I finally got a MoonSwatch. Buying experience, thoughts, my ignorance and a case of misdescriptions

[@supaG-1.0]

As soon as I was aware of the profit margin on these I knew what quality to expect. Thankfully I managed to resist the initial urge to get one and I'm so glad I did. Whether a watch is £200, £2000 or £20,000, I wouldn't waste a penny on anything I didn't think was worth it. Thank you again for a lovely video and sharing your experience.

[@DecemberNames]

isnt the two oclock hand for 1/10th second count? I absolutely loved this video! The positive vibes were contagious, and I found myself smiling and feeling inspired throughout the entire thing. The editing was fantastic, and the message was so uplifting. It's the perfect pick-me-up for anyone who needs a little boost of positivity in their day. Highly recommend!

[@sersweetgooch]

you're correct lol

[@rob_ya_boy]

It's true, but the description of the watch that he put up on screen at 8:48 calls it an "hours" subdial. I ran into the same issue buying a Seiko solar chrono but it had a 24hr subdial instead.

[@WyvernDotRed]

Arguably, if the dial has digits up to 10, it's [obviously] some form of decimal. If it goes up to 12 or 24 instead, it is some form of hour display. Of course it is possible to change a 1/10th to a 10h one as the chronograph passes an hour, vaguely like how some Casio watches drop the millisecond display in favour of an hour display after reaching this time. When in doubt, look up the movement and check it's features, these are usually listed more accurately in my experience. It stopping for saving the battery is a bogus justification in my opinion, new batteries are incredibly cheap and it's easy to install a new battery in a quartz movement yourself. The marketing misrepresentation at 15:45 is explaining why you (@watchenthusiastlondon) are so upset with it though, that makes it plain false advertisement. But with how proudly they advertise the "bioceramic" plastic case and the general poor quality, I see it as nothing but a marketing gimmick, which they should have gotten right.

[@flymojo001]

Firstly, thank you for making this video, I haven’t seen anyone really talk about the experience of buyer’s remorse. It’s all about finally getting the watch (albeit sometimes mixed with negatives, etc..). I am in the same situation (in a way). After a year of not even being able to get hands on with that watch. I walked into the store on Oxford St on Monday and was given the choice of the Red, Yellow, Pink or Turquoise. So I bought the Mission to Mars on the spot. After I tried it on and having the same conflict about quality and price (I am in no illusion to what this watch is) but I had hoped it would feel slightly more sturdy. Even in the store having tried another £100 regular swatch, the difference is quite apparent. Now I’m back home and after wearing the watch for a couple of hours, I am somehow not convinced and feeling some of that remorse. I love the look of the watch, but think it would not survive a couple of door frame knocks. It’s back in the box and I’m giving some serious thought to returning it and getting a couple of regular Swatch ones instead. Decisions, decisions.. 😂

[@AnotherWatchChannel]

I’ve worn my Mars MoonSwatch for 6 months straight for everything. I know its cheap looking, but its held up quite nice. No fading of the strap. Only light scuffs like you would experience with a hesalite moon watch (which I have owned). this watch isn’t for everyone.. but personally.. I really enjoy it. Its not worth $300… but I’m a crazy watch person and paid it.

[@AvroBellow]

You can get a Pagani PD-1701 that is made of 316L stainless steel, has a real sapphire crystal, actually LOOKS like a Speedy, has a Seiko VK63 mechaquartz chronograph movement and costs ~$100. Wearing a Moonswatch, to me, is like wearing a sign that says "I'm an idiot!".

[@SmokeyLove-vt4xd]

If thats how harshly you judge people. Why not just say it to their face

[@hiramabiff885]

I grew up in Florida. Born in 1954 I was a Space Kid. In 1969 my mom and aunt went to Europe. Mom asked me what I would like her to bring back for me. I immediately said, "Omega Speedmaster watch." The day we landed on the moon she bought one in Zurich for $155.00. I wore the watch every day until 1980 when I was issued a Rolex Sea Dweller in military service. Thereafter I always wore the Speedy in July. It turns out the watch Mom bought was incredibly rare and as I am approaching 70 I sold it to arguably the world expert on Speedmasters. Guess what I bought. Three Speedmaster homage watches, two Paganis and the Phylida with the beautiful ST19 Seagull movement. Omega in my opinion, obliterated the magic of their masterpiece. The homage watches honor that masterpiece. Omega turned a Goddess into a cheap streetwalker in every respect and that was no small factor in influencing my decision to sell my watch, albeit at an astronomical profit.

[@Richardpuller246]

How much did u sell it for.

[@albertofourie3294]

💯 Omega (and the Swatch Group for that matter) were entrusted to keep the Speedmaster sacrosanct in honor of those brave astronauts and what symbolized man's greatest achievement! Instead, pure greed got the better of Omega/Swatch and together they've proceeded to "milk" the historical significance of the Speedmaster to such an extent that not much remains of what once was deemed "sacred"!

[@kirilpavlov89]

The right register is 1/10 sec and the left one is Minutes. And you zero it with the lower pusher. What is you opinion about it now?

