ fishing each. Some worlds have 40-50 plus bots on it fishing

[@Alrightythen935]

SIR PUGGER, ALL GUARDIANS OF THE RIFT WORLDS, AT LEAST 30 AT ANY TIME. SOMETIMES FREEZING AND BREAKING IN THE MIDDLE. I have seen worlds with 70-80% bots

[@HDMuney]

Bot farm priff mining spot for runite ore , bot farm undead Druid they are insane some have 200m ranging . Bot farm pretty much everywhere in osrs 😊

[@ryanomalley1776]

I keep forgetting to email this to you. There is a group of vetion bots that will log out or disappear as soon as they detect a pker. The weird thing is, they can log out mid combat with Vetion. I have video of this where you only see the bot for a frame then it disappears. They are exploiting some bug to logout mid combat and it's well over 30 wild so they can't tele. I need answers!

[@snufflez885]

As long as you are not hit by any of Vet'ions attacks, he will not directly damage you and thus you are not in combat. The only time you can be in combat during the fight is when he summons the skeleton hellhounds.

[@ryanomalley1776]

@snufflez885 oh shoot, OK thanks man

[@Brurgh]

They're evolving!!

[@iamgem]

These bots remind me of the NYC rats eating each other and fighting for food during covid-19 quarantine. Tragic

[@kevin10144]

Massive bot farm in 302 ardy bank by the docks, 100s of lvl 89s all same stats thieving knights.

[@RuinedItAgain]

That last guy has to be the same that was running the ecumentical jey bot farm. They are unkillable without tedium, and its not good gp/h. Dangerous one

[@themysterioussoul1970]

Nice vid like always 💕💕💕

[@s40085]

How did you make it where you could hide everyone except the bot at the ge? What plug-in is that?

[@ryanblonski1603]

The staff of water bots don't bank the ether that there etherium bracelets collect. I killed one and it dropped over 10k eth.

[@mathieuroy9107]

lol that bot with the name "Le Cul", it means "The Ass" in french :P