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

💯🎯 You’re absolutely right. Of course, I didn’t know that initially (shows how much I know) and the key point is: that’s not what the MoonSwatch website says either. The subdial on the watch is misdescribed on their website and weeks after me pointing this out, they still haven’t changed the copy… It also means that the marketing team that put it all together didn’t know what they were talking about either AND no one from Swatch or Omega has bothered to read the copy… 🤯 My opinion was ultimately that I fell out of love with my MoonSwatch. I couldn’t envisage wearing it beyond the novelty and so I have since given it away to a family member, who saw it and loved it. Each to their own!

[@EridanDan]

I was going to write an almost verbatim comment, the chrono 1/10 of a second subdial indeed works as intended, it's the same movement as in many other quartz chrono Swatches 🙂 I was bewitched by the MoonSwatch sirens song too, and a Mission to Moonshine Gold Edition was offered to me when I enquired at the Rue du Mont Blanc Swatch shop in Geneva. So I snagged one for CHF 275. They had another one left, and I was told that they wouldn't get any more before the following full moon. But I'm not sure about that, the cute employee at the shop might have been pulling my leg. I wore the Moonshine Gold MoonSwatch on and off for about two weeks, and I have to say that it made for a nice conversation piece. I was actually surprised by how many people remarked on the golden second hand. I have no complaints about it, on the contrary, but it feels light and cheap, and the novelty faded and it's now back in its box and in a drawer. I prefer the reassuring heft of my trusty old Tissot auto, and for that price there are nicer metal case chrono Swatches to be had 😉 It might get passed on as a gift too, or maybe on auction on eBay, as they're going for almost double the retail price 😅 Ciao.

[@JM.TheComposer]

Honestly, the MoonSwatch is the main reason I became interested in purchasing and wearing wristwatches. I had never even heard of the MoonSwatch until I saw my coworker wearing the Mars model. From there, I started furious research! To this day I have never owned a MoonSwatch, but I did buy 2 other inexpensive models. I think this demonstrates why the MoonSwatch is a success: It brings new customers into the wristwatch market, some of whom may eventually buy expensive luxury watches like the SpeedMaster.

[@garrym5682]

Here's the thing about the Moonswatch. I was quite late on the hype, but about 6 months in, decided I really wanted one. I visited all the London stores (that stocked them) several times each, only to either not find the one I wanted, or more usually not find any at all. Then, one day I was watching a KZbin video and heard someone refer to the Moonswatch, not as a "toy", but as a "souvenir". And that was it. I realised in that moment what it was. A toy has a function. You play with it. A souvenir has no function other than to remind you of some event, usually by being a visual representation of it. In reality, the Moonswatch is a souvenir of a souvenir. The Speedy Moonwatch is a souvenir of the Moon Landings, and the Moonswatch is a souvenir of the Speedy. I immediately no longer wanted one. I work in Central London every day, and I have never seen a single person in the street, nor have I encountered anyone wearing a Moonswatch, despite them being sold by the bucketload, and being continually sold out. I think this indicates that I'm on the right track - for most people, it is being bought as a souvenir for the home, and not actually to be worn.

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

An excellent point and well made. I suspect that the Speedy itself is much the same - a souvenir to mark the moon landing 50+ years ago - although people do use it and regularly, in spite of the tiny crown which is a bit tricky to wind (daily). I shall probably use mine tonight: heading out with friends, on what’s set to be a gorgeous evening, in short sleeves. I don’t feel sufficiently confident to wear my Odysseus out; sadly, I would just worry and be super conscious about it if I did.

[@tarasmathers7423]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experience in this matter. I am however quite glad, that you were at the very least, able to come to terms w/ the situation, so that you could allow yourself to enjoy the item in question. I know that feeling, and it's not a question of cost, it's a matter of principle. These items are supposed to provide a sense of joy. It's a terrible thing to pay so handsomely, for a heart full of regret and frustration. May the second half of the journey, be much more fulfilling than the first. Wear it in good health my friend. Cheers....

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

Thank you 🙏 although, I have since given it to a family member, who I think will appreciate the watch more than me.

[@florianlipp5452]

The top right dial is a 1/10sec indicator, i believe. (Which is actually a GREAT and rare feature for a chronograph, at least a mechanical chronograph).

[@PaddleTales24]

Can’t expect someone that wears a bremont to figure that out…

[@TurnerBoneHead]

@@PaddleTales24 The website calls it an hour counter.

[@davidsandrovitch7635]

I have the 10th sec feature on rotary (brand) quartz chronographs I own, the register also functioning as an hour counter. I assumed it's a generic feature on many quartz chronographs, but maybe not.

[@TomPlantagenet]

I really like how you narrate these watch stories. You’ve got a real gift. I don’t know what you do for a living but you should consider being a novelist (if you’re not one already).

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

Thank you

[@watchdogpodcast239]

It's a Swatch. Of course it's cheaply made. The concept however is brilliant and Swatch Group is laughing all the way to the bank

[@Mega-zi7ys]

Yes and these few noisy ones who aren't even the target market are making all the noise. The figures clearly speak otherwise.

[@garyjohnston4165]

I was in a shop with my favourite moonswatch in eye and the lady behind the counter gave me a price and it didn't matter what the price was I WAS PAYING IT 👍

[@davidsandrovitch7635]

I have a great Rotary brand quartz chronograph. When you start the chrono the 10th second counter whizzes round for about 20 or 30 seconds, then stops, and functions as an hour counter. However when you pause the time, you see the elapsed 10ths as well. Also having paused, button 1 restarts the chrono running, but button 2 jumps to the elapsed time while the chrono was stopped, and carries on. Rotary 90151 or 90152, alternate colours, yours for around £100 on ebay and worth every penny. Swiss made, with a Ronda movement. I thought all quartz chronographs must work like this but they clearly don't. Great videos by the way. I'm very pleased to have found your channel. ❤😊

[@drbop6951]

Sorry you've had this concern. Most of us nutty watch collectors have had this quartz module in a chronograph watch at some point and that pattern layout always has a 10th counter with A 60 minute dial opposite usually, so not a mystery I'm guessing. Not to be confused with regular mechanical chronographs which usually carry the hours/minutes chrono dials through valjoux, lemania, breitling etc movements with variation on movement rotation and dial pattern layout. The quartz mechanical Lunar pilot has an active 10th counter for 30 seconds which spins then stops to save battery but continues to monitor 10th position, showing another variation on this pattern. All part of discovery and fun learning I guess. Happy collecting. 🙌

[@theaussiewhinger]

I waited about a year until I happened to be in a city with a Swatch store that stocked these watches. I bought the Mercury model. It's held up great for a cheap watch, the movement has been reliable so far, and is fun to wear on days I'm not wearing one of my actual Omega watches.

[@michaelfierman3256]

My brother bought me the Jupiter for Christmas and within an hour or two the 9 o'clock hand began resetting at the wrong position. I didn't want to disappoint him by telling him it was a piece of crap.

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

It’s such a disappointment. 😒

[@pl300877]

You can correct this, you know that?

[@Cull_Obsidian]

The whole saga about the subdial could have been narrated in about one minute. I know you were trying to create tension and drama but it was pretty clear it was to read 1/10ths of seconds, but that was annoyingly long to bring the point of excruciating, I do love your content though, so please do not take this as being hateful and I’m looking forward to your new videos!

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

Thanks for the feedback… it’s just me relating what happened chronologically. Not trying to create drama. That’s just the way it all unfolded for me…

[@JohnKYC]

You don't have to overcomplicate it. Sometimes, it's not about the value but the experience, like with luxury brands. No watch truly reflects the five digits you spend on it. A friend of mine wears one alongside his Rolex, AP etc, simply because he likes how it feels - light and easy. It's just something fun. People shouldn't take it too seriously. If you enjoy it, wear it with a smile and have fun with it.

[@NoNonsenseWatches]

Credit to you for actually making and publishing this video. Sure, someone at the Swatch copy-department made a mistake that shouldn't really occur - but does anyway from time to time. The most bewildering thing to me is that you are clearly a well-educated person, yet your first thought when you see a subdial split into 10ths that only turns when the watch is stopped, is that it surely must be a faulty hour-hand. And even though the first Google-hit on a "moonswatch" search links to an article telling you that the 2 o'clock subdial is a 1/10ths second counter, you then spend time making a video criticizing Swatch and Omega for what is essentially a typo. Don't get me wrong. I get way too pernickety about things too - but at this level, it gets unhealthy 🙂. And coming clean about it on KZbin demands a certain kind of respect. Apart from that, I am a little surprised to see a Lange-connoisseur falling for the Moonswatch hype. You can get some really decent watches for 260$ - but Moonswatches surely are not among them. They are overpriced fashion items.

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

Well, I’m just telling it as it happened. I don’t pretend to be a watch expert, just an enthusiast. And try as I may, I googled a lot and found nothing to suggest the subdial was a 10th of a second - until @Justingalore123’s video… I have other chronographs by Bremont that count hours & hadn’t come across the 10th of a second subdial before. Again, just goes to show what I know ! To my mind, it’s more than a typo. It’s a complete miss of understanding by the watch brands. I can’t help that it bothered me to the extent that it did (but it did). 🤷‍♂️ And as for being a Lange connoisseur, again, I just know what I know and like what I like. Not sure you could call me a connoisseur… the collaboration simply captured my imagination. Like so many others, I guess. We are all human ! Thank you for your feedback 🙏

[@NoNonsenseWatches]

@@watchenthusiastlondon Sure, and I meant no disrespect. Credit to you - exactly for putting it out there all raw and without concern for how your interpretation of the dial may make you look. Your story-telling is top notch, and I enjoy your channel.

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

@@NoNonsenseWatches thank you. No offence taken, but I felt your question warranted an answer… 🙏

[@Antelope1013]

As always a wonderful video. Its truly amazing to me how much your watch journey and mine overlap especially our shared love for Lange. My 4th Lange just arrived at AD yesterday and Fedex cant get to my office fast enough!! ( 1815 double spilt). Look forward to more of your thoughtful content

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

Congratulations

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

ps how much do you wear your double split, 3 months on @Antelope1013 ?

[@Antelope1013]

@@watchenthusiastlondon OFTEN. Cant stop playing with it and winding action is the best Lange has to offer ( Zeitwerk in its now class but different). Actuating the chrono is a dream. Thanks for asking and hope all is well.

[@justinchang3456]

You are indeed correct that the Swatch blurb describing the chronograph function is not only wrong, but also misleading for potential and already owners. As someone else pointed out, the sub-register at 2 o'clock is a 1/10th of a second counter. It is my opinion that they purposely omitted the exact specifications of the movement, which should be a ETA G10.212. However this omission will annoyingly allow them to weasel their way out with some form of disclaimer that due to the increased popularity, we have had to substitute the movement with another, thus the features have changed (usual marketing spiel). Wife and I ended up with a Venus for her and a Mars for myself, but cannot comment on the quality of the watches as we purchased them and they've never left the box since - lol.

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

🤣😳

[@vincebanzon756]

I feel like sitting in a classroom under the subject of watches. Your voice, tone, chronology of the story, is just on point. Thank you for the video. Hope you can come up with more, I don't care if it's watches, your knowledge and the way you make the video is just superb!

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

Thank you very much. 🙏

[@AfriqueNY]

YES!! I'm hooked. This guy is talented! More please!

[@jessetosado]

I believe it is behaving like a 1/10 of a second sub dial. Chronographs have a 1 to 10 subdial to mark sub seconds.

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

💯🎯 You’re absolutely right. Of course, I didn’t know that initially (shows how much I know) and the key point is: that’s not what the MoonSwatch website says either. The subdial on the watch is misdescribed on their website and weeks after me pointing this out, they still haven’t changed the copy… It also means that the marketing team that put it all together didn’t know what they were talking about either AND no one from Swatch or Omega has bothered to read the copy… 🤯

[@davegreen2009]

I bought a mission to the moon version about 11 months ago from Stockx for about £500 (including buyers fees) Instantly took the original strap off and fitted a nato strap on from “the strap Taylor” Been wearing it on an off and i like it, so much so I was in Zurich airport last week and bought the mission to Pluto, I will do the same eventually but mostly wearing my Tudor Pelagos LHD at the moment. I see them as a bit of fun wear and forget.

[@raedsibai4045]

The art of storytelling! Thanks

[@nicholasorton17]

Your videos are fantastic. Thank you for an honest review. Look forward to more videos.

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

Thank you 🙏

[@nengvang999]

woulda never expected a moonsswatch video from you. I really wanted one too good thing I wasn't able to find one and went with a pagani and phylida instead.

[@drewschilling5158]

I believe you can correct the issue by resetting it. I didn't know how all the features worked on this watch for several days before searching videos giving the details. I learned that I had been running the Tach for 5 days out of ignorance. I reset the watch and all is working great. I was afraid I had caused damage. So far I believe the only problem I caused was using up battery life.

[@cosmodoc]

great review, I would rather get the red and white Pagani Design with steel case and bracelet, VK63 movement and sapphire crystal. All for less than £100.And it actually works!!!

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

💯

[@Nefville]

I'm sorry but I really have nothing nice to say about this watch. I love your videos though, always glad to see a new one. Speaking of chronos, I'd love to see you get that Odysseus chrono, I'd be curious what you thought of that.

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

The Odysseus chrono looks good and has much to applaud, however I’m wondering how practically wearable it is, given that the thickness is now over 14mm… need to get hands on to really answer your question.

[@jeffkellett580]

I have a moon Swatch. At the end of the day I was not expecting it to be an Omega. People shouldn't buy them without expectation. The most important thing about these is do you enjoy wearing it, and does it make you happy which mine does. End of story.

[@structurescience]

Yay, Helen! Knew she'd sort it out.

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

😂

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

My 2010 Victorinox Quartz chronograph has the same Eta movement that's in this watch. I have to say that it's the most accurate watch I've ever owned. It can go for several months and it will have lost at most a few seconds from universal coordinated time. That said, the chronograph function leaves much more to be desired. It's difficult to operate and reset and the tenth of a second dial at the 2 o'clock position is pretty useless for what I use it for. I'd rather have a dedicated minute hand on the big dial like some other models I've seen. Anyway the accuracy is still great and that's why I still wear it.

[@Fischi4711]

Very brave of you to report about your Quarz movement incompetence. I was also confused and learned later that a lot of Quarz chronos have the 1/10 feature. I also have the Mars (my favorite color is red) and the Speedy Saphire. My wife just got the Sun. It's a fun watch and not cheap, but since the demand is still higher than production, the pice point seems right.

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

Well, it’s what happened. I’m not putting myself out as an expert, simply an enthusiast… BTW Swatch STILL refer to: “the hours and minutes subdials sport unique red hands in a playful spacecraft shape.” (I just checked) 😔

[@Fischi4711]

@@watchenthusiastlondon Things like this usually bothers me also, but I tend to skip all the marketing bullshit stories and focus on the specs.

[@CyberSammael]

Its pretty standard practice in quartz chronos to have a 1/10 second rather than an hours indicator, partly because running the chrono for long periods drains the battery and partly because quartz allows that accuracy. The copy on the website was clearly written by someone who hadnt actually had a Moonswatch in their hand and is misleading, but that functionality at least is not 'a Moonswatch thing'. Its also on my Bulova Lunar Pilot and Farer and Seiko chronos.

[@jayb1108]

Such a soothing voice and great storytelling in all your videos …impressive!

[@LexAngel]

That would absolutely irritate me. I would not have let that go either, especially as the tone of the last message seemed to suggest that you should have known. You absolutely wouldn't have, given their erroneous description. I hope they acknowledge this!

[@AlexanderB.]

At first I was also quite intrigued by this collaboration and thr opportunity to get a somewhat genuine Omega watch for just two hundred and something Euros. But having learnt it actually feels cheap made me turn away from it. I believe what that subdials at two o'clock actually does is a tenths of a second stop watch functionality, that's it. The good thing about this that I don't think your watch is broken.

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

💯🎯 You’re absolutely right. Of course, I didn’t know that initially (shows how much I know) and the key point is: that’s not what the MoonSwatch website says either. The subdial on the watch is misdescribed on their website and weeks after me pointing this out, they still haven’t changed the copy… It also means that the marketing team that put it all together didn’t know what they were talking about either AND no one from Swatch or Omega has bothered to read the copy… 🤯

[@AlexanderB.]

​@Watch Enthusiast London They didn't really need to review their marketing text, there was enough hype around this watch anyway! 😂

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

@@AlexanderB. True. Although it will be interesting to see how long it takes for them to amend the copy on their website… I wrote to point out the error almost 4 weeks ago now…

[@nikr1d3r32]

Looks like ground for class action lawsuit 😂

[@Heisenberg_747]

I was just close in buying this watch then quality issue made me buy a Seiko. 😁

[@MuhammadKharismawan]

The watch is prob the only cheap watch that anyone can wear and immediately excite both watch enthusiast and any layperson who thought its a real omega. It's a showoff watch that's been doing its duty for a year now. I'm fine with it missing Hour subdial and do thought 10th of a Seconds is more useful for that spot than hour marker, it's the kind of Function quartz watch are more reliable for.

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

It’s a bit like the watch version of a Fiat 500…

[@lp9280]

Just kind of makes me to appreciate my "Moonwatch" more (it is actually Speedmaster racing "sapphire sandwich", but looks very similar to any Speedmaster Professional) ... it turns out I was an idiot and I thought the hour dial was minute dial (and I thought it is weird they have chosen 12 as a number), because it moved with the minutes, but I didn't even realise until now it had two hands. So basically it is full second clock with chronograph that shows both minutes and hours up-to 12 from the moment you started chronograph!

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

It happens in real life ! 👊

[@AnonZero0]

*I appreciate your shows, your style of narration is quite appealing, I wish you would do more.* *Smiles* *[And no shorties.]*

[@AnonZero0]

*As for the 'Swatch', its cheap junk; its main value outside of the Swatch Group, is for the few who can buy cheap, and sell with a profit.*

[@BarnOwl61]

Over 200 CHF. Not in my lifetime 😂 It is very brave of you to put this story online. Respect for that!

[@davegreen2009]

That’s the price in the airport I was there last week

[@AfriqueNY]

As a NYer. This guy has the perfect accent for the job. I'm hooked. I feel like I'm watching PBS master theatre

[@fepatton]

Since the movement doesn't have a sweep second hand for the chrono, I guess it makes sense that you need a way to measure the 10ths. On a watch like this, the chronograph is more of a novelty than a practical tool. Lots of failures of messaging all around, but I would guess that most people buying this will have no clue that anything even appears incorrect. I didn't even know about this watch until I was discussing the topic with an owner of a proper Omega moon watch. I immediately went online to see what it was. I saw a plastic replica of the moon watch bringing exorbitant prices on eBay. Guess I shouldn't be surprised - after all, Swatch made their fortune creating a demand cheap, cute plastic watches. Seems like they've still got the magic touch!

[@ahmedhishamdr8485]

In summary: You bought a toy that you didn’t even know the basics of how to play it!

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

💯🎯😂

[@Plan-C]

I bought a GSHOCK square 5610U. The original sqaure was NASA certified for the Space Shuttle and the Space Station. Good enough for me. A genuine Speedmaster would probably get ripped of my wrist by some oik anyway eventually, given the way London is going.

[@mikhailsokolovskiy4020]

it's a 1/10th of a second indicator, not an hours indicator...

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

💯🎯 You’re absolutely right. Of course, I didn’t know that initially (shows how much I know) and the key point is: that’s not what the MoonSwatch website says either. The subdial on the watch is misdescribed on their website and weeks after me pointing this out, they still haven’t changed the copy… It also means that the marketing team that put it all together didn’t know what they were talking about either AND no one from Swatch or Omega has bothered to read the copy… 🤯

[@navboi12]

Frankly, I'd steer clear of these and save up for a used Speedmaster in one of its many variants.

[@RestorationWatch]

I bought the 'Moon', 'Mercury' and 'Saturn' as from a design point of view, these were the best looking in my opinion. I did study industrial design at university and have a design background, so I believe I made the best choices in regards to the aforementioned criterion. That said, I have to say the Omega + Swatch MoonSwatches are all cheap and nasty rubbish. Not even up to Swatch watch quality in my opinion, of which I have a small collection as a part of a large design collection I have compiled over decades of collecting, with many pieces from the 1960s through to the 1980s with a few pieces from the 1990s (some Swatch Watches in fact). Richard Sapper and Marco Zanuso are design gods in my opinion and are extremely well represented in my collection as well as taking up space in my small library of design books. Back to the topic at hand. These Omega + Swatch MoonSwatches feel like plastic rubbish and have taken up residence in my Swatch watch collection area as a curiosity and example of what I believe are classic examples of 'fashion victim' artefacts. As I intend to donate my entire collection to the design school I attended, I believe these will make for great teaching examples of tacky design, and how Omega risked sullying their reputation in the process. That said, I still intend to purchase the Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra Shades Co‑Axial Master Chronometer 38mm in 'Terracotta' (also love the 'Saffron') that I have been lusting over obsessively for some time now. I must say for a person of such discerning taste as yourself, I feel you too have become a fashion victim in this case and should hide this particular oddity at the back of your sock drawer post-haste. 😀

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

I beat you to it ! I gave mine away to a family member (who is very happy with it). I just couldn’t get along with the moonswatch. 👎

[@RestorationWatch]

@@watchenthusiastlondon I forgot to mention the fractions of a second sub dial is called a seconde foudroyante with a foudroyante hand. Seconde foudroyante dates from at least the 1870's and was developed for precise timing of sporting events, especially horse racing. “Foudre” is French for “lightning”, and this is the preferred name in English, along with “jumping seconds”, or more specifically, jumping seconds hand or sub dial. In German, this complication is known as “Blitzende Sekunde” (flashing second), while Italians call it “diavoletto”, meaning “little devil”, strangely enough.

[@Danter5435]

I find it crazy that they are STILL falsely advertising the tenth of a second sub dial as an hour one on the Mission to Mars web page. Really goes to show the level of care being put into the product.

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

🎯💯

[@alfieakaronaldog]

Do you really think Omega are much better with the Professional model then? It was user error. Who reads the instructions on a simple watch?

[@alfieakaronaldog]

The product is stunning. Two huge fingers up to the original and all it’s fanboys. Has got loads of low life hooded flippers into watches, and bolstered the drug trade 😎

[@Danter5435]

@alfieakaronaldog ? It's not instructions, it's called product description since it's on their website. It is minor in this case, but you do realize that misrepresenting your product to your customers is what leads to false advertising lawsuits? It's why companies are usually so adamant to make sure the product they are describing to their customer is accurate as it is literally illegal to do so both in the US and Canada and I'm sure just about everywhere else to some degree. And I'm glad you're enjoying the product with that dash of sarcasm at the end. 😉 But ironically, if you want a stunning product, compared to the swatch, the Chinese knockoff from Pagani Design PD-1701 is ironically higher quality than the moonswatch minus the Omega logo at 1/3rd the price. Now if you NEED that brand on your wrist then enjoy the Moonwatch looks for like 1/25 the cost. 👍

[@alfieakaronaldog]

@@Danter5435 Worlds gone mad! Stupid people not knowing how a cheap chrono works. Stupid people being able to sue companies for making an error. Stupid people buying Pagani Design fakeages (inc. me). I do not ‘need’ the Omega logo on anything, I already have it on a few non MoonSwatches. Most recently the Ultradeep.

[@rickblanchette4483]

It was a good move for both brands sales. Limit production for swatch and cause a frenzy which gets people in the store. From the limited production people started just buying the real moon watch which increases sales for Omega

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

I was in the Omega store the other day in Battersea Power Station and I asked what the best selling watch was. The MoonWatch was the immediate answer. By far… That said, I suspect you could have asked the same question in any Omega store over the last few years and the response would have been the same. It certainly was when I bought mine in January 2020…

[@ryan.crosby]

"I missed out on a really good episode of MAFS Australia" Our fears confirmed. The show has breached containment and has infected Britannia. May god have mercy on our souls.

[@lukazz434]

Hey, any experience with Nomos watches? I'm finishing university now and I want to buy myself a watch. Is it good as a first luxury watch? I'm looking for the club campus. I know it doesn't have to do anything with the video, but I would really appreciate your input.

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

I haven’t ever got to grips with a Nomos before. They haven’t ever appealed to me, so I don’t know much about them but I can’t comment further until / unless I get ‘hands on’. To date, I have only made videos once I have actually bought and owned a watch & currently have no plans to do so with a Nomos… That said, I know the brand has a large fan base and people do rave about them… Best advice is, go and handle one, wear one and set aside any discomfort you might feel about ‘geeking out’ on it in front of the retailer. You need to get comfortable with what you’re intending to buy and it’s tough to really do this on a ‘one time’ 10 minute experience in a shop… so try it on, go away, come back again and repeat until you’re satisfied that it’s for you. Good luck !

[@lukazz434]

@@watchenthusiastlondon Thanks for the detailed answer. I knew I would be worth it to ask you for a watch opinion. The only thing that keeps me away from "100%"-ing the Nomos is the manual wound caliber. Is that a big "hassle" in contrast to an automatic caliber?

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

Well, that all depends on you, really… if, like me you enjoy the winding experience and firing up a watch, then no… it only takes a few seconds to do it and I enjoy and appreciate the ritual. But equally, I wore one watch only for the best part of 20 years and during that period, I wouldn’t have entertained the notion of having to wind a watch every day or so… It depends on how you feel and where you’re at on the ‘journey’…

[@lukazz434]

@@watchenthusiastlondon Thanks for the advice!

[@mrsmith8224]

Great entry for in house mechanisms watches

[@stenic2]

I finally bought the pagani homage, of course I own a speedy moon pro, but to for everyday wear the pagani is unbeatable, proper 316 steel, seiko movement…

[@amoledzeppelin]

All Omegas and Swatches are just expensive toys IMO, but your case is the exact reason I always try to find and download the proper manual before ordering any watch... Website descriptions, especially when it comes to online stores, are not to be trusted as they are filled in by underpaid students and partially with auto-generated templates. Where I live, absolute majority of watch retailers doesn't have a slightest clue of what they are selling. And when it comes to cellphones... don't even get me started.

[@gpnatale]

Can't believe that a watch connoisseur like you did't catch immediately the 2 o'clock subdial function!

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

🫣🤷‍♂️😱😬

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

ps I’m not a connoisseur, I’m an enthusiast.

[@gpnatale]

@@watchenthusiastlondonyou're going to become a connoisseur very fast! (BTW you already are it…) Cheers!

[@emit_etinif]

My one issue with the moonswatch is the minute subdial. An issue which seemingly no one has addressed.. or bothered to perhaps. My issue is this; Why have a chronograph timing 10th of a second, and then only have 5-minute markers on the minute subdial? So effectively whilst you are able to time events to the 10th of a second, you’re forced to guess the number of minutes elapsed (to the nearest 5 min. marker on the minute subdial). A rather embarrassing blunder from the powerhouses Omega and Swatch. A blunder I would suspect corrected in future moonswatch iterations. Anyway, I greatly enjoy listening to your perspective and storytelling. From an aspiring collector, Thank you If you find yourself in Copenhagen, Denmark, with some time to pass, the unassuming AD ‘ Ole Mathiesen’ has some of the world’s finest watches. If you’ve got some time left over still, coffee’s on me. Cheers from Dk

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

Bravo 👏 That is such a good point and very well made. I hadn’t noticed ! Nor it seems has anyone else. I have just gone back to my photos to check… 💯🎯 It is indeed poor by Swatch x Omega but again it speaks to the overall approach of ‘style over substance’. As and when I’m next in Denmark, I will look you up 👍🙏

[@jaytaylor9232]

2 o'clock sub dial is 1/10th second. I worked this out on the first use of the chronograph.

[@wagsbass]

You are an excellent story teller.

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

Thank you

[@butchmeister80]

Try pulling bezel out and push top button to move it round might kick in

[@STROND]

Showing a good ballanced review !

[@Paul_F_C]

No way I would I miss an episode of married at first sight Australia this series lol

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

Haha. I KNOW!!

[@richardbartlett6932]

Everyone buying one thought they were getting an Omega at the price of a swatch but ended up getting a swatch for the price of an Omega 🤦‍♂️ PT Barnum springs to mind😂

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

🎯

[@petee1968]

I picked up the Mars myself a few weeks ago from the Oxford St Swatch store. I bought it on a whim because it was available. Immediately I knew it was a piece of junk and I’d never wear it. Thankfully there were others who were very happy to take it off my hands (at retail cost, I might add, no profiteering here). Despite it’s crappy build and the weird placement of the subdials, I still would have kept it but for one thing: it’s not even slightly waterproof. It’s an obvious beater, a perfect holiday watch, but you can’t get it wet?!? Pointless. I love my Speedmaster, it’s an all-time design classic. The MoonSwatch could have been a superb tribute, but it’s a piece of junk instead.

[@b.p.stimemachines2327]

Is the two o’clock dial for 10th of seconds for timing and not an hour timer. So the chronograph does seconds and tenths and full minutes but doesn’t count hours since it is only marked to 10 and not 12 so when counting seconds and stopping it it reads however many tenths of a second that is why it is seemingly stopping at random spots

[@621jihoonkim]

i love your channel! hoping to see your videos more!

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

Thank you very much🙏

[@IAMAWESOMEO3000]

Website still unchanged.

[@MiguelBricaBrac]

That watch has either the ETA G10.211 or G10.212 which is found in the Tissot T-Race models. I wonder if those chronos have the same issue with the tenths subdial as yours? Either way, return it and get a proper gimmick moon watch like the original Bulova Lunar Pilot. Current retail price on those is about an extra $150 dollars from what you dropped on this toy.

[@greygoose3936]

8 months after this video went up and the description on the website still lists it as an hours subdial.

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

🤯

[@turbolenza35]

was the airport lady pretty?

[@ryanyu102]

I honestly think most moonswatch owners don't really use their chronograph functions. It is more of just an aesthetic for them.

[@markhamilton7289]

i was able to get one in the Glasgow shop. I walked out as it wasnt the colour i wanted (mission to venus was the only one available) and ultimately i decided not to buy one as it felt awful in the hand. ended up spending my £200 on a perpetual regulator from a small hong kong based company of the same name. I ultimately got a watch that was a bargain for £200 rather than one that is pure hype for £250

[@jovanstankovic9210]

WHAT COLLABORATION?! Swatch literally OWNS Omega!

[@samclonce]

Excellent story thank you

[@daveho852]

i agreed it’s unforgivable to name on its website that 2 o’clock register as “hours” hand😅

[@mrpenguin823]

You do deserve more attention to your channel.

[@simonkennedy5899]

You’re looking for problems mate. SWATCH website listed a warranty repair OR no questions asked return policy. What more do you want?

[@kingsnurglegurglesonthevik4517]

It is a plastic watch. What did you expect ?

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

A better plastic watch ?

[@kingsnurglegurglesonthevik4517]

@@watchenthusiastlondon Sometimes you don't get what you pay for though.

[@80amnesia]

omg you did a whole video on this, watch enthusiasts know it's a tenth of second dial. Yeah the description in the website was wrong, not a big deal for me

[@rzezniqq]

Back in the good old days 250CHF equivalent could get you a Seiko certified dive watch with the ugly but infinitely durable 7s26 movement be it the Skx or Monster. Both million times better built and mechanical.

[@davidp605]

Very nice story telling

[@TurnerBoneHead]

The website is still wrong as of today.

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

It’s really poor…

[@Black_bird71]

after i got my hands on my mission to sun , i thought ny hour counter is broken , realized its a 10th of second counter in a minute but i rather had an hour subdial than a 10th of second one.

[@Black_bird71]

also i think this is an amazing deal for swatch. no one is blaming swatch for being swatch . but i think people. including me, were expecting a little bit of Omega in there

[@grafikwork3808]

I love this watches, enjoy it:)

[@mrpenguin823]

Well well. It’s a Swatch. Surprise! Love your videos. Excellent content.

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

Thank you 🙏😊

[@alfieakaronaldog]

I love all three of mine. It’s 100% a watch and not a toy 😉

[@tonyzeno2715]

Still where else can you find... an actual Genuine "Omega" stamp on a dial of $400 Watch?

[@benseavers4047]

I always thought most chrononometers measured 10ths of seconds. Designed to measure acurate lap times as i understand it, the clue is in the name, (speedmaster) lap times dont usually last 10 hours.

[@DrewMark-e9e]

Isn't the 2 o' clock sub dial registering10th of a second?

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

Yes✅ although I didn’t know that at the time… and the webpage for this watch didn’t say that. They STILL haven’t changed it either 😩 www.swatch.com/en-gb/mission-to-mars-so33r100/SO33R100.html

[@DrewMark-e9e]

@@watchenthusiastlondon You are absolutely correct though, it doesn't do what swatch says it does. Love your content by the way.

[@EdmundAcuto]

Don't all models of Swatch Chronometres have a 1/10 of a second sub dial.The one I own does.?

[@ttaylans]

I honestly think that Swatch may end up losing money on this due to returns :))) The pusher below fell off of mine and Swatch sent me a new watch under the warranty for free.

[@OakLawnSpeedShop]

I have the earth one. Bought it at Swatch Paris. It’s cool. Believe it was 260€

[@haping1]

The Pagani Design MoonSwatch with a Seiko mecaquarz with a fraction of the price and a proper working chrono is the better choice in every way... Less warranty, but laats for many many years.

[@BGRUBBIN]

I wanted one, heard all bad stuff. Ran into a man that got his in Paris. After handling his Earth one, i knew it's not for me.

[@watchenthusiastlondon]

🎯

[@rosomak8244]

The way they sell them by design to make you run to the swatch shop over and over again.

[@amcluesent]

10 hour register. LOL give your head a wobble.

[@ChristianBecker-em9ic]

I looked them up once and they all the way disappointed.

[@charlesripper2978]

I can’t get to like this watch. I’ve looked at them at the airport shop and I only see a cheap plastic toy. At over £200 it’s an expensive toy. I’m liking it to the Emperors new clothes story. It’s what people want until they open their eyes and wake up to the truth